Watch my second video here to see how seamless the process is the second time around. Charging Ford Lightning at Tesla Supercharger - Take 2 th-cam.com/video/m-nWMgNxnlU/w-d-xo.html
as a tesla owner i am glad your experience was a good one. i have used other charging providers and was surprised by how often their chargers are down and how long it takes to get them fixed.. sometimes months.
As a Tesla owner for 5+ years this video makes me so happy. Quickly you realize its infrastructure anxiety and not electric car anxiety and opening these highly reliable chargers up will make everyone’s lives better, and increased traffic and fees will result in more chargers. Wins all around
Tesla opened the system in desperation to drum up extra income because they see the market going down unexpectedly. Btw I truck the rate requested to $15.51/ gal of gasoline. Good luck with that, even at 4x the efficiency of a gas car that's $3.81\gal which is $0.62\gal higher than I pay in Michigan now 02\19\2024
@@ondago2not following your calcs, but Tesla originally tried to petition for universal charge standards 15 years ago and no oems wanted to work with them. They also inked these deals to open the network when the car market was still booming. It was mostly feedback on how bad the existing network of chargers is to OEMs that pushed them to sign onto teslas system
@@miodice3 the electricity in the vid cost like $0.46/kWh. by the EPA, it takes a 33.7kWh/gallon battery to hold the same energy as a Gallon of gassoline so the equivalent price he paid was about $0.46/kWh x 33.7kWh = about $15.51/gallon. You could argue than an efficient EV could go about 4 tirmes further on that energy so I cut the eqv gas price in 1/4 and it still comes out that Supercharging was costing the same as Premium Unleaded but almost nobody does the math so they see $0.09 to $0.79 cost per kWh and think "WOO that's way less than gas" when, inf fact usually $0.35 cents and up are the same as and then become many times higher than gas but; ther marketers have got a bunch of people geeked up with hype.
@@ondago2 you're missing the point. 95% of charging is done at home, ive had gas cars for 15 years and EV for 5, i almost never use dc fast charging. avg rates are 13.5 cents per kwh where i live, giving it a massive cost advantage towards ev. i also haven't fixed anything on my car (93.5k miles) except suspension bushings and this weekend i had to wd-40 my door handles, plus the regular broken windshields, tires, cabin air filters etc. so much time and money savings if you have home charging.
After you cycle through your start-up problems on this video it would be nice to have a follow-up video later to see if it goes smoother now that your truck and the charger actually know each other. Just to see if the first time charge was the problem. Good video. 🤠
@michaelsheedy (great first name by the way) I love my truck, but I understand. I also own a Toyota Sienna hybrid that gets at least 550 miles on a tank. That’s nice, and I did have to use it on my last trip to Texas to go to the World Series because our route did not have enough fast chargers. I even made a video about it. The Texas Rangers can go to the World Series, but the Ford Lightning can’t! th-cam.com/video/g6hFtHv8Zbo/w-d-xo.html
i live in michigan and waiting for more Superchargers to open up, only one in the whole state and its in Mackinaw. hoping when i use it, it won't take 3 trys -love my f150 lariat, amazing vehicle and charge at home 99% of the time
Thanks for watching Eric, I hope it works for you too when you try it. Just double check the app first to make sure it’s available to non teslas. Here’s the link to the second video I did where everything seemed to work flawlessly. Charging Ford Lightning at Tesla Supercharger - Take 2 th-cam.com/video/m-nWMgNxnlU/w-d-xo.html
It is going to be great when the lighting has the NACS native in the truck. I just wish they would change the location of the charge port to be like the Tesla too so we did not need the pull throughs all the time and reserve those for people with trailers.
Watch my second video here to see how seamless the process is the second time around. Charging Ford Lightning at Tesla Supercharger - Take 2 th-cam.com/video/m-nWMgNxnlU/w-d-xo.html
That is GREAT your location has 3 spots like that. If not, then you'd be taking 2 spots to charge your truck. Hope Tesla continues to build charging stations like that one, for non Tesla cars. BTW...we have a Tesla Model Y.
Thanks for the comment. I did what you are saying and it didn’t show anything different than what the app showed “plugged in not charging”. I just didn’t put it in the video.
Glad you were successful with charging. As a Model Y owner I was pulling for you. From now on, maybe you won't have so much trouble. I've never had any problem with a Supercharger. Just plug in and 7 seconds later, you're charging.
Just got a Lightning. To my surprise, the super chargers at the Denny's in Dunkirk have the adapters. Way more reliable than the Electrify America ones. Plus I don't have to deal with Walmart traffic in their parking lot.
That’s awesome. Yeah it was pretty reliable the second time I tried it. I’m planning to go back again soon to record another video when it gets cold again.
That’s a good question. I think I should do a video about it. Short answer: I absolutely love technology. I work in television and I needed a truck to start carrying equipment around. So I started looking. I knew I wanted an F150, but I couldn’t get settled on which trim/year to get. I liked the idea of the hybrid because I could use the onboard power, but still not sure. Then within 2 weeks the announcement came about the Lightning. As soon as I saw it I was like that’s it. Especially when I thought it was going to only cost 50k for a mid level trim. So I put in my reservation the first day, then we bought a Bronco sport while we were waiting and traded it in for the lightning.
I have two Tesla magic docks near my home. Who would think that Southern Indiana would get these type chargers early on! One is less than 10 miles away and the other is less than 60 miles away. I have only used one of them as I do 95% of my charging at home. I did all the prep work before hand and had no issues with the technology. What I did have difficulty with was getting close enough to the charger for the cord to reach. Once I got close enough it went very smoothly. Next time I will pull in sideways if no other cars are there.
I'm going down to Golden tomorrow from Cheyenne... I just got an e-Transit. I'll probably stop by this charger sometime tomorrow! Thanks so much for sharing! This van only has a 108 mile range, but I'll see what it does and reply back to this comment.
Thanks for the VERY informative video. Yours is the first I’ve seen that shows the Non-Tesla price, and also the “membership” cost if you want to buy down to the Tesla price. Well done! Regards, Lindsay
Thank you so much. That’s my reason for doing these videos. I’m just a guy who bought a truck I like and I wanted to show people why I like it and what questions I’m answering and experiences I’m having positive and negative. I’m a tv producer that works with big crews/budgets/expensive equipment on lots of projects. So I could do the same with these videos. But I think it makes it special just to film with my iPhone and do a quick edit and post it. FYI, I’m also an apple fan. :-)
@@F150LightningMike I've been running Apple/Macintosh equipment since 1995. Most people never get my username/email, thanks for noticing! Regards, Lindsay
Sure thing. Thanks for watching. I’ve been using Apple computers myself since I believe it was the Apple 2e as a teen I was typing a paper on it in my dads office.
It reflects the wholesale cost of the megawatt connection from the utility, the cost of the hardware installation and maintenance, it's really only for road tripping / journeys over the 'home home range of your EV - likely only 10% of charging is DC, the rest is hopefully cheap AC or included in the cost of a hotel stay for instance.
@@bruceleggett568 how do you mean? EA was funded from the VW Diesel gate scandal settlement money, unfortunately uptime wasn't a requirement, only number of built stations.
This is the kind of trouble that almost never happens with an ICE vehicle. This is a serious issue for EV's. Sure it works for Tesla, but what about everyone else.. This is a common issue.
Thanks for the comment. Here’s a video about my second attempt to charge a Tesla. Charging Ford Lightning at Tesla Supercharger - Take 2 th-cam.com/video/m-nWMgNxnlU/w-d-xo.html
This is still early days. It’s going to take some time to get other brands to work as well as Teslas. They all need to work out the bugs with their software. Great video!
You are not the first person to ask. So I am planning on doing the same test again sometime to see how many times it takes with just staying with one charger.
Also charged my Lightning on a Tesla Supercharger in Southern Indiana. Only issue I had was getting close enough to plug in. No pull through chargers where I was.
@@F150LightningMike Yep. Only peaked at 131 KW but I didn't precondition and was only connected for a few minutes. Normally on an EA 350 kw DC I'll get 175-180 KW for a few minutes.
What you are saying definitely applies for road trips, but most charging is done at home and takes almost no time. So in the 1 year/26k miles that I’ve driven my truck I have actually saved a lot of time not having to go to gas stations.
Actually it’s for trucks with or without trailers since the regular Tesla spots require trucks to park and take up three spots in order to be able to reach the cable.
Definitely a game changer with Tesla opening up their charging network to non Tesla vehicles. With more and more EV's coming out in 24 with 350kw charging capability and Tesla launching their V4 chargers it's going to be even better.
I've got a 2021 Powerboost F150 right now, have been tracking the Lightning for sometime. I wonder about a few things here, might impact all EV's including Tesla. 1) Demand might push up these cost per KW over time, don't think rates will stay low when demand spikes soon. 2) As more brands switch to leverage the Tesla SC network, it seems to me there will be more people in demand of those charger stations - wait times are bound to increase. Not hating on EV's really, just wondering how this will pan out.
Hi Todd, You’re not wrong about the demand, possibly pushing up the cost per kilowatt overtime. I think it’ll work the same as Gas as the demand increases so will the price. The advantage however that EVs have over gas is that people can charge at home for very cheap if you own or rent a home. I don’t think it will be as efficient for people in apartments that don’t have garages. However, I do believe that charging from home solves a lot of the potential for wait times not increasing that much. Unless you’re on a road trip you don’t have to worry about wait times because you do charge at home. The other advantage I think EV’s have overtime is that people can install solar panels and pretty much create their own energy at home compared to people, not really being able to create their own gas, or at least not the kind that runs a car :-)
Technically yes, but I definitely use one up quicker than an hour. So I’m changing the name to kWm (it’s now a Kilowatt minute) or maybe (kilowatt Mike) :-)
Blocking 3 spots is not cool, but it should be better in the near future with new versions of chargers with longer cables and Tesla creating truck pull in spots like the one I’m in.
Maybe it’s just me but the pull through chargers should be used last if nothing is available so when someone shows up with a trailer your not taking up a spot they have to use.
Good thought. But the position of where the port is requires using a pull through charger or just parking really awkward and taking up 2 regular spots.
My guess is you are a Tesla owner? I can definitely try it next time. The problem is the configuration of the other stations are really set up for teslas, and while I was there there were several pulling in and out. So while I may make room for the possibility of a trailer. At this spot at least I would take away more than one very used regular spot. One other option, If you know the location there are a couple of pull in stations that work just fine for my truck. I was only in the “trailer” spot because it got the best video shot.
I know on my Tesla once in a while the door doesn't auto-unlock when I go to open the door, and restarting the app fixes it (faster than pulling the backup card key out of my wallet). It'd be interesting to see if you had gone back to the ones that didn't work, whether restarting the app would had fixed the problem. Good luck! I have a friend interested in the F-150 Lightning so I'm going to forward him your video.
Thank you. I am planning on making a take 2 video on this same thing to see if it happens again. Then maybe stay on the same charger until it works. Seeing how many times it takes.
I’m happy to help. I’m doing these videos just to answer questions people may have. So feel free to ask and I may create a video answering the question.
Can you do how long it takes from 10% to 70%? It should charge faster at a lower state of charge. Kinda curious how Ford charging curve is compared to Tesla.
Mike was getting a good charge for the Lightning. I have seen as high as 160kW to start no matter the starting point, but usually levels off to 90kW until 80% when it drops to 40kW rate.
@jaymin2189 This was not 10%. I really tried to get it close for you, but for my second test I was only able to get down to 31% before it started to hit sunset. I will try again when it gets colder too,but here’s my second video: Charging Ford Lightning at Tesla Supercharger - Take 2 th-cam.com/video/m-nWMgNxnlU/w-d-xo.html
What is the total time you spent messing around with multiple chargers, then charging it??? After all the hassles of getting it to charge, you stop at 80%????
Hi @dennisclouser3458 That is a valid question. Why stop at 80%. The answer is actually pretty simple. It’s just to save time. If you don’t need to charge past 80 to get where you are going then you stop about 80 because the charging speed cuts in half at that point and continues to gradually get slower the closer you get to 100. It only took me 17 minutes to charge, but I was there probably 30 minutes because I needed to set up my account on the tesla app first and a few minutes of that was figuring out the charging and getting it to work and moving to different station.
I think people need to get a real outlook on charging price distance and converting that to gas and i guess maintenance repairs the whole picture thats what people need
so I guess the adapters are universal? Surprised to see Tesla charger fit the Lightning, but I know nothing about electric vehicles other than they use batteries!
The adapter is called a “magic dock” and it is installed by Tesla on their chargers wherever they want. If it is not a station that has the adapter then it will not work to charge your cord there even if you have your own adapter. To answer your question though, most electric vehicles besides tesla have a common adapter, yes, but vehicles from Ford and GM are going to be switching to Teslas adapter with vehicles made in 2025.
Every rechargeable battery, no matter what type or chemical composition lose a little of its capacity each time it is recharged. Thats just the nature of the beast. ALSO, it is well known that slow chargers give the battery(s) a better charge. In your Lightning owners manual, you didnt throw it away yet have you? It says that charging using DC fast chargers will cause your battery pack to loss capacity faster than AC slow charging. They recommend to get the maximum life out of your Lightnings battery pack ALWAYS use the ac slow charger that came with your truck. BE ADVISED no battery pack lasts forever. Eventually your battery pack will need replacement. SO, you should know what Ford parts will charge you for a replacement pack. You may wish to trade before that happens but if you trade it in with only 1% capacity left, I think the dealer will take that into consideration figuring your trade in value. its like, trading a gas car than needs a new engine. I want one of those new Canoo pickups, but, before I buy I want to know 2 things: -How much for a battery module? -How much for an entire battery pack? -How much for that crazy curved windshield? !
Thank you for watching. I charge most of the time at home, and I agree that that is the best charging for your battery. Here’s my one year review video where I discuss, charging and saving $4k in one year charging mostly at home vs having a gas model: 1 year - 26k mile - Review - Ford Lightning th-cam.com/video/YZ-jeEzpk0w/w-d-xo.html
It’s a fun experience. The good thing will be when we can use most of the Tesla network instead of just a select few. It will make traveling a little more convenient.
@@F150LightningMike G'Day Mike. A select few (5) chargers is how it started in Australia, now it is just about every Tesla site in the country, excluding a few that are extremely high demand. Be patient, and you will soon see hundreds available for you and your Lightning.
I do try to make a short version of each of my videos. So here is the 1 minute short of this one for your viewing pleasure. :-) Charge Ford Lightning at Tesla Supercharger th-cam.com/users/shortsCFNoIiuVTXA?feature=share
This one was one of the first with a “magic dock” ( basically a Tesla made adapter that was connected to the station) - but I did receive my A2Z adapter and tried that out recently at a station that did not have a magic dock. Here’s how that went: First Time Using New Adapter at Tesla Supercharger - Lightning Mike th-cam.com/video/iGD4lNc7OT4/w-d-xo.html
You need to download the Tesla app and click under the “charge your non-Tesla” section to find out which ones are set up for it. There are only a few around the country but it’s growing.
so How is it going with tesla network charging your lighting? Is it better now or not really? been debating between tesla Y and lighting for a while. I will be using ev 99% in town, However, once in a while I will take it out of town. By the way I have a bolt right now and took it twice of a 6 Hour round trip and what a horrible experience. Never again. lol I hope with lighting will be a better experience
Hey Mike. You should be happy with the 34c/kWh Tesla charged you. Here in Australia Tesla charges us Tesla owners AU$0.70c/kWh ! We are being ripped off big time 😞
After it gets to 80% the charging rate slows down significantly. So when you’re charging at a supercharger, it’s not recommended to charge it above 80% too much. Anyways, but to try to answer your question here’s a video of how long it took me to go from 11% to 80%. Lightning Mike - How Long does it take to charge from 10 - 80 percent? th-cam.com/users/shortsYTeyyGQFBcc?feature=share
I would agree, except that I paid about $1,800 when I registered my truck here in Colorado, and that is a lot more than a regular new vehicle, and they said the increase was to go towards building the grid here in Colorado so it is an extra tax already when you register
@@F150LightningMike Oh that how they are getting it , I am in md I am not sure how there doing it but I know there talk , enjoy your ride I myself I think I looking at vw bus I am old hippie just shorter hair
Third time's the charm, even with a Tesla you very occasionally get a connection fail - but I think you got unlucky on your first couple of tries - nothing to do with the App, your car's display or logs might tell you more. So happy to see non Tesla's at the super chargers, V4 chargers (tall cabinets) will have longer cables and a simple credit card reader to avoid the app. It will be interesting next year to see if the NACS adaptor for your F150 will be associated with your Ford account and use the payment method there - that is what the 2025 model F150's are likely to do if they have a NACS (Tesla) connector on the car, no adaptor needed.
It blows my mind that there's still no chargers that are as easy to pay on as a gas pump. Too many phone apps, and way too finicky still. You'd think with the major push for electrification, companies would be making a serious effort to remove all barriers, but no, they want to corral customers into their brand ecosystem instead. I want an EV, but I'm still holding off until the public charging landscape improves a lot more.
Good points. I do think it’s getting better. In a lot of cases now you can just charge at home and only have to deal with all the app stuff when you are on a trip. So it’s not that bad. Plus the federal/state tax credit here in Colorado is pretty nice.
If he had a Tesla, its easier than a regular gas pump as all you do is plug it in and away it goes without having to swipe a card or mess with the ap. Yes you need a card setup on your Tesla account but that is done once at the time you buy the Tesla.
As stated above, if he had a Tesla all he would have to do is simply plug it in. Much, much easier than any gas pump ever. Even here, this gentleman is using it for the very first time and may not have had it setup correctly. I bet now that he knows what to do, and has the app set up correctly, it'll be much smoother the second time around.
Imagine puling up to a gas station pump on fumes. You put the nozzle in and it won't pump gas unless you down load there app. Then the next 2 pumps won't work. Not only that, you have to wait a couple of hours for the gas to fill your tank and its below zero or raining hard.... I won't do it... Notice non of these charge stations are covered...
Thanks for the advice. Here’s a quick explanation I found online that may help those that might be confused if I said it wrong. “in the EV world, kWh refers to the size/capacity of the battery, and kW refers to the power used to charge that battery. EV chargers are sized in kW, and the amount of time they are used will determine the energy consumed via the EV charger and delivered to the EV battery in kWh”
Tesla and non-Tesla have the same rate, the difference is non-Tesla have to pay a small monthly fee for an account, Tesla owners get the account with their car for free.
Most of my charging as well as most everyone else that owns an EV does most of there charging from home, and the the most times I have said the word most mostly in the same sentence :-)
@@F150LightningMike yes it is I can't afford a vehicle that is for just driving close to the house. I do A lot with my truck. No EV will ever come close to doing what it does
I understand. I was never an EV fan before I bought this truck, and I only bought it because I like the tech. Also I needed a good quiet generator for remote tv shoots. But I am an EV fan now.
Glad it was helpful! I plan to do a couple more videos about it too. One as a follow up to see if it works better the second time and the other showing how it works in the cold.
No, no. Not little people. We all are important when it comes to EV adoption, not just buying a Tesla, but any brand. Sorry to see it wasn’t a seemless experience. There is allot of talking to, between charger and vehicle. Even charging my Tesla at home, it sometimes stops charging and I have come out of my house to restart every. Un hook, than hook up again. I lowered my charging rate at home to 30A, instead of 32A. Seems to work allot better now.
That’s a good point. When I rented a Tesla there was no need for an app to charge. You just pulled up and plugged it in. It automatically recognizes the car. So that’s a little better for sure.
@@F150LightningMike That is how it should be for all EVs. However, the only problem with Tesla's are that they can then deny your charging! Because they own your car, not you.
I don’t know of any gas stations where you can do the equivalent of “plug and charge”. Of course charging at home is much easier and cheaper than gas stations or public fast charging.
V4 Superchargers will have a payment card reader, no app will be required. Future F150's will have the NACS (Tesla) connector and use the credit card associated with your Ford account, like Tesla's do, and then you just plug in and walk away - it's why there is no screen or buttons or card reader on the current Tesla chargers, so it had to go through an App for non Tesla's.
So the member price is $0.34/KW and 33KW might get you 75 miles of range? So if gas is at $3 the breakeven would be 20mpg. I think I will keep my old Tacoma and leave the headaches of charging. How long did that take anyways 15 minutes once you got everything figured out.
Yeah it took about 17 minutes once it started working. I agree .34/kw is expensive, but at home it’s only about .11/kw, and what I’ve discovered on the road is that it doesn’t save too much money when you are taking a trip.
I’ll have to go through the specific math on that, and I haven’t done since my summer road trip. Really what you’re looking at is comparing cost per mile electricity versus gas and what I figured out over the summer for my truck is that a little bit over $.45/kwh is about the same price per mile as it would be driving a gasoline vehicle. On the same note there are several factors that go into what you are asking. One would be the type of vehicle and the efficiency that you are that it has and both cases gas vs electric. Since gas prices fluctuate so much that also has to factor into the equation. Regardless charging at home is more efficient and has saved me $4000 in a year but to your point if I was charging at a supercharger all the time there would not be as much savings if any at all at the rate you’re saying.
For awhile I was pissed that Tesla opened up their chargers for free. I always felt that wasn’t fair to Tesla. Any automaker using Tesla chargers should be helping build out the charge network. It also looks as if at least with the Mach E they will have to use two stalls to charge 1 car. Maybe Ford should be giving you guys an adapter with a cord extension on it
You make a good point when using these superfast chargers while on a trip, it does take a lot longer than filling up with gas, but trip and emergencies and recording videos are the only times I use the stations. The rest of the time I am charging at home and it takes me about five seconds to plug it in at night and about five seconds to unplug it in the morning so it’s actually overall faster than filling up with gas :-)
Yes that’s true if you lost your phone you couldn’t charge. But you can charge at EA where it just recognizes the truck. I’m pretty sure they are going to do something similar with Tesla soon too.
Most of them are not a problem and don’t really affect my truck. Except for the one they are still waiting on parts for, which is adding back in the heated steering wheel. Kind of a nice thought to have that though.
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Watch my second video here to see how seamless the process is the second time around.
Charging Ford Lightning at Tesla Supercharger - Take 2
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as a tesla owner i am glad your experience was a good one. i have used other charging providers and was surprised by how often their chargers are down and how long it takes to get them fixed.. sometimes months.
Thank you. Yeah it seems like Tesla does have it together better for the charging network for sure.
As a Tesla owner for 5+ years this video makes me so happy. Quickly you realize its infrastructure anxiety and not electric car anxiety and opening these highly reliable chargers up will make everyone’s lives better, and increased traffic and fees will result in more chargers. Wins all around
Agreed great point.
Tesla opened the system in desperation to drum up extra income because they see the market going down unexpectedly. Btw I truck the rate requested to $15.51/ gal of gasoline. Good luck with that, even at 4x the efficiency of a gas car that's $3.81\gal which is $0.62\gal higher than I pay in Michigan now 02\19\2024
@@ondago2not following your calcs, but Tesla originally tried to petition for universal charge standards 15 years ago and no oems wanted to work with them. They also inked these deals to open the network when the car market was still booming. It was mostly feedback on how bad the existing network of chargers is to OEMs that pushed them to sign onto teslas system
@@miodice3 the electricity in the vid cost like $0.46/kWh. by the EPA, it takes a 33.7kWh/gallon battery to hold the same energy as a Gallon of gassoline so the equivalent price he paid was about $0.46/kWh x 33.7kWh = about $15.51/gallon. You could argue than an efficient EV could go about 4 tirmes further on that energy so I cut the eqv gas price in 1/4 and it still comes out that Supercharging was costing the same as Premium Unleaded but almost nobody does the math so they see $0.09 to $0.79 cost per kWh and think "WOO that's way less than gas" when, inf fact usually $0.35 cents and up are the same as and then become many times higher than gas but; ther marketers have got a bunch of people geeked up with hype.
@@ondago2 you're missing the point. 95% of charging is done at home, ive had gas cars for 15 years and EV for 5, i almost never use dc fast charging. avg rates are 13.5 cents per kwh where i live, giving it a massive cost advantage towards ev. i also haven't fixed anything on my car (93.5k miles) except suspension bushings and this weekend i had to wd-40 my door handles, plus the regular broken windshields, tires, cabin air filters etc. so much time and money savings if you have home charging.
Ford need to update it software to make this working more seamlessly. Tesla opened their API so use it!
Good point.
Tesla and ford working on it. New generation will seamlessly work
That will be awesome.
I think it was the Tesla app on the phone needing to get restarted.
I agree. I just filmed a second video today and it worked flawlessly the first time.
This is wonderful. I like both Tesla and Ford, especially the Lightning. So glad to see all EVs able to use the superchargers.
Me too! I’m looking forward to the expansion of the available chargers on the network.
After you cycle through your start-up problems on this video it would be nice to have a follow-up video later to see if it goes smoother now that your truck and the charger actually know each other. Just to see if the first time charge was the problem.
Good video. 🤠
That’s a great idea. I have added a follow up video to my list. Thank you.
@@F150LightningMike mention if there was an update to the trucks software inbetween. I don't think the phone app will make a huge difference.
Yes good idea. It looks like my truck is up to date now, but I will hav to mention something about that especially if it works right away next time.
Looks like a lot of fun. Think I will keep my hybrid and 600 miles on a tank of easy to find and input gas.
@michaelsheedy (great first name by the way) I love my truck, but I understand.
I also own a Toyota Sienna hybrid that gets at least 550 miles on a tank. That’s nice, and I did have to use it on my last trip to Texas to go to the World Series because our route did not have enough fast chargers. I even made a video about it.
The Texas Rangers can go to the World Series, but the Ford Lightning can’t!
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What good is 600 miles of range if you can’t fill up at home?
Ha ha. That’s a good point. I wonder if that’s what all of us EV owners are going to be saying to the gas owners in a few years.
Appreciate your patience and doing this, thank you!
My pleasure! I hope it helps.
Thanks. I’m thinking about a road trip in my Lightning and this helps
You’re welcome. I have several other videos about a road trip I took this summer where I talked about a lot of things that could help your trip too.
i live in michigan and waiting for more Superchargers to open up, only one in the whole state and its in Mackinaw. hoping when i use it, it won't take 3 trys
-love my f150 lariat, amazing vehicle and charge at home 99% of the time
Thanks for watching Eric,
I hope it works for you too when you try it. Just double check the app first to make sure it’s available to non teslas.
Here’s the link to the second video I did where everything seemed to work flawlessly.
Charging Ford Lightning at Tesla Supercharger - Take 2
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It is going to be great when the lighting has the NACS native in the truck. I just wish they would change the location of the charge port to be like the Tesla too so we did not need the pull throughs all the time and reserve those for people with trailers.
I agree
This is why I chose the Powerboost Hybrid F150, bc the infrastructure is not seamless yet.
Watch my second video here to see how seamless the process is the second time around.
Charging Ford Lightning at Tesla Supercharger - Take 2
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That’s so much work ! Normal ppl run late sometimes.
I had better success the second time I charged there.
Charging Ford Lightning at Tesla Supercharger - Take 2
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That is GREAT your location has 3 spots like that. If not, then you'd be taking 2 spots to charge your truck. Hope Tesla continues to build charging stations like that one, for non Tesla cars. BTW...we have a Tesla Model Y.
Yeah it’s pretty sweet. I’ve only used it twice for these videos, but if I have to use it more it’s nice that there are pull in stations.
When you had a fault on the app, I am surprised you did not look at the screen on your truck for clarity.
Thanks for the comment. I did what you are saying and it didn’t show anything different than what the app showed “plugged in not charging”. I just didn’t put it in the video.
Glad you were successful with charging. As a Model Y owner I was pulling for you. From now on, maybe you won't have so much trouble. I've never had any problem with a Supercharger. Just plug in and 7 seconds later, you're charging.
Yeah I hope it works better in the future. Teslas are super easy. When I rented one there was no problems with charging.
Just got a Lightning. To my surprise, the super chargers at the Denny's in Dunkirk have the adapters. Way more reliable than the Electrify America ones. Plus I don't have to deal with Walmart traffic in their parking lot.
That’s awesome. Yeah it was pretty reliable the second time I tried it. I’m planning to go back again soon to record another video when it gets cold again.
Serious question, forgive me if this has already been beaten to death on this channel but why did you buy a Ford Lightning?
That’s a good question. I think I should do a video about it.
Short answer: I absolutely love technology. I work in television and I needed a truck to start carrying equipment around. So I started looking. I knew I wanted an F150, but I couldn’t get settled on which trim/year to get. I liked the idea of the hybrid because I could use the onboard power, but still not sure. Then within 2 weeks the announcement came about the Lightning. As soon as I saw it I was like that’s it. Especially when I thought it was going to only cost 50k for a mid level trim.
So I put in my reservation the first day, then we bought a Bronco sport while we were waiting and traded it in for the lightning.
I have two Tesla magic docks near my home. Who would think that Southern Indiana would get these type chargers early on! One is less than 10 miles away and the other is less than 60 miles away. I have only used one of them as I do 95% of my charging at home. I did all the prep work before hand and had no issues with the technology. What I did have difficulty with was getting close enough to the charger for the cord to reach. Once I got close enough it went very smoothly. Next time I will pull in sideways if no other cars are there.
Yes the cables are short. It was nice to have a pull in station designed for trucks.
I'm going down to Golden tomorrow from Cheyenne... I just got an e-Transit. I'll probably stop by this charger sometime tomorrow! Thanks so much for sharing! This van only has a 108 mile range, but I'll see what it does and reply back to this comment.
That would be great to hear how it does for you.
Remember speed kills range, if you’re short range - slow down, if you’re long range speed up!
Good luck on your trip!
That’s true.
Thanks for the VERY informative video. Yours is the first I’ve seen that shows the Non-Tesla price, and also the “membership” cost if you want to buy down to the Tesla price. Well done!
Regards, Lindsay
Thank you so much. That’s my reason for doing these videos. I’m just a guy who bought a truck I like and I wanted to show people why I like it and what questions I’m answering and experiences I’m having positive and negative. I’m a tv producer that works with big crews/budgets/expensive equipment on lots of projects. So I could do the same with these videos. But I think it makes it special just to film with my iPhone and do a quick edit and post it. FYI, I’m also an apple fan. :-)
@@F150LightningMike I've been running Apple/Macintosh equipment since 1995. Most people never get my username/email, thanks for noticing!
Regards, Lindsay
Sure thing. Thanks for watching. I’ve been using Apple computers myself since I believe it was the Apple 2e as a teen I was typing a paper on it in my dads office.
I love my Tesla, my Rivian and my 22 Lightning ⚡. I've charged my Rivian a few times on Tesla, zero issues. Haven't tried my ⚡ Lightning ⚡ yet tho
Let me know how it goes.
I pay 8 cents at home, so these rates always blow my mind. It’s like buying gas.
Yeah home is pretty cheap for me too. I don’t usually use these types of chargers, but I wanted to show everybody what it was like.
It reflects the wholesale cost of the megawatt connection from the utility, the cost of the hardware installation and maintenance, it's really only for road tripping / journeys over the 'home home range of your EV - likely only 10% of charging is DC, the rest is hopefully cheap AC or included in the cost of a hotel stay for instance.
@@brushlessmotoring we’re paying for infrastructure and to keep EA running. I know. It’s just so eye opening to me.
@@bruceleggett568 how do you mean? EA was funded from the VW Diesel gate scandal settlement money, unfortunately uptime wasn't a requirement, only number of built stations.
EA does seem to have a lot of broken chargers
This is the kind of trouble that almost never happens with an ICE vehicle. This is a serious issue for EV's. Sure it works for Tesla, but what about everyone else.. This is a common issue.
Thanks for the comment. Here’s a video about my second attempt to charge a Tesla.
Charging Ford Lightning at Tesla Supercharger - Take 2
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This is still early days. It’s going to take some time to get other brands to work as well as Teslas. They all need to work out the bugs with their software. Great video!
Thank you. I hope to do a follow up in a few days to see if I have the same experience.
id love to see you go to the same charger again and see if it works the first time, that time.
You are not the first person to ask. So I am planning on doing the same test again sometime to see how many times it takes with just staying with one charger.
Also charged my Lightning on a Tesla Supercharger in Southern Indiana. Only issue I had was getting close enough to plug in. No pull through chargers where I was.
Yeah that’s a big problem in some of these places.
Just charged my Lightning at the Batavia, NY SC Magic Dock on Saturday.
Awesome…did it work well for you?
@@F150LightningMike Yep. Only peaked at 131 KW but I didn't precondition and was only connected for a few minutes. Normally on an EA 350 kw DC I'll get 175-180 KW for a few minutes.
Yeah for me it seemed to be a little slower than when I charged on EA, but EA was not consistent and Tesla was.
Pro tip internal combustion vehicles are done charging in 5 minutes and obtain +400 miles of range
What you are saying definitely applies for road trips, but most charging is done at home and takes almost no time. So in the 1 year/26k miles that I’ve driven my truck I have actually saved a lot of time not having to go to gas stations.
You're in the trailer spot. That's for people pulling trailers so they don't have to unhook their load.
Actually it’s for trucks with or without trailers since the regular Tesla spots require trucks to park and take up three spots in order to be able to reach the cable.
Definitely a game changer with Tesla opening up their charging network to non Tesla vehicles. With more and more EV's coming out in 24 with 350kw charging capability and Tesla launching their V4 chargers it's going to be even better.
I’m excited about the future too. I think it is going to be awesome when more are available.
I've got a 2021 Powerboost F150 right now, have been tracking the Lightning for sometime. I wonder about a few things here, might impact all EV's including Tesla. 1) Demand might push up these cost per KW over time, don't think rates will stay low when demand spikes soon. 2) As more brands switch to leverage the Tesla SC network, it seems to me there will be more people in demand of those charger stations - wait times are bound to increase. Not hating on EV's really, just wondering how this will pan out.
Hi Todd,
You’re not wrong about the demand, possibly pushing up the cost per kilowatt overtime. I think it’ll work the same as Gas as the demand increases so will the price. The advantage however that EVs have over gas is that people can charge at home for very cheap if you own or rent a home. I don’t think it will be as efficient for people in apartments that don’t have garages. However, I do believe that charging from home solves a lot of the potential for wait times not increasing that much. Unless you’re on a road trip you don’t have to worry about wait times because you do charge at home. The other advantage I think EV’s have overtime is that people can install solar panels and pretty much create their own energy at home compared to people, not really being able to create their own gas, or at least not the kind that runs a car :-)
It’s cost per kWh, not kW…
Technically yes, but I definitely use one up quicker than an hour. So I’m changing the name to kWm (it’s now a Kilowatt minute) or maybe (kilowatt Mike) :-)
This is good for everyone but as a Tesla owner very bad for me. I saw a Lighting blocking 3 spots at a very busy supercharger in NY over the summer.
Blocking 3 spots is not cool, but it should be better in the near future with new versions of chargers with longer cables and Tesla creating truck pull in spots like the one I’m in.
@@F150LightningMike agreed but it is going to be painful for everyone for a while
Yeah, at least for me I will try to only take one spot when I need to charge :-)
The big diesel generator is inside the big fenced off area so green.
I’ve seen that at a couple of charging stations. Very interesting.
Maybe it’s just me but the pull through chargers should be used last if nothing is available so when someone shows up with a trailer your not taking up a spot they have to use.
Good thought. But the position of where the port is requires using a pull through charger or just parking really awkward and taking up 2 regular spots.
@@F150LightningMike parking slightly off in a regular spot still leaves a pull through for someone pulling a trailer.
My guess is you are a Tesla owner?
I can definitely try it next time. The problem is the configuration of the other stations are really set up for teslas, and while I was there there were several pulling in and out. So while I may make room for the possibility of a trailer. At this spot at least I would take away more than one very used regular spot.
One other option, If you know the location there are a couple of pull in stations that work just fine for my truck. I was only in the “trailer” spot because it got the best video shot.
CAN'T WAIT TO USE IT WITH MY LIGHTNING
I’m looking forward to trying it a second time too.
Seems like ford is having an issue with the “handshake”. Mach E is having the same issues. Even with electrify America
Thank you Mike for showing us how it’s done 😎
Thanks for the comment. Yeah I am expecting it to get better on the “handshake” issue moving forward.
Thanks for the video. You have convinced me gas cars are the future.
lol … glad I could help.
I'm pretty sure that it will take a little bit to work out all the bugs, always happens when you try to integrate systems together.👍
True
yes indeed, thank you Tesla for sharing your chargers to non Tesla vehicles, Tesla rocks
Agreed!
Oh snap, the AppleCar play looks surprisingly good on that screen!
I agree. It really does.
Now try this in canada at night at -35.
Good luck
I do plan to record when it gets cold here, and it does get below zero in Colorado. But Not -35. No way. That’s too cold.
I know on my Tesla once in a while the door doesn't auto-unlock when I go to open the door, and restarting the app fixes it (faster than pulling the backup card key out of my wallet). It'd be interesting to see if you had gone back to the ones that didn't work, whether restarting the app would had fixed the problem. Good luck! I have a friend interested in the F-150 Lightning so I'm going to forward him your video.
Thank you. I am planning on making a take 2 video on this same thing to see if it happens again. Then maybe stay on the same charger until it works. Seeing how many times it takes.
The latest update solved my problem with connecting to the Tesla.
Good suggestion. I’ll double check that mine is updated.
I thought non Tesla’s could start using the Tesla chargers in 2024. Guess they opened up early.
Yes they started early with a few around the nation and they are gradually doing more and more.
Thank you for this! We just received our lightning and have all kinds of questions :)
I’m happy to help. I’m doing these videos just to answer questions people may have. So feel free to ask and I may create a video answering the question.
Can you do how long it takes from 10% to 70%? It should charge faster at a lower state of charge. Kinda curious how Ford charging curve is compared to Tesla.
This is a good idea. I will put it on my list.
Thank you@@F150LightningMike
Mike was getting a good charge for the Lightning. I have seen as high as 160kW to start no matter the starting point, but usually levels off to 90kW until 80% when it drops to 40kW rate.
@jaymin2189 This was not 10%. I really tried to get it close for you, but for my second test I was only able to get down to 31% before it started to hit sunset. I will try again when it gets colder too,but here’s my second video:
Charging Ford Lightning at Tesla Supercharger - Take 2
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What is the total time you spent messing around with multiple chargers, then charging it??? After all the hassles of getting it to charge, you stop at 80%????
Hi @dennisclouser3458
That is a valid question. Why stop at 80%. The answer is actually pretty simple. It’s just to save time. If you don’t need to charge past 80 to get where you are going then you stop about 80 because the charging speed cuts in half at that point and continues to gradually get slower the closer you get to 100.
It only took me 17 minutes to charge, but I was there probably 30 minutes because I needed to set up my account on the tesla app first and a few minutes of that was figuring out the charging and getting it to work and moving to different station.
I'd have to take 4 Valium to get the patience you have.
I’ll take that as a compliment thank you.
I think people need to get a real outlook on charging price distance and converting that to gas and i guess maintenance repairs the whole picture thats what people need
That’s a great idea. I will have to put that on my list to do sometime.
Have you used it more since this video?
Yes … here’s a link to my second experience.
Charging Ford Lightning at Tesla Supercharger - Take 2
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so I guess the adapters are universal? Surprised to see Tesla charger fit the Lightning, but I know nothing about electric vehicles other than they use batteries!
The adapter is called a “magic dock” and it is installed by Tesla on their chargers wherever they want. If it is not a station that has the adapter then it will not work to charge your cord there even if you have your own adapter.
To answer your question though, most electric vehicles besides tesla have a common adapter, yes, but vehicles from Ford and GM are going to be switching to Teslas adapter with vehicles made in 2025.
Every rechargeable battery, no matter what type or chemical composition lose a little of its capacity each time it is recharged. Thats just the nature of the beast. ALSO, it is well known that slow chargers give the battery(s) a better charge. In your Lightning owners manual, you didnt throw it away yet have you? It says that charging using DC fast chargers will cause your battery pack to loss capacity faster than AC slow charging. They recommend to get the maximum life out of your Lightnings battery pack ALWAYS use the ac slow charger that came with your truck. BE ADVISED no battery pack lasts forever. Eventually your battery pack will need replacement. SO, you should know what Ford parts will charge you for a replacement pack. You may wish to trade before that happens but if you trade it in with only 1% capacity left, I think the dealer will take that into consideration figuring your trade in value. its like, trading a gas car than needs a new engine.
I want one of those new Canoo pickups, but, before I buy I want to know 2 things:
-How much for a battery module?
-How much for an entire battery pack?
-How much for that crazy curved windshield?
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Thank you for watching.
I charge most of the time at home, and I agree that that is the best charging for your battery.
Here’s my one year review video where I discuss, charging and saving $4k in one year charging mostly at home vs having a gas model:
1 year - 26k mile - Review - Ford Lightning
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That’s so awesome. I can’t wait to try it
It’s a fun experience. The good thing will be when we can use most of the Tesla network instead of just a select few. It will make traveling a little more convenient.
@@F150LightningMike G'Day Mike. A select few (5) chargers is how it started in Australia, now it is just about every Tesla site in the country, excluding a few that are extremely high demand. Be patient, and you will soon see hundreds available for you and your Lightning.
That will be awesome for sure.
Game changer
I agree.
what app you using
The Tesla app
People take 10 minutes to do a 3 minute video. Not just this guy, everybody.
I do try to make a short version of each of my videos. So here is the 1 minute short of this one for your viewing pleasure. :-)
Charge Ford Lightning at Tesla Supercharger
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Looks amazing, glad it worked out
Yeah me too!
While I don’t always agree with what Elon does, Tesla is truly amazing 🤩
That seem to have their act together for sure.
Did you need an adaptor on the plug?
This one was one of the first with a “magic dock” ( basically a Tesla made adapter that was connected to the station) - but I did receive my A2Z adapter and tried that out recently at a station that did not have a magic dock. Here’s how that went: First Time Using New Adapter at Tesla Supercharger - Lightning Mike
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Make sure you have a card on the app! I have a tesla but if my credit card isn't on the app they'll block you from charging.
I do, but that’s good advise. Since I was new to signing up maybe it just took a little bit to register in their systems.
We have a tesla model 3 and now the ford lightening. Do we need to go to certain tesla chargers that will have the right charger for the ford?
What app are you using to charge your lightening?
You need to download the Tesla app and click under the “charge your non-Tesla” section to find out which ones are set up for it. There are only a few around the country but it’s growing.
What adapter did you use. We just purchased a '23 lightning Lariat ER
The adapter is attached to the Tesla station. There are only a few outfitted with them right now.
so How is it going with tesla network charging your lighting? Is it better now or not really? been debating between tesla Y and lighting for a while. I will be using ev 99% in town, However, once in a while I will take it out of town. By the way I have a bolt right now and took it twice of a 6 Hour round trip and what a horrible experience. Never again. lol I hope with lighting will be a better experience
It’s gotten better for sure. With my A2Z adapter I can charge pretty much anywhere after I figured out how to use it.
Hey Mike. You should be happy with the 34c/kWh Tesla charged you. Here in Australia Tesla charges us Tesla owners AU$0.70c/kWh ! We are being ripped off big time 😞
That’s crazy. I consider myself blessed then. Is electricity that much more expensive there? How much does it cost you to charge at home?
@@F150LightningMike I have solar at home, so it is basically free.
That’s awesome. I don’t have solar yet, but I’m thinking about it.
Your cost after exchange rate of currency is .46ckWh
It still sounds expensive.
they should update ford software to make super charging as easy as possible. Even as a tesla owner, i already hate super charging alraedy
I agree - I have heard that it is coming in the future, but who knows?
How long does it take from 0 to 100??
After it gets to 80% the charging rate slows down significantly. So when you’re charging at a supercharger, it’s not recommended to charge it above 80% too much. Anyways, but to try to answer your question here’s a video of how long it took me to go from 11% to 80%.
Lightning Mike - How Long does it take to charge from 10 - 80 percent?
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I am all for EV , but states need to put a road tax on the charging station , so you all can help keep roads good that you use
I would agree, except that I paid about $1,800 when I registered my truck here in Colorado, and that is a lot more than a regular new vehicle, and they said the increase was to go towards building the grid here in Colorado so it is an extra tax already when you register
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Oh that how they are getting it , I am in md I am not sure how there doing it but I know there talk , enjoy your ride
I myself I think I looking at vw bus I am old hippie just shorter hair
I’m about to register it again this month so I will do a video about that.
Third time's the charm, even with a Tesla you very occasionally get a connection fail - but I think you got unlucky on your first couple of tries - nothing to do with the App, your car's display or logs might tell you more.
So happy to see non Tesla's at the super chargers, V4 chargers (tall cabinets) will have longer cables and a simple credit card reader to avoid the app. It will be interesting next year to see if the NACS adaptor for your F150 will be associated with your Ford account and use the payment method there - that is what the 2025 model F150's are likely to do if they have a NACS (Tesla) connector on the car, no adaptor needed.
Very good points. I’m definitely looking forward to the future with the Tesla chargers for sure.
Expensive but cool.
Agreed
I’m WAITING FOR THE ADAPTERS FROM FORD FOR THE TESLA CHARGERS , HOPEFULLY SOON !
That will be awesome, and I hope they work as advertised.
It blows my mind that there's still no chargers that are as easy to pay on as a gas pump. Too many phone apps, and way too finicky still. You'd think with the major push for electrification, companies would be making a serious effort to remove all barriers, but no, they want to corral customers into their brand ecosystem instead. I want an EV, but I'm still holding off until the public charging landscape improves a lot more.
Good points. I do think it’s getting better. In a lot of cases now you can just charge at home and only have to deal with all the app stuff when you are on a trip. So it’s not that bad. Plus the federal/state tax credit here in Colorado is pretty nice.
If he had a Tesla, its easier than a regular gas pump as all you do is plug it in and away it goes without having to swipe a card or mess with the ap. Yes you need a card setup on your Tesla account but that is done once at the time you buy the Tesla.
@@brucec954Exactly my point, companies trying to keep you in their brand ecosystem. It's total crap, and it's seriously hampering EV adoption rates.
Kinda remind me of Apple vs PC back in the day.
As stated above, if he had a Tesla all he would have to do is simply plug it in. Much, much easier than any gas pump ever. Even here, this gentleman is using it for the very first time and may not have had it setup correctly. I bet now that he knows what to do, and has the app set up correctly, it'll be much smoother the second time around.
Imagine puling up to a gas station pump on fumes. You put the nozzle in and it won't pump gas unless you down load there app. Then the next 2 pumps won't work. Not only that, you have to wait a couple of hours for the gas to fill your tank and its below zero or raining hard.... I won't do it... Notice non of these charge stations are covered...
The lack of covering does bother me. Especially in colorado. I slipped on some ice one time. Not fun at all.
Try not to get your kW and kWh confused. You were charged for kWh and not for kW. Makes it easier for those new to EV's to understand.
Thanks for the advice. Here’s a quick explanation I found online that may help those that might be confused if I said it wrong. “in the EV world, kWh refers to the size/capacity of the battery, and kW refers to the power used to charge that battery. EV chargers are sized in kW, and the amount of time they are used will determine the energy consumed via the EV charger and delivered to the EV battery in kWh”
Is it the same price for Tesla vs non Tesla vehicles?
I think that Tesla it is cheaper.
Tesla and non-Tesla have the same rate, the difference is non-Tesla have to pay a small monthly fee for an account, Tesla owners get the account with their car for free.
Thank you. That helps.
If you don't want to pay the monthly fee, you pay more per kWh, so it depends on if you will be using this a lot, or just in a pinch.
Yes that’s true. I think the monthly fee at 12.99 is pretty high if you’re not going to use it that much.
The vehicle determines the charging speeds.
Yep that’s true. At EA chargers my lightning only gets up to 170 kw max even if the charger says 350
Can you imagine if more people had a EV car with only 5 charging stations in your area. What a joke. Hope you're batteries last longer then a year.
Most of my charging as well as most everyone else that owns an EV does most of there charging from home, and the the most times I have said the word most mostly in the same sentence :-)
@@F150LightningMike yes it is I can't afford a vehicle that is for just driving close to the house. I do A lot with my truck. No EV will ever come close to doing what it does
I understand. I was never an EV fan before I bought this truck, and I only bought it because I like the tech. Also I needed a good quiet generator for remote tv shoots. But I am an EV fan now.
Good info. Thanks
Glad it was helpful! I plan to do a couple more videos about it too. One as a follow up to see if it works better the second time and the other showing how it works in the cold.
Go back to the first stall to see if it works now.
That’s my plan when I go again
No, no. Not little people. We all are important when it comes to EV adoption, not just buying a Tesla, but any brand. Sorry to see it wasn’t a seemless experience. There is allot of talking to, between charger and vehicle. Even charging my Tesla at home, it sometimes stops charging and I have come out of my house to restart every. Un hook, than hook up again. I lowered my charging rate at home to 30A, instead of 32A. Seems to work allot better now.
It worked better the second time:
Charging Ford Lightning at Tesla Supercharger - Take 2
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Good job
Thanks
Requiring an "APP" to refill your vehicle is just plain stupid. How long before the get this right, so it is easier than gas stations?
That’s a good point. When I rented a Tesla there was no need for an app to charge. You just pulled up and plugged it in. It automatically recognizes the car. So that’s a little better for sure.
@@F150LightningMike That is how it should be for all EVs. However, the only problem with Tesla's are that they can then deny your charging! Because they own your car, not you.
I don’t know of any gas stations where you can do the equivalent of “plug and charge”. Of course charging at home is much easier and cheaper than gas stations or public fast charging.
Agreed
V4 Superchargers will have a payment card reader, no app will be required. Future F150's will have the NACS (Tesla) connector and use the credit card associated with your Ford account, like Tesla's do, and then you just plug in and walk away - it's why there is no screen or buttons or card reader on the current Tesla chargers, so it had to go through an App for non Tesla's.
So the member price is $0.34/KW and 33KW might get you 75 miles of range? So if gas is at $3 the breakeven would be 20mpg. I think I will keep my old Tacoma and leave the headaches of charging. How long did that take anyways 15 minutes once you got everything figured out.
Yeah it took about 17 minutes once it started working. I agree .34/kw is expensive, but at home it’s only about .11/kw, and what I’ve discovered on the road is that it doesn’t save too much money when you are taking a trip.
Isn't $0.46/kWh equivalent to $15.51 per gallon of gas if you use the EPA balance of 33.7kWh/ gallon of gasoline. Asking for a friend.......
I’ll have to go through the specific math on that, and I haven’t done since my summer road trip. Really what you’re looking at is comparing cost per mile electricity versus gas and what I figured out over the summer for my truck is that a little bit over $.45/kwh is about the same price per mile as it would be driving a gasoline vehicle.
On the same note there are several factors that go into what you are asking. One would be the type of vehicle and the efficiency that you are that it has and both cases gas vs electric. Since gas prices fluctuate so much that also has to factor into the equation. Regardless charging at home is more efficient and has saved me $4000 in a year but to your point if I was charging at a supercharger all the time there would not be as much savings if any at all at the rate you’re saying.
Ouch, $.46 a KW is steep.
Yes I thought so too.
What about chargers on or around
I-90WEST from Iowa to Rosebud, South Dakota. Does anyone have any experience in this area.
The best way to find chargers that work for non-Tesla vehicles is through the Tesla app. Other chargers can be found on PlugShare.
good thing your not in a hurry
Nope I wasn’t because I was recording a video. But it wasn’t that bad. 17 min :-)
It said no card on accounts. Put your credit card on the Tesla app.
Is that what it said for you?
For awhile I was pissed that Tesla opened up their chargers for free. I always felt that wasn’t fair to Tesla. Any automaker using Tesla chargers should be helping build out the charge network. It also looks as if at least with the Mach E they will have to use two stalls to charge 1 car. Maybe Ford should be giving you guys an adapter with a cord extension on it
You’re not wrong. They did start taking reservations for an adapter, but they don’t have, but should have the extension that you’re talking about.
dont be late to work !
Thanks for your concern. I was not :-)
Every Xbox owner knows the red ring of death 😅
That’s funny.
all the time your talking
i could of filled my truck with gas 50 times, and took off within minutes
I chose gasoline especially in the winter cold
You make a good point when using these superfast chargers while on a trip, it does take a lot longer than filling up with gas, but trip and emergencies and recording videos are the only times I use the stations. The rest of the time I am charging at home and it takes me about five seconds to plug it in at night and about five seconds to unplug it in the morning so it’s actually overall faster than filling up with gas :-)
It’s per kilowatt-hour not kilowatt…
That’s true. Thanks for watching.
Technology developed by 19-year-old geniuses who still live at home. Our whole world is run by these kids!
That’s funny!
@F150LightningMike It is terrifyingly true!
I understand. I’m watching my own kids, all in their late teens, and the stuff they know or can figure out with their computers blows my mind.
@@F150LightningMikebut can they use a wrench?
That’s funny!
Electric isn’t ready yet for distance traveling.
I mostly agree, but I did take a 4K+ mile road trip this summer and I learned a lot. The infrastructure could and will get better.
What it seems he doesn't realize is that only half of all chargers will be available to non Tesla's
That may be true but I’ll happily use whichever ones I can when needed. Most of the time I charge at home.
I couldn't afford the time it takes to own an EV if you gave it to me for free
If you charge at home mostly it’s much cheaper than gas.
If Tesla allows non tesla vehicles to use their supercharges Tesla vehicle owners should be pissed off. And rightly so!!
Everyone there seems friendly, and there have been plenty of open spots both times I’ve been there.
Time is money, and that is way too long. I never saw it charge at more than 132 KW
Most charging is done at home. So I have actually saved a lot of time owning an electric truck.
If a person was robbed of phone or you lost it you cannot charge it, period???
Yes that’s true if you lost your phone you couldn’t charge. But you can charge at EA where it just recognizes the truck. I’m pretty sure they are going to do something similar with Tesla soon too.
Lines are long enough just with native teslas
Sorry :-(
No lines in FL. Where do you live?
There was only a couple of others charging while I was there in Denver in the evening. No line at all.
Don't worry about charging it. It will be recalled soon.
That’s funny. I do have about 4 open recalls on mine they are waiting on parts for.
@@F150LightningMike I'm sorry for you on these problems.
Most of them are not a problem and don’t really affect my truck. Except for the one they are still waiting on parts for, which is adding back in the heated steering wheel. Kind of a nice thought to have that though.
That's way cheaper than gas
That’s true