@@sarexui634his main channel vids are basically documentaries because of how long it takes to make them, so he is making shorter/ easier vids on the side channel
@nimbus503 9 of his 11 latest vids are about as long or shorter than this video so you're just wrong. He does doc videos, but that's not what his channel is about. So that's definitely not his reason for not uploading on his main.
@@rifter4478you didnt watch the "Krilin attacks Goku with a small rock" scene? In dragon ball, characters reduce their power so they dont do the bed thing that you said (imagine Goku/vegeta kissing their wives, their lips would literally explore if they were full power), also vegeta scout said that he was going to destroy earth in sayan saga, thats like 25k power, now they are in trillions or billions i Guess... It is also said in the tournament of Goku VS Piccolo jr that people could not see the fight because they were too fast for normal human eyes, they were like... 50-60 power? In a few scenes characters say that they go around the world in less than 10 minutes (without being in "combate/full power mode") So, "realistically" speaking (they are animes, if the writer decides that X thing happens and Y character wins..), Goku senses the ki (DB characters also are able to sense energy from the entire universe if they Focus or if the enemy is strong enough [not the case] [VS kid buu they could do that]), literally does like 500km in 1 second already preparing the attack OR he teleports, and GG, gojo doesnt have time to react to an almost light speed attack without warning. Now, if you say something like "but i clearly see the fight, and i have normal human eyes" yeah, and nanek should have exploded in 5 mins, the time in chapters was...idk... from 1h to 3h with time skips of the fight
I can imagine this situation, hilarious * Vegeta uses Vegeta's Technique™ and all the ki blasts freeze mid air * "Haha funny shit magic man! GALICK GUN"
if you want an idea how strong Dragon Ball characters are, Masashi Kishimoto, creator of Naruto, said the strongest person in that universe, would be maybe close to as strong as Nappa in the Saiyan Saga. Nappa turns a city into a glass floor with the flick of his finger out of boredom and rips through battleship hulls like paper. And he immediately gets outclassed once Goku showed up.
@@wititorac i seen someone else repeat that before a couple of years ago but no clue if it is true or false. im leaning to false because it would be bad for your anime if you say your end series characters are weaker than beginning series characters from a rival anime
@@wititorac I looked it up, apparently he said that back in 2013 in an interview with Akira Toriyama himself, and they came to a mutual conclusion that was just as strong, but not more than Nappa. Look it up
I think the reason people think dragonball isn't that insane is cause the anime and manga never fully showcase the feats we see. They move fast and hit hard but its shown in a pretty reserved way alot of the time so people tend to forget how strong the people fighting actually are.
its made to look relative because that's the battle speed, as shown in the cell saga when in the POV of humans they cannot see Perfect Cell or Goku until they come in contact close to the floor of the arena, and that's more a shock wave rather than seeing them. (anime at least)
@@Prismitten. yup, I loved how much perspective it gives to their powers relative to a normal human being, by that moment Toriyama had all but completely stopped the fights near normal people, that's why Krillin looks so pathetic all the time
Yeah, and it's all very casually done. Goku's a big monkey? K blow up the moon, done. Monkeys acting up? Bye planet Vegeta Plus I'd imagine people who make these silly comparisons with Naruto and whoever don't know DB very well - half remembered childhood memories at best. It's easy to forget all Super Buu had to do to put the universe in jeopardy was power up raw lol Another thing is a lot of the time (like 99% of the time I see discussions, literally) they just don't understand DB's magic system (i.e how Ki actually works) at all.
Nah Demon king piccolo is definetly enough its stated he can explode the planet and im pretty sure namekians can breathe in space and gojo cant soo basically DKT solos
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@@BROLYDASHOCKED1 mui ? Kaioken times 10 gojo can't even beat kaioken goku Edit : oh my gosh i read the comment wrong i was beefing with someone else when typing this . The joke was funny too 🤣. The fact i got 1 like before edit means youtube is full of dummies
@@rifter4478 That sounds ridiculous bro , when he went in ultra instinct he shook the void around the tournament of power arena , the VOID . If super saiyan blue is weaker than super saiyan god then why did jiren try harder when goku went ssj blue ? You make 0 sense
I think the biggest problem with bringing characters to the DB universe is how no one has noticed how Ki, if it is strong enough, becomes paracausal and just nullifies other techniques like Candy Vegetto vs. Buu, Goku vs. Hit's time stop, and even Cell tanking Krillin's Kienzan. Just increasing the Ki can destroy dimensional barriers or reality itself. Clearly paracausal enough to counter almost any technique of weaker enemies.
Basically if your Ki gap in dragonball is big enough you can start to ignore stuff with barely any exeption like moro's magic or the mafuba. also gojo is a mafuba victim. so that makes him a master mutaito victim too.
Yeah few people seem to understand the concept that in dragon ball a power gap often gives immunity to various supernatural phenomena as just like a blank trait of strength/energy.
@@narrativeless404 dragon ball characters are quick enough for Gojo to be unable to have a fast enough reaction time and if he couldn't he could fire a Ki blast and is generally stronger making Gojo hardly able to scratch the guy
@@GermelDaGreat Well yeah, but he still can't get hit because of infinity, and if a character in question gets too close near Gojo, he can hit them with everything he got And not to mention DB characters dodging is far from perfect, they can get hit with weak and slow attacks despite their ridiculous movement speeds
Ok cool He blows up the planet easy win He uses something to send gojo to space Easy win Dont need to do much for dragon ball characters lol@@narrativeless404
Only if he can hit, tbf. The Devil Beam is pretty slow. But Devilman would indeed be a hard counter against most characters in most other stories really, except for the handful of truly pure of heart, of whom JJK has none.
I think probably the best way to get people to start to comprehend how STUPID powerful the DB characters are is to remind people that it was considered easier and faster to DESTROY THE MOON than it was to knock out Oozaru Goku, and he's since become literal tens to hundreds of thousands of times or even millions of times stronger than that.
@@RandomGuy-qc8ml I would say that is MAJOR low balling.... As pointed out in this video, NAMEK FRIEZA had power levels in the 100's of millions. He supposedly got MASSIVELY stronger by the time he was rebuilt and came to earth, but the first version of Future Trunks we see one shots both him and his more powerful father... Then Vegeta, who by this point was again MASSIVELY stronger than that trunks, got absolutely DESTROYED by 18, who stood no chance against first form cell... who then went through 2 transformations that each scaled to the point where he could tank the previous versions hits without so much as flinching each time. Then ANOTHER insane power up when he comes back from blowing himself up, followed by Goku training for almost another decade + learning SSJ3 not being able to do anything against Buu until he fused with Vegeta. And that was just to get to BUU level, let alone the insanity that happens in ToP.
@@shanedixon2511 Wait, what? It said he was over 1 million when he went to his second form, then had two major transformations and then went from 1% to 100%? The last two transformations were LESS than a 20% power-up? 1.2 million times 100 would already be 120 million...
@@Vertraic Yeah, canon 100% power level is 120 million. He doesn't start at 1% in Final Form, he starts at around 50% (60 mil). This is the last canon power level we get from the show itself (unless we count Future Trunks's PL of 5 lmao); power levels become completely irrelevant after that.
Bro the way a smile carved itself onto my face when he said “Gojo has to perceive attacks for infinity to work” was amazing, I instantly thought speed blitz
That's simply not true,gojo has a subconcious filter to tell what attacks are actually harmful but if he wants too he can keep infinity active against everything.
That's just wrong though. Infinity automatically stops anything that can be a threat, Gojo has to consciously let something pass. And he can keep it active 24/7 so speed is absolutely irrelevant and useless against it
@kristianperez4108 hollow purple has never been stated to delete matter. It's just that tearing everything apart and smashing them together at the same time is super destructive
@@Un_Named05 We see it delete matter. It doesn't tear matter apart, there isn't anything left after it lands, unless you believe that the sphere drags matter with it to wherever it goes.
If we're being honest. He dies during the Saiyan Saga (Nappa and Vegeta can blow up planets even back then, I don't think Gojo can breathe without oxygen.
@@duscl0ps356u do realize kid vegeta was blowing up planets with just 2 fingers..even king vegeta could blow up planets piccolo and master roshi blew up the moon..they could blow up planets if they put a lot of power in the blast..and vegeta was about to blow up the planet but goku stopped him..
@@duscl0ps356 thats not even close to true because yes they can lmao Earth DID stand no chance They were screwing around and they conquer planets before selling them thats how saiyans work Know your shit before talking first
12:07 when it comes to Gojo's use of infinity and him having to calculate things as a threat. It would be the opposite of how it was explained. Gojo says that his infinity can be constantly active but instead of him having to use his brain to calculate what's a threat in order to stop it he's actually calculating what isn't a threat in order to let it pass through. Hence the eraser and pencil example he had to make it so the eraser can pass through but the pencil could not by calculating the eraser as a non threat. Meaning in a 1 on 1 fight he doesn't need this strat he can just have it constantly active
I think I'm already tired of them putting Gojo in the Dragonball universe as if he were really going to do something with one of the characters. At this point, everyone can destroy planets, you can't touch Gojo but you can destroy the planet he's standing on, and no matter how strong he is, he. can't. breathe. in. space.
Fr, is the same thing as saying "yugi from yu-gi-oh is god level because he can summon gods" creating something and destroying it require completly different powers.
If your referring to gokus first appearance the gojo literally out punches him. If you mean kid Goku post demon king piccolo fight I kinda agree tbh, tho it would still be somewhat in the air
Thank God there are geeks of this level to create this kind of content. It's a very complex contemporary philosophy to consider certain things and mix completely different universes.
I don't understand how people think that Gojo needs to activate it when Gojo directly says that he made it automatic, that it WAS manual, but is no longer manual. We also see Gojo being surprised and unable to react but with his infinity still active and stabbed (When Toji hit him with the Infinite Spear of Heaven)
the infinity dependent on reaction speed argument presented here is probably the best one ive heard, but i still think its a super big downplay. i always interpreted the hidden inventory arc thing by saying that "infinity: the technique" is the thing that needs to determine what is or isn't a threat, and therefore block that object that infinity perceives, not gojo. this, on top of the fact that gojo, without DOUBT has the technique going at 24/7 should imply such an interpretation of the technique being passive. shouko said he'd get tired doing it 24/7. gojo said he'd constantly rct his brain. what was the point of this conversation if not to convey the fact that gojo would be having his infinity technique active 24/7? the reaction speed argument at all just doesn't work with this line of logic. infinity is passive, and at any moment it decides what gets through and what doesn't automatically like a threat perception. gojo can turn it on and off at will, say to let his friends/ teachers/ students/ enemies get through to him for whatever reason, but the threat perception is automatic and passive, hence constantly active, hence non-speed-blitzable. all in all, i just wanted to say, even a low-balled gojo should a bit more confidently have a higher interpretation, and downplaying infinity down to needing reaction time is selectively ignoring the conversation in hidden inventory.
Yeah exactly, Gojo is only tired by infinity before he has his enlightenment, then he basically triggers one of those bullshit infinity feedback loops that the devs forgot to nerf and he can keep going forever without conscious effort.
A had this thought even before this video that infinity is not passive but completely depend on six eyes perception and its six eyes that grant the ability to sense and detect threat cause of enhance sense and brain power. Infinity is all around gojo, six eyes have 360 radar vision. Infinty select objects on mass, speed and ce, six eyes can detect every aspect of these properties at atomic level. It can also be major reason why no gojo clan user has infinity since only six eye have such perception to make it worthwhile 24×7 and since his brain power is enhanced at atomic level he can train his subconscious mind to say what is a threat based on six eyes input that it can remain on through his sleep and why no one can blitz infinity is because it is six eyes enhace perception which can track down from kilometers but since every eye have a certain speed we can't perceive then six eyes would be same just alot powerful and blitzing more than anything sukuna(top) could pull of cause their base stats are relative and six eyes go beyond his base stats but buff in perception
No it was six eyes which tied him out cause to make infinity run 24×7 even for 2 days it need six eyes full perception info input of surrounding to his brain which tied out after 2days of constant work done selecting what is a threat or not based on massive info dump from his six eye to reinforce his infinity to that degree when to keep it chill. Also his brain power was also enhanced that was the reason he tried out so much after constant use of six eyes at their fullest. And kid gojo won't have to keep up infinity i.e why he was not wearing glassed at young age cause his brain was just collecting info dump not using then or retaining those info of surrounding.
Well when you have characters that are strong enough to move through the stoppage of time out of sheer willpower/strength gojo doesn’t fare too well against said characters, who could most likely just raw dog their way through infinity just cuz they increased their power to beyond their limits.😂
Demon King Piccolo seems like a stretch, considering he can turn island sized cities to barren wastelands in seconds. Once you start getting to the more inhuman/alien threats, i feel like thats where Gojo probably gonna struggle.
@tordonkin8018 Ulimate Void doesn't fry the brain though. It more of looping the first second of thought. If it actaully fry the brain, then a certain curse spirit wouldn't have survive and came back. Hell, even Gojo was able to fire off the Ulimate Void against a superior fighter who is by far faster and stronger them Gojo, he wouldn't be able to do any real damage with Purple or anything else. Gojo have no actaul way to win and baiscally have stall techquies against King Piccolo.
@@PensiveAnalysis Both Goku and Jiren literally punched through time, scaling them above 4D, also instant transmission exists. Infinite got broken by DB level fodder in comparison.
@@Edelweiss1102 no. Lmfao. This same disingenuous time shit that each & every one of you people use. Vados blatantly stated that if you’re stronger, you negate Hit’s ability. Not literally transcending time. 😂🤣 Also, even if Goku did IT to Gojo, he would then get stuck inside Infinity as he would then physically occupy space where Infinity is dividing the space infinitely, hence leaving Goku stuck & vulnerable to literally anything Gojo wants to do. Also, again since you people can’t fucking read, Infinity is INFINITE 4D. So EVEN IF Goku had 4D AP, you can’t overcome Infinite with Finite. Learn how to read.
I actually like how varied the intepretations for JJK can be; specifically taking the lower end. It allows for vs matchups with characters from verses that are more technical and down to earth in power like Hunter x Hunter. I feel like these kinds of verses are super under represented in vs matchups because they just get stomped by some random continent/planet buster that's trash in their own verse.
@@DeviousCockroach no that didnt mean anything, any person who can cut through dimensions or space can bypass infinity it just have to have a technique or strength feats to bypass infinity, goku being multiversal doesn't mean he can use his speed to bypass infinity
@@NeckBoneCollector No? It is shown that anyone faster than Gojo can bypass infinity. Goku is massively faster than Gojo so he would easily bypass infinity with a simple ki blast.
The issue about the lightning bolt is that it's often depicted to be moving relatively slow compared to actual lightning. We can see the raindrops and glass shards moving as the lightning bolt approaches Toji. So either the lightning bolts are actually lightning speed and the rain is also travelling lightning speed, or they are travelling much, much slower. Even then, lightning travels at 120,000 m/s. This is massively below the speed of light, more than 2000 times slower. I think it's safe to say that it's cursed energy that mimics the properties of lightning, ie imitates superhot plasma with current, rather than calling it an actual lightning bolt. This definition would make a lot more sense, especially considering no one in the anime shows the durability needed to even shrug off an actual lightning bolt, considering they are 5x hotter than the surface of the Sun. The burn damage would be considerable. Especially considering how the lightning bolt actually affects objects, we can see it causes an explosion which is contrary to what would happen if lightning stuck concrete buildings, the lightning would be focused into the rebar and head to ground. In the cases where they have destroyed the surface of concrete, they are usually focused there by metals like flag poles and the concrete itself would have no rebar inside it. And when they do damage concrete, the damage is never as great as shown, so unless they are unleashing attacks with thousands to millions of times of more power than the yield of a nuclear reactor in a year, they aren't lightning bolts. I believe that Toji is in the Mach level.
Kashimo’s lightning is his raw cursed energy which has a speed we can calculate and I’ll be dam surprised if it is lightning speed and no character that we see dodges Nue’s lightning not even Machi.
You do gotta realize just how strong dragonball characters are, COMPARED to other anime characters. We all know Yamcha is the weakest Z fighter, but he’s actually strong enough to one shot humans with a punch prolly. Most anime characters can’t do that without a certain technique or weapon.
Gojo does not get past anyone that can throw a ki blast. Infinity only slows material objects, ki is energy and positive energy at that (so it cancels cursed energy). Even Yamcha would destroy him.
@@kristianperez4108 Still a physical being But let's assume he isn't Domains can overwhelm infinity But domains are also made of cursed energy If ki is cursed energy then a basic ki blast will overwhelm infinity because they pack enough power to destroy the moon as early as the saiyan saga If ki is positive energy then we already saw what it does to curses (instantly kills them because both energies are negated on contact) so the same would happen to infinity
It IS answered tho. In the manga and anime. Gojo absolutely does not have to perceive or even know about something for limitless to block it. He applies a passive filter. He says this after the Toji fight when talking to Geto about running Reverse Cursed Technique constantly to prevent his brain from being fried from constantly having Infinity active 24/7, which he now can do because of RCT. Edit: to be clear, he wasn’t able to do this before unlocking Reverse Cursed Technique.
@@Siu34-z7u what i was saying was when the db characters that has the ability to destroy planets fights gojo, they'll most likely realize that they can't win by just punching and kickin and energy blasts. So obv they'll resort to just blowing up the planet. Gojo can't breath in space if he ever survive the explosion. So hence, gojo stops when characters can just blow up the planet.
@@PhillyTheKidA lot can breathe in space tho. And saiyans can’t breathe in space but they can hold their breath long enough to fight. It was shown in the bardock vs frieza fight when they where fighting in space.
Scaling in JJK is inherently broken regardless of how you approach these match ups. Anyone with enough energy to generate space or slow things infinitely without even feeling strain from it should have enough energy to blast whole universes apart casually.
Classic Dragon Ball already has characters that are FTL to FTL+ and Moon to possibly Planetary levels of power, the only thing that allows him to survive is his infinity. Infinity really do be carrying him not gonna lie LOL 11:49 Oh heard about this, if this is the case then yea its GOjover bro.
Infinity is his ability though. That’s like saying goku is carried by ki attacks. That Eren is carried by his titan abilities. That ash Ketchum is carried by pokemon. That ichigo is carried by his zanpakuto. lol
@@FTL_SAN Im saying that the only reason he could survive is because of his infinity since pretty much all of his other abilities are easily dodgeable or arent strong enough to do anything.
i’m glad you brought up jjk probably doesn’t even scale to hxh and mha im so tired of people thinking a city level anime is beating anyone gojo is a big fish in an extremely itty bitty tiny pond
So are all new anime and Manga series just trying to get as strong as the older ones ? It's like you're in a ranked tournament. Instead of gold and diamond, you have Naruto,bleach, dragon ball. So what would be in the highest tier?
I feel like when Seth gets around his boys, he pretends like he doesn't know how infinity works and downplays it. He described Infinity so half-heartedly to avoid making his friends sound incompetent because they don't know what they're talking about. Probably for a few reasons bias towards the shows they grew up with, a hate for the JJK fanbase (understandable), not caring about the manga/anime, a lack of understanding, or all of the above. If Gojo brain has to perceive you to categorize you as a threat 12:30 then what was the point of him creating a condition based on mass, speed, and curse energy? Why would he create a way to make it passive, via always having infinity on by refreshing his brain, if the discernment of the object coming towards him still required visual input from Gojo. What about attacks from behind? If your proposal for the skeptics were true, Gojo wouldn't be seen as impossible to take down because you could just find him when he's taking a nap and stab him in his back. And you know this Seth, I watched your Gojo vs Kakashi video, great vid btw. But you gotta let these F.A.Ns know what it is. You're not getting past infinity unless you have infinite speed, Hax that negate abilities like true seeking orbs, or space/time altering attacks. I agree with everything else you say in the video. But I would hate for more people to think blitzing Gojo with finite speed is an option. Aren't Sukuna's regular cleaves invisible with no mass, so if it's based off Gojo's perceptions, then how come Sukuna was unable to use it on Gojo until he developed a slash that could cut space?
@@XandusKee you can’t outrun infinity 😭 even if he’s faster than teleportation, teleportation still has a finite speed. You need infinite speed, ability negating hax, or space time attacks/abilities.
It's honestly insane how well done the first sections are and then how lazy and outright disingenuous the latter parts are. Like are we serious? You go through great lengths to explain the depth of Gojo's defense and then give like 3 sentences saying a (seemingly fodder) character would touch him (which is not possible with physical contact or through energy attacks) and he dies instantly. I get that Gojo isn't that strong in a DBZ universe because (forgive me Toriyama) DBZ's scaling has always been ridiculous (Roshi destroying the moon, etc.) but at least give Gojo the credit he deserves and have him lose vs someone who actually has the capabilities of defeating him. The fact that Gojo has RCT meaning he would need to be destroyed in an instant as well. Which is already proven to be a difficult thing with infinity. Aside from Infinity and blue you don't mention Gojo's cursed techniques or how Cursed Energy can be manipulated, The fact that Gojo is a brilliant strategist with a very high battle IQ, his Six eyes, or any cursed tools Gojo can equip himself with. I can give you a rundown of how Raditz would lose (despite being physically stronger.) Gojo uses the fact that Raditz doesn't know of his abilities to bait an attack > Raditz instantly would be caught within limitless, giving Gojo ample opportunity to counterattack > Gojo uses his cursed technique to (near instantly) destroy Raditz's arms and legs (similar to Juzo Kumiya) > Gojo finishes him off with any number of attacks. All this video chalked up to was a bunch of glazing of DBZ scaling, like every other power scaling youtuber... and you had like 1-5 lines about anything other than DBZ (or JJK).
@@Swagtrap_CZ Doesn't _matter_ All physical matter will get slowed down to a standstill no matter how fast it moves Objects don't turn into electromagnetic radiation just by moving at lightspeed yk? But even then, there are some implications that would let to assume Infinity can block EM waves too if they are harmful, judging by the fact the light around Infinity appears distorted. So i think Infinity can stop anything if it travels in space
@@narrativeless404 air molecules are physical matter. Everything around you. Even light particles (photons) are physical matter. Your point? Gojo is just a weak ass fraud i could beat in a fight if i had a gun and a single grenade
@@narrativeless404 "all physical matter gets slowed down to a standstill no matter how fast it moves" you do realise air molecules are physical matter aswell right? If it truly stopped any physical matter gojo would just suffocate and die.
How about Gojo vs Sukuna the honest truth, of course you’ve said your take of that on stream but a lot of people still think Gojo is stronger and just say Sukuna couldn’t use his complete arsenal of abilities on Gojo thanks to the limitless in response to Gojo saying Sukuna wasn’t giving it his all and didn’t think he could beat Sukuna w/o 10 shadows, some even cite Clyde’s video to be what would have happened realistically if Gege was consistent or something
@@justanaverageenjoyer8494 Then you don’t know bro 💀 you literally haven’t watched or read it so you’re literally only speaking based on what? TH-cam short recaps?
@@LandrixM all I know is that that dude Sukuna can cut shit and gojo is untouchable, infinite energy, has universal pull and all mighty push, can teleport, the Byakugan and some purple ball that can destroy anything How did bro loose 💀?
@@justanaverageenjoyer8494 Sukuna had two plans, number one was using Mahoraga to adapt to gojos ability to be untouchable, but Gojo managed to destroy Mahoraga before he could fully adapt, but by then sukuna already figured out how gojos ability worked and combined his two versions of his slash to cut the space itself that Gojo was in, which is how he won
Infinity is not based on reaction speed at all, otherwise Kenjaku’s plan would have been to just take a gun and shoot Gojo in the face while he’s asleep lol. Gojo infinity has stopped objects that he had no way of reacting to, like attacks from his blindspots. Infinity can not be speed blitzed….
hmm well i think it can be speed blitzed if u take into acc gojo uses it against ppl/curses which dont have nearly as speed feats as the current db verse, so id say infinity is speedblitzable, just not in jjk verse's lvl of speed
@user-eo5mr2mj1c thats just wishful thinking but can't be proven unless infinity gets bypassed in the series by a level of speed that characters from dB are faster than which never happened
@@esdrascristobal That goes against the very natue of infinity. Gojo's infinity can divide the soace between matter and himself infinitely (which means nothing automatically detected as a threat can ever reach him, regardless of speed). Only if Gojo willingly and consciously lets it pass infinity, or if you can somehow attack him without any kind of movement (the attack would need to literally teleport onto Gojo)
@@FilipeG96 eye blast (sets of an explosion to where your enemy is) flash strike(vegetas technique sets of an explosion to where your enemy is) he's only lasting up to saiyan saga
Gojo doesnt get out of Dragonball. Maybe up to Tien but he aint Moon level nor can Gojo move faster than the solar flare so maybe Krillin or Yamcha from the Crane Hermit Arc
@thelettucebarrel7784 how can you be so wrong lol do you have eyes? We literally see infinity stop things gojo isn't even aware of and on top of that gojo in the Manga can just say "nope" to everything when yuji had to tell him to chill cause they couldn't touch him through infinity so it doesn't need to be a perceived threat
@@unoriginalyoutubename8761 yeah he would devil man can kill anyone with evil in their heart and gojo defo has some evil in his lmao, bro goes crazy in some fights (literally)
Meh, he dies to master roshi. Infinity won't stop a ki blast as it's not a material object, so the kamehameha (which by the way, is positive energy which by JJK lore cancels cursed energy) will go right through and vaporize him.
@@dentkort Infinity stops anything deemed as a threat, not just material objects. It can stop pure CE so why wouldn't it stop pure Ki if said Ki is dangerous? The positive energy point is also moot, positive energy doesn't cancel cursed energy, if that were the case then Gojo could just use Red through any technique and immediately dispel it because it uses Reverse Cursed Energy. Positive energy is especially strong against cursed spirits, that's all.
@@mist0804 When did it stop pure cursed energy? Honest question. But besides that, the selection process for what to stop and what not to stop in Infinity is subconscious. Already by the saiyan saga they're already moving at least dozens of times the speed of light, and ki waves are even faster. I don't know how fast subconscious thoughts are, but I'm betting they're much slower than the speed of light. Positive energy is mutually annihilating with cursed energy, that's the whole reasoning behind hollow purple. Red doesn't do this because it has a strong repulsive effect that prevents things from actually touching the energy itself. A single ki blast from late Dragon Ball characters would, assuming ki is positive energy, be too much for Infinity to stop, be it because of its speed, or because the sheer amount of positive energy that is being cancelled out by the cursed energy would eat through Gojo's entire CE reserves and still have enough power to kill him a hundred times over. I hope we can keep this civil. There are some people getting extremely angry in these comments and for no reason.
@@dentkort I can't remember a specific time off the top of my head where it stopped just pure cursed energy, but it should definetely be able to also stop cursed energy because if it couldn't all it would take is any CE projectile to bypass it and that just doesn't make sense for a technique that's so hyped up in-verse. The selection process is subconscious, yes, but it doesn't constantly have to select what it lets through and what it doesn't, it just sets parameters (like a specific speed, shape and CE amount) and then stops whatever meets those parameters. Also, if we are using verse equalization, then Ki would be cursed energy since that's the basic power system. If we aren't, then you can't just assume Ki would work like what is called positive energy in JJK.
Bro I’m sure he’s a threat to the univers (aside from gods and gero’s scientific monstrosities there were like 3 other characters that could challenge him in universe 7 two of whom were sealed/imprisoned) but ain’t no way is bro blowing up the whole universe
Anyone in dragonball that can't get pass infinity and has a brain gets negged, only names pose a threat are those who have no issue destroying the planet or something
@Jsipki265 that's only if you think gojo dumb enough to pop his domain on something that doesn't have a functioning brain such as 16 so you'd literally have to argue gojo so dumb he'd never figure out 16 is all mechanical
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Why not post this on the main channel?
Is this a new video? Why not upload it on the main channel?
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@@sarexui634his main channel vids are basically documentaries because of how long it takes to make them, so he is making shorter/ easier vids on the side channel
@nimbus503 9 of his 11 latest vids are about as long or shorter than this video so you're just wrong. He does doc videos, but that's not what his channel is about. So that's definitely not his reason for not uploading on his main.
"Stand proud Gojo, you're strong."
-Mr. Satan
Gojo would be a worthy opponent for mr satan
@@Mixxerungl, Mr.satan might actually be able to dodge HP,RR,and LB because he dodges kid buu's attacks
@@naetench5607 yeah no, that was a gag, plus im pretty sure it wasnt even in the manga
this one got me
Unsealed gojo vs Goku black plz EEEEEEEEE
It’s funny when I have these debates with friends they really underestimate how strong Raditz is.
if raditz can do it so can a saibaman and no one wants to admit those perverse plant freaks are strong
@@Jamlord2061I still refuse to believe they are as strong as Raditz 😂 I choose to believe Vegeta was just talking shit 😂
@@midwestrob8408 radio had a powerlevel of 1400, pretty sure saibamen have a powerlevel of 1200 so he's a bit stronger but they are comparable.
@notfollowingthedareanymoreLmao 😂
Random Sans btw 💀
Sans nation@@narrativeless404
He stops at saiyan saga, like the saiyans aint playing they finna just blow the planet up if they cant get through infinty
And thats highballing
That’s likely right. Most wouldn’t get past infinity, but with no planet it doesn’t matter.
@@rifter4478 just say you don't read or watch dragon ball bro
@@rifter4478you didnt watch the "Krilin attacks Goku with a small rock" scene? In dragon ball, characters reduce their power so they dont do the bed thing that you said (imagine Goku/vegeta kissing their wives, their lips would literally explore if they were full power), also vegeta scout said that he was going to destroy earth in sayan saga, thats like 25k power, now they are in trillions or billions i Guess...
It is also said in the tournament of Goku VS Piccolo jr that people could not see the fight because they were too fast for normal human eyes, they were like... 50-60 power?
In a few scenes characters say that they go around the world in less than 10 minutes (without being in "combate/full power mode")
So, "realistically" speaking (they are animes, if the writer decides that X thing happens and Y character wins..), Goku senses the ki (DB characters also are able to sense energy from the entire universe if they Focus or if the enemy is strong enough [not the case] [VS kid buu they could do that]), literally does like 500km in 1 second already preparing the attack OR he teleports, and GG, gojo doesnt have time to react to an almost light speed attack without warning.
Now, if you say something like "but i clearly see the fight, and i have normal human eyes" yeah, and nanek should have exploded in 5 mins, the time in chapters was...idk... from 1h to 3h with time skips of the fight
I can imagine this situation, hilarious
* Vegeta uses Vegeta's Technique™ and all the ki blasts freeze mid air *
"Haha funny shit magic man! GALICK GUN"
Dies to Bulma's car in episode one.
The car would shatter gojo in milliseconds.
Nah he dies to Goku's space pod
😂😂😂
dies to the nimbus cloud
Dies to the change of pressure caused by Goku landing on the planet@@Monkeylighthouse
Bros a Nappa victim 😭😭
What about Yamcha
@@seasonsgaia2487 what ABOUT yamcha?
@@BS-pk1vd is he not Yamcha victom
@@seasonsgaia2487 its a joke... have you REALLY not watched dragon ball z abridged?
He’s a Chiotzu victim 😭
The real answer is that he’s not getting past farmer with shotgun
😂😂
Farmer with a shotgun is the alter ego of one above all. 😂
@@CrazyAnimeGamer3yes
@@CrazyAnimeGamer3 BUT ITS A RIFLE!!!! ah oh well I don't really care shotgun is funnier
No one is
if you want an idea how strong Dragon Ball characters are, Masashi Kishimoto, creator of Naruto, said the strongest person in that universe, would be maybe close to as strong as Nappa in the Saiyan Saga. Nappa turns a city into a glass floor with the flick of his finger out of boredom and rips through battleship hulls like paper. And he immediately gets outclassed once Goku showed up.
Kishimoto did not say that.
Provide a source.
"The source is I made it the fuck up" ahh comment 😭😭
@@wititorac i seen someone else repeat that before a couple of years ago but no clue if it is true or false. im leaning to false because it would be bad for your anime if you say your end series characters are weaker than beginning series characters from a rival anime
@@georgeDeming Why would that be bad? Also I don't think Kishimoto said that in general. Nappa would win though, as sad as that may be
@@wititorac I looked it up, apparently he said that back in 2013 in an interview with Akira Toriyama himself, and they came to a mutual conclusion that was just as strong, but not more than Nappa. Look it up
I think the reason people think dragonball isn't that insane is cause the anime and manga never fully showcase the feats we see. They move fast and hit hard but its shown in a pretty reserved way alot of the time so people tend to forget how strong the people fighting actually are.
Also because nobody ever uses their full DC. We rarely see anyone actually blow up planets.
its made to look relative because that's the battle speed, as shown in the cell saga when in the POV of humans they cannot see Perfect Cell or Goku until they come in contact close to the floor of the arena, and that's more a shock wave rather than seeing them. (anime at least)
@@Prismitten. yup, I loved how much perspective it gives to their powers relative to a normal human being, by that moment Toriyama had all but completely stopped the fights near normal people, that's why Krillin looks so pathetic all the time
Very first season of DragonBall Roshi blows up the moon. Granted he was a but tired but that was the very first season.
Yeah, and it's all very casually done. Goku's a big monkey? K blow up the moon, done. Monkeys acting up? Bye planet Vegeta
Plus I'd imagine people who make these silly comparisons with Naruto and whoever don't know DB very well - half remembered childhood memories at best. It's easy to forget all Super Buu had to do to put the universe in jeopardy was power up raw lol
Another thing is a lot of the time (like 99% of the time I see discussions, literally) they just don't understand DB's magic system (i.e how Ki actually works) at all.
0:44 "he still has a role in the pecking order" yes, still far below Popo
No one mess with popo
Popos about to teach you the pecking order it goes gojo the dirt the worms inside the dirt popos stool Kami and then popo
First rule of popos training do not talk about popos training 😭😭😭😭😭
Rule six of Mr popo's training: don't break his stuff.
All yall broke the rules
"For the birds!" Is the last thing Gojo is going to hear from 16 before he's erased
Nah Demon king piccolo is definetly enough its stated he can explode the planet and im pretty sure namekians can breathe in space and gojo cant soo basically DKT solos
@@sandronadiradze86 He could've done that against goku but he's an idiot
so gojo wins
@@surprisemanthe thing is Piccolo wants to rule the planet, destroying it just to kill 1 person would be counterintuitive
@@dokutah7374 He was desperate sooo
also yeah he's a villain you think he isn't dumb?
@@surpriseman hes like dio in The sense that he could have easily won but they had an ego bigger then alaska which lead to their downfall
Android 16 bodying Gojo is a really funny mental image
Greetings my friends from beyond and within the grave. In the short time in which we inhabit this world, It would be my honor to offer you a new life with Christ. Let today be the day you begin💜
@@jpraise6771God bless you ❤
DUNK 🏀
Gojo: _accidentally vaporizes a bird with Hollow Purple_
Gojo: "Why do I hear boss music?"
@@jpraise6771 Goku solos.
Stops at Jackie Chun aka Master Roshi unfortunately 😂😂😂😂😂
Jackie Chun is Master Roshi? now way man, one of them is bald bro its impossible.
Can hypnosis affect gojo? If so, Jackie Chun wins.
Doesnt matter jackie chun shits on him regardless @@BrandonLung
lies, jackie chun is NOT roshi
@Fbi_spidermannaw bro, Jackie Chun is a whole different person, he was standing with Roshi smh😤😤
“Gojo is essentially jumped by all of his opps.”
He said calmly.
Garlic Jr. is giving Gojo back shots
Wtf 😂😂😂😂😂
@@Siu34-z7u bro goku swam across the world when he was a kid and acted like it was a nice stretch 💀
@@Siu34-z7ukid Goku was Planetary to Solar system 💀
@@Siu34-z7u💀
@@Siu34-z7u ssj 1 was a universal level💀 Freiza was stated many times he's second form was able to destroy the universe 😂
Ok but give Gojo Kaioken x10 and he might be able to beat Bulma’s car
no bulma's car solo
Wtf😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Did u mean mui
its double no quadruple, no its.. TIMES TENNNNN
@@BROLYDASHOCKED1 mui ? Kaioken times 10 gojo can't even beat kaioken goku
Edit : oh my gosh i read the comment wrong i was beefing with someone else when typing this . The joke was funny too 🤣. The fact i got 1 like before edit means youtube is full of dummies
Okay yall dbz fans we get it gojo is weaker but you do NOT have to shit on him saying he dies to bulmas car 😭
Bulma's car hurt Goku, Goku is Multiversal, Bulma's car is therefore multiversal, Gojo gets one tapped
@@bbqsauce890peak logic
He stops at bulma's signature slaps
@@bbqsauce890nahh u stupid goku wasnt multiversal at the time
Dies to Bulma's pistol too because it hurted him and Goku can punch through manga panels making him omnipotent.
Video starts at 14:01
thanks bro
I'm ded boy wasn't lying 💯
The 1st part is also important but ok
thanks bro
Soo a whole 13 minutes of yapping 🫠🫠 you the goat
He'll stop at Popo's secret training sadly.
lol odds are he'll hang around there to get stronger because if he watches things enough he's going to know how screwed he is and act accordingly.
@@christopherrogers532 Yes but nothing will change because Popo's folding super saiyans while holding back😂
WE DON'T TALK ABOUT POPO'S TRAINING 😭😭😭
@@JustSomeGuyWhoisLostyea but him and Kami can’t fight that’s the messed up part , they where the original whis and beerus
He doesn't even step into Z
@@rifter4478 You need help 🤣
@@rifter4478 That sounds ridiculous bro , when he went in ultra instinct he shook the void around the tournament of power arena , the VOID . If super saiyan blue is weaker than super saiyan god then why did jiren try harder when goku went ssj blue ? You make 0 sense
@@rifter4478 so normal super saiyan god is large mountain , and full power super saiyan god is multiversal ? Ok bro
@@Siu34-z7u Is that your alt account ? 🤣🤣
Nappa wipe entire city whitout effort
I think the biggest problem with bringing characters to the DB universe is how no one has noticed how Ki, if it is strong enough, becomes paracausal and just nullifies other techniques like Candy Vegetto vs. Buu, Goku vs. Hit's time stop, and even Cell tanking Krillin's Kienzan.
Just increasing the Ki can destroy dimensional barriers or reality itself. Clearly paracausal enough to counter almost any technique of weaker enemies.
Basically if your Ki gap in dragonball is big enough you can start to ignore stuff with barely any exeption like moro's magic or the mafuba.
also gojo is a mafuba victim. so that makes him a master mutaito victim too.
Fr
Let's not forget about super buu/gotenks ssj3 literally breaking the dimensional barrier via a powerup
Yeah few people seem to understand the concept that in dragon ball a power gap often gives immunity to various supernatural phenomena as just like a blank trait of strength/energy.
Same reason any decent bleach character just flexing their reiatsu would turn him to paste.
As much as I love Gojo he's not even getting past the sayain saga.
Bro gets no diffed by raditz, dragon ball just makes its characters so dang op compared to other animes
@@GermelDaGreat Raditz can't get past Infinity tho
@@narrativeless404 dragon ball characters are quick enough for Gojo to be unable to have a fast enough reaction time and if he couldn't he could fire a Ki blast and is generally stronger making Gojo hardly able to scratch the guy
@@GermelDaGreat Well yeah, but he still can't get hit because of infinity, and if a character in question gets too close near Gojo, he can hit them with everything he got
And not to mention DB characters dodging is far from perfect, they can get hit with weak and slow attacks despite their ridiculous movement speeds
Ok cool
He blows up the planet easy win
He uses something to send gojo to space
Easy win
Dont need to do much for dragon ball characters lol@@narrativeless404
Realistically, early Saiyan Saga.
or King Piccolo Saga, he destroyed a city with ease
Nah he doesn't even get to Z
VERY early Saiyan Saga, if he makes it past 23d Budokai Goku and Piccolo Raditz absolutely no diffs.
Realistically and Dragonball in the same sentence is peak comedy.
Not as much comedy as believing animes like bleach, naruto, JJK, OPM or Fate can beat DB😂
EXCELLENT WORK. SETH DRAGON BALL CHARACTERS VS GOJO
I mean it’s fiction
@@Yokai_Yuribleach beats og db, there’s a discussion for dbz (even super buu or vegito) but dbs slams hard
Super Saiyan Goku is enough
At maximum ssg2 should wipe bleach@@edi1499
"Nah, I'd win"
Proceeds to get bodied by Pilaf
That could actually happen, which is stupid but funny.
"stand proud gojo, you're strong"
-Murasaki ninja
Maybe one day you can beat Bulma
devilman completely annihilates gojo
True
Go nagai devilman solos
Kinda funny considering he was also torn in half by the end
Only if he can hit, tbf. The Devil Beam is pretty slow. But Devilman would indeed be a hard counter against most characters in most other stories really, except for the handful of truly pure of heart, of whom JJK has none.
Mazinger Zero annihilates the verse 💀💀💀
The fact that your pfp is Aizen working at McDonald's is HILARIOUSLY funny if you know Seth lore
Please, preach to me the Seth lore.
Is it cuz he worked at McDonald's?
😵💫
"what the hell is that green frog looking thi-
(gojo proceeds to die)
I think probably the best way to get people to start to comprehend how STUPID powerful the DB characters are is to remind people that it was considered easier and faster to DESTROY THE MOON than it was to knock out Oozaru Goku, and he's since become literal tens to hundreds of thousands of times or even millions of times stronger than that.
I've seen that post-TOP arc Goku's power level is in Quadrillions
@@RandomGuy-qc8ml I would say that is MAJOR low balling.... As pointed out in this video, NAMEK FRIEZA had power levels in the 100's of millions. He supposedly got MASSIVELY stronger by the time he was rebuilt and came to earth, but the first version of Future Trunks we see one shots both him and his more powerful father... Then Vegeta, who by this point was again MASSIVELY stronger than that trunks, got absolutely DESTROYED by 18, who stood no chance against first form cell... who then went through 2 transformations that each scaled to the point where he could tank the previous versions hits without so much as flinching each time. Then ANOTHER insane power up when he comes back from blowing himself up, followed by Goku training for almost another decade + learning SSJ3 not being able to do anything against Buu until he fused with Vegeta. And that was just to get to BUU level, let alone the insanity that happens in ToP.
@@Vertraic Frieza full power during saiyans saga is 120,000,000 not hundreds of millions
@@shanedixon2511 Wait, what? It said he was over 1 million when he went to his second form, then had two major transformations and then went from 1% to 100%? The last two transformations were LESS than a 20% power-up? 1.2 million times 100 would already be 120 million...
@@Vertraic Yeah, canon 100% power level is 120 million. He doesn't start at 1% in Final Form, he starts at around 50% (60 mil).
This is the last canon power level we get from the show itself (unless we count Future Trunks's PL of 5 lmao); power levels become completely irrelevant after that.
Lets be real here chat, a single kiai from Z goku easily kills gojo
Ofc the fucking gods of creation solos gojo
People making unironic Universal/Solar System level jjk arguments 💀
Yall be making universal krillin arguments
@@SosukeTYBW You’re slow
@@Jsipki265 and yall have no argument
Highest is large planet. The uni stuff is likely linked to hax like Gojo's purple and Sukuna's world slash which should be categorized as only hax
@@l.lawliet2222 krillin has no such hax
Gojo vs tambourine would be crazy‼️
Bro the way a smile carved itself onto my face when he said “Gojo has to perceive attacks for infinity to work” was amazing, I instantly thought speed blitz
@@clarissacraig486 and yet that's not even true cause the anime already shows infinity stopping things gojo isn't even aware of
Not in the manga and ask hanami
That's simply not true,gojo has a subconcious filter to tell what attacks are actually harmful but if he wants too he can keep infinity active against everything.
Gojo does not need to perceive the attack in order to use Infinity. He trained it to automatically stop things that's are dangerous.
That's just wrong though. Infinity automatically stops anything that can be a threat, Gojo has to consciously let something pass. And he can keep it active 24/7 so speed is absolutely irrelevant and useless against it
he dies to King Piccolo SR.
King Piccolo destroys him with a Ki Blast
King Piccolo gets hit with Unlimited Void and then deleted by Hollow Purple
@@kristianperez4108 ok lemme think, Vegeta And Nappa or nah?
@kristianperez4108 hollow purple has never been stated to delete matter. It's just that tearing everything apart and smashing them together at the same time is super destructive
@@Un_Named05 We see it delete matter. It doesn't tear matter apart, there isn't anything left after it lands, unless you believe that the sphere drags matter with it to wherever it goes.
If we're being honest. He dies during the Saiyan Saga (Nappa and Vegeta can blow up planets even back then, I don't think Gojo can breathe without oxygen.
they cannot destroy planets at that point, otherwise earth would have had no chance
@@duscl0ps356u do realize kid vegeta was blowing up planets with just 2 fingers..even king vegeta could blow up planets piccolo and master roshi blew up the moon..they could blow up planets if they put a lot of power in the blast..and vegeta was about to blow up the planet but goku stopped him..
@@duscl0ps356 thats not even close to true because yes they can lmao
Earth DID stand no chance
They were screwing around and they conquer planets before selling them thats how saiyans work
Know your shit before talking first
@@duscl0ps356 There was flashbacks of King Vegeta blowing up planets literally that arc
Guys
Let's just be honest
King Vegeta destroyed planets with a flick of his cape. The only reason earth isn't just blown up all the time is plot
12:07 when it comes to Gojo's use of infinity and him having to calculate things as a threat. It would be the opposite of how it was explained. Gojo says that his infinity can be constantly active but instead of him having to use his brain to calculate what's a threat in order to stop it he's actually calculating what isn't a threat in order to let it pass through. Hence the eraser and pencil example he had to make it so the eraser can pass through but the pencil could not by calculating the eraser as a non threat. Meaning in a 1 on 1 fight he doesn't need this strat he can just have it constantly active
I think I'm already tired of them putting Gojo in the Dragonball universe as if he were really going to do something with one of the characters.
At this point, everyone can destroy planets, you can't touch Gojo but you can destroy the planet he's standing on, and no matter how strong he is, he. can't. breathe. in. space.
It takes someone like Sukuna to bypass his infinity and people still think his infinity is impenetrable.
@@justguy-4630 his infinity takes an attack that erases space itself to be penetrated
@@CapybaraALK They're cutting.
@@phu9340 yeah, an attack that affects space itself
Sayans also can't breathe on space, as stated by Vegeta
Blowing up the planet they're on is not even an option
It ends at jackie chun/roshi from dragon ball. If roshi cant beat em he'll seal em. I think we've all seen how that works out for gojo.
Jackie chun is not roshi because roshi is bald we may never know who Jackie chun is
Dagon being island level because he can create an island is the dumbest argument I've ever heard
Fr, is the same thing as saying "yugi from yu-gi-oh is god level because he can summon gods" creating something and destroying it require completly different powers.
@@roseoliveira6709creating something with energy requires more energy output ur just a dumbass
Like saying megumi is country/continent level just because mahoraga can level a whole country in a few minutes
@@DS123-gb8tfMahoraga can’t do that anyway lmao
@@hatman9609 yes mahoraga can as long attack don’t one shot
Phase 2:
“It’s not looking good” killed me
Gojo is considered the sorcerer because his techniques have little to no counter. Not because he's physically stronger than everyone else.
except currently other than sukuna he is physically stronger than everyone in jjk
I mean he is also physically like top 2 strongest
Still doesn't help him when he the characters he's facing are too fast to be seen or already blew up the planet
No character has ever destroyed a planet as their first resort.
@@luislaijakid buu did if I remember correctly
The vid should just be 0.05 sec stops at kid goku
0:05 i meant
If your referring to gokus first appearance the gojo literally out punches him. If you mean kid Goku post demon king piccolo fight I kinda agree tbh, tho it would still be somewhat in the air
Awh. This was fun to watch. This is why you don’t compare character from one anime to another.
Thank God there are geeks of this level to create this kind of content. It's a very complex contemporary philosophy to consider certain things and mix completely different universes.
Seth keeps my depression at bay, and has been doing that since 2017
Hope everything is well with you.
Depression is serious u need real life connection too get some hoes bro
hope everything is well
Don't let that shit get you man your mental durability is too high for that
Depression is for women Man up you have a legacy to leave behind
Haven't watched Seth in years now and this popped on my feed.
Damn, this is good.
Just straight, good, well edited, well spoken, well wanked video.
😂he gotta watch his tone now.
Even if his defensive hacks carried hard, he’d need the attack potency and speed otherwise its a stalemate
Or stamina most JJK fights aren’t as long or physically demanding
6:02, scariest frame ever in jjk, .25 playback speed immediate pause required oml
Gojo is below the dirt in popo's pecking order
I don't understand how people think that Gojo needs to activate it when Gojo directly says that he made it automatic, that it WAS manual, but is no longer manual. We also see Gojo being surprised and unable to react but with his infinity still active and stabbed (When Toji hit him with the Infinite Spear of Heaven)
The entire point of the spear was to nullify infinity
the infinity dependent on reaction speed argument presented here is probably the best one ive heard, but i still think its a super big downplay.
i always interpreted the hidden inventory arc thing by saying that "infinity: the technique" is the thing that needs to determine what is or isn't a threat, and therefore block that object that infinity perceives, not gojo.
this, on top of the fact that gojo, without DOUBT has the technique going at 24/7 should imply such an interpretation of the technique being passive.
shouko said he'd get tired doing it 24/7. gojo said he'd constantly rct his brain. what was the point of this conversation if not to convey the fact that gojo would be having his infinity technique active 24/7?
the reaction speed argument at all just doesn't work with this line of logic. infinity is passive, and at any moment it decides what gets through and what doesn't automatically like a threat perception. gojo can turn it on and off at will, say to let his friends/ teachers/ students/ enemies get through to him for whatever reason, but the threat perception is automatic and passive, hence constantly active, hence non-speed-blitzable.
all in all, i just wanted to say, even a low-balled gojo should a bit more confidently have a higher interpretation, and downplaying infinity down to needing reaction time is selectively ignoring the conversation in hidden inventory.
Literally thought of this exactly when I heard him downplay gojo so heavy😂😭
Yeah exactly, Gojo is only tired by infinity before he has his enlightenment, then he basically triggers one of those bullshit infinity feedback loops that the devs forgot to nerf and he can keep going forever without conscious effort.
A had this thought even before this video that infinity is not passive but completely depend on six eyes perception and its six eyes that grant the ability to sense and detect threat cause of enhance sense and brain power. Infinity is all around gojo, six eyes have 360 radar vision. Infinty select objects on mass, speed and ce, six eyes can detect every aspect of these properties at atomic level.
It can also be major reason why no gojo clan user has infinity since only six eye have such perception to make it worthwhile 24×7 and since his brain power is enhanced at atomic level he can train his subconscious mind to say what is a threat based on six eyes input that it can remain on through his sleep and why no one can blitz infinity is because it is six eyes enhace perception which can track down from kilometers but since every eye have a certain speed we can't perceive then six eyes would be same just alot powerful and blitzing more than anything sukuna(top) could pull of cause their base stats are relative and six eyes go beyond his base stats but buff in perception
It is six eyes which provide input of threat for his infinity not like spider sense mate
No it was six eyes which tied him out cause to make infinity run 24×7 even for 2 days it need six eyes full perception info input of surrounding to his brain which tied out after 2days of constant work done selecting what is a threat or not based on massive info dump from his six eye to reinforce his infinity to that degree when to keep it chill. Also his brain power was also enhanced that was the reason he tried out so much after constant use of six eyes at their fullest.
And kid gojo won't have to keep up infinity i.e why he was not wearing glassed at young age cause his brain was just collecting info dump not using then or retaining those info of surrounding.
Well when you have characters that are strong enough to move through the stoppage of time out of sheer willpower/strength gojo doesn’t fare too well against said characters, who could most likely just raw dog their way through infinity just cuz they increased their power to beyond their limits.😂
Even BETTER Debate: Piccolo Vs The Moon, Who Wins?
Demon King Piccolo seems like a stretch, considering he can turn island sized cities to barren wastelands in seconds. Once you start getting to the more inhuman/alien threats, i feel like thats where Gojo probably gonna struggle.
Domain expansion: gets Nappa'd.
Gojo stop at King Piccolo if being generous.
I mean he loses to master roshi but he would win against king piccolo so it's kinda weird
@tordonkin8018 He not beating King Piccolo. It straight up impossible for him.
@doctorwho3708 unlimited void. He does not need to kill him with brute force if he can fry his mind
*he would kill him by frying his mind
@tordonkin8018 Ulimate Void doesn't fry the brain though. It more of looping the first second of thought.
If it actaully fry the brain, then a certain curse spirit wouldn't have survive and came back.
Hell, even Gojo was able to fire off the Ulimate Void against a superior fighter who is by far faster and stronger them Gojo, he wouldn't be able to do any real damage with Purple or anything else.
Gojo have no actaul way to win and baiscally have stall techquies against King Piccolo.
And people think that gojo can beat Goku. Goku can literally punch through infinite by the way
Lol. No. Infinite is an Infinite 4D hax. Goku doesn’t have the AP.
@@PensiveAnalysis Just by powering up, Goku can shake an infinite void.
@@PensiveAnalysis Both Goku and Jiren literally punched through time, scaling them above 4D, also instant transmission exists. Infinite got broken by DB level fodder in comparison.
@@jackk.4670 so shaking nothingness is impressive now?😭
@@Edelweiss1102 no. Lmfao. This same disingenuous time shit that each & every one of you people use. Vados blatantly stated that if you’re stronger, you negate Hit’s ability. Not literally transcending time. 😂🤣
Also, even if Goku did IT to Gojo, he would then get stuck inside Infinity as he would then physically occupy space where Infinity is dividing the space infinitely, hence leaving Goku stuck & vulnerable to literally anything Gojo wants to do.
Also, again since you people can’t fucking read, Infinity is INFINITE 4D. So EVEN IF Goku had 4D AP, you can’t overcome Infinite with Finite.
Learn how to read.
as someone who doesn't know anything about jjk beyond hallow purple, this was incomprehensible, have a nice day
Maaaan THIS is 1 in depth ass video, you went in🔥
As JJK fan, i know he is not surviving of Bulma car
I actually like how varied the intepretations for JJK can be; specifically taking the lower end.
It allows for vs matchups with characters from verses that are more technical and down to earth in power like Hunter x Hunter.
I feel like these kinds of verses are super under represented in vs matchups because they just get stomped by some random continent/planet buster that's trash in their own verse.
Gojo's infinity is active while he's sleeping so it isn't reliant on his active perception.
It is shown to be able to be bypassed by stronger enemies on multiple occasions. Buu could poke Gojo in the eyes with no repercussions
@@DeviousCockroach name a few examples
@@NeckBoneCollector Remember when Sukuna turned him into Go/jo?
@@DeviousCockroach no that didnt mean anything, any person who can cut through dimensions or space can bypass infinity it just have to have a technique or strength feats to bypass infinity, goku being multiversal doesn't mean he can use his speed to bypass infinity
@@NeckBoneCollector No? It is shown that anyone faster than Gojo can bypass infinity. Goku is massively faster than Gojo so he would easily bypass infinity with a simple ki blast.
The issue about the lightning bolt is that it's often depicted to be moving relatively slow compared to actual lightning. We can see the raindrops and glass shards moving as the lightning bolt approaches Toji. So either the lightning bolts are actually lightning speed and the rain is also travelling lightning speed, or they are travelling much, much slower. Even then, lightning travels at 120,000 m/s. This is massively below the speed of light, more than 2000 times slower.
I think it's safe to say that it's cursed energy that mimics the properties of lightning, ie imitates superhot plasma with current, rather than calling it an actual lightning bolt. This definition would make a lot more sense, especially considering no one in the anime shows the durability needed to even shrug off an actual lightning bolt, considering they are 5x hotter than the surface of the Sun. The burn damage would be considerable. Especially considering how the lightning bolt actually affects objects, we can see it causes an explosion which is contrary to what would happen if lightning stuck concrete buildings, the lightning would be focused into the rebar and head to ground. In the cases where they have destroyed the surface of concrete, they are usually focused there by metals like flag poles and the concrete itself would have no rebar inside it. And when they do damage concrete, the damage is never as great as shown, so unless they are unleashing attacks with thousands to millions of times of more power than the yield of a nuclear reactor in a year, they aren't lightning bolts.
I believe that Toji is in the Mach level.
Kashimo’s lightning is his raw cursed energy which has a speed we can calculate and I’ll be dam surprised if it is lightning speed and no character that we see dodges Nue’s lightning not even Machi.
You do gotta realize just how strong dragonball characters are, COMPARED to other anime characters. We all know Yamcha is the weakest Z fighter, but he’s actually strong enough to one shot humans with a punch prolly. Most anime characters can’t do that without a certain technique or weapon.
Bro would not get passed og dragon ball
@@Siu34-z7u bro doesn't know how to scale💀💀💀
@@Siu34-z7u whats your disc?
Gojo does not get past OG demon king Picolo
Gojo does not get past anyone that can throw a ki blast. Infinity only slows material objects, ki is energy and positive energy at that (so it cancels cursed energy). Even Yamcha would destroy him.
@@dentkortJogo is a material object?
@@kristianperez4108 Yes
@@dentkort No he's made of Cursed Energy
@@kristianperez4108 Still a physical being
But let's assume he isn't
Domains can overwhelm infinity
But domains are also made of cursed energy
If ki is cursed energy then a basic ki blast will overwhelm infinity because they pack enough power to destroy the moon as early as the saiyan saga
If ki is positive energy then we already saw what it does to curses (instantly kills them because both energies are negated on contact) so the same would happen to infinity
New video idea: Gojo vs Bulma isn't even close
SETH THIS THE FOURTH CHANNEL YOU BEEN A APART OF MY WHOLE CHILDHOOD
I’m gonna hold your hand when I tell you this…he part of the diddy crew with drake
@@gamemasteroffun nawh aint no way
@@trelljohnson1042 oh boy. Yeah he was getting nudes from under 18 year old girls and straight up admitted to it on recording.
@@trelljohnson1042 Im afraid hge is thats why he switched channels
Raditz saga only, kid buu is a different story. Kid buu might as well demolish him in afterlife after gojo dies lol
Give yajirobe a cursed tool he’s soloing the entire verse
"Hey nappa blow up that blue looking planet"
It IS answered tho. In the manga and anime. Gojo absolutely does not have to perceive or even know about something for limitless to block it. He applies a passive filter. He says this after the Toji fight when talking to Geto about running Reverse Cursed Technique constantly to prevent his brain from being fried from constantly having Infinity active 24/7, which he now can do because of RCT.
Edit: to be clear, he wasn’t able to do this before unlocking Reverse Cursed Technique.
The filter can still be broken through by things like poison
so basically the filter gets blitzed
seth dropping respect on one piece is extremely unexpected and appreciated
One piece is trash.
@@gladiatorgaming7979 One Piece is based
@@gladiatorgaming7979Luffy would still fight for you even though you're dumb
@@gladiatorgaming7979 It's better than dragon ball in almost every way but you're not ready for that conversation
He'll most likely stop when the enemy has a planet destroying blast
@@Siu34-z7u what i was saying was when the db characters that has the ability to destroy planets fights gojo, they'll most likely realize that they can't win by just punching and kickin and energy blasts. So obv they'll resort to just blowing up the planet. Gojo can't breath in space if he ever survive the explosion. So hence, gojo stops when characters can just blow up the planet.
@@BlefAnimsmost characters in z couldn't breathe in space either
@@PhillyTheKid Alot of them could other than the sayains. which bring space pods withn them when the conquer planets sooooo.
@@PhillyTheKidA lot can breathe in space tho. And saiyans can’t breathe in space but they can hold their breath long enough to fight. It was shown in the bardock vs frieza fight when they where fighting in space.
Scaling in JJK is inherently broken regardless of how you approach these match ups. Anyone with enough energy to generate space or slow things infinitely without even feeling strain from it should have enough energy to blast whole universes apart casually.
The slap that bulma gave to beerus is enough for gojo.
He would probably be able to reach Picollo Senior in Dragon Ball Classic, but unfortunately he would die
Classic Dragon Ball already has characters that are FTL to FTL+ and Moon to possibly Planetary levels of power, the only thing that allows him to survive is his infinity.
Infinity really do be carrying him not gonna lie LOL
11:49 Oh heard about this, if this is the case then yea its GOjover bro.
Infinity is his ability though. That’s like saying goku is carried by ki attacks. That Eren is carried by his titan abilities. That ash Ketchum is carried by pokemon. That ichigo is carried by his zanpakuto. lol
@@FTL_SANbut goku isnt carried by ki attacks matter of fact he rarely uses them. now if you meant ki, I guess, but everyone has ki
@@FTL_SAN Im saying that the only reason he could survive is because of his infinity since pretty much all of his other abilities are easily dodgeable or arent strong enough to do anything.
@@Lu6dGoku without ki literally gets hurt from small pebbles lmfao
Dragon ball isn’t planetary until dbz. Smh
Wait..This guy is the same Seth the programer??
Exactly I was like this guy actually came back
i’m glad you brought up jjk probably doesn’t even scale to hxh and mha im so tired of people thinking a city level anime is beating anyone
gojo is a big fish in an extremely itty bitty tiny pond
does buu even have a brain? or organs got that matter what even is he made of
He does have organs, we can see when vegito absorb by buu. we can inside of him. we dont what he made of yet He is have absurdly fast regen
@@yadirect dawg wht?
@@thanks_f0ryeah in dbz buu turns vegito into candy and then goku and vegeta inside buu goes up to his brain
So are all new anime and Manga series just trying to get as strong as the older ones ? It's like you're in a ranked tournament. Instead of gold and diamond, you have Naruto,bleach, dragon ball. So what would be in the highest tier?
No they’re not trying. People just compare them. The writers usually aren’t thinking, how do I make him stronger or weaker than this other series.
I could imagine that. The one piece cup, the bIeach cup, the naruto cup, the DBZ cup and then the saint seiya or some other obscure OP shounen cup
modern shonen have moved past the days of immense powercreep
@@Sundilio doubt
naa, just modern reaers have soo much brain rot they only value power & flash & treat anything that isn't current thing as trash
I feel like when Seth gets around his boys, he pretends like he doesn't know how infinity works and downplays it. He described Infinity so half-heartedly to avoid making his friends sound incompetent because they don't know what they're talking about. Probably for a few reasons bias towards the shows they grew up with, a hate for the JJK fanbase (understandable), not caring about the manga/anime, a lack of understanding, or all of the above. If Gojo brain has to perceive you to categorize you as a threat 12:30 then what was the point of him creating a condition based on mass, speed, and curse energy? Why would he create a way to make it passive, via always having infinity on by refreshing his brain, if the discernment of the object coming towards him still required visual input from Gojo. What about attacks from behind? If your proposal for the skeptics were true, Gojo wouldn't be seen as impossible to take down because you could just find him when he's taking a nap and stab him in his back. And you know this Seth, I watched your Gojo vs Kakashi video, great vid btw. But you gotta let these F.A.Ns know what it is. You're not getting past infinity unless you have infinite speed, Hax that negate abilities like true seeking orbs, or space/time altering attacks. I agree with everything else you say in the video. But I would hate for more people to think blitzing Gojo with finite speed is an option. Aren't Sukuna's regular cleaves invisible with no mass, so if it's based off Gojo's perceptions, then how come Sukuna was unable to use it on Gojo until he developed a slash that could cut space?
No-one ordered a yappochino
@@nani458 yeah I didn’t notice how much it was until I saw it all typed out lol
so the earliest complete hard stop would be
meta-cooler! he justruns faster than teleportation, hes getting past infinity
@@XandusKee you can’t outrun infinity 😭 even if he’s faster than teleportation, teleportation still has a finite speed. You need infinite speed, ability negating hax, or space time attacks/abilities.
@@FTL_SAN not teleportation as in very fast, literally 0 time, running faster than teleportation is infinite speed
Thanks for the spoiler warnings here
It's honestly insane how well done the first sections are and then how lazy and outright disingenuous the latter parts are. Like are we serious? You go through great lengths to explain the depth of Gojo's defense and then give like 3 sentences saying a (seemingly fodder) character would touch him (which is not possible with physical contact or through energy attacks) and he dies instantly. I get that Gojo isn't that strong in a DBZ universe because (forgive me Toriyama) DBZ's scaling has always been ridiculous (Roshi destroying the moon, etc.) but at least give Gojo the credit he deserves and have him lose vs someone who actually has the capabilities of defeating him.
The fact that Gojo has RCT meaning he would need to be destroyed in an instant as well. Which is already proven to be a difficult thing with infinity.
Aside from Infinity and blue you don't mention Gojo's cursed techniques or how Cursed Energy can be manipulated, The fact that Gojo is a brilliant strategist with a very high battle IQ, his Six eyes, or any cursed tools Gojo can equip himself with.
I can give you a rundown of how Raditz would lose (despite being physically stronger.)
Gojo uses the fact that Raditz doesn't know of his abilities to bait an attack >
Raditz instantly would be caught within limitless, giving Gojo ample opportunity to counterattack >
Gojo uses his cursed technique to (near instantly) destroy Raditz's arms and legs (similar to Juzo Kumiya) >
Gojo finishes him off with any number of attacks.
All this video chalked up to was a bunch of glazing of DBZ scaling, like every other power scaling youtuber...
and you had like 1-5 lines about anything other than DBZ (or JJK).
Anyone faster than the speed of sound is cooking gojo.
Nuh uh
Infinity
@@narrativeless404 infinity which can't block light and air molecules cuz gojo isn't invisible and dead.
@@Swagtrap_CZ Doesn't _matter_
All physical matter will get slowed down to a standstill no matter how fast it moves
Objects don't turn into electromagnetic radiation just by moving at lightspeed yk?
But even then, there are some implications that would let to assume Infinity can block EM waves too if they are harmful, judging by the fact the light around Infinity appears distorted.
So i think Infinity can stop anything if it travels in space
@@narrativeless404 air molecules are physical matter. Everything around you. Even light particles (photons) are physical matter. Your point? Gojo is just a weak ass fraud i could beat in a fight if i had a gun and a single grenade
@@narrativeless404 "all physical matter gets slowed down to a standstill no matter how fast it moves" you do realise air molecules are physical matter aswell right? If it truly stopped any physical matter gojo would just suffocate and die.
How about Gojo vs Sukuna the honest truth, of course you’ve said your take of that on stream but a lot of people still think Gojo is stronger and just say Sukuna couldn’t use his complete arsenal of abilities on Gojo thanks to the limitless in response to Gojo saying Sukuna wasn’t giving it his all and didn’t think he could beat Sukuna w/o 10 shadows, some even cite Clyde’s video to be what would have happened realistically if Gege was consistent or something
I ain't read or watch jjk but I know gojo slaps in a fair 1v1
@@justanaverageenjoyer8494 Then you don’t know bro 💀 you literally haven’t watched or read it so you’re literally only speaking based on what? TH-cam short recaps?
@@LandrixM all I know is that that dude Sukuna can cut shit and gojo is untouchable, infinite energy, has universal pull and all mighty push, can teleport, the Byakugan and some purple ball that can destroy anything
How did bro loose 💀?
@@justanaverageenjoyer8494 Sukuna had two plans, number one was using Mahoraga to adapt to gojos ability to be untouchable, but Gojo managed to destroy Mahoraga before he could fully adapt, but by then sukuna already figured out how gojos ability worked and combined his two versions of his slash to cut the space itself that Gojo was in, which is how he won
So yeah he just needed to stall the fight long enough to figure out how to do that, which he did, so he did beat Gojo with his own abilities
Infinity is not based on reaction speed at all, otherwise Kenjaku’s plan would have been to just take a gun and shoot Gojo in the face while he’s asleep lol. Gojo infinity has stopped objects that he had no way of reacting to, like attacks from his blindspots. Infinity can not be speed blitzed….
hmm well i think it can be speed blitzed if u take into acc gojo uses it against ppl/curses which dont have nearly as speed feats as the current db verse, so id say infinity is speedblitzable, just not in jjk verse's lvl of speed
@user-eo5mr2mj1c thats just wishful thinking but can't be proven unless infinity gets bypassed in the series by a level of speed that characters from dB are faster than which never happened
@@esdrascristobal Yeah, there’s no evidence to support that’s how infinity works lol.
@@esdrascristobal That goes against the very natue of infinity. Gojo's infinity can divide the soace between matter and himself infinitely (which means nothing automatically detected as a threat can ever reach him, regardless of speed). Only if Gojo willingly and consciously lets it pass infinity, or if you can somehow attack him without any kind of movement (the attack would need to literally teleport onto Gojo)
@@FilipeG96 eye blast (sets of an explosion to where your enemy is) flash strike(vegetas technique sets of an explosion to where your enemy is) he's only lasting up to saiyan saga
people dont understand how WILD the dbz power scaling is
Vegeta: *grabs gojo*
“This is for you Bulma, Trunks, And even you, Kakarot”
Gojo doesnt get out of Dragonball. Maybe up to Tien but he aint Moon level nor can Gojo move faster than the solar flare so maybe Krillin or Yamcha from the Crane Hermit Arc
And nobody in any of those arcs can bypass infinity
@@SosukeTYBWYou don’t need much to be able to bypass infinity. Perception blitz and it’s done.
@@SosukeTYBW gojo meat rider
@thelettucebarrel7784 how can you be so wrong lol do you have eyes? We literally see infinity stop things gojo isn't even aware of and on top of that gojo in the Manga can just say "nope" to everything when yuji had to tell him to chill cause they couldn't touch him through infinity so it doesn't need to be a perceived threat
@@SosukeTYBW We've seen limits to Infinity. Its definitely lower than blowing up the freakin moon
Bro is edp with anime ffs 💀
Is gojo even making it past classic dragonball?
devilman would destroy gojo
@@vodkawhisperer3923devil man would kill ultra ego vegeta
@@unoriginalyoutubename8761 but of course
Even roshi wins with hypnosis.
@@unoriginalyoutubename8761 yeah he would
devil man can kill anyone with evil in their heart
and gojo defo has some evil in his lmao, bro goes crazy in some fights (literally)
Ends at Freiza.
no he doesnt even get past bulma 😂
Vegito when he was a chocolate ball obliterates gojo.
Gojo is very OP. I think he will murk most villains in OG Dragon Ball, except Piccolo. Dragon Ball Z villains, Gojo has no chance in hell.
Meh, he dies to master roshi. Infinity won't stop a ki blast as it's not a material object, so the kamehameha (which by the way, is positive energy which by JJK lore cancels cursed energy) will go right through and vaporize him.
Bojack will destroy Gojo respectfully.
@@dentkort Infinity stops anything deemed as a threat, not just material objects. It can stop pure CE so why wouldn't it stop pure Ki if said Ki is dangerous?
The positive energy point is also moot, positive energy doesn't cancel cursed energy, if that were the case then Gojo could just use Red through any technique and immediately dispel it because it uses Reverse Cursed Energy. Positive energy is especially strong against cursed spirits, that's all.
@@mist0804 When did it stop pure cursed energy? Honest question. But besides that, the selection process for what to stop and what not to stop in Infinity is subconscious. Already by the saiyan saga they're already moving at least dozens of times the speed of light, and ki waves are even faster. I don't know how fast subconscious thoughts are, but I'm betting they're much slower than the speed of light.
Positive energy is mutually annihilating with cursed energy, that's the whole reasoning behind hollow purple. Red doesn't do this because it has a strong repulsive effect that prevents things from actually touching the energy itself. A single ki blast from late Dragon Ball characters would, assuming ki is positive energy, be too much for Infinity to stop, be it because of its speed, or because the sheer amount of positive energy that is being cancelled out by the cursed energy would eat through Gojo's entire CE reserves and still have enough power to kill him a hundred times over.
I hope we can keep this civil. There are some people getting extremely angry in these comments and for no reason.
@@dentkort I can't remember a specific time off the top of my head where it stopped just pure cursed energy, but it should definetely be able to also stop cursed energy because if it couldn't all it would take is any CE projectile to bypass it and that just doesn't make sense for a technique that's so hyped up in-verse.
The selection process is subconscious, yes, but it doesn't constantly have to select what it lets through and what it doesn't, it just sets parameters (like a specific speed, shape and CE amount) and then stops whatever meets those parameters. Also, if we are using verse equalization, then Ki would be cursed energy since that's the basic power system. If we aren't, then you can't just assume Ki would work like what is called positive energy in JJK.
Frieza in the namek saga was stated to be universal
Kid goku >>>>> jjk verse
@@stephonwingard beerus is far beyond universal ehat are you on about
@@stephonwingard if you read the daizenshu you would know goku and beerus did a 5d feat
Bro I’m sure he’s a threat to the univers (aside from gods and gero’s scientific monstrosities there were like 3 other characters that could challenge him in universe 7 two of whom were sealed/imprisoned) but ain’t no way is bro blowing up the whole universe
@@Rl55322 you just can’t accept the fact that he is universal it was stated so many times
Anyone in dragonball that can't get pass infinity and has a brain gets negged, only names pose a threat are those who have no issue destroying the planet or something
yea gojo dosnt get passed a Saibaman
@@ShadowGarden45 and no saibamen even touches gojo so how relevant is your comment?
Or someone who can survive his domain and kill him like android 16
@Jsipki265 that's only if you think gojo dumb enough to pop his domain on something that doesn't have a functioning brain such as 16 so you'd literally have to argue gojo so dumb he'd never figure out 16 is all mechanical
No reason to believe a verse massively scaling over jjk would just get their brains negged. This is a laughable point.