Fascism Returns in Italy: Giorgia Meloni Claims Victory, Allied with Right-Wing Parties
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- Italy's first far-right leader since Benito Mussolini, Giorgia Meloni, has declared victory. Her Brothers of Italy party is allied with Spain's far-right Vox party, Poland's ruling nationalist Law and Justice party and the Sweden Democrats party, which emerged out of its neo-Nazi movement. We look at "the return of fascism in Italy" with professor Ruth Ben-Ghiat, author of "Strongmen: Mussolini to the Present," who says that Meloni, a self-declared conservative, "really sees her party as carrying the heritage of fascism into today." Ben-Ghiat also describes why Meloni is part of a "transnational design" to create a far-right political culture across Europe.
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"Moderates Dick Cheney" a moderate? Crikey you know things are bad when Cheney is being labelled as a moderate. He's got the blood of millions on his hands
So basically this professor gal is just a neoliberal. Hence her writing for The Atlantic.
I think she was talking about his daughter, Liz Cheney, who was basically kicked out for not supporting Trump. But yeah, like father, like daughter, they’re far right and considered moderate by today standards…
@@ilianceroni the same Trump who was Times Magazines man of the year 2016?
@@joseph1980. yeah, but it was a recent news, the daughter of Dick Cheney was not re-elected in favour of a pro Trump candidate or something like that. In recent state elections republicans basically had a purge of non-believers (in trump they trust) from the party, if I did understand correctly
@@joseph1980.
Ala Adolph Hitler in the 1938?
We have Corporate Fascism here in the US. It doesn't matter which party they back, as long as the legislation they literally write themselves, pushed and bought through campaign contributions, is passed.
True. Very few politicians don't take corporate money. Margery Taylor Greene being one of those that doesn't take corpo cash and she's the one being attack by the press and activists. People live in a double think reality where they can't discern what they hear is truth or propaganda.
It's an oligarchy
Italy has been a corporate fascist state since way before and since WW2 as has the UK and France and... Transnational Italian capitalist corporatism was, literally at times and differing scales in the late-1940s to mid-1980s, propped up by the CIA to ensure that a popular far left coalition never gains power there (or anywhere). Rightwing American idiots haven't a clue that their ex-hero Lincoln (now derided as a lefty sellout!) founded the Republican party on the main premise of corporatism and 'gunboat diplomacy' and outsourced militarist-privatism within the 'American sphere' (the entire Americas). Most people forget that one of the first militia-then-military test-case precedential US colonies was Florida (for example). There has always been a 'liberal' party in the US whose supporters mostly were against US military or private-militia adventurism anywhere, and the opposite true as well (the horrors committed by US troops in the Philippine colonization/'liberation' divided American society strongly between those openly supporting genocidal colonialism and those fully against it, the only reason it wasn't such a riotous affair amongst white Americans like during the Vietnam War, was the fact that there was no military draft for the at-first-universally-popular Spanish-American War). Most people think that US violent and corrupt involvement with trying to control the entire Americas by ensuring 'friendly' (US corporate and military advantage) governments started in the late 1890s, but in fact it started in the late 1790s with American goals to finish off and go even further by stealthier-violent and/or corrupt means what the British started or contingency-desired: kicking the French and Spanish out of North and central America south of Canada and taking the areas or resources or establishing monopolistic-'client'-status for the US property class WASP male selves. Most of US moves for colonization were originally instigated by, or stealthily-strongly-supported, by rich power elites using 'private' militias and/or organized armed-colonists, most often totally illegally at the time according to US law, but with minimal pushback by the national or local 'conservative' US political majority or president in power at the time, only to be deemed illegal and a mistake by the next 'liberal' majority or president and/or the slow-acting courts, and things put on hold in a mostly 'having your cake and eating it too' fait-accompli, only for the next 'conservative' political majority or president to put their weight and official US policy of establishing US hegemony and/or sovereignty where 'American' (WASP) colonists already are, regardless of their relative numbers to intergenerational previous residents or indigenous people's. The US private-then-government overthrow and colonization of the democratic constitutional monarchy of Hawaii is a good more obvious early example of that, and a huge precedent for future off-continental-US colonial policies.
That is completely unrelated to corporatism, corporatism is taken from the Latin word corpus, or body, it doesn't mean companies controle the government, that's called corpratocracy, they're completely unrelated
No you don't, you numpty. You have democratic elections in which you can vote out those representatives. You have individual rights; separation of power; separate judiciary; property rights; and freedom of expression. Stop being so hyperbolic and grow up.
Notice they are not playing what Giorgia Meloni actually said!
Well I live in Italy and hear what she actually says. She is a racist, a fascist and a disgusting person.
Her words are too powerful for them to handle. The truth might hurt.
@@trudolfschwab7954 Did you even see the video? They did show what she said, they showed an important speech. And I hear her all the time, I live in Italy. Her words are crap.
@@carollund8251 Yes. Her words are crap - if you just ignore the truth.
@@trudolfschwab7954 Well that's funny how do you know what her words are if you just agreed with Timothy that they didn't play what she said?🤣. I do know what she says, I hear it every day and don't need an interpreter.
...She just called Kissinger and Cheney "moderate" conservatives? ...DN, what the hell are you guys doing? No pushback on that? Wow.
Yeah I agree, it’s laughable and embarrassing.
Didnt she mean by comparison?
If corporate media hates her she is doing something right.
Moderate but committed globalist Baal worshippers maybe. 😆
@@MrLawalker ahahaha, how many people did meloni kill?
Mussollini coined the definition of classic fascism: the merger of corporate and state. We have fascism in the US on high. Yes, it is transnational, and in the US it's bipartisan. We can't even vote it out.
We can easily vote it out in America.... And its happening already
Yes we could do it. people are more awoke like republican keep saying.
Mussolini's vagary definition is a smokescreen cover for The Sovereign military Order of Malta inducted Roman loyal immunity, specifically, to be Ultra well informed, inside trading, foreign and domestic war mongers on innocence.. obstructing justice.. across whatever border
Watch the midterms , plenty of fascists and commies are going to be purged
Exactly, the fight is not left versus right at this point. It is top versus bottom - the elite of society versus its great unwashed masses. People get stuck on bigotry because that is how fascist states arose in the past and enforced their power, but racism is considered abhorrent today. A fascist society would not be able to enforce its dictates through overt racism, nor can it commit mass genocide as those acts occurred in the context of war. People forget material analysis and live in the past. Fascism today will have the core elements of violent enforcement of the capitalist state, but it would not look the same as its predecessors as this is not the 1930s. It is likely this new government in Italy will follow the same line as the old ones - once you get in power, all ideals go out the window.
They're like people in the middle of a house fire, pointing out at the BBQ in their neighbours' yard and calling them arsonists
Not at all....they've seen that neoliberal policies are not so humanitarian as the corporate left tries to pretend they are.
The fire started in Europe. The fire of capitalism, of colonialism, of whiteness, of imperialism, of fascism. Europe is the source of all the gasoline and matches.
Precisely. Look! A fascist!
A majority of voters cast their vote for her. That means she is a product of Democracy.
Yep. Democracy Now! 😂
That is a very simplistic view. Voting is never reflection of people's choice, it's always a reflection of economic stability or, in this case, instability.
@@v-22 It may be simplistic but it is what it is. I don't like the choice of the re-election of Emanuel Macron in my country as I think it's mostly due to the control of media he has to influence the opinion, yet I have to recognize this is a democratic election. You may think that Meloni is too "far-right" or you can call her a fascist, yet she is the choice of the people. Measures to reduce taxes on low-income class, to encourage a higher birth rate or to reduce mass-immigration are the will of the italian people.
Viktor Orban and other far right leaders are also the product of a Democratic system. That's irrelevant. Using the doorway of a legitimate voting process, hiding or softening the rough edges of extremist views, then getting into office and dismantling Democratic norms has become the new stealth method to take over. No need for a military coup and all that violence. Meloni is a lifelong unapologetic Fascist who praised Mussolini. She's already threatening journalists with lawsuits who criticize her. That's one of the red flags of Fascist ideology to attack the press.
Her party didn’t got even 27% of the voters, her party didn’t arrived at 17% of all voting population, the right wing coalition didn’t arrive at 50% of all vote, her party and to be more precise the extreme-right wing coalition won because our electoral law put merits for biggest coalition, wich ironically is unconstitutional because our constitution talk about party not coalition, she don’t represent Italian, especially considering how few people voted in the desperation of our times, this was the least voted election in our republic history
Ruth is the new Grocho Marx on degrading Italians. She fails to talk about what causes a Meloni.
It looks like current establishment of the west has a selective amnesia. Every cause is discarded. And we repeat our mistakes over and over.
It will not benefit her point
If the people chose her, then it Italy’s right to lead the country in the way they want. Why would you label this as bad.
because this puts their oligarch masters one step further away from owning all of humanity in perpetual chattel debt slavery.
The irony of a YT channel called "Democracy Now"
Because liberals want to go further liberal and destroy all family, nation and the thing they hate the most European people
Because americans still have caveman brain. They are crying about this but deep down they know right is better than left
@@loadsbutty ahahahahah
The loudest person in the room is normally an empty container.
You describe the leftists.
You describe trump & co completely
@@vallee7966 < still has orange gaper seven years later.
Not picking sides at all but since Ms. Meloni is the head of Italy now what's her Party's plan for GDP? What can Italy export besides cars and coffee?
@@athleteg1g.481 wine, and olive oil to name just two, dude the sooner the fewest products need to be imported and exported the better the world will be! The output of the peoples labors need to profit the people not the worthless middlemen! They just burn the worlds energy contributing nothing to the benefit of all!
Fascism Webster Dictionary : often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.
Sounds like Biden and the democrats.
@@bobcobb7992
Exactly
Race has nothing to do with fascism only nazism. STOP SPREADING LEFTIST PROPAGANDA. Fascism is left-wing economics with usually right wing cultural views but often modernist, progressive and futurist too.
@@doodlebob3374 nonsense. He's the same president as any other.
Fascism as defined by the US congressional Librarian:
"Mussolini's Fascism was thus both a revival of revolutionary nationalism and an adaptation of revolutionary syndicalism. Fascist economic unions were used to mobilize the masses; and after the march on Rome in 1 922, the Fascist corporative state was organized along vertical lines by industries in a manner previously favored by syndicalist strike organizations."
And more: "Engels' Revolution and Counter-Revolution in Germany of 1851-52 blamed the failure of the German revolution on the timidity of the bourgeois liberals who led it. But some share of the blame might also be allotted to the extremism of the communist program, which frightened workers as well as bourgeois liberals and gave a pretext for repression to reactionaries. The displaced journeymen who provided the rank and file for the German upheavals felt threatened by intellectuals who sought to manipulate them with unfamiliar terminology. As was to be the case later-in Italy on the eve of Mussolini and Germany on the eve of Hitler-extremism on the Left played a role in preparing the way for reaction on the Right"-James H Billington, 13th Librarian of Congress
FFS someone give Amy a glass of water.
Just like leftist ideas...they are drying up.
She needs a whole bottle of Prozac
Yeh, to swallow the red pill with…….
Removing the count of dislikes is the most deceptive move TH-cam ever did
Look at the views and look at the likes, you can put two and two together
Agree, this vid only has 1k likes but 28k views... I'm sure there are a ton of dislikes... I did put a dislike. DN used to be good now they just fearmonger and push propaganda.
@@VentureHolly it's more pathetic when you have to hide the truth, so to fool people.
@@crazykdog7081 you can’t just take the “likes” from the views and assume the difference are “dislikes”, that’s totally ridiculous! Even if I like a video I rarely “like” it.
It's pretty crappy of them. But there's an even crappier thing they do that many people are still unaware of. YT is constantly hiding people's comments from public view without the commenters being aware. All it takes is one word or phrase that the algorithm deems unacceptable. That's why if you pay attention you'll notice there are many threads where the number of replies shown under the OP comment is not the same number of replies you can count in the thread.
I constantly have to log out of YT to see if my comments are visible to others. It's a real pain in the backend and it angers me.
Congratulations Georgia Meloni! Italy is blessed to have you. Viva L’ Italia!
Grande fratello un saluto dal 🇮🇹
Good now burn to the ground with bad policies
Cuando Costa la battikha ,البطيخة
٥٠ Mille lira!!
No no,,
E cuando Costa la ginnaryya ..
Italy 🇮🇹 is broke
Who wants to live in broke country?
We love you Meloni
Professor Ben-Giath is actually WRONG when quoting one of the Brothers of Italy politician, Ignazio La Russa saying that 'We [the Italian people] are all heirs of the Duce', she is wittingly or unwittingly misinterpreting what he meant.
First of all, she quoted only a segment of what he said and not the whole thing.
If you actually listen to what he says in its entirety, La Russa is simply making the point (in response to some accusatory remark made about his party, so everything is in context) that the Italian people are heirs of the Duce in the sense that we [the italian people] have heredited a country that has had as part of its past the fascist era and the Duce. (Just as the Italian people are heirs of other historical figures.)
And with that he is not suggesting that fascism is therefore part of the make-up of the Italian people or the character of the Italian nation.. as instead professor Ben-giath implicitly and FALSELY is making it out to be the case about his statement.
You know, liberals, left-wing people and experts in general can be just as biased as other people.
Truly, it's always best to check things for yourself if you can.
Exactly. And saying that El Duce is an effective politician doesn’t mean you think he was good for the country. I think Obama was a good politician and can state that opinion while I think he was a terrible president. See the nuance Democracy Now
Thanks so much! Really appreciated. We need more actual level headed assessments.
"Democracy Now!"
Unless The People elect someone with whom you disagree.
The Italian people have spoken. Something in their daily life has driven them to this point.
Yeah the EU trampling their rights and trying to erase their culture got Italy to this point . Wonderful lockdowns , insane energy prices and ever increasing taxes were their thank you for being a member
At list more than 40 percent of italians did not vote. This is the worse moment of last 30 years of italian history.
Just a new flavor of corruption to substitute the usual one.Meloni will fail to deliver and be replaced by another corrupt official as usual.
Their imaginary problems with gays and immigrants you mean?
yup and how it turns out for them, welp they going to have to deal with it
*has show called "democracy now"
*democracy happens
"REEEEEEEEEEE THIS IS FASCISM"
Doesn’t change the fact democracy can result in fascists rising to power
Fascist parties can be elected.. Wtf is the point of this comment apart form braindead c*** keyboard noise?
Hmmm, Hitler was facist. There’s no way he was elected democratically and fairly by the people…oh wait..
Do you see the flaw in your logic?
The pendulum ALWAYS swings.
For good. It corrects.
i notice you dint play her acceptance speech... why???
Why give air time to Hitler, to Mussolini? There's no need to humanize or give voice to fascists.
@@grady7420 are the fascists in the room with us right now?
"Politically, the task of the proletariat was the conquest of democracy, which had been compromised by liberalism. Ideologically, the mission was to realize the "human emancipation" that lay beyond the purely political gains of past revolutions : to bring into being what Marx described in his Philosophical Manuscripts of 1844 as "realized humanism" or "naturalism." By the time of his expulsion from Paris early in 1845, Marx described both his and humanity's goal as "Communism." This Communism is like realized naturalism which equals humanism which equals naturalism"-James H Billington, 13th Librarian of Congress
I know why. Lol! It was too good.
@@pastthepeak3195 Yep, they're called "religious" and they're all mentally ill. Religion is a mental illness!
There is a reason this happened
To have a rebirth in freedom, democracy and hopefully in economics. Merloni will eb wonderful!
@@nymike06 Yes, fascists have always led their countries to great prosperity. 🙄
@@majuli8420 If that's the case, the previous socialists, far left extremists and neoliberal fascists in charge of Italy in addition to the EU have destroyed their economy....just like what the neoliberal liberals are doing to America. Connect the dots my friend!
@@majuli8420 Maybe she's not a Fascist?
Maybe you've swallowed so much propaganda that you can't even think straight?
@@majuli8420 why do you call her fascist
She, Giorgia, is the most impressive politician I have encountered in a very very very long time. There is an old argument whether times produce the person or does the person produce the times. It is of course both. However I subscribe to a leaning in the scale - meaning I lean towards the "person produces the times" side. The zeitgeist of The People can go un heard for decades...longer...until a person comes along. One of those persons, we need more, is amongst us...her name is Giorgia. I would crawl on my hands and knees to vote for her. I love her.
Years ago many countries gave up the model of corporate 'sharing' in that if you by luck or hard work or whatever, worked for a company that became rich, these riches would be shared by all in that company.
Instead...
$ were doled out to the few (the CEO's etc) and we ended up with oligarchs who then became 'untouchables' creating laws and influencing trends that made them and them alone, even richer.
Did they deserve this? Nope, definitely not..
But we never allowed to create corporate rules or laws so this would not (continue to) happen.
What happened with the rule of thumb that a CEO should make 4 to 6 times what the average worker in that company made? When that number became 4000 to 6000 times, the downhill slide into elitism began and the rest of us were doomed.
When we looked away when monarchies drained public resources as being a 'birthright' of theirs, we were doomed.
When we created rock stars out of mere political servants of the people like presidents and senators, we were doomed
Be prepared to be worker ants to queens guarded by enforcement armies because unless we awaken to these truths of the past and present, THAT is the future for 99.99% of us
👏👏👏
Started with Reagan 1980
@@rdbeckett590 It started way further back...more like 1780.
One of the best comments I have ever read. Corporate law would change the world completely...for the better.
I think US is the place that embraces the idea of mobility of the person to better themselves. If you want to start your own company or work for a better one, you can.
Regardless of how you feel about Meloni, I hope we can all find some irony in EU bureaucrats calling anyone fascist
2 wrongs don’t make a right
@@escapeearth2327 But they do make irony
The response is transnational because the threat is transnational.
Your mums gut is transnational, go outside
The "threat"is manufactured.
The response (Nationalism) is a trend transnationally because the threat (Global industries and institutions, financial and otherwise, who use their wealth and influence to steer politics) is absolutely transnational. Correct.
As long as she doing good for her country that’s fine.
News flash: This "she" is really a he! Just listen to "her" deep deep voice!
@@grandwonder5858 Yeah god forbid anyone with a set of balls and a sense of jingoism ever gets elected to office...
@@grandwonder5858 ignore my profile, ur speaking of michelle obama? u can see his buldge thru his dress
@@grandwonder5858 sounds a little transphobic to me. It’s a shame coming from a liberal like you.
@@grandwonder5858 Observe the bones! She is a woman. See lizard truss instead
This is what democracy looks like.
I mean it literally isn't.
@@seekingabsolution1907 how so? The people voted. That's democracy. Your idea of democracy different?
should leaders only be elected if they have liberal beliefs?
@@frankjamesiii5362 democracy only works when they win
Not for long...
Any country not in line with US agenda is declared fascist, Ukraine is an exception.
That’s because our political elite have been laundering our money through the country. Look at the politicians who have family working there or associated with companies there.
Because she literally is a fascist sharing many similarities with Mussolini’s ideology.
You’re the type of person who would’ve said what you just said back when Hitler and Mussolini rose to power
@@dehavillandcanadatwinotter9621 the problem is that the left calls everyone who isnt a trans bipoc whatever, a fascist. the word has lost its meaning and nobody cares anymore
Dawg, there's fascism in the U.S too stfu
@@dehavillandcanadatwinotter9621 It's the left that shares many similarities with Mussolini and Hitler. Mussolini was a communist, he adopted many of his ideas from communism. Hitler got his idea for racial segregation from the democrat party. You literally can't push a piece of paper between Hitler and Mussolini's facist party's and the communists,
They use the same methods.
Democracy means ppl of a country elect who they want, and media openly ignores that 😂.
It means the Aspen Institute runs Italy now. Suckers.
It doesn't fit their narrative
calling a thing what it is, is not anti-democratic
@@24roguelion it is anti-democratic when you lie about your political opponents, which is what you authoritarian leftists love to do.
Exactly! 👏
Nice to see these developments are triggering the cat ladies worldwide.
This smear reminds me of why I unsubscribed from Democracy Now in the first place.
There is something wrong with these people. Giorgia was elected by the people. Look to your own cesspit, then you'll realize true fascism. Well done, Giorgia, a true patriot!!!
Patriotism is just saying the right things. Ah ok.
❤
By 26% of the voters, so no.
Ruth is bonkers 😂
They already governed in Rome and Lazio. They had a different name but it was basically the same people.
"Politically, the task of the proletariat was the conquest of democracy, which had been compromised by liberalism. Ideologically, the mission was to realize the "human emancipation" that lay beyond the purely political gains of past revolutions : to bring into being what Marx described in his Philosophical Manuscripts of 1844 as "realized humanism" or "naturalism." By the time of his expulsion from Paris early in 1845, Marx described both his and humanity's goal as "Communism." This Communism is like realized naturalism which equals humanism which equals naturalism"-James H Billington, 13th Librarian of Congress
Wannabe Nazis
On the contrary, I as a black man do not think she sounds racist at all. She sounds like everything a black person would agree with. What an amazing speaker. And black people are a peaceful people. The best and most charismatic female public speaker I have ever heard. WOW! What amazing female talent. Her energy blew me away. Peace and love
Exactly brother.
She sounds great, courageous, a hero. Bravo. Stop destroying our countries!!! Globalism is dead.
So is a good thing u r not there in italy cous she like black ppl only if they r turist
Let me guess 🤔 you are white "Get out" type of neoLib, who's saying he's black to troll the comment section.
@@jarrettjb Another white dude saying "his black". You know your avatar is white dude, right. You are so reckless with your lies these days. With Brandon in WH, you racist Libs are in a full swing.
Congrats to Meloni for -likely- becoming the first female prime minister of Italy. A changing time for the people, and a shift from what occurred in the last election. Things are going to be interesting.
I'm super happy for Merloni and for Italy. She made history and will be so wonderful!
@@nymike06 but Amy said she’s literally Hitler
@Hh Kk They elected a woman into power and that's yout response..? I sense a bit of misogyny...
@Hh Kk Doubtful, but we'll have to see. I was joking btw, so don't take it too harshly.
@@leftifornian2066 Amy who?
Great!
After listening to your description of Giorgia Meloni, I think I really like her.
Now, get the facts. The truth.
I watch this channel and learn that when they talk about God i live it and it makes thier skin crawl
How is Democracy Now's reporting/commentary any different than what oozes from the New York Times or Washington Post?
In a speech to supporters and the media, Meloni described her party’s victory as a 'night of pride for many, and a night of redemption,' referring to Italy’s turn away from wokeism.
We need to do the same in the US .
History may not repeat, but it certainly rhymes.
Mark Twain.
@@stephaniegormley9982 it's unclear if mark twain was the the original author as its older than time but he does get attributed for this quote most of the time. Nonetheless a great poetic verse to echo in times like these.
If that's what the Italian people want, then let it be! It's called democracy! She was democratically elected by the vast majority of the Italian people. So what's your problem with that, exactly?!
Ask the six million Jews who were systematically tortured and murdered by nationalists and fascists. Oh you can’t they’re all dead.
Liam P. : I'm taking the liberty of responding for somebody else in here.
Giorgia Meloni was elected democratically and ,agreeing in part with you, there's nothing wrong with that.
What is wrong with that is that you are uncomfortable with the fact that she is being critiicized for bringing back a system that almost destroyed humanity.
On the same token the world has democratically elected politicians more than once : Obama, Mujica and Chavez (to just name a few) whom have been accused of traitors while going against the interest of the multinationals like the ones this woman represents today.
The problem is / remains that she's a fascist. Hitler was democratically elected as well and nobody (except fascists) would applaud that these days.
Nobody is questioning the concept of democracy smartass. But if a majority makes decisions detrimental to (non-powerful) minorities it becomes a topic to discuss (critically).
26 is the vast majority?????? What ???? Whit 40 per cent abstention. These boys are broken.
I don't think you know what democracy means
You took Meloni’s statement about Mussolini out of context. Meloni speaks truth. Deal with it !
Any name you stomp or named her not matter she is elected as a leader of Italy 🇮🇹
You need to get a better definition of fascism. Meloni is a lot of things, but she's not a fascist.
This is absolute crap. Giorgia Meloni is not a fascist. She's a moderate conservative at best. Just because she may have spoken favorable about Mussolini as a teenager (I spoke favorably of Lenin in my youth). Also, from a more personal perspective, her father abandoned her and her mother when she was in her pre-teens, and he was a keen Communist. So there's a lot of deeply personal material informing her teenage choices. That said, the people who will form her government - nit to mention her personal policies - are centrist (and in some cases, they may even qualify as social democratic). As for her anti-immigration stance, have you any idea what Europe has been experiencing in the past decade? Next time, interview someone who speaks Italian fluently and knows Italy before making such claims. And I would add that I did not vote for Meloni.
The USA is so far right EU fascists have more in common with US dems the USA is a pitiful joke country that can’t even build simple infrastructure. The MAGA in USA is useless
Good job ITALY! Italy for Italians! Love this lady! 🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹👑👑👑👑.
What you mean? Italy can survive on its own, doesn’t need anybody else?
@@escapeearth2327 YES
@@escapeearth2327
Can black countries survive on their own without need of anyone else?
@@Mk-cs7dcWhat is that supposed to mean ?
I've never seen a person with such a presence
But you're not talking about people who voted for her and why 😳😳😳.
Bersani took many more votes, arrived first and rightly couldn’t govern. 26 per cent is not that many. Electoral law distorted the parliamentary majority greatly. The right alltoghether has way less votes then last time with the record abstention. The left was extremely divided. So, let the mule take a break as we say in Italy. Around 7 millions in a country of 63. Calm down.
@@odradekk If this had to happen, I'm glad it happened in a country with mercifully short-lived governments.
They’re here to push propaganda not Engage in journalism
we voted Right because we are terrified to become like UK....a Islamic state
@@Helga7850 yeah, be fascist instead, sounds great
All I had to read was the title to figure THIS IS MISINFORMATION.
It is not misinformation at all. I live in Italy. Meloni is a fascist and a despicable, disgusting and scary person. Can't wait until we get rid of her.
The premise of every Democracy Today is to knock, to accuse Western civilization. From the parasites that live among us.
Or weak explanation why they said that.
She’s outstanding. Brava!!!!
This is democracy now.
Who is not aligned with us, doesn't have right to democratically elect a leader.
This is democracy, now.
Just wait till they report on Keri Lake winning Governorship in Arizona
The good thing about being a Italian PM is that it's never for too long
It's never too late for "breaking" traditions... that's what's happened in Italy...with this new government of right not linked to the international lobbies as was the left party for years...
You lost and you're not going to win ever again.
@@Communism.is.a.cancer I'm actually not Italian and I don't really care. I was just observing that as an outsider looking in, Italian governments never last long and my prediction therefore is that this one will prove to be no different
@@0810drew I actually think they will govern just fine and will turn out to be merely centre right so if u want actual fascism, my prediction is that you will be disappointed.
@@nellygooner8925 well, you're wrong.
How about we talk what led to this?
The far left liars avoid that topic
My grandmother, aunt, and cousins live in Palermo and my aunt tells me it’s the multiculturalism forced upon them that’s caused this shift.
I live in Italy. Multiculturalism is fantastic. A good thing, not bad.
Yah, that sounds like something fascists would say.
The mere existence of something that is "the other", them simply being recognized in media and entertainment or news, is what people view as the problem... or i should say, is the problem for people but they will often try to suggest its more than that or something different, when its not.
And even if we pretend that "it’s the multiculturalism forced upon them" that's the problem and the response is fucking fascism..... FASCISM.... then, they and everyone justifying this are in the wrong and have the worst idea's anyone could ever have. What's funny is many people say this, don't understand the gap... the response gap... the juxtaposition.... the extreme response to something that is nothing... "oh no! Only 85% of the people i see on TV are white now, instead of the 95% im used to! Its time to go full blown fascist!" Are you kidding me? This is a sane response to you?
Without immigration, these European nations would collapse.
@@carollund8251 nobody likes multiculturalism being forced upon them...
@@carollund8251 apparently it’s very stressful for most the participants.
If fascism comes to America it will come in the form of liberalism. - Reagan
It's already here and that's why my Democrat party will not be getting my Vote. My party has been hijacked by crazies!
its already here. Joe McCarthy was right
I hope it comes soon because this communism sucks.
Exactly what they did the past 2 years with the forced lockdowns unconstitutional forced 💉 and 😷 and then this war is horrific. Biden is like a marvel villain 🦹🏽♂️
The tyrannical left does not represent the well of the people. They have a satanic agenda that they want to push regardless of what people around the world want. Like you shouldn’t be allowed to push 🏳️🌈 on our kids.
Democracy Now - doesn't like democracy🤣
Communism Now
Bingo! They are Fos.
It is really weird. They critize and label everyone fascist that doesn't agree with them completely.
Does Italy have workplace democracy? Or are there still fascistic traits of your economies still?
@@jancoley9051 bruh if you’re far right and talking like Mussolini then YOU FACIST. We have a big issue wit in in the world rn
She is great , i'm so happy for her !
Leaning more towards sucks less than everyone else who ran
You are happy for a Fascist? shame on you.
That is fun. This woman is talking about Mussolini and mentioned Libya, Ethiopia, why she did not mentioned "democratic " US "relationship" with the very same Libya,Iraq,Yugoslavia,Somalia,Yemen and ... you name it ,dozens of countries?
Italexit in the cards?
Italeave
Italy cant survive out of EU belive me their economy is not strong as UK
Hope so, there is party allied with her party, called "italexit".
But Ursula von der Layen said she will use every tools possible to stop Giorgia Meloni and establish a new leftist government in Italy.
It's a war between Italian people and European Union leaders.
European Union is a dictatorship.
Yes
They can't afford it 🤣
What the hell are you people smoking?
They are in the Nwo cult. Everyone who doesn’t fall in line is racists or fascists or some other ist. They went mad and got brainwashed by the tv.
It ain't pot... Apps tho
Hard raw copium
Give us a break! "Fascism"! Get your hands off it! You need a dictionary! Forza Italia!!! 🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹
Well I think that it cannot be any worse than what they have at this time!
It can always get worse.
You think Europe is losing their minds over immigration now, think about when tens or hundreds of millions of climate refugees come knocking.
It'll be the worst genocide humanity has ever seen.
Merloni will be extraordinary and wonderful! The two females fools on this video are liars and neoliberal fascists
😄 😄
It can get worse, remember the holocaust? This time it's against black people. We can't go anywhere without being shot,choked out etc. In france a policeman shoved a baton stick up a black guys butt😳 ! It was so bad he was in the hospital! Latin american countries are not receptive to black people. Remember after world war ll alot of nazi's went to latin countries spreading fascism and racism about black minorities. It can get worse.
The turnout rate was an abysmal 64%, lol
It was enough.
This voter apathy is an ominous sign
Of that low turnout, the vast majority voted for her. That's how democracy works.
We'll probably have way less than 64% turnout for the US midterms in November. 64% is about the best we get during presidential elections as well.
As for me, I won't be voting (again) for our fake two party system this November or in 2024.
It's called democracy. My non vote is my vote.
For Italy is low. In other countries not so. People are very demoralized by politics and mostly are moderate center right not to vote.
The more it seems that old things my change. In a odd twist. The old things seems too stay the same 😢
i know right. freedom. free spech. the people not kowtowing to a government. THE HORROR!!!!
Cancel culture?
There is a quote in an Italian book (Il gattopardo-a book about the creation of a United Italy): everything has to change for everything to remain the same. It’s a reflection upon the change of the macro structure of the state and the preservation of pre-existent hierarchy and “corruption”.
As an independant I grow more and more uneasy with the left as they describe everything they do not like, understand, or feel threatened by as being 'fascist. ' you are really losing me and are making words empty
wait until you eventually realize that the good guys lost WW2
I live in Italy where we know about fascism first hand. Meloni is a fascist, pure and simple. Best not to talk about things you know nothing about.
Then you aren't paying attention or have not spent much if any time learning about what fascism is/what fascism looks like. This is very much fascism on the rise.
Respect the choice of Italians peoples. This is called Democracy
It’s called nazi
Said by people in 1933 in Germany. XD
What is your solution???
@@khalidhassen5966 apparently for them democracy exists only when their parties win
Well done! 💋
Thank God for Meloni!!!
She sounds awesome.
The amount of dislikes in this video says too much!
How many?
@@MJ2A 1.1k likes and 1.5k dislikes
@@donqepi oof lmao
You gotta love democracy 😂
@@MJ2A my point was that no one agrees on what that blondie said, she said a whole lot of nothing
@@donqepi I know. I was making fun of how the shills that buy into this propaganda can’t stand the fact there’s people who think differently from them
Italian voters wanted a government that supports the country's traditional values, so they voted for Ms. Meloni. Quit with the hysterics, left leaning media.
But how else will the left leaning media control people to make them vote for their side???
They HAVE to push fear and lies..... Thats all they have....
Right. They are unbelievable.
And it just so happens they voted for fascism…what’s hysterical about it? Do you know what text book fascism is? Pick up a book before you make silly comments.
"supports the country's traditional values" above anything else, and uses it as an excuse to crack down on anyone they don't like.
I used to watch this channel once in a while, but it's getting ridiculous.
Throwing around the word "fascism" everytime you see a right wing party and at the same time brandishing apologists for Putin .... oh the irony.
...and don't you dare to touch the Cuban cartel with a feather... those poor people who are such victims of the American "blockade"...
Right wing parties are some of the most incompetent forms of government on earth
@@athund6901 Cuba is left wing tho
Congratulations to Italy!
Commiseration to Italy and the EU 😢
@@francessimmonds5784 Ethiopia: WTF?!
Absolutely this is the beginning of a real populist movement globally! It’s time to go back to having a sense of nationalism and taking care of your actual citizens. It’s time to go back and fight poverty instead of declaring war on poor people. It’s time for individual freedom not groupthink
LOL
Fascism and racism is what started the holocaust! Do you want to support racism and fascism? If so you must racist yourself!
These comments give me such hope. People are finally seeing these people for what they are puppets repeating the lines of the corporate marionettes.
If you can just change every definition to suit you argument you will never tend to lose
You would know... it's all your side does.
@@Jimmy1982Playlists just making sides like you just did is a fascist move. George Orwell said that we all have the possibility to act fascist. ALL of us.
Isn't that exactly what this channel democracy never does?
The projections from team DNC is just like the projections of this channel they impose their guilt ways and means onto others and highlight absurd parallels of which there are guilty of in spades. How has the ark of Injustice been altered from Reagan through Biden regardless of whether team blue or team red is in charge? For their victims it is only become worse and more absolute.
Scratch a socialist and a fascist bleeds. Mussolini used communism as a foundation for Fascismo. Nazi is an abbreviation of "National Socialist". The full name was National Socialist German Worker Party. Keep trying to change definitions. You are trying to redefine Nationalism as National Socialism. It is not the same thing.
I'm not a fan of Meloni but as it happens in these cases this is a gross exaggeration. She is more like an Italian Marine Le-Pen. Academic studies are still hanging on to Fascism the historical situation.
As Italian i can comment for right: the Party that got 26% of votes (its coalition a good 44%) comes from the MSI, a mouvement created After WWll by veterans of the fascist regime: they use Also the same symbol, a tricolor flame.
By the way they evolved into National conservatives and abandoned some ideas of fascism.
Kinda like how the American Democratic Party was the Party the plantation South, of slavery and segregation, but now have abandoned some of those ideas? Interesting that political parties can evolve over time. Not sure that's widely understood at the moment.
You cannot eliminate an idea from the face of earth.
No but it's pretty straight forward to eliminate their supporters. Look at the partisans 🤞
@@veneering4128 Supporters will come again and again. That's what I said
A night of payback!?! 🤔
Creepy.
Fascism as defined by the US congressional Librarian:
"Mussolini's Fascism was thus both a revival of revolutionary nationalism and an adaptation of revolutionary syndicalism. Fascist economic unions were used to mobilize the masses; and after the march on Rome in 1 922, the Fascist corporative state was organized along vertical lines by industries in a manner previously favored by syndicalist strike organizations."
And more: "Engels' Revolution and Counter-Revolution in Germany of 1851-52 blamed the failure of the German revolution on the timidity of the bourgeois liberals who led it. But some share of the blame might also be allotted to the extremism of the communist program, which frightened workers as well as bourgeois liberals and gave a pretext for repression to reactionaries. The displaced journeymen who provided the rank and file for the German upheavals felt threatened by intellectuals who sought to manipulate them with unfamiliar terminology. As was to be the case later-in Italy on the eve of Mussolini and Germany on the eve of Hitler-extremism on the Left played a role in preparing the way for reaction on the Right"-James H Billington, 13th Librarian of Congress
Hmm it's almost like the state using various financial institutions and corporations to "fortify" elections and control the flow of information. Wierd! Facism huh? Got it.
@@RenneDanjoule a strange way of saying fascists are supported by capitalists and aristocrats to preserve their own power.
Our concept of democracy is not the same good people.
Majority of people i know around the Europe view Democratic party as oppressors add the USA flavor of Democracy at the best they are tyrants
"Politically, the task of the proletariat was the conquest of democracy, which had been compromised by liberalism. Ideologically, the mission was to realize the "human emancipation" that lay beyond the purely political gains of past revolutions : to bring into being what Marx described in his Philosophical Manuscripts of 1844 as "realized humanism" or "naturalism." By the time of his expulsion from Paris early in 1845, Marx described both his and humanity's goal as "Communism." This Communism is like realized naturalism which equals humanism which equals naturalism"-James H Billington, 13th Librarian of Congress
Your media is called "democracy now" and this is ironic when you so aggressively criticize the choice of the italian people. Instead of saying "fascist" a thousand times in your video, it would have been actually interesting to have a look at what are the measures she plans to implement.
Absolutely agree! The title of this segment says it all, biased and anti-democratic. So disgusted by this primary labeling if it doesn’t fit the profile of the corporate left!
Bravo Italy! Good luck to Giorgia Meloni. Nothing happens in a vacuum.
I just watched a speech from her in which she emphasized the importance of individuality, the importance of recognizing and respecting our individual uniqueness, and she contrasted that with the modern identity politics of the left which emphasizes the importance of our race, our gender, and how that race and gender identity is more important than our identity as individuals. And as usual now those leftists are tarring the right with the label "fascist" when their own politics better fit that label.
And as a foreigner you don’t understand a shit about our politics, Giorgia Meloni political history is tightly wrapped around the MSI wich was the openly new reformed nei-fascist movement after the end of ww2 her party along Lega and FI are the most corrupted with the most high percent of people accused and condemned in definitive trial of scuffle with mafia and terrorist organization, her party won became our actual electoral law give merits to both the party with most vote and the biggest coalition, wich in this case was right wing, but still this coalition didn’t represent even half of electoral vote (not to count that this election is the least voted in the republican story of Italy). And in last line… she is the one that is spreading hate and bs about immigration, LGBTQ+ community and so on, not to count that all three right wing party (especially Lega and FI with Silvio Berlusconi) revived millions of euros from private entity from Russia before and after the start of the war in Ukraine
@@Ammiragliosalvatorefortissimo should I trust the US Trump supporters to give an accurate description of the Democrats, or the Democrat supporters to give an accurate description of Trump? I don't think so. That is why I have little confidence in you, an opponent of Meloni's party, to offer an accurate description of her politics.
thats all they have, because their ideas are shit.
@@andrewworth4810 you can learn alot from anyone, even someone lying.
Georgia has Nothing to worry as long as she is loyal to her master Uncle Sam, even Saddam could be still alive even today, if he showed loyalty to US. The Uncle Sam doesn't care about the crimes committed by a person who is obedient. You are immune to do any kind of sinful acts under the shadow of US protection.
This was interesting to hear the “why” people are referring to Meloni as a fascist. All I can say is that the pendulum always swings and that listening to them talk they see the problems on the one side but they fail to see ANY of the problems on the far left side that so many people are just plain fed up with. It’s why the pendulum swings… the left made it so and will refuse to take responsibility that they went WAY too far the other direction!!
I agree Obama brought Trump going too far left. I don't agree with extremism
Listen to her. She is brilliant and not fascist
They call her that because she's friend of Putin, master of bloody wars. It's enough.
Is this "far left" in the room with us? 😂. There literally is no anti capitalist party in power
"Far right" is simply the new centrist. I think she's great.
Since when is family country and nation state Far right???
the far right uses those same words to justify their shittiness
Let them spew. This scares the Lefties. Nothing wrong with what she desires. I'm actually happy for Italy. Fascism my azz. Far from it. Family values is now fascist, Yeah ill vote for her if I could. Lets Go Brandon
@jo johns When a coalition government such as this pledges to take away rights from minority groups (i.e. no surrogacy, fertility treatments or adoptions for gays) that is both REGRESSIVE as well as FAR RIGHT. To only allow Christian immigrants; with a litmus test of their beliefs is not only FAR RIGHT, but also FASCIST. To question if it is legal for the Italian Navy to fire upon small crafts of migrants (often inflatable rafts) and to propose a Naval Blockade of Africa; that is FAR RIGHT and EXTREMIST as well.
National revolutionaries vs social revolutionaries...unless you create a National socialism against international socialism/Bolshevism.
"Mussolini's Fascism was thus both a revival of revolutionary nationalism and an adaptation of revolutionary syndicalism. Fascist economic unions were used to mobilize the masses; and after the march on Rome in 1 922, the Fascist corporative state was organized along vertical lines by industries in a manner previously favored by syndicalist strike organizations."
And more: "Engels' Revolution and Counter-Revolution in Germany of 1851-52 blamed the failure of the German revolution on the timidity of the bourgeois liberals who led it. But some share of the blame might also be allotted to the extremism of the communist program, which frightened workers as well as bourgeois liberals and gave a pretext for repression to reactionaries. The displaced journeymen who provided the rank and file for the German upheavals felt threatened by intellectuals who sought to manipulate them with unfamiliar terminology. As was to be the case later-in Italy on the eve of Mussolini and Germany on the eve of Hitler-extremism on the Left played a role in preparing the way for reaction on the Right"-James H Billington, 13th Librarian of Congress
It's not, no normal person thinks a marxist DN goofball calling somebody fascist is actually fascist. Don't work
“Expert on Facism and Authoritarinism” hahaha, great joke
We are the experts, aren't we? ✋ We know so much better. ☝ We know more about anything than anyone, believe me. 👐
She's an expert on selling books on the topic, for sure. Which is exactly what she's doing now in this video.
@@50-50_Grind well USA is so good at pretending to not be far right
only a practicioner can be an expert on authoritarianism
Go Moloni!!! 👍👍👍💪💪💪
You know those people, are not fascists, stop the hypocrisy 🤨
My maternal grandfather immigrated to the USA from Italy at age 16. Returned to italy at age 24 to fight in the Italian Army during WW1. Finally, he immigrated back to the USA when Mussolini came to power in 1924, never to return to Italy.
Lovely story.
Now make a movie about it.
Sad.
yeaaaaaaaaaaa
The anger and contempt this fascist lady speaks with is off the charts. Pretty scary stuff.
I notice that. She's a horrible far left twisted feminist nazi who aligns with the EU and globalism.
I don't blame you for being scared, most of your politicians are old men who constantly talk like they're on their seat bed, the moment you see one speak with passion you lose your shit
Which lady are you refering too?
@@algerianmonarchist8017 what? LOL. I was talking about the fascist lady from Italy. That's more than just passion, unless of course you agree with fascism.
@@kleinbottled79 my apologies, I edited the original post to reflect the fascist lady I was speaking of. I thought it was kind of apparent, but I could be wrong. 😀
so happy that Italians now realized that Italians has to be for Italians alone...
🇬🇧🇮🇹🍾🎉Amazing Result ❤
Classic britoid supporting fascist sympathizers
Love Italy from Taiwan 🇹🇼 ❤ 🇮🇹
You're seriously correlating a woman with traditional beliefs as "far right", and in the same league as Mussolini? You guys are horribly ignorant of history.
Because it worked out so well the last time.