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I just wish Frontier would put in an enjoyable game play loop for collecting these. That and fix the damn exchange rates at traders to something that's better than out right robbery.
Yeah. And it's worse when the forumdads think that if you complain about this at all, it must be because you don't want to "play" the game. I have absolutely no problem taking a lot of time to do Engineering. My problem is the gameplay that revolves around it is NOT what I paid for. At least make the gameplay surrounding mat gathering somewhat compelling. Honestly I don't mind the manufactured materials. You can gather up oodles of those by just blowing up ships. Bring a cargo rack and collector limpet and you're basically set to be a combat salvager. Yeah, exchange rates are complete robbery but you can gather enough mats by just doing combat and trade the junk for what you actually need in that moment.
Raw materials and data, in my opinion, are the absolute worst. You have to land on planets to get this crap. I've never been interested in landing on planets. Not even way back when Horizons was first launched. So now I have to land on some planet and shoot at rocks for an hour. Cool. I wouldn't mind that process if the RNG wasn't complete and total bullshit. The first time I needed raw materials, I spent an hour at a geo site and got fuck all. The amount of materials is too complex. There's no reason there needs to be 20 different raw materials. There's no reason the game needs ~200 completely unique crafting materials. All it does is exponentially inflate the time it takes.
I would be okay with doing some surface prospecting every once in awhile if the loot was cut in half. If I need 8 pieces of Telerium I should be able to get that in a reasonable time frame. When a single geo site contains two dozen nodes, and of those nodes there's 20 possible resources that can drop, it's like looking for a needle in a haystack. I would be okay with the completely non-compelling gameplay if it didn't take as long. Or they could just make it actually interesting and keep everything the same.
I think Guardian stuff is some of the best implementations of how this should work. They require you to land on planets, but it's actually interesting. And you will more than likely gather up enough materials just doing one once to get the thing you set out to get. That's how this shit should work.
Logging out of the game (to desktop) and back in again will preserve the HGE spawn. Going to Menu it will not. Maybe it was different when the video was made, but I just filled up on several top materials by using the log to desktop, log back in, low wake, turn around and drop back in method.
still works jan 20 2021
@@Lusty_Wench the real trick is finding damn hges
still works may 20 2021
Exit to desktop working November 2021. Exiting to Main Menu does NOT work.
Still working on the 7th of December, 2022.
2:43 State filter: You can hold the button and drag down all the checkboxes to select/deselect, instead of clicking each one individually.
I still find the conversion rates of cross trading an insult. This is a game after all. Why not have something like 1:2 ? Why does it have to be fucking 1:6 ?
i would be happy wit g5 to g5 being a 1:4
1:4 or 1:3 would be fine by me. I agree that 1:6 feel like getting robbed. This is why im only recommending you do it with the rarest of the g5 mats.
because fdev have a lot of sadists working for them, they get off on the idea of the players feeling pain. kinda sick when you think about it.
Time sink. The more time people are playing the game the better it looks on metric and for investors. The more people time people play a game the more likely they will by in game transactions.
Yep, basically the grind just went up by 6X
This was tremendously useful! Thank you! I've just started a personal quest to unlock a whole shopping list of weapons and equipment, so I'm glad I found this.
AWESOME VIDEO!! I'm at Dav's Hope, running loops and hopping the boards lols. I am trying to "fill up" as much as possible and what my patience and sanity will allow. And once done there, I'll be looking to see what else I can farm. This tells me what, where, why, how. I had also converted my trading missions from pure credits to high rep or grade 5 mats, and that's been helping in lots of areas too. I have unlocked the Federal rank for the FDS, FAS, and FGS in just a short time, and working on some Empire rank now too. YOur video on recognizing the proper asteroid visually without need of a prospector limpet has seriously improved my mining operations. I have been helping my squadron mates to recognize them, and linking/bookmarking your videos in our TS channels. Guys are watching, and making huge leaps in their game play. THANK YOU BROTHER!!!
Yup, I'm doing the same in Dav's Hope, topping mats, then going to the nearest material broker. Rinse and repeat. Boring, but guaranteed grade 5 mats. Same with Encoded and Raw mats ( Jameson's crash site and the Anaconda crash, not the Bug Killer ). Right now, I have at least 50 of each and a lot more a lesser grade mats. Took me about 3-4 evenings.
Once again informative. I greatly appreciate your work and know it takes a lot of time to pull together thanks Prof
Thanks mate- getting a hold of engineering materials is such a huge pain in the arse, it really helps knowing where we can get the most valuable ones.
Good to have you here, Commander! Keep up your amazing work. Really enjoying it! Thanks.
I posted a pretty large Reddit thread exploring this, and I came to the same conclusion. For Very Common to Rare material, just farm Dav's Hope and trade for what you need. For Very Rare materials it was best to just pick four or five high population systems close to each other, and bounce between them. The one thing I'll add is when in doubt, do high population imperial systems, because if you get an Imperial Shielding HGE, it drops *all* Imperial Shieldings, unlike in Federation space where Core Dynamics Composites are mixed with Proprietary Composites.
And Pharmaceutical Isolators are always used as the example of one that's really hard to get. You only need 10 at most for a ship (G5 FSD), so either go to Dav's Hope until you get 60 CMs, or hunt HGEs and cross-trade 60 materials, which will most likely happen faster than you can even find an Outbreak HGE that actually drops the PIs.
agreed, but I've never been able to find a single pharma Iso in Outbreak systems.....
@@atlblackreign5411 I did once. I wasn't actually looking for Outbreaks, either. I was just in Imperial Space hoping for Imperial Shielding, and getting other stuff. One system had an outbreak faction, and actually dropped PIs (when I didn't need them, LOL).
Hey man. Just found your channel today and you're definitely putting out quality concise content!
One tip I would have for anyone who doesn't feel like doing the rng-lucky-ducky method. (I understand it is also viable):
Go to Dav's Point, farm exquisite focus crystals for material trade (quite a decent drop rate) for 1-2 hours. I got 50. That is enough for about 8 pharmaceutical isolaters. Thanks for the content mate!
Military supercapacitors are also used in some gatling gun mods. The only annoying part of materials trading for me is that the interface often gets into some kind of loop that ignores all input and requires exiting to main menu to escape from.
This is perfect timing. I'm looking for them and just watched your previous (now outdated) video on the exploit. Thanks a lot.
Same here!
BTW. After collecting materials in HGE if to exit the game (exit to the desktop) and go to the game again ( I did it in solo ) and go to sc HGE respawns behind. Checked it few minutes ago.
Your spreadsheet is the most helpful thing. Thank You!
Thank you so much for this.
Thanks man! Good vid!
Military Supercapacitors are extremely difficult to get at present.
they can fuck off now.
Thank you for all you do for the ED Community!
Nice job as always!! You have the best (informative) videos out there! Anybody notice the Piracy of low temp diamonds feels a lot harder since the last patch? Still can do it but it but was a pain trying to find a black market that pays what it was going for before the patch. Was doing 865 to 1 million now 470 is the best I can find.
4:25
"Outbreak systems are scarce, there aren't many around"
I hear Sol has a pretty decent one to farm
Bruh
@@mikethespike056 😇
Thank you for this video guide, very useful. Excellent job sir.
My January 2022 Experience:
I was able to farm the same HGE for the same material if I EXIT TO DESKTOP (which I think Yamiks mentioned in a video). Details:
* I'm playing PC/Steam, Horizons only, v3.8.403
* This only works for the duration of the HGE you first find.
* After collecting the last material at a site, stay out of supercruise and exit to desktop.
* Restart the game and continue.
* Enter supercruise and honk the system. Check your Navigation Panel and the closest thing to you should be an "Unidentified Signal Source." That should be the same HGE with the same materials, though in different quantities.
* I've seen a lot of different information about what kind of systems to go looking in. My best (only) luck was in Federal / Election / population > 1 million. I found Core Dynamics Composites, Proprietary Composites, Proto Heat Radiators, Proto Light Alloys, & Proto Radiolic Alloys there. That may all just be RNG, but that was my experience.
o7
you got a link of the video
first of all i like to say i love your videos i got really good information from your videos,about this guide it is a bit outdated and this is what i recommend you hardly find any high emissions other then in boom so this is what i am doing so far with your full spectrum system scanner take your bar all the way to the left and scan for high grade emissions some times i find 7 in 1 system sometimes you can get 7 to 10 in 1 hour easily, they are 4 materials there 2 g5 and 2 g4 mostly photo heat radiators i recommend trading those for what you need it should only take a few hours depends how much you need.also sometimes you find war systems within boom so youll find other mats it is working great for me.
THANKYOU THANKYOU THANKYOU this is a huge time saver you sir are a scholar and a gentleman
It's not really...5 out of 14 boom, war, Civil war systems had a USS High Grade. Edit: Oh when they did they were 24,000 Ls or more away, in dif directions with 12-14 mins left on the timer...I got em both but I was still pissed.
O7 CMDR ! Thank you so much for sharing all your knowledge, this is once again very usefull ! And Thank's for this Excel file which is very clear ! Keep on playing, take care of you and Mister bunny and Fly safe ;-)
The nerf was quick on this one glad i used it when available.thanks as always.
Very helpful video, thank you. All this would not be such a problem if the BGS would spawn all states. There are tens of thousands of populated systems yet almost all of them are in Boom or War, not much else right now. Previously we could find any state and it even made the hunt for materials more varied since we could bounce around the bubble, often getting to new areas. Thankfully I'm done with engineering for the time being, and hopefully I won't need to engineer anything for a long time, or at least until the new BGS works itself out.
Perfect timing because I'm planning on g5 materials gathering tomorrow. With the bgs reset things are still a little wonky. If I may suggest doing a tutorial video on EDengineer. The shopping list will let you know what mats you can trade safely against other pinned blueprints. As not to trade away something that you need for another blueprint.
Thanks. Super helpful.
very helpful, thanks
Thanks very useful! I have been guessing at times when i have to trade materials that i need. Also can you do a tutorial for keybinding the new functions for exploration and mining modes? Thx
All I can say is I'm so glad I saw your previous video while preparing for Distant Worlds 2 and while the 3.3.0.2 patch was still on the drawing board. It made a big difference and so did mind numbing visits to Dav's Hope. Thanks for all your guides.
I'm losing interest in this game, the grind is getting monotonous. The Devs keep nerfing everything. I already have a full time job, everything else about ED I love.
Really appreciate that you update your videos. So much of this game is outdated its great to not be left in the dark
O7
Thanks for the video
August 2022, 'Quit to Desktop' and then join back will let respawn the HGSS again.
From experience it seems once a Signal Source is depleted another USS will spawn in the system, which may be a High Grade. So before jumping to a new system double check with the scanner to see what the new USS is. Also noticed in a wing we are getting a different list of available Signal Sources in the same system, of which i was under the impression it was suppose to be universal for all players. Maybe that was changed also with the nerf.
I remember seeing on a stream Ed & Will saying they didnt want to waste out time with certain things!
I look at this and I'm like 'Say what now guys'
HGEs have become painfully rare, and almost always give something I’m not looking for. I visited a high population Outbreak system a few times, only saw an HGE once, and all it had were Military Grade Alloys. And an entire evening of visiting high security/high population Boom/Independent systems gave me only 12 Proto Radiolic Alloys (and lots of Military Grade Alloys).
Thanks for this, really helpful information. o7 CMDR
Passenger mission at Robigo is a better way to farm G5 manufactured materials, at least for me.
You can still farm the same HGE over and over if you exit to desktop instead of to the menu each time :)
It's a pain yes, but still faster
@@shawngoldsworthy9079 Does it still work now? only just returned to ED from a long hiatus, can't get the respawn to work? have found plenty of fresh ones in the Boom systems around Borann though
@@martinhill7304 still works
I've actually found a few systems in outbreak using this method but for some reason around 90% of them had compromised nav beacons and everyone of those had 0 HGE's is this normal . If so I will avoid these in the future ?
this video is outdated as you can still frontier flip HGE's by going to the desktop then coming back in. Its a little lower but still viable
Good video, but there’s a couple of flaws in your calculation of G5 mats/hour using cross-trading:
1) these high grade emissions love to spawn 35KLs away from each other, not to mention you can only farm 1 or 2 of them before you have to switch systems, and some systems have none at all. All this yo-yo-ing takes a lot of time.
2) Yes, you can farm any G5 material, but if you get random ones each time, that again decreases your yield, because you need 6 of 1 specific type to cross trade so getting 3 of each different kind yields 0 in cross-trade. (You can’t combine 6 of different mats to get 1, sadly)
Again, your vids are much appreciated
was looking for Pharmaceutical isolators (to me) it seems that high grade emissions don't seem to spawn in outbreak systems anymore. went back and forth between 12 different independent systems today and never had a high grade spawn (zero)
playing in Horizons, I've just been farming HGE locations in WAR systems, have so far only found Military Grade Alloys, no supercapacitors that I'm actually after. Anyway, point being the Farm HGE, quit to desktop, relog, loop still works (in horizons). not exhaustive nor scientifically tested, but that's todays experience :)
Can confirm working in Odyssey too.
Great vid Astro as usual, but since 3.3 dropped i haven't come across one high grade uss while just scanning regular systems, but then i haven't been looking for them specially. I hadn't released fdev had used the nerf hammer again which is a shame, it seems they just don't want us to enjoy this game without the fucking grind.
Did u say you can isolators in outbreak ?
I seem to get imperial shielding or core dynamic components really quickly since all these require is empire or federation allegiance. So focus farming in fed or imp systems and avoid Indy and alliance.
whats with the bar on your insert?
Hi, just started hunting for Improvised Components, to up my G4 6A shield generator to G5. I've been to two systems so far, both Civil Unrest, and have only seen Military Grade Alloys. Definitely not War or Civil Wars states, eg. BD-10 5238 is at Civil Unrest yet spawns Military Grade Alloys. I've spent a couple of hours yesterday evening searching in deep space, scan the local nav beacon. No joy. Am I just not being patient enough?
Nice! Can you do one for data?
I never used the exploit - I simply went to high population low-security systems, took the time to full scan all the signals using the FSS, and then immediately went after the HGEs and Encoded emission data with collector limpets. Change systems, rinse and repeat. This paid off during my month of engineering my new explorer Phantom Krait, but I had to re-fit and re-engineer my Anaconda once I wanted to do the mining CG on DW2. I'm pretty happy with the outcome, even though the material traders totally rip you off. I still have a lot of spare mats and data.
What I have found is that you can respawn the high grade emissions by logging out to main menu, but they will only respawn while their timer is active, so you have a limited time to farm them, at this point i am just relieved that this is still in the game.
Tried joining the discord but the link is invalid. Does this still work in Odyssey 4.0?
FYI you can stil farm he same signal repeatedly... Not through return to menu tho
Which is the best mining ship?
literally farming grade 5 mats now.
just a quick question to all posters here, is it worth getting a faster ship with obvious good jump range like and Imperial Eagle or Courier to pick up High Grade materials as there is a time limit to them. Obviously cargo capacity will be limited for limpets, would it be faster to farm ?
No, all ships go at the same speed/acceleration in supercruise, the only difference is the agility (turning rate). Go with your favorite ship, and good luck.
more infos about supercruise elite-dangerous.fandom.com/wiki/Supercruise
If you scan the nav beacon all USS are revealed?? I didn't know that
Also put your fuel on eco so you pass through every system. You can farm this for days, the only thing that stops you is running out of limpets.
Does all this still apply in 2021? Boom states for high grades?
You can find HGE, take everything there is, kill the application, log in and get into supercruise and the HGE is there again, ready to be farmed.
I am sure you know of this. Do you think this is a bannable offense?
This is grey area, i guess it falls in the same category as combat logging
@@DowntoEarthAstronomy So I take you would definitely not recommended it? Combat logging ruins pvp.
This doesnt hurt anyone, well, grey area indeed.
Well since there have been no official statement on the matter from Fdev i guess it's up to people if they will use it or not. You could also argue that it's the same as board hopping, but then again killing the application is taking it one step further.
@@DowntoEarthAstronomy Cmndr Exegious said he asked fdev and they said it was not against terms of service
Pelican!
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edit... all the independent systems were in "outbreak"
Hi commanders :)
sorry for this noobie-question(s) regarding the materials that are farmed here: are they counted as cargo?
What happens to the collectd materials if i switch ships?
No they dont count as cargo, they have a separate storage area. You keep the material with you when you switch ship
@@DowntoEarthAstronomy cool, thanks for the reply :)
Military grade alloys are super hard to get been to civil war/war systems no high grades spawn
Once I'm back from distant worlds this will be useful!
High grade farming is even worse than before 3.3 now great job fdev also I've been trading exquisite focus crystals and biotech conduits from assassination missions
estoy haciendo esto pero no hay caso es extremadamente dificil que te salga una de estas señales
Why can't engineers double up as material traders or at least have a trader at their base?
yea, I saw it yesterday, I entered a high grade, when I left it was't there anymore...
I tried doing it on Xbox One and logging out and in doesn't work
Which HOTAS did you end up with?
I still use my X56 not the best HOTAS you can get, and many people have both software and hardware issues. I have been able to work around the problems i have but again not the best user experience
I have been to Dav’s and working still...
isn't that video outdated as I still can redo the HGE's?
What am I doing wrong? I've visited over 15 systems in Outbreak (mostly Alliance and Independent but like three Fed) and after scanning the nav beacons I have found exactly zero signal sources of any kind. No high grade, degraded, or encoded emissions. I've made sure my filters are correct and a few of these systems have been super highly populated. No idea what the problem is.
After scanning the Nav Beacon, jump into supercruise. THEN look at your list and the emissions will begin to show up. They do not show up unless you are in supercruise.
@@angered1337 Ha, I felt like it was something simple like that. Thank you so much!
i think you should touch on this subject again. if you havent already.
What about davs hope? Is that still a thing?
very much so, but only for grade 2, 3, and 4 mats
One thing is clear. The system is now harder to collect than it was before the last big update at the end of last year. And it was too hard then. Engineering is broken.
They don't want new folks catching up with the older folks....keeps us in game for longer hours.
Definitely harder to get g5 mats, but engineering is certainly not broken. I don't like it, but I get what FD is trying to: Make G5 mats and upgrades rare and difficult.
ATL BlackReign ... I don't mind rare and difficult, its part of the game. Unfortunately some mats are only available in certain states, which are just not available, making some engineering impossible, or "broken. Fortunately I'm away on DW2 so I'm hoping it will be fixed before I get back ...
Regards
CTF
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*sigh*
Thank you... just frustrated.
Why would you cross trade g5 at a rate of 6:1? Farm chemical manipulators (g4) and trade up at the same rate. It's much easier to find g4. I just farm NPC's at a nav beacon in anarchy. It's faster and less boring than dav's hope runs
That is a good point actually, farm the gr4 for that particular gr5.
I guess his take would be if he spent that same time getting only gr5's he will have more gr5's and can trade down for anything else he needed.
Davs is still strong lol....
If you can get 60 chemical manipulators per hour then sure that would work too.
Personally I can do that reliably. However I can get 60 random grade 5 every hour. So that works better for me.
thats a good idea. elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Material_Trader
I wonder why they nefted it?
it wuznt grindy enuf 🤔 ...Elite Grinderous
Just been chasing improvised components in civil unrest system, flying out far away is useless, it's empty out there.
I obtained the best results by :
Fly into the system.
Scan the nav beacon AND then check signal sources with FSS scanner.
Pick up high grade emissions material. You may want to check the encoded emissions as well as you can always use traders to convert to what you need.
There may not be any USS high grade popping up every time.
They were never out more than 5-6Kls from the nav beacon.
Check for new signal sources just in case a new one appeared.
Fly out of system to nearby system, and back in and repeat.
When it gets so bad you HAVE to do 6/1 crossraping, that is a fail
Great! Anyone on ps4 and willing to wing up for all kinds of fun?
So the most boring part of the game, material collection, is now back to its ridiculous level of grind again.
Fuck that.
As much as I want to keep playing, frontier keep making it more and more time consuming.
Small things, like being forced to delete loads of guardian tech due to chronic lack of space, only for them to release blueprints that need it all a month later. Changing all the engineering meaning all the g5 I had already done was basically pointless and needed to be done again.
Redoing stuff that I've already done is fucking infuriating!!!
Been playing the game for something like 70 fucking days and it feels like it will take another 70 of just killing elite ships to get that final fucking 20% rank to elite..........
Don't get me started on the first mapped bullshit.
First off let me say how you feel is how you feel. You have every right to that opinion and choose to continue playing or not.
That being said, I think you may have the wrong frame of mind on gameplay loops.
On the surface it seems almost everyone is suggesting to make things "easier". I am not saying Frontier has hit the mark on that but the problem with ELITE is people not seeing how to play the game.
Elite is a very open game, it gives you the impression that you can do whatever you want. However I don't think that is the loop that has emerged. Outside of just exploring forever, farming for x hours, doing what you like for x hours. That is the loop, I think.
Here's an example. Farm your butt off to engineer a build you want to do. Then you take that engineered ship and fight/do missions for so many hours, then make changes to the build =farming again. I think that is the loop more or less.
The other point I would make, is if things become too easy people do quit playing.
I played a lot of the Division for a long time. Once there were no more gear sets to get and no new gear I quit playing. I still log on and PvP sometimes but with nothing to grind for I don't play much at all.
I think the grind is the loop, break that up with what you "want" to do and it's not as bad.
That's just my thoughts though and how you feel is perfectly fine.
o7
@@kaboomgoo I get it bud. I have over 80 days played in elite, had it since the preview on Xbox, done everything there is to do, and I'm still playing these days!
The timed signal source was a way to get a single type of commodity, manufactured, a bit easier.
You still had to actually find a high grade source in the first place.
Then hope it had more than 5 mins on the clock.
It was one small quality of life improvement that they couldn't wait to patch out.
I don't mind grind, it's when they render my grind pointless, that it starts pissing me off.
I wouldn't mind so much if they had just updated all my engineered stuff to the equivalent, in the new system.
But no, that would have been too nice. 😂
I love this game, but the development is snail pace and frontiers idea of gameplay is generally just grind. The guardian stuff is the perfect example of that. Very cool little mini game, the first couple times....50 times?? 60 times, not so much.
This is where Frontier are getting it wrong imo.
Anyhoo, rant over lol, fly safe commander.
@@Weeji_420 o7
First mapped BS? Oh PLEASE do tell...
Literally go around trying to find Imperial Shielding for an hour in deep space and I find nothing. Fucking hate HGEs.
If I understand what I'm reading on various forums, Reddit etc. many players are giving up playing Elite Dangerous. The reason for ending play always seem to be the same, "too much grind" for what you're getting out of the game, or "better (more fun) games now on the market". Is FDEV trying kill off this game to offload huge server/development costs?.
Considering it was still in the top 50 of all games sold last year (excellent for a 5 year old game), I really doubt they are killing it off, especially seeing the work they put into chapter 4. Grind is what you make it. If you think of it as such or just do the one thing, then it may indeed get tiresome, if you mix it up, less so.
@@shugaroony Top 50!...LOL guess that's subjective to who's list you're looking at isn't it? (I just checked on Eurogamer, Ranker and Polygon and it wasn't listed for 2018, many sites don't even list it for 2017), this game will always have die hard players that'll defend it to the death......You're one of them. For the rest of us it's pretty much done. All Patchs/DLC's create short term "bumps".
I stopped playing because of the grind for almost 2 years but Chapter 4 brought me back. So far so good. Especially the mining is awesome. They've taken a few steps to reduce the grind. The credit grind doesn't exist anymore because you can easily make a ton of money mining or exploring. The engineering grind is somewhat reduced because you can get materials by doing missions.
@@GizmoMaltese LOL, ya and judging from this new video looks like FDEV is back to nurfing those "quick" low grind methods AGAIN! and after what only 3-4 weeks since Chapter 4 dropped?.....Wonder how many more days/weeks it'll be before those mining and exploration buffs are pooched out of your game?
Not a good method. Better to do passenger missions and get grade 5 as reward plus a lot of credits and it is no random shit
Yeah but you can't get all materials from passenger mission. And high grades still gives you more per hour.
I will check this, doing a test at Robigo ;)@@DowntoEarthAstronomy
@@Pootch17 @Down to Earth Astronomy, I just checked the Robigo run using a Conda with 10 passenger cabins. I was able to consistently get 100 Grade 5 materials per hour (and about 50 Grade 4), which I could cross trade for 16+ or so of any type. Hunting for high grade emissions proved very difficult and I was maybe getting 12 per hour. Perhaps it greatly depends on the systems you choose, but the Robigo run seems more reliable.
such riveting gameplay... creating your own ship can only be so fun. ED needs structured missions.
How is it that a game made 20 years ago, *Freespace 2* is more fun? That game realised that too much freedom makes a game boring. It needs structure.
lets play a game okay? you start.
don't know what to do? thats because all the freedom makes the game no fun.
The whole design philosophy of "set your own goals and rules" it what is killing ED and making it not go super mainstream.
its such a shame because it had all the puzzle pieces it needs to be a great game...
Airtroops 83 I don’t agree. Sure, FreeSpace, I-War, and X games have been great - and I love them. But Elite is somewhat different in purpose: open ended. And multiplayer game too, so story is much more difficult to incorporate.
Edit: I would like to have some personal/squadrons fleet & station building aspects from X games brought to ED. Currently managing your own resources is limited and difficult.
Sorry, but this is NOT a game anymore. This is objectively unpaid work.
Why did Frontier even bother nerfing your original method??? Surely it was doing no harm to anything else in the game??? They changed the USS finding system for the better but have made certain materials even more difficult than before. Again they've leapt on what's basically a QOL shortcut, but have left far worse issues untouched. Sometimes I just don't understand their choices there, if the system states were working properly we wouldn't have needed these little shortcuts D2EA pointed out. I hope this all gets sorted out as the new system is a huge improvement, but we need systems that we can fly to, to collect our needed materials.
Agreed, I'm some times also very confused about what's going on at Fdev. Many of the changes they did in 3.3 were really good and added a lot to the game (mining / exploration changes), but sometime they do something with just makes no sense to me.
I guess there is a lot going on behind the scene we don't know about
@@DowntoEarthAstronomy yeah 3.3 is incredible, which is why I'm not upset with Frontier. But they sure make some strange decisions haha!!! Thanks for keeping us all up to date with developments, we can all rely on you to find out all the hints and tips for every update!!!
Different design/tech guys working on different things. Some issues are easier to fix than others. It depends how much code has to be written/rewritten/tested by QA. If there are 10 issues that are on the to do list. One of them might take 3 months to fix, because a whole database, 3 scripts and links to those have to be rewritten. Another just might take 30min of coding to do, then off to QA. It's not just about what makes sens, it's also about impact, work hours and complexity of the issue. It seems you never worked in an agile or scrum developement environment, so you don't know what's going on. Look into it and all your questions will be answered without you ever needing to talk to a FD developer, it will all make more sense to you once you understand the basics of software development.
@@bpkdasbaum yeah, you've got a point. I know f@#$ all about game development. I didn't mean to sound negative as I'm incredibly happy with the update and loving the fact that Frontier have given Elite the time and effort it truly deserves. My faith in Frontier and Elite are fully restored and I was just a little puzzled by the nerf of something fairly innocent.
@@Optionvideo209 D2EA is most likely right, even though the situation right now sucks. The spawns of those high grade are probably linked to the background simulation. Once a new factor is introduced in such a system it takes time to propagate through the system. Might be also some more tweaking is required for them to be available in a proper amount. Who knows. But I doubt there is some "evil" dev sitting an laughing about your bad day. That's just not what humans do. In reality everybody is just doing their job an get through the day. Same as you. Shitty things just happen, nobody is out to get you.
I'm thinking Jamesons Crash or Bug Killer is faster.
Neither of them gives you manufactured materials.
Trading is a rip off.
Dav's Hope has been nerfed. nothing there anymore.
im not playing this game anymore. im not going to play a game that is so hard to get stupid stuff ive collected all my materials the normal way and never abused the system. why is is so much more difficul for normal people who want to play for fun not play to die.
Cross trading just sucks ass... worst rip-off in any game I've ever played.
Back to SWtoR...
Can you please stop making everything so public, that's how frontier knows what to nerf.
yeah, totally agree. although it is good that the people who couldn't take advantage of it before can now, but for a short time
This wont be nerfed, since it just follows game mechanics... System > NAV Beacon > HGE
ur guides are to long and to complex for new players mate if someone is going to watch ur guide for every material they need for 11 min its insane no hard feelings