A+ Scouts Build Order - With Extended Commentary
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How to get an A+ in the interactive build order tutorial by Cicero, available on the AoE2:DE workshop. This build order is very useful as a pocket player in team games.
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Seems pretty easy.... grade F
haha same and I thought I was doing well already lol
Lol I'm a total noob too. It sure feels good to lower your fast times though. I'm working on Dark Age atm
More than D I didn't get for the scouts into archers one. What I did better was scouting the full map while doing the build, so I got that working for me.
@@MrTeknown in the video he is not even scouting but getting A+. However i will give it a try.
@@galaxian_hitchhiker its not easy if you are nopb
Thanks for these interactive build orders, just found them from mod menu and I love them! My rating jumped instantly by few 10's :D
Hello ZeroEmpires, thank you for the awesome content! We all would really appreciate if you could continue the BO guide series.
Regards,
Anton
thank you man i give these tutorial to a friend that started new and he now can the basics :D
Have been looking to those for DE since the beginning! Thnx
Me too
You forgot another scout build order : The Scout into GG.
So helpful, and luckily as well as finally DE too!
Very nice ! thank you it will help me a lot. Keep going !
Pretty much the exact same build that was taught to me in 2001 :D
by whom?
Great content man :D subscribed
Great job! Thanks 😁
Dope shit, ty!
Thanks dude
Awesome!
Thanks alot @cicero and zero empires!
Are there any videos available for the other build orders? Keep struggling to get that A + for the Archer build order. Think it would definitly help to see what i'm doing wrong.
Any more videos on build orders comming up? Really would like to see an archer one at A+.
Also my map is different after the vietnamese eco patch. Which seed (in editor) did you use for this video?
Here after aoe4 vid the other day!
Nice vid
You play with the Vietnamese, whose economic bonuses don't cost any wood. This probably affects how easy it is to reach, given that houses, blacksmith, and farms are essential to get the timing right.
Thank you
Finally, I know what to do when I get Spanish Flank instead of instant resigning.
god this is hard hahaha
so proud of my C grade
Has anyone else noticed his map is upside down compared to how it is in the real scenario? His berries are at the top instead of the bottom etc. I've played the scenario several times and it's always like his map but flipped. Maybe there is some command to flip map I'm unaware of or he is playing an older version of the scenario? Anyway the video is still useful! ty!
I need someone to speak the BO to me while a game is playing. If i had a TH-cam video that was timed with the villager creations, I'd be set.
Does the mod give you details about the grade? E.g. you got C because you didn't do x, y, z quite the best.
I only seem to get grade in the end but no info about what were the suboptimalities or at least which targets I missed. Am I missing something?
No, but it grades you along the way, like when you actually hit Feudal
it grades with time only
Hey ZE! What can you tell us about ECL? Is it really dead after the poor viewers results?! :(
hey guys, I almost have this build down but @2:08 the boar stays near the TC for him, which isnt the case in the game right now and I always end up eating a sheep and a boar at the same time and many times have some idle time bcause I forget to drop off boar food :(
Seems bugged right now. I only got a A+ for uptime and 6 scouts, but then only a C for castle. I retried, utterly optimised the castle time by using a market for a 15:xx uptime, and still only received a C.
Hey, would you be able to give us a download link for a manual installation? As of right now, it's the only way for me and a bunch of other people to use mods, because of a bug in the in-game installer. I'd love to try that scenario and the other ones that you presented/will present.
www.ageofempires.com/mods/details/2359
@@gordonshumway2532 Seems you didn't understand my point. This method of installation doesn't work for a lot of players. I was asking for a link to the zip file directly.
are you guys the p word by any chance
GOAL: Build 21 villagers
Build 2 houses
Scout boar and sheep
Harvest sheep after houses
Build lumberyard 1
Lure boar 1
Build 2 houses
Build Mill on berries
Lure boar 2
Build 2 farms
Send new villagers directly to lumberyard
Build lumberyard 2
Reasearch Loom
---(Reasearch feudal age)
Build barracks
Build stable
Upgrade mill
Upgrade lumberyard
Build gold mine 1
Build 6 farms
Build 6 scouts
Build 2 houses
Build 6 farms
Build 2 houses
Build 4 farms in place of berry farm when exhuasted
Reasearch wheelbarrow
Build blacksmith
Force farms to deposit food
---(Reasearch castle age)
After (not kidding) 10 tries I finally managed to get my highest grade of... E.
This is hard
bro ikr,
i constantly forget a vil on a boar that dies, forget to build houses and lose a second of vil making in the town center
my boar just keeps running away, once i garrison the hunter? How do you make it stay at the tc? Did they patch that, or am i doing something wrong?
Should I try this until I get A+ or should I just play multiplayer after getting a decent grade like C?
I saw ppl like t90 only gets like a C or sth.
So are these Mods only available with the definite edition of the game?
Guess I have to do a purchase
I am always getting reasonable (A+/A) ranks on feudal, but then my final rating is hardly ever better than C. I have no idea what I am doing wrong in the feudal age, but this happens consistently with virtually every single BO. :/ What I also noticed is that my berries always finish way sooner (like at least 20 secs sooner) before the guide tells me to do something with the vills on the berries even though I always double check that I don't have more on them, and I even started compensating by building the extra houses with always vills on berries. In BOs where the berry vills just go to wood this isn't much of a concern, but when I'm tight on wood and they were supposed to build farms it slows down my progress considerably.
If the berries finish early send them to gold so that you have 5 there. If you want to go into knights in castle age you should have more gold anyway so that's not really an issue
Either that or to wood, in the case you want to boom it's ok to have 12 on wood or even more to be sure that you can build the extra tcs right away.
Can someone tell me why it still says i need 8 vills on boar when i boar have already disappeared?
Because the Bo follows the time of the game and not your actions. It means you went too fast on something
@@Tsheepac That's a final BS!!!!
Show us how to generate different maps for the same build order just so that it doesn't get stale if possible
diccus maximus watch the first Info video of zac in the scenario there he explains what to do. (I don’t know right now hence I don’t write it. )
Load it up in the scenario editor and then follow these steps. imgur.com/a/S85Z2O8
you should put more sheeps or boars just in case... i mean im newbie but Scouts-Archers only have 1 boar and i explored the whole map .....
Are the prompts based on 3 boars being present? Because there's definitely only 2 on the map currently available for download.
that usually means your timing is way off... i know this as i am constantly late on the prompts :D
When I load up the first interactive BO on the list after installing the mod(which includes my game restart) your narration is absent unfortunately...Is this a problem or was I wrong in my presumption that your narration was supposed to be guiding players throughout the BO?
agentx9 equals I read posts of people having the same problem. Some told restart would do. But you did as you told. Maybe restart pc. Narrator guides you.
@@tropby2 Thanks I appreciate the help. I'll go ahead and give the restarting pc a shot...dunno why I didn't try that first before posting my comment
Remember to restart the game after downloading.
Where were the scouts??
How can you force vils to drop resourse to tower center. Is it two steps Garrison???
9:49 - It is just garrison (alt + right-click). It is better than right clicking the town hall because the villagers will not collide on the way there and you can use the garrison button on the town hall after to have them go back to the farms they were on.
2:46 - He does it with right click when the villagers are already under the town hall.
BikeIndianHat! :D
How to scout the same spot for 15 Minutes 101
Should you send scouts to attack the enemy ASAP or wait until you have 6 ready? I usually do the former, and then add additional scouts as they are created, but obviously this means your opponent can react with spears before you're at full strength. If I'm pocket in team games I like to hit the enemy flank ASAP, then pull back when they make spears, wait until I'm at full strength, and then go for my opposing pocket.
I'm a noob but I personally think you should wait until at LEAST 3 but usually 4 or else the unupgraded scouts won't be able to accomplish anything
3 scouts can make for a lot of idle time. just send them out when you have 3 and keep adding more. don't need to kill villagers, just get idle time on woodline, berries etc
@@stijnhintzen Cost to effectiveness needs to be taken into account. If you can't kill or make them idle enough to waste more resources than you've spent on scouts isn't that you failing?
150booyadragon 2 scouts can make them idle for a start, that’s better than to just wait.
But waiting can be an ok stray too, IF you don’t show your hand to the enemy.
150booyadragon no, you’re not losing the scouts in the progress. You’ll use them continuously throughout the feudal age
Usually at my Elo if you build units = you win
I dont really like that DE Version doesnt let you choose civs...
Would be great to test how you do with like mongols or huns
Thats not the game, the tutorial is designed that way, because the Vietnamese don't get an eco-bonus.
@@andreaskerscher235 I know that... But its nice to get a comparison, how much better you do at other civs...
but well, you can still edit the maps...
I clicked to castle at 17:10 with 800 wood in the bank and got F, even though feel like it was better than F. I did accidentally build extra vils during dark age so I guess the mission got messed up.
It is working as intended. Your Castle time was good, but your Feudal time and 6 scouts benchmarks were less good so your grade was capped.
@@cicero8676 I guess that's fair. I keep getting F from all missions except the ones where Castle age is a determining factor (Knights or Unique unit build orders).
game sounds is a bit too loud compared to commentary
can you also play this in multiplayer to compete against a friend?
No its forbidden. The only strategy u are allowed to do in multiplayer is to pick Persians and douche the opponent with TC
How do you make the board stand under your TC for all eternity. I always have it walking away at random times so by the team I let my villager come back out the boar is already out of sight and it's game over with the timing.
likewise. Can anyone explain this?
@@redbikerdude same ! any idea ?
He makes the villager to hide inside TC (door button)
Yoooooo
Highest I got was B.. I'll be honest with you and didn't think it was humanly possible to get an A...
In BO 3,5,6. You will be given an C as final grades even if you finish all the things in time (as shown in the triggers 3a+). I have finished all the missions with a+ except for these three final grades. I don't know how to contact Cicero. Anyone knows how to contact Cicero, please tell Cicero to fix this. Thank you.
Perhaps it's because the population...
I am guessing you idled your TC to click up, or otherwise had a fair bit of idle TC? This will limit your grade.
@@cicero8676 Thank you for reply, but I have found the problem. It is because I clicked up without reaching the threshold for viliagers. For example, you set 39 villagers as the threshold for getting an A+ in addition to the threshold of up time (in 3.Sounts-Archers). I clicked up in time but with less than 39 villagers and failed to get an A+. I think it's better to indicate the number of villagers in Objectives of each mission.
@@cicero8676 And anyway, I have accomplished all the A+ now. Thank you for this great work.
8 villagers can collect from a single sheep, why do you split them into 2 groups?
Maybe because the crowd when they're walking
having 8 vills on a single sheep isn't going to help much. rather split them in two to get two sheeps done.
You want 8 on boar not sheep.
@@ceshmate1953 you are wasting too much food from decay this way. Always collect from a single sheep.
@@mustafaoliwy282 When you use 8 shepherds, I'm not sure if it's not entirely negligible to have 8 over 4+4. Spirit of the law has a video on the topic: th-cam.com/video/B0FoBJbqNsI/w-d-xo.html .
When you have 8 on one, they finish a sheep very quickly and you might make a mistake/they end up splitting towards two or even worse three sheep, possibly also not under your TC that you "parked", where as 4+4 might be tad easier to manage.
I would guess 4+4 vs 8 decay rate/final food gathered is in practice so similar that it's literally neglibile. Thus you should do what you're more confident with. I try to make it a habbit gather 1 at a time.
In the M@A -> Archers, you are left with 9 boarhunters at a point. The guide doesn't tell you to make 1 farm at that point, and even doing so is abit tight (it happens around 19-20 pop where u want both a barrack, mining camp and a house).
Looking forward to @ZeroEmpires vid of M@A -> archers. I'm quite an "old" newb, but of what I hear the M@A -> archers is one of the tighter feudal BO's. Managing to get a C atm.
what is the next job hotkeys in 00:14
pressing shift and right click
Clicked at 16:30, grade C. Okay.
It doesn't work, instructions are actually duplicated and never pass from a poor F.
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