Your bike is definitely better than mine, but I’m surprised you didn’t pick up the clunking of the gear box and other general unpleasant mechanical noise?
Okay this is awesome. I looked at doing the same thing with the same bike so glad to see someone else.going the same route. I did see one user who used a zoom actually stick their sound recorder in a tail bag.
That sounds pretty much perfect! Got a 2002 CBR 600F4i and a 2019 Tracer 900 GT that I want to record the exhaust along with my gopros, so will be getting the new Zoom H4N Pro Black Edition, an XLR to AUX adapter and a deadcat windshield because of this video. Thanks for the advice!
Because if you use that for the helmet mic, it takes control of the zoom inbuilt mics so you can’t use them to record the engine audio in parallel. The point of the h4n is to be able to capture 2 audio sources at the same time so I can get voice AND clear engine audio together. Need the xlr input for that. It explains that in the video.....
Prob me mate. Still learning the synching bit. Was so eager to try it I forgot the clap three times trick. I’ll get better. Sound it improved that’s main thing for this vid. Thanks for commenting. Really appreciate the positivity 🙏
What DB levels are you recording the engine sounds at, or what level would you ideally now? I know Voice audio should be between -12db and -6db, but I have no idea about sound effects
Yeah you just have to play with mic position more than anything. It took me ages to nail it but if you see some of my latest videos it’s about as good as it can be in a helmet
Thanks for sharing mate! This is a really cool vid and that helps new guys like me to make a more informed decision when spending money. Just one question, when editing you can merge the thow sounds right? i mean the sound inside your helmet and the sound of the zoom mic that is recording the exhaust? somehow find the sweet spot where you can have a "clean" voice and also a nice exhaust sound....best of both worlds :)
Hi! came here trough an other video. Dont know if it has been mentioned before but the H4N records stereo (left/Right) and this makes the sound switch sides when its centered above the main audio source (your bike). If someones listing trough a more expansive headset/earphones this can sometimes be very annoying. You can counter this by switching the audio track to MONO when doing the final edit. You still get the benefit of stereo recording (audio from multiple angles) but make the listening experience much beter! Great video, love the dry humor. And awesome bike!
Yeah I learned that the hard way mate. Appreciate the advice though. I’m just making this up as I go along 😂 getting decent audio has taken me many months and many hundreds of pounds. It’s a dark art and I’m only half way there 🤦♂️
@@mostlymotorbikes It is!! Gaff and paper tape and a lot of Lav mics are the solution with cars. I buy semi cheap 6 meter lav mics and run them under the bonnet and close the exhaust, run them to a recorder (something like the H4N pro) and later mono them. Cars do have less ambient air noise versus a bike of course! Keep it up!
Mostly Motorbikes still, won't it sound muffled though by being inside the bag? I'm stressed that might get it and I won't be able to get the job done properly. Another thought is maybe using a lab mic with windscreen either under the seat or inside the helmet, but I'm not sure if sound is going to be as good..
Engine comes through really well. Was considering doing this, thanks for showing me the way! BTW - sounds like there is clipping for the mic, maybe turning down the gain on it can help.
Thanks mate. It was a problem with the old software I used to use (Openshot) it doesn’t handle two audio sources very well. Switched to Da Vinci Resolve now. Much better. Appreciate you watching 🙏
Hey mate, I have a Roland field recorder, similar to the Zoom. I'm curious.. was the sound coming from your Zoom H4n, or was it coming from the Wireless GO mic? Or did we hear both combined on the video? If you did use the Zoom WITH the GO mic, what does it sound like without the GO? I'm working on my setup at the moment and never actually thought to use my field recorder. I keep buying cheap mics that are just plain crap
I used the wireless go for voice and zoom for external (engine noise). Depends on what you’re after. Often I use a GoPro media mod and simple lav mic if I don’t need to focus on engine noise.
Mate…. I have been struggling for about a year with my sound on my videos just making them music ones lol . I have an external audio recorder other than the brand you have and those wireless rode mics. Never thought to compare them!!!! Sound from helmet with a purple panda mic hooked up onto the recorder. Brilliant!!! Thanks so much for sharing this video mate!!! Much appreciated from Arizona USA PS. Now she can’t say don’t ride Now it’s EXACTLY what I’ll do🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Cheers
Hey love this setup and considering buying the wireless go myself. Have you experienced any signal loss between the receiver on the gopro & transmitter being behind you? Many other reviews have experience signal loss at range without good line of sight, but I hope that might not be an issue when being so close to each other? Thanks a bunch!
Hi, nice video 😊. I have a question. Would be very nice if you answer me. I bought zoom H4n poro new, honestly I have no idea🙃, maybe you can tell me a setting tip?🙏🏽. ich fahre eine Ducati 1199s. thanks in advance
Great sound! Thanks for the video. Did you try other zoom recorders as well? I'm not sure if I should chose the smaller h2n, but compared to all the other motorcycle videos recorded with the h2n or h1n, after watching your video I think the h4n is in advantage. But it's also less handy and maybe positioning is more important than the particular microphones. What do you think?
What input levels did you end up using for the two built in mics, picking up the engine/exhaust sounds? i.e Auto Level/Limiter/some low dB value? So far I have found it tricky to get a setting that still doesn't get distorted because of sheer volume; then too low a setting and there is general microphone hiss near equal to the bike's sounds.
Don’t overthink it. It’s hard to compare as I don’t know where you have the zoom in relation to the noise. All I really did was drastically reduce the gain. Test it out and look at the levels when you rev the engine. It just takes some experimentation.
@@mostlymotorbikes sir, really is it working ? How can be like that, what about wind, how can be disconnect fast speed? Do u think can it be work professional work ,for ex for a tv channel work, sync in edit u say premiere or others, yes it can be, but my wireless. İ got the ulanzi system and automatic buy adaptor too, i bought h6 zoom too, and head microphone i got boya mic 6 meters, finaly i understand that my set up is terrible,
And one more question sir, Where did you embed rode wireless mic on your body, insidr of headhelmet, or inside helmetjacket. This system is so interesting for me,i am talking right now to myself that why i bougt adaotor, and ulanzi system if it works like exactly tht
Have you used the setup to record your audio? I'm having trouble with my audio as my motorcycle basically blows out the speaker anytime I ride (Ducati Panigale V2). Tips? Thoughts?
Yeah but I was still playing with the settings. The gain in the voice input was still too high and it was clipping a bit. Just needed a couple of points lower.
That sounds amazing 🤩 I’ve been using the zoom h1n which is proving hard work with my MT09 it’s clipping all the time under the seat, what sort of gain setting are you using? I think either the zoom h4 or h5 would be perfect for raw audio going by your results
Okay thanks mate, I can definitely see the difference with the H4 though it can handle loud pipes, think the h1 clips over anything 120db 😂 your set up is perfect 👍 I’ve got the wireless DJI so I’ll be doing the same
@@mostlymotorbikes Your video made me go out and buy the h4n pro, and a rode wireless go lol. I just used my H1N on a motorcycle trip, and it absolutely sucked. It was either way to loud, or to quite. It sounded like audio from a gopro 🤦♂️ Really appreciate your video. Your audio sounds absolutely crisp 👌. Could we maybe get a video on how you setup your H4N and the settings? Would be very much appreciated 🙏
Hi Im struggling also getting good external audio and am thinking of going the Tascam DR-05x route (budget limitation won't let me go for the set up you have unfortunately). Im using GoPro Hero 8 and purple panda helmet mike with the media mod and even though its a little distorted am happy at the moment with it. But as always its getting a nice exhaust note that is the challenge. Maybe have a look at my channel and subscribe and we can follow each other as Im only just starting out. Liked you vid BTW
Thanks for subscribing. Try sticking your audio into Audacity and add some effects to it. External recorder is key to getting decent exhaust ultimately. I’ve subscribed back.
That sound at the end is CLEAN!!!
Way better right! 🤗
Dude the engine sounds sooooo much better. Bravo.
Thanks man. It’s loads better 👏🏻
a tip : watch movies at flixzone. I've been using them for watching loads of movies recently.
@Niko Creed definitely, I've been using Flixzone} for years myself :D
I expected that the noise will be better but THAT was awesome and surprised me ! Great Audio. Thanks for sharing bro !
Welcome mate. Thanks.
The only video that shows us how to use the Zoom H4n on a motorcycle.
Thanks mate 🙏
NICEEEEEEEEEEE! the transition from so-so sound into something really clean and sweet! cant wait to try my onboard video with external mic!
Thanks Nate good luck 🙏
I have been looking for a while for this kind of setup. Thanks dude for sharing this video!
You’re very welcome. Good luck.
Sounds like when you watch TT in tv lol nice one.
😂😂 I’m not going as fast as those boys 😉
Massive improvement. Money well spent 👏🏻
Thanks 🙏
Wow that is amazing sound, you deffo nailed that. You channel is gonna sound sweet now 👌🏻
Thanks dude.
real content, much appreciated !!! Bike sounds in music coming soon........
Thanks for the reply
Your bike is definitely better than mine, but I’m surprised you didn’t pick up the clunking of the gear box and other general unpleasant mechanical noise?
I didn’t have any unpleasant noises on mine. Some mechanical noises are by design and I love them.
@@mostlymotorbikes good to know. I tried putting a Purple Panda under my seat and it sounded awful
@@Juniar101 it will mate the movement is what kills it. Rustling.
Why is the speedo always blurred?
TH-cam glitch
@@mostlymotorbikes😂
wow, impressive audio at the end of this clip. Thinking of getting one of these to step up my car audio clips...
Okay this is awesome. I looked at doing the same thing with the same bike so glad to see someone else.going the same route. I did see one user who used a zoom actually stick their sound recorder in a tail bag.
That created too much rustling effect
That sounds pretty much perfect! Got a 2002 CBR 600F4i and a 2019 Tracer 900 GT that I want to record the exhaust along with my gopros, so will be getting the new Zoom H4N Pro Black Edition, an XLR to AUX adapter and a deadcat windshield because of this video. Thanks for the advice!
More than welcome e mate
Very impressive 👍🏻
Thank you very much!
bro why do u use that xlr to minijack adapter the recorder has an own one on the back!
Because if you use that for the helmet mic, it takes control of the zoom inbuilt mics so you can’t use them to record the engine audio in parallel. The point of the h4n is to be able to capture 2 audio sources at the same time so I can get voice AND clear engine audio together. Need the xlr input for that. It explains that in the video.....
Sounds amazing 😉
Thank you 😋
Sounds much much better 👍 not sure if it's my phone that's messed or the video and audio are out of time 🤔 but still great vid👍
Prob me mate. Still learning the synching bit. Was so eager to try it I forgot the clap three times trick. I’ll get better. Sound it improved that’s main thing for this vid. Thanks for commenting. Really appreciate the positivity 🙏
Mostly Motorbikes no worries mate keep up the good work 👍
Night and day, fantastic buddy. 👍❤️
Thank you. Really happy with the result. 🙏
@@mostlymotorbikes so you should be, it was night and day. It will take your channel to another level. Well done, i look forward to future vlogs.
Hello, share the setting u apply on the Zoom recorder. Low cut, limiter, auto lvl and the dial. I currently use hood h1.
great sound
Thanks mate. Appreciate it.
U are a fking God , thx for this advice!
😂😂 thanks pal. No worries
What DB levels are you recording the engine sounds at, or what level would you ideally now? I know Voice audio should be between -12db and -6db, but I have no idea about sound effects
Can’t remember mate sorry this was years ago
Great video, how come the mic when you were talking while riding was bass-y/muffled? Maybe you were on full dB on the rode wireless go?
Yeah you just have to play with mic position more than anything. It took me ages to nail it but if you see some of my latest videos it’s about as good as it can be in a helmet
Thanks for sharing mate! This is a really cool vid and that helps new guys like me to make a more informed decision when spending money. Just one question, when editing you can merge the thow sounds right? i mean the sound inside your helmet and the sound of the zoom mic that is recording the exhaust? somehow find the sweet spot where you can have a "clean" voice and also a nice exhaust sound....best of both worlds :)
So where do I get the dead cat for the mic ?
Amazon was where I got that
@@mostlymotorbikes what are your settings in the mic ? I literally just got mine yesterday and I’m not sure what settings to use .
@@vv-o-l-f9155 I just lower the gain right down to 3-4 depends how close it is to your exhaust
Hi! came here trough an other video. Dont know if it has been mentioned before but the H4N records stereo (left/Right) and this makes the sound switch sides when its centered above the main audio source (your bike). If someones listing trough a more expansive headset/earphones this can sometimes be very annoying. You can counter this by switching the audio track to MONO when doing the final edit. You still get the benefit of stereo recording (audio from multiple angles) but make the listening experience much beter! Great video, love the dry humor. And awesome bike!
Yeah I learned that the hard way mate. Appreciate the advice though. I’m just making this up as I go along 😂 getting decent audio has taken me many months and many hundreds of pounds. It’s a dark art and I’m only half way there 🤦♂️
@@mostlymotorbikes It is!! Gaff and paper tape and a lot of Lav mics are the solution with cars. I buy semi cheap 6 meter lav mics and run them under the bonnet and close the exhaust, run them to a recorder (something like the H4N pro) and later mono them. Cars do have less ambient air noise versus a bike of course! Keep it up!
@@djvincon thanks mate 🙏
I just bought H4N Pro I use in Harley. My Main problem is still wind noise. How do you clean the wind from Sound after record? Thank you for support.
Bro I don't have space under my seat. Will I have similar results if I put the recorder on a backpack as many suggest?
As long as it’s not moving around in the backpack yes.
Mostly Motorbikes still, won't it sound muffled though by being inside the bag? I'm stressed that might get it and I won't be able to get the job done properly. Another thought is maybe using a lab mic with windscreen either under the seat or inside the helmet, but I'm not sure if sound is going to be as good..
@@gavinvollure2252 many put it in a bag and it sounds great. Did you record already or? If yes, whats your setup?
Engine comes through really well. Was considering doing this, thanks for showing me the way! BTW - sounds like there is clipping for the mic, maybe turning down the gain on it can help.
Thanks mate. It was a problem with the old software I used to use (Openshot) it doesn’t handle two audio sources very well. Switched to Da Vinci Resolve now. Much better. Appreciate you watching 🙏
Hey mate, I have a Roland field recorder, similar to the Zoom.
I'm curious.. was the sound coming from your Zoom H4n, or was it coming from the Wireless GO mic? Or did we hear both combined on the video?
If you did use the Zoom WITH the GO mic, what does it sound like without the GO?
I'm working on my setup at the moment and never actually thought to use my field recorder. I keep buying cheap mics that are just plain crap
I used the wireless go for voice and zoom for external (engine noise). Depends on what you’re after. Often I use a GoPro media mod and simple lav mic if I don’t need to focus on engine noise.
Ah That makes sense. Thanks for the response mate
@@elevenpsy anytime
soo buy the h4 or a new one?
Mate…. I have been struggling for about a year with my sound on my videos just making them music ones lol . I have an external audio recorder other than the brand you have and those wireless rode mics. Never thought to compare them!!!! Sound from helmet with a purple panda mic hooked up onto the recorder. Brilliant!!! Thanks so much for sharing this video mate!!! Much appreciated from Arizona USA
PS. Now she can’t say don’t ride Now it’s EXACTLY what I’ll do🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Cheers
Glad it helped 🙏
Hey love this setup and considering buying the wireless go myself. Have you experienced any signal loss between the receiver on the gopro & transmitter being behind you? Many other reviews have experience signal loss at range without good line of sight, but I hope that might not be an issue when being so close to each other? Thanks a bunch!
Never it’s been perfect with no loss at all 🤷♂️
Nice set up! I will have to try and duplicate it. Thanks!!
You’re welcome Good luck 🤗
Hi, nice video 😊. I have a question. Would be very nice if you answer me. I bought zoom H4n poro new, honestly I have no idea🙃, maybe you can tell me a setting tip?🙏🏽.
ich fahre eine Ducati 1199s.
thanks in advance
Make sure you start it with the gain really low and build up until you hear interference, then dial back one.
Thank you🙏🏽
Great sound! Thanks for the video.
Did you try other zoom recorders as well?
I'm not sure if I should chose the smaller h2n, but compared to all the other motorcycle videos
recorded with the h2n or h1n, after watching your video I think the h4n is in advantage.
But it's also less handy and maybe positioning is more important than the particular microphones.
What do you think?
I chose that one at the time as it needed to be 4 track to capture audio mic and external mic at the same time. Thanks mate.
What input levels did you end up using for the two built in mics, picking up the engine/exhaust sounds? i.e Auto Level/Limiter/some low dB value?
So far I have found it tricky to get a setting that still doesn't get distorted because of sheer volume; then too low a setting and there is general microphone hiss near equal to the bike's sounds.
Don’t overthink it. It’s hard to compare as I don’t know where you have the zoom in relation to the noise. All I really did was drastically reduce the gain. Test it out and look at the levels when you rev the engine. It just takes some experimentation.
Ur head microphone rode whic is u pit input to h6 zoom ? İ understand correctly or not, i i use like this o dont need gopro adabtor ha ?
Correct. It’s a separate audio feed so you don’t need GoPro audio. You just have to synch in editing
@@mostlymotorbikes sir, really is it working ? How can be like that, what about wind, how can be disconnect fast speed?
Do u think can it be work professional work ,for ex for a tv channel work, sync in edit u say premiere or others, yes it can be, but my wireless. İ got the ulanzi system and automatic buy adaptor too, i bought h6 zoom too, and head microphone i got boya mic 6 meters, finaly i understand that my set up is terrible,
And one more question sir,
Where did you embed rode wireless mic on your body, insidr of headhelmet, or inside helmetjacket. This system is so interesting for me,i am talking right now to myself that why i bougt adaotor, and ulanzi system if it works like exactly tht
iLHAN ÖZBAY the wind isn’t an issue as the Zoom is under the seat
iLHAN ÖZBAY yeah inside my helmet
Have you used the setup to record your audio? I'm having trouble with my audio as my motorcycle basically blows out the speaker anytime I ride (Ducati Panigale V2). Tips? Thoughts?
Did you watch the video? Just use this setup like I did. Make sure you turn down the gain though if you’re getting blow out
@@mostlymotorbikes sorry, let me be more clear. Have you used the Recorder (not GoPro) to record your vocal audio (not motorcycle).
@@BurtoniMotors in this video the recorder records both my vocals and the bike. It explains how it works.
@@mostlymotorbikes Is the 10:25 mark recorded with the Zoom?
Yeah but I was still playing with the settings. The gain in the voice input was still too high and it was clipping a bit. Just needed a couple of points lower.
Thanks👍🏻
Most welcome
That sounds amazing 🤩 I’ve been using the zoom h1n which is proving hard work with my MT09 it’s clipping all the time under the seat, what sort of gain setting are you using? I think either the zoom h4 or h5 would be perfect for raw audio going by your results
Honestly I can’t remember but the gain was super low. Just have to experiment
Okay thanks mate, I can definitely see the difference with the H4 though it can handle loud pipes, think the h1 clips over anything 120db 😂 your set up is perfect 👍 I’ve got the wireless DJI so I’ll be doing the same
@@Daz4671 good luck pal
What a difference mate!!!! But please don't drive like a madman... Cheers from across the pond
It’s all special effects and good lighting mate 😉 thanks 🙏
You live literally 10 min away from me ,you just gone past my nans old house. When pandemic is over want to go for a ride out?
Sure why not.
Cool channel! Sub'd👌
Thanks my man
Dang, I should of got this instead. I literally just bought a h1n 🤦♂️
Ahh man.
@@mostlymotorbikes A video on adjusting the levels would be sweet. Thanks for all the help
@@mostlymotorbikes Your video made me go out and buy the h4n pro, and a rode wireless go lol.
I just used my H1N on a motorcycle trip, and it absolutely sucked. It was either way to loud, or to quite. It sounded like audio from a gopro 🤦♂️
Really appreciate your video. Your audio sounds absolutely crisp 👌.
Could we maybe get a video on how you setup your H4N and the settings? Would be very much appreciated 🙏
@@alotl1kevegas860 thanks mate. Appreciate the feedback
how you sync them both?
Set your camera going and your recorder then clap three times. Use the claps in editing to match the sound to the video.
Hi Im struggling also getting good external audio and am thinking of going the Tascam DR-05x route (budget limitation won't let me go for the set up you have unfortunately). Im using GoPro Hero 8 and purple panda helmet mike with the media mod and even though its a little distorted am happy at the moment with it. But as always its getting a nice exhaust note that is the challenge. Maybe have a look at my channel and subscribe and we can follow each other as Im only just starting out. Liked you vid BTW
Thanks for subscribing. Try sticking your audio into Audacity and add some effects to it. External recorder is key to getting decent exhaust ultimately. I’ve subscribed back.
@@mostlymotorbikes thanks for the advice - ill look into it.
Anytime.
sound of bike is OK but sound of your voice is very very bad
😂😂😂
fk you are rough with your gear!