Advanced Miners Guide : The Perfect Mining Spot
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Multiple iMU miners have come to the conclusion that reserve level does not matter for Core materials. We have successfully mined Void Opals in depleted reserves. They were found at the same apparent frequency as in Pristine reserves and produced the same amount of chunks.
ok. I got a higher % per chunk in pristine then i did in other areas, but that might be down to luck. it just seemed like natural conclusion so i didn't do a too extensive chunk % test after the initial results.
Seems it is RNG based if you find cores though. I jumped in to good opal hot spot 3 times. 2 of those 3 times I didn't find any cores after 20 minutes of searching. This was all the same ring as well same hotspot.
Same for me. I mine Opals in a low reserve ring for quite some time. There is no noticeable difference compared to a pristine ring i used to mine before. I spend about the same amount of time to fill my Python's 202 tons of cargo (192+10 in bins) regardless of reserve level of ring. It takes me about 2h - 2,5h.
@@DowntoEarthAstronomy
I don't even bother going for Hotspots. Had an Alexandrite Hotspot in an Ice Ring. But i didn't go there. Instead i went into the rocky part of the ring, and still found a lot of core materials. I probably was even faster than in the ice parts just cause fissures are easier to spot on rock astroids than on icy ones.
There is a massive huge gigantic enormous difference. Although major and pristine reserves are fairly close but those two are significantly better by a gigantenormous difference. If you aren't mining in major and pristine you doing it wrong.
If you have no luck then land in a different section of the opal zone or even try a different zone. You should be able to notice if it's completely untouched within 5 minutes of flying.
Was strugling with mining for a long period, never gave the time to search about things, but this video is full of tips that made me mine enough void opals to buy a new python! So thank you D2EA
You'll love the python.
Best ship i ever bought.
@@davecrupel2817 literally same she's my dedicated miner
@@onaniemaster3421Cant wait to get one soon. I’ve spent the majority of my piloting time exploring through the universe. I have almost enough saved up to buy one. Soon
By following your tips i have gone from being a low life delivery driver to a high paid miner.. you the man Dave
My technique is to use my mining Jumpaconda to fly out into thinly habitable space. It’s relatively easy to come across a system with pristine rings. Mine VO or CWD till you’re full, then Jumpaconda across to the best price. Maybe takes 20 mins more but you get a cartographic bonus!
Thanks for the vid Astro 🙏
Great video, as usual. Concerning the DSS, you said you need it at the very least to scan the rings. This being the case, I would also recommend keeping it aboard once you've found rings to mine. After selling my first load of VOs, I swapped mine out for another cargo rack. Upon returning to the same ring, I had no way of identifying the hot spot within the ring. So keep it. It's worth the small amount of cargo space it takes up.
Also, the market value at a station seems to be contingent upon the volume sold at that station, based upon my experience and what I've noticed using Inara. If I sell a 2-3 full loads at the same station, the market value drops sharply, so I don't think it has anything to do with BGS.
o7
You need to up date this as things have changed since EDO has come out or remove non correct videos.
one thing, you all show in these tutorials how to get mass amounts of minerals, metals ect ect.
I did my first core mining the other day and saw a station selling VO of 700K, i went to that station only to find that they will buy for 300k.
I was stumped why, then i was told in our ED group after showing some images off the EDDB and station prices, i was informed that the demand at the station was lower than what i had in my hold, so which lowered the price of my VO cargo if i was to sell them.
Was told to get the full price from the station, you need to have 25% or less than the demand.
EG: if station want 100 t you have to provide 25t or less to get the maximum price they offer.
Great video D2EA! These new mining mechanics coupled with the exploration tools only amplifies the need for a more robust and useful galaxy bookmarking system. It would be good to make notes in-game of what material hotspots exist in the systems I have scanned.
Again Dave, your information is so useful, many thanks for this.
To save yourself some flying around checking time you can also see belt mass on EDDB and skip some of the super small ones.
Now bounty hunting needs better pay you know one of the most dangerous professions in the game
gavin john Wardle the judicial system needs to be reworked, let’s hope this’ll be in a future update
@@dominic5386 Didnt they rework the fine system like less than a year ago?
Dude thank you so much this has been so helpful
i know this video was made awhile ago but it has helped me get all set up for my first mining trip! Thank you for your advice and recomendations!
I find it easier to simply fly around in a certain cluster and probe rings until you find something you like. It’s what I did and I currently have a system with a void opal hotspot within a void opal hotspot. Only issue is it’s 200ly from sol. Luckily I don’t mind making a 10 jump flight for an amazing mining spot. Along with that the system near it also has a really cool dual ring planet with a massive gap between the two.
This is such a good video. Thanks.
As always a very helpful video, thank you! 👍
man, i appreciate the detailed analysis and thorough explanations but it took you two minutes of talking to say
"how much translucent a ring is, shows how further apart the individual rocks are. It should be dense enough to have lots of rocks around you to scan but not so dense you can't navigate between them"
compare that to:
"when you look at the ring you can see they have different colors, like different bands, we have a slightly lighter band out here, then we have a very wide almost completely transparent band in here in the middle, and then all the way to the inner side we have a very very opaque band here. now the more opaque, the less transparent, the band is the closer the rocks will be packed together when we drop out, so in this case, because this ring is so transparent, that means that the distance between the rocks, when we drop out, is gonna be very great, it's gonna be very scarce, it's gonna be very much spread apart ,not making it easier for us to find anything, cause when you're running through the ring we're scanning less rocks at a time, we have to fly further in order to find a crackable (?) asteroid, so this might not be the best hotspot. That is the purpose of the video, finding the *best* hotspot. That would be a downside of this hotspot, it's in a very very spread out area where the rocks are far apart. To understand the way it works whenever the areas are spawned, when it's procedurally generating rocks as you fly through the belt, every time it spawns a rock it says there is a whatever pcnt chance the rock is going to be of the crackable (?) type and of course if we are scanning less rocks per second because they are further apart means we get less rolls of the dice to get one of those crackable asteroids of course if you're in an extremely high density area it can also be difficult because you're not gonna have as far a line of sight to actually see the rocks, they might be obscured by other rocks that are in the way making it them also difficult to find so finding something like a golden middle ground might be the best place to go i wouldn't be too concerned with a low density area if you have a very fast ship like a clipper because you can just quickly run through the belt and also if you have a if you decide to take a very big ship that's not very maneuverable maybe going to a high density area is not gonna be the best either because the rocks will be so clumped together that the chance you're gonna have a rock in the way when you blow it up (?) it's gonna interfere with your mining is bigger so that's why i would normally try to go with something kind of medium but probably because i use a clipper i would go choose something a little bit on the high density side but again it's really a preference you have to try and figure out what works for your ship build, but just know that the colors here they do have an effect on the density in the ring"
consider that this is easier on you, too, you won't get tired as quickly
i'm saying this with all the respect (took me about half an hour to transcribe it, still some words were hard to hear)
I managed to gather myself about 56mil plus a fully decked stock vulture before even thinking of mining so I wasn't starting off bad, I got myself another AspX for mining cos I couldn't quite get anything i thought was more defensible and agile for escaping wankers after me loot, but anyways, your video is smashing mate great advice. The only thing that doesn't sit right with me is that I tried your little sequence for setting the seismic charges and it doesn't quite seem to get it to the perfect level. I wonder if its cos I'm only using medium hardpoints for my seismic charges but otherwise I don't know. Got lucky and found myself a bunch of stuff made about 15mil and then went and blew myself up being careless with my time, blew myself up and it looked fucking awesome had a great laugh doing something I thought would be quite boring. Thank you for the video mate :)
Another great vid. Thank you
Very useful tutorial, thank you
If I want money, I go out in my type-9 with 668 cargo space and do some freelance trade. If I want to earn money and have fun I go mining. I’m sure that if I optimize things enough and start to get better at finding cores I’ll earn more from mining, but trading remains supreme for now.
This video is great for helping me buff up my mining game
A week ago, i wanted to learn how to do deep core mining after watching lote of videos on the subject, so i hit a random ice ring in the bubble with my retrofitted Cobra Mk3 - hit void opals immediately and i came out of my learning test run with +20 million in my cargo bay.
I learned later that this system was just 2 x 20 lightyears (2 jumps) away from a station buying Void opals for 1.6 million.
I read in other guides that things like Pristine doesn't matter for core mining
Thanks
Thanks for these tips and stuff
As always great vid! thanks for the info!!!!
btw, flashlight painite mining is just as good now, probably a lot better after the blaster nerf to core mining.
I've mined over 2 Billion CR of Cores now and it is all very random, I've mined in rings without hotspots and had just as much success and sometimes better than in actual hotspots.
Excellent explanation, thanks for this :)
I'd love a planet with an ice rink.
this is very useful, tnx!!
I've never just focused on void opals, I just grab whatever gets me over a 100,000 per ton and have made plenty of credits. I'll fill my hold in less than an hour most days and consistently make close to 10 million credits per trip in my cobra mkIII. Void opals are nice to find but sometimes I find grandiderite or low temp diamonds are everywhere and the difference doesn't seem all that huge if I can fill up my hold in half the time. I usually come back with multiple resources and if I calculate time spent I believe the credits average out eventually.
I found the System Ngaliba to be great, it has a station that buys Void Opals for 1.6 million each and it also has 2 Icy ring planets with major reserves. Best of all, it's close to Sol so new players can access it easily
It won't stay that way though. With how the BGS works, the more you sell there, the more the price will be affected. You can easily crash the market if too many people sell too much there.
o7 getting conda for next mining run thanks for the ring transparency tip 😎
Eddb got shut down, any other websites worth using?
Boy those prices were nice back then. Now in the low six figures for all minerals in 2022.
I am curious as to why people making tutorials about mining think that icy rings are the only ones with void opals. I find void opals in any ring type, so any idea why they say only icy rings?
Sadly almost every little pc of the information he's shared with all of us which is great, is that This is also unbelievable good information for pirates. Holy holy holy cow I'm glad I'm not a pirate but boy if I was!
Mange tak for hjælpen!
I finally got back to playing ED horizons and I've not had any single mineral sell for over 1 million. Alexandrite or Benitoite was the most lucrative for me, but any rare mineral over 100k I'll keep and dump the rest.
Thank you !!!
I don't put much faith in those traffic reports. Looked at it the other day for my home system. It said eight ships had been through in the past 24 hours... and none of my ships were on the list.
@downtoEarthAstronomy
Wouldn't it make sense for LTD's to be formed in colder, but high gravity areas? Say, a cooler star class, near a large gas giant, which is quite some distance from te star? Don't know about formations of VO's, but I find LTD's much easier, and still 1.2mmCR per. Does FD/ED go this far into location of such? I know they like to get very technical... And, why else would they include things like "Spectral Class" to find such?
Does a "double" or "triple" overlay area Really improve odds? I see some iMU (presumably Miners Union?) stating "even depleted areas produce the same rate".
Also see a lot about shape of asteroids - ur thoughts?
Honestly I don’t even bother with void opals anymore low temp diamonds are worth way more. And I have a good hotspot one jump from my home system
so my only question after finding out stuff on my own and getting answers for stuff i didnt know from your videos and got wierd or unreliable info in open - i have one last burning question:
is it okay for me to totaly milk a Corerock? like Lasersurficemine him first, blast the kristaline surfice chunks, deepdrill the deposits and then blast it appart for the juicy rest? or is that while fun, just a waste of my time?
Thank you Sir.
They should nerf this. Maybe make that void opals are worth 1/4 from now. They still wouldn't be useless but not so fucking op. U can start the game is first time and literally buy the most expensive ships after a day and upgrade all of them. That's just bs. 1/4 probably isn't even enough. Maybe 1/10. So you get around 10mil instead of 100mil per hour.
the excitement while watching this video and following along was as great
as my disappointment when checking 7 asteroids for void opals in a void opal hotspot on a pristine ring in an unpopulated system without stations... and every one of them had oxygen, something monoxide and water. No void opals tho... not **one**. 😂
Void opal prices ia dropped very hard and not so profitable anymore.
Also this video with the prices are old and out dated
@@0108daniel i know, painite and low temp diamonds are better, but i followed along with void opals so that i would not get confused
@@0108daniel what do you mean? Prices are just as high as they have always been.
Do the depleted hotspots reset after a certain time frame like at the start of a new week or are they done forever once they're used up?
Hi D2EA - quick question - i play ED on PS4 and was wondering if the EDDB.io site is linked to PS4 data as well as PC version of the game? I've just upgraded to your non-engineered Python build too btw
Unfortunately some of this is outdated now as inara's interface has changed. Can't figure out how to find the best sell
Go to best imports.
I guess Asteroid belts do reset but I would like to know when or how often, thanks.
i think its 2 hours
Spent over two weeks trying to find this stuff and only got a couple of ton what the hell is this mining really a pay out ?even used eedb for systems and basically giving up
Yeah mining is trash, bounty hunting is the way to go
eddb not working any more, update video 👍👍
Am I the only one having problems finding rings to mine?
3hrs = 225 million -- 72hrs = Fleet carrier
dang these tutorials make the game almost too easy. I started playing last thursday and already have enough money to buy anaconda and it took so long only because I was playing with idea of getting orca so I grinded permit into Aithos system and got myself a guardian FSD booster.
I know a very bad offender for supercruise distance - 57 Zeta Serpentis, 400000 flippin lightseconds to get to the planets...
I'm being lazy, I don't even leave my home system...I have one void opal and many benitoite hotspots, and it's the benitoite that's the real moneymaker for me. It sells for 700k per unit in my home station, and it doesn't take too long to fill up my Challenger mining ship. Pirates? No worries, I still have a decent combat loadout.
Lol I too mine in Challenger xD I went for the deep space mining tho cuz it's more appealing to me... just to notice that I forgot to equip Prospector controller 1500 Ly away from my home station xD
I’ve been struggling the last few trips, even in void opals hot spots I seem to only find cores of the other minerals, it’s very odd. At I just getting unlucky?
What website is that of 00:49 ?
What page is he using?
edtools . ddns . net
and inara . cz
is that a bug or why can't i move my mouse in the surface scanner !? do you have to adjust something first?
o7 Dave, how about talking about how to deal with pirates...
play solo, they spawn only when you enter into the ring, if your gargo is empty they go away and you can make your job. If you play with friends (private group) be aware if your friend enter into the ring another group of pirates spawn with him. I personnaly have some shied and beam lasers to kick them in case of I have to quit the game and relog later. When you load the game there is a chance some pirates are spawning with you. If they are too strong for me I quit or run away (supercruise) and enter in the ring again. More often pirates are 2-3 weak ships. But if you are very weak or armless, just enter into the zone with empty cargo, wait for pirate scan, let them go away and mine all you want in one session. Next just go to sell your precious cargo as fast as you can, avoid fsd interdictor or submit immediatly, boost and supercruise as soon as possible and continue. I suggest you to consider nerver mine opals in open if you don't want to be griefed by some assholes.
I am not english native speaker, grammar is certainly bad but I am sure you understood what I wrote.
Do you know if horizons and oddesy affect each other's markets? eddb has been really far off on their prices lately and I'm wondering if that may be why
If you play legecy horizon then the market will be separat.
Live horizon and odyssey should have the same market.
@@DowntoEarthAstronomy is there a tool that still works with legacy? I'm on console and don't have an option
I think the whole these will be mined out by players statement is suspect, just the hotspots alone are huge areas (in excess of hundreds of millions of km2) I have mined 3bn in void opals and found a core deposit every 100kms or so...there is no way these could all be mined....FDEV will have some slider and when they decide the party is over boom...to think there is some bgs element to the depletion is naive. I bet money they’ve already started moving the slider
Yeah, they'll shut it off once it hits a predetermined amount.
I followed this guide and raised 250 million credits in one afternoon
Anywhere there's no one else but you and all void opals and low temp diamond
Cool but what's the name of the application you used?
edtools . ddns . net
and inara . cz
Wait wait wait. So this video's suggestion is to look into this TH-camr's brain to know things like "void opals are in icy rings"?
What’s the website he’s on at the beginning ??
edtools . ddns . net
and inara . cz
I play on PS4 and for some reason low temp diamonds seem to be worth almost double what I can get for void opals. Is this something that happens depending on various markets? I don't mind mining diamonds, I was just under the impression void opals were the most valuable by a fairly wide margin. Thanks in advance for any info on this.
Edit: Theres a new station buying void opals for over 1 mil. But as of now it's the only one as far as I can see on inara. Before that, the best void opal price was only 750k.
Also, on eddb.io I cant seem to get more than 5 results when looking for systems with rings. I'm so confused.
do you think a single LTD hotspot might be better than the tripple in boran??
No
@@DowntoEarthAstronomy but in boran literally everybody is mining? so why should i look for systems with less traffic?
I see no logic to go mining and pick the spot where the mineral cost is highest. You go where you can get truck loads of minerals. Don't you. Also if the price stays high there that probably means there is not that much of that particular mineral around.
sherro 4 your welcome
is it just me or does this chad sound danish
What ship is this? I noticed that it went as high as 500 for its speed!
Imperial Clipper
Sadly the eddb limits you to 25 ls jumps max now.
So its useless
multi-abrasion blaster 'bug' still viable?
Nope
Whats the website called?
edtools . ddns . net
and inara . cz
Taking my corvette out for a mining run for kicks and giggles...
I love this game to death but I'm so ready to give up on it. Constant internet crashes. Spend 45 mins finding a void opal spot then another 20 mins to actually find a void opal core then get kicked off of their thier damn servers the moment you blow the thing up. I swear every time I get close to doing this shit something goes wrong.I've never been so pissed at a video game in my life man
whats is the name os this frist site he used ?
inara.cz/
People using the 4x Abrasion Blaster trick? AspX
you mean 5 blasters on aspX :-D
It's been fixed
Doesn't work anymore
THIS GUIDE! Plus looking for this image help A LOT: i.imgur.com/K13BbcE.jpg For a week I was getting crap and killed. Then I followed this video guide and looked for this image. This even I got almost 15 million credits. This is my first time making that much!
at 2:00 what software are you using to check everything?
i use inara. (inara.cz/galaxy/)
Please link Playlist in the description. It's not showing up for me
yeah and make sure you dont need a permission to get into the system you want to sell your stuff. I recently had 80 tons of void opals in my ship only to find out that both stations that had a demand for void opals required me to get a permission (i didnt even know such a thing exists). I was boiling and decided to sell of the 14 tons of diamonds and just hope i get a buyer the next day.
When selling my diamonds, though i found out that the station would also take my void opals although they had no demand for it. Turns out they dont need to have a demand to buy your stuff. It only needs to be listed (valuable lesson i learned there). Up until then i would only go for void opals if i had goodpaying stations within a reasonable distance that also would have a good demand. Turns out that was wasted effort XD
Just because they'll take your VOs doesn't necessarily make it worth it. If they're only paying you 600k/ton, it's worth it to find another station paying 1.5-1.6 mil/ton. Otherwise, you could be putting in 3x the effort mining (which is the time consuming part of the process) to get the same payout. Use Inara to find the best sell rates within your range. It will also tell you if it's a permit locked system before you jump there. o7
@@CMDR.Gonzo.von.Richthofen Yeah. I totally sold them for 600k, knowing i could get 1,6k for em. Dude. Do you seriously think i am that stupid?
Never seen something else being worth more than VOs. If i would i would obviously go for the other commodity.... needless to say but "special" ppl get special service.
You' re welcome!
Didn't think you were stupid, but when you said that you had never heard of needing permission to get into certain systems, it sounded like you might be a new player. Just trying to help out, but I guess you know it all, so fuck off.
o7
@@CMDR.Gonzo.von.Richthofen I AM a new player and i take any help i can get, gladly but if you start to explain things from the standpoint of a superior-godlike-creature talking down to an amoba you shouldnt wonder if ppl get pissed.
"Up until then i would only go for void opals if i had goodpaying stations within a reasonable distance that also would have a good demand." - clearly i used Inara so your comment boils down to: "Dude. You know 600k is less than 1,5 million." And you are telling me you didnt think i was stupid?
How did you get to that list ?
Beaut
Hi all,
I just lost my anaconda in a fight and my fsd was full engineered.
Do I loose my engineer mods with the ship now in bits ?
Also can I upgrade everything on one ship with all different engineers ? Or is it on upgrade per ship
If you have enough for the rebuy, then the ship will be restored exactly as it was before being destroyed. If not, then you are hosed.
Jared Prazen yeah I have 1 billion lol but I’ve only just started using engineers and wasn’t sure if it stayed on ship after rebuild
@@someone7481 Engineers upgrade your systems, so you can swap those around your ships. They don't upgrade ship.
What is the first website he uses?
what tool is that?
Good vid but the list has changed over the year...
I like your guides and videos, but you should try to shorten them. There is too much bla bla
for me as new player its actually better to have more information :-)
I was searching in habitable areas in hotspots the resources that were described as have been in that hotspot... used 50 probes... nothing. So I followed advice - go out of the habitable area. I went around 1000 LY... same situation. I have used around 70 probes. I found a few valuable resources (worth together 1 mln) after 4 hours! I fed up this game. No longer playing - boring and do not have time!
It’s a damn video game for f sake
Void opals have dropped in value. Basically they are slightly worth more than anything else you find in the cores. I went out last week and only 1 station was selling them for that 1.6 mil. Everywhere else was 700k. It didn't matter really. I hit like 6 cores and 2 were opals the others 4 were not. Still made 65 mil on that 1 run. It got me my python and used some of the modules from my mining krait mkII
Parabola
Wrong. There are plenty of stations buying them for 1.6M still.
Can you just explain me, cant figure how to properly crack the asteroid w/o low strength fissures?
How much charge of rocket i need to crack asteroid with high strength fissures? Do i need to use avarage strength?
I saw your video about how to crack asteroid, but only understand that thing with low strength fissures. Thank you.
If you have no low streangth just use high in the average. Then then follow the same method from there
Wasted time
Don't bother, the price of void opals and painite just got nerfe....err, I mean, "suffered a market crash"
The market changes dynamically with BGS changes. just find another station to sell at.