To protect himself from possible retribution by the World Mission Society Church of God, “David Erdman” is using a fake name and his face is blurred out. This is because the WMSCOG is alleged to use law suits and family separation as ways of silencing those who openly come against them. Here is my whole playlist of videos going into DETAIL about the true history and false teachings of the World Mission Society Church of God. th-cam.com/play/PLZ3iRMLYFlHvwOzziMOk9ZIHKphdag47d.html
Wow! Though i wasnt in mother God cult this is exactly my basic story but from the other side. My husband was the one trying to get me out and i put him through so much that i feel terrible for today. Finally we left state and ive been slowly deprogramming. I am so very sorry for what you went through Dave
The WMSCOG cult has been active on my campus in the past. I've been approached 2-3 times. The first time I'd never heard of it but definitely had creepy vibes, and learning about it more I quickly found out why. Thanks for shedding light on it through this video!
Acts 17:11 says that the Bereans were fair, because they received the apostles' word with readiness of mind, but then they searched the scriptures to prove them to be true. It definitely sounds like they were healthy skeptics! I always try to hit that balance. Listening to people openly, and listening, but like you said.... Being really protective of my mind and guarding my heart, through God's word, not just my opinion
Sure Maam. Pls pray some deliverance prayers . Erica Shepherd on shiela zelinski show. Powerful prayers. Break the satanic power over your daughter in the mighty name of our Lord Jesus. Pray it over and over till she is delivered. God bless . Stay strong
Let us do a prayer for your daughter. That is wicked. This needs prayer and fasting ......consistently until your daughter is returned. Thats such a shame
Hi guys just warning everyone, they're going online now, doing bible studies on zoom. I was caught in it but fortunately the Holy Spirit led me out, helping me notice so many red flags.
Yea true! They did it to me! Omg ! I studied with them for like once a week for 3 weeks, they told me that they would tell me the name of Christ because he has already come, but at this point I started filing that something wasn’t right, so I found this videos and I felt so sad, scared, I immediately left the study bible, the girl started saying that’s my last chance to salvation, I literally blocked her. If you find this people on the street run fast!!!!!
@@laraolimpia7438 I'm in the mess too!! I just ignored their call because I gave them my number. I started sensing Red flags when they mentioned ansahong
I truly empathize with this man. I was born into a destructive cult. Eight months ago, after being inside for 26 years, my girlfriend and I escaped with new phone numbers, emails, bank accounts, etc. My mother, brother, and dearest friends are still on the inside. Since we escaped, I've spent all of my free time researching cults, emotional and spiritual abuse, personality disorders, and thought reform. This stuff is more dangerous than anyone could possibly imagine. I've watched it destroy life after life after life. Life is so good now. I've tasted freedom for the first time ever and will never let it go. Even more, it's been a joy discovering what Christianity truly is and cutting through the misinterpretation and manipulation. I'll be graduating from law school in a month and plan to spend the rest of my life fighting for adults in children in cults, domestic violence situations, and abusive relationships.
I pray that your calling is successful. I pray that, if this truly be your calling from God (of which I'm 100% certain) that it is fruitful, and powerful. Praise be to our God.
My husband left me alone for 30 seconds in the female hygiene section of a Walmart a couple years ago and I got approached by these people. They really seem to target young women
Studying the “Big 5,” especially in Jordan Peterson’s TH-cam lectures/clips helped me understand the psychology around all this when I was pursuing a career in marketing. Notice how *on average* women are easier to market to because we’re higher in “agreeableness” than most men. (I myself am low in agreeableness, but high in openness, which has me fascinated with this stuff, as it causes me to feel less feminine than I want to be...) Anyway! To “Christianize” that term: more women are easier to be nurturing and submissive than men are, and thus shy away from a debate. Narcissists and manipulators use this to gain leverage on easy prey, like young impressionable women who most likely don’t know themselves yet and just want to fit in with a group.
@@jessitabonita Women too often shy from admitting this weakness, in the context. Females are inclined to messaging, fear, control, easier than males are.
You don't have to be world traveled to know to avoid any freaks that hang out in the feminine hygiene section of any store. Ditto for the diaper section.
@@coko3124 Exactly. There are many similarities between them, chiefly their cultist environment. It would be an interesting exercise watching them try to debunk each other, when none of them are filled with the truth.
When I was 18, I almost joined a cult. I was in a relationship and the guy was a part of this strange church, but I gave it a chance. They scared me by saying they were the only ones who had a CHANCE to be saved and I believed it. Soon, we were engaged as college Freshman. My family soon warned me of dangers and I was utterly confused. I spent months struggling with my faith and the relationship became abusive. Soon, I left both him and the cult. I’m now almost 22 years old and will graduate college soon. I transferred universities to get far away from this cult. While I still struggle with fear, I know God is powerful and is working through me, I’m getting stronger by the day! To those of you who love someone in a cult, just know there is hope! Remind your loved one how you feel about them and make time for non judgement conversations. Take the time to listen and be gentle with your words. I received both loving advice and judgmental advice. The judgmental comments really slowed me down. Remember, it is more important to help someone than “be correct.”
Listen to what happened at my Son’s High School Classroom. Teacher told the class to all go the right side of the classroom. The teacher said: 1. Go to the left side if you think that we need more gun control. Some kids go to the left. 2. Go to the left side if you think that Abortion is okay. Several more kids go to the left. 3. Go to the left side of the class if you think that gay marriage is okay. All but two kids moved over to the left side. My son and one other boy. At this point listening to the story I am thinking great job for standing your ground but feeling a concern... Then the teacher asked him why did you stay on the right side of the classroom? My 18 years old son answered because the Bible says that Marriage is between a Man and a Woman. I am one Very Proud Father!!! More importantly God is proud of him!!! Ironically the teacher said that’s what I believe too.
Danny I would choose neither way I would choose Jesus marriage is a promise you make to God in being an earthly parent for him where men and women are equal!
The teacher shouldn't be giving an opinion in this type exercise which is to promote discussion between classmates and talk about values. Their job isn't to influence values but to get the students to think critically.
I am glad to hear your son doesn’t give in to peer pressure and trusts God over human society. But, I am disappointed to hear that schools are devising such methods on students. I really dislike that the political left is categorizing people and teaching what is right or wrong based on the categorization. And I likewise really dislike someone on the political right doing the same. I dunno, maybe I’m wrong to say students shouldn’t be forced to say what their beliefs are in a classroom, but currently I feel very strongly that they should not. And in an activity like that they are forcing students to state their beliefs. Because I assume the teacher didn’t give the students the option to leave and sit down without casting a vote. Those scenarios I think are too close to peer pressuring students, and some students might not know yet what to believe because they’re still learning.
I will be praying for David and his family. We nearly lost our son to Buddhism. We did not know where he was for two years. But before he cut off communication with us, we discovered he had divested himself of most of his worldly goods, was living at a monastery and was in training to become a Buddhist monk! If not for God's prayer warriors and daily dives into His Word, we would not have survived. Like David, I immersed myself in reading about Buddhism and even visited a Buddhist abbey to speak with "nuns" there. I was hoping that when my son contacted us, I would be more prepared to connect with him. Then, one day, out of the blue, we received a call from our son asking if he could come home. We don't know why he left the monastery and rejected Buddhism - we are just SO thankful to have him home! He has not fully embraced Christianity again, but God must have a plan in all this that will bring glory and honor to His name!
In Lord Jesus Christ's name (Colossians 3:17), So glad he's out of that false faith but praying he gets to a relationship with Christ so he doesn't get caught up in another false faith. ❣️🙏🙏✝️🕯️🦋
Bell he wasn't in a false faith he was let go also he wasn't maltreated nor forced to join or try to convince him to stay cause his original religion is supposedly bad
Leah Remini said a similar idea as she drove past Scientology in Clearwater Florida. She said, I was driving past these people, freely walking around outside, and I wanted to take them in my car and help them escape, but they had been trained to mentally keep themselves enslaved, so I couldn't even help them.
The best slave is a slave that doesn’t know he’s a slave. True knowledge is what people are afraid of. It’s all there, just waiting for us to want to see it for what it really is. So many are deceived, even the very elect.
‘It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled’. Unless of course, they are willing to admit to themselves that they have been fooled, in which case, they learn and stand prepared for whoever else might try to fool them in the future. Life is hard. We need to be innocent as doves, and not forget to also be wise as snakes. So that the snake doesn't bite us and poison us.
@A Lucky Man! I agree. A person chooses to go down the wrong path and I think as I continue the heart becomes harder and harder to the point that it makes it more more difficult to realise the delusion that they are living.
@@georgelegault3985 Sometimes not even critical thinking helps. These cults play on emotional and psychological wounds and past traumas; things most people aren’t fully aware that they have regardless of how educated they are. It’s possible to be smart and logical and still fall prey because the programming goes deeper than mere mind tricks. It reaches the heart.
I had someone approach me from this cult about a month ago. The same woman approached my daughter a week earlier. Praise God that my daughter did not get sucked in to this. I will pray for this man's family.
I was also approached locally here in Apple Valley, California, in a Dollar Tree of all places. The person invested over an hour trying to convince me to see “Mother God” in scriptures that she repeatedly cycled through.
I watched to 1:03 but a cult how? Did they kill someone? You can not call a religious group a cult just because you don't like how they interpret the Bible!
@@user-lv4ov5rp6d I believe they are referring to the BITE model. That is what is popularly believed to be consistent with a cult. People don’t have to kill someone to be a cult. B=Behavior control I =Information control T=Thought control E=Emotional control There are numerous TH-cam videos regarding the bite model. They are very interesting, you should look into them.
@@weir_family But there is a difference between a sect and a cult. For example, Jehovah’s Witnesses and Mormons are not a cult only a sect. While Scientology Church is a cult, they even kill people who don't want to be a member anymore. I don't think you should use the word cult lightly.
I would love to hear your conversion story of leaving the Mormon church. I have a neighbor who is Mormon and she talks as though we all believe the same thing.
@@lizj3815 I am a born again Christian! God has delivered me from so many false spirits and teachings. I used to hear voices in my head all the time then after being delivered I never hear anything I just feel God's peace and serenity and occasionally He brings scriptures to my mind when I am searching for an answer but he gave me a brain and heart to figure out the rest and the Body of Christ to support and strengthen and edify me. Praise God! Hallelujah!
I visited here and completed their Bible study with my sister and goodness! If I wasn't so well versed in the Bible and had a strong family, I could see myself falling for this place. They're very sneaky and super sweet. The members genuinely believe what they are doing. I saw through all of it still.
@@LilVic_ yes, the triune God, who we dont have churches that claim to know the end times, that baptise under the name Father, son, and holy spirit, and dont use phrases like "you might be right but i dont care" when confronted on their theology
Wasn’t Jesus’ FIRST warning this: “many will come in My name”? I had not heard of this manifestation, but it is beyond horrible. Thank you Mike and Mr X. May God return your daughter, and may you both find Him.
He meant people who are literally IN his name. Do you even know what it means to be IN the name of jesus christ. That doesnt mean coming on his behalf, it doesnt mean praying and saying "in jesus name", being IN his name literally means you are IN the word, IN the over soul that IS Christ Jesus. To be IN the name of jesus means you are In him, not just him in you, theres a difference between the two.. christ is in all, but not all are in christ. Just like you should do a jewish study on what son of man means, and what man means. You folks don't even know what it means to be in his name.. to know what that means takes an extensive study on jewish culture and language, and what exactly they believed during the time of christ.
@@JewessChrstnMystic '... it's often been so confusing. Righteous in His name pastors have been the bomb! (( why more don't know that santa claus is the derivative from the Dutch accent of St Nicholas (( I just popped in here, don't bug me.... haven't felt too good
@@jeffreyfeinstein5525 your comment makes no sense to me. And I'm not the one that bothered you, YOU replied to comment I made that had nothing to do with you. Do not reply to a comment of mine and then tell me not to bug you.. that's not how social interaction works man. If you dont want a reply then dont reply to my comments. Santa has nothing to do with being in the name of jesus. Nice try though, you completely veered away from the subject at hand.
@@JewessChrstnMystic 'Yes Ma'm. I found your initial comment to be an insightful teaching. The topic of santa Claus comes up here and there lately, on true Ministry and secular topics. I get that santa is not the topic. Just was sayin the original pronunciation of St Nicholas was 'straightened out' by american and european literates. And was just hoping to not receive, for whatever reason, a non- damaging response. But no, seems I got a surprise. There have been like an endless abyss of manipulations in the name of the Lord Jesus. Wouldn't pretend to 'write' back with scriptural verses. Often, believing is even heavier than learning. ...and if I'd have found the young lady, I'd have certainly let her parents or an official authority seek her and a prayer for her and her family. Ya know, I came across this short self narrative vid recently. If I can try to recall. "The Atlantic" channel. "A 97 year-old man faces his own death" ' What is the meaning of life's (something like that). Though not a intrusively long, it was intense. Read through the comments for my own reasons. Barely seemed a believer there. Again, the old man was a 'heavy cat'. I have faith that the young lady in this misguidance has a strong support group here and a good chance to find her way back to our Father'. And, I'll keep myself shut
Any group that wants to isolate you from even listening to others and only slowly presents their own central doctrines loves darkness and hates that light can expose them for what they are. This is one of the hallmarks of every cult.
@@davegibbs6423 Never said he was, and I don't think either of the things I said fit Him. Groups that suck you in by hiding their central and divisive doctrine as well as cutting you off from any outside voices would be the likes of Mormons, JW, and WMSCOG. They all pervert the truth and often try to conceal much of that until they have you only trusting them and not listening to anyone else, even the Bible itself.
True!!! wmscog makes sure you dont speak to your friends , family if they are not in the church. One of the pastor's wife directly said to me " one day you have to live alone sister , please dont be afraid to live in the dark " i was like what ???? 😂 She surely wanted me to leave my family and live alone.
My daughter attends this church.....and so is my niece. All I can do is pray for them. It was so so hard in the beginning when they first joined. Now all we do is pray for them, God is bigger than and non Christian organization. I just leave it in God's hands. Prayer moves the hand of God.☝🏼
Just make sure they are happy. Ask them over and over again . If they are happy and that’s the place they want to be then so be it but I’m in trauma therapy because of this organization. I wish I had a more attentive family so that I would not have stayed as long as I did and experienced verbal abuse and loss of identity
They came to my door - I'm happy to discuss God with anyone. They gave me their game plan and I said it was very interesting. Not interested in hearing more but interesting. Next time they (not the same people) came back I said "oh yes, God told me you'd be coming by." Scared the hell out of them. One said "How do you know it was God and not Satan?" I said "Because He told me YOU are Satan."
@@cortexkiller1122 Everyone has spoken to God and everyone has heard from God. I'm by no means exceptional. I mean, not to tell me that they were coming to the door, that was just to shoo them off my doorstep and give them something they couldn't argue.
So my ex and I visited one of these churches. They kept us in a room and went over the Bible. I asked to use the restroom, the woman came with me. When I came out she was standing dead in front of me. I had texted my ex and told him we need to leave. So he was already in the hall waiting for me.... I told him we are leaving now, they followed us out to the front door and as soon as we got in the car I told him none of what they are saying is full truth. I told him it is a cult!!! Gut feeling then I started googling. Saved by discernment and by God that lives in me!!! Praying for this man and his family!!!
I've had this happen to me too. In college I was reunited with my best friend from elementary, we had lost contact in middle school. So meeting her again was so amazing and then she asked me if I wanted to have a bible study. I of course was so excited because she knew I was Christian, in fact she was one of the first people I told about me wanting to get baptized. So I actually thought, I actually thought when we met up for the "bible study" she started to bring up all these blasphemous things. I couldn't believe what was happening and I just broke down. I was so angry and shocked, not at her but at the fact that this cult twists the word of God so horribly. I do think I scared her though because I just started crying and trying to explain to her that that wasn't it. It was so terrible, I wish I had been more prepared in my walk with God. I had to ask my parents to pick me up from school and l couldn't even explain to them what was happening because I was crying non-stop, its just so crazy.
I’m in the Atlanta area. My wife and I were part of a controlling church for 15+ years. We were in college and we were hooked. The pastor told us that she was our spiritual mother and that God picked us out to be her children since she lost her biological ones. She picked 12 of us (6 similar aged couples) and basically made us into her “disciples”. We called her mom and we felt very special. I wouldn’t call the church a cult but looking back, there were a lot of “cult” like characteristics. We were told that no other church was like us. We were the only true disciples and other churches were just playing religion, etc. The pastor used Watchman Née’s book Spiritual Authority to tell us that we need to submit and not question her. After all, she’s not only our spiritual authority, she was also our mom. As we got older, we started questioning things but by then we were so involved with the church and basically it became our entire life. We finally left about 4 years ago but a lot of our friends are still there and . We spent most of our adult lives there. It’ll be too long to talk about everything that happened there but thank God we were able to break away. I believe the pastor wanted to create a community that she could control and stay safe. She loved having people flock to her and calling her mom and compete for her attention and praise. We’re still in the process of healing and re-learning things. I’m praying for others that God will wake them up.
Thank God you got out! I grew up in a cultish group but it was a lot of family and a mix of NAR and house church and Semitic concepts . Glad I am out 🙏
Very similar story here. Those watchmen nee books were used on us too. It's great you got out with your wife. I'm currently going through a divorce after 21 years of marriage and 4 kids under 19. My 18 and 16 yr olds have ended their relationship with me too. God is good. He's faithful and hasn't left me stranded. It's been a great test of faith to walk through this, and I'm still believing our marriage can be healed, because God gives good gifts.
Well first off , its unbiblical for a Women to pastor.. im sorry I know that bothers a lot of people. Glad you are okay. I also was part of a religious cult.
@@toddcote4904 I am so sorry to hear that. I truly believe that with God, nothing is wasted and somehow He will use our experiences for good. I am praying for you and your family.
I had these people come to my door once, and I spoke with them for a few moments because I wondered if they were JW or other. When they started talking about Mother God, I quickly shared the true gospel and said thanks, I’ll never change my mind. Goodbye.
I am going to inform my children about the existence of World Mission Society Church of God so that they.don’t fall victims. Praying for this father and his family.
This is so sad. There was a man that would frequent the dog park for years daily where I took my dog. He enjoyed engaging with people about spiritual things and knew I was Christian. I’m talking maybe 5-6 years of biblical lighthearted sharing. Then suddenly when no one was there he got up in my face and made himself large and he was already a very large almost 60 something athletic man. I enjoyed our dialogues all those years and considered him a friend. He never scared me. But that day his eyes got scary and he demanded I declare God was Mother. Nope! I stood him down and stood my ground. He backed away and cackled and tried to call me friend. I told him no one who uses fear to intimidate me to make a false confession would be called friend. I never went back. Found a new dog park. That was a long game. Maybe he was somehow connected to this cult. Yikes. He knew I had just left an abusive marriage situation and was in a difficult time. Maybe he was testing to see if I would fold under pressure 🤷♀️
Good for you to stay strong in the face of an attack. I am not being extreme, verbal and emotional and spiritual abuse is very real, and I believe any abuse in those realms is an attack. I am glad to hear your story. Stay strong, ⚓
LETS ALL PRAY FOR HIS DAUGHTER. WHY DO I HEAR TOO MANY WEAK CRY OUTS, OR JUST WEAK COMMENTS , LETS GET THAT DEMON OUT, IN JESUS NAME...!!! DEVIL LOVE THESE KINDS OF WEAKNESSES...PLEASE PPL, MAN WAS NOT HERE TO HEAR " GOD BE WITH YOU" WE ARE MORE THAN CONQUERORS. OR NOT.Tthis is not a regular talk show. Or is it...
I genuinely believe that the initial way people get drawn into these cults is due to a limited or lack of bible knowledge and a dependence on others to 'teach' it to them. It can never be stressed enough, how important it is to read the bible on your own. It is a spiritual book, it is the Holy Spirit that ministers to you when you read it. It is so important to cultivate this with yourself first before fellowshipping with people and relying on others to tell you what the bible says. How else are you going to be able to test the spirits?
We need the word of God and to be baptized with the Holy Spirit to win the battle with the devil. Let us pray for our children because they are easy targets for the devil. God have mercy on all of us, may He protect our souls from being captured by the devil.
This is precisely what happens. Growing up in Mormonism your never taught to study the Bible - just to locate your prooftexts. In 43 years as a Mormon I never heard a sermon preached where even an attempt was made at exegesis. I never even knew what it meant until 3 years after leaving. They just quote a passage, give their own interpretation as the obvious truth, and move on to the next proof text. I never so much as heard any acknowledgment of another possible interpretation. Nothing to think about - no alternative to consider. No need to read the previous verse, or the one after. Context doesn’t matter either. Just gobble up this false gospel, false scripture, don’t question, follow the “prophet”.... etc.... etc....
@@MrDrocballer There's nothing occultic about Christianity.....those are traditions at best 🙄 Most religions have traditions....every religion so to call Christianity a cult, you'll also need to call every other religion a cult as well.
"If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters--yes, even their own life--such a person cannot be my disciple.” Luke 14:26
@@jessicalindsey7393 read your bible, Jesus came to tear "families" apart, find out who is teaching their kids the word, and who isn't. The only "family" that matters in the end, is the Father and the Son. Some people are not Jesus, they cannot envelop themselves in the lion's den and trust they will come out victorious, so they protect themselves by shunning, aka abstaining from the activity of interacting with that other person. That is not a JW specific practice. Satan has no power where God and the individual do not allow it.
Brother .. I was myself influenced by the same cult once upon a time in my life which lasted for about 7 - 8 months and had the same zeal as you say your daughter has.. but God miraculous got me out of all this !! Praying for her ..
I also think that maybe we should be doing something too. Praying is important but there comes a point where we also need to be doing something too, I feel. That we need to put in the work too to get things done. For example, we should tell our friends and families about this cult and get the word out at the very least.
@@narnia1233 Also, certain people need to be punched in the face. Maybe we all need to take our cue from Saint Nicholas here. You get punched in the face enough times, the money might seem less important to you. Just sayin'...
@@amybee40 Sorry I don’t fully understand what you mean, but I don’t support violence. Although it does make me upset too that people are being deceived. I definitely wouldn’t mind a follow up study and discussion on what a person should do in such a scenario. And maybe what others can/should do to get the truth out there. But, maybe it does begin small within our own communities, friends and family.
I think the most difficult thing about leaving this group is the Love Bombing. I've been in the WMSCOG for 4 months, I left after seeing your videos Mike, God bless you for that. But the difficult part I'm still dealing with is the heartbreak. I honestly wish it wasn't a cult because of the love bombing, they make you feel like family, the sense of community is very strong with this group and you just become addicted to the love. I'm freshly out but struggling because the Deacon and his wife are just such nice people, even after I left I feel heartbroken for me and for them still. I know time will heal all wounds but I'm scared I might relapse. I've made myself a ritual of "everytime I think about joining again, just remind myself that it's a cult" So far it's working.
When I look upon nice false teachers I always remember enemy of God and pur souls. This help me keep of false feelings. If we would see spirits we would be shocked to see real picture of the world, nice and bad people.
Be strong and courageous, remember the enemy of our soul masquerade himself. 2 Corinthians 11:14 "And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light." Whatever you do, let the word of God (scripture) be your guide. May Christ presence overwhelm you.
@@jummyjohn Well it's been 2-3 months since then. I've deprogrammed a lot since then, so I'm doing better. My shrink actually told me something similar once I left the cult. "The Devil reads the gospel".
@@Alexandar358 Glory be to God. Please let Christ be the Lord and Savior of your soul. Ask our Heavenly Father for the baptism of the Holy Spirit so your being is filled with His presence. I will keep you in prayers. May the peace of God that passes all understanding rest mightily on you. Shalom.
The word cult means a group of people gathering with the same beliefs. Everything in society can be a cult technically. I’m sorry you studied the Bible & seen prophecies & later allowed someone to lead you a stray. We love all our brothers & sisters. I’ll pray for you ❤️ God bless you
They came up to me twice on the street here in Taiwan, 1 time with 2 person that were very unequipped, another time with 3 person that were more equipped, and "debating" with them on the street was very exhausted. And their "church" was less than 5min walk from my house, I guess I will bump up to them again soon.
Yes, you probably will bump up into them again, and again, and again, until they are offended by you and your firm stance in Jesus. Endure to the end -- having done all, stand!
@@vocalpelican The first time I met that two people, they don't really know anything about theology, I think they just memorized some points that their "pastor" gave them, and just got send out as missionary. They came up and told me they are doing a survey about people believing in heaven and hell, ask me if I'm interested. Then they started to sell their idea that you need to keep the passover to go to heaven. And they literally show me a poster that they prepared that has Luke 22:19 in big bold red font, saying that is their biblical proof. And I literally just tell them can you read that verse again? Jesus said :「do this」for what? They BOTH replied at the same time : 「in remembrance of Me」LOL!! I said: 「Yeah~ in remembrance of Me! Not to get saved!」Then they said to me they are new believers so they are not so familiar with the Bible, then ask me if they could have my number because they have better "teachers" in their church that could answer my questions. I said to them if you want my number just so that you could have your people to educate me? Forget it, because my church is teaching biblical sound doctrines verse by verse, and you guys don't even know what you're preaching. Then they walked away. And the second time they were more "prepared", and also more "aggressive", they almost get angry by the questions that I asked them. 1 of the guy literally raise his voice saying: "You don't even want to believe!! It's meaningless for you to ask those questions!!" And I was like, what?! You guys came up to me, wasting my time with your bad theology, what is that attitude for? LOL!! I just asked them how the thief on the cross get saved? By faith? or by keeping the passover? They kinda got triggered by that.🤦🏻♂️
Pastor mike thank you for everything you do! All your videos and podcasts are edifying. Thank you to "David" as well for speaking out against a cult! That can be incredibly difficult to do even with blurred faces. Thank you to both of you!
They came to my door once, I invited them in. It got really awkward. They said “are you sealed with the Spirit of God?” I asked if they meant the Seal of the Spirit. They said no. And it got way crazier from there. At some point they told me they didn’t want to tell me of the Woman in Asia who they saw as the Messiah, because they didn’t want me to blaspheme her name. Or something like that, it’s been a long time. We both awkwardly laughed. They seemed to have this weird, WAY out of context, train they took scripturally from Revelation and it was definitely all out of context. Eventually ending with observing the law, and making fun of the cross on my wall. I think when I said I didn’t worship the cross on my wall, they said yeah well it’s an idol. Needless to say, I’m pretty sure they left feeling like I had made some really good points. I think I showed them how they weren’t following the OT systems of Law. And the usual awkwardness persisted. They are ABSOLUTELY confused, and you can tell they camouflage that confusion with a false confidence.
As an apostate from "true Christianity," I often hope missionaries visit me, but sadly it has not yet come to fruition. I generally don't want non-violent theists to leave their faiths, but it is quite entertaining to make them uncomfortable with internal critique of their own religions.
@@dallasswoveland4466 Today I listened to Gary Habermas discuss the dating and skeptical criticism of New Testament early Creeds. He quoted skeptics such as Bart Ehrman. It seems that even skeptics struggle with an explanation for the Resurrection. One of the theories is hallucinations. Yeah... it would be like an atheists best theory pointing towards aliens instead of God.
This guy is extremely likable and, Lord willing, will be a huge asset to the Faith once God opens his eyes to His truth. I’m praying for God to change and mend his heart. He was a really courageous soul for being willing to share his story and also be raw about where he is now in his faith.
About one of your later comments in the video: after a lifetime of negative church "family" experiences, I am having a hard time trusting any church and am not currently involved in a church fellowship because of that. However, the more I watch you, the more I trust you as an honest, fair, and godly man of integrity, the best compliment I could ever imagine giving. Thank you for all you do for so many of us!
@@harley6222 great question, there's 2 ways to quit a cult, one is thinking critically and making a choice based on evidence shown, the other is unfortunately how I came to leave which is called preconditioning, before joining the cult I was predisposed to cultic behaviors (this man David's daughter was too based on what he's saying in the video) so I left out of fear, pressure, anxiety and not from being in my right mind. Take it from me, you don't want it to happen the way it happened for me, it's like leaving 2 cults at the same time. There's a million better ways to leave a cult!
Ok I rethought my last response lol I'm at peace with how I got out of the cult, it's ok that other people were pressuring me and didn't necessarily give me the "right" reason to leave, the point is I got out! Surviving, thriving, all in one piece, living my life I'm thankful to have back, and The most important thing honestly, if I had not have joined that cult I would not have read the Bible and I would not know Jesus for who He really is and know Him personally, it's worth going thru the whole ordeal a hundred times over if it means getting to see the glory that was revealed from it, I really really mean that, I have something now that can never be taken away
@@dianabrown2258 im so glad you found Jesus :) that reminds me of the verse that All things work together for good for those that love the Lord :) thanks for sharing your testimony
The mind is a battle ground for the soul. I glad that you getting the information out about these evil cults and pointing people to Biblical Christianity. Keep it up in Christ Jesus name. GodBless Amen
Please pray for my sister's deliverance , she was ensnared by this church and has become a devout follower. It's put a major strain my family's relationship with her.
Narcissistic abuse and cults work very, very similarly. In large part, cults form around a highly narcissistic personality, such as a person with narcissistic personality disorder or antisocial personality disorder.
I had two guys come up to me talking about mother God etc and they wanted to do a Bible study at my home and I said no thank you I know Jesus saved me. 🙏
Whew, saved yourself from worshiping the pagan sun god Tammuz (nimrod incarnate). Tammuz is the son of Ishtar/isis (lady of 10,000 names), the queen of heaven (statue of Liberty) and king Nimrod (molech/baal). Tammuz was killed by a wild boar when he was 40. His death is marked by Ash Wednesday when a “t” is marked on the forehead. Ishtar instituted 40 days of weeping. Ham is eaten on Easter Sunday and bread is baked to the queen of heaven and Everyone worshiped the sun. Ishtar is the goddess of fertility and war. Rabbits and chicken eggs.....o won’t even get into the pagan “easter egg hunts” Everything I speak is back in truth. The Bible confirms it. We’ve been so deceived.
2 Thessalonians 2:9-12 9 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie, 10 and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12 and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.
This is heartbreaking and as a single parent I have an awareness now of what I am up against in this world.. (not that i was unaware) ... groups like this prey on the vulnerable .. praying that the Lord continues to draw this father near to Him..
Single Mom here too... It's tough, especially when my oldest has been living just with Dad for almost 2 years... I have to very deliberately not freak out. I can so easily panic and forget that God loves him, God wants him to love Him again, and I just have to trust Him. Simple words, but a hard road to walk in my heart. 😣 Stay tough, Mama. ⚓
This is just a beautiful example of the Holy Spirit working through Mike. Letting this man’s story be told about how his daughter was spiritually abused, but also ministering to him so that he keeps seeking after God. Love this work you’re doing, Mike. So beautiful. 💜
@@SquishyyyBeaner I met people from this cult before and some of them are very persuasive. They literally walk through malls looking for well dressed younger people to convert. If a person is old, or looks poor or homeless they avoid them. Tells you what their true motivation is for converting people to their ideology.
Please pray for my sister. She’s started going to this church 4 years ago. She was approached at her university. My mom and I have tried to speak to her but she won’t listen. I even showed her one of pastor Mike’s videos and she said that everything he said was wrong and that he was blaspheming and she said that she won’t watch anymore of his videos. I have been praying for her and I know that God is bigger but if you guys would pray for her as well I would really appreciate it.
When ppl are apart of a culture that's the worse thing u can do the best way is to support her listen allow her to feel freedom of speech and openess or she will draw in with the cult more and go into extreme isolation and you will never reach her
I was studying at school and had a 45 minute conversation with one of there missionaries and I didn’t even know until later. I thank God that he kept pulling obscure Bible verses out of the back of my mind that I would have never remembered without his help to combat the man with!
This was an amazing interview, this man started to do research, to save his daughter from a cult, and ends up doubting his own beliefs. This is a very powerful interview.
Pretty sure the doubt was there previous. Pretty sure her cult following is a symptom. Wondering if grades meant more than her understanding of the only book that matters in the end?
I just attended a service and was not aware that this "church of God" was like this. A friend brought me, and she's genuine in her involvement. They were based in a house, since they're in the process of looking for a building. I was immediately approached by a "sister" (not a nun) who began to explain that the true Christians are supposed to honor the sabbath on Saturday and that only them and 1 other denomination follow this. I was then told that all other denominations are "of the enemy. Then we went downstairs to the basement for the services and I was given a head covering (a veil) and the service began. The men and women were separated. There was an Asian man on the screen preaching in Korean at the same time as the English service played, I assumed translating since the leaders were asian but spoke English perfectly. Then they started singing from a book called "new songs" (I think) and a few times I saw a name or a word I didn't recognize that started with an A that they were clearly worshiping by the surrounding text. (I learned through TH-cam videos after that this is the name of mother God.) Then they all welcomed me as a new sister to the congregation and everyone turned around and started doing a welcoming "dance" with their hands while they repeated that they loved me. It was all kind of scary. The men were not friendly with me and rarely made eye contact while the women appeared to love bomb me. I mean no disrespect to my friend. I love her but I had to honestly admit that I would continue to look for a church that "felt right" before committing to anything. 😮
This is the same thing that I experienced. I didn't know they church was like this either... I did not like it, then put on the spot with the welcome..."We love you. We love you 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻all eyes on me 👀
Ex member of the WMSCOG here! When I left, I had doubts. I actually came back after a few month hiatus. But I just realized no. This is wrong. 4 years wasted. Almost dropped college too. Since I left then all I had was hatred and ptsd. Then ended with loneliness, isolation and su!c!dal thoughts. Now I'm just empty inside. It has been over a year by now. Greetings from the Philippines. Make more of these please. Mike's and GreatLighStudios' vids enlightened me to leave. I'm not coming back. I also am not going to join any church or religious group anymore.
Don't let this discourage you from seeking the Truth. Only Jesus Christ can heal and save you friend. He is real and he did die for your sins. I encourage you to research for yourself and believe in him.
I also was in a cult like this, they called themselves the end-time church. This is in my country, Suriname. My friend invited me. They could tell me about my past very well and they could read your mind which made me think they were true prophets. I did notice some strange things they did or said where I thought: "this is not from Christ". But they always said that when you doubt the prophet of Christ you will be punished by God, so I didn't question them about the strange things I noticed. I invited my mom, brother and a friend also. And my friend who invited me also invited his parents and siblings. My mom and brother only went once,but my friends parents went almost every service. At the beginning everything seemed good, because they could state everything from the bible, make it seem like they did miracles and prophecy very well. But later on they started putting their door on lock, saying that if someone wants to enter that person has to be screened first otherwise that person would bring evil spirits inside the church. They did say that they were the only church where God is, the only one going to heaven, so we had to bring everyone to this church to be saved. But everyone we bring has to be screened first and cleansed from evil spirits. They made you believe that anyone not from that church has evil spirits. I remember one day I would feel a horrible pain like something was painfully squeezing my heart and I wasn't the only one who felt it that day. The prophets felt it also and one prophet said that God was very angry at us, because we weren't connected with Him. They would use fear and always say that God is angry with you, so you had to follow exactly what the prophets told you, otherwise God will punish you. I now believe that it actually really was an evil spirit that squeezed our hearts and not God being angry with us. God will never hurt anyone, even if you disobey Him. God is love and He loves. It is not true that God hurts people. We should get a real relationship with Jesus and we will see how much God truly loves us. . I used to get a ride from a family to church, but one day they must have left early, because I waited for them half a day but I never saw them. Later on that day I received a message from them saying they were already in church. I cried to God asking Him why He made me miss that day in church, because I believed that God was only in that church, so if I didn't go that day, then I missed being with God that day. And I thought that I did something wrong, that's why God didn't want to see me that day and that's why He made miss the ride to church that day. I noticed that the friend who first invited me wasn't at a church a few days, so I sent him a message, telling him what happened and that I was sad I missed church that day. He told me to come to his house because he wants to tell me personally why he didn't attend the last days. So I went and he told me every behind the scenes things the "prophets" of that church did to make it seem like the Holy Spirit is talking to them, while they were just mind-reading and guessing and so many other things. And as he told me I started realizing that I did see the red flags,but I ignored them, because I didn't want to doubt the so called "prophets of God" and bring judgement upon myself. And if you tell them that you don't want to go to that church anymore they will tell you that you will go straight to hell and demons will come and make you sick and make you lose your mind. That's what they did to my friend and he got really sick and did almost die, but his parents prayed by his bed every day and night. That's why he didn't attend the church those last days. He was lying in bed, very very ill because they cursed him that this will happen. So I immediately blocked everyone of that church from my social media and whatsapp and I never went to that church again. I disappeared silently you could say. I didn't want to give them a chance to curse me also. When I came home from my friend after he told me about them I told my mom about it and she thanked God, because she said that she already saw the red flags that day she attended that church with me and when she attended her own church conference she saw the parents of my friend who invited me and she talked to them about the church where I and their son were going and they told her immediately that it was a cult, but they went undercover, acting like they believed them just to take their son out of that church. And my mom said to them that they should let their son help me get of that church also, because she doesn't know how to get me out and maybe I will listen to their son. And they all prayed for us for God to guide us. So I realized that God didn't hate me, but He loves me and that's why He made me miss the ride to church that day. And it's the prayer of our parents that got us out. And to this day I am more a believer in Christ than ever. I know the true Holy Spirit guides me. I opened the bible that day and this is what I read: For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Matthew 24:24. I knew that was the Holy Spirit telling me that I belonged to the very elect and that Jesus loves me and that I got deceived by those false prophets, but God saved me. So to this father and every other parent who lost their kid to a cult I would say: keep praying for your kids and trust in Jesus Christ. Keep praying, don't give up. Jesus Christ will get them out of that church. He loves all of us. He saves all of us. All praise to the most High living God! Hallelujah, Amen!
Looking at these comments, I am amazed at how many people have come into contact with this cult. Blessings to those who got out before it was too late and may the real God, our Lord and Savior save those who have been deceived
2 Thessalonians 2:9-12 9 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie, 10 and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12 and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness. So what’s the strong delusion? It’s more subtle than you think.
When the guy said "that's when we got scared.." I thought to myself, don't get scared.. get on your knees instead (and pray daily for your lost child).
@@BlessedBeJESUSCHRIST I know you might think that I am being self-righteous based on how my sentence might sound to you, but I am not trying to be self-righteous. I would fear, that would be my knee-jerk reaction, it is in every situation, but I suppress that fear because I end up making things worse, doing what my flesh says to do, even though it looks right in my own eyes. I suppress the fear reaction because I cling to the words God says multiple times throughout scripture of do not fear.. and I remember hearing another father's testimony very similar to this guy with his daughter, a guy in my church. And he said he obeyed God at his word and chose not to fear and just keep praying for his daughter and after a year or 2 she turned around, because when he would try to talk to his daughter it made her wall up and not listen even more. He was getting the opposite results trying to get to his daughter on his own. So long story short.. I said that because I am wanting to live by faith to not fear.
As a parent of a teenager, I'm always praying about my concerns for influences in my son's life. I can't imagine what I'd do to someone who corrupted my child like this. I pray I'm not confronted with this because I don't know that I'd have the restraint I'm seeing from other parents.
As someone who was once a teen (lol) and stayed strong in the faith despite those fragile years, I’d say the best thing they can learn at that age is apologetics and exposure to other worldviews through the lens of Christ. If your son is already learning that, he’s probably going to do just fine!
I had a similar situation... I was part of a cult and my mom and my sister basically made some comments the I kept thinking about. And finally I realized what I was studying was scary bad. I prayed a lot for truth and I started listening to mike and vocab Malone about stuff. Praise God I got out. But now i educate people about what I’ve learned because I’m very blessed that I got out. Thanks Mike!
I would say never place your faith in man though, including Mike. And really study the Bible yourself too. But yes, so glad you got out of a cult. We’re all flawed so we have to pray and talk to God.
I’ve also had a similar situation. The biggest part of it is making you believe they’re the only ones that have it right. I was convinced all other denominations were wrong about Jesus and salvation
Which cult if i may ask? I was raised in the two by twos, started by William Irvine and Edward cooney, which is a less extreme cult than the jw's but more secretive than the jw's because the two by twos have no printed literature and no visible online presence.
I've noticed every single cult has said virtually the same thing. Works based salvation, strict sabbath, conspiracy theories, isolation. But the doctrine is literally identical just remixed and called under different names.
I had a lengthy conversation with one yesterday. The man was in this "church" for 9 years and unwilling to even consider that he was wrong. Calling his beliefs wrong, heretical, or a cult reinforces, in their mind, what Jesus said about being persecuted when you follow Him. The entire conversation was really sad, unsettling and seemingly hopeless for opening his eyes to the truth. I believe the only way for the wool over their eyes to be removed is through fervent prayer.
Yeah thats the same with my girlfriend who unfortunately got manipulated by this cult. ALl you can do is just be patient and try to plant any seeds of truth when you talk to these people. They completely cut off any other thoughts that are different from the group. completely possessed by the churches ideology.
These videos help bring awareness. So many are naive that these cults even exist today. They think that these cults were a 70s or 80s thing. Keep up the videos to keep bringing awareness, it could save many lives!
Mike, I am from Mumbai, I was also struggling with my faith and what to believe and what not to believe. There are so many people that say different doctrines. All I understood is I wanted to follow the bible. One day ony way home I met two women who asked me if I was a Christian, I agreed but I don't belong to any particular church. They asked me about these same things and if they could come visit me for bible studies. I welcomed them over and during the study they talked about the earthly family and there is the same heavenly mirror copy in heaven. I found that weird. I told them I never heard about such things. I do read the bible and told them the things I understand. After the session they told me can I come again tomorro , so I welcomed them. They told me that they were from the church of God, which I had never heard of. It so happened that they have not turned up since that day. I do not make an attempt to reach out these people. I keep searching for truth and came across this testimony of yours. I am so glad I did. I feel Yeshua is always guiding me in some way or the other to search for truth. Thank you through Yeshua for leading me to this.🙏🙏🙏 Praise to Yeshua
Mike, I absolutely loved to witness how you gently and pastorally ministered to this wounded dad and honest seeker. That unanounced extramile was an inspired glory lap.
Mike Winger is one of the humblest kindest patient and yet the most knowledgeable Christians Ive ever witnessed. Never once have I heard him say anything out of pride, frustration or ambition. He’s a real inspiration me.
One lady gently gave me a pamphlet and invited me to check her church out. I told her I am a Christian and we both started discussing. She seemed very hardcore religious which I didn't mind. I sort of like apologetics. I told her the world is longing for Jesus's return right now. She mentioned that Jesus came back in 1947. Was she for real? That's when I realized she belongs to a cult. I googled and was shocked to see her messiah was a Korean man who died. The irony. I am Korean and I thought it was hilarious (and sad) that so many Koreans can claim to be the 2nd coming of Christ. I remember in the 90's Rev Moon (Unification Church) claimed the same thing.
Wow. This just totally brought me to tears and I am praying for this sweet father, his family, and his daughter. I sense that his heart is seeking Truth & God is writing this story to bring glory and beauty from ashes. Such a gut-wrenching thing, but I see God's hand in this! Thank you Mike. God is amazing!
:( I hate this manipulative crap. Young people with no understanding being taken advantage of by psychopaths. There are so many snares in life, woe unto them that put them into the world. That's one reason why I believe in God, there has to be some ultimate justice for this kind of stuff.
I strongly think that families should be reading the Bible together. It should be part of family life, like having dinner together. At least when the child is young. But maybe also as adults. If families put as much effort into studying the Bible as they did helping with homework for school, etc. then kids would really know it well. And I don’t mean reading the Bible and memorizing verses. But, actually discussing openly what a passage meant and what the time period and cultural significance and what archeological evidence there is for the Bible, how science supports the Bible, etc. If parents taught their kids every day about these topics in depth in an open discussion and as a family they all learn together then they wouldn’t be so fragile in their faith and understanding.
Im from Sri Lanka. A foreign couple came to my home, who has learnt my language, who spoke it fluently, tried to get me to this mother worship church. They prove from the Bible that there is a mother god in heaven who is in control. They referred from Book of Revealation. In my spirit i knew they are evil and chased them out. They dont try to convert non christians. They target Christians. Holy Spirit revealed to me their lies
Pastor Mike I’m in tears, 1st bc of David’s daughter and the damage this evil group has done to their family my heart breaks for them, and 2nd listening to you two reason together and how loving you were to show him Jesus and God. May the seeds take root and May their whole family be healed soon. Please God help them.
My heart goes out to this father. Because we are living in the last days satan is using whatever tactic he has to because he knows his time is running out. Never give up, pray for her and get into a spirit filled church have your church family pray for her. If you don't give up, God won't give up.
This breaks my heart💔 May God strike the leaders of this cult but let he or she that will believe the truth escape. I pray for this man's daughter and him and his wife. May God comfort this family.
This is so crazy because I got approached by someone from this cult a few years back and didn't even know it was the same as the Mother God thing. I was reading my Bible somewhere in public on a nice day at a table outside, and I prayed that if there was someone God wanted me to witness to, that they would see me reading the Bible and come ask me something about it. Not long after I prayed that, this girl approached me and said she was asking people questions for a school project. Then she started talking to me about how the book of Revelation predicted world war 2. It was a lot of very complicated stuff about Revelation and end times. At this point I did not know what group she was a part of or that it was a cult. She said they were called Church of God, and I had no clue what that was. She asked me if I wanted to meet her again for a Bible study. So I said yes, still kind of wondering if this was a regular Christian group. Right before we were going to meet, she called and said she had brought another person from her church with her, and asked if that was okay. I said sure. So we met in the same place, and that's when I realized how off their teachings were. They explained to me that all churches outside their own are wrong because they do not observe the passover and other feasts/ceremonies. They said communion is actually called the passover and must be observed at a particular time of year, and if not that person is not really saved. They also said baptism is necessary for salvation. Then they said that all of us lived in Heaven before we came to earth, and Adam and Eve's sin took place in Heaven. After that all humans were kicked out of Heaven and our memories were wiped, so we have no remembrance of our previous time in Heaven. I thought this was very similar to Mormonism. By the grace of God I had prepared myself beforehand and prepared some verses to refute certain things I'd heard from the first conversation. They wanted to meet with me again a third time, and I said yes because I really wanted to evangalize. Not saying it's wise to keep meeting with members from a group like this, but I ended up saying yes. This time halfway through one of the girls said she had to leave. Then a completely different girl approached us, and was like "Hey, watcha guys talking about?" Then she explained that she was from their church and just happened to be working nearby and see us there. I honestly don't believe it was just a coincidence, I think it was planned. So this other girl sat down and started debating with me too. This meeting was where they talked about how the Sabbath is actually on Saturday and that it was changed due to pagan influence, and if you went to church on Sunday you were actually worshipping the devil. Thankfully God gave me the right words to say where I was able to refute their points. I don't think they were convinced, but after that they stopped contacting me. I texted the girl I first met and invited her to my Christian group on campus. She didn't come, but I believe God put her in my path for a reason. They seemed like lovely people who honestly believed what they were saying. Please pray for these girls. 🙏 But it's crazy all this other stuff I had no clue about, because they don't tell you up front. They didn't say anything about this Korean guy or even the God the mother concept. It's like they're hiding it from you because you'll instantly know it's a cult if they say those things up front. They want to make it seem like just true Christianity. They take a lot of verses out of context too. I think they are hoping to run into people who don't really know their Bibles or aren't sure what they believe so they can be more easily convinced. They are also around the college I graduated from, going around on campus and trying to recruit people by inviting them to Bible studies. I also know of a friend of a friend who got involved and was trying to convert my friend. She went to the group itself and asked them for information about what they believed, like how regular churches have a mission statement that lists their core beliefs. They got really sketchy about it and had nothing to give her. They also told her not to look up stuff online about them because it was not true. If any group has to use lies and deceit and hide things from you, that's an instant red flag. I will be praying for this man's daughter that she will come out of this cult and find her way to true Christianity. 🙏❤
A JW came to my house and said do you want to study, I said no, they then said "okay take this literature", I said "no thanks", they asked again I still said "no", that old man was shocked lol. All I said was "no"
She believes that if she shares any doubts she’s may be having with you, she will be risking your salvation. This is what keeps many cult members from reaching out to family for help.
I remember feeling completely trapped because I felt that if I shared my struggles with anyone outside the group their salvation would be lost and I couldn’t share all of my struggles with anyone in the group without getting into trouble. I felt very alone.
It’s true I remember other members being told that were responsible for outsiders going to hell, because they allowed outsiders to know they weren’t happy in the group. We had to keep up appearances.
I lost my mom to this cult and she cut ties with me and her grandchildren because I didn’t want to go to her Church and I even shared your videos and she blocked me
Pray for the demonic doctrines to lose their power in your Mom's life. Prayer is the only thing you can rely on to get your Mom out. I have seen prayer work tremendous miracles.
The top leaders of this cult are leading people to hell. Kim joo-cheol and Zahng Gil-jah will burn in the lake of fire lest the repent and denounce this blasphemous and idolatrous abomination.
Some people from this church came to my door years ago, before I got married and when I was younger Christian. I thought that I was being a good Christian letting them in because I was naive at the time. They took me through a myriad of scriptures and even on that first day, they told me about God the mother. Something was not right, so I told them that I would have to pray about it and they asked if they could call me the next day. After they left I told my boyfriend, now husband, and he was like, "dude they are a cult." We did research and found out about their beliefs, and I realized that yes, this church was a cult. One of the followers called me back the next day and I told her, you are in a cult. She didn't really want to listen, so I emailed her scriptures backing up the truth about Jesus Christ and the gospel. I never heard back from her.
@@rmercedes971 Just say "FLEE FROM ME DEMON!!" I bet they leave you alone. Haha if they keep pursuing say, "Get behind me Satan" "I rebuke you in Jesus name". "I bind and loose you to hell demon". I guarantee their true nature of the angry demon posessing them will rear its ugly face. Keep saying God rebuke you.... if you dont wanna say all the other stuff :)
@@carolina_grace5721 My goodness, that would actually be hilarious 😂... I don’t think I could though, I just turn them down politely cuz I never want to hurt anyone’s feelings.
Only the Holy Spirit can open the eyes of this poor young lady. It is important to pray that the Lord intervene when all else fails. Those people laid a strong hold on her and only God can break it. God bless you for sharing. May the Lord open her eyes.
Mike, as I watched this video, I couldn't shake the feeling that Mr. Erdman needs to deal with his own beliefs and soul. He is going to need Jesus's help to then save his daughter. He is like the person on a plane that is in trouble, he is attempting to put the mask on his child before himself. He will be overtaken, and both could be lost!! I pray he seeks Jesus!
My aunt is going through the same thing with her daughter. My cousin won’t listen to anyone and is very explosive and argumentative when she is questioned about what she says that she gets from the church. However, she is really vocal about attacking biblical truth that she believes is not “interpreted” correctly. It could be written plainly in the Bible but she holds on to her beliefs. I just pray that God opens her eyes and delivers her.
Learn to pray from the court of Heaven BUT you must be strong spiritually to do this because devils do retaliate. I experienced that hugely when I prayed in that way over my nephew, who had a very bad bloodline from his dad's family. It has cost my family hugely. But God gives the victory. Yet you still must be very strong or you may be attacked in a severe way you aren't prepapred for. Devils do retaliate from those kinds of prayers because it pulls the person's life from destruction.
This is so scary. It makes me understand the scripture where people are telling Christ, Didn’t we prophecy in your name and cast out devils in your name,” and Jesus replies, “Get away from me evildoers. I never knew you.” They also seem to completely ignore the commandment to honor one’s parents.
I am scared...I Grieved Him and was so DECEIVED into me flesh and don't know If God will restore me and help.....I shouldn't have just uo and left my dad church TOP...for nobody
Jesus’ declaration that He came to fulfill the Law and the Prophets, not to abolish them, obviously contains two statements in one. There is something Jesus did and something He did not do. At the same time, Jesus emphasized the eternal nature of the Word of God. Jesus goes out of His way to promote the authority of the Law of God. He did not come to abolish the Law, regardless of what the Pharisees accused Him of. In fact, Jesus continues His statement with a commendation for those who teach the Law accurately and hold it in reverence: “Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven” (Matthew 5:19). Note the qualities that Jesus attributes to the Word of God, referenced as “the Law and the Prophets”: 1) The Word is everlasting; it will outlast the natural world. 2) The Word was written with intent; it was meant to be fulfilled. 3) The Word possesses plenary authority; even the smallest letter of it is established. 4) The Word is faithful and trustworthy; “everything” it says will be accomplished. No one hearing Jesus’ words in the Sermon on the Mount could doubt His commitment to the Scriptures. Consider what Jesus did not do in His ministry. In Matthew 5:17, Jesus says that He did not come to abolish the Law and the Prophets. In other words, Jesus’ purpose was not to abrogate the Word, dissolve it, or render it invalid. The Prophets will be fulfilled; the Law will continue to accomplish the purpose for which it was given (see Isaiah 55:10-11). Next, consider what Jesus did do. Jesus says that He came to fulfill the Law and the Prophets. In other words, Jesus’ purpose was to establish the Word, to embody it, and to fully accomplish all that was written. “Christ is the culmination of the law” (Romans 10:4). The predictions of the Prophets concerning the Messiah would be realized in Jesus; the holy standard of the Law would be perfectly upheld by Christ, the strict requirements personally obeyed, and the ceremonial observances finally and fully satisfied. Jesus Christ fulfilled the Prophets in that, in His first coming alone, He fulfilled hundreds of prophecies concerning Himself (e.g., Matthew 1:22; 13:35; John 19:36; Luke 24:44). Jesus Christ fulfilled the Law in at least two ways: as a teacher and as a doer. He taught people to obey the Law (Matthew 22:35-40; Mark 1:44), and He obeyed the Law Himself (John 8:46; 1 Peter 2:22). In living a perfect life, Jesus fulfilled the moral laws; in His sacrificial death, Jesus fulfilled the ceremonial laws. Christ came not to destroy the old religious system but to build upon it; He came to finish the Old Covenant and establish the New. Jesus came not to destroy the Law and the Prophets but to fulfill them. In fact, the ceremonies, sacrifices, and other elements of the Old Covenant were “only a shadow of the good things that are coming-not the realities themselves” (Hebrews 10:1). The tabernacle and temple were “holy places made with hands,” but they were never meant to be permanent; they were but “copies of the true things” (Hebrews 9:24, ESV). The Law had a built-in expiration date, being filled as it was with “external regulations applying until the time of the new order” (Hebrews 9:10). In His fulfillment of the Law and Prophets, Jesus obtained our eternal salvation. No more were priests required to offer sacrifices and enter the holy place (Hebrews 10:8-14). Jesus has done that for us, once and for all. By grace through faith, we are made right with God: “He forgave us all our sins, having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us; he has taken it away, nailing it to the cross” (Colossians 2:14). There are some who argue that, since Jesus did not “abolish” the Law, then the Law is still in effect-and still binding on New Testament Christians. But Paul is clear that the believer in Christ is no longer under the Law: “We were held in custody under the Law, locked up until faith should be revealed. So the Law became our guardian to lead us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian” (Galatians 3:23-25, BSB). We are not under the Mosaic Law but under “the law of Christ” (see Galatians 6:2). If the Law is still binding on us today, then it has not yet accomplished its purpose-it has not yet been fulfilled. If the Law, as a legal system, is still binding on us today, then Jesus was wrong in claiming to fulfill it and His sacrifice on the cross was insufficient to save. Thank God, Jesus fulfilled the whole Law and now grants us His righteousness as a free gift. “Know that a person is not justified by the works of the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law, because by the works of the law no one will be justified” (Galatians 2:16).
God told Moses to build the ark of the covenant to house the 10 commandments written on two tables of stone,four on one tablet of stone and the other six on the other tablet of stone. When someone says the 10 Commandments was nailed to the cross in the Old Testament and we don’t have to keep them anymore the following is what they don’t understand because they have not studied. 👇🏿 And it came to pass, (when Moses) had made an end of writing the words of this law in a book, until they were finished, 25 That Moses commanded the Levites, which bare the ark of the covenant of the LORD, saying, 26 Take this (book of the law,) and put it (in the 👉🏾SIDE 👈🏾of the ark) of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee. 👆🏿 THIS Is what was nailed to the cross: Colossians 2:14 (KJV) Blotting out the HANDWRITING 👈🏾 of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; The book of the law written by Moses that contained all of the ordinances and rules that governed the Community of people he was managing.. 👉🏿NOT Gods Ten Commandments.... After studying we see that there are TWO covenant laws ; one that Moses wrote and the 10 Commandments in which God wrote with his own finger; Kept 👉🏾INSIDE 👈🏾The Ark of the Covenant. ******Exodus 25:16 “And thou shalt put into the ark the testimony which I shall give thee.” People who are not studying misunderstand that there were TWO covenant laws associated with the ark of the covenant and that one of them was nailed to the cross. One placed the👉🏾 SIDE 👈🏾 (THE BOOK OF THE LAW) And we no longer have to keep those laws contained in the book of the law. The ark of the covenant still contained Gods 10 Commandments law written on stone that was given to Moses and still stands today as heaven and earth’s constitution from God. SCRIPTURE SAYS I AM THE LORD, I CHANGED NOT! The 10 Commandments remain an obligation to (professed Christians ) who follow Jesus Christ...(and the Bible says so in scripture ; ( therefore there 👉🏿REMAINS 👈🏿a Sabbath rest TO THE PEOPLE OF GOD) HEBREWS 4-4-9 SCRIPTURE says: ( In the new testament by the way) those who say they know ME and don’t keep my Commandments are a LIAR and the TRUTH is NOT in them.... THATS BIBLE! Lastly the word fulfilled NEVER meant ( do OR done away with)
My mother became a JW late in life. Now my brother is. Very similar in the brain washing and to sever them from family. But our current political system is doing the same thing to half our country
Wow, I remember these folks from college. They seemed very aggressive (in a cunning way) to me so I stayed away, but they definitely knew how to bend scripture. I wasn't a believer at that time but I was so avoidant of scripture that it saved me from these folks.
Thanks for the video on this cult again Mike. It really helps. Im really holding onto hope that my girlfriend will soon leave this church. Shes been brainwashed for years now. Idk if I should just cut it off and leave or be patient and bite my tongue. They dont listen to anything.
This is exactly like parental alienation .. and the officials have said it does not exist. In the meantime we have lost our children, our relationship and position as parent, and they have lost half of their family, half of who they are and their childhood history
Wow. This is so true. Btw, I’m the guy in the video. Have you ever heard of New Jersey Safe and Sound? If they had it where I live I would have never lost my kid.
@@Wishyouwerehere435 Oh my. Hello. Your story is heartbreaking. No, I've never heard of it. I'm in UK. What you described .. put in context of parents and family .. the guy doesnt stand a chance. But it happens to women too. It's insane. It's so hard being parent and not having the ability to parent isnt it .. a certain numbness is created in you after so long goes by. They totally believe everything theyve been told. Narcissists .. these people .. its demonic
To protect himself from possible retribution by the World Mission Society Church of God, “David Erdman” is using a fake name and his face is blurred out. This is because the WMSCOG is alleged to use law suits and family separation as ways of silencing those who openly come against them.
Here is my whole playlist of videos going into DETAIL about the true history and false teachings of the World Mission Society Church of God. th-cam.com/play/PLZ3iRMLYFlHvwOzziMOk9ZIHKphdag47d.html
Wow! Though i wasnt in mother God cult this is exactly my basic story but from the other side. My husband was the one trying to get me out and i put him through so much that i feel terrible for today. Finally we left state and ive been slowly deprogramming. I am so very sorry for what you went through Dave
I’ve never heard about this cult, but it’s seriously terrifying. As a parent, you hope and pray this type of thing doesn’t happen.
This poor father.
This is happening in Spain a lot, they worship so much idols they call mother like Fatima, virgins and so forth...
Thank you for all that you do brother. God bless you pastor mike
The WMSCOG cult has been active on my campus in the past. I've been approached 2-3 times. The first time I'd never heard of it but definitely had creepy vibes, and learning about it more I quickly found out why. Thanks for shedding light on it through this video!
The Bible doesnt ask you to be open minded it actually teaches to be protective of your mind. Please pray for this family.
Wisdom required humility, but that doesn't mean you listen to everyone.
Acts 17:11 says that the Bereans were fair, because they received the apostles' word with readiness of mind, but then they searched the scriptures to prove them to be true.
It definitely sounds like they were healthy skeptics! I always try to hit that balance. Listening to people openly, and listening, but like you said.... Being really protective of my mind and guarding my heart, through God's word, not just my opinion
I agree brother!
Amen!
amen
Please keep my daughter in your prayers. She has been snatched by them...and we are just having a difficult time right now.
Sure Maam. Pls pray some deliverance prayers . Erica Shepherd on shiela zelinski show. Powerful prayers. Break the satanic power over your daughter in the mighty name of our Lord Jesus. Pray it over and over till she is delivered. God bless . Stay strong
I pray Jesus, turns on the Light Bulb in her brain, to the Real Truth! Amen
Let us do a prayer for your daughter. That is wicked. This needs prayer and fasting ......consistently until your daughter is returned. Thats such a shame
Oh mercy. Will be praying. I'm so sorry
Yes, I pray God would deliver her from their web of deceit
Hi guys just warning everyone, they're going online now, doing bible studies on zoom. I was caught in it but fortunately the Holy Spirit led me out, helping me notice so many red flags.
Yea true!
They did it to me! Omg ! I studied with them for like once a week for 3 weeks, they told me that they would tell me the name of Christ because he has already come, but at this point I started filing that something wasn’t right, so I found this videos and I felt so sad, scared, I immediately left the study bible, the girl started saying that’s my last chance to salvation, I literally blocked her. If you find this people on the street run fast!!!!!
Amen. Praise God that He saved ya'll
@@laraolimpia7438 I'm in the mess too!! I just ignored their call because I gave them my number.
I started sensing Red flags when they mentioned ansahong
Where are they? I would love to debate these ppl
@@chaboi7 they're everywhere but they like to mainly aim for uni students and more vulnerable ppl
I truly empathize with this man. I was born into a destructive cult. Eight months ago, after being inside for 26 years, my girlfriend and I escaped with new phone numbers, emails, bank accounts, etc. My mother, brother, and dearest friends are still on the inside. Since we escaped, I've spent all of my free time researching cults, emotional and spiritual abuse, personality disorders, and thought reform. This stuff is more dangerous than anyone could possibly imagine. I've watched it destroy life after life after life.
Life is so good now. I've tasted freedom for the first time ever and will never let it go. Even more, it's been a joy discovering what Christianity truly is and cutting through the misinterpretation and manipulation. I'll be graduating from law school in a month and plan to spend the rest of my life fighting for adults in children in cults, domestic violence situations, and abusive relationships.
I pray that your calling is successful. I pray that, if this truly be your calling from God (of which I'm 100% certain) that it is fruitful, and powerful. Praise be to our God.
God bless you man!
So so proud of you. Be abundantly blessed in truth and power.
I will pray for you brother. So excited for the work God will do through you!
My husband left me alone for 30 seconds in the female hygiene section of a Walmart a couple years ago and I got approached by these people. They really seem to target young women
Studying the “Big 5,” especially in Jordan Peterson’s TH-cam lectures/clips helped me understand the psychology around all this when I was pursuing a career in marketing.
Notice how *on average* women are easier to market to because we’re higher in “agreeableness” than most men. (I myself am low in agreeableness, but high in openness, which has me fascinated with this stuff, as it causes me to feel less feminine than I want to be...)
Anyway! To “Christianize” that term: more women are easier to be nurturing and submissive than men are, and thus shy away from a debate.
Narcissists and manipulators use this to gain leverage on easy prey, like young impressionable women who most likely don’t know themselves yet and just want to fit in with a group.
Yep or children
@@jessitabonita Women too often shy from admitting this weakness, in the context.
Females are inclined to messaging, fear, control, easier than males are.
You don't have to be world traveled to know to avoid any freaks that hang out in the feminine hygiene section of any store. Ditto for the diaper section.
It warns specifically about this in the book of Timothy!
Imagine getting together a Mormon, Jehovah's Witness, and someone from the Mother God cult in a room and watching them try to convert each other.
I was Mormon for 37 years and they teach that there is a Heavenly mother. Disturbing.
@@coko3124 Exactly. There are many similarities between them, chiefly their cultist environment. It would be an interesting exercise watching them try to debunk each other, when none of them are filled with the truth.
"You put liars in one room and eventually they will all agree with each other because they all worship the same God = Antichrist"
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@@davidlegkodukh6969 No doubt they will all find common ground, maybe even about surprising points.
This is so heart-wrenching. Dear God, please bring her back in Jesus name.
Amen
I'm not a believer, but I also hope these zealots be disbanded and their organization's assets liquidated.
Amen 🙏
Amen and Amen
Amen
When I was 18, I almost joined a cult. I was in a relationship and the guy was a part of this strange church, but I gave it a chance. They scared me by saying they were the only ones who had a CHANCE to be saved and I believed it. Soon, we were engaged as college Freshman. My family soon warned me of dangers and I was utterly confused. I spent months struggling with my faith and the relationship became abusive. Soon, I left both him and the cult.
I’m now almost 22 years old and will graduate college soon. I transferred universities to get far away from this cult. While I still struggle with fear, I know God is powerful and is working through me, I’m getting stronger by the day!
To those of you who love someone in a cult, just know there is hope! Remind your loved one how you feel about them and make time for non judgement conversations. Take the time to listen and be gentle with your words. I received both loving advice and judgmental advice. The judgmental comments really slowed me down. Remember, it is more important to help someone than “be correct.”
Wow. That’s crazy. I’m sorry you had to go through that. Where are you at now? Are you doing better?
Let's all agree in prayer for this man's daughter, for her mind to be restored and her eyes opened.
Amen and amen.
Deliverance, and strength to stand tall in the battle.
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Amen 🙏
Amen!
...Her mind be restored n led a better life!! Including her family 👪 ..
Amen in Jesus name and through his precious blood may she be restored ✝️
Listen to what happened at my Son’s High School Classroom.
Teacher told the class to all go the right side of the classroom. The teacher said:
1. Go to the left side if you think that we need more gun control. Some kids go to the left.
2. Go to the left side if you think that Abortion is okay. Several more kids go to the left.
3. Go to the left side of the class if you think that gay marriage is okay. All but two kids moved over to the left side. My son and one other boy. At this point listening to the story I am thinking great job for standing your ground but feeling a concern...
Then the teacher asked him why did you stay on the right side of the classroom? My 18 years old son answered because the Bible says that Marriage is between a Man and a Woman.
I am one Very Proud Father!!! More importantly God is proud of him!!!
Ironically the teacher said that’s what I believe too.
Danny I would choose neither way I would choose Jesus marriage is a promise you make to God in being an earthly parent for him where men and women are equal!
Congratulations man. I hope he continues to stand for the Lord.
The teacher shouldn't be giving an opinion in this type exercise which is to promote discussion between classmates and talk about values. Their job isn't to influence values but to get the students to think critically.
This is disturbing.
I am glad to hear your son doesn’t give in to peer pressure and trusts God over human society. But, I am disappointed to hear that schools are devising such methods on students. I really dislike that the political left is categorizing people and teaching what is right or wrong based on the categorization. And I likewise really dislike someone on the political right doing the same.
I dunno, maybe I’m wrong to say students shouldn’t be forced to say what their beliefs are in a classroom, but currently I feel very strongly that they should not.
And in an activity like that they are forcing students to state their beliefs. Because I assume the teacher didn’t give the students the option to leave and sit down without casting a vote.
Those scenarios I think are too close to peer pressuring students, and some students might not know yet what to believe because they’re still learning.
I will be praying for David and his family. We nearly lost our son to Buddhism. We did not know where he was for two years. But before he cut off communication with us, we discovered he had divested himself of most of his worldly goods, was living at a monastery and was in training to become a Buddhist monk! If not for God's prayer warriors and daily dives into His Word, we would not have survived. Like David, I immersed myself in reading about Buddhism and even visited a Buddhist abbey to speak with "nuns" there. I was hoping that when my son contacted us, I would be more prepared to connect with him. Then, one day, out of the blue, we received a call from our son asking if he could come home. We don't know why he left the monastery and rejected Buddhism - we are just SO thankful to have him home! He has not fully embraced Christianity again, but God must have a plan in all this that will bring glory and honor to His name!
In Lord Jesus Christ's name (Colossians 3:17),
So glad he's out of that false faith but praying he gets to a relationship with Christ so he doesn't get caught up in another false faith. ❣️🙏🙏✝️🕯️🦋
So releive to hear at the end, we need to keep praying for our kids
@@miacrowe7133 it's not a false faith they let him go if it were they would of force him to stay or made him believe his religion is bad
Bell he wasn't in a false faith he was let go also he wasn't maltreated nor forced to join or try to convince him to stay cause his original religion is supposedly bad
Prayers for your son and you as well! Thank God he brought your son home!
I freed a thousand slaves, I'd have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves. - Harriet Tubman
It's I freed a thousand slaves, I COULD HAVE freed a thousand more, if only they knew they were slaves!! God bless ❤️
Leah Remini said a similar idea as she drove past Scientology in Clearwater Florida. She said, I was driving past these people, freely walking around outside, and I wanted to take them in my car and help them escape, but they had been trained to mentally keep themselves enslaved, so I couldn't even help them.
The best slave is a slave that doesn’t know he’s a slave.
True knowledge is what people are afraid of. It’s all there, just waiting for us to want to see it for what it really is. So many are deceived, even the very elect.
@@Thundersnowy are you a Christian? Did you celebrate Easter? Eat ham? Go to sunrise service?
@@MrDrocballer why the questions?
*The problem with deception is that people don’t know that they are deceived* 🤔😢
‘It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled’.
Unless of course, they are willing to admit to themselves that they have been fooled, in which case, they learn and stand prepared for whoever else might try to fool them in the future. Life is hard. We need to be innocent as doves, and not forget to also be wise as snakes. So that the snake doesn't bite us and poison us.
@A Lucky Man! I agree. A person chooses to go down the wrong path and I think as I continue the heart becomes harder and harder to the point that it makes it more more difficult to realise the delusion that they are living.
I think sometimes they do they just think there is something good that can come out of it
@@georgelegault3985
Sometimes not even critical thinking helps. These cults play on emotional and psychological wounds and past traumas; things most people aren’t fully aware that they have regardless of how educated they are. It’s possible to be smart and logical and still fall prey because the programming goes deeper than mere mind tricks. It reaches the heart.
That is a very profound statement! More so than most would think!
I had someone approach me from this cult about a month ago. The same woman approached my daughter a week earlier. Praise God that my daughter did not get sucked in to this. I will pray for this man's family.
I was also approached locally here in Apple Valley, California, in a Dollar Tree of all places. The person invested over an hour trying to convince me to see “Mother God” in scriptures that she repeatedly cycled through.
Your daughter sounds very wise. Thank God she did not join this cult.
I watched to 1:03 but a cult how? Did they kill someone? You can not call a religious group a cult just because you don't like how they interpret the Bible!
@@user-lv4ov5rp6d I believe they are referring to the BITE model. That is what is popularly believed to be consistent with a cult. People don’t have to kill someone to be a cult.
B=Behavior control
I =Information control
T=Thought control
E=Emotional control
There are numerous TH-cam videos regarding the bite model. They are very interesting, you should look into them.
@@weir_family But there is a difference between a sect and a cult. For example, Jehovah’s Witnesses and Mormons are not a cult only a sect. While Scientology Church is a cult, they even kill people who don't want to be a member anymore. I don't think you should use the word cult lightly.
I was Mormon for 37 years and this is what they do in a much more subtle way. Every cult is dangerous!
Glad to have you back!
God is good.
Praise GOD you’re no longer Mormon. Are you now a born again Christian? I have many friends and family who are Mormon and JWs...
I would love to hear your conversion story of leaving the Mormon church. I have a neighbor who is Mormon and she talks as though we all believe the same thing.
@@lizj3815 I am a born again Christian! God has delivered me from so many false spirits and teachings. I used to hear voices in my head all the time then after being delivered I never hear anything I just feel God's peace and serenity and occasionally He brings scriptures to my mind when I am searching for an answer but he gave me a brain and heart to figure out the rest and the Body of Christ to support and strengthen and edify me. Praise God! Hallelujah!
I visited here and completed their Bible study with my sister and goodness! If I wasn't so well versed in the Bible and had a strong family, I could see myself falling for this place. They're very sneaky and super sweet. The members genuinely believe what they are doing. I saw through all of it still.
Wow thats amazing that you made it through a bible study. How were you able to deflect the false ideas they were trying to show you?
God is So Great
those who stay away from God are wicked …. you need to go back to that church, the church preaches Truth from the Bible
@@LilVic_ yes, the triune God, who we dont have churches that claim to know the end times, that baptise under the name Father, son, and holy spirit, and dont use phrases like "you might be right but i dont care" when confronted on their theology
@@duckmeat4674 the church doesn’t claim to know when the end times are ,, we just go with the prophecys in the Bible
My Nanna used to say "An open mind is good. So's an open window. But we put screens on them to keep the bugs out!"
I love that. Very smart. Our screen is Gods Word.
One phrase I've learned was "Keep an open mind but not so open that your brain falls out"
An open mind is one who are filled with wisdom.
@@lucaswilhelmmeyer6943 wisdom? Or more confusion?
Your Nanna was a wise woman.
Wasn’t Jesus’ FIRST warning this: “many will come in My name”? I had not heard of this manifestation, but it is beyond horrible. Thank you Mike and Mr X. May God return your daughter, and may you both find Him.
He meant people who are literally IN his name. Do you even know what it means to be IN the name of jesus christ. That doesnt mean coming on his behalf, it doesnt mean praying and saying "in jesus name", being IN his name literally means you are IN the word, IN the over soul that IS Christ Jesus. To be IN the name of jesus means you are In him, not just him in you, theres a difference between the two.. christ is in all, but not all are in christ. Just like you should do a jewish study on what son of man means, and what man means. You folks don't even know what it means to be in his name.. to know what that means takes an extensive study on jewish culture and language, and what exactly they believed during the time of christ.
@@JewessChrstnMystic '... it's often been so confusing. Righteous in His name pastors have been the bomb! (( why more don't know that santa claus is the derivative from the Dutch accent of St Nicholas (( I just popped in here, don't bug me.... haven't felt too good
@@jeffreyfeinstein5525 your comment makes no sense to me. And I'm not the one that bothered you, YOU replied to comment I made that had nothing to do with you. Do not reply to a comment of mine and then tell me not to bug you.. that's not how social interaction works man. If you dont want a reply then dont reply to my comments. Santa has nothing to do with being in the name of jesus. Nice try though, you completely veered away from the subject at hand.
This is how many many people who don't read the Bible for themselves, get trapped by deceivers.
@@JewessChrstnMystic 'Yes Ma'm. I found your initial comment to be an insightful teaching.
The topic of santa Claus comes up here and there lately, on true Ministry and secular topics.
I get that santa is not the topic. Just was sayin the original pronunciation of St Nicholas was 'straightened out' by american and european literates. And was just hoping to not receive, for whatever reason, a non- damaging response. But no, seems I got a surprise.
There have been like an endless abyss of manipulations in the name of the Lord Jesus. Wouldn't pretend to 'write' back with scriptural verses.
Often, believing is even heavier than learning. ...and if I'd have found the young lady, I'd have certainly let her parents or an official authority seek her and a prayer for her and her family.
Ya know, I came across this short self narrative vid recently. If I can try to recall. "The Atlantic" channel. "A 97 year-old man faces his own death" ' What is the meaning of life's (something like that). Though not a intrusively long, it was intense. Read through the comments for my own reasons. Barely seemed a believer there. Again, the old man was a 'heavy cat'.
I have faith that the young lady in this misguidance has a strong support group here and a good chance to find her way back to our Father'.
And, I'll keep myself shut
They almost got me when I was a student at UNLV. It’s sad how they take advantage of people who truly want to learn about God.
thats what happened to my own girl. Now shes been in for years. Totally brainwashed it sucks.
Did you celebrate Easter? Are you Christian? Eat ham? Go to sunrise service?
@@MrDrocballerhey, what r u tryna imply?
@@AvengeTheCheese curiosity. Just bringing to light that people may not know who they’re giving their energy to.
@@AvengeTheCheese care to answer those questions?
Any group that wants to isolate you from even listening to others and only slowly presents their own central doctrines loves darkness and hates that light can expose them for what they are. This is one of the hallmarks of every cult.
Jesus was never "cultic."
@@davegibbs6423 Never said he was, and I don't think either of the things I said fit Him.
Groups that suck you in by hiding their central and divisive doctrine as well as cutting you off from any outside voices would be the likes of Mormons, JW, and WMSCOG. They all pervert the truth and often try to conceal much of that until they have you only trusting them and not listening to anyone else, even the Bible itself.
@@JD-kr4dq No you didn't. That was just rhetorical. I agree.
Always beware people who try to cut you off from others.
Isolation is a huge red flag of a cult, you're right.
True!!! wmscog makes sure you dont speak to your friends , family if they are not in the church. One of the pastor's wife directly said to me " one day you have to live alone sister , please dont be afraid to live in the dark " i was like what ???? 😂 She surely wanted me to leave my family and live alone.
My daughter attends this church.....and so is my niece. All I can do is pray for them. It was so so hard in the beginning when they first joined. Now all we do is pray for them, God is bigger than and non Christian organization. I just leave it in God's hands. Prayer moves the hand of God.☝🏼
Just make sure they are happy. Ask them over and over again . If they are happy and that’s the place they want to be then so be it but I’m in trauma therapy because of this organization. I wish I had a more attentive family so that I would not have stayed as long as I did and experienced verbal abuse and loss of identity
@@rosasellers1813 My question is what made you leave the group? If you don’t mind. Thank you 😊
Prayer doesn't move squat.... You have no will over God
So sorry this cult has invaded your family. Praying for your daughter.
@@LilVic_ watch the video and say that again, if you are wanting to be an apologist for this group, first talk about this girls father in the video
They came to my door - I'm happy to discuss God with anyone. They gave me their game plan and I said it was very interesting. Not interested in hearing more but interesting. Next time they (not the same people) came back I said "oh yes, God told me you'd be coming by." Scared the hell out of them. One said "How do you know it was God and not Satan?" I said "Because He told me YOU are Satan."
lol I can imagine their surprised pikachu face :v
You can't just end it there
@@myklorenzo87 Well, that was about 6 years ago and I've moved so I'd say "yes I can".
Oh, so you've spoken to God 1 on 1 before?
@@cortexkiller1122 Everyone has spoken to God and everyone has heard from God. I'm by no means exceptional. I mean, not to tell me that they were coming to the door, that was just to shoo them off my doorstep and give them something they couldn't argue.
So my ex and I visited one of these churches. They kept us in a room and went over the Bible. I asked to use the restroom, the woman came with me. When I came out she was standing dead in front of me. I had texted my ex and told him we need to leave. So he was already in the hall waiting for me.... I told him we are leaving now, they followed us out to the front door and as soon as we got in the car I told him none of what they are saying is full truth. I told him it is a cult!!! Gut feeling then I started googling. Saved by discernment and by God that lives in me!!! Praying for this man and his family!!!
I've had this happen to me too. In college I was reunited with my best friend from elementary, we had lost contact in middle school. So meeting her again was so amazing and then she asked me if I wanted to have a bible study. I of course was so excited because she knew I was Christian, in fact she was one of the first people I told about me wanting to get baptized. So I actually thought, I actually thought when we met up for the "bible study" she started to bring up all these blasphemous things.
I couldn't believe what was happening and I just broke down. I was so angry and shocked, not at her but at the fact that this cult twists the word of God so horribly.
I do think I scared her though because I just started crying and trying to explain to her that that wasn't it. It was so terrible, I wish I had been more prepared in my walk with God. I had to ask my parents to pick me up from school and l couldn't even explain to them what was happening because I was crying non-stop, its just so crazy.
I pray that one day your friend can see the horrible things they are doing to her.
I’m in the Atlanta area. My wife and I were part of a controlling church for 15+ years. We were in college and we were hooked. The pastor told us that she was our spiritual mother and that God picked us out to be her children since she lost her biological ones. She picked 12 of us (6 similar aged couples) and basically made us into her “disciples”. We called her mom and we felt very special. I wouldn’t call the church a cult but looking back, there were a lot of “cult” like characteristics. We were told that no other church was like us. We were the only true disciples and other churches were just playing religion, etc. The pastor used Watchman Née’s book Spiritual Authority to tell us that we need to submit and not question her. After all, she’s not only our spiritual authority, she was also our mom. As we got older, we started questioning things but by then we were so involved with the church and basically it became our entire life. We finally left about 4 years ago but a lot of our friends are still there and . We spent most of our adult lives there. It’ll be too long to talk about everything that happened there but thank God we were able to break away. I believe the pastor wanted to create a community that she could control and stay safe. She loved having people flock to her and calling her mom and compete for her attention and praise. We’re still in the process of healing and re-learning things. I’m praying for others that God will wake them up.
Thank God you got out! I grew up in a cultish group but it was a lot of family and a mix of NAR and house church and Semitic concepts .
Glad I am out 🙏
Praying for your healing. God bless you both.
Very similar story here. Those watchmen nee books were used on us too. It's great you got out with your wife. I'm currently going through a divorce after 21 years of marriage and 4 kids under 19. My 18 and 16 yr olds have ended their relationship with me too. God is good. He's faithful and hasn't left me stranded. It's been a great test of faith to walk through this, and I'm still believing our marriage can be healed, because God gives good gifts.
Well first off , its unbiblical for a Women to pastor.. im sorry I know that bothers a lot of people. Glad you are okay. I also was part of a religious cult.
@@toddcote4904 I am so sorry to hear that. I truly believe that with God, nothing is wasted and somehow He will use our experiences for good. I am praying for you and your family.
I had these people come to my door once, and I spoke with them for a few moments because I wondered if they were JW or other. When they started talking about Mother God, I quickly shared the true gospel and said thanks, I’ll never change my mind. Goodbye.
Karri Compton, Right, you have to CUT the enemy off RIGHT where he starts.
Good for you for recognizing false mother of God theology and standing your ground against this dangerous cult.
Thank God that the true Christ Jesus saved you and protected you from the deception of this cult, and that you were able to speak the truth to them!
@@jessicalindsey7393
Heresy in everywhere now even into the main stream mega churches it's a mess.
I am going to inform my children about the existence of World Mission Society Church of God so that they.don’t fall victims. Praying for this father and his family.
Amen! So will I. Praise the Lord Jesus Christ!💯🙌🏼🙏🏼
This is so sad. There was a man that would frequent the dog park for years daily where I took my dog. He enjoyed engaging with people about spiritual things and knew I was Christian. I’m talking maybe 5-6 years of biblical lighthearted sharing. Then suddenly when no one was there he got up in my face and made himself large and he was already a very large almost 60 something athletic man. I enjoyed our dialogues all those years and considered him a friend. He never scared me. But that day his eyes got scary and he demanded I declare God was Mother. Nope! I stood him down and stood my ground. He backed away and cackled and tried to call me friend. I told him no one who uses fear to intimidate me to make a false confession would be called friend. I never went back. Found a new dog park. That was a long game. Maybe he was somehow connected to this cult. Yikes. He knew I had just left an abusive marriage situation and was in a difficult time. Maybe he was testing to see if I would fold under pressure 🤷♀️
Dang that's terrifying
He sounds demonically oppressed.
Good for you to stay strong in the face of an attack. I am not being extreme, verbal and emotional and spiritual abuse is very real, and I believe any abuse in those realms is an attack.
I am glad to hear your story. Stay strong, ⚓
What's up with calling God mother anyways? Makes no sense to me
@@GauteAnimationNorway There's this Asain lady in Korea who claims to be the female half of God in flesh. Yeah it's real wacky
Let's pray for his daughter.
He seemed like such a lovely father.
LETS ALL PRAY FOR HIS DAUGHTER. WHY DO I HEAR TOO MANY WEAK CRY OUTS, OR JUST WEAK COMMENTS , LETS GET THAT DEMON OUT, IN JESUS NAME...!!! DEVIL LOVE THESE KINDS OF WEAKNESSES...PLEASE PPL, MAN WAS NOT HERE TO HEAR " GOD BE WITH YOU" WE ARE MORE THAN CONQUERORS. OR NOT.Tthis is not a regular talk show. Or is it...
I genuinely believe that the initial way people get drawn into these cults is due to a limited or lack of bible knowledge and a dependence on others to 'teach' it to them. It can never be stressed enough, how important it is to read the bible on your own. It is a spiritual book, it is the Holy Spirit that ministers to you when you read it. It is so important to cultivate this with yourself first before fellowshipping with people and relying on others to tell you what the bible says. How else are you going to be able to test the spirits?
Amen!
Absolutely
That’s exactly right! Know the real thing and it’s easier to spot the counterfeit!
We need the word of God and to be baptized with the Holy Spirit to win the battle with the devil. Let us pray for our children because they are easy targets for the devil. God have mercy on all of us, may He protect our souls from being captured by the devil.
This is precisely what happens. Growing up in Mormonism your never taught to study the Bible - just to locate your prooftexts. In 43 years as a Mormon I never heard a sermon preached where even an attempt was made at exegesis. I never even knew what it meant until 3 years after leaving. They just quote a passage, give their own interpretation as the obvious truth, and move on to the next proof text. I never so much as heard any acknowledgment of another possible interpretation. Nothing to think about - no alternative to consider. No need to read the previous verse, or the one after. Context doesn’t matter either. Just gobble up this false gospel, false scripture, don’t question, follow the “prophet”.... etc.... etc....
I nearly lost my boys to a cult!
I THANK GOD he did not let that happen ! I feel your pain !!
Thank God for his mercy and grace
You may be a part of a cult and not even know it. Crazy I know. Did you celebrate Easter? Eat ham? Go to sunrise service?
@@MrDrocballer There's nothing occultic about Christianity.....those are traditions at best 🙄 Most religions have traditions....every religion so to call Christianity a cult, you'll also need to call every other religion a cult as well.
@@evangelistzayparker251 you have no idea how deceived you really are
No sir you are deceived lol bless your heart 🙏
As some one whose father got caught up in a cult my heart aches for this family. This poison destroys familes...
"If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters--yes, even their own life--such a person cannot be my disciple.” Luke 14:26
Cults do destroy families, take a look at how much damage the jw do to their own family, they go as far as disowning them.
@@mrmaat you not being a Christian are clueless.
Your lack of context is hilarious!
@@davidjanbaz7728 You’re taking me out of context. Examine the plank in your own eye.
@@jessicalindsey7393 read your bible, Jesus came to tear "families" apart, find out who is teaching their kids the word, and who isn't. The only "family" that matters in the end, is the Father and the Son. Some people are not Jesus, they cannot envelop themselves in the lion's den and trust they will come out victorious, so they protect themselves by shunning, aka abstaining from the activity of interacting with that other person. That is not a JW specific practice. Satan has no power where God and the individual do not allow it.
Brother .. I was myself influenced by the same cult once upon a time in my life which lasted for about 7 - 8 months and had the same zeal as you say your daughter has.. but God miraculous got me out of all this !! Praying for her ..
Thank God!
🙏
Care to share how please? I'm sure it will be helpful.
Praise God!! 🙌
Did they harrass you when you left?
This is one of those things that no parent is prepared for. Pray, pray, pray.
That is the mistake. Be ready of be sorry. The bible tells us to be on guard all the time.
I also think that maybe we should be doing something too. Praying is important but there comes a point where we also need to be doing something too, I feel. That we need to put in the work too to get things done.
For example, we should tell our friends and families about this cult and get the word out at the very least.
@@narnia1233 Also, certain people need to be punched in the face. Maybe we all need to take our cue from Saint Nicholas here. You get punched in the face enough times, the money might seem less important to you. Just sayin'...
@@amybee40 Sorry I don’t fully understand what you mean, but I don’t support violence. Although it does make me upset too that people are being deceived. I definitely wouldn’t mind a follow up study and discussion on what a person should do in such a scenario. And maybe what others can/should do to get the truth out there.
But, maybe it does begin small within our own communities, friends and family.
@@amybee40 lol. i hope you're joking though but i feel you.
I think the most difficult thing about leaving this group is the Love Bombing. I've been in the WMSCOG for 4 months, I left after seeing your videos Mike, God bless you for that. But the difficult part I'm still dealing with is the heartbreak. I honestly wish it wasn't a cult because of the love bombing, they make you feel like family, the sense of community is very strong with this group and you just become addicted to the love. I'm freshly out but struggling because the Deacon and his wife are just such nice people, even after I left I feel heartbroken for me and for them still. I know time will heal all wounds but I'm scared I might relapse. I've made myself a ritual of "everytime I think about joining again, just remind myself that it's a cult" So far it's working.
When I look upon nice false teachers I always remember enemy of God and pur souls. This help me keep of false feelings. If we would see spirits we would be shocked to see real picture of the world, nice and bad people.
Be strong and courageous, remember the enemy of our soul masquerade himself. 2 Corinthians 11:14 "And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light." Whatever you do, let the word of God (scripture) be your guide. May Christ presence overwhelm you.
@@jummyjohn Well it's been 2-3 months since then. I've deprogrammed a lot since then, so I'm doing better. My shrink actually told me something similar once I left the cult. "The Devil reads the gospel".
@@Alexandar358 Glory be to God. Please let Christ be the Lord and Savior of your soul. Ask our Heavenly Father for the baptism of the Holy Spirit so your being is filled with His presence. I will keep you in prayers. May the peace of God that passes all understanding rest mightily on you. Shalom.
The word cult means a group of people gathering with the same beliefs. Everything in society can be a cult technically. I’m sorry you studied the Bible & seen prophecies & later allowed someone to lead you a stray. We love all our brothers & sisters. I’ll pray for you ❤️ God bless you
They came up to me twice on the street here in Taiwan, 1 time with 2 person that were very unequipped, another time with 3 person that were more equipped, and "debating" with them on the street was very exhausted. And their "church" was less than 5min walk from my house, I guess I will bump up to them again soon.
They are a cult. I am glad you know about them. I met those people when I lived in Seoul. They wanted me to join them. I am glad I did not join them.
Yes, you probably will bump up into them again, and again, and again, until they are offended by you and your firm stance in Jesus. Endure to the end -- having done all, stand!
@@vocalpelican The first time I met that two people, they don't really know anything about theology, I think they just memorized some points that their "pastor" gave them, and just got send out as missionary. They came up and told me they are doing a survey about people believing in heaven and hell, ask me if I'm interested. Then they started to sell their idea that you need to keep the passover to go to heaven. And they literally show me a poster that they prepared that has Luke 22:19 in big bold red font, saying that is their biblical proof. And I literally just tell them can you read that verse again? Jesus said :「do this」for what? They BOTH replied at the same time : 「in remembrance of Me」LOL!! I said: 「Yeah~ in remembrance of Me! Not to get saved!」Then they said to me they are new believers so they are not so familiar with the Bible, then ask me if they could have my number because they have better "teachers" in their church that could answer my questions. I said to them if you want my number just so that you could have your people to educate me? Forget it, because my church is teaching biblical sound doctrines verse by verse, and you guys don't even know what you're preaching. Then they walked away.
And the second time they were more "prepared", and also more "aggressive", they almost get angry by the questions that I asked them. 1 of the guy literally raise his voice saying: "You don't even want to believe!! It's meaningless for you to ask those questions!!" And I was like, what?! You guys came up to me, wasting my time with your bad theology, what is that attitude for? LOL!! I just asked them how the thief on the cross get saved? By faith? or by keeping the passover? They kinda got triggered by that.🤦🏻♂️
Stay strong in your Christian faith. May envelope you with His protection and peace.
Praying biblical wisdom and patience over you !
I was in a cult for almost two years. I thank God that he made a way of escape for me.
Praise the Lord!
Which one?
@@vernonsteinkamp1088 International Churches of Christ ICOC
@@allenaustin5947 me too. Do you have an email address
@@allenaustin5947 I've heard of United Church of Christ ( very liberal). I used to belong to the Church of Christ.
Pastor mike thank you for everything you do! All your videos and podcasts are edifying.
Thank you to "David" as well for speaking out against a cult! That can be incredibly difficult to do even with blurred faces. Thank you to both of you!
This cult almost had me and I thank God for saving me ❤
They came to my door once, I invited them in. It got really awkward. They said “are you sealed with the Spirit of God?” I asked if they meant the Seal of the Spirit. They said no. And it got way crazier from there. At some point they told me they didn’t want to tell me of the Woman in Asia who they saw as the Messiah, because they didn’t want me to blaspheme her name. Or something like that, it’s been a long time. We both awkwardly laughed. They seemed to have this weird, WAY out of context, train they took scripturally from Revelation and it was definitely all out of context. Eventually ending with observing the law, and making fun of the cross on my wall. I think when I said I didn’t worship the cross on my wall, they said yeah well it’s an idol. Needless to say, I’m pretty sure they left feeling like I had made some really good points. I think I showed them how they weren’t following the OT systems of Law. And the usual awkwardness persisted. They are ABSOLUTELY confused, and you can tell they camouflage that confusion with a false confidence.
As an apostate from "true Christianity," I often hope missionaries visit me, but sadly it has not yet come to fruition. I generally don't want non-violent theists to leave their faiths, but it is quite entertaining to make them uncomfortable with internal critique of their own religions.
@@R01202 You’d probably be surprised by how many Christians have confronted criticism already. What caused you to leave Christianity?
@@logantavellimusic3839 You might be surprised how many haven't. Especially from a competent "heretic."
@@dallasswoveland4466 Today I listened to Gary Habermas discuss the dating and skeptical criticism of New Testament early Creeds. He quoted skeptics such as Bart Ehrman. It seems that even skeptics struggle with an explanation for the Resurrection. One of the theories is hallucinations. Yeah... it would be like an atheists best theory pointing towards aliens instead of God.
@@logantavellimusic3839 I'm not following.
This guy is extremely likable and, Lord willing, will be a huge asset to the Faith once God opens his eyes to His truth. I’m praying for God to change and mend his heart. He was a really courageous soul for being willing to share his story and also be raw about where he is now in his faith.
About one of your later comments in the video: after a lifetime of negative church "family" experiences, I am having a hard time trusting any church and am not currently involved in a church fellowship because of that. However, the more I watch you, the more I trust you as an honest, fair, and godly man of integrity, the best compliment I could ever imagine giving. Thank you for all you do for so many of us!
That's so sad! I'm sorry that bad churches have made it hard for you to trust.
Go to a church with hierarchy and tradition. There are so many false churches because of sola scriptura. I recommend Catholic or orthodox
@@Personaje123 hierarchy but no accountability. That's pointless.
I used to be in this cult, crrrrazy times smh, best of luck to all trying to get out
Hello Diane, what made you quit that cult if you don’t mind sharing.
@@harley6222 great question, there's 2 ways to quit a cult, one is thinking critically and making a choice based on evidence shown, the other is unfortunately how I came to leave which is called preconditioning, before joining the cult I was predisposed to cultic behaviors (this man David's daughter was too based on what he's saying in the video) so I left out of fear, pressure, anxiety and not from being in my right mind. Take it from me, you don't want it to happen the way it happened for me, it's like leaving 2 cults at the same time. There's a million better ways to leave a cult!
Ok I rethought my last response lol I'm at peace with how I got out of the cult, it's ok that other people were pressuring me and didn't necessarily give me the "right" reason to leave, the point is I got out! Surviving, thriving, all in one piece, living my life I'm thankful to have back, and
The most important thing honestly, if I had not have joined that cult I would not have read the Bible and I would not know Jesus for who He really is and know Him personally, it's worth going thru the whole ordeal a hundred times over if it means getting to see the glory that was revealed from it, I really really mean that, I have something now that can never be taken away
@@dianabrown2258 im so glad you found Jesus :) that reminds me of the verse that All things work together for good for those that love the Lord :) thanks for sharing your testimony
How did you get out?
The mind is a battle ground for the soul. I glad that you getting the information out about these evil cults and pointing people to Biblical Christianity. Keep it up in Christ Jesus name. GodBless Amen
Please pray for my sister's deliverance , she was ensnared by this church and has become a devout follower. It's put a major strain my family's relationship with her.
Always happy to talk if it helps
You must have a really possessive and intolerant family.
@@nedson6503 Um, what the heck dude?
@@nedson6503 Sounds more like the cult is possessive and intolerant.
We are believing Jesus to Free her in His Authority over evil. Amen!!!
Sounds like my ex husband. He lead me to distrust my parents and family and isolated me from them. Luckily I got out of that marriage!
I was gonna say they sound like gaslighting narcissists only incorporated
Narcissistic abuse and cults work very, very similarly. In large part, cults form around a highly narcissistic personality, such as a person with narcissistic personality disorder or antisocial personality disorder.
I had two guys come up to me talking about mother God etc and they wanted to do a Bible study at my home and I said no thank you I know Jesus saved me. 🙏
Very nice🤗
Did you celebrate Easter? Eat ham? Go to Easter sunrise service?
Jesus has nothing to do with those
No my daughter was not feeling well so we stayed home
Whew, saved yourself from worshiping the pagan sun god Tammuz (nimrod incarnate). Tammuz is the son of Ishtar/isis (lady of 10,000 names), the queen of heaven (statue of Liberty) and king Nimrod (molech/baal).
Tammuz was killed by a wild boar when he was 40. His death is marked by Ash Wednesday when a “t” is marked on the forehead. Ishtar instituted 40 days of weeping. Ham is eaten on Easter Sunday and bread is baked to the queen of heaven and Everyone worshiped the sun.
Ishtar is the goddess of fertility and war. Rabbits and chicken eggs.....o won’t even get into the pagan “easter egg hunts”
Everything I speak is back in truth. The Bible confirms it. We’ve been so deceived.
2 Thessalonians 2:9-12
9 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie, 10 and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12 and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.
This is heartbreaking and as a single parent I have an awareness now of what I am up against in this world.. (not that i was unaware) ... groups like this prey on the vulnerable .. praying that the Lord continues to draw this father near to Him..
Single Mom here too...
It's tough, especially when my oldest has been living just with Dad for almost 2 years... I have to very deliberately not freak out. I can so easily panic and forget that God loves him, God wants him to love Him again, and I just have to trust Him. Simple words, but a hard road to walk in my heart. 😣
Stay tough, Mama. ⚓
This is just a beautiful example of the Holy Spirit working through Mike. Letting this man’s story be told about how his daughter was spiritually abused, but also ministering to him so that he keeps seeking after God. Love this work you’re doing, Mike. So beautiful. 💜
right?? the after-math one-on-one discussion trying to address the man's personal needs is my favourite 🥰
I know it’s beating a dead horse, but sheesh...I can almost feel the Satanic evil through my screen just hearing about this cult. Heartbreaking.
I believe that feeling is 100% trustworthy.
Ironically, the WMSCG would say the same thing about your beliefs.
@@mrmaat that's why we never trust our feelings. We look to the word of God as our ultimate authority and standard. Such a sad story this was.
Yeah when he started talking about what they did to his daughter I honestly felt uneasy. So scary how demonic it is
@@SquishyyyBeaner
I met people from this cult before and some of them are very persuasive. They literally walk through malls looking for well dressed younger people to convert. If a person is old, or looks poor or homeless they avoid them. Tells you what their true motivation is for converting people to their ideology.
Praying for the end of this "church," his daughter's protection & for his faith!
Amen you know God is still the creator of all and we acknowledge this all the time when we pray
We must not forget that HE has a plan
this video is false information, don’t believe the lies from this wicked video
I can only immagine the heart break this dad is going through! Lets pray for him and his doughter, coz God is able to deliver!!! In Jesus Name!
Please pray for my sister. She’s started going to this church 4 years ago. She was approached at her university. My mom and I have tried to speak to her but she won’t listen. I even showed her one of pastor Mike’s videos and she said that everything he said was wrong and that he was blaspheming and she said that she won’t watch anymore of his videos. I have been praying for her and I know that God is bigger but if you guys would pray for her as well I would really appreciate it.
May Mary lead your sister away from this heresy and bring her to her Son, Jesus.
Peace
I’ll pray.
I am praying for my friend, she's in Shincheonji HWPL another cult
When ppl are apart of a culture that's the worse thing u can do the best way is to support her listen allow her to feel freedom of speech and openess or she will draw in with the cult more and go into extreme isolation and you will never reach her
@@econs999 mary?? You don't pray to mary, that's ridiculous.
I was studying at school and had a 45 minute conversation with one of there missionaries and I didn’t even know until later. I thank God that he kept pulling obscure Bible verses out of the back of my mind that I would have never remembered without his help to combat the man with!
This was an amazing interview, this man started to do research, to save his daughter from a cult, and ends up doubting his own beliefs. This is a very powerful interview.
Pretty sure the doubt was there previous. Pretty sure her cult following is a symptom. Wondering if grades meant more than her understanding of the only book that matters in the end?
I just attended a service and was not aware that this "church of God" was like this. A friend brought me, and she's genuine in her involvement.
They were based in a house, since they're in the process of looking for a building.
I was immediately approached by a "sister" (not a nun) who began to explain that the true Christians are supposed to honor the sabbath on Saturday and that only them and 1 other denomination follow this. I was then told that all other denominations are "of the enemy. Then we went downstairs to the basement for the services and I was given a head covering (a veil) and the service began. The men and women were separated. There was an Asian man on the screen preaching in Korean at the same time as the English service played, I assumed translating since the leaders were asian but spoke English perfectly. Then they started singing from a book called "new songs" (I think) and a few times I saw a name or a word I didn't recognize that started with an A that they were clearly worshiping by the surrounding text. (I learned through TH-cam videos after that this is the name of mother God.)
Then they all welcomed me as a new sister to the congregation and everyone turned around and started doing a welcoming "dance" with their hands while they repeated that they loved me.
It was all kind of scary. The men were not friendly with me and rarely made eye contact while the women appeared to love bomb me.
I mean no disrespect to my friend. I love her but I had to honestly admit that I would continue to look for a church that "felt right" before committing to anything. 😮
This is the same thing that I experienced. I didn't know they church was like this either... I did not like it, then put on the spot with the welcome..."We love you. We love you 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻all eyes on me 👀
Watching you gently witness to this sweet daddy at the end was wonderful. Praying for his heart to believe through the Spirit’s power.
Ex member of the WMSCOG here! When I left, I had doubts. I actually came back after a few month hiatus. But I just realized no. This is wrong. 4 years wasted. Almost dropped college too. Since I left then all I had was hatred and ptsd. Then ended with loneliness, isolation and su!c!dal thoughts. Now I'm just empty inside. It has been over a year by now.
Greetings from the Philippines.
Make more of these please. Mike's and GreatLighStudios' vids enlightened me to leave.
I'm not coming back. I also am not going to join any church or religious group anymore.
Praying for your healing, hugs.
I was raised in a cult like sect until 17 years of age. I feel your pain!
Don't let this discourage you from seeking the Truth. Only Jesus Christ can heal and save you friend. He is real and he did die for your sins. I encourage you to research for yourself and believe in him.
Please please
Don't let this close your mind from the true and living God..read the bible for your self. May God open your heart and blesses you.
Good for you. Religions prey on people to amass money and power for those at the top.
I also was in a cult like this, they called themselves the end-time church. This is in my country, Suriname. My friend invited me. They could tell me about my past very well and they could read your mind which made me think they were true prophets. I did notice some strange things they did or said where I thought: "this is not from Christ". But they always said that when you doubt the prophet of Christ you will be punished by God, so I didn't question them about the strange things I noticed. I invited my mom, brother and a friend also. And my friend who invited me also invited his parents and siblings. My mom and brother only went once,but my friends parents went almost every service. At the beginning everything seemed good, because they could state everything from the bible, make it seem like they did miracles and prophecy very well. But later on they started putting their door on lock, saying that if someone wants to enter that person has to be screened first otherwise that person would bring evil spirits inside the church. They did say that they were the only church where God is, the only one going to heaven, so we had to bring everyone to this church to be saved. But everyone we bring has to be screened first and cleansed from evil spirits. They made you believe that anyone not from that church has evil spirits. I remember one day I would feel a horrible pain like something was painfully squeezing my heart and I wasn't the only one who felt it that day. The prophets felt it also and one prophet said that God was very angry at us, because we weren't connected with Him. They would use fear and always say that God is angry with you, so you had to follow exactly what the prophets told you, otherwise God will punish you. I now believe that it actually really was an evil spirit that squeezed our hearts and not God being angry with us. God will never hurt anyone, even if you disobey Him. God is love and He loves. It is not true that God hurts people. We should get a real relationship with Jesus and we will see how much God truly loves us. . I used to get a ride from a family to church, but one day they must have left early, because I waited for them half a day but I never saw them. Later on that day I received a message from them saying they were already in church. I cried to God asking Him why He made me miss that day in church, because I believed that God was only in that church, so if I didn't go that day, then I missed being with God that day. And I thought that I did something wrong, that's why God didn't want to see me that day and that's why He made miss the ride to church that day. I noticed that the friend who first invited me wasn't at a church a few days, so I sent him a message, telling him what happened and that I was sad I missed church that day. He told me to come to his house because he wants to tell me personally why he didn't attend the last days. So I went and he told me every behind the scenes things the "prophets" of that church did to make it seem like the Holy Spirit is talking to them, while they were just mind-reading and guessing and so many other things. And as he told me I started realizing that I did see the red flags,but I ignored them, because I didn't want to doubt the so called "prophets of God" and bring judgement upon myself. And if you tell them that you don't want to go to that church anymore they will tell you that you will go straight to hell and demons will come and make you sick and make you lose your mind. That's what they did to my friend and he got really sick and did almost die, but his parents prayed by his bed every day and night. That's why he didn't attend the church those last days. He was lying in bed, very very ill because they cursed him that this will happen. So I immediately blocked everyone of that church from my social media and whatsapp and I never went to that church again. I disappeared silently you could say. I didn't want to give them a chance to curse me also. When I came home from my friend after he told me about them I told my mom about it and she thanked God, because she said that she already saw the red flags that day she attended that church with me and when she attended her own church conference she saw the parents of my friend who invited me and she talked to them about the church where I and their son were going and they told her immediately that it was a cult, but they went undercover, acting like they believed them just to take their son out of that church. And my mom said to them that they should let their son help me get of that church also, because she doesn't know how to get me out and maybe I will listen to their son. And they all prayed for us for God to guide us. So I realized that God didn't hate me, but He loves me and that's why He made me miss the ride to church that day. And it's the prayer of our parents that got us out. And to this day I am more a believer in Christ than ever. I know the true Holy Spirit guides me. I opened the bible that day and this is what I read: For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Matthew 24:24. I knew that was the Holy Spirit telling me that I belonged to the very elect and that Jesus loves me and that I got deceived by those false prophets, but God saved me. So to this father and every other parent who lost their kid to a cult I would say: keep praying for your kids and trust in Jesus Christ. Keep praying, don't give up. Jesus Christ will get them out of that church. He loves all of us. He saves all of us. All praise to the most High living God! Hallelujah, Amen!
Looking at these comments, I am amazed at how many people have come into contact with this cult. Blessings to those who got out before it was too late and may the real God, our Lord and Savior save those who have been deceived
Very sad story. I believe we are living in last days, satan is working hard to deceive, he know his time is short.
Praying for his family 🙏
2 Thessalonians 2:9-12
9 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie, 10 and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12 and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.
So what’s the strong delusion? It’s more subtle than you think.
Blaming Satan when her Christian upbringing was what primed this poor girl to fall for this bs is kind o ironic.
When the guy said "that's when we got scared.."
I thought to myself, don't get scared.. get on your knees instead (and pray daily for your lost child).
Exactly!
Lol you people. You would be just as scared as anyone. Self righteous people goodness
@@BlessedBeJESUSCHRIST I know you might think that I am being self-righteous based on how my sentence might sound to you, but I am not trying to be self-righteous. I would fear, that would be my knee-jerk reaction, it is in every situation, but I suppress that fear because I end up making things worse, doing what my flesh says to do, even though it looks right in my own eyes.
I suppress the fear reaction because I cling to the words God says multiple times throughout scripture of do not fear.. and I remember hearing another father's testimony very similar to this guy with his daughter, a guy in my church. And he said he obeyed God at his word and chose not to fear and just keep praying for his daughter and after a year or 2 she turned around, because when he would try to talk to his daughter it made her wall up and not listen even more. He was getting the opposite results trying to get to his daughter on his own.
So long story short.. I said that because I am wanting to live by faith to not fear.
As a parent of a teenager, I'm always praying about my concerns for influences in my son's life. I can't imagine what I'd do to someone who corrupted my child like this. I pray I'm not confronted with this because I don't know that I'd have the restraint I'm seeing from other parents.
I think part of the restraint comes from the recognition of the part their child plays in the whole thing
All you can do is keep planting the seeds of solid biblical doctrine. Always let it proceed from your lips. It can make the difference.
Teach your kids about the cults, then they will know the falsehood before it comes knocking.
As someone who was once a teen (lol) and stayed strong in the faith despite those fragile years, I’d say the best thing they can learn at that age is apologetics and exposure to other worldviews through the lens of Christ. If your son is already learning that, he’s probably going to do just fine!
I think this shows how important it is to educate and equip our children to be able to recognise cults before they get wrapped up in them.
As a Christian for nearly 30 years, I am frightened and disappointed in myself for not knowing about this cult. Thank you so much for these videos.
Shincheonji HWPL (Mt ZION) Another cult works in the same way and more dangerous
He needs faith In Jesus and the Holy Spirit if he’s to help rescue his daughter from the clutches of satan.
that's the hunch I'm getting too. unsaved people will never score any points against well prepared cult members.
Faith is a gift of God.
Wipers of the Love God! Is for the weary soul......Christ crucified!
I had a similar situation... I was part of a cult and my mom and my sister basically made some comments the I kept thinking about. And finally I realized what I was studying was scary bad. I prayed a lot for truth and I started listening to mike and vocab Malone about stuff. Praise God I got out. But now i educate people about what I’ve learned because I’m very blessed that I got out. Thanks Mike!
I would say never place your faith in man though, including Mike. And really study the Bible yourself too. But yes, so glad you got out of a cult. We’re all flawed so we have to pray and talk to God.
Praise God you got out.
I’ve also had a similar situation. The biggest part of it is making you believe they’re the only ones that have it right. I was convinced all other denominations were wrong about Jesus and salvation
@@hunterklise9337 scary place to be.
Which cult if i may ask? I was raised in the two by twos, started by William Irvine and Edward cooney, which is a less extreme cult than the jw's but more secretive than the jw's because the two by twos have no printed literature and no visible online presence.
I've noticed every single cult has said virtually the same thing. Works based salvation, strict sabbath, conspiracy theories, isolation. But the doctrine is literally identical just remixed and called under different names.
Like Easter. Cause that has nothing to do with Jesus.
I’m not into Tammuz sun worship.
I had a lengthy conversation with one yesterday. The man was in this "church" for 9 years and unwilling to even consider that he was wrong. Calling his beliefs wrong, heretical, or a cult reinforces, in their mind, what Jesus said about being persecuted when you follow Him. The entire conversation was really sad, unsettling and seemingly hopeless for opening his eyes to the truth. I believe the only way for the wool over their eyes to be removed is through fervent prayer.
Yeah thats the same with my girlfriend who unfortunately got manipulated by this cult. ALl you can do is just be patient and try to plant any seeds of truth when you talk to these people. They completely cut off any other thoughts that are different from the group. completely possessed by the churches ideology.
You can't fight evil with knowledge! You gotta rebuke evil in the Name of Jesus!
These videos help bring awareness. So many are naive that these cults even exist today. They think that these cults were a 70s or 80s thing. Keep up the videos to keep bringing awareness, it could save many lives!
Mike, I am from Mumbai, I was also struggling with my faith and what to believe and what not to believe. There are so many people that say different doctrines. All I understood is I wanted to follow the bible. One day ony way home I met two women who asked me if I was a Christian, I agreed but I don't belong to any particular church. They asked me about these same things and if they could come visit me for bible studies. I welcomed them over and during the study they talked about the earthly family and there is the same heavenly mirror copy in heaven. I found that weird. I told them I never heard about such things. I do read the bible and told them the things I understand. After the session they told me can I come again tomorro , so I welcomed them. They told me that they were from the church of God, which I had never heard of. It so happened that they have not turned up since that day. I do not make an attempt to reach out these people. I keep searching for truth and came across this testimony of yours. I am so glad I did. I feel Yeshua is always guiding me in some way or the other to search for truth. Thank you through Yeshua for leading me to this.🙏🙏🙏 Praise to Yeshua
Mike, I absolutely loved to witness how you gently and pastorally ministered to this wounded dad and honest seeker. That unanounced extramile was an inspired glory lap.
Mike Winger is one of the humblest kindest patient and yet the most knowledgeable Christians Ive ever witnessed. Never once have I heard him say anything out of pride, frustration or ambition. He’s a real inspiration me.
This tells me the importance of teaching critical thinking, scepticism and evidence based conclusions.
And also apologetics?
Totally agree Simon. Thank you.
One lady gently gave me a pamphlet and invited me to check her church out. I told her I am a Christian and we both started discussing. She seemed very hardcore religious which I didn't mind. I sort of like apologetics. I told her the world is longing for Jesus's return right now. She mentioned that Jesus came back in 1947. Was she for real? That's when I realized she belongs to a cult. I googled and was shocked to see her messiah was a Korean man who died. The irony. I am Korean and I thought it was hilarious (and sad) that so many Koreans can claim to be the 2nd coming of Christ. I remember in the 90's Rev Moon (Unification Church) claimed the same thing.
Wow. This just totally brought me to tears and I am praying for this sweet father, his family, and his daughter. I sense that his heart is seeking Truth & God is writing this story to bring glory and beauty from ashes. Such a gut-wrenching thing, but I see God's hand in this! Thank you Mike. God is amazing!
:( I hate this manipulative crap. Young people with no understanding being taken advantage of by psychopaths. There are so many snares in life, woe unto them that put them into the world. That's one reason why I believe in God, there has to be some ultimate justice for this kind of stuff.
Amen
Preparing children with the truth is crucial. They will be better equipped to recognize lies.
I strongly think that families should be reading the Bible together. It should be part of family life, like having dinner together. At least when the child is young. But maybe also as adults.
If families put as much effort into studying the Bible as they did helping with homework for school, etc. then kids would really know it well. And I don’t mean reading the Bible and memorizing verses. But, actually discussing openly what a passage meant and what the time period and cultural significance and what archeological evidence there is for the Bible, how science supports the Bible, etc.
If parents taught their kids every day about these topics in depth in an open discussion and as a family they all learn together then they wouldn’t be so fragile in their faith and understanding.
@@narnia1233 True. Faith and understanding will protect a person from the lies of the world.
@@narnia1233 100% agree; couldn't have said it better.
Im from Sri Lanka. A foreign couple came to my home, who has learnt my language, who spoke it fluently, tried to get me to this mother worship church. They prove from the Bible that there is a mother god in heaven who is in control. They referred from Book of Revealation. In my spirit i knew they are evil and chased them out. They dont try to convert non christians. They target Christians. Holy Spirit revealed to me their lies
This story is heart breaking !!!! Shame on this cult! And I hope this girl gets help
Pastor Mike I’m in tears, 1st bc of David’s daughter and the damage this evil group has done to their family my heart breaks for them, and 2nd listening to you two reason together and how loving you were to show him Jesus and God. May the seeds take root and May their whole family be healed soon. Please God help them.
Hi miss, I read your comment, and I gotta tell you that Jesus IS God.
My heart goes out to this father. Because we are living in the last days satan is using whatever tactic he has to because he knows his time is running out.
Never give up, pray for her and get into a spirit filled church have your church family pray for her. If you don't give up, God won't give up.
This breaks my heart💔 May God strike the leaders of this cult but let he or she that will believe the truth escape. I pray for this man's daughter and him and his wife. May God comfort this family.
Yes, amen.
This is so crazy because I got approached by someone from this cult a few years back and didn't even know it was the same as the Mother God thing. I was reading my Bible somewhere in public on a nice day at a table outside, and I prayed that if there was someone God wanted me to witness to, that they would see me reading the Bible and come ask me something about it. Not long after I prayed that, this girl approached me and said she was asking people questions for a school project. Then she started talking to me about how the book of Revelation predicted world war 2. It was a lot of very complicated stuff about Revelation and end times. At this point I did not know what group she was a part of or that it was a cult. She said they were called Church of God, and I had no clue what that was. She asked me if I wanted to meet her again for a Bible study. So I said yes, still kind of wondering if this was a regular Christian group. Right before we were going to meet, she called and said she had brought another person from her church with her, and asked if that was okay. I said sure. So we met in the same place, and that's when I realized how off their teachings were. They explained to me that all churches outside their own are wrong because they do not observe the passover and other feasts/ceremonies. They said communion is actually called the passover and must be observed at a particular time of year, and if not that person is not really saved. They also said baptism is necessary for salvation. Then they said that all of us lived in Heaven before we came to earth, and Adam and Eve's sin took place in Heaven. After that all humans were kicked out of Heaven and our memories were wiped, so we have no remembrance of our previous time in Heaven. I thought this was very similar to Mormonism. By the grace of God I had prepared myself beforehand and prepared some verses to refute certain things I'd heard from the first conversation. They wanted to meet with me again a third time, and I said yes because I really wanted to evangalize. Not saying it's wise to keep meeting with members from a group like this, but I ended up saying yes. This time halfway through one of the girls said she had to leave. Then a completely different girl approached us, and was like "Hey, watcha guys talking about?" Then she explained that she was from their church and just happened to be working nearby and see us there. I honestly don't believe it was just a coincidence, I think it was planned. So this other girl sat down and started debating with me too. This meeting was where they talked about how the Sabbath is actually on Saturday and that it was changed due to pagan influence, and if you went to church on Sunday you were actually worshipping the devil. Thankfully God gave me the right words to say where I was able to refute their points. I don't think they were convinced, but after that they stopped contacting me. I texted the girl I first met and invited her to my Christian group on campus. She didn't come, but I believe God put her in my path for a reason. They seemed like lovely people who honestly believed what they were saying. Please pray for these girls. 🙏 But it's crazy all this other stuff I had no clue about, because they don't tell you up front. They didn't say anything about this Korean guy or even the God the mother concept. It's like they're hiding it from you because you'll instantly know it's a cult if they say those things up front. They want to make it seem like just true Christianity. They take a lot of verses out of context too. I think they are hoping to run into people who don't really know their Bibles or aren't sure what they believe so they can be more easily convinced. They are also around the college I graduated from, going around on campus and trying to recruit people by inviting them to Bible studies. I also know of a friend of a friend who got involved and was trying to convert my friend. She went to the group itself and asked them for information about what they believed, like how regular churches have a mission statement that lists their core beliefs. They got really sketchy about it and had nothing to give her. They also told her not to look up stuff online about them because it was not true. If any group has to use lies and deceit and hide things from you, that's an instant red flag. I will be praying for this man's daughter that she will come out of this cult and find her way to true Christianity. 🙏❤
A JW came to my house and said do you want to study, I said no, they then said "okay take this literature", I said "no thanks", they asked again I still said "no", that old man was shocked lol. All I said was "no"
Those are the worst
Eh I had jw come to my door and I told them no and they left 😆😂
Open mindedness is dangerous. To quote a gsme: an open mind is a castle without guards and open gates.
Jesus is the gatekeeper for His flock. He does not leave it unguarded.
She believes that if she shares any doubts she’s may be having with you, she will be risking your salvation. This is what keeps many cult members from reaching out to family for help.
I remember feeling completely trapped because I felt that if I shared my struggles with anyone outside the group their salvation would be lost and I couldn’t share all of my struggles with anyone in the group without getting into trouble. I felt very alone.
Thanks for sharing this perspective. I can see that could be a real fear.
This makes a lot of sense
A very valuable perspective. Never heard of it before. Thank you very much for sharing this! 🙏🏼
It’s true I remember other members being told that were responsible for outsiders going to hell, because they allowed outsiders to know they weren’t happy in the group. We had to keep up appearances.
I have a niece and nephew that are in this cult raising their twin sons in it. It’s so sad how brainwashed they are and how fast it all happened.
I lost my mom to this cult and she cut ties with me and her grandchildren because I didn’t want to go to her Church and I even shared your videos and she blocked me
I’m so sorry 😞
I’m sorry Destiny. That’s so hard. :(
I’m so sorry. This cult is worst then Scientology
Pray for the demonic doctrines to lose their power in your Mom's life. Prayer is the only thing you can rely on to get your Mom out. I have seen prayer work tremendous miracles.
The top leaders of this cult are leading people to hell. Kim joo-cheol and Zahng Gil-jah will burn in the lake of fire lest the repent and denounce this blasphemous and idolatrous abomination.
Some people from this church came to my door years ago, before I got married and when I was younger Christian. I thought that I was being a good Christian letting them in because I was naive at the time. They took me through a myriad of scriptures and even on that first day, they told me about God the mother. Something was not right, so I told them that I would have to pray about it and they asked if they could call me the next day. After they left I told my boyfriend, now husband, and he was like, "dude they are a cult." We did research and found out about their beliefs, and I realized that yes, this church was a cult. One of the followers called me back the next day and I told her, you are in a cult. She didn't really want to listen, so I emailed her scriptures backing up the truth about Jesus Christ and the gospel. I never heard back from her.
They have no interrest in the truth. Delusions are comfortable for them. Pray for them.
They ambush me every time I go to the supermarket (and even the mall), they are EVERYWHERE, and super persistent.
@@rmercedes971 Just say "FLEE FROM ME DEMON!!" I bet they leave you alone. Haha if they keep pursuing say, "Get behind me Satan" "I rebuke you in Jesus name". "I bind and loose you to hell demon". I guarantee their true nature of the angry demon posessing them will rear its ugly face. Keep saying God rebuke you.... if you dont wanna say all the other stuff :)
@@carolina_grace5721 My goodness, that would actually be hilarious 😂... I don’t think I could though, I just turn them down politely cuz I never want to hurt anyone’s feelings.
Only the Holy Spirit can open the eyes of this poor young lady. It is important to pray that the Lord intervene when all else fails. Those people laid a strong hold on her and only God can break it. God bless you for sharing. May the Lord open her eyes.
Mike, as I watched this video, I couldn't shake the feeling that Mr. Erdman needs to deal with his own beliefs and soul. He is going to need Jesus's help to then save his daughter. He is like the person on a plane that is in trouble, he is attempting to put the mask on his child before himself. He will be overtaken, and both could be lost!!
I pray he seeks Jesus!
My aunt is going through the same thing with her daughter. My cousin won’t listen to anyone and is very explosive and argumentative when she is questioned about what she says that she gets from the church. However, she is really vocal about attacking biblical truth that she believes is not “interpreted” correctly. It could be written plainly in the Bible but she holds on to her beliefs. I just pray that God opens her eyes and delivers her.
Learn to pray from the court of Heaven BUT you must be strong spiritually to do this because devils do retaliate. I experienced that hugely when I prayed in that way over my nephew, who had a very bad bloodline from his dad's family. It has cost my family hugely. But God gives the victory. Yet you still must be very strong or you may be attacked in a severe way you aren't prepapred for. Devils do retaliate from those kinds of prayers because it pulls the person's life from destruction.
This almost made me cry praying for him and his family.
This is so scary. It makes me understand the scripture where people are telling Christ, Didn’t we prophecy in your name and cast out devils in your name,” and Jesus replies, “Get away from me evildoers. I never knew you.” They also seem to completely ignore the commandment to honor one’s parents.
If you’d honor Mother-and Father, you should also Remember the Sabbath Day to keep it HOLY...
I am scared...I Grieved Him and was so DECEIVED into me flesh and don't know If God will restore me and help.....I shouldn't have just uo and left my dad church TOP...for nobody
Jesus’ declaration that He came to fulfill the Law and the Prophets, not to abolish them, obviously contains two statements in one. There is something Jesus did and something He did not do. At the same time, Jesus emphasized the eternal nature of the Word of God.
Jesus goes out of His way to promote the authority of the Law of God. He did not come to abolish the Law, regardless of what the Pharisees accused Him of. In fact, Jesus continues His statement with a commendation for those who teach the Law accurately and hold it in reverence: “Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven” (Matthew 5:19).
Note the qualities that Jesus attributes to the Word of God, referenced as “the Law and the Prophets”: 1) The Word is everlasting; it will outlast the natural world. 2) The Word was written with intent; it was meant to be fulfilled. 3) The Word possesses plenary authority; even the smallest letter of it is established. 4) The Word is faithful and trustworthy; “everything” it says will be accomplished. No one hearing Jesus’ words in the Sermon on the Mount could doubt His commitment to the Scriptures.
Consider what Jesus did not do in His ministry. In Matthew 5:17, Jesus says that He did not come to abolish the Law and the Prophets. In other words, Jesus’ purpose was not to abrogate the Word, dissolve it, or render it invalid. The Prophets will be fulfilled; the Law will continue to accomplish the purpose for which it was given (see Isaiah 55:10-11).
Next, consider what Jesus did do. Jesus says that He came to fulfill the Law and the Prophets. In other words, Jesus’ purpose was to establish the Word, to embody it, and to fully accomplish all that was written. “Christ is the culmination of the law” (Romans 10:4). The predictions of the Prophets concerning the Messiah would be realized in Jesus; the holy standard of the Law would be perfectly upheld by Christ, the strict requirements personally obeyed, and the ceremonial observances finally and fully satisfied.
Jesus Christ fulfilled the Prophets in that, in His first coming alone, He fulfilled hundreds of prophecies concerning Himself (e.g., Matthew 1:22; 13:35; John 19:36; Luke 24:44). Jesus Christ fulfilled the Law in at least two ways: as a teacher and as a doer. He taught people to obey the Law (Matthew 22:35-40; Mark 1:44), and He obeyed the Law Himself (John 8:46; 1 Peter 2:22). In living a perfect life, Jesus fulfilled the moral laws; in His sacrificial death, Jesus fulfilled the ceremonial laws. Christ came not to destroy the old religious system but to build upon it; He came to finish the Old Covenant and establish the New.
Jesus came not to destroy the Law and the Prophets but to fulfill them. In fact, the ceremonies, sacrifices, and other elements of the Old Covenant were “only a shadow of the good things that are coming-not the realities themselves” (Hebrews 10:1). The tabernacle and temple were “holy places made with hands,” but they were never meant to be permanent; they were but “copies of the true things” (Hebrews 9:24, ESV). The Law had a built-in expiration date, being filled as it was with “external regulations applying until the time of the new order” (Hebrews 9:10).
In His fulfillment of the Law and Prophets, Jesus obtained our eternal salvation. No more were priests required to offer sacrifices and enter the holy place (Hebrews 10:8-14). Jesus has done that for us, once and for all. By grace through faith, we are made right with God: “He forgave us all our sins, having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us; he has taken it away, nailing it to the cross” (Colossians 2:14).
There are some who argue that, since Jesus did not “abolish” the Law, then the Law is still in effect-and still binding on New Testament Christians. But Paul is clear that the believer in Christ is no longer under the Law: “We were held in custody under the Law, locked up until faith should be revealed. So the Law became our guardian to lead us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian” (Galatians 3:23-25, BSB). We are not under the Mosaic Law but under “the law of Christ” (see Galatians 6:2).
If the Law is still binding on us today, then it has not yet accomplished its purpose-it has not yet been fulfilled. If the Law, as a legal system, is still binding on us today, then Jesus was wrong in claiming to fulfill it and His sacrifice on the cross was insufficient to save. Thank God, Jesus fulfilled the whole Law and now grants us His righteousness as a free gift. “Know that a person is not justified by the works of the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law, because by the works of the law no one will be justified” (Galatians 2:16).
God told Moses to build the ark of the covenant to house the 10 commandments written on two tables of stone,four on one tablet of stone and the other six on the other tablet of stone.
When someone says the 10 Commandments was nailed to the cross in the Old Testament and we don’t have to keep them anymore the following is what they don’t understand because they have not studied.
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And it came to pass, (when Moses) had made an end of writing the words of this law in a book, until they were finished,
25 That Moses commanded the Levites, which bare the ark of the covenant of the LORD, saying,
26 Take this (book of the law,) and put it
(in the 👉🏾SIDE 👈🏾of the ark) of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee.
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THIS
Is what was nailed to the cross:
Colossians 2:14 (KJV)
Blotting out the HANDWRITING 👈🏾 of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
The book of the law written by Moses that contained all of the ordinances and rules that governed the Community of people he was managing..
👉🏿NOT Gods Ten Commandments....
After studying we see that there are TWO covenant laws ; one that Moses wrote and the 10 Commandments in which God wrote with his own finger;
Kept 👉🏾INSIDE 👈🏾The Ark of the Covenant.
******Exodus 25:16
“And thou shalt put into the ark the testimony which I shall give thee.”
People who are not studying misunderstand that there were TWO covenant laws associated with the ark of the covenant and that one of them was nailed to the cross. One placed the👉🏾 SIDE 👈🏾
(THE BOOK OF THE LAW)
And we no longer have to keep those laws contained in the book of the law.
The ark of the covenant still contained Gods 10 Commandments law written on stone that was given to Moses and still stands today as heaven and earth’s constitution from God.
SCRIPTURE SAYS I AM THE LORD, I CHANGED NOT!
The 10 Commandments remain an obligation to (professed Christians ) who follow Jesus Christ...(and the Bible says so in scripture ;
( therefore there 👉🏿REMAINS 👈🏿a Sabbath rest TO THE PEOPLE OF GOD)
HEBREWS 4-4-9
SCRIPTURE says: ( In the new testament by the way) those who say they know ME and don’t keep my Commandments are a LIAR and the TRUTH is NOT in them....
THATS BIBLE!
Lastly the word fulfilled NEVER meant
( do OR done away with)
@@polishedbrother which sabbath? The real sabbath or the one the Catholics ordained as the sabbath?
My mother became a JW late in life. Now my brother is. Very similar in the brain washing and to sever them from family. But our current political system is doing the same thing to half our country
Politics is very divisive.
Divisional.
Wow, I remember these folks from college. They seemed very aggressive (in a cunning way) to me so I stayed away, but they definitely knew how to bend scripture. I wasn't a believer at that time but I was so avoidant of scripture that it saved me from these folks.
Thanks for the video on this cult again Mike. It really helps. Im really holding onto hope that my girlfriend will soon leave this church. Shes been brainwashed for years now. Idk if I should just cut it off and leave or be patient and bite my tongue. They dont listen to anything.
My husband has been in for over a decade🤮 it’s awful and so heartbreaking
This is exactly like parental alienation .. and the officials have said it does not exist. In the meantime we have lost our children, our relationship and position as parent, and they have lost half of their family, half of who they are and their childhood history
Wow. This is so true. Btw, I’m the guy in the video. Have you ever heard of New Jersey Safe and Sound? If they had it where I live I would have never lost my kid.
@@Wishyouwerehere435 Oh my. Hello. Your story is heartbreaking. No, I've never heard of it. I'm in UK. What you described .. put in context of parents and family .. the guy doesnt stand a chance. But it happens to women too. It's insane. It's so hard being parent and not having the ability to parent isnt it .. a certain numbness is created in you after so long goes by. They totally believe everything theyve been told. Narcissists .. these people .. its demonic