PC37X is a Perfect Gaming Headphone
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That intro sound was nuts. Good work.
It's Myysk - DRAGS
I've owned the PC37X for over a year now & absolutely love them for gaming!
Solid build, sound & mic quality for $100+.
I use my HD6XX for music/productivity & those do a great job.
Great video Joshua!
Ayo Gee so the imaging is that good?
why don't you use the 6xx for gaming though?
@@Daniel-vk7rr The 6XX is more of an Audiophile headset while the PC37X is more raw performance
I picked these up a couple months ago and since, I’ve seen Z’s review and now yours and I feel even better about them. It took me so long to find a set of minimal semi-open back headphones or headset and these were just about a unicorn for me. I picked up an extra pair during Drops audio week just in case.
The into for this video is my favorite, so far. Sounded sooooo good in my Sennheiser Pink Floyd edition HD1 headphones.
I have the PC373D (pretty much the same I think) and HD58x. The 373D edges it for online play, the HD58x for when I want to get immersed in SP. Both through a Creative G6 👍
Could you explain what differences make you say that?
Love your intros man
Had the DT1990 for a year and they're also great for both gaming and music. Great precision on the imaging and good soundstage so that's an absolutely great choice for under 500€.
This amazing review finalized my decision to purchase this headset - thank you!
convinced me to go for the hd58x because I wanted an all-rounder, thanks for the advice!
I actually very much enjoy listening to music on them. What you said about them not being on the immersive side for gaming is very true, which is why I especially like them for music, and less for gaming. But technically they do perform great in gaming like you mentioned.
Very high quality video. New subscriber!
Great review man, you are killing it lately in terms of reviewing currently relevant stuff.
I previously owned and loved the HD 598, but once I got the 58x I ended up selling it. The 58x lacks in soundstage vs the 598, but its superior in everything else. For gaming, its the best competitive fps headphone I've ever used. I also have and love the X2HR for that wide "immersive" feeling you were talking about. Still I'm interested in the PC37x for the mic and headset simplicity- how similar is it to the 598? If its really basically a 598 in disguise its a steal for $100.
Could you please make a review for the Fnatic REACT and Cooler Master MH751? A comparison between those two Headsets and the PC37X would be great. There aren't many reviews for the Fnatic REACT...
Holy hell that intro. It's rumbling on my sabbat e12 ultras 😳😳😳
Please do more reviews about gaming headphone, i like to hear from audiophile perspective because gaming headphone kinda got a lot of hate cause "gimmic" sound.
Really love to watch your review about pc37x its so detailed :)
Keep your good review
Sir, I believe you enjoy saying "shit hell". Lol
Great Video! I love this headset! Can you do a review of the Sennheiser GSP 500 please!! Does the Hel have chat mix also?
This is a great review!
What I really do appreciate about this review is that I now know why I don't want this headset. I generally don't play games where I need to hear say 'footsteps' and Music is more important to me. However, I can't go with an Open Back design because of my living circumstances. Still I want you to know that I really do appreciate your opinion because I feel like I can trust you.
That's the hidden skill of reviews, is letting you know if you don't want something
Wanna see the Beyerdynamic MMX 300 2nd Gen in comparison with this, also how the wireless Sennheiser GSP 370 stacks up against them both :D
Most underrated youtube channel ever. Keep up the good work. Btw I own both the hd58x and the Game One headsets and you’re right about everything about these two.
Which are better in your opinion? These or the 58x?
antihero210 depends on what your using them for, 58x is better for music and watching videos. The pc37x is better for gaming.
@@DARKENERGY Do you game on pc? I play on console and I'm planning to buy an amp as well (soundblaster G6)
I mostly play single player open world rpg's and SOME multiplayer shooters. Should I still get the PC37x over the 58x
antihero210 yes I’m on pc, I use both headsets with gsx1000 amp/dac although neither headset requires an amp since they’re both easy to drive for the most part.
antihero210 if you plan on playing with friends and you don’t have a mic lying around you’re better off with the pc37x since it has a mic. But if your not a super try hard and want to be more “immersed” I’d get the 58x
I still have my sennheiser pc 373D until today. Awesome cans for gaming
I noticed from watching my
clips that when your raise your voice the mic distorts really easy.
Update: I have a set inbound so if you’re interested you can review them
Please review the BEYERDYNAMIC MMX300 Gen 2!
Z put them in high regard so I’m curious to hear your thoughts
Nick Han check out the Beyerdynamic TYGR 300 r.
They’re Beyerdynamic open back gaming headphone.
Totally off topic, but I just realized that the hero image on your home page shows the left can of the HD800. For someone that hates bright headphones such as yourself (and I for the matter), this image is quite contradictory to the above statement >_>
Great review.
I know there are some sound differences between open and closed back so it's a bit of an apples to oranges comparison. But which one of these sound better for gaming (focused on imaging/directional noise) overall, the Sennheiser PC37X or Cooler Master MH751/2?
For directional audio to pinpoint noises, usually open back does that better. I haven't seen the cooler master but if it's on par with, choose which you like. Zeos said he liked the sound of CM on amazon reviews, not sure about mic. The pc37x is also $80 if you use sign up $20 bonus on drop website.
Would you say the KSC75's open design helps for gaming or due to its size it kind of cancels out the airy advantage?
No doubt the PC37x is killer for its price. But you jump from that to the HD800s. Would love to see a video of comp gaming headsets at different price brackets.
Hey Man, great review! Just wondering whether these would work running them straight off my Xbox controller?
I’d like to see a review of the Beyerdynamic TYGR 300 r.
It’s a very good gaming headphone.
Can you do a video on how to adjust your headphones for gaming!!
Pretty sure these have the 500 series drivers not the 600 could be wrong though. Cheers
500 series drivers make better gaming headphones due to wider staging. Decent sense of distance competitively is paramount in importance with imaging. I agree with most people though, 600 destroys it in music
Definitely. They don't put 600 series drivers in their gaming headsets
No, these are Game One drivers.
@@gregwx game ones use 500 series drivers too
@@user-vi3tb3bw5t No, are not the same of the GSP 500 has different impedance and dynamic range. Game One /PC37X are using HD558 drivers, but are now all overhype due drop. I had Game ones for 3 years, move to GSP 500 I prefer the form factor of the ones but dynamic range and imaging is definitely more refine on the 500.
I own the PC37x bought them when I knew nothing about audio and they definitely have been my intro to good audio products. I can vouch for their performance as I can hear extremely precise enemy movement in Fortnite, COD and a host of others. I used to think they were amazing for music until I tried a bunch of actual audiophile grade headphones but I still use these in my competitive games because the spatial awareness is ridiculous and it has a built in mic. 10/10 for $120
Waiting for the TIN comparison!
Goddam you always use some damm good music. Even if obly for a couple of seconds. Please link full versions
It's Myysk - DRAGS
Is this connector the same as the HD558/598 and the like? Also, I still prefer any headphones and a modmic, but it's good to see a decent headphone in the "gaming" range.
How is the Game Zero compare to the PC37X? I play in a pretty noisy area so I plan to buy the Game Zero. I heard that the PC37X is the same as the Game One, and the Game Zero is the closed back version of Game One. Are they pretty much the same, with just different backs?
What sub 200$ dac/amp do you recomend? I purchased the syba sonic just to be safe (only 40$) but if i were to get something better what should i buy?
Would you recommend using Spatial Sound such as Dolby Atmos or Windows Sonic with the PC37X? Or would you keep spatial sound off?
Completely anecdotal, but in BL3 the forums recommend to turn it on if dialogue from only L/R bothers you, BUT, I've found the game audio engine's "hyper-directional" nature actually helps when trying to identify where you're being shot from. It's a trade-off, basically.
The Stash Master my first setup I had was the PC37X/HD58X with sound blaster g6 using scout mode. My first attempt at any setup and I did very much enjoy it. However, with the G6 I didn’t feel as if there was good sound imaging with scout mode. Yes it had a strong sound stage and it amplified certain sounds but at times it was hard to tell how close or exactly where that sound was coming from especially with 7.1 spatial sound. My current setup is with the same headphones using a Schiit Hel and no spatial sound. I will never go back to the g6. I found myself not even using the gaming features it had or the eq presets. I tried using Atmos, Sonic, and DTS with Schiit Hel but i quickly turned them off. Just wasn’t producing a good sound stage or quality sound for me. Just my experience. Schiit Hel with PC37X/HD58X no spatial sound. Straight out of the box; No apps or Eq presets/scout mode/7.1 and it was the best experience while gaming and listening to music for me
how do you think the hd660s and the bt1990 pro compare when it comes to gaming? thats an aspect that i dont see covered a lot and that could turn out to be a game changer for me
These sound really amazing for music when you use oratory1990's EQ settings.
You can bass boost your sound if your not a big fan of the mild bass
Gaming with hd58x too here at PC
And just add another separate mic not a big deal (and can opt for better mic too)
But with PS4, you definitely can't plug in directly to DS4 lol
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What headphone you suggest for pop and metal musics...... with some focus on gaming???
Now this, or AKG7xx with modmic?, I have been using these with TAC on the ps4 for 3 years now. Veryyy Gooood.
Would you recommend these or the 58x for gaming?
does this have crosstalk issue? my cooler master MH752 and kingston hyper x alpha had this issue. its soo annoying that my friend can hear whatever im watching in the background.
Great review from, who I thought, looked like the Green Arrow 😂
Josh, are you actively monitoring your Patreon site; answering questions, responding to patrons? There are a few of us who have posted, but I cannot see any of your comments.
🤔 let me check. Usually DM is the best way to get ahold of me on there. The patreon app is really unreliable for “page posts”.
Probably my fault tho! Will hop on in a couple minutes and double check.
Ok I got these coming via FedEx today. Got for $80 on drop.com. I have a Syba Sonic dac/amp and I'd like to know if you all think the dac/amp would improve the quality even more. I know at 50 ohms they don't need the push but if they are pushed do they respond well?
Hi Josh! What pads do you have on your HD800S ?
Could I fix the pppp sound with just putting a popfilter over the mic? or does that ruin the sound somehow
Should i get a Sennheiser GSX 1000 for the PC37X or should i stick to my motherboard audio (Asus Hero IX - SupremeFX) ?
So is there something I’m missing with the mic? I got the PC 373D from Sennheiser and all my friends told me I sounded like dog $#!¥
I liked these Pc37x until I used my 58x with the modmic wireless. Much more comfortable for my head shape. But regardless the pc37x was amazing and I actually just gave them to a gaming buddy of mine to enjoy them.
could you comment on how it sounds compared to the PC37x? i think the 37's sound amazing during gaming FPS and hip hop
Anybody know if these are driven properly by an Xbox or ps5 controller? My 58x sound good in this application but don’t get quite loud enough
What about immersion only ? what headphone then ? does hd58x delivers bass ?
Do you know any wireless headphones at can do 24bit 96000Hz.? On my cloud flights I can max out at 16 bit 48000Hz..
if i use it with a hel will it be a huge difference? for both sound and mic?
I have the 58x it is OK for gaming BUT front and back is hard to differentiate ... maybe you need a DAC or AMP or or or but for me... I am not using it but a coolermaster 752
What would you recommend if I would want a more immersive experience in like an rpg game or something? Since these are more for fps.
If you mean immersive in terms of sound, then open-back headphones have a bigger soundstage than closed-back (99%), which means that they make the game feel WIDER and bigger. open-back headphones in RPG games like witcher will make the sound in the game sound much farther away compared to the sound coming from just you're left and right ears on closed-back. If you want to know more on this, id search up closed-back headphones on youtube
I wana know wich one is better for gaming between Philips shp9500 and Sennheiser pc37x ive ben battling between those two for a hot minute. :/ I need some help lol
Hi Joshua, what would you recommend for gaming performance?
PC37X + Schiit Hel
GSP 600 + GSX 1000
What you end up getting??
Using this vids comment section cause it’s recent. What are some good closed back headphones that have a (slight) V-shaped sound signature but sacrifice as little detail as possible? I think I want something like the Fostex Ebonys he recently reviewed, but I don’t want to shell out more than $400. I’d just use it probably less than 25% of the time. Just when I’m in the mood for more bass. I just kinda want a ‘fun’ headphone.
U should try to review the beyerdynamic dt770 pro 80 ohm. Some people said, dt770 pro 80 ohm is the widest soundstage on closed back headphone ever.
No it isn't the best, but it's a very very good stage. I bought another one and use it at work now. I'd be more likely to award best closed stage to Vérité C or Stellia, both of which I haven't reviewed yet however
There's a clear separation between the huge bass boost in the sub bass and the rest of the FR since there's also a sizeable dip at 200 Hz for the DT770, so the DT880 is what you want for gaming if you're going Beyer anyway
I think imaging is very helpful in gaming especially fps
HD820 probably has one of the widest stages for a closed set. But that's a $2000+ headphone.
this thing looks like an old old old real 2011 Senheiser PC360 Headset
Got the PC360 back in the day and using till today, love this thing
I just got into comp fps games and found out my old headphones sucked. So I got a pair of Steel Series Actis 7 and boyyyyy did they suck. Sent them back and got Sienhiezer GSP 500's and huge improvement. Got the Schiit Fulla too and it's good but I ordered this headset to see if it's better than the GSP 500s and just got notified Amazon just delivered (I'm at work). I'll comment here what I think in case anyone else is wondering.
let me know please haha :D i have the gsp 600 but i really don‘t like the quality...the earpads look like shit after 7 months of usage (and sennheiser can’t send me new ones since they dont have it on stock here in switzerland) while my cloud alpha did look like new and the sound without dac/amp was so bad compared to the alphas..also since a month or so the mic is ultra strange..it records all the background noises but when ill talk it doesnt record all the time..really did like my pc 350 from back than a lot more which i had for 4 year and i‘m thinking to buy the 37x or the hd58x with a modmic..
@@erosandolina4785 Hey man, have had them now several days and yes, buy these. Huge improvement in sound and locating enemies over the GSP500's, lighter and more comfortable too, especially once the headband breaks in. Love them. These plus the Fulla 3 and the new THX spatial sound app is bliss. That's the only spatial sound app I think is any good. Free trial up now and the apps only been out a few days. I tried about a half dozen and they all sounded like crap (aside from games designed for dolby atmos). The thx app is actually legit even for games like fortnite known for shit sound! I'll be buying it when the trial is over for sure. Oh you have to go to Razor.com to get it fyi.
Does the mic pickup sounds when you max out the volume on these? My Sennheiser Game One does...
What upgrade would you recommend on a ~$300 budget for 50-50 music-gaming (mic included)?
Thanks!
Dan Dănuț I would say this headset running into the Schiit Hel or Schiit Fulla 3
Still waiting for your next video elaborating on good imaging open back headsets for gaming that go above the pc37x and hd598x.
I can spend more than $400 but no more than $1100.
Right between baseline and insane is what I'm going for. Like 4-6 for the cans and 4-5 for the dac/amp.
For anybody wondering about this price range set-up, I ultimately went with the Schitt Stack Magni3+/Modi, Beherdynamic DT1990's with a Mod Mic USB.
These are nuts, I don't know any wired gaming headset wich perfoms better
Hey man are you wearing a luminox watch?
It looks a lot like mine hd598 with a mic attached on it...
You don't have Shazam?
How would you compare the Beyerdynamic Custom Game to this?
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Do yours make a creeking sound when you stretch them to put them on? My pair does and it drives me nuts.
that means you've probably had them for a bit
Hi, i know thats an old video but I was wondering if i can use this headset with a dac on ps5
Hi people, recommendation for portable Bluetooth LDAC/AptXHD DAC/amp with headset microphone input support for mobile gaming?
You should try the newer sennheiser GSP500 open back and GSP600 closed. Both are very good gaming headphones.
Totally agree. GSP500/600 easily destroy Game One/PC37x in positional audio.
Ethelin Wu which has the punchier bass
Hi, how is this headphone with regards to K7XX?
Sucks that you can't buy these on the UK market :(
Joshua, I'm a Battlefield main and want to get a major audio upgrade. Was thinking the Schiit Hel and a good headset up to ~$450 but I don't know what to get because I'm a noob trying to get into audiophilia on the gaming side of things. What should I prioritize and do you have a list of recommendations for my use case? I posted on r/HeadphoneAdvice and was recommended the AKG K712 Pro and the DT990 Premium. After watching your videos, the Modhouse Argons caught my eye. I also don't want something too heavy. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks!
You can also look at Beyerdynamic MMX 300 2nd Gen
@@zahitemremetin606 I ended up going with the AKG K712s and a JDS Labs Element II
Headset and microphone cords? So I can't use this on xbone unless there's an adapter out there
I think it comes with an adapter
for gaming PC37X or hd58x ?
Very good headset for siege.
The PC37x is the PC373D minus the kinda poor quality USB soundcard. The PC373D is a game one with a USB soundcard. So the PC37x is a Game One. So you get what ever is cheapest in your country.
The PC37x/Game One uses the 598/558 driver, with a tuning closer to the HD558. Its on the warmer and mid forward side with a focus more on soundstage over imaging. While the HD599(I’m just going too use the current versions for comparison) is bright and focused on imaging. While the HD559 is more warm and soundstage focused. The PC37x is kinda between them leaning more 559. All 3 are good but just different.
The HD599 imo is better for comp FPS, but the less than spectacular soundstage can hurt you in many games. It’s also not what I’d call balanced as it’s bright. The PC37x sacrifices some of that brightness, detail and imaging for a bit of warmth and imaging making it a more balanced sound and it works for FPS in more games.
But the killer aspect of the PC37x is it is a hd559 tunes more for gaming or a HD599 tunes more for balanced sound. But you get this at $120usd. The mic is great and it’s just a killer value.
It’s not perfect for everyone. Some people will prefer something less warm for FPS. But this imo is the perfect balance of gaming performance and still being warm and enjoyable.
From comp FPS to music performance I personally rank the Sennheiser line up this way.
HD599 > PC37X > HD559 > HD58x > HD6XX
The part where you say, you can preform in a game no matter what you use based on an understanding of how the games sound engine works is so spot on. I’ve been saying this for years.
Love your videos.
Just for gaming, Sennheiser PC37X or the Philips shp9500+v-moda mic? I am stuck between these two?
I think this one is semi open back whereas the philips is fully open back. Both have a large soundstage so for gaming you can’t go wrong with either
HyperX Cloud 2 mic sounds much better than this one. The Cloud 2 is based off of the Takstar Pro 80 headphone. It's quite good man, you should take a look.
For 60% gaming and 40% music, which would be better PC37x or 58x?
Is there a way to have this headset paired with the fulla 3 and connect it to my Xbox one and still keep chat capabilities??
It’s works with the fulla?
58x + mod mic + eq = gaming
eq for gaming is EAF.
2:30 BUT if you just want mid and no lows or highs you can EQ it... peace equalizer let´s you turn on a predifined EQ automaticly to certain output when certain application is opened: prnt.sc/qiywty
so for me, there's no point of buying this bcaus i can have a grat overall headphone and then eq if nessesary for my needs: music, movie, games, altough i don´t recoment to cut off low and high for gaming unless you want to go pro in shooters, it's very unpleasant sounding.
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Do the mh751 cooler master! Or if someone can say which are better between these and the pc37x
Edward Perez I'd say get the one you like, they're about the same price right now when you use sign up $20 bonus on drop website. I've seen that both sounds are good but haven't seen mic reviews of CM. The pc37X is also open back so that might be better for FPS games but if you're looking for sound isolation then the CM would be better.
Do you recommend taking out the foam from the 58xs?
It's a very easy mod(easy to go back as well). You should give it a shot, I did it to mine and added some dekonis and i love how they sound.
The foam doesn't do anything to the sound. It's effectively just a dust cover for the driver.
Any difference between these and game ones? If I owne the game ones already, should I even bother on getting these ??
Troy Sanchez i read that theyre the same, just different look. Could be wrong tho
could i plug this headset into my computer without an amp? Say plug it into the back of the PC?
yeah, i do just fine doing it like that
With a 600 dollar budget, and listen to mainly 70's blues rock, 90's grunge, 90's rap, and some earlier punk rock what headphones would you purchase? I'd really love a response via message or reply. Thanks !
Focal elex
TR-X00
Another vote for Focal Elex
How does this compare to philips shp9500 ?
hyperx alpha or this one?