I really appreciate guys like this dude... y'all make me look like gods gift to carpet repair. Cause anyone who really knows carpet repairs knows that you will be restreching that carpet within a year or so and you can poke holes in the carpet. Not to mention you void any warranty the carpet may have had. Here's a tip. Don't try to cut corners and find ways to get the job done faster because it almost always ends up with the job not being done right. Do it the right way or just don't do it at all. I do not recommend using this video for instructional purposes at all. I learned from a man who has 48 years experience. Trust me cutting corners never works in the long run
As an installer, when the last guy I hired pulled out his stinger, I gave him 2 options. Get it off my jon or find someone else to work for. Not only does this void the warranty, but it can rip the carpet and it jabs holes in the subfloor... I do not recommend this method..
Pretty typical.. insults and belittling is the new fad. Ok, so you got 5 years on me. I'll give ya that, but in my 15 years, I've pulled up a LOT of capet and can always tell when the stinger/spike has been used. I wouldn't be able to do that if there wasn't little holes in the subfloor.. as for your opinions on kickers, I'm right there with ya. It's asinine to beat yourself to death when a good stretcher does the job easier and better. HOWEVER..Do yourself a favor and go over to Google and type in "does using a stinger on stretcher void carpet warranty".. In most cases and through most manufacturers, it does. Now, I'm not going to call you ignorant, stupid or anything else negative because we have way too much negativity in this world, but I am going to say that I am not wrong and I am considered by many different contractors throughout the Carolinas as "the best" flooring (not just carpet) installer around. You do what works for you and I wish you all the best.
@@marcusl8243 LMAO! yea, you're absolutely right. I am full of myself. That tends to happen when you take a lot of pride in what you do, never get called back for repairs and do everything as professionally as possible. Also, when a manufacturer says, "that will void all warranties", well... I just don't do it. That's exactly why I don't use the stinger. You say that the head put holes in the carpet? Yea it does. Slightly larger than a pencil lead, versus larger than the pencil. For the record, I'm not pretending to be "Mr respectful". It's just who I am. I know it sounds crazy but there are those who can discuss things on the internet without being disrespectful. You should try it. You'll get better responses and maybe even learn a few things. We all can still learn and that's ok... moving on. Yes, I may have "ignorance due to lack of experience with the pin", but that's only because when I was taught, I was taught to stretch using the poles. When I started my own business, I looked into the stinger because I'm all about working smarter not harder, but when I learned that it actually does void all warranties and doesn't actually stretch as well as using the poles AND actually does do damage to the subfloor, I decided it's just not for me. BUT, as I said earlier, you do what works for you. If you've never had a claim, good! If the customers never complain, great! Just hope you never have a problem that calls for a 3rd party inspector. Otherwise, you'll most likely be screwed. I'll not be answering anymore of your replies because like the majority, you can't take any kind of criticism, and can't play nice. You have a great day sir, and as I said before, I wish you all the best. 😊
@@lcmwarriorlcm So, does he use it on a concrete floor? The "stinger" doesn't work, it will basically work on wood floors for a very small area to stretch, like a small closet or an area where the stretcher with the foot wont fit. All a manufacturer's rep would have to see is the holes left behind in the backing of the carpet to void any warrantee, and it would be deemed Installer error for not using correct tools for the installation...
It works on concrete just fine, you build a jig with 2x4's if you dont have poles. My dad has used a stinger for 30 years and never had a call back, we win awards for our floors, never use it on real thick cut pile or berber and never over stretch it. It will stretch more than a pole with a good subfloor and you need to know when you're stretching and when you are damaging the floor, its mainly for builder grade carpets with frizzae and trailers or homes with weak walls. It's a life saver if you know what you are doing and there are tons of videos showing it does very little damage to the backing. The head pokes more holes in the carpet than the stinger so why arent you calling that damage?
@@jeffbrownbbccarpetcare never bought it. I'm sticking to poles for now but it looks great for any time of carpet. Hows the stretching for 30ft long? Of triforce?
@@jc-zp1de I clean carpet primarily. I do short stretches to Re stretch. I've seen others use the Tri force and get good results on long runs but I can't speak for myself. I purchased the Tri force kicks which is similar in design to the kneeless kicker. It's designed to work with my junior power head or I guess any Power head. Longest stretch I've done on it was 11 and a 1/2 Feet.
You seem really surprised 😲 there’s two options with poles or without in wood floors and poles for everything else. I don’t use poles ever cause I use frog leg adapter.
@@Spitfire-qx4oe no kidding man, I install 10x the carpet as all these phonie ignorant old heads. My reps have seen me use the pin 100x by now, it's just a myth made up by some stupid old head because he was to ignorant to admit he was wrong. can't accept he was doing it the wrong way for all those years... anyone with any sort of experience with the pin can tell you these idots in the comments lack actual experience and just run with what they heard from uncle scott lmao.
I really appreciate guys like this dude... y'all make me look like gods gift to carpet repair. Cause anyone who really knows carpet repairs knows that you will be restreching that carpet within a year or so and you can poke holes in the carpet. Not to mention you void any warranty the carpet may have had.
Here's a tip. Don't try to cut corners and find ways to get the job done faster because it almost always ends up with the job not being done right. Do it the right way or just don't do it at all. I do not recommend using this video for instructional purposes at all. I learned from a man who has 48 years experience. Trust me cutting corners never works in the long run
As an installer, when the last guy I hired pulled out his stinger, I gave him 2 options. Get it off my jon or find someone else to work for. Not only does this void the warranty, but it can rip the carpet and it jabs holes in the subfloor... I do not recommend this method..
Pretty typical.. insults and belittling is the new fad. Ok, so you got 5 years on me. I'll give ya that, but in my 15 years, I've pulled up a LOT of capet and can always tell when the stinger/spike has been used. I wouldn't be able to do that if there wasn't little holes in the subfloor.. as for your opinions on kickers, I'm right there with ya. It's asinine to beat yourself to death when a good stretcher does the job easier and better. HOWEVER..Do yourself a favor and go over to Google and type in "does using a stinger on stretcher void carpet warranty".. In most cases and through most manufacturers, it does. Now, I'm not going to call you ignorant, stupid or anything else negative because we have way too much negativity in this world, but I am going to say that I am not wrong and I am considered by many different contractors throughout the Carolinas as "the best" flooring (not just carpet) installer around. You do what works for you and I wish you all the best.
@@marcusl8243 LMAO!
yea, you're absolutely right. I am full of myself. That tends to happen when you take a lot of pride in what you do, never get called back for repairs and do everything as professionally as possible. Also, when a manufacturer says, "that will void all warranties", well... I just don't do it. That's exactly why I don't use the stinger. You say that the head put holes in the carpet? Yea it does. Slightly larger than a pencil lead, versus larger than the pencil. For the record, I'm not pretending to be "Mr respectful". It's just who I am. I know it sounds crazy but there are those who can discuss things on the internet without being disrespectful. You should try it. You'll get better responses and maybe even learn a few things. We all can still learn and that's ok... moving on.
Yes, I may have "ignorance due to lack of experience with the pin", but that's only because when I was taught, I was taught to stretch using the poles. When I started my own business, I looked into the stinger because I'm all about working smarter not harder, but when I learned that it actually does void all warranties and doesn't actually stretch as well as using the poles AND actually does do damage to the subfloor, I decided it's just not for me. BUT, as I said earlier, you do what works for you. If you've never had a claim, good! If the customers never complain, great! Just hope you never have a problem that calls for a 3rd party inspector. Otherwise, you'll most likely be screwed.
I'll not be answering anymore of your replies because like the majority, you can't take any kind of criticism, and can't play nice. You have a great day sir, and as I said before, I wish you all the best. 😊
It's flat, it's tight, job done!!
I now own one of these and It's awesome! A lot faster than poles and just as tight only down side you can't use on concrete subfloors.
Take a look at Tri-Force "Kicks" for concrete floors
Great video. Use the stinger, poles, triforce and mini stretchers. Always depends on job
Works if you have a subfloor you don't care about
My word. Its Harry the Hatchet!
poles are nice.
This is why you have to be careful who you hire or you get hacks like this showing up at your door.
agreed
As a fellow hack I will be getting paid faster than you “professionals” 🤣
I would love to know how and why u say he is a hack
@@bhriz775 Yes, and your customer will be getting ripped off.
Be back to restrech that room in 6months lol
Lie detectors determine, that is a lie.
Lies
called a stinger...you'll never get it tight enough, then guys like me get paid to fix your screw ups
I know somebody that has been using the "stinger" for years and never has any call backs
@@lcmwarriorlcm So, does he use it on a concrete floor? The "stinger" doesn't work, it will basically work on wood floors for a very small area to stretch, like a small closet or an area where the stretcher with the foot wont fit. All a manufacturer's rep would have to see is the holes left behind in the backing of the carpet to void any warrantee, and it would be deemed Installer error for not using correct tools for the installation...
It works on concrete just fine, you build a jig with 2x4's if you dont have poles. My dad has used a stinger for 30 years and never had a call back, we win awards for our floors, never use it on real thick cut pile or berber and never over stretch it. It will stretch more than a pole with a good subfloor and you need to know when you're stretching and when you are damaging the floor, its mainly for builder grade carpets with frizzae and trailers or homes with weak walls. It's a life saver if you know what you are doing and there are tons of videos showing it does very little damage to the backing. The head pokes more holes in the carpet than the stinger so why arent you calling that damage?
@@ksmith3702 you know then that there are really no carpet warranties that mean anything these days
@@Spittin_Bars how do you make the jig ?
U can on wood but not concrete on those picks
This may be a dumb question but will that work on a slab or only a wood floors?
Only subfloors or trailer homes. Concrete, it won't stretch to its potential and it may damage the spikes of the stinger.
@@jc-zp1de thanks , I thought that was the case. I just purchased a Tri-Force " Kicks". What are your thoughts on their products?
@@jeffbrownbbccarpetcare never bought it. I'm sticking to poles for now but it looks great for any time of carpet. Hows the stretching for 30ft long? Of triforce?
@@jc-zp1de I clean carpet primarily. I do short stretches to Re stretch. I've seen others use the Tri force and get good results on long runs but I can't speak for myself. I purchased the Tri force kicks which is similar in design to the kneeless kicker. It's designed to work with my junior power head or I guess any Power head. Longest stretch I've done on it was 11 and a 1/2 Feet.
You seem really surprised 😲 there’s two options with poles or without in wood floors and poles for everything else. I don’t use poles ever cause I use frog leg adapter.
I will be done the room long time ago with poles
Was he using a hatchet as a stair case tool?
Dude thats a roofing hammer not a stair tool
@@tannerjohnson6020 drywall hammer
You did a great job ruining the tack strip with your Hatchet good job jackleg
Hatchet faster than anything else 🤣
That’s for roofing
Buy a kicker
He’s a pro love his work. Pros recognize pros
Dude you are poking horrible holes in the carpet,stop,
So is the head, so is the kicker, why no complaints about that?
I know!! That's the worst tool he must get paid $1,000 an hour because hes taking all day on that room😂😂
this tool will void carpet warranty
How you gonna estrech the carpet of you estrech from the carpet you don.t know what you doing my friend
I’ve been a carpet installer for 35+ years the worst install I have ever seen rips holes in carpet . What a hack!!!
35+ years and you can't figure out that the head of the stretcher head puts 30 of those same holes in the carpets?.
Lmao spitfire got eeeeenmmn
@@Spitfire-qx4oe no kidding man, I install 10x the carpet as all these phonie ignorant old heads. My reps have seen me use the pin 100x by now, it's just a myth made up by some stupid old head because he was to ignorant to admit he was wrong. can't accept he was doing it the wrong way for all those years... anyone with any sort of experience with the pin can tell you these idots in the comments lack actual experience and just run with what they heard from uncle scott lmao.