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  • @Ondrik7622
    @Ondrik7622 4 ปีที่แล้ว +703

    Lol I actually broke the damn streak haha

    • @TheTattorack
      @TheTattorack 4 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      Yeah thank the gods! No one man should have this much power unchecked!

    • @Mzuka-Moto
      @Mzuka-Moto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Was hoping for a longer video. Thanks a lot!!

    • @TheChimples
      @TheChimples 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Haha gg man

    • @johnkimbalb
      @johnkimbalb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Lucky tc ... Lol

    • @Mysteria9
      @Mysteria9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@johnkimbalb Lucky? You mean well placed :)

  • @JohnSmith-hc5iu
    @JohnSmith-hc5iu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    This is a great series. I'm definitely looking forward to watching more.

    • @samwisegamgee8318
      @samwisegamgee8318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Little did he know... there would be no more

  • @Soviless99
    @Soviless99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    4:29 im that female villager and the rhino is life

    • @MadPutz
      @MadPutz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      And the scout is self-doubt

  • @morguhl
    @morguhl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    id like to see this go on!

  • @holo1782
    @holo1782 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Cool Idea for a series, keep it up

  • @romanmueller3479
    @romanmueller3479 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Against me you will win endless amounts of games with this strategy.

  • @eMpTy0911
    @eMpTy0911 4 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    really nice idea for a series. I think a forward baracks would have improved this strat a lot ;)
    I don't like that you broke your own rules and went castle + mangonel. The fun part about this weird cheese strat is the commitment. just rush down the tc with man at arms while the corpses of your units pile up when they will not resign

    • @ZeroEmpires
      @ZeroEmpires  4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Fair point! I’ll make sure to do that next time ;)

    • @Zonalyre
      @Zonalyre 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@ZeroEmpires I agree with the original comment. You could maybe change the rule of no more vils in feudal so you can develop a better economy and mass produce those men at arms. It would be awesome to see you take down TCs with just pure brute force in feudal. Anyway, great video!

    • @derdurstbursch
      @derdurstbursch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Zonalyre exactly. I was wondering why the villager limitation was there at all! 🤔

    • @Machoman50ta
      @Machoman50ta หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ZeroEmpiresbrother in Christ hope you are ok😅

  • @Nendonintendo
    @Nendonintendo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Puns and cheese... Cheesepuns... Yes please. Couldnt have asked for a better series, keep it up my man

  • @PauxloE
    @PauxloE 4 ปีที่แล้ว +179

    I think you could have mentioned at the start why the bulgarians are uniquely suitable for this strategy.

    • @darthrevan926
      @darthrevan926 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      He did say they get the man at arms upgrade for free. What else is there to say?

    • @matthaeushilpold2134
      @matthaeushilpold2134 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      wouldn't the lithuanians be better?

    • @liamkerbey8320
      @liamkerbey8320 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@matthaeushilpold2134 Lithuanians allows a faster dark age rush of militia and possibly faster Feudal. However the M@A upgrade is 140 resources and involves a training time and idling barracks production. Bulgarians are strong not only because they skip the cost of M@A upgrade but because the upgrade is instant upon arriving Feudal. Militia trained in dark age will arrive just in time to be upgraded by the bonus. Not to mention in this strategy it's not a typical M@A rush to slow the opponent with 3-5 but is an ongoing spam of them to overwhelm and close out the game. A Lithuanian style would promote a fast castle behind Militia whilst Bulgarians better promotes the M@A spam.
      Both have a bonus to help the strategy yes, I would argue Bulgarians bonus is that little bit better in this case.

    • @matthaeushilpold2134
      @matthaeushilpold2134 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@liamkerbey8320 thanks though! Denying berries gold and lumber with a hefty drush (say, 10 militia) with lithuanians, then up to feudal for m@a -> would that be a thing?

    • @liamkerbey8320
      @liamkerbey8320 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@matthaeushilpold2134 its a very 'cheesy' all in strategy. It might pay off for you in winning some games but if you cant find the damage considering your large investment then you will lose.
      You wouldnt see this at a pro level as they easily counter it with walling vills and getting archers out to kite MaA. The heavy investment into so many MaA would delay castle too much and then they would quickly lose to knights or simply get outboomed.
      3 militia should be enough to delay your opponent. If you make 10 you essentially need to kill them for it to pay off.

  • @Jixxor
    @Jixxor 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn that was amazingly entertaining. Watching 9 matches compressed into 25minutes really kept it exciting non-stop even tho it was always the exact same strat. Would love to see more of that :)

  • @thynaruto
    @thynaruto 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    More of these please. I really enjoy you illustrating and teaching these strat

  • @Michal235
    @Michal235 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Nice video! As you start with 200 stone and never use it in this strategy, there is some space for improvement. Collect 50 more stone and go for 2 towers in a spots where you can't hit directly with the man-at-arms. For example in the last game a single tower behind his wood line (which he wouldn't even notice before it'd be up) would win the game. Send 2-3 vills to tower up and add 2-3 vills from the TC to keep your eco on the proper level

  • @randomai464
    @randomai464 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome dude! Love seeing your videos again. Keep it up please!

  • @Scarfacefrostborn
    @Scarfacefrostborn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I really hope this is the start of a new favourite series of mine. Great idea zak I love the format and the editing. Ideas for other cheese strats could be endless hoang rush never going feudal or tati rush? :)

  • @ShadowCrystallux
    @ShadowCrystallux 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Time for an update: "How many games can I win with only Militia? AoE2:DE | Goths Edition"

    • @ADCFproductions
      @ADCFproductions 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How many games can i win by ONLY luring the enemy's boar?? FIND OUT SOON!!!
      Answer:
      NONE!

  • @MrEpic325
    @MrEpic325 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    was so pumped to find another cool age yt and see a cool unique series but then see there’s only one video in the playlist and he hasn’t uploaded in a year ;(

  • @satyakisil9711
    @satyakisil9711 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is how I play Goths. Because who would want to wait till Imperial Age when you can flood your enemies with infantry in the Feudal Age?

  • @olegdragora2557
    @olegdragora2557 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I liked to see how this strategy could be followed with aging up, mangonel, etc.
    Yes, it breaks the rule.
    But helps to learn how to use the strategy effectively.
    I think it's much better than another "challenge" video.

  • @DjSapsan
    @DjSapsan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i did it it with slavs all the time. I won 20 games in row and got #3 during the beta

  • @Icagel0
    @Icagel0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At this point should've played the last game just to see where it would rank in the leader boards, good series!

  • @JHsillypantsMcGee
    @JHsillypantsMcGee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Man At Arms = my favorite unit also the best :)

    • @mmmzzzz560
      @mmmzzzz560 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yeah same. They look sexy to me

  • @MorleyGames1
    @MorleyGames1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Mascarpone haha I definitely puffed some air out of my nose at that

  • @maxmustermann1225
    @maxmustermann1225 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    very nice format, pls do more!

  • @kubasooo
    @kubasooo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    how about a classic, c̶a̶n̶n̶o̶n̶ tower rush.

  • @Andy_the_X
    @Andy_the_X 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What a great idea! Keep it up!

  • @vichonavarrete9929
    @vichonavarrete9929 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    That shr!mp last guy was my opponent in a game today

    • @ZeroEmpires
      @ZeroEmpires  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      How did it go?

    • @vichonavarrete9929
      @vichonavarrete9929 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ZeroEmpires he started spamming just cammels in post imp in the arena map, but I had map control so I won

    • @ADCFproductions
      @ADCFproductions 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vichonavarrete9929 no way, you flipped the shr!mp??? :O

  • @hurlok
    @hurlok 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved it! Would definitely like to see more. I'd also like it if you allowed yourself margin of deviation from the cheese, so that if you think you can win the game with a tweak, you can apply it.

  • @forsakenquery
    @forsakenquery 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What an amazing series. I hope you come back to do more.

  • @airindex256
    @airindex256 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love this series idea, but you should definitely be allowed to keep producing villagers. I want to see how far this can go.

    • @rickychardzz
      @rickychardzz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Especially with blacksmith upgrades cheaper you can have fully upgraded man at arms pretty quickly

  • @moracomole8090
    @moracomole8090 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    15:50 I have the High ground, don't do this

  • @MrTeknown
    @MrTeknown 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We need more videos man!

  • @MirkeLP
    @MirkeLP 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Someone did this to me yesterday. I won so i feel like 300 elo higher now :D

  • @ailst
    @ailst 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super entertaining kind of video. Would love to see more like this. :)

  • @fiable262626
    @fiable262626 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow love the concept of taking a cheesy strategy and seeing it play out several times in one condensed video.

  • @SandwichIsGreatForMe
    @SandwichIsGreatForMe 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Huge video, thanks from a foreigner, very clear ! +1 sub

  • @TheContraCode
    @TheContraCode 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the quality content!

  • @rafad9044
    @rafad9044 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great series!
    Andrzej the 'mask a pony' was a masterpiece!

  • @QazwerDave
    @QazwerDave 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes !!
    Interesting. More of this !!

  • @MrChiefsmaster
    @MrChiefsmaster 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Only man at arms? Is this mangonel a disguised man at arms? ;)
    Nice video, I love, how you explain your actions, keep going!

  • @moistymilitia4531
    @moistymilitia4531 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was awesome to follow alongside!

  • @BudrMac
    @BudrMac 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    5:44 It "Woloallow" you to do a surprise landing?

  • @fanslifejapan255
    @fanslifejapan255 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    very good play.
    i guess you reacted well when the situation turned bad at some games. It seems to be a workable strategy at the intermediate level(or even upper-inter)
    I feel like the intermediate level doesnt react very well to Drush, and they kind of collapse when the start doesnt go smoothly

    • @wolfgangbr1576
      @wolfgangbr1576 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      As someone within this group: its true. Any game vs Lithuanians with fast drush I died so hard it was embarrassing :D

  • @corvo1068
    @corvo1068 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A bit similar to this strat, but you could try to go Feudal as fast as possible with Lithuanians (and their +150 food bonus), maybe with 14 vils, then make archers from two ranges. Or tower rush + walls.

  • @TheChimples
    @TheChimples 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice idea, yeah keep going with this.

  • @Soviless99
    @Soviless99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i do something similar with the magyars with scout cavalry and a blacksmith. also as you progressed in games you adjust your strat like making spearmen lol

  • @ahuzel
    @ahuzel 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fun games, keep doing these.
    Also i think that this strat has a sort of "ELO" cap, at certain point you will face people who actually wall or counter you strat with the obvious deficiences, like low eco, almos not scouting and slow speed, 3 miners in a far gold for example.

  • @shinuito
    @shinuito 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does feel like a “Sandbagger Series”. Very fun/entertaining to watch, but not sure if it’s enjoyable for the other players.

  • @amnesia9231
    @amnesia9231 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've played 90 hours of Bulgarians so far, I love this civ. Im not a great AOE2 player but this strat makes me laugh

  • @petermari8299
    @petermari8299 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I fight like pig on the ice for months to break the 1000 and you troll yourself up to ~1300 straight away, feels good :D But nice vid :)

  • @ProperComment
    @ProperComment 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Welcome back , cheers

  • @iceefrags8770
    @iceefrags8770 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That cheese joke was amazing dude!

  • @solidthoughtpoker5207
    @solidthoughtpoker5207 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a great video! :)

  • @Dakta96
    @Dakta96 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is great, you should do more!

  • @blazkelbl
    @blazkelbl 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great format of the video.
    Edit: the pun is Andy Ostroy...

  • @nineonine9082
    @nineonine9082 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome
    Hope to see more =)

  • @gunarsmiezis9321
    @gunarsmiezis9321 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Geting 47 elo in 1 game, for someone who has spent a lot of time trying to go up in dota2 quickly I so with the k factor was not 50 in that game.

  • @josephloper3442
    @josephloper3442 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    NEED MORE of these!

  • @EpicCookieGamer
    @EpicCookieGamer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I chuckled and then exhaled at 20:20... it's like he knew

  • @CxR2262
    @CxR2262 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome idea for a series

  • @Trr1ppy
    @Trr1ppy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    yes please more fondue!

  • @muxmastermann420
    @muxmastermann420 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved the video! Do another one with only archer rush!

  • @Trr1ppy
    @Trr1ppy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice, this is going in my strat book

  • @WaddleQwacker
    @WaddleQwacker 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    May I say that I ate a nice fondue yesterday evening with my parents, sis, step bro and nephews. It was delicious. We all left the table with double-sized bellies.

  • @iceefrags8770
    @iceefrags8770 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this series. also great name "manwitharms". please do more in this series like cuman TC douche, or incan vill and trush

  • @picturamusica-musicalpaint1074
    @picturamusica-musicalpaint1074 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    17:21 ! no I was waiting for 40 man at arms to destroy the town centreeeeeeeeeeee

  • @Fungustus1
    @Fungustus1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Liked!

  • @MorganEarlJones
    @MorganEarlJones 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've always been pretty shit at AoE2, playing it very casually since I was first show how to torrent it by the boys on the gamemakergames IRC channel, but even I recently found man at arms production really easy to exploit.

  • @nimbostratue
    @nimbostratue 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to see you repeat the same strategy but with a twist which is that you are allowed to build as many offensive/defensive towers as necessary in feudal age and you can train as much villagers as you want. Also in castle age you are allowed to create as many mangonels and scorpions as you want

    • @dwightmanne
      @dwightmanne 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      So just play normally...

  • @grobisam
    @grobisam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please finish your tutorials serie it's one of the best on youtube

  • @davidvanvugt347
    @davidvanvugt347 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    @ZeroEmpires will you make more Strat Fondue vids? Can't wait!

  • @rajarakeshsingh
    @rajarakeshsingh 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    best aoe cast ever

  • @barsni4779
    @barsni4779 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "My opponent insists on playing on". Cheese comes with salt after all. Betrayed by barracks placement of all things though.
    By the way, I wonder if slavs are capable of cheese with their free supplies. It is more expensive tech then man-at-arms and will pay off in about ten units created in feudal, wich in collusion with faster farmers could potentially allow to even add vills at home.
    ...Initial attack being delayed by infantry upgrade sucks though, but it could be something of an element of surprise for usual lategame civ, right?
    P.S. Khmers are seemingly immune to man at arms cheeses, right?

    • @krystofcisar469
      @krystofcisar469 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Malay could be also good because their quick up time

  • @racedrummer1
    @racedrummer1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah I like this. Take more ingrediens for your fondue and try with different cheesy like strats! I love it!

  • @Cal97g
    @Cal97g 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Deadass making a new steam account for this

  • @bcn1gh7h4wk
    @bcn1gh7h4wk 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I played not man-at-arms but long swordsman, and light cavalry.
    I didn't have gold for upgrades, so I left it at that, put all my efforts to farming food, and basically swarmed the enemy with massive charges.
    ........ they ran out of gold, then they ran out of troops, and buildings, and finally of willpower.
    low-tech rush has to be nicknamed "The Russian" by now.

  • @devagr
    @devagr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So what other strategy fondues are coming up?

  • @thisnameisnotfake517
    @thisnameisnotfake517 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    sicc strat for my favorite civ

  • @marcosyy87
    @marcosyy87 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice video

  • @Orbis85
    @Orbis85 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great strategy! Where this build order can be found? I'm very interested on trying it, but I asume it doesn't work with 9 on Food, 2 on Wood and 3 on Gold right off the bat, right? I understand from the video you re-assign vills here and there to prevent falling short on Wood for Barracks and Mill/ Lumber Camp or getting TC idle time...
    Great content anyway and I'd love to see more videos for this series!

  • @John-jc3ty
    @John-jc3ty 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    a singular man at arm

  • @o2Tenka
    @o2Tenka 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've fought Shr!mp some time ago, I used a lot of trash on him. I don't like 1v1 tho and he didn't appreciate me making the game last so long.

  • @rajarakeshsingh
    @rajarakeshsingh 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    go to the top with this

  • @forsakenquery
    @forsakenquery 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Worth noting it is possible to take down a TC with MAA once you get both smith upgrades. You need a lot however (35 or 40 from memory). This was probably the way you could have won the last game.

  • @SpineShank7
    @SpineShank7 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn. My guess was 9. You almost had it!

  • @santiagojulianlingeri5386
    @santiagojulianlingeri5386 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So damn funny. Im a noob but still gonna try this. I think of a full feudal thrash all-in maybe could work.

  • @Pantera1001
    @Pantera1001 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm subscribed to this channel yet I've never seen a video from here as a suggestion. Anyone else?

  • @FredroStarr12
    @FredroStarr12 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    trying to do this vs the "hard" ai and failed.. had to go full HAM with the cobra car :D
    You should have shown your time stats in these videos, I'm wondering how fast you need to up.
    The AI was smart with archers and it's tough to avoid tc fire

    • @insearchofvalue8034
      @insearchofvalue8034 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      does not work with AI so well because AI will miro every unit heavily and it spreads its units far off but i have been doing this with goths and so far 3 straight wins from yesterday plan to continue till i can

  • @liamanstiss412
    @liamanstiss412 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the series idea.
    For the lazy what is the general build order guide?

  • @36424567254
    @36424567254 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i think vills should be allowed. So that you can add barracks and really spam those MAA and potentially brute force through defences. The cheese strat must be relentless :D

  • @CrazyHammer100
    @CrazyHammer100 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    manwitharms 111 awesome video

  • @Luisin88
    @Luisin88 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool Vlog!

  • @Vladd0r
    @Vladd0r 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Man with arms xD

  • @zwojack7285
    @zwojack7285 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think I need a proper build order for that. Can I read it up anywhere?

  • @Prebound_
    @Prebound_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    No other game will make you rage like this one.

  • @xvphysics673
    @xvphysics673 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Zeroempires can you make a cuman feudal age ram push (R-rush) video for strat fondue. 😁

    • @xvphysics673
      @xvphysics673 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also great content my favorite I hope you continue

    • @Maxi_Moxn
      @Maxi_Moxn 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Like Viper did at NAC3 on Arena?

  • @Zepoz
    @Zepoz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You kind of sound like History With Hilbert even though the Dutch are unplayable in AoE II.

    • @christopherlane467
      @christopherlane467 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sad thing is, they perfectly could be; either as the Frisians (their direct descendants who had history with both the Franks, Germans and Vikings at the beginning of the middle ages) or the Flemish (who were a bit more well known abroad) Both of these civilizations would be perfect imo for a proto-dutch addition in the timeframe of AOE2, since they fit the criteria for inclusion

    • @christopherlane467
      @christopherlane467 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Robzah although I wholeheartedly agree, Wouldn't adding wallachians (I would call them vlachs or Romanians tbh) mean that the Dracula campaign would have to be overhauled? Also, what would set apart wallachians from the Russian slavs? Or the Serbians for that matter? Because iirc they still had very similar societal structures and military types at the time, even if their cultures were different.

    • @DrStench13
      @DrStench13 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Dutch only became prominent very late in the middle ages and were no more than a few unified provinces before that. It would make sense if it was a very imperial age focused civ. I see a trading bonus and a unique ship unit on water; one that makes the opponent lose gold when they kill it. And most importantly: the ability to build on top of shallows.

  • @christian9540
    @christian9540 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bet Hoang left a like.

  • @935AscensionGroup
    @935AscensionGroup 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is like the AOE DE version of the classic SC II double 11 rax xD

  • @vysearcadia522
    @vysearcadia522 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    We call this “Man-At-Arms Nothing”.

  • @zuowang5481
    @zuowang5481 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    when does the next video come out?