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- The "Fratelli d'Italia" political party has neo-fascist roots and its leader, Georgia Meloni, could become the country’s next prime minister.
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#Italy #GeorgiaMeloni #Fascism
Every country has the right to preserve their culture and language.
You are arguing a strawman here. No one is arguing for the destruction of Italian culture, we are arguing against Georgia Meloni, a fascist.
Tell that to Germany. A culture of hate isn't a culture, it's a disease.
Lul
Yes, they do. But what Meloni is also doing is aborting abortion, going against the LGBT, and bringing back facism. She is overly-nationalistic and shows all the warning signs of a facist leader.
If she is a fascist, I don't support her. But DW is a channel that hates anyone who doesn’t subscribe to their leftist ideas and likes to put ideas of internal national conflict in people’s heads.
when you say that "italians want new faces" you should mention that giorgia has been in the parliament for the past 25 years and that's clear not the reason why so many people are switching to this "new" face. rather than looking at what people see, we should be understanding how she has been portraited by italian medias.
Bravo!!
This is exactly the case we had in Brazil: our current far right wing president Jair Bolsonaro was in congress for 28 years talking nonsense, and he won for presidency as a "new face".
@@BrandonCCB that s what i was thinking of. None of the italian media tried to gi through the Brazilian parallel although it seems extremely logical to do so
Tutti I politici italiani sono incompetenti e bugiardi, mi rendo conto Calenda possa essere un po' meglio di Meloni ma nel complesso non fa tanta differenza, siamo comunque nella merda
God, country, family...DW: far right 😱😱😱 !!!!
Well, Italy, Sweden, Denmark (in some regards), Germany... If you want to know the reason why this kind of movements are growing, there is a simple answer to that - people were saying loud and clear what they don't like in the "left" wing government policies and nobody listened, nobody cared. So this is what you get. And by no means I support any kind of extremists, but I sure see where did this come from. And it's gonna get worse with all the stuff going on in the world and in Europe.
Exactly it's the biggest "I told you so" in the history of mankind.
yes. I'm Swedish and you're completely correct. when the left pushes too far and ignored us for decades.. Obviously we'll choose the right. it's not even far right.. all they say is "perhaps we should take care of swedes before we try to save the world". which seems pretty reasonable.
I know what you mean. I can also see that. The issue is when the left wing governments shout down opposition by calling them every "ism" and "ist" in the book instead of finding a resolution and listening to everyone. Generally when people feel unheard, is when s**t hits the fan.
Yes. We have a growing fascist opposition movement and they are dangerous.
Problem is we have an equally dangerous fascist movement in a lot of European governments right now.
Remember: Fascism is a left invention and Mussolini was a radical socialist!
Germany is probably one on the few Euopean countries without a big far right movement.
Fascism only takes root when the establishment has utterly failed. They take genuine grievances that are unaddressed, ignored, or even caused by the establishment, and promise solutions to the suffering populace when no more palatable option will. That's no less true now than it has always been. I don't know enough about Italian politics to make an informed judgement here on her politics, but if she is a fascist, then the other Italian politicians need to look at themselves and ask themselves some seriously pointed questions.
this is just not true
@@gammitegammitesonjr167 Go study some history about the build up to WWII.
One of the problem the other parties needed to deal with is that they themselves were hampered by a) corruption b) the mafia c) being incompetent d) being proto-fascist themselves e) or having to work with proto-facists.
@@Afterthoughtbtw as if every period of history is the same as the build up to WW2. go study more.
@@Afterthoughtbtw oh i know a lot about ww2 : )
Support for her and italy to keep its culture and dignity from croatia
untill italy decides to claim istria and dalmatia
@@Zetaaktion they can try. They will not. Period
@@filiphlupic1582 Dalmatia is Italia, as it always was. Fiume is Italia.
@@filiphlupic1582 lmao dude, you gonna keep telling yourself that until it happens?
Maybe Italy could claim back something from Croatia, let's make a sham referendum. does it make fair sense for you?
4:48 the alphabets fear everybody. Playing the victim card is their only political culture
smear
LIE
*_SLANDER_* and if none of that works then their enemy just has an "unfortunate" airplane accident
business, as usual in the run up to "Nineteen Eighty-Four"
5:20 "me ne frego" was a mussolini slogan, so she answered that question a lot clearer than just saying that she doesn't mind being called a fascist!
Its great really. She nailed the asthetic, she uses the right words, she shows off her believing in one of of the worst political convictions and the people love her for that. Clown world moment.
And she shouldn't.
'Me ne frego' is a very often used expression in italian which means 'I don't care'
It is very popular, not very polite but nothing to do with fascism.
The fact that you refer to Mussolini Is the typical political game to prevent people to vote for right wing parties.
This time it will not work since Giorgia Meloni will for sure win these elections.
@@daniele_go mmhmm very credible post. xD
It was popularized by the poet and war veteran D'Annunzio.
In many parts of the world this problem have increased.
Globalization, culture shock, immigrants, refugge and citizens with psychological trobles, no manners, and personal frustrations, theses things and others, also seemed be the reason. I think we need to look at the reasons.
Many cities and countries got great development, but many people in these same places didn't follow the same path.
I blame the intolerant instead of the immigrants. Every immigrant I met was hard working and tough. All the intolerant racists I ever met were lazy and ignorant.
it's liberalism and its excesses
This is basically Mexico's problem and the endless waves of caravans.
@@wall.e8096 Nah, blaming liberalism is a cowardly refusal to look at one's own mistakes.
@@Halcon_Sierreno Blaming Mexico is the lazy way out. The real solution requires a hard look at your own flaws and mistakes. The blame game is an addiction.
The irony is that Britain's immigration policy is more strict than the one championed by this lady.
Britain is secretly racist. Rischi Sunak didn't win for his skin, I'm 100% of that
Well, Italy needs more people; they are going to run out of Italians with the rapid population decrease and without immigration the economy and the country is gonna collapse...
@@chrismathewjoseph1283 I have no wish to quarrel - really - but Italy's unemployment rate is about 8%, more than twice the unemployment rate of Britain, which is about 3.6%. Italy may also be on the verge of collapse as you say, but not for a lack of immigrants
@@chrismathewjoseph1283 That's a short term solution which has few benefits (immigrants are mostly illiterate) and many flaws (illiterate people can't find a job so they resort to criminal activities). We don't need more people but more efficiency, more productivity.
In London alone there are some 250,000 registered Italian nationals, plus about as many unregistered ones, which ironically makes London the fifth largest 'Italian' city in the world and certainly the 'youngest' one.
The vast majority of those people are young men and women who left Italy because they could not find a job at home. So, it is difficult to back the statement that Italy needs more and more workers from abroad.
Lol they take pieces of the speech and put them out of context to make her look bad; you can tell she is right 🇮🇹🇮🇹🖤
I know right? I mean what's the problem being nationalist? I also don't understand where is the problem if a country starts caring about its own people more than immigrants?
Lol looks like the lefties as always don't have common sense.
Nope
They must be taken pointers from American MSM
She's borderline fascist. But the main problem, in my opinion, is that her program is all in favour of the higher classes and against the poor people. So there is a huge contradiction regarding her popularity, because many of those who are going to vote for her, will do so against their economic interest. In other words, ignorance is the main drive of her popularity.
So poor Italians will pay through their nose for their votes... Just like the Tory voters British. I don't mind consequences for the voters! Let them suffer!
@@marilenaganea6578 Poor leftist back to gender studies
@Marioreds thanks for this clear analysis, same is for the AfD Parti in Germany, they profit from political ignorance of the mass and work for the rich elite, not for the working class
And the current joker in S. Korea gov't
The problem is that the left has become the party if the radical chic, riches, and bankers.
The left party in Italy is leader among the 5k monthly income.
Ask yourself why people vote the opposite
Bicchhh
The woman at the end openly said "me ne frego", a former slogan of the Mosulini regime and a fascist dog whistle
Great news. Means there's hope yet 👍
If anybody’s interested the translated version is I don’t care
@@thisisprogress6817 Hope for a primitive nationalist self-destruction? Why would you want that? What is your iq?
Jesus, seriously
Me ne frego' is a very often used expression in italian which means 'I don't care'
It is very popular, not very polite but nothing to do with fascism.
The fact that you refer to Mussolini Is the typical political game to prevent people to vote for right wing parties.
This time it will not work since Giorgia Meloni will for sure win these elections.
What a totally UNFOUNDED, BASELESS accusation ‘her supporters are former Mussolini fans’ .
I mean when they have a symbol that literally represents fascism... It's not too far off
I love how everithing slightly anti EU, LGBT, gender ideology, etc is automatically labeled populist and fascist. Just ridiculous.
Labelling others is all the left have they are the fascists they are everything they label others.
How is bein against peoples identity and sexuality not fascism ? Are you serious
"Everithing slightly anti EU, LGBT, gender ideology, etc." Do you still hold this status now that Meloni's party has stripped LGBT couples of co-parental rights? It is now illegal for two people of the same sex to have the same custody over a child, and in a developed country too!
@@lingochuuchuu8138 I'm sure Italy is going to collapse because of that. LGBT is a social topic but is absolutely NOT a "checkbox" for being a developed country . And no, it's not fascism, they are not being persecuted or jailed, are thay?
@@viciousv9671 LGBT has a lot of agenda. People's sexual orientation is fine. But this identity nonsense isb etting out of hand. If there's a man, identifying as a woman, dresses as one, acting as one, fine, it's his right. But he has no right to force me to view him as a woman because to me, he's a bioligical man. Period. That does not make me fascist.
Fa sc is m ca me from th e fa r l ef t and w as a for m of (sta te) soc ia lis m, so no pe, not ba ck in Ita ly.
Lol no it obviously from the right. get a clue
@@wolfheadedconjuror : Wrong. Both founders of fa scis m, Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile were devout soc ialis ts. Giovanni Gentile also directly says, that fa scis m is a form of soc ialis m.
@@_Historia.Magistra.Vitae. Wrong, Mussolini early career started in the socialist party but he clearly drifted ever further right and now is the hallmark of rightwing economics and authoritarian rule (=fascism). Check the political compass for education
@@wolfheadedconjuror : Incorrect. He drifted further right from mar xis m after getting kicked out from the PSI, however he still remained within so cial ism. Mussolini never stopped being a socia list and he despised rig ht win g econo mics i.e. the bourgeoisie.
_"You cannot get rid of me because I am and always will be a soc ialist. You hate me because you still love me.“_
- Benito Mussolini, Denis Mack Smith, Mussolini: A Biography (1983) p. 8. As quoted by Mussolini after he was expelled from the Italian Soci alist Party in 1914. 1910s
_"Do not believe, even for a moment, that by stripping me of my membership card you do the same to my Soc ialist beliefs, nor that you would restrain me of continuing to work in favor of Soci alism and of the Revolution.“_
- Benito Mussolini, Speech at the Italian Soci alist Party’s meeting in Milan at the People’s Theatre on Nov. 25, 1914. Quote in Revolutionary Fascism by Erik Norling, Lisbon, Finis Mundi Press (2011) p. 88. 1910s
_"Some still ask of us: what do you want? We answer with three words that summon up our entire program. Here they are…Italy, Republic, Socialization... Socialization is no other than the implantation of Italian Socia lism…“_
- Benito Mussolini, Speech given by Mussolini to a group of Milanese Fas cist veterans (October 14, 1944), quoted in Revolutionary Fasci sm, Erik Norling, Lisbon, Finis Mundi Press (2011) pp.119-120. 1940s
@@_Historia.Magistra.Vitae. I guess we should take Mussolini at his word than. Good, honest chap he was
Fascism and hyper nationalism are two easy tools to make a large number of population blind. That's how the Modi came to power in India, not once, but twice, even after worst economy, unemployment and healthcare disaster. They just need divide people by we vs they, in terms of anything, religion or richness or nationality or cast or opinion or ... 🫠
It works that way for any ideology. Not just fascism but all the others. Humans are tribal by nature and are easily exploited by good and bad.
Because it's always us vs them the problem
Most people voted Modi because of his freebee policy not for nationalism. Media told you lies.
Honor to Italy from Sweden, We just won with the Nationalist in our election, now we root for Italy to follow
Congratulations to Sweden from 🇺🇸
@@windykingdom6153 thanks
We’re hoping for similar results here in Denmark. The Denmark Democrats inspired by their Swedish counterparts are looking to become one of the biggest parties in parliament in the upcoming election. We’re seeing a change for the better in all of Europe.
@@paramaaz Yeah The Sweden Democrats aimed for one of the biggest then the second biggest and now we are aiming for the biggest
@@paramaaz I wish you all the best
Any amateur student of history could tell you that fascism is never the answer to anything.
Anyone with eyes and a functioning brain could articulate why "facism" is coming back.
Turns out demonising people, blaming them for everything that the people in power did and telling them what to think pushes them away
🇮🇹 Italy needs to fix the immigration crisis and the economy.
@@VeriteLexicon lmao Italy has far bigger problems than immigration. Italy’s economy is increasingly based on tourism, and tourism has taken a hit in the last three years. Italy needs to move beyond tourism and pasta, it’s time to actually educate its people. Obviously the Italians forgot how things went under Mussolini
no where in this video makes clear why this group is a fascist group. the media can make things look diffrent.
True. And equally true of communism.
Is right wing fascism now? Genuine question though.
It depends on what you say, what you say you want to do, what symbols you display ... Some right wing parties do use many Fascist features in disguise, quite obviously. Some are even openly Fascist.
@Denny Arista: Well the co mm ies are trying hard to push fa scis m and naz is m to the right while both ideologies were different branches of so cialis m.
No those the left label ‘right wing’ are just plain right and see through their elitist marxist and activist twisted agenda.
The extreme left label everyone who disagrees with their real fascist agenda as facists.
@@BradleyUK58 And real fascists call leftists fascists, go get a real job!
Why, when in Austria, or Spain the right-wing parties get noticed at the elections, nobody makes a video about nazism or fascism coming back to those countries? For example, when I compare FDI to parties like FPÖ in Austria, I would say that Meloni is a moderate right-wing candidate. Even the Austrian ÖVP is more right-wing than FDI, what are we talking about?
Maybe because Italy is the third economy in Europe and here was born the first totalitarist ideology in the past century, even before of Germany
@@ekoeschannel140
Nah..Austria gave birth some significant right wing figures too..
@@Mrac-zz8vh : You mean a le ft wi ng dictator with a funny mustache.
@@_Historia.Magistra.Vitae.
Yes, that guy. In the economic sense...lefties always want to control the whole world..
there are a lot of Videos about the Fpö in Austria and its connections to the far right and it is a big topic in Germany.
By ‘Far-Right’ you mean not a radical leftist? Got it.
Yeah, pretty much what the word “fascism” devolved into. Once upon a time the word fascism used to be something to fear. Now it’s just a joke and a buzzword with no real meaning
All i see is big media labeling this elected official an extremest. But their stock is low, low, low. Whatever happened to free press. I guess it went out with the 90’s.
It is very Italian to blame foreigners (especiall the EU) for their own incompetence and corruption. I dont think that will ever change.
Certainly when Silvio Berlusconi is on her side. Look up... Controversies surrounding Silvio Berlusconi on Wikipedia. The list is so long. She would be ruling with his party
Lots of social problems, crime and clashes in european countries can be tracked back to irresponsible migration policy. It's not the fault of everything, but it's obviously a factor. Only a dishonest person or someone incapable of seeing could say otherwise.
@@anacc3257 Italy has decades of political instability, in my opinion it was the most internally unstable non Warsaw pact nation in Europe for much of the later 20th century. There was widespread and open political violence including the assassination of a PM. I'd say immigration is a miniscule factor and only a straw man to cover up a deeply flawed political system.
@Hello World Everything she says is anti-EU policy. The fact she isn't publicly isn't playing hardball against the EU is because Italy is taking so much immigrants because they get the most money of the EU recovery funds. Italy won't survive without the EU. She never getting a deal on immigration from the EU. The EU would sanction Italy. Then you'll see Meloni anti-EU stance. That's her trick! You can see it coming from a mile off. She wouldn't have any power though. Italy would fall into poverty without the EU.
The fact is that Italy is stuck. They follow Europe's policies or they fall. Imagine Italy going back to the Lire currency and discover that now suddenly everything is twice as expensive as it was compared to when they had the Euro. Inflation would be through the roof. While Euro debt to gdp falls with 20% because Italy is out. The EU wins in every way. Maybe not in unity, but certainly in money. The EU would also make a example of Italy when they decide to leave the EU. This is not gonna be like the Brexit in any way, shape or form.
It is very racist*
Everything she said sounded right to me.
Get your hearing checked. Maybe a brain scan too while you’re at it.
Brexit voter spotted
I'd even say "far right".
@@magesalmanac6424 tell me specifically what she said that was wrong
@@John_7775 not going along with the western world propoganda is what’s wrong. Most of us westerners can’t handle people governing themselves and wanting to stay out of this experiment
The rise of people who love and care for their country.
Look, If they Want to Love and Care for their Country, They Could Submit to Russia and China;0
@@ahuskyplaythough3826
The U.K. is getting more like China everyday our politicians are corrupt to the core.
I love Italy and it's beautiful and friendly people , one of the best Countries in EU . Best of Luck Italy 🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹💕💕💕💕
Italy is the most racist country in the entire world
Probably because you don't live in Italy
@@mentulamagna but it's true what she said.
Bot
Have you ever been to Italy?
It’s the Same Playbook everywhere.
The Immigrant Targeting Women. 😂
Her Party must be filled with Men
who have a History of Cases. 😉☝🏼
The majority of sexual assaults are carried out by men from or first descendants from Africa, the middle East, and central asia. Check the data.
That woman can not be a teacher! So it is EU's fault that Italy gets all the gas from Russia? Not Italy's fault for not being smart and spreading the risk? It's like small children that don't want to take responsibility, just blaming everybody else. Weak weak small children, no good!
Well, to some extend it is; Common energy market and such. There has been a push to privatise the energy market and make a big EU market out of it. In that context nation-states have a hard time to diversify their market through national legislative input.
As Italian I totally agree
Both left and right claim that Italy is "too big to fail" and so we can be the the biggest free-rider of EU forever.......
As an Italian, I agree.
Yep, that’s exactly what they are. It’s crazy how they have as much say in politics as the rest of us.
What has Russian done to Italy, you, or me ? - - NOTHING for God's sake can't you un derstand that's Europe who caused this problem - - tooth for a tooth eye for an eye - - -
For every action there is a reaction
For a long time
Cool. Let's invade Libya!
The fact they calling the party Fascist when the party isn't fascist at all is problematic.
This is how the Western Left fights with information. They call names and use slurs, and impose such descriptions on their unsuspecting viewership, who unfortunately never question such descriptions or try to figure out why they're used. That's how they indoctrinate millions at a time.
Exactly. 👍🏻 But they are in the business of lying.
They speak like fascist, think like fascist, some of their members are doing the roman salute publicly, they have a post-fascist symbol in their symbol, they support neofascist politicians.... sure, they are not fascist at all!
The symbol of their party literally represents fascism... It was created by Mussolini's right hand man a year after he died specifically to continue and represent Mussolini's fascist ideology
What do you expect exactly? Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. This is the reaction from the eurozone far leftist policies of the last decade.
Name a 'far leftist policy' and describe your understanding of what you mean by 'left wing'. Too many people throwing the phrase 'far left' without really explaining the details.
You might hurt your brain stretching it all the way over to the far leftist.
@@Morning404 sure. What would you call the policy changes surrounding the “lgbt” movement of the last decade? What would you call the policy changes surrounding the “green” energy movement of the last decade (really paying off these days lmao)? How about immigration?
You can argue until youre blue in the face, but this is the reaction to those things i just mentioned, and its just the beginning.
@@Kbcqw LGBT has existed since the beginning of history - times and attitudes change. Your right wing faction is just triggered that gay and trans people are more accepted and people don't believe in religious dogma and myths that keep people divided. If that's what you consider far left and it triggers you then stay coping bro. The world will move on without you.
@@Morning404 i have no issues with gay people or trans people and im an atheist. Stop making assumptions because youre getting flustered…
Lgbt is a political movement. I disagree with the political movement, and many more people do as well. Until you, and people like you, realize that, you will see more and more of these types of reactions.
The reason this resonates is that the media drums the drums.
If the media was more honest with the facts less engaging we'd be better off as this would disable the social media nut jobs.
If people stopped looking for drama, the media would stop focusing on it.
You’re literally a social media nut job
What is the media supposed to do? Journalists have to eat, and they only get paid if what they publish gets consumed. The world might be better in some ways, but news for news sake with a focus on facts would disappear (and it's already on life support)
There is political instability not only in Italy but also in some other European nation such as German and Czech. Most of these instability was the result of the gas prices and the fact that there are many in Italy who did not approve of sending weapons to Ukraine resulting in a disappointment from the people. Bad economy produce disappointment, With Disappointment comes Political instability, With Political instability comes unrest, with Unrest comes radicals.
Or so that's how the cycle used to rotate. I don't know what the German people think about their Foreign Minister openly saying "I will put Ukraine first no matter what my German voters think or how hard their life gets", Democracy should have allowed them to get a saying in this matter like asking if the population
(the voters) are ok with this. I guess it makes sense to help the people in most need first but then again, Their whole nation is in need of something as well and so far they did not get it. Anybody wouldn't be surprised if suddenly some radicals gains much more influence because the situation created by the current government and the EU will turn them to became the symbol of change if things keep going down hill.
Seriously though, European Economy and American Economy is currently going down probably straight to the toilet. If nobody can save it, i guess it will be better to pick a new leader, preferably someone who has the toilet paper to clean up the mess.
Note: I don't think Giorgia is a fascist though, she might be right-leaning but not to that level. She had amazing skills behind the podium though, that alone can secure her a seat in the government, you know, like Obama but better.
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SOME noisy italian leftists, who are as well pro-russian, former communists and anti americans, are against helping Ukraine.
This happens because they are frustrated that we - as a nation - are not a happy communist place, where they can torture people.
The percentage of italian communists, FYI, lie in approx. 3/4% of the voters.
They are nothing but they make a lot of noise, just because nobody shut them up in the name of pluralism.
The largest part of italian people is indeed horrified by the russian fascism and their war of aggression.
Meloni already added 2 motorized rocket launchers (of the 12 we have in total) to be added to our military help to Ukraine (they are similar to the Himars, just to give a context); this adds to the almost complete stock of motorized 155mm Howitzers (made in Italy in the late seventies) that Draghi already sent in the Kherson area. The so called "pacifists" screaming against "arms sent to Ukraine" are few junkies from social centres, heirs of the dead and buried Italian Communist Party. Don't bother: all they can do is smoke dope, wash poorly and talk nonsense.
Italian here, You can trust what I say.
And no, Italy is not returning to fascism, this is IMPOSSIBLE: we are vaccinated already.
Unfortunately Russia, N Korea, China and some other authoritarian disgraced countries have still that old virus we have unfortunately invented.
But not Italy, ever again.
It is more likely to hear Kamala and Brandon making coherent sentences, than italians attempting again to rebuild the roman empire.
Been there, done that.
Nope. You can all sleep tight.
No the instability is caused by the politically correct elite and their failed politically motivated immigration policies.
funnily, in the comment section of the German version of this video, everyone is very understanding regarding the Italians there
I understand German, and you're lying.
In the German version, DW reports the same story but in German.
Art school😁😁
@@Thor.Jorgensen in the comment section
@@jollyjokress3852 Nice edit.
@@Thor.Jorgensen yeah had to change i thought "under" the video would suffice as description of what I meant.
Nothing wrong with keeping us Roman.
Missing context at 5:20 - when asked whether it bothers her to be accused of fascism, Mercedes Usai responds by quoting Benito Mussolini, “ne me frego.”
wise man
Italian ignorance and rage grievance hysterics. She's a fool like the rest of them. 🇮🇹 ⚡️⚡️ 🇮🇹
Translation of "Me ne frego" in English. Verb. I don't care I don't give a damn. I do not care.
@@steadmanuhlich6734 The cultural/historical context is that every Italian knows that this is a quote from Mussolini. The dictionary translation misses the point.
@@twestgard2 Thank you for explaining that. I added the translation, because the audience for this video may include people who do NOT speak/read Italian and do not know the meaning of the Italian words (or contextual meaning).
Time to visit Italy again. I miss the smell of rosemary in the air.
Italy is a beautiful country.
I saw this kind of madness coming when Europe goed to full open border policy. It is like calling fasist to power.
Fascist only come into being in the face of communism. Fascism is not a malevolent or offensive ideology, but at its core is built upon a love of nation and a willingness to defend it. Fascism is what happens when good people tire of playing games. You decide what to take from that and if it's a good thing or an over reaction or what, but you must understand fascism never pops up in a vacuum. When a nation is not morally bankrupt and divorced from her heritage fascism never arises.
Europe doesn't a have a full open border policy.
I am more worried about the rise of the far left, but mainstream media typically see only one side
Far left an far right are a great danger for the world
You do realize if a far-left candidate came THEY would be heckled too right?
@@spider-mv6442 they most certainly wouldn’t
@@kova1577 Yes they would, although it would be mostly right-wingers heckling them.
My parents are Italian, so do I. My parents raised me Just like any Italian family would do. Now we live outside of Italy and to be honest I do not even think about going back to ... Unfortunately
Da che parte d’Italia sei?
@@lores996 mio padre è di Milano
Mia madre Calabria/ Longobardi
I can't wait to leave again
Wow, it's pretty sad that you're deciding not to go to Italy only because someone was elected that you don't like 😕
@@pietroscarpa2384 "This is a 03 party coalition 02 of the parties has been openly pro Russian" this is Giorgia Meloni coalition.
We can't accept what's going on with ukranian people
Bad times often comes with bad decisions.
Correct. Sufferings follows the wrong steps ( decision ).
True - Declaring an economic war with Russia was the worst decision - nothing but bad times ahead for Europe.
@@skozzi2845 We are helping Ukraine, we are destroying Russia once and for all, Europe did the right decision.
So, now is time for better decisions. Past 15 years been nothing but bad decisions in European countries.
@@thefallen1383 You - Germany/EU/UK are being played by the US - your economies are doomed now and you cheer your own demise - wake up. Russia's fine btw.
In rome there is more north africans then italians
@Idea of Nation i have italian friend. Italians are moving to kanada from there
It is not about facism in general it is more about economic crisis creat fear and hate and this economic crisis was created by our own European politicians. The next countries will show the same pattern.
Economic downturn, politicians willing to offer scapegoats and seemingly easy and fast solutions...
@tony pal so in your world Putin controls the world?
Or do you just want to frame the discussion?
Make Italy Great Again - Sounds good to me.
"Great again" my guy... fascism ruined italy, literal decades of death and suffering
Italy was GREAT when they surrendered in WWII. Thats it.
When people want change other than to liberal , it is always termed as right wing and fascist , undemocratic what ever . ...
That's because nobody CARES what liberalism is anymore...
Any marches with torches in Italy? Ukraine had been doing it. But no, they are not fascists, they are fine people😏
Blah blah blah....nobody believes you when you say she is fascist. You just make yourself look ridiculous. Well done Italy!
DW just called millions of people fascists ... What is this
The American Government says that about half its population so what do you expect?
Fascism ❤️
Average Italian
People are angry and exhausted their options so are just looking for change. They feel they have nothing to lose. They are desperate. When her party fails the pendulum will swing again. Italian govts don't last long.
People haven't exhausted their options. They're just not willing to put the work in for the hard options.
Keep coping
Does this show that the 'right' always undervalues education excessively through their politics... so that when times are tough the ignorant always vote 'right' or far-right.
Jesus! I knew the communist DW would so such hit job on her!
The Italian Brotherhood party attracts fascists and non fascists alike because Italy is a Democracy and everyone has the right to have an opinion and a political view. My country is not a totalitarian regime like the one the far left is pushing the world to with a global Socialist/totalitarian rule.
Fascists are just as pro-totalitarian as the far left though. And fascism at its core is against democracy and against dissent of opinion. They would not allow differing opinions if they had power. So if Meloni's party is not fascist and supports democracy, they should make that clear and not work with supporters of fascists.
@@Riel_Rami 100% correct, however there is a law in Italy which criminalizes the reorganization of the Fascist party and even if one party attracts the support of right-wing extremists doesn't mean the party itself would be Fascist. The German socialists should worry about how they have ran their country and not worrying about the politics of their neighbors. Both Socialism and Fascism (which is another form of Socialism) should be discourage as they are both incompatible with Capitalism.
We should all support her, she's a woman. Stop being misogynistic.
Lol.
so the only thing that is "fascist" about Meloni is the flame symbol? Keep in mind Mussolini was a Socialist and Fascism is more connected with Socialist ideology than anything on the right. Given the Center and Left have failed to tackle the illegal immigration issue, Italy is left with no choice but to turn to the Right.
The thing is that political spectrum is not a line but a circle. If you move far enough from the center it does not matter much if you go far left of far right. Both ends just meet in a single point of tyrany where political ideas and people in general don't really matter anymore. Everything can only be good in moderation.
@@Kirillissimus so why do the media insist on labeling those against illegal immigration as "far right" instead of "far left"?
@@Kirillissimus : Incorrect. The fundamental differences between left-wing and right-wing ideologies center around the the rights of individuals vs. the power of the government. Left-wing beliefs are liberal in that they believe society is best served with an expanded role for the government. People on the right believe that the best outcome for society is achieved when individual rights and civil liberties are paramount and the role - and especially the power - of the government is minimized. The more right you go, the less tyranny you can get.
Great place - most fit city . Never did so much uphill walking
So... Is Italy going to depend on one single person? Even if she succeeds, what will happen to Italy after her death? Will it be like Barcelona after Messi left the team?
What I have to say is if Italians want to be free, they have to do everything they can for themselves. Depending on others will put you at risk of getting screwed over.
Lmfao like rulers rule for life in Italy. What a weird question.
She'll be gone in 6 months, 1 year tops. Mark my words.. U can scream how much u want, but when you're behind the desk with numbers and tough decisions to make, there's no room for talking
@@lucadesanctis563 Far right-wings always stronger and stubborn than left.
Mark my word, she will not gone.
Italy should ditch the fascist EU dictatorship.
@@BradleyUK58
EU should ditch the fascist Italian dictatorship, as well as the Polish and Hungarian ones. Only good countries like Germany should remain
Proper title would have been: "Conservative victory in Italy raises concern across European leftists".
That would have not been misleading.
And this would have been a channel about journalism, not about biased disinformation.
Well, one cannot have everything, really...
I call it a return to normality and sanity...
Me too
Arise Romans !
ALL HER IDEAS ARE GREAT
Many have forgotten the Les Miserables Show. Specifically the songs in it like : I Dreamed A Dream", "Do You Hear The People Sing" and " One More Day". The Song Lyrics are instructive and relevant to what is now happening in Europe.
" One Day More To A New Beginning. Raise The Flag Of Freedom High. Every Man Will Be A King. There Is A New World To Be Won".
Ursula, Borrell, Michel and the others in the EC and EUP have been warned.
people have forgotten Weimar Germany
history rhymes
the EU will try and "PACIFY" resistance, they cannot kill everyone
it would be great if this time, NorthAmerica stays TF out of this meltdown, this time.. and just let europe eat iself and die
Why are energy prices so bad in Italy right now? Doesn't Sicily have one of the main oil refineries in the region?
refineries does'nt mean you have all the raw material you need. Italy does possess some oil, but it's not enough. Refineries without oil are useless.
Not enough for 60 mln poeple :D
@@richi9289 Hmm, fair point
@@dersven4122 That's a very good point
So what is Far Right classed as these days? Supporting your country? What is Fascism now, disagreeing with the Left?
yes. taking care of your own citizens instead of taking in millions of people from the Middle east who rapes and murders ypur population. that is racism and fascist. how dare you?
99% of politicians are crooks and liars with hidden agendas. "Left" and "Right" are artificial constructs created to keep people angry, scared, but most importantly DIVIDED so that certain politicians obtain power. This isn't new.
If you are literally fanboying for a dead facist dictator by using symbols from his grave and using slogans for your campaign Mussolini used in the 1920s I am not sure how you cant see these as cheap facist copies.
She is far right, against eu, against euro, a flat tax that benefits only the rich, all the problems are because of immingrants, italy as the best nation-culture-religion, against social programs, against abortion, against lgbt, she uses a fascist symbol ecc she is 100% far right/neofascist. If it feels-smells-acts-talks like a fascist, she probably is one.
Pretty much. Far Right is everyone who doesn't totally agree with the government's authority. Fascism is what wannabe totalitarian lefties accuse everybody of who doesn't want to go along with their totalitarianism.
I dont think it's very fascist to protect your own country's borders. That said I don't know much about about this person's other platform ideas.
No that is exactly what a fascist would say.. Of course they typically attack scapegoats instead of offering real solutions.
Her economic and social policies are quintessentially fascist: a dangerous mix of protectionism, big government, the rejection of free competition, anti-market illiberalism, plus the protection of Italy's "way of life" against minorities of all kinds. She's not just a conservative. She's economically and socially illiberal.
@Pelegrini - E2 Macron and Meloni are like le jour et la nuit
Very biased video, superficial, with trivial 'clichés'.
At 3:20 your say that Giorgia plans are vague.
Have you taken the time to read her 50 pages agenda and plans on all key political themes (illegal immigrants, Energy, unemployement, education, etc) ?
A peculiarity of Italy is that there are often technical governments, unlike other countries they are not temporary to bring the country to elections but these are more durable, making very unpopular policies, having no voter constraint, like the toughest covid measures in all European Union (covid pass in all public places even at work, masks outside, compulsory vaccine). In cases like Draghi the popularity of the prime minister may be high (on the other hand Mario Draghi is Mario Draghi) but the other ministers are not very popular. In addition, there are parties that despite the votes received are below 20%, due to wrong choices made by parties with more votes, have been severely conditioning the country's politics for over 10 years. All this creates great disaffection in the electorate, which votes only in protest, bringing many faces to parties that in other opinions perhaps would not enter parliament, in fact Fdi was the only consistant party against Draghi government.
popularity of Draghi is very low in Italy, believe me, though the media say the opposite.
@@roadrelics8162 I live in Belluno province in the far north east of Italy, a forgotten area, with serious problem of depopulation, closer to Lviv in Ukraine than Rome, is not considered by politician and institutions even if it will host the 2026 Winter Olympics. In my village of less than 1800 inhabitants the mayor is also a Senator of Meloni party. Everyone I know voted for him and Fdi
Ho visto che sei italiano, allora potevo anche risponderti in italiano, il principio è che vivo in una zona molto periferica, dimenticata dalle istituzioni sia venete che nazionali, qui sono certo che Giorgia ha fatto cappotto, mentre penso che la lega, sempre stato il partito più forte, che non ha candidato nessun bellunese da quando esiste sia stata punita severamente. Ps sono di centrodestra e penso che l’unico modo per risolvere i problemi politici dell’Italia sia una repubblica presidenziale federale. Un sistema che unisce il semipresidenzialismo francese al federalismo tedesco
@@anadalet9885 allora siamo sostanzialmente d'accordo
@@roadrelics8162 dagli exit poll la maggioranza sembra esserci. Vediamo se nascerà il primo governo con un premier eletto dal 2008, il primo con a capo una donna e quanto durerà.
Oh DW please, funny how it's always "far" right with your political bs but never far left. Maybe you should report news and not your agenda.
Tell me you're a far left media without telling me your are an abject far left media.
DW, when you will tackle the PROBLEMS that people face instead of targeting any politician that dares to speak out for these problems?
Because it's a serious problem when fascist are elected
Italy for Italians!! Hold to traditional values !! Viva Italia!!
I am Italian and I do not give a damn about what you say... Who cares
@@motorheadbanger7720 What a coincidence because I don't care what you say either.
It’s okay for 80M Italian living aboard especially South America and USA
@@ahsanurr4219 Yes as the USA and much of South America are outposts of European peoples and culture.
Oh no! A critical sound towards the EU. Must be fAcIsM!
U can't blame the EU for ur domestic failures
Things are getting interesting
1:39 How far right! How dare she point out this fact
No. Just Italians standing up for their country.
Who are Italians going to blame this time?
@@MrPurge11 "Others". And dw, she'll last 1 year in office. Usual business here
Finally sound leadership in Europe
they will be embarrassed on the world stage and defeated AGAIN in a fight.
They won't go to war if they don't have allies to go with...
@@tomso9246 the west is already a embarrassment on the world stage, stop coping. These “fascists”, which they are not, will hopefully bring sanity
@@tomso9246 bro, who said they will conquer the world?
@@tomso9246 Go live in China or Russia
Non sono fascisti...
Italians deserve good leadership and sovereignty.
Europe wake up 👊
It never left Italy;..
Why is it fascist to love your own country the most and to believe that your country can do better than multinational organizations?
because fascists become violent and attack the other to horrid extreme conclusions.
Most of the far right groups are in favour of more rights for MNCs.
No that is not Fascist. Incendiating the public against foreigners as the public scape goat is quite Fascist though. I heard such arguments as yours far too often,. So, I wanted to point out what is not necessarily Fascist and what in fact is.
@@richi9289 : Actually fas cis m had no problems with foreigners as long as they willingly subjugated themselves to the fa sc ist St ate. For Mu ssol ini, your alleg iance to the sta te was more important than where you are from.
@@_Historia.Magistra.Vitae. While I completely agree on the focus on allegiance and obedience to the state rather than on race. Fascist Italy did have a nationalist imprint. It was understood as a national movement, so not only submission to the goverment but also to the culture was expected. So, xepnophoby was not foreign to Italian Fascism. Italians regarded Africans as inferior, that conception wass inherited from the common European believe still present at the time that Europeans "were in fact superior" to the other peoples or human races. Nontheless, what Fascism lacked though, was that focus on racial theory because it wouldn't make sense for Italians to support a theory that considers so called Arians, that is northern Europeans superior.
Of course the opposition automatically points to fascism
30 y of economic mismanagement, failure of the EU to manage immigration, what do you expect? Now the democracy we so like to tout as amazing has spoken. What do you want? Maybe some time for self reflection and humility, and less corruption.
Common sense is label as “ far right “ 😂
Don't want to bash Italians but they voted for Berslusconi several times so this is nothing new . This is more related to the political instability of Italy . Every time there is a period of a lot of inestability , small party coalitions that keep breaking up, there is a surge to more " authoritarian " style of politicians. That is until they got into power and they ended up being even more corrupted because there is less accountabiliyy and then the circle starts again . So I am aware that there is a rise in the far right in the world an especially in Italy ,but I am also aware that this is a cycle that keeps repeating itself . We have been there we should be able to learn from it if we truly want.
Although I’m American and have no say in Italian politics, I do agree with almost everything she said.
views like hers destroyed italy before and it will destroy italy again of these insane tribalist gangsters arent stoped
And thats why you should have went to College.
No education can save you
@@tomso9246 College is not a place to go for politics if you do so you get a headache from the left wing bullsh*t
Slogans and nationalism always cater to the base response.
This version of capitalism has enriched the few while most everyone else struggles just for the basics.
That unfairness always breeds anger and rightly so and fixing this should be the main point of society.
Fascists always speak to this basic unfairness that plagues the people but their solutions are even worse than the disease.
Nooo...history has always shown that fascists are good people wanting the best for all, particularly the downtrodden.
@@norwegianzound 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Yup the Facsists so much care about you. Viktor Orban for example siphoning off EU funds to the super Rich elites in Hungary was one example of helping downtrodden.😂😂😂
Left always blames capitalism for everything rather than coming up with valid solutions
@@memnem3787 When you require endless growth your plan is to follow an exponential path, thus your plan will lead to failure. Mathematically capitalism doesn't add up, or worse it adds up to today. To walk a exponential path only works in the beginning. We are way past the easy flat part of the curve, we are headed uphill fast now. Look at world debt - it is following the exponential curve that is growth - for now. The valid solution is to replace the growth and corrupt loving model with a more valuable system that values the valuable and protects the critical. We can't find it until we at least start to look for the new solution.
The third position (fascist) is the only correct way for our civilization. It creates a unity beyond political parties and fights for justice (not the bankers)
Mussolini was a self-described statist of sorts. "Lo Stato - Lo Stato - Lo Stato" seems to have been a favorite phrase of his. Has she said anything so far indicating a belief in a state-based ideology ?
Not at all. I'm Italian and far away from Meloni's view, but these commentators have no idea what they are talking about. Italy is not gonna turn into a totalitarian fascist dictatorship anytime soon. Watch this video again in one year and you will see how badly it aged
I'm trying to find out the same thing.
Fascist today, is a catch all term used to describe any European who wants to preserve their culture, heritage and land.
Me Ne Frego 🇮🇹
"centinaia di villaggi stanno bruciando"
"me ne frego"
"tuo figlio è morto in una guerra inutile"
"me ne frego"
"siamo tutti affamati e viviamo nella paura"
"me ne frego"
abbiamo capito, tu odi l'italia
I wonder how anyone could be so superficial as to label a political movement that has the only defect of being right-wing in this offensive way. What immense pain.
Ich frage mich, wie jemand so oberflächlich sein kann, eine politische Bewegung, die den einzigen Fehler hat, rechts zu sein, auf diese offensive Weise abzustempeln. Was für ein immenser Schmerz.
people on the far left always confuse fascism with patriotism.. saying that you would do anything to your people is 101 representative! or at least should be, saying "i dont care what my electors did, i dont care what the german people think.. we MUST help on ukraine with all cost, even if german people will suffer!" is pretty fasiscm imo
No. They are just the socialists of Germany.
Lets hope she wins, this is the turning point to europe, many other countries turning far right...
Holy damn that would put this continent back on its feet. We can only wish.
Far-right has a track record of ending up deep-underground in Europe.
@@Zogixaas09 It's official. She won. Godspeed to her. We need more EU critics for sure.
So you admit she’s far right?
World War 3, here we come.
Is it far right? Or mainly anti left? And feels it as far right if you are leftish?
Just like their Fascist Ancestors
Pretend like One to Capture Power. 😉☝🏼
Would you consider fascist as far right? (Rhetorical question)
If they literally have a party symbol from mussolinis grave and use direct slogans from Mussolini as another commenter pointed out I would very much consider them far right Mussolini fanboys
@@u.p.1038 actually far left. If you look close into its origins.
She is far right, against eu, against euro, a flat tax that benefits only the rich, all the problems are because of immingrants, italy as the best nation-culture-religion, against social programs, against abortion, against lgbt, she uses a fascist symbol ecc she is 100% far right/neofascist. If it feels-smells-acts-talks like a fascist, she probably is one.
From what I’ve researched, a fascist regime requires a dictatorship. I gather it’s communism with charisma. But she’s an elected official. So labeling her seems wrong to me.
So anybody who wants to live with their own culture and traditions are now far right? WFT!
There is nothing wrong with Europeans loving and supporting our own race, and wanting to protect our countries.
Funny you say that when these same europeans exploited and killed hundreds of millions to make their countries richer
@@zunfix1194 You’re saying people currently alive did that? That’s also not true, Europeans shared their technology and knowledge with other countries, and improved their quality of life
If you've become a stranger in your own country, you've lost control
And where exactly is that the case?
@@u.p.1038 Think about what happens in the countries that receive the most immigrants
@@apromed Nobody becomes a stranger there. Where are you from that you think that?
Facism exists on the left and right. Both ends of the spectrum seek to control.
The self interest of people instead of supporting long term solutions to human rights and European prosperity (support Ukrainian sovereignty) is very sad
So absolute monarchy and dictatorship are fascism?
@web2yt: Well actually fa scis m only exists on the f ar le ft, since it was a form of (state) so ciali sm.
A Ukraine in the corrupt EU will have no sovereignty.
So, if some people in some country don't vote for socialist then is a fascism 🤣🤣🤣🤣
"I love my country" DW = "Far Right"
The state never does anything to you and has no intention of doing it. Get out of the nationalist brainwashing.
😄😄 Leftists are so funny and hypocrite!
A simple answer; Weakness. Fascism is a symptom of personal failings coalescing into a fear filled power move. It is comprised of the most weak willed and weak minded among us, those who fall in the face of authority or act like cowards in the face of adversity. This is a sign that Italy and her people have weakened to the point that they now wish to let fear overrule them
Where have I heard this before