How To Replace Worn Control Arm Bushings
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 พ.ค. 2024
- In this video I will show you how to replace crack, worn, or failed lower control arm bushings. Control arm bushing failure on R32 and all MK4 Volkswagens is common. You can press new bushings in to the control arm with either a shop press, or use the tool loaner program from your local parts store. Failure of a control arm bushing can cause noise in the front of a car and poor tire wear. We are replacing the polyurethane bushings with OEM R32 bushings. #r32 #humblemechanic
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I love this mechanic so much. He's highly intelligent and communicates perfectly 😊
Damn you make that job look so easy 😁 I really miss my two MK IV Golfs I had from new (1x Petrol GTI and a PD150 GTI). Those cars have a special place in my car heaven 👍🏻
Dude you are still my favorite mechanic by far I am so thankful for all the videos you have shared over the years and am happy to tell you I have completed my training and am on my way to becoming a certified automechanic like I said I would be the last time you messaged me back. Again thank you so much for all the knowledge and fun entertaining videos youre the best dude.
Did the front control arms bushings on my 05 seat ibiza about a year ago went with powerflex road series. Checked them twice since i installed them no cracks whatsoever really happy with them. Did it on jackstands and had to buy the tool to press out the rear bushings, thankfully it wasnt expensive. A year later and along with endless mods (whiteline anti roll bars front and back with adjustable end links , bc coilovers, vibra technics engine, transmission and dogbone mounts, ultra racing chassi bracings and i couldnt be happier all i need yo complete my suspension is a steel belly pan to protect them and im done with suspension
CHARLES! we TOLD YOU those urethane ones were gonna blow up your car! 🤣
I think you'll like the rubber ones, I put those in my daily 1.8t GTI 6 months ago and couldn't be happier. I used your previous video as a reference, thanks for all you do buddy.
Beautiful work and giving confidence to do it myself, that's what Charles is all about 🎈❤️
And from the looks of things the subframe is support easy to remove too! Future plans! 😎
Lol “one time use only” good one
I have to replace my bushings tomorrow on my Jeep Liberty. Are the things I take off really a one time use only
Thanks! I was just wondering about this. Had my control arms replaced under warranty but not the bushings.
Hello Charles been on Holidays, glad I come back to a new video. Thanks
You should retitle this suspension 101 part 1. You should also mention to inspect these bushings along with motor & trans mounts every other time you are under your car. Somethings, like bushings are very overlooked wear points. Great vid as usual.
Thanks. The rubber ones on my 08 Sebring are showing some stress, guess I'll put that on the list!
Great video Charles.
I have a Passat B7 2012 workhorse ,,Here in the UK we have MOT ( ministry of Transport test )
I had an advisory of VERY LITTLE movement in the rear bearings you were doing,,Getting too old to do my own maintenance now But my local garage are REALLY GOOD ,, I’m now tempted as you make this look SO easy BRILLIANT
Explanation Very Clear and understandable.
Thank you,,,,But I’ve Decided cos YOU make it look SO easy I’m going to let them do it,,just in case. ,
Love the vids Keep up the Good Work
Best Wishes and STAY SAFE
Steve B. ( UK )
Professional as always. Great job, mate.
Great job as usual Charles!
Thanks Charles. Perfect tutorial as always. What bums my son and I out is after we do our careful OCD work like this (I am a huge Hardware Replacer, no matter the cost or car) the Alignment guy goes 'Hammer Handed' on it.
Yeah that sucks! Maybe install old hardware, get it aligned, then you do new hardware? Doing one bolt at a time shouldn’t impact alignment.
Tell him not to go hammer ham on it!
A1 job- and video!thanks for the info and tips.
I have an '09 mk5 Rabbit and I just love your channel and content. Thanks for everything and keep up the good work.
Thank you!
sweet. great job dude. I am new to your channel and love the content I have seen so far. I appreciate how you don't skip over the problems that you run into while doing this work. I also appreciate your honesty when you say what to do if you don't have the right tools or parts, because honestly that’s how most of us face these issues, without all of the professional equipment. Thanks for the help on this. I just got new wheels and haven't put them on yet so I decided to inspect the bushings and sure enough mine are toast. Way worse then yours, but mine are probably OEM and have never been replaced. I am the second owner and have about 160,000 miles, so it is way past due. I also will be replacing my strut mounts since those are also toast but I have already replaced those once. I'm gonna use heavy duty ones from ECS Tuning this time.
Thank you so much
Step 1: install entirely new control arms with bushings already in them Step 2: thank yourself
Yeah, but where's fun?
That’s an option for sure. One that I mentioned in the video ;).
@@tadeuszgladysz7387 Spending your weekend on your knees and getting your hands all bruised up trying to remove steel bits that really don't want to be removed is a strange idea of "fun".
Of course it's different if you've got a fully kitted out auto workshop, in which case you probably don't need to be watching this. Other than that you really want to just buy the complete control arms instead and save yourself the pain.
@@BigUriel I agree, a lot of these help you do it yourself channels fail to mention the importance of having a car lift and most of us don't have one which makes all these 'simple do it yourself' jobs extremely hard and time consuming.
This is a Lazy or just incompetent approach no thx.
Wheel hanger? Genius! Thanks for introducing me to this simple gadget.
AWESOME
I just redid all of the rear bushings on my B6 A4 Quattro, it was one of the most frustrating job's I've ever done! That flat lower control arm looks like an absolute dream to press compared to the complex shapes of cast aluminum Audi decided to use in the back end
The B chassis cars are just silly with their bushings. I need to do the Passat soon
Great video, very thorough! What is the name of the lift that you use?
Super thorough, professional, and detailed. This is the epitome of a TH-cam video. Do you have a link to the lift?
15:10 I appreciate that you addressed the reuse of the stretch, torque diff and intention to use new one later on alignment. I’ve had VW mechanics recently say regular bolts are fine for the dog bone mount but no advice on change in torque spec…I don’t think he understood tty.
They re use all tty bolts and don’t replace squat! Guys at VW parts told me they don’t replace unless visible damage.
Awesome presentation
Another great video Charles
Great vid as always. What lift is the r32 on?
Love watching your videos , you doing a great job , great camera work , I replaced vacuum pump on Jetta with your help , thanks
Nice video and thanks for sharing
Hey, great channel. I love all things mk4. I wanted your opinion on something. I have 2 mk4s with poly bushings that are doing great. Stamped arms. I picked up some TT arms to swap in and am looking at poly for those. I watched the video here and the tare is no good. Do you think the sharp edge on the tt/32 arms is the cause here? The stamped arms have a smooth radius and the tt arms have that sharp edge. I am considering taking that edge off and roll with the same poly bushings I have on the stamped arms (new set, same bushing) Would be curious your thoughts here.
Thanks
Every few months I spray all my bushing and c.v boots with wd 40 silicone spray to keep them in good working order,it also stops them from drying out and cracking in the cold months.
THANK YOU!
Hi. Can you make a video explaining the coolant directions on the MK6 GTI
Good job on the control arm bushing repair and replacement thank you
Great movie because this is what I must to do to my MK4 GTI in the next days
Bafta sandule!!!
@@ArminVBThe1. Multumesc.
Ugh.. Always a rough job no matter how you cut it. That's one of the first things we'll have to do on our EK civic we just picked up.
Brother, the videos you create are freaking great!!!! Oh, need one more exclamation mark "!!!"
Went berserker over there, but the videos are worth it.!!!!! Boom! More exclamation marks.
I wish you picked your project car to be the same as my car, so the information will match and I can start wrenching.
Good stuff, my man. Keep doing the videos. I'll keep doing my part and click on the adverts even though I don't need what they are selling. 😂 🤣
Charles, Some questions: 1) when this bolt 4:00 was removed the first time (a year before this video was shot), how did you do it without breaking off the captive-nut on the subframe? What type of penetrating oil did you use, and do you possibly recommend using a mixture of automatic transmission fluid and acetone for this purpose? Apparently others on youtube feel that mixture is more effective than store bought penetrating oils. What's your opinion? 2) When this same bolt was removed, is it better to use a hand wrench or impact wrench to slowly/carefully break the bolt free after it has soaked in penetrating oil? 3) Before reinstalling the bolt, should the captive-nut and/or bolt be coated in any way (locktite? anti-seize compound? other?) before reassembly? 4) Is a specific alignment of the subframe necessary when subframe bolts are removed? I realize the control arm/ball joint linkage will require an alignment adjustment, but I'm specifically interested in knowing if an alignment adjustment is necessary on the subframe when those mounting bolts are removed. Outstanding video as usual! Very helpful.
solid bushings
Poly bushings typically last longer than traditional rubber ones. The hard part about selecting poly bushings is finding a company that has perfected the hardness/softness of the poly. Some aftermarket poly bushings are entirely too soft I've seen that quite a bit on aftermarket jeep bushings. Some are to stiff which is what Charles had an issue with. Too hard or stiff and the bushing can crack.
Great tips love watching your videos. Question for you, what’s the difference
between euro golf and a regular golf? Also I have trouble code P2177. The car
runs great. But at startup, the car sounds like it misfires, then it smooths out?
Any help is appreciated.
thanks for your video. 10/10
Nice vídeo, I removed all the subframe to restore and broke one 13mm bolt of the Power steering rack, do You have any idea how to remove?
And about the New bolts and nuts, which are the part codes please? Thanks
Hello again brother sorry for bugging but what is that lift called that you are using, and can you recommend a budget friendly similar type of lift? Thank you for your videos they real help a lot and thank you for your time.
Hey Charles hope all is good.
I have come across a problem with my lower control arm bushing on my golf r. I bought two new ones and tried doing the install myself but the driver side will not go it place on the rear.
My question is. On the left and right control arms are the rear bushing the same cause my driver side seems to look longer then the other. Thank you for any support
Bro! I'm thinking to swapped audi tt mk1 lower control arm on my vw golf vr6 24v.... do you think it's going to work?
Will be doing this on forward left upper control arm of a 04 TrailBlazer.
Nice I did both upper and lower control arm on my wife's 02 trailblazer but I bought the whole control arms and other suspension and steering stuff
Charles, where can I get that awesome quick jack you're using??
greatful video. thank you very muc.
Genuine parts ftw!
very good mechanic and great footage throughout :)
Thank you
By anychance did u do the vid of replacing the sub frame bushes
do you have a video on how to remove the rear OEM bushing? I've seen people having to cut the metal part out because the old rubber came apart.
Have you tried the Powerflex rose joint bushings in the rear of the front control arm? I replaced the bushings in my MK1 3.2 TT with factory rear bushings and the early model TT 30mm factory bushings and DEFCON spacers in the front. The factory rear bushings have already begun splitting with only 20k miles on them.
I’m thinking about replacing them with the rose joint bushings in the rear and 30mm poly bushings, or the GT1 bushings from FTD motorsports. Hopefully that will last longer and stiffen up the handling more.
Are the cast arms swappable for the the pressed steel arms
Do you push the old bushing out to the flat side or reverse back the way it went in???
Great video love a good R32, have a question how do u set the subframe as the holes are bigger then the bolts??? More 4 wheel alignment ???
I line them up with the marks they made on the subframe. Just like we lined up the nuts on the ctrl arm
how have you found the OEM bushings to be vs the polyurethane's?
I had a Mk3 do the exact same thing. Just ate the rear lower until it fell out.
It was funny returning the old bush to the supplier XD
What about to an MK4 Vr6 24V do you thing is better just to release the top engine mount and raise the engine to remove that bolt??
Hi, when you know to replace the bushings? The car makes start making noises when you steer left or right ??
Two different VWs with the 2.0T a 19 GLI and a 19 GTI rabbit have a code P050A. Any ideas to help my dealer to find what needs to be fixed?
Those solid rubber bushings are a nice upgrade for the Mk4 Jetta/Golf.
Yep. I have them in my mk3
I just replaced the front driver wheel bearing in my 04 r32 and the car is still giving me issues. The other side has a noise when I turn left and load the suspension and the driver suspension feels pretty shot. It has a lot of miles and has been kept in pretty good condition but I really don’t know what to do. Do you have any recommendations for how to figure out the problem?
Yuck water is the name of my new band. Lol awesome video as always👍
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Haha it’s what we yell out to my dog. He is old and like to drink out of water puddles in the yard. “Choey stop drinking that, it’s yuck water”
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@@HumbleMechanic hi Mr chris can you tell me please how does pistons move in cylinder does pistons move in rotational motion in cylinder well waiting for your humble reply thanks indeed
It seemed to me that you pushed out the old bushing on the larger flange side. Could be harder to extract?
What were the symptoms of the control arm bushing gone bad? Popping/clunk noises and indirect steering??
Great video. Very good and explained in detail. Do you always use OEM auto parts?
Not always. But a lot of the time OEM is great
It’s better to support and create weight on the external ball joint (like the car is sitting with the wheel on the ground)before tightening all the bolts and nuts of the control arm to spec because you can have premature worning on the bushing.
I hope I can be understand.(I’m Italian) 😅
I do final torque with the wheel back on and sitting on the ramps.
Hi I am changing my front control arms on Audi tt mk1 2 wheel drive I bought genuine bolts and see that the bolts same diameter but rear Bush 13mm so sloppy fit . Is this right. Thanks Ian.
Nice vid
Humble! Another great upload, Could you do a upload of removing and instaling front axle wheel bearings the correct way!
That’s a great video topic
@@HumbleMechanic Think i should get a shout out for that 😎❤
I got the same maker's like the blue one but with the set of colors nice man 👨 👌
I wondered what happened to Aaron from Gas Monkey Garage FastNLoud Show great to see him again on TH-cam awesome mechanic.
The sharpie trick or spray paint the ball joint nuts are my personal favorites. Alignment..pssh. "one time use" is the same as a little less torque. 😏. In all seriousness great content.
Thanks. Yeah I try and replace where I should but that gets $$$$$$
Comment from me, which really applies to all the vids I’ve seen in relation to replacing old bushings ……i think there would be some real value for viewers if you did an in depth description of the handling and ride before and after, so that we could know what to expect in terms of improvement to drive.
Hey Humble! Tks for this video!Let me ask you something. Shouldnt You torq the bushings only with the car wheels on the ground? My teacher aways said that all suspentions rubber parts adjust better when the weight is on it and that this procedure avoid bushings getting cracked by torsion when finally the car get to the ground. Once again, tks for all of your videos!
This is a good habit but always follow the repair manual
yeah never had luck with cheaper poly bushings that are soft, strongly recomend superpro only brand that has lifetime warranty, they have an internal cross hatch that holds the grease in place never seen it on any other brand
hi i have a vw vr6 2.8 12v i would like to know can i put a audi a3 a4 6 speed box in as a upgrade and is it straight fit?
Yep, it's always important to get your bottom hole lined up properly!!!
Which quickjack is that?
No lower brace, or did you remove it befor the video?
So you don’t have to have the car on it’s natural weight before torquing to torque specs? I’ve heard it can rip the bushing if you tighten all the way before on natural weight.
Instead of loosening the subframe, loosen the lower transmission-mount and loosen the controlarm as shown (don't forget to loosen the drive axle nut too and pull it out of the knuckle). Pry on the transmissionside just far enough so you can pull the bolt out (passengerside). I haven't touched the subframebolts doing it this way. I replaced my controlarm bushings (old one was with channels) with the ones from the Audi S3. But the R32/Audi TT/Audi S3 all uses the same rear solid controlarm bushings and they will fit ALL mk4 cars.
Plenty of ways to get it done. I like this way. Done hundreds of these like that. Lol
I like the idea of going OE -> Aftermarket - > OE, provides some real concrete testing of the value. AND maybe, just maybe, VW had it right in the first place.
You can also use a bench vise to remove/install the bushings
Yep. I think I mentioned that in the video
Do up the bolts until they break, take them out, start again!!! hehehehe!! Good job mate.
I'm a woman with a 2012 Passat. Love the car. I was at the dealer this morning and was told I needed to "replace the lower control arm bushing" right side-they want to replace the whole bracket. Sounds good, based upon your vids. Should I replace the left side at the same time or does it matter? Thanks. Love your videos.
I’d do both sides on that one!
Please tell me the model of your lift.
Will those Mk4 R32 rear bushings fit in the rear spot on the Mk7 Golf R front LCA’s? I see that the Mk7’s have voids.
Thanks!
No. Those are a different bushing I think
Hi there!!! What tires do you have mounted in the car? I know it is Bridgestone but i want to know the model and specific size and if it is available for 16inch rims. Thanks!
Not sure on 16”. I got them from tire rack. They are RE-71r 235/40/18
Older, single lady, that is so grateful for you and your videos. I have a 2012 Jetta SEL. I always review the repair before I let the shop work on my vehicle, so as to have a idea of the extent of the repair and parts required . I do take my vehicle to a reputable European auto shop. ( but, you can never be to informed). You mention the nuts are one time use, and replace the two bolts..when I look up the OEM bushing, there’s no reference to the nuts and bolts. Is that just common knowledge to a tech to replace those? Thank you again!
So when you look them up they say to replace. If they are (tty)Torque to yield stretch bolts they need replaced because they don’t have same clamping force they originally had with torque specs. Guy at VW told me the techs do reuse unless looks damaged and couldn’t believe it so just very critical bolts should be replaced like hub and areas with spinning movement.
I have a question concerning the one time use ball joint nuts. When the alignment guy adjusts those aren't they then toast again?
Technically yes. :( I’ll probably reuse once or twice
That's why I'd keep the ball joint on the control arm when removing it - just split the ball joint from the hub. No need for realignment ;)
Humble Mechanic,
Are the plastic bushings that you're replacing in this video the ones that were damaged in your autocrats video the came out today September 2nd or 3rd ?
No, the ones that failed are the ones that I clean and reinstall
Aren't suspension bolts supposed to be tightened in the loaded state, i.e. wheel is standing on the ground?
I'm glad my subaru just bolts up from the bottom. Non of this lowing subframe, malleting it in stuff.
Designed to fail. They direction the bushing attaches, compared to the direction the arm moves when the suspension goes up or down...it strikes me that the stiffer the bushing, the sooner it fails. Odd they didn't have the rear pivot point allow for free motion in the same plane as the front. You'd think that would make for more supple and more controllable suspension movement - or maybe a heim joint for the more spirited driving enthusiast (although that may transmit a little too much NVH.)
Poly is definitely the worst material to put in a position like that too. I think there's a reason that VW stopped putting the solid rubber LCA bushings in the newer R's, as well. Optimally, a spherical bearing is what you need. The comfort of the drive will be sacrificed at that point, however, but it'd be top notch for handling.
Where are you getting these torque specs from also where did you get the nuts and bolts from? Vw dealer? Or a hardware store. Thanks Charles
Factory repair manual of course
@@HumbleMechanic thanks do you have a link for it (im in the UK) and own a mk5 r32
Question, why are there using angles like torque to yield bolts ?, other cars can reuse the bolts for control arm so why reolace every time???
You torqued all screws in fee air? Also - ELSA says that bushing even if they are solid, have marking on them