Why Speedrunners LOVE Pokemon OmegaRuby
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Now that we've covered all of Hoenn, would y'all be interested in Platinum? 👀
Yessss
Of course
nope, make a vid on why pearl > diamond, then do platinum.
Hells yeah
@@MusharnaMush true!
I would love to see a video briefly talking about on which version is faster on each generation.
Solid video idea! I might definitely cover this sometime in the future!
The grunts secret weapon.... Zubat
Ngl they are pretty scary with confuse ray. I always hit myself
BRO SAME 💀💀💀
Something about the phrase "HM Friend" is even more cursed than the normal term.
Your status, as a friend, is replaceable
@@aprinnyonbreak1290*Farewell.*
Hm mule or slave is more used
Given words related to slavery like slave and master have recently started being considered "problematic" we might get canceled soon for saying HM Slave
@@NicaNicu31 i’d just use hm mule
That commentary during the Carvanha fight was very Super Eyepatch Wolfesque!
I've been waiting for someone to pick up on one of my biggest inspirations. 👀 The way he tells stories is beyond phenomenal!
I really love this random pokemon speedrunning format. Very enjoyable!
You’re not the only one 😄
Cool Video interesting to see the remakes of Gen 3 are the mirror opposites of the original Ruby and Sapphire in terms of speedrunning, due to a mostly enhanced story because mega evolutions were a thing and Primal forms which makes this so much different from Sapphire, oh yeah not to mention the move split changes by this time in ORAS.
So I herd speedrunners... liek mudkips?
I can't believe this is where that meme gets to live on forever.
ORAS is fun, definitely recommend anyone trying to get into Pokémon speedrunning to give Omega Ruby a try! 😄
No it's not. It is too easy.
@@overlord3481agree...
Latios also has that luster purge. Same SpA as Mist Ball but instead of a 50% chance to drop SpA, it drops Spdef. Granted, I don't think the drops ever matter except for one Brendan fight(fuck that Amnesiaing Wailord).
We'd all join Team Magma if we were NPC's in Omega Ruby. They have a point. There is too much water in the region.
Just found your channel recently. Amazing coverage and thumbnails. Liked and subscribed! Please keep making videos!
my first though when I saw the thumbnail was 50K ngl
These sanarios gives me psychological pain as a long time pokemon player
I love them
PulseEffects i loved your GDQ Gen 5 run. I have watched it so many times with my siblings :)
Love hearing Moonlight Canyon in the bg
6:02 I hear that Danganronpa music lol
underrated content
Great video mate
I love your titles for HM users. “HM friend” is great, but my all time favorite is “H eMployee” from a different video
This...actually makes a lot of sense. Mudkip's the go-to because of his type coverage and stuff until you can grab a legendary to finish out the run, so it'd feel a lot nice to bash through some numels and camerupts than it does to struggle through carvanhas and sharpedos. Nice.
I do have to ask. While Treecko would struggle with zubats, is it not worth it to run Treecko instead of Mudkip for Alpha Sapphire? All of the extra mandatory water type battles SURELY get Treecko some advantage right? I have to imagine it can handle the first two gyms similarly to Mudkip, as well as being able to break even against Wattson right?
With Treecko you have all the poison types Team Aqua uses, Wattson's steel types and mostly Flannery, where Treecko doesn't really have any natural answer, especially when it's on a lower level than her mons. The thing about Carvanha is that it can still go down with two Rock Tombs from Mudkip, you just need to hit them. And if one option is more risky but faster and the other option is less risky but overall much slower then it's worse for speedruns. There also aren't that many water types in the game before you get Latias, after which your starter usually doesn't matter too much anymore.
No
Treecko cannot reliably beat Watson or Flannery without grinding or other preparation, has a harder time dealing with grimer and muk until it can pick up Dig, has to put up with Dig taking extra time, (and while not common in AS, is absolutely stonewalled by any Koffing), and is significantly worse than Latias or Kyogre 99% of the time once they're on the table, just like Mudkip in that regard.
Additionally, it's an extra timesink to catch a pokemon for Surf, and potentially another one for Dive/Waterfall.
Also, while I've not tested this, I suspect there are additional time losses due to needing to heal during routes and gyms, because Treecko simply struggles to KO pokemon as quickly as Mudkip, and is much more frail, so it's taking damage more often, and taking more damage when it does.
Back in Emerald playing casually I picked Latios and I loved him but… I made another file bc I wanted a Latias. They’re so cute!
That evolution screens looks so Digimon
It's better if you start and have the eon ticket as well as technically both are available in the games but the other only unlocks a bit later after you beat norman or so then you can go back and get latios from southern island or latias (if Omega ruby)
Eon Ticket requires street pass from an outside source that came out in 2015. This would just add accessibility issues to the speedrun.
@@PulseEffects It would, but you can also spoof SPs, so it widens the pool a bit to "have an Eon pass OR CFW"
I thought people chose OR over AS due to the larger amounts of Courtney on R34
ORAS Maxie looks so dorky, that's enough for me to pick Alpha Sapphire and hang out with buff Archie. I didn't even use Latias in my playthrough.
Cool, i recently watched the hate alpha sapphire
Is the Eon Ticket legal in Alpha Saphire run's?
And their secret weapon... Zubat.
AHHHHH-
I thought maybe it was if it had absorb, idk if it does though or if it would matter
but now i still don't see why people would not use primal ky on glacia an abuse the exact same thing they already abuse in OR by setting up on glalie who's desperately trying to set up hail so they can then KO walrain before it gets a chance to use sheer cold? i mean somebody for sure has considered this and decided it's not worth it, i just dunno WHY?
It's the same amount of setup turns for Kyogre with both Mystic Water and Blue Orb but Blue Orb requires you to equip + get the primal animation + unequip it after.
Probably around a 40 second net loss for Kyogre, but it's a net gain for Groudon unless you have an amazing nature, and Ivs.
Oh also the fact that Glalie has Light Screen!
6:03)
As a Danganronpa fan, I appreciate the background music you used here.
I'm so glad I don't speedrun because I love everything about A.S more. The team,the legendary, the color.
Big fan of the Xenoblade music in the background!
banger content
You should do a run on both up to where you get latios/latias, trade them, then finish both and see how the speed compares.
I love Pokemon Omega Ruby. No more. No less.
Competitively marshtomp was pretty good when the game came out. Blaziken only got better when it got speedboost few gens after
Indeed.
Without factoring Hidden Abilities, megas, ect I think Swampert is STILL the strongest starter, competitively. The other candidates I'd look at would be Primarina, Skeledirge, and Cinderace, though Cinderace would be almost entirely because of Court Change.
Also worth noting. In that context, Serperior is the worst, and it's not close. Meganium is probably second worst, and it clowns on Serperior.
@@aprinnyonbreak1290Meganium is still the worst by far, still not even close. Serperior with Overgrowth can at least run a Calm Mind + Taunt set, which is still better than anything Meganium has to offer.
That aside Greninja is currently played with Torrent much more after the nerf to Protean, and Infernape and Empoleon are really solid mons that usually prefer their regular abilities anyways.
For Skeledirge it looks bad though, Unaware made it the menace it currently is in the first place.
@@nicolaistuhlmuller8718
Skeledirge does much worse without Unaware, of course, but it has Torch Song, which is absurdly good, and would be better than most starters with that move outright.
Serperior has nothing to do after it sets up, besides use terrible grass moves, because it learns nothing else. Taunt and speed are its only redeeming quality, but because it's so hilariously unthreatening it's basically pointless. Meganium not only has moves, it has a choice in what it wants to do, in defensive team support, status spreading, or even a funny physical offensive set.
It's not good, but it has strengths it can leverage. Serperior does not. It's absolutely horrific, it is one of the worst fully evolved pokemon of all time without Contrary.
@@aprinnyonbreak1290 back before Contrary Serperior was released, it was still a whopping two tiers above Meganium. Meganium only has 7 attack and 8 special attack more than Serperior, so it's equally non threatening, and their movepools are almost the same except for the lack of Calm Mind and Taunt on Meganium's side and the lack of Earthquake on Serperior's side, but again, Meganium is as non threatening offensively as an unboosted Serperior. Serperior saw play in the lower tiers with either a fast dual screen set or a Calm Mind set, and while none of those sets are good enough for higher tiers, they were viable in the lower ones while Meganium was never viable anywhere outside the absolute bottom of the bottom tiers.
So yes, Serperior is bad, but it's still a straight upgrade to Meganium, which offers the same low power. decent bulk and movepool as Serperior but with awful speed and no Calm Mind.
basically, Latios
I am not a speedrunner, but for me, Omega Ruby is just better because Groudon is cooler than Kyogre.
I also love Omega Ruby lol
It’s kinda crazy that Sapphire was better for speedrunning than Ruby, while Omega Ruby is better than Alpha Sapphire to speedrun.
LatiASS seams to be getting trashed on compared to latios
my first pokemon game was Sapphire so to hear it get a bad rep, if only for speedruns, saddens me. At least my boi Mudkip is a powerhouse. I love that little fish... with legs.
Edit: Latias is also my fav of the Eon duo
The originals are actually in the opposite situation for speedrunning, Sapphire is the preferred version there.
@@bluekirby_64 Why?
@@kjdubs5877 Kyogre is busted in every gen up to Gen 5.
@@sizzle5775 Interesting
Just wish they would end dual versions
I like sapphire more even tho i havent played it, its cuz i like kyogre better than groudon
Omega ruby is loveable even for normal players I would say (totally suggestive, but a man can anticipate the better)
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becus omega ruby cool because it my first poke on game 😎
so oras may...
i need your help with something
...please?
Me: (cheers for picking Omega Ruby just because I like Groudon more)
By the way... What do speedrunners think about Wobbuffet?
I love Wobbuffet
6:25 F.E.A.R Focus Slash, Endeavor, (Quick) Attack, Rattata. Level 1 Rattata vs. Level 100, Rattata always wins baby, even against legendarys.
Jokes(and cheese) aside fair comparison.
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Why repeating the first 4 minutes if doubling down on a previous video?
What
uhh.... why don't the alpha Sapphire runners use the grass starter then?
cause lejit i think that the grass starter provides more for alpha Sapphire than mudkip does since all of the biggest problem fights r taken a hefty chunk easier due to the grass type being a big problem for aqua and can also help out the legendary during the taxing fight vs the ice elite 4 member
But the Gyms is where the Grass Starter would struggle
There's Fire Gym and Flying Gym, which destroys Grass, not to mention, it is weak to Ice.
@@BlucklesTheGlitchidna true but hey that's something that's gonna need ironed out now isn't it if 90% of the game is a pain with the "best" starter for running then why haven't they tried swaping the starter? cause if ya ask me if they swap mudkip for triko then while gyms may post bit more a problem they will have little problems dealing with team aqua and by the time of elite 4 shouldn't they be looking into a victory road mon just for that fight like some mon that can use a good ground type move like eq or bulldoze
I answered this in the first 5 minutes
@@PulseEffects the reason why i asked that was cause i don't get what they've tried or not yet though it also feels like from your story that they don't really look into the rout from a triko perspective or a torchic perspective for the alpha Sapphire game (im no speedrunner so i may just be dumb) but I'd kinda expect that someone would of tried the other 2 starters at some point since the game's launch or try to find better options for the mons to use in the run other than just get theough to upgrade one and upgrade 2 and practically yolo the elite 4
Speedrunners are pretty thorough with their research! As I said in the video though, the Gyms really crushed the potential of the other two. Treecko especially gets dunked on and even the best Torchic run is like 10 minutes behind by Norman.
The entire video, dude is mixing up Latios and Latias.
Neat
I'm sorry but Septile has never been referred to as a powerhouse in a competitive setting. Swampert is also the best of the three in competitive with the exception of gen 5-7 when Blaziken got Speed Boost.
Ahhh that's easy, it's because Gen 6 is finally to the point where it's nostalgic for people.
Since swampert gets stab on surf, why wouldn't you try teaching latias anything else? Seems like a willful handicap.
Better question, why not pick up an electric type move/pokemon in Asapphire? Paralysis would be a lifesaver.
Surf is a busted move and all the electric moves we can get are quite slow to obtain.
Just imagine how long it would take to take a detour, catch an electric type and level grind it up just to make some fights a little faster, that would be a willful handicap. Again, it's not even worth buying tm Thunder for kyogre to beat Glacia with, because it takes longer to go into the store, get to the tm floor and buy and teach thunder than to beat Walrein with Surf.
As for Swampert, in a speedrun you never get a Swampert. When you get Latias, you have a level 30 Marshtomb and so you'd have to do a lot of stuff using Marshtomb instead of Latias, and all you get from that is being able to use Swampert for a few fights before replacing it with Kyogre anyways.
I one shot carvanha with mud ball is my game different?
It's like the Mittensquad joke.
Omega Ruby is the best game in the franchise. Alpha Sapphire is objectively the worst.
Y e s
so basically OmegaRuby is the easier game got it
Can we just retcon ohko moves out of existance? They're no fun.
He literally made the same video twice...
This is not the same video twice lol...
*explains why mudkip is best*
Me: screw that. Swampert is ugly as heck, but blaziken is cool, no matter the weaknesses
Me as a kid who picked Omega Ruby over Alpha Sapphire because AS was the more popular one: 😏