Kneeless carpet stretcher does it work
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ธ.ค. 2021
- In this video i put the kneeless stretcher to the test to see if it does what it is intended for.
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I use mine on every carpet job. The only time I touch my Knee kicker now is on a set of steps. Used on an ANGLE it 100% does get a good stretch. I use it for my set walls and closets and halls. Still pole stretcher my main stretches but this has replaced the knee kicker for me. Excellent tool!!!
Great job on the review Ruben!
That is a good point that you made, with large rooms you split the room in half and stretch each end seperately. In fact, when I do really large rooms, I split the room into quarters, to get a good stretch on it.
Also, I have been using the Kneeless for many years and all I use to protect the pins is a piece off 2" styro foam on each end. Great review for a great tool!!!!
Thanks buddy and I absolutely love the tool
I looked at it and checked it out seven or8 years ago wanted to get it but wasn't too sure I'm glad you did a video thank you
Welcome baby I promise you I will not be without one again, this is wonderful to tootto have
Excellent video! Just want to confirm that the Kneeless is a top quality tool, and "does exactly what it's supposed to do".. It's worth every penny..
It is definitely worth every penny it does not take the place of a power stretcher It only takes the place of the kicker
Where do I get one
Thank you for the description of how the tool works, especially keeping it at an angle. That makes sense.
The only thing missing from the video is taking this installation from where it's at and stretching it with a power stretcher to show how much farther it would stretch.
I totally agree with you about using it for hooking the carpet on the tacks, prior to using a real stretcher with poles.
I think you are being kind to the guy that created the kneeless stretcher by not using a power stretcher afterwards to show the difference between the two.
There's no way you can compare the stretch between the two tools however I am totally in agreement with you about using that tool to hook the carpet on the tacks instead of using a kicker.
It looks like a fantastic tool for angled walls and closets.
Thank you for doing the demo it explained a lot about that tool......
...the tool I refer to as a kneeless 'kicker'
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The pole stretcher was invented before action backing. You can over stretch a carpet with a pole. Carpet manufacturers accept kneeless for warranty if done properly. I recently did a stretch and tuck to 3' and a 6' tile edge to finish off the job. Minimum 60 Oz softback plush. With my kneeless i could barely get a 1/4" on the width and needed 3/4". Out to the truck for the poles lol. 5' 4x4 to disperse the weight. Tough at that. Never seen that in newer carpet.
I got mine about 10 years ago love it the new model looks amazing
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Got mine 2 yrs ago !! I love it just wish i had it 26 yrs ago
I appreciate your honest evaluation. I thought you were going to say it would replace a power stretcher. Definitely a good Knee Kicker replacement though.
your welcome
Hey Ruben thank you I will be waiting for those pads you will be making for that kneeless kicker an ordering one from Paul I had one before I loved it for bedrooms but all tools were stolen so back to shopping 😢 you be seeing me on line at your store you pretty soon thank you again ment Pete sorry thanks for mentioning his name bought it 6yrs ago forgot his name
Ment Pete thanks for saying Pete I said Paul sorry
Really hard to get hold of these in the UK and ordered an import similar to this from the US. About three times the cost of Kicker but this looks more effective. Installed my own carpets since moving house during the pandemic when you couldn't get anyone to come and fit a carpet.
Ive used one for 8 years. It's good for full time use in apartment grade carpet. Also good for full time use in residential small rooms. Heavy weight large rooms is when I get the pole stretcher out. The right tool for the right job. Do you need a power stretcher in a closet? NO. Likewise, you have a 30' cut 50oz carpet, break out the power stretcher.
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I haven't used a knee kicker for years after buying this.
Had back and leg problems from using a traditional kicker touch wood no problems so far
Hello,Ruben
Interested in getting a pair of protective covers for the kneeless stretcher . Been checking your web site and can’t find them.
I have a couple sets right now, you can pm me if you want
I wish you would do a demo on the Triforce kicks.
th-cam.com/video/HKi2YcLLaNs/w-d-xo.html
Maxwell Flooring: I have one and it does work.
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thank you for your honest review. I do almost perfect work so a stretcher is a most for me
You’re welcome my friend
Thank you. It IS better than a knee kicker, but it is NOT as good as a power (pole) stretcher. Nice for closets or small areas but it is not the answer to stretching without poles.
Agree 100%
you should do a video on the Roberts minni/crab stretcher! I'd really would like to get your opinion on that tool.👍
I will consider that
Did you ever make any of those protectors for the spike of the kneeles? I bought a kneeles it really needs those guards
I did but I still don’t have them on my website, I will get them someday lol
How would you compare this one to the tri-force? Looking to buy one of them… just not sure which
This is my favorite, Triforce has recently went out of business due to health issues
Hi Ruben I do a lot of carpet repairs, this would be ideal for door strnasition carpet damage for stretching carpet. can these be bought in the UK? If not where are they sold.
kneeless.com/
Is the long teeth necesario in the front??
good demonstration! okay 🙂
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Kneeless is amazing sir, the first stretch can be straight just to hook the pins and give the back head something tight to push off of and stop backwards loss, you angle after first stretch and then I come back and overlap first stretch on my way back because its worthless, as soon as you begin to angle off of hooked carpet is when your actually stretching, 13 feet or so is my max, something bigger or with bubbles the power stretcher comes out
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Just ordered one. Anything that helps me banging my knee on a kicker all day.
So ruben when u lower the handle the head slides foreard
Yes
Are you still selling the protector for the teeth? I couldn’t find it on your website.
I do not have any at the moment but I do plan to make some
Where do I get the rolling red spreader thing?
www.tools4flooring.com/taylor-tools-808-deluxe-e-z-tuck.html
Excellent! May give it a try where in the south are you boys?
Manchester Tennessee
@@FloorsbySouthernboys cool I've got friends in manchester tullahoma and nashville. Need to come pay you boys a visit!
@@flooringtheworld I am in Tullahoma right now working
@@FloorsbySouthernboys He came over from the UK 40 odd years ago! Thought you were from near there as he has same accent as you. I'm gonna see if he can bring me one of those kneeless stretchers when he comes here at Xmas! I been flooring 40 years now and me knees need a rest !
My mates got couple of properties down by tims Ford in Boswells Lane and I think an apartment in tullahoma.
Its an intersting one, as most of us in the uk kick everything unless its a really big room (british standards says over 5m or 16ft3). If its better than a kicker its probably worth its weight in gold in the uk. But ive never seen one
Definitely better than kicking
Must be better than kicking a 6x5 pieces of oaklands in in a plot with no heating on in it for sure if only my sons could get me one for Christmas
Just a thought Rueben...
You have a router now and the holes were a pain to drill in the protector pads. Maybe just rout out the whole teeth pattern instead of trying to drill out each individual tooth.
I thought about that and then I was thinking that the surrounding age would be thin and fragile, this way with individual holes it is almost like a solid chunk of wood that will hold up for a long time, thank you for the recommendation though
Your right, much more sturdy with just the drilled holes.
I use that tool all day. Doesn't matter how long the room. Here's the skinny. Square room 10'×10' one doorway. Soft stretch and lock the corner #1 and go across the doorway to corner #2. Stretch twice hard straight across and lock. Finish the wall and doorway with soft STRAIGHT stretches and lock the whole wall. Go to corner #3( kitty corner from #1) and stretch on the angle hard. Then stretch hard straight away from #2. One more stretch on the 45° and lock. (here's where you do a quick lock and pinch of 2 inches in the middle of last wall to prevent movement from your next stretch) Finish that side wall with one STRAIGHT soft stretch and lock whole wall. Release your 2 inch lock. Hard stretch between #3 & #4 and between #4 & #1 and the 45°(all 3 angles). Hard stretch that wall and lock. Then a hard stretch on the last wall. Lock carpet on all tackless as you go if the wall is complete. I worked clockwise starting from the right as you enter the room... if that helps.
Now pay attention son...this is where your technique needs some love. Less space between your stretching; no more than 3". You keep dragging the carpet on the angle creating unnecessary buckles. Too much angle on your tool. Couple ways to skin the cat here. After the corners are locked you will have 2 walls to stretch hard. You can split the wall by starting in the middle of each wall and work to the corners or do from corner to corner non stop. ALTERNATE your angle on every 3rd stretch and keep your angle lower...just enough for the stretch to bypass the rear head. A quick prestretch and then stretch and hold is a hard stretch. You almost have that down. VERY important you lean back and put your weight on the rear head to achieve a good stretch.(Sometimes I will lift the carpet with my stretcher cuz of bunching) After 15' I would recommend those last 2 walls stretched twice. After 20' 3 times. Most of us would have the 2 soft stretch walls 1/4" up the baseboard so no cutting required. After doing my corners and 2 soft walls I will crease the carpet on the last 2 walls and trim them then stretch. I would install circles around you lol. Although I have the poles, I rarely pull them out. On big rooms soft walls get the final hard stretch until I'm happy. I do repair work and service calls and work out of my mini van. Bad installers keep me in business. Biggest problem is lack of stretching cuz they kick and pad too close to the tackless. I use a hooked knife like the old days and a retractable grey Richard's knife combined with a sharpening stone. Stair tool is for stairs but some like to drag it around the job like an old girlfriend. When I see suicide knives come out, I cringe. I can waterfall a 5' Scarlett O'Hara staircase with double bird cages with no staple gun. Hand stitching w/ latex on the bottom stair and tackless bridges for the perfect uniform sides (envelopes). Still picking up a trick or 2 after all these years.
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Nothing wrong with using that stair tool to put that carpet in
Would this be a good tool for a carpet cleaner looking to add re-stretching? I don't want to mess with a heavy pole stretcher.
@@Matt-Olive-Digital yep. So long as you understand the correct way to stretch. I'm looking at doing some radio advertising for exactly what you do lol. Where are you?
@@daveparkes8539 Portland
Does it leave holes in a short or tight pile carpet ?
I have used it on every kind of carpet pretty much and I have not had any issues at all, even commercial cut pile in churches and pattern Carpet And traditional commercial carpet
Where did you get the protectors for the spikes? Mine didn't come with that.
I made them myself, I will be making more and selling them on my website
@@FloorsbySouthernboys great 👍🏼 I will be watching for them!
Yeah I will be too
Are these covers out yet I could use a couple
@@JorgeSanchez-bx2pb Afraid not man I just have not had the time, I will do my best to get some made up within a couple weeks OK
Donde puedo comprarlo y si lo recomiendas?
Yo la compre maestro y la verdad no me gusto para $400 nomas sirve bien para carpeta delgada en cuartos chicos y closers .nomás la use 3 veces. No saca bien las arrugas
What's the name of that hand tool/ roller tucker nowhere can I get one big dog ??
www.tools4flooring.com/taylor-tools-808-deluxe-e-z-tuck.html
Man thank you. Love watching fellow flooring brothas show up. And show out
@@knackleslapp8593 you’re welcome
It looks like it streaches three inches from the length and width of the room.
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What is the difference between a stinger and this, besides the hole
Except the stinger utilizes the whole power head
And the fact you can use it on a slab
You can get a better stretch with a spike
where can i buy this kicker for stairs
The site is down right now from maintenance but this is the link whenever they get the website running again this is where to purchase
kneeless.com/
@@FloorsbySouthernboys the website does not show anything page does not exist
@@papatoiglesias9857 Yeah that’s what I said, give it a little bit and he’ll have it back again
I just received my kneeless stretcher, I haven't used it yet. My worry is that the spikes are so long it's going to damage some carpets. Is this good for all types of carpet?
I use it on everything even wool, you will get the hang of it
Go around again
I don't like pushing carpet in between strip and base. I Have a hard time trimming. That is why the spreader is the only tool i use.
Gotcha
Why does it sound like its tearing the carpet with every pull. And not just this video. Every video i watched on this tool sounds the same. Thats why i prefer the frog stretched adapter
@@frijolito2123 Haven’t noticed it myself
I wonder if the pins are too long. You can't adjust them like a stretcher or can you?
@@frijolito2123 No you cannot adjust them, however I have not had any issues with the length of the pins, I have not had any issues with this at all i think it is a great tool all the way around
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so if you recommend 100% the KneeLess
Yes
this will be good for cheap streachy backings, but when you go into high end carpets its worthless backing is too stiff and that's where is money is, nowadays even cheap carpet backing is stiff
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I have one it does not work
That's why I don't touch carpet anymore not goign to lie that kicker just isn't worth it. Hard surfaces is a little easier on the body.
Hard surfaces definitely easier
@@FloorsbySouthernboys I just take the small carpet jobs when the shop is really stuck
hearing dude who is recordings nose whistling is fkn killing me
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@@FloorsbySouthernboys lol its ok, the information gained males it worth it lol
Most fitters just smash it on with a bolster and give it a tap here and there thats why you don't see many videos of them stretching a room because they would get slated on youtube
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Pole stretcher is tried and true.
Completely agree, I only use this in place of a kicker
No thanks As an old school installer im sticking to my stretcher with poles !!
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So its not to industry standards yet they want 400usd🤔
If you use it in situations like I talked about in this video it is well worth $400 to never kick a kicker again , I definitely We’ll always have one even if I had about one every few months
That works on concrete?😂
I bought the kneeless because of this video. I'm very disappointed! It only stretches from where the knee sits to the head of the stretcher. It's useless it won't pull ripples out. Its only good to tack back carpets.
If that is the case you are using the toll wrong, look at the videos on the website that you bought it from they will help you use it properly
@@FloorsbySouthernboys i doubt it if im doing it wrong. You should make a video on it. There is no way you can pull ripples from the middle of the room.
@@mcs2431 I have pulled ripples from over 12 feet away with it
@@FloorsbySouthernboys i want to believe you. If you can prove me wrong i would i really appreciate it beecause i cant even pull a pipple from 4ft away. Thanks!
Definitely using wrong lol
Yer nah that's not tight.
Does it work on concrete?
You are correct, I would not use this in the place of a power stretcher
@@alexreacts5585 yes
Then it wrinkles in a month and they pay me to come kick it in. There's a thousand carpet Contraptions out there and none of them work like a knee kicker/ power stretcher and a good old tack hammer. Them power stretcher spikes are trash, all two-way stretchers are junk , and those Robert's wheel tools don't lock the tack strip Nails into the carpet. If you don't got the shoulders to properly rub the tack strip Nails into the carpet and you don't have the knees to kick it then you should be doing something else for work.
Thousand!?😂😂 Not even close. Wrinkles in a month? Probably after YOU installed it. Installed Over 10,000 yds ....no call backs. Dont hate NEW GUY aka "helper/ assistant"
@@clevelandjr623 I've been doing this for 14 years and I make over six figures LOL I own two Vans and I have two crews in my own. Try again
@@clevelandjr623 I literally have a monopoly on Northeast Ohio. You just don't have the knees to use a kicker🤣
@@clevelandjr623 you probably work for Lowe's🤣🤣 I'm a subcontractor homie. We ain't the same
@YTOG. Lowe's dont have installers lil buddy they subcontract through "allied" . I dont install carpet anymore and obviously neither do you using that "knee kicker" lol 😆 typical amateur helper