@shatteredyoshi hard disagree while I wish BDSP had platinum features, I'm very glad they decided to do Legends Arceus instead of something like ORAS. I adore the new lore additions in ORAS but I wish that it was a sequel instead.
I think ORAS are the best remakes precisely because it's the least faithful. It only used Gen 3 as a loose basis and created a whole new experience out of it. The new iteration of Mauville City is perhaps the best exmaple of this, becoming this high-tech indoor metropolis. This approach probably let them to go even more wild with Legends Arceus, forgoing remaking altogether and creating a new game set in an old region.
ORAS is the definitive experience imo. Yes it doesn't have the Battle Frontier, but I don't know how much that actually matters, as I don't hear people talking about Emerald's battle frontier these days in terms of actually playing it. ORAS could have definitely made it better, but I do agree with a take a streamer by the name of RT Game had that, if people still loved the Emerald battle frontier, they would still be playing it and talking about it. However, the last time I ever hear about it, its jus that it wasn't in ORAS and that's it. Most of the facilities are cool, but flawed. (Gen 4 did it better.) Again, ORAS could have improved it a lot, but it not being there isn't a game breaker, especially with the Delta Episode allowing for basically Emerald story integration. I love ORAS so much. Omega Ruby was my second Pokemon game, and I have a lot of nostalgia, but the game does have so much to do. Finding the Regis, exploring Sea Mauville, Secret Bases, The Battle Maison still there for some competitive, and all the Mirage spots with national dex Pokémon beyond those added to the basic routes, as well as the legendary hunts are great! And yes, MEGA evolution is great.
I enjoy Oras a lot. Remakes should learn to lean into the new types and systems introduced rather than make something faithful aka lock out nee mons or content that was introduced later It's why I don't want a black white remake. That would be beyond boring like the diamond pearl one where the underground areas felt like add ons.
I enjoyed ORAS, and believe it to be arguably the best remake we've had (tho I haven't played FRLG in 5000 years so take that with a grain of salt), but it certainly also has issues that, while not ruining the experience, are still felt. I loved the redesigns for every single character, there legitimately is not one miss in the entire cast - I would go so far as to say that not only is every design better than the Gen 3 version, but that the human designs in ORAS are one of the greatest casts in the series. Team Magma and Aqua get the biggest glowup, and while I miss ginger Shelly, no one can say that ORAS Shelly is worse than her original design. The extra speed on water does make the water routes a lot more enjoyable, and the overall 3D scope with being able to see so many Pokémon flying and swimming around was a nice touch. While I agree the E4 rooms are disappointing compared to the paths leading up to them, the rooms are still a giant upgrade to the originals. I'm extremely glad Fairy wasn't shoehorned in; fine, whatever, make Fairy exist in the actual game, but don't taint the original Gyms and E4 with it. I liked the Primals, it makes so much sense lorewise as Groudon and Kyogre are some of the most ancient creatures to ever exist in the Pokémon universe, creating the very land and sea, which is exactly why I think it should be reserved for specific Pokémon - Ho-oh, Jirachi, Yveltal, etc, don't need Primal or Origin forms like the Gen 3 and 4 box legends do, because they simply aren't as old. However, there are issues. It doesn't fix certain relatively minor issues that the originals had, such as the BLOODY WATER STONE LOCATION RIP LOMBRE USERS, and it also arbitrarily changes the ways to get the three Regis which is,,,, SO weird like what was the point? Google how to get Regice in ORAS if you don't already know how. The lack of Emerald content is also extremely disappointing - YES there's the Delta Episode blah blah blah, we'll get to my issues with THAT when the time comes, but not having Emerald's encounters on routes is a tad unfortunate, and more to the point, Gym Leaders having their Ruby/Sapphire teams is very disappointing. I also hate Megas but I know I'm alone in that, and the whole "getting a Mega Lati at the midgame" is absolutely ridiculous. I'm also not as much of a fan of the overall artstyle in ORAS compared to RSE but that could easily be down to nostalgia. I also still hate May and ESPECIALLY Brendan as a rival (Brendan is like... a proper little misogynist lmao), and Wally is still mostly underutilised - speaking of, Wally getting Gallade is.... *sigh* ok conceptually I'm fine with it, Mega Gallade is clearly based on a hero, it makes sense to have a protector watching over him. But in reality all this is is the series further feminising Gardevoir, which itself is a knight that can be both genders. I hate the unnecessary gendering of it all. Also, agree on the extra Legends - they are MASSIVELY shoehorned in, but it's less intrusive than it COULD be. Overall, as I say, I enjoy ORAS for what they are. The Delta Episode, Megas, and a disappointing lack of some minor changes, do hurt the games in my eyes, but I still feel they absolutely are the definitive Gen 3 experience, and would recommend them to pretty much every Pokémon fan.
It does seem that after you complete the Delta episode you can fight the elite for a second time and they all have different teams. This was their way of UserTesting to your point, Steven has a Carbink which is a fairy type rock Pokémon
My beloveds! My first hoenn games, and my main hub games for all my raising and breeding until basically just recently! Such good games and such a good era for the community! I still can't view them as not current games, I played them sooooo much and so did the community! They're evergreen imo!
I first played Ruby on GBA and then bought Alpha Sapphire and damn I just loved this remake. It certainly is a REMAKE, because it does make a few changes, but I really liked that. The same way I always liked the changes on the special edition games like Emerald and Platinum. They always added a bit more to the experience and I see these changes that way.
Exp Share was a held item in the originals. It worked on a single pokemon as a result. You can get it from the President after delivering his letter to Steven.
Oras had the best of both worlds being the remakes of games that are considered the "best" by the majority of the fanbase (mostly cus it was their first lmao💀) and having the "best" battle gimmick in the games being megas Eon flute and flying with the latios/latias is probably one of the best ever mechanics ever in any games The only game i think tops oras is definitely Legends Arceus
Those were actual REMAKES, not just remasters like BDSP. Modernizing and adding upon the source material and omg did I love it. They put so much love and care into this game and I fear we'll never get a remake like this again 🥲
One the best pokémon games in my opinion, and definitively the best remakes. The art style, design changes and new stories keep me returning easily time after time. Only real gripe is the early mega with the Lati twins and that everyone uses the RS teams. In my opinion a remake of a game should use the best parts of it first before changing anything, so if an older game had an enhanced version, the remake should use that as its basis. I also hat that the Primal forms were cut alongside mega evolutions.
These games were fantastic remakes, and I really hope that Nintendo looks back at ORAS and HGSS when they eventually remake Gen 5. I don't think they quite add up to HGSS, as the Gen 2 remakes both greatly expanded upon the post game AND added the important elements of Crystal, which ORAS largely did not. But, I'd argue these games are certainly the definitive way to enjoy Hoenn, as the improvements made to these remakes outweigh the additions to Emerald, with the notable exception of the Battle Frontier, which I was admittedly upset wasn't included.
These are my favorite Remakes and some of the best games in the series. Shame these games got so much hate just because the BF wasn't there. When ORAS added so much other new stuff and really set the standard for how Pokemon Remakes should be Makes me feel even more worse that Gen 4(my favorite generation got shafted with their remakes)
I like all remakes except BDSP, which was literally made by a cell phone game company, and it shows. I would have LOVED even “let’s go Pikachu” art style as that would have worked with the directional inputs of Gen 4, but no. We got ugly chibi characters. It’s low effort trash.
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Sure wish BDSP could have been given the ORAS remake treatment
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@shatteredyoshi hard disagree while I wish BDSP had platinum features, I'm very glad they decided to do Legends Arceus instead of something like ORAS. I adore the new lore additions in ORAS but I wish that it was a sequel instead.
Okay but here me out, how about we made legends Arceus AND a remake of diamond and pearl that wasn't half-assed@@SandHater-t4m
Well they didn't, and instead they gave us 2 whole ass games lol
@@SEIJITV you're saying that legends arceus was bad? that's mad
I think ORAS are the best remakes precisely because it's the least faithful. It only used Gen 3 as a loose basis and created a whole new experience out of it. The new iteration of Mauville City is perhaps the best exmaple of this, becoming this high-tech indoor metropolis.
This approach probably let them to go even more wild with Legends Arceus, forgoing remaking altogether and creating a new game set in an old region.
I was really impressed with ORAS and it got me super hyped for what they could do with a Gen IV remake until we actually got them...
ORAS is the definitive experience imo. Yes it doesn't have the Battle Frontier, but I don't know how much that actually matters, as I don't hear people talking about Emerald's battle frontier these days in terms of actually playing it. ORAS could have definitely made it better, but I do agree with a take a streamer by the name of RT Game had that, if people still loved the Emerald battle frontier, they would still be playing it and talking about it. However, the last time I ever hear about it, its jus that it wasn't in ORAS and that's it. Most of the facilities are cool, but flawed. (Gen 4 did it better.) Again, ORAS could have improved it a lot, but it not being there isn't a game breaker, especially with the Delta Episode allowing for basically Emerald story integration. I love ORAS so much. Omega Ruby was my second Pokemon game, and I have a lot of nostalgia, but the game does have so much to do. Finding the Regis, exploring Sea Mauville, Secret Bases, The Battle Maison still there for some competitive, and all the Mirage spots with national dex Pokémon beyond those added to the basic routes, as well as the legendary hunts are great! And yes, MEGA evolution is great.
I enjoy Oras a lot. Remakes should learn to lean into the new types and systems introduced rather than make something faithful aka lock out nee mons or content that was introduced later
It's why I don't want a black white remake. That would be beyond boring like the diamond pearl one where the underground areas felt like add ons.
Was my first Pokemon game on gba emulator. Playing it over a decade later on a 3ds was absolutely amazing
I enjoyed ORAS, and believe it to be arguably the best remake we've had (tho I haven't played FRLG in 5000 years so take that with a grain of salt), but it certainly also has issues that, while not ruining the experience, are still felt.
I loved the redesigns for every single character, there legitimately is not one miss in the entire cast - I would go so far as to say that not only is every design better than the Gen 3 version, but that the human designs in ORAS are one of the greatest casts in the series. Team Magma and Aqua get the biggest glowup, and while I miss ginger Shelly, no one can say that ORAS Shelly is worse than her original design. The extra speed on water does make the water routes a lot more enjoyable, and the overall 3D scope with being able to see so many Pokémon flying and swimming around was a nice touch. While I agree the E4 rooms are disappointing compared to the paths leading up to them, the rooms are still a giant upgrade to the originals. I'm extremely glad Fairy wasn't shoehorned in; fine, whatever, make Fairy exist in the actual game, but don't taint the original Gyms and E4 with it. I liked the Primals, it makes so much sense lorewise as Groudon and Kyogre are some of the most ancient creatures to ever exist in the Pokémon universe, creating the very land and sea, which is exactly why I think it should be reserved for specific Pokémon - Ho-oh, Jirachi, Yveltal, etc, don't need Primal or Origin forms like the Gen 3 and 4 box legends do, because they simply aren't as old.
However, there are issues. It doesn't fix certain relatively minor issues that the originals had, such as the BLOODY WATER STONE LOCATION RIP LOMBRE USERS, and it also arbitrarily changes the ways to get the three Regis which is,,,, SO weird like what was the point? Google how to get Regice in ORAS if you don't already know how. The lack of Emerald content is also extremely disappointing - YES there's the Delta Episode blah blah blah, we'll get to my issues with THAT when the time comes, but not having Emerald's encounters on routes is a tad unfortunate, and more to the point, Gym Leaders having their Ruby/Sapphire teams is very disappointing. I also hate Megas but I know I'm alone in that, and the whole "getting a Mega Lati at the midgame" is absolutely ridiculous. I'm also not as much of a fan of the overall artstyle in ORAS compared to RSE but that could easily be down to nostalgia. I also still hate May and ESPECIALLY Brendan as a rival (Brendan is like... a proper little misogynist lmao), and Wally is still mostly underutilised - speaking of, Wally getting Gallade is.... *sigh* ok conceptually I'm fine with it, Mega Gallade is clearly based on a hero, it makes sense to have a protector watching over him. But in reality all this is is the series further feminising Gardevoir, which itself is a knight that can be both genders. I hate the unnecessary gendering of it all. Also, agree on the extra Legends - they are MASSIVELY shoehorned in, but it's less intrusive than it COULD be.
Overall, as I say, I enjoy ORAS for what they are. The Delta Episode, Megas, and a disappointing lack of some minor changes, do hurt the games in my eyes, but I still feel they absolutely are the definitive Gen 3 experience, and would recommend them to pretty much every Pokémon fan.
It does seem that after you complete the Delta episode you can fight the elite for a second time and they all have different teams. This was their way of UserTesting to your point, Steven has a Carbink which is a fairy type rock Pokémon
My beloveds! My first hoenn games, and my main hub games for all my raising and breeding until basically just recently! Such good games and such a good era for the community! I still can't view them as not current games, I played them sooooo much and so did the community! They're evergreen imo!
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Seeing the downfall of BDSP, I’m so glad ORAS is getting the love it deserves.
ORAS was cool I just wished both games had more elements from Emerald and had a better post-games like a Battle Frontier
10 years... Time sure flies...
I first played Ruby on GBA and then bought Alpha Sapphire and damn I just loved this remake. It certainly is a REMAKE, because it does make a few changes, but I really liked that. The same way I always liked the changes on the special edition games like Emerald and Platinum. They always added a bit more to the experience and I see these changes that way.
A third emerald remake wouldve been nice
Exp Share was a held item in the originals. It worked on a single pokemon as a result. You can get it from the President after delivering his letter to Steven.
I think there was a typo in the title. Pretty sure it was supposed to say the BEST pokemon games‼️‼️
The most underrated pokemon games by a mile
Oras had the best of both worlds being the remakes of games that are considered the "best" by the majority of the fanbase (mostly cus it was their first lmao💀) and having the "best" battle gimmick in the games being megas
Eon flute and flying with the latios/latias is probably one of the best ever mechanics ever in any games
The only game i think tops oras is definitely Legends Arceus
probably my favorite games of the 3ds area
Those were actual REMAKES, not just remasters like BDSP. Modernizing and adding upon the source material and omg did I love it. They put so much love and care into this game and I fear we'll never get a remake like this again 🥲
Swampert being Water AND Ground makes you think
UGH I HAVE THIS GAME and i never finished it. I feel like I need to now
One the best pokémon games in my opinion, and definitively the best remakes. The art style, design changes and new stories keep me returning easily time after time. Only real gripe is the early mega with the Lati twins and that everyone uses the RS teams. In my opinion a remake of a game should use the best parts of it first before changing anything, so if an older game had an enhanced version, the remake should use that as its basis.
I also hat that the Primal forms were cut alongside mega evolutions.
These games were fantastic remakes, and I really hope that Nintendo looks back at ORAS and HGSS when they eventually remake Gen 5. I don't think they quite add up to HGSS, as the Gen 2 remakes both greatly expanded upon the post game AND added the important elements of Crystal, which ORAS largely did not.
But, I'd argue these games are certainly the definitive way to enjoy Hoenn, as the improvements made to these remakes outweigh the additions to Emerald, with the notable exception of the Battle Frontier, which I was admittedly upset wasn't included.
Dex nav shiny hunting is till this day still my favorite method i never learned how the odds are determined but "It just works" is what i would say 😆
Wow how to capture this footage. The quality is incredible.
These are my favorite Remakes and some of the best games in the series. Shame these games got so much hate just because the BF wasn't there. When ORAS added so much other new stuff and really set the standard for how Pokemon Remakes should be
Makes me feel even more worse that Gen 4(my favorite generation got shafted with their remakes)
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Great remakes if only they had battle frontier
the best games in the whole of pokemon .
I would have loved BDSP with Dynamax
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I like all remakes except BDSP, which was literally made by a cell phone game company, and it shows.
I would have LOVED even “let’s go Pikachu” art style as that would have worked with the directional inputs of Gen 4, but no.
We got ugly chibi characters. It’s low effort trash.