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Sukuna had a greater advantage in their fight by having knowledge of Gojo’s complete arsenal, while Gojo did not
Gojo knows your CT just by looking at you so what else did he need to know?
@@helmtk4562 great point!!!
@@helmtk4562 Gojo can tell what your CT is but he cannot exactly know how it works the way Sukuna does know how Gojo's kit works because Gojo freaking explained it to Yuji who contains Sukuna within him LOL. Sukuna's arsenal was changed greatly by his binding vows so to assume Gojo would be able to tell how those binding vows amplify Sukuna's CT is just out right wrong as if something as broken as that could be down by the six eyes then how tf did it not tell Gojo that the slash sent by Sukuna was aimed at the space he exist onto thus bypassing infinity because it is applied to him and not the "space" that he exist in.
@@KeironRodriguez-jk2rzBcz that slash was used through a binding vow, not normally.
And gojo does know how a CT works by just looking at it as he literally explained how Miguel's CT worked by looking at him.
@@KeironRodriguez-jk2rz Gojo did not tell yuji how UV works he only spoke about how domains work and sukuna work it out because he experienced it and if gojo wanted to know about MS he could have asked choso or even angel since they knew he had an open domain
If he survives to his prime as we saw him the story then he’d probably use more binding vows like Sukuna. Since I think he would be pushed to do so by the many special grade sorcerers around at that time looking for a fight. I really think if he was born and raised in the Heian Era he’d be a lot like Sukuna just without his extra arms and face.
Also he probably wouldn't be an evil cannibal
@@duckless5463 thats true
Vibra Slap Todo Feat Gojo would be the end of every1 and everything in any era
Also don’t forget due to domains not focusing on sure hits but rather an extension of the CT in the heian era, gojo would have to think more and adapt to those acts rather than a straight domain clash
@@snax7760would he? he would be like sukuna where his ct and domain are just so much more overpowered that it really wouldn’t make him adapt that much
I made the same argument a while back. If Gojo had grown up with actual competition there is no doubt in my mind that he cooks Sukuna. I mean my man had only one hard match in his 29 yrs and then he was fighting the binding vow spammer, and doing well!
My thoughts exactly
Sukuna only used one binding vow during the gojo fight tho
@@DstruggleOng At least 3.
1)For open DE
2)For win in second DE battle
3)For world-cutting slash without conditions.
So why didn’t the people of the past do that?
Because of balance in the JJK world.
Gojo was born and stronger curses emerged.
Why do u think Gojo is considered the strongest 6 eyes user in history. It’s Because of balance. With all the strong sorcerers running around it would be impossible for a 6 eyes users to be that strong.
Acting like using binding vows is cheating when everyone can use it. Not his fault he understands how to use it better than the rest
The only thing Gojo was lacking in comparison to Sukuna was his mentality. He was burdened by his title as the strongest while Sukuna relished in it. Like if you get rid of Gojo’s weight off his shoulders and make him relish in his power then he’d just be as a big a threat as Sukuna. Could potentially beat him depending on if Gojo uses more binding vows, the applications of his domain and any other abilities he could acquire through awakening a similar mentality as Sukuna.
If there would be any scenario where Gojo adopts that mindset it would be the Heian era... literally everyone sorcerer was deranged except Angel XD
@@Allons-Y-04Can you refresh that?
@Allons-Y-04 You can't call Angel sane, I mean she literally said that she would only free Gojo if the others help her beat The Falllen, who was Sukuna, even though freeing Gojo as soon as possible would have ended the ruling games.
@@godzillagaming5797 Culling games.
Gojo could’ve been Sukuna is Geto didn’t stop him.
If Gojo was from the Heian Era, he would’ve folded Sukuna.
Nope
@@JD-pg4trlol how not? When he was folding him 😂😂
@@JD-pg4trsukuna without 10 shadows dont stand a chance
@@maxxopain5909 not true
Cap read 236 and take your nap lil bro
Imagine walking into a random area with a guy standing still like he's seeing god, then u get too close and you just gain info it's knowledge
Tuna??
Tuna
Seeing god jus like bro
Yellowfin tuna
@@randomguy9871 Mustard leaf,Mayo
Imagine gojo was in constant competetion during his life
Bruh thats scary
i mean even the biggest competition would've been yorozu and she got wiped by 15f meguna easily.
gojo no diffed everyone until sukuna came. THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A WAY TO DESTROY THE FINGERS
Gojo was bending Sukuna over before Mahoraga joined the fight; the fact of the matter is that Sukuna used the Megumi Special, and if he hadn't, he would have been folded and put in Gojo's sock drawer.
It feels like people forget that and meatrides his statement "I don't think I would've won if he wasn't using the ten shadows". He literally knocked him unconscious and had him in his infinite void. Hell he literally almost had the win if it wasn't for him having a yap session at the very end
@@Varxiiiwe havnt forgotten it, its just irrelevant since those things wouldnt have happened if Sukuna wasnt rocking mahoraga. Its you guys that keep forgetting that there are drawbacks to using mahoragas adaptation such as not being able to use anything else but the ten shadows technique, not being able to use domain amplification, having to play an entirely defensive game where taking non lethal hits speeds up the process.
Yall like to compare the fight as if Sukuna would do the same stuff when not having mahoraga. Its just illogical.
@PandoloFox yeah but I think they would domain clash the same way because if gojo domains first either sukuna does or he dies. And we see very clearly that gojo definitively wins in a domain clash scenario. And getting caught in gojos domain is death. End of story.
@@charadreemurr7177 It wouldnt, its already been stated by gojo in the domain clashes that Sukuna was attempting risky shit to prolong the domain clashes. In a fight without mahoraga Sukuna would not do this.
Him and sukuna would either be bullying each other or best freinds
*If Sukuna was nervous the World Slash, Ten Shadows and His Heian Form wouldn't be enough for Gojo safe to say if Gojo got sent back to the Heian Era he pretty much low diffs Sukuna*
Gojotards are funny 😂
If gojo went for the head he would've won
@@niemand9914 ESPECIALLY when he hit the Black Flash
i mean gojo was that strong. i'd be nervous too. although i still see the fight being high diff but that's imo
@@Icyhot_majin yup me personally if I was Sukuna I would've done much worse, I can see why you can think it's a high diff but to me I think the difference in Stats and abilities would be enough to be a low diff in Gojo's favour
The only reason Sukuna lived past the 6-part domain clash is that he popped Mahoraga just in time. He would have dead *lost* if Mahoraga hadn't been there. He also would have lost to the Purple Nuke if Mahoraga hadn't adapted to Limitless as much as it did. Fun.
Two wrong statements here. Sukuna didn't luckily summon Mahoraga, Mahoraga was already summoned and simply appeared when Sukuna was incapacitated. That is how Sukuna used the wheel even without Mahoraga present- technically, the shikigami was still hiding in his shadow.
Second, this is outright stated to be untrue. How only was Mahoraga killed, we don't even know if Mahoraga's adaptations can transfer directly to the host. The adaptations could've even reverted once Maho died. Furthermore, was nd most damningly, it was STATED by GOJO that SUKUNA did not adapt to Limitless, only Mahoraga did.
@@prez.cookie980 The whole point is that Heian Sukuna would not have Mahoraga to save his life OR to help him develop the world-cutting slash, hence hewould have dead lost if Mahoraga wasn't there. It doesn't make a difference if Mahoraga was auto-summoned with a binding vow, or if it was summoned the whole time and hid in the shadows, or if it came on its own to protect its owner from death after having been tamed for the first time in history. And getting stuck on that part of the sentence while ignoring the main point, is something you shouldn't do
something else to keep in mind is that Gojo's domain is more deadly than Sukuna's. You can RCT from slashes if they don't turn you into minecraft blocks instantly, and if your RCT is strong enough, even if only for a few seconds, giving you a chance to at least try something. However, you can't RCT from being fully stunned within UV. If Sukuna has 0 knowledge about Gojo's domain, given how common domains were in the Heian Era, there's a very real possibility that Sukuna would want to see what Gojo's domain can do, not expecting it to be so busted, and straight up die because of it. Even if he takes it seriously, if his domain doesn't one shot Gojo, and their fight follows the same progression of Gojo losing 2 domain clashes, then having 2 draws, then having 1 win, Gojo's one out of five domain battle wins kills Sukuna on the spot. Sukuna needs to win multiple domain battles to kill Gojo, wearing his RCT down until Gojo can either no longer heal himself, or no longer open his domain, but all Gojo needs is 1 second and Sukuna is stunned with no Mahoraga to save him
Honestly Gojo could just spam his second domain tactic, making his exterior barrier resistant to slashes, meaning Sukuna would have to touch him for the binding vow to strengthen MS. Then all Gojo has to do, knowing that Sukuna will try to touch him, is keep that in mind and not let Sukuna touch him. If he knows it's coming it's easier to avoid, and again all Gojo has to do is succeed once out of 5 domain battles
@@AstroCS2 you critically misunderstood this conversation (talking about how a domain clash would go if Gojo had an open domain) and how the Sukuna vs Gojo fight actually went. Sukuna did NOT have a binding vow that strengthened his slashes if he made contact with Gojo. He had a binding vow that strengthened his slashes OUTSIDE Gojo's barrier in exchange for removing his slashes from INSIDE the barrier. The result is that Gojo's surehit is no longer cancelled, so Sukuna needs to find a way around Infinite Void. Domain Amplification works, but he can't adapt while using it, so it would work on the short term but lose for his adaptation plan. He remembered that Yuji wasn't targeted when Gojo fought Jogo, and figured anyone in contact with Gojo is excluded from the surehit effect. So, he made sure to stay in contact with Gojo to adapt to his domain whilst avoiding the damage
@@prez.cookie980 That is what I said though, I never said Sukuna had a binding vow to make his slashes on Gojo stronger, i said he had to touch Gojo and disable his own sure hit in order to use a binding vow to buff his slashes on the outside of Gojo's barrier (domain barrier) which is what broke Unlimited Void's barrier and hence the domain
Also Sukuna touching Gojo means he is not hit by the Unlimited Void sure hit, so that does not make him adapt. The adaptation comes from him disabling MS sure hit on Megumi's soul, and having Megumi's soul be constantly hit by Unlimited Void, with Mahoraga's wheel on Megumi. Something that Heina Era Sukuna would have no access to
"The only reason you were the strongest...
Was because I wasn't born yet"
🔥🔥✍️
*gets %50 percent discount*
I hope they add that line in the anime as his clapback to Sukuna
Proceeds to become half the man he used to be
who let this guy cook, dont cook again
@@kithicide this was in the actual manga
If Gojo had a barrierless domain it was over for
Sukuna the only reason he can beat Gojo is through
Domain expansion
Kelp!😀😀
Barrier less unlimited void is a nightmare 💀
This is still untrue. Even if UV was barrierless, Sukuna is superior in domain techniques overall, with better barrier proficiency and better domain amplification (if Gojo even HAS domain amplification). Sukuna's surehit is also FAR superior in terms of destroying other domains, which is what allowed him to win the clash. Yes, being barrierless helped significantly. But he would've won those clashes in the end anyways, since he has the ability to attack barriers with his surehit and Gojo doesn't.
@@prez.cookie980 UV and Malovelant shire already are equal in refinement if it becomes barrierless then by will be equal
completely than it comes to hand to hand combat and we all know how it is gonna go
@@Anixd094 Sukuna didn't get dominated in h2h up until he disabled his surehit inside, which buffed Gojo because domains buff stats. Yes, their domains would cancel if their range was identical, but this isn't exactly exclusively beneficial to Gojo. It would just mean Sukuna would need a separate solution to collapsing the barrier, and they would probably both compress their ranges to increase surehit potency.
Sakuna had to literally develop a move against gojo with the help of 2 other Shinigami to figure a way to get past his infinity reliably... Without them, sakuna is simply wiped. It literally shows that when both of them are gassed. Yet gojo hits a black flash, seems amped but then gets one shot due to a new move that sukuna just so happen to get when he was about to fall. If sakuna had not seen the move, he would have never came up with anything, maybe a binding vow... which is plot armor
Yep
So Black Flash, the literal luck-based ability, which Gojo landed like 4 of, isn't plot armor? If Sukuna landed 4 black flashes against Gojo, he would've died VERY briefly after.
@@prez.cookie980 Black flash gojo having had the record for.... lands another 4 as he (Has already done in the past)... binding vow, i give something up i receive something. it has merit, when used effectively. Nanami for instance. Sakuna since he has *knowledge can use binding vows to switch up domains... Has the ability to copy after seeing anything related to curse energy... luck-based- No. Its stated once a character hits the (zone) anyone can achieve a black flash.... As fights go on you may find yourself more in the zone.. pretty simple... There is a prerequisite to a black flash You have to Gain Something to get that something.... being in the zone. binding vows have NO prerequisite lol.
so Black Flash, the literal luck-based ability, which Gojo landed like 4 of, isn't plot armor? short answer- No Black flash can be achieved by being in the zone, not everyone can get to that point. binding vow anyone can do on the spot... binding vow=faith... black flash=beating mfs
@@DieHard1912this all means nothing and almost none of it is true. There is 1 sorcerer who can use black flash at will, and even then it’s only speculated. He got lucky
bro your content remains so well made, all of what you say makes sense, is easy to comprehend and follows a point, i love it
Imagine if Gojos domain didnt have a barrier, like sukuna domains, everything in 100 mile radius just gets hit with infinite void, imagine your just walking normally then you get 187 trillion informations in your mind.
Infinite information doesn't have n.os where are you getting those n.os 🤣
2 things that you probably should've taken into account are
1: he wouldn't have had a quidebook to the Limitless, nor would he have had as good of an understanding of it due to the lack of modern science.
2. Simple domain (and possibly falling blossom emotion) didnt exist back in the Heian Era. As far as we know, Hollow Wicker Basket was the only anti-domain technique that was known back then.
While yes that's true we've seen gojo be an innovator of his own technique on many occasions. I think removing the confines of what the limitless can do from his mind would open up more use cases for it because gojo would be forced to innovate even further on it.
There is no calculus in the Heian era, therefore Gojo must invent a new branch of maths to use these techniques.
Bro becomes Einstein before Einstein
@@echidnanatsuki882lol
in the words of Gojo "the only reason you were the Strongest was simply because I wasn't born yet."
Times were tough in the heian era and so were the villians. What I'm trying to say that gojo would load up on both knowledge and skill set as one of sukuna's main advantages over gojo was experience and knowedge giving him access to smart binding vows. Give gojo knowledge and domain buff and sukuna would've been cooked good.
I wanna say that everyone that keeps saying that "Gojo said he wasn't giving it his all" misunderstood it after this last chapter. After it said sakuna had to binding vow away the flames fighting gojo, you should be able to correlate it with gojo saying that. Remember gojo can see what you can do with your technique from his eyes, same way he looked at clone technique dude and others.
Reason he couldn’t use the flames was it said he kept changing the range of his domain so that fucked up his vows for flames. In theory if he just maxed the range for malevolent shrine he could use the flames
so it wasn't that he decided not to go all out but he COULDN'T go all out. Got you.
@@IsThatAThaiNameHe couldn't use it because he had to keep changing conditions, not range. He can only add so many conditions to his domain. His fire arrow requires two by default to be effective, but more importantly, it wouldn't really change anything. The fire arrow is overrated. If Choso could make Yuji walk out almost unscathed despite being much weaker, it isn't really doing much.
@@randomdude6446 choso likely used a binding vow to sacrifice his own life, and range is the condition the manga specified at least in the translation I saw
@@IsThatAThaiName The translations consistently emphasize conditions and range as for the whole binding vow thing gege would have stated so if that was the case
9:24 Hand signs and chants do not affect a domain's output
it was never done nor is there any reason to believe that is the case. In fact there is evidence suggesting otherwise.
they do, since the they affect ANY CT's output. That's why Yuta wasnt slice in half when he was hit with the World Cutting slash, since sukuna had to amend his incantations etc. ..
@@usedtobejosh_dinkshotst_t575?? I don't know if some of you do read The manga with close eyes?
World Slash literally cut Yuta in Half brother...
@@paochongloi596 uhm u and i both know yuta sliced in half was just confirmed in chapter 261 so i dint know when i was commenting. but yes, you are correct he got cut in half
WE NEED MORE WHAT IF'S. for example. What if Yuji had mahoraga's wheel OR what if Sukuna had another cursed technique. (please type your what ifs in the replies)
I might make a 'what if Yuta copied x CT' part 2... or maybe a what if Geto didn't go bad?
@@Allons-Y-04 or what if sukuna took over megumi in the start instead
What if Sukuna was stuck at 1 finger.
What if sukuna got projection sorcery or blood manipulation instead?
@@greezchum76 blood manipulation sukuna would go hard ngl
W video my mans
Thats also assuming that the current gojo has reached his full potential. I personally think gojo in hein era would be forced to push past his limits
He would be a monster
lime green
new gojo color
its pretty likely that sukuna learned to heal cursed technique burnout from gojo and its also pretty likely gojo sweeps in all categories due to the fact sukuna is probably a finger or two (possibly more) weaker as they got stronger in the thousand years of roaming (2-4x weaker if we say sukunas fingers are exponential, 5-10% if its just 5% per finger)
I personally feel it has to be exponential due to how much 15 Finger Sukuna dog-walked Jogo when Jogo is around 8 fingers but the power gap seemed much greater than just 2x
@@Jordan-ud4qv yea thats what i think too but it lacks the evidence so ill js go with what everyone else thinks
When they said sukuna's finger were growing stronger, they meant the presence of the fingers bc the seals were weakened, not that he literally got stronger
heian era gojo doesnt have simple domain since it wasnt a thing back then, gojo wouldve used hollow whisker basket which renders him unable to fight
I think it would be a cool vid to deep dive in CTs and theory craft their highest limits if we haven't seen them. Like if Sukuna only had Mei Mei's Crow ability, could he still be the King of Curses? Personally, I think the upper limits of Blood Manipulation is immortality and that was Tengen's technique.
If Gojo was born in the heian era i believe he'd be stronger due to the difference in total MONSTEROUS sorcerers there, the curve would lowkey send Gojo high in development.
to quote another commenter
"People are forgetting that sukuna is a literal veteran , he fought countless extremely strong sorcerers and even literal armies coming at him
While gojo, as talented and strong as he is,
He is just a spoiled, golden spoon brat who never had to try hard in a fight except once, and never had the chance to even sweat after he awakened,
he actually has zero real battle experience with his awakened powers, he didnt even had the chance to fight someone like ryo and uro, let alone someone like kashimo, the closest he had, is his students, but never a real battle to death,
hell, he never even met anyone who knew domain amplification and was actually able to touch him before jogo and hanami (he didnt know what it was, he figured it out during the fight.)
he even said it himself, he never had fight long enough to hit more than one black flash, and even jogo, who was probably the strongest curse he ever encountered, wasn't even interesting for him to take somewhat seriously
honestly, he probably didnt even know how strong was his full power purple until he used it against sukuna
hell
If he had grown up in the heian era he would have been a battle hardened experienced warrior like sukuna and not an extremely strong but overly confident newby
He would have been a completely different level of menace , a natural calamity, probably many times worse than sukuna,
with his raw talent, genius intellect, a life long experience in battle and his almost invincible CT, he would have become a literal god amongst men."
Also Sukuna has no world slash, since he learned that through the ten shadows technique during his fight with gojo, so he can't just one tap gojo
domain
@@Pbcvl His domain still can't one tap gojo as we've seen from their fight tho, Gojo was able to break Sukuna's domain multiple times
@@mrkimpa6273 what it was sukuna who was breaking gojo's domain mutiple times
@@sugan0052 gojo also broke sukuna's domain 3 times by dealing enough damage to him and even readjusted his domain's barriers with binding vows and had a domain stalemate with sukuna for 3 minutes, so it won't be that easy for Sukuna to kill Gojo with his domain
What if fuga is an ancient application of curse energy. For example. Dismantle. Cleave webdismantle and the world cutting slashes are all the usual applications of the curse technique but what if fuga works as a sorta indirect application. Where the way your cursed technique affects the real world ends up creating a new technique for you to use and during the heien era that was common knowledge that’s why jogo wasn’t aware of it
one thing you're missing
sukuna has the ability to use his domain after it was burned out by RCT by using a different part of his brain, meaning heian era sukuna wouldve used a domain after gojos had burned out
Gojo would probably be relative to the Chinese sorcerer that was not seen but said to be feared by Sukuna.
What sorcerer? And where was that stated? Idk about something this crucial?
@@Saakin1821bro the Chinese sorcerer is a common joke 💀
@@plab1151 oh
If you are making a video on gojo being born in the heian era also make sure to tweak their abilities acoording to the era as well.As we already know by now that a sorcerers abilities work differently according to the era and their surroundings.So most likely the gojo we see today with infinity would not be the same gojo in heian era because of difference in knowledge and era.
Well I’m no physicist so I can’t rly help with that one 😂
Infinity, though, would be the same. Cursed techniques don’t change depending on science or technology of the era. Though, how much Gojo understands it would be WAYY different.
Theory: We already had a "Heian Era Gojo", he was the Fujiwara guy.
Plot points foreshadowing him:
- He is a legendary sorcerer from the Heain era, also Gojo and Yuta's ancestor.
- He led a battle alongside the sky-distortion girl's clan against Sukuna (and lost).
- The sky-distortion girl though that Yuta was a Fujiwara based on his attitude, she even saw a flashback of the Fujiwara guy's silhouette.
U mean Suguwara Michizane? He was supposedly a 6eyes limitless user too yes.
To be clear uro mentioned Fujiwara completely separate from Suguwara. They are different clans
@@Allons-Y-04 oops my bad, I have to read some parts again
I saw this thumbnail 30 seconds ago and was like meg. Then i saw it was made by Allons and now im here ❤️
I of the biggest things you got wrong is that Gojo and Sukuna are equally talented that's not the case at all I will explain it like chess Gojo has a very big unfair adv against every other Sorcerer the 6 eyes Thai gives him way too much info and other things that other sorcerers don't have yet Sukuna Whose Base is just like any other Sorcerer has Six eyes level efficiency and can copy anything by seeing it once if gojo was as talented as sukuna he would be able to replicate the open domain by seeing it once which didn't happen .even though Gojo has such unfair adv due to six eyes he still can't output RCT unlike sukuna.
Gojo is talented but nowhere near Sukuna level no sorcerer is as talented like Sukuna. If Sukuna had six eyes + limitless he would surpass gojo by a mile and that's true
Btw great vid
Talent meaning natural aptitude or skill. Gojo’s six eyes and limitless are his talents since they are natural abilities given from birth while Sukuna’s large amount of CE reserves and efficiency were things he’s had since birth. Talent isn’t a thing that can be improved or taken it’s something the user has had since birth. It’s natural for them. We don’t even know how barrierless domains are made. They could just be made by making a binding vow that let’s people escape in exchange for increasing the range while Gojo’s wouldn’t be able to that since his Domain Expansion stuns the people inside it so no matter what they can’t escape making an exchange to increase the range for getting rid of the barrier have no drawbacks like a binding vow should. The reason Sukuna > Gojo is because that 20% percent of hard work applies to the application of one’s CT/CT(s) so using binding vows to his advantage, Sukuna was able to successfully land the world cutting slash with only 1 hand to kill Gojo by learning Mahoraga’s technique to bypass Limitless. Sukuna isn’t more talented than Gojo’s, he’s more skillful in using the abilities he’s acquired in the story to beat opponents on relative strength to him. 🤓
@@THED3ADLY7if I have an extra limb that doesn't mean I have high talent. Talent means skills from birth. Six eyes are not talent, they are physicality
@@THED3ADLY7 the six eyes are literally physical cheats I don't think that's a natural talent compared to sukuna who doesn't have the six eyes
@@Saakin1821Gojo had the six eyes from birth. You literally just said the same thing I said regarding talents. He’s had them since the moment he was conceived. We saw him have them a newborn baby, a child, a teen and a fully grown adult. Talent means skills from birth and CT(s) are talents since birth. Gege had mentioned this in the 1st season where CT(s) are 80% of sorcerer’s power and the other 20% is from mastering it. The limitless and six eyes are the Gojo clan specific talents much like the 10 shadows from the Zenin clan. They are all given from birth. Also the six eyes aren’t just an extra limb though they do so much more than that, they aren’t just there to look pretty so the comparison of extra limb to six eyes makes no sense since you can’t compare them. That’s like comparing a solar panel to a Dyson sphere. Lastly Sukuna’s large amount of CE is a cheat code so don’t act like the six eyes are doing Gojo much better since they equal out in their fight.
@@THED3ADLY7 And with all that sukuna is still more talented. Being able to do things by only seeing them once and his CE efficiency is second to none even now it has only reached yuta’s level after all the fighting.
People are forgetting that sukuna is a literal veteran , he fought countless extremely strong sorcerers and even literal armies coming at him
While gojo, as talented and strong as he is,
He is just a spoiled, golden spoon brat who never had to try hard in a fight except once, and never had the chance to even sweat after he awakened,
he actually has zero real battle experience with his awakened powers, he didnt even had the chance to fight someone like ryo and uro, let alone someone like kashimo, the closest he had, is his students, but never a real battle to death,
hell, he never even met anyone who knew domain amplification and was actually able to touch him before jogo and hanami (he didnt know what it was, he figured it out during the fight.)
he even said it himself, he never had fight long enough to hit more than one black flash, and even jogo, who was probably the strongest curse he ever encountered, wasn't even interesting for him to take somewhat seriously
honestly, he probably didnt even know how strong was his full power purple until he used it against sukuna
hell
If he had grown up in the heian era he would have been a battle hardened experienced warrior like sukuna and not an extremely strong but overly confident newby
He would have been a completely different level of menace , a natural calamity, probably many times worse than sukuna,
with his raw talent, genius intellect, a life long experience in battle and his almost invincible CT, he would have become a literal god amongst men.
yeah he would whoop sukunas ass
If I’m right about this since I’m still new to JJK, but Gojo abilities is literally quantum metaphysics right?
@@Yakobi24 well in a sense i guess, but its actually way more simple,
his power is to manifest math into reality
for example,
his blue-
he manifest an infinite series of negative numbers into reality in a certain area,
but the problem is, negative numbers don't really exist, so it creates some kind of a reality glitch, a hole in the fabric of reality,
so reality itself tries to correct the error, by filling said "hole" with the space and matter around it, problem is, is that the negative numbers are infinite, so no amount of matter will fill this "hole" ,and so effectively this blue area becomes a black hole of sorts that sucks in and destroys everything around it.
red- is the opposite of that, positive numbers that push space away from it,
infinity- Gojo is creating an infinite space around him, an infinite series gradually decreasing numbers, so nothing can actually close the distance( the technical explanation, is the "Achilles and the tortoise paradox" which in this context is explained as- the closer something gets to Gojo, the slower it becomes, so nothing ever reaches him.
Also, bit of a Gojo debuff, it’s likely Hollow Wicker Basket would replace Simple Domain and falling blossom emotion was likely not created just yet. This would change domain battles heavily
Simple domain didn't exist, Gojo would have to use Hollow wicker basket
What if every sixeyes user is the reincarnation
of the previous one🤔
Its not impossible ig
it's unlikely because of tengens explanation of kenjaku and the merger, tengen says that kenjaku has killed six eyes users both as adults and children but a new one manifested to stop him, this wouldn't be worth noting if kenjaku killed a six eyes and waited 15 years and be surprised about one appearing, making it more likely that an already existing sorcerer manifested or inherited the six eyes and intervened with kenjakus plan
@@joeyguss4931 I know dude i was just yapping
I’m pretty sure sukuna learned how to restore burnt rct from gojo
Yes Gojo do it infront of him and he learn it was watching
only one time
no he didn’t he already knew how it worked and the consequences and limitations before even doing it. He doesn’t have any ability to see how gojo did it
@@demarcusjones3219huh? The cast watching the fight I believe kusakabe and kashimo literally said gojo shouldn’t have shown sukuna that because he’ll learn it instantly which happened… wtf are you talking about
Sukuna understood what happens because his deep understanding of jujutsu and how it works. He knew it was stored in the brain. Doesn’t mean he knew he could rct his burnt out cursed technique. You need to go back and read because you’re clearly lackin on the subject.
@@kahlibbustos8523 no what they meant is if he didn’t already know it before he’d definitely know it now.+ logically you teach someone else about something you don’t alr know. he knew exactly the consequences, how to do it (zero practice) the limits of it and exactly how many times a person can do it before causing too much brain damage. all of which even gojo didn’t know
i also think he wouldve been able to predict sukuna using binding vows to bypass limits. We saw sukuna use binding vows but gojo didnt, so i think if gojo lived in heian era, he could have predicted something like the world cutting slash
Yes you did the one I picked
0:50 Holy guac.... Imma need your plug, where did you find this, of course it's for a friend.
Lmao I just looked up 'female mahoraga' on google images.. try it there is definitely some interesting stuff there haha
The one problem i see with scenario one is Hein Era Sukuna's physicality. We have to remember that Sukuna was in Megumi's body when he was fighting against Gojo which is nowhere near as physically strong as the Heian era Sukuna that is currently fighting everyone. A lot of the hand to hand exchanges between Sukuna and Gojo honestly would not go Gojo's way if they were to happen simply because Sukuna has much higher durability, speed, strength, and the extra arms.
This is the same Sukuna who bodied Kashimo in his mythical beast amber state, dodged his electro magnetic waves (which if you don't know move close to or at the speed of light), and killed him in less than two chapters. Literally a chapter prior to this, Sukuna was getting blitzed by Kashimo's lightning but when he transformed he is able to avoid full on EM waves. This is the same Sukuna who survived being stabbed in the heart with a soul splitting blade, survived getting hit with a domain expansion amplified Jacobs ladder, survived 9 soul targeting black flashes from an Itadori that is said to be surpassing Gojo, and beat up Maki who he himself compared to mahoraga all within the same day. His durability and endurance is just way too strong for Gojo to just bully him like he was doing while he was in Megumi's body.
Physically speaking, if Sukuna and Gojo were to have a hand to hand fight, it wouldn't go too well for Gojo. You can re-analyze the fight between the two of them and even see that a lot of the hits Gojo landed, he simply wouldn't have if Sukuna had extra arms, especially during their second domain clash. Try to disregard the extra arms all you want but those things do matter, especially with how Sukuna uses them on top of his insane physical buff he gets from being in his Heian era body. Those things can cover blind spots and openings or set up for absolutely brutal combinations like what happened when he "fought" Kashimo.
This doesn't exactly mean Sukuna would just bully Gojo either, there are definitely some things he could pull off with blue and red to get out of some of the combos Sukuna might try to put him in. But there doesn't really seem to be a real way for him to actually deal damage to Sukuna with just hands. Unless he hits a good 3-4 black flashes (and even then he still might not do much damage, especially after Sukuna ate 9 from Itadori who is at the point of surpassing gojo as said be the editor's comment.) he's not going to be able to do anything.
At the same time while Gojo could be levels stronger, so can Sukuna. If you can recall, Sukuna has repeatedly stated that he is not at 100% even in his Heian era form in the current chapters of the manga due to the brain damage he is still suffering from UV. So in this hypothetical he should also be stronger if they are fighting in the Heian era since Sukuna wouldn't be suffering from that brain damage.
An open barrier UV just sounds like the most broken thing in existence and the only way i can see this being a low diff in Gojo's favor is if he manages to pull his out before Sukuna manages to get his domain off. At that point it is completely GG for Sukuna, he's done since he can't switch out to Megumi to keep his brain from being completely fried.
Good video though, the first scenario was the only one i slightly disagreed with.
I mean I get u but Sukuna’s crazy strength and arms means nothing when Gojo can’t be touched, has hard hitting blue punches and is much faster… if Sukuna can’t beat the domain Gojo does genuinely no diff imo
Sukuna can't box Gojo because he can't hit Gojo. If Gojo didn't have infinity then I would agree but the amount of arms you have doesn't matter if you can't ever hit your opponent
@@Allons-Y-04 Well that's the point of Domain amp, Sukuna can use Domain amp while he's in a domain clash so him not being able to touch gojo doesn't matter when he can... touch Gojo. Also gojo is just not faster than Heian Sukuna, he has displayed nothing that puts him on that level in the series. We can't just say he is, we need evidence of this.
Even Heian Sukuna did the whole "moves so fast he looks like he's teleporting" thing against Maki so that definitely isn't a factor.
@@astreusastresus198 Domain amp go brr
@@indrainspace2601 I man Gojo can just straight up teleport bro... like he manipulates space to compress the distance between 2 points. He is levels faster... not seen Sukuna travel across the country and back in a matter of seconds lmao.
Even if Heian Sukuna uses domain amp he can't use his CT so its just punch kick merchant and no way is that enough to beat Satoru Gojo lmao
I do not ever see anybody talking about the possibility of gojo creating new techniques for infinity, taking into account for how talented he is
Open barrier infinite void sounds so cool. Like you enter and you are vegetable in an instant. Like some kind of ground 0
I will see you at the major.
Ay lets gooo
5:25 and you say "ohhh yuta was leagues ahead at understanding the fight" shut up man it was only ME
Gotta give the boy some props tho. He was able to pick up on Gojo's bloody nose and connected the dots between that and refreshing ur CT w/ RCT.
Kusakabe spent the whole fight confused bro XD
@@Allons-Y-04 called kusakabeGPT for a reason
9:36 Gojo when amplifying his hollow purple, he also did a dance, which isn’t possible for Sukuna to do as if he did that, he would just get destroyed while doing that, so realistically, Sukuna would only have like a 50-60% amp on his domain(or anything really), which is still bad for Gojo, but I just had to put this out just in case an argument that Gojo would in this scenario.
Considering we see Yuji has a different application of shrine than Sukuna due to him being born in the modern era I wonder what other applications of limitless would be
If you used the neutral aspect of limitless on someone else as the starting point could you freeze them in place? Every message sent through the neurons must cross an infinite distance
6:45 doesn't Sukuna have the highest output he has had in the current day? Since the power of his fingers grew with every passing day.
Nah that statement kinda got dropped and it shouldn't mean he gets higher output anyway. Ryu Ishigori has the highest output in recorded history
The King of Curses.
The Honored One.
The Strongest Sorcerer in History.
Satoru Gojo.
*ryomen sukuna (you're welcome)
@@xebec995 fraudjo so mid his fans need to come up with own fiction videos LMAO
@@filo-ii2hnseriously how much can you cope this is literal fanfiction but i guess at the end of the day it doesnt matter because gojo is dead and sukuna won
great video but one point i couldn't ignore is "even after awakening sukuna and some vengeful cursed spirits might be able to confront him" i would like to know who are these spirits and why are they on that strength level
Gojo is more of the type to grow a lot from greater challenges and even when the modern era couldn't offer as much as the haein era could've he stull grew to such extreme levels. So If he was truly from the haein era then he would've been on an insanely stronger level than both gojo and sukuna originally were.
How did y'all comment before the video started?
Bruh what?
Doesn’t matter six eyes yuta slams both
I mean I don't see how its possible for anyone to disagree with that.. just pure facts XD
Nah it’s pure love 😭
I think it would come down to talent, output, RCT speed and extent
@@I_AM_NOVA. Yuta doesn't lack these. He's top 2 in terms of output, and in talent, Yuta's the best in the series.
@@Lamorak241correction top 3
If gojo used a binding vow in the second domain clash when
Sukuna used his bounding vow,changes everything.if gojo used a binding vow to give up his sure hit effect of unlimited void in order to strengthen his barrier which means the domain barrier would be indestructible due to the binding vow. Which means gojo and sukuna now have to fight to determine who.wins. and with infinity gojo is most likely to win
“Here is my heian era anti-world-cutting slash technique”
I am now quesioning all of my life decisions because I understood this...
In terms of stats, Heian era Sakuna would've way more power compared to what we have seen as his stats is one finger higher because Heian era Sakuna has 20 fingers plus his head (equivalent to 1 finger) which is 21 fingers overall.
Sakuna's head from his corpse before he fought Gojo is used as a compensation for the missing final finger in order for Sakuna to reach 20 fingers.
This era would have a lot of disadvantages.
He doesn't know domain amplification.
He doesn't know how Gojo's ct works in detail.
Sukuna uses his secret binding vow technique and in exchange for his 2 special grade cursed tools he can refine his domain
Ummmm I don't think thats how that works XD
@@Allons-Y-04 The chef of binding vows can cook something up for sure
competition always makes people better
I've theorized for awhile now that the heads of the three clans, three vengeful spirits, never incarnated as a curse in the usual way but rather into the families techniques. Whether they were the same technique as our modern interpretations or not is up for debate.
Mahoraga and Megumi were needed to take hits from UV, without them, even if Sukuna was in his curse spirit form, it would’ve been over the second the hit took place. Also I don’t think MS would be amped by true form Sukuna, I think its power is based solely through refinement.
That being said with 4 arms Sukuna could maintain Hollowed Wicker Basket to block the sure hit but with 2 arms down Gojo would win the fight in the domain.
really simple... if gojo was also 1000 years old then he would absolutely annihilate sukuna in seconds since gojo in his 20's was mopping the floor with sukuna until he started crying for his mommy and daddy then it was 3v1
we have to remember that gojo has the massive upside of modern day physics and mathematics to understand his ct a lot better
I feel like him and Sukuna would agree on their ideals, though. Given Gojo's ideologies in the Hidden Inventory Arc, if he thought that when him and Sukuna were alive, at the same time. Man, think of that though.
If Gojo was in that era, things would've been so much different. First of all, sukuna sealing idea may have never occured. Since Gojo's technique is broken that even sukuna himself had to rely on mahoraga. It's going to be sukuna dead and an age of peace, cause sorcerers In that age was strong compared to today, and they even manage to seal sukuna. If Gojo was there, they would've probably tried to kill sukuna instead. Or an age of chaos, cause they failed to kill him and they all get wiped out, at this point they would've probably try to seal him, but they lacked the preparation because their original plan was to subjugate sukuna. But that's one of the only scenario, there are endless possibilities
Nobody sealed Sukuna though... He split himself into 20 fingers so he basically time travel as a cursed object
Fire
Remember that Sukuna needs 10 shadows to beat Gojo. So unless we find out that a 10 Shadows user exists in the Heian Era, then Sukuna wouldn't have a way to pierce Infinity.
Gojo's handsigns boosted his hollow purple by 20% increasing the output into 120% and Utahime's boost was 80% boosting the hollow purple output to 200%
The heian basketweaver would have to realize that growing an extra pair of arms wouldn't help against Gojo since he didn't have Daddy Mahoraga to help.
"The one who became strong is stronger then the one who was born strong."
Can you please make a what if about gojo if he had killed the cult members after rikos death
Can gojo use open barrier domain at all like could that be a technique thing that limits others from using open barrier domains cause I find it odd people like yorozu and such don’t have open barrier domains even when they should be able to get a open barrier domain
simple domain didnt exist back then im pretty sure. the only anti-domain technique was PROBABLY hollow whisker basket
Well given the fact Gojo isn't fighting to save Megumi he would fight much differently
imagine Infinite Void with an open barrier, that's horrifying
Do a full potential higaruma vid fr
Full potential = bin man
@@Allons-Y-04 domain expansion, deadly binman
Note that if he was in rhe Heian Era, Gojo would use Hollow Wicker Basket, not Simple Domain, the former seeming more effective as an anti-domain technique
If this is what the black box was all about just the fire arrow then ,
Gojo CT is seriously so much better.
It gives you access to INFINITY, FLIGHT, TELEPORTATION and not to mention the best sure hit effect i. e. UV.
I would much rather have gojo's arsenal like space time abilities are so much better and convenient.
Had it not been for the world slash which Sukuna just got, his arsenal is kinda lackluster.
Gojo won the domain clash because he was able to adapt his domain, he was able to win against a domain made to break other domains. He also won cqc and use of his cursed technique.
I think that in the 2nd scenario uou didnt take into consideration the fact that Gojo would know how to counter an open domain therefore would switch the conditions of his own barrier and we would have gotten the result of either the clash being a draw or Gojo whooping Sukuna in h2h.
Another thing is that Gojo was stated to have used a binding vow for that purple, so Sukunas wouldnt have additional 80% output from chants. On top of that, due to the fact domains work differently than cts(for example Sukuna using da which stops your ctwhile using de) its possible Sukuna wouldnt be able to chant for the domain.
btw just adding that if you wanna belive Gojo didnt wanna kill Sukuna due to Megumi(going for a punch rather than hollow purple in the domain + inner monolouge in the domain for proof) this fight wouldnt even be that close in most scenarios
damn I might have to go to the heian era to learn how to regrow my leg... that or get a vibraslap prosthetic peg leg 🔥
Vibroslap 10/10 product would recommend lmao
@@Allons-Y-04 fr tho goated video getting me through the healing process
Heian Era Sukuna Smacks gojo all day Infact if gojo was born in the heian era it’d only be to his detriment.
Isn't like a major discussion in the Gojo vs Sukuna fight the fact that Sukuna had been *shown* how to heal his burnt out cursed technique?
That Mommy Mahoga is something else the the beginning 💀
Frrrrr
One point to make in this hypothetical of yours is that if gojo is from the heian era he can not use falling blossom or simple domain since they have yet to be invented. Only the inferior version hollow wicker basker exist.
Imagine UV refined to ancient mastery
in the opening seconds of the video he sounds like pyrocynical
Lmaooo
Sukuna glazers wont admit that for Sukuna to win he had soo many advantages ahead of the fight, we werent given what was hyped, Heian Era Sukuna vs gojo
gojo glazers
I’d like to like a heian Era six eyed limitless user, would be a “bit” more unhinged 😂
Average reading comprehension of a jjk fan
Cool
Sukuna the type of kid that makes an op sword able to penetrate an unbreakable shield in kindergarten
Gojo glaising is crazy
Gojo was fighting a losing battle against sukuna from the jump
sukuna can use domain amp and domain expansion at the same time
One things for sure, Regardless of the scenarios, none of them ‘Low diffs’ the other , regardless of who would win, it’ll be a tough fight either way.
Nah if Gojo has open domain it’s literally negative diff I think Inumaki would be a harder opponent than Sukuna
@@Allons-Y-04 it wouldn’t, gege would never write the fight that way, plus we all know sukunas a binding vow merchant and would some how find a way to sacrifice something to escape instant death, it’d be alot harder G. Trust me I’m a Gojo Stan but that Mf sukuna just too hard to kill, gojo would probably end up winning eventually but he would most likely have to work for that win, both these niggas are Monsters. Anyone in the verse who took UV for less than 10seconds would be brain dead but that nigga somehow kept fighting after that, this the same Mf who ripped his own heart out at 3fingers and proceeds to whoop Tf out of Megumi. Same guy who took hollow purple twice and still somehow lived, same Mf who’s been fighting the entire verse without a functioning heart and basically 1 arm. He’s hard to kill is my point. So he would most likely find a way to get around it at least to escape dying instantly.
@@Allons-Y-04yea, I can’t debate