As of 27/1/23 For people playing on Horizons 4.0 or Odyssey and are doing raw material gathering. Be aware that the shards are kind of all over the planet, rather than in small groupings like in previous versions of Elite. They appear in a "heatmap" type thing. You land your ship in the general area of the shard section and use the radar on your SRV to find them. You plain don't get the signal sources to home in on in Horizons 4.0 or Odyssey like you could in Horizons 3.8. Polonium/HIP 36601 C1A -57.54° 126.95° Technetium/HIP 36001 C5A 3.55 111.54 Tellurium/HIP 36601 C3B -65.2° 43.6° -61.4° 35.5° Yttrium/Outotz LS-K D8-3 B5A -2.0° 73.33° Antimony/Outotz LS-K D8-3 B5C -1.70° 22.22°.
Very helpful thanks. I just spent all day jumping my carrier over to these systems i used years ago and was pissed to find no signals lol. Good to know it wasnt for nothin!
NOTE on High Grade Emission Method: As I've had to clarify this a number of times you do not just exit to main menu, you must EXIT TO DESKTOP. If you just exit to main menu the HGE won't respawn, if you exit to desktop it will. I also opened a ticket with support to confirm that it is not a violation of the ToS, etc. to exit the game and restart to get materials to respawn and they confirmed it is not. So if you're worried this is an exploit according to those that make the rules you're good to go. Also remember that signal sources have a timer on them and if that expires while you're out of game (as time keeps on tickin', tickin', tickin') then it won't be there when you get back into supercruise.
@@KalelPak123 Well you can do it in VR, you'll just be jumping in and out of game in VR which is annoying so yeah, I do all my farming like this outside of VR so I can watch a movie, TV, etc while I "work"
So, since I'm on Xbox I have to exit to home screen and then quit out of the program? I was trying the HGE technique outlined in your video and was quite frustrated as the nearest USS was usually 750-900 ls away and often degraded. Thought I would check the comments and see if I was doing it wrong.
Seems you're getting the entire point of the channel. I actually started it after needing one piece of information from another creators channel and I had to wade through over 30 minutes of "hey TH-cam, okay, uh let's see, oh yeah - be sure to like, comment and subscribe, that really helps out the channel, uh yeah so today we're gonna head to... oh, let's figure out a ship. Uh....." and I wanted to shoot myself.
@@Exigeous Seriously. Your content is very condensed. I like the "not wasting time"-Approach. This confirms you do not receive funding from FDev, for obvious reasons. Thank you for making these videos!
@@Exigeous I just read this comment and have been watching your videos and did exactly that cause your comment reminded me LOL. I like the content keep up the good work.
That little tip to zero your throttle and boost to engage FSD made SUCH a difference. I went from maybe 4 repetitions of a site before it expired to a dozen or more.
This video is more important than ever. FDev recently acknowledged the mass amount of players relog farming mats and knowing FDev, theyll only be looking at how it is done and not why. Material grinding isnt fun in the slightest and incredibly slow, which all but forces anyone who takes engineering seriously to use such methods. Use it while you can.
@@olegmakogon7447 no they don’t. I just returned with a trillion credits worth of void opals in my carrier and wanted to start buying all ships fully engineered but when I came todo the third method the signal sources disappear after restarting.
high grade emissions for imperial shielding is cake - fly a loop around the hi-pop major systems - Achenar, Kamadhenu, Cubeo to name a few in Cubeo I got 8 different HGE to spawn past that the rest of this video works
@@someone7481 it does still work but you need to find the signal again. After you relog and get into supercruise, run a d-scan or recalibrate sensors in FSS and the signal will pop up behind you.
@@casliquid nope, tried this and signal had gone. Doesn’t matter, Ive finally maxed out my cutter and corvettes so I think I’m done engineering. To be honest the games going little stale,
Thank you for this guide, after spending many many hours just trying to play the game regularly to get all of these resources and making little headway to engineer even one ship, this has enabled me to get everything I need to outfit all the key vessels in my fleet. I can get back to playing the game rather than scouring empty planets for scraps of ore and stop breaking the flow of pirate hunting with having to scoop the battlefield after every kill. I really appreciate the concise collection of information you've presented here.
Just ran into this particular video because I've been grinding for 2 days looking for some freaking components to max out my level 5 FSD. I have watched many of your videos and they help out immensely. Your straight to the point delivery is refreshing. You put out some great content my friend. Happy to be a sub, and thankful for your help. Also what I like about your channel is that you engage with your viewers in the comments section. Nothing will turn me away from a channel faster than seeing a million questions or comments with not a single response. Many creators need a good lesson from you. o7
NOTE for CONSOLE Players: As I don't own a PS4 or Xbox I couldn't test this but viewers have reported that the HGE method here works but you must fully close the game and return to the dashboard, not just switch out of the game or exit to main menu. As I can't verify this if someone from Xbox and PS4 could confirm for us that would be great.
You are correct sir. A CMDR must do what's called a "dashboard log," meaning they close out of the game without logging out and return to the dashboard. From there, logging back in and reentering the HGE takes about 3.5 mins.
Honestly I've been bouncing through guides and yours is the most efficient, least painful and more to the point. Thank you for being a no-nonsense commander. You deserve my sub, sir. O7
I've learned more since finding your channel in a few days than I have in my entire time on ED (Since a few months before Odyssey's release). The straight to the point, and detailed way you present information is not only informative, but genuinely easy to swallow. You have made engineering and numerous mechanics of this game go from intimidating and haunting for me, to genuinely nothing more than another thing to do. I never engineered because it was daunting, but now im working on a few ships and engineering them already AND teaching my fiance what I've learned using your videos. You've made the vast emptiness of space a little less daunting for TWO CMDRs. Thank you, so much.
You are a godsend. Just did my first engineered FSD and I regret not doing this sooner, I was worried about the material grind but this made it so much easier. Gonna be coming back to this whenever I need to do some more engineering always. o7
@@Exigeous Yeah gonna gather Materials until full, unlocking all engineers is the next step in my plan haha. Got my phantom to 50 range already. Im having way too much fun with this game :)
Not gonna lie, fully engineered my corvette without using any of these methods and man.. this changes everything. Wish I would have known all of this a year or more ago. Fantastic video, I think I'll sub.
@@Exigeous I know that feeling. I do not have a single fully engineered ship because of how ridiculous the grind is. I wonder if frontier has taken notice to how many loopholes people have found to their system of "gameplay" and may consider redesigning it.
As of 3/19/2024, self-destructing to save the trip back to the material trader after harvesting Jameson's crash site no longer takes you back to the material trader, and instead takes you back to the nearest Fleet Carrier, assuming there are some closer to you than the station (there is, they're everywhere). Source: I just self destructed to save myself the trip and it cost me rebuy and didn't save me any time at all.
Confirmed. Takes about 30 minutes now to do the round trip. My math says you need about 14 hours to get all Grade 5 materials to 100. Then however long it takes for all the rest. I was really hoping for a faster way. 14 hours!
I just can't stress out how RIDICULOUS the grind in this game is... Literally destroys all fun factors and enrages me after literally WEEKS of material gathering just to engineer one fucking ship... But there is always this bright light in the tunnel that are Exigeous quickies, saving us so much more unnecessarily-spent time. Thank you so much ;) and to hell with Fdev policy...
You know honestly I agree - likely the most useful and important video for those that engineer that I've ever made for sure. At least it would be if I were a viewer but I'd barely be able to tolerate the douchebag that makes these videos, have you heard this guy? Ugh, what an asshole!
@@Exigeous Haha from what I've heard he has a good sense of self-deprecation. All your quickies are useful and it really feels like this will be the norm of tutorial-type videos in the future. This one in particular is beyond useful, every pilots should bookmark it =)
Yeah, I dunno, I still think the guy is an asshole, at least he's short about it so I don't have to listen to that awful voice of his for any longer than I have to!! :D
Oh Exigeous .. I just want to thank you so so much for ALL your amazing tutorials. Frontier owe you mega for you truly incredible ED tutorials... they should have paid you to do that instead of the crappy flat ones they offer which leave out about 80% of what you really need to know. I know you have moved on now in 2022 to other things, but your legacy on TH-cam in the ED universe will live on for many years. And you have my heartfelt thanks and deep gratitude. To have done what you did for so long is truly the mark of a very special individual! o7 commander!
Great tutorial! I noticed when the ship is destroyed we go back to the nearest FLEET CARRIER instead Ray Port station and yes I did land only in Ray Port to try enable station respawn. I didn't found a way to disable the fleet carrier spawn, so it might changed how spawn works in latest ED updates.
Just wanted to say thanks. Your tips helped me get to G5 as fast as reasonably could be expected. I only deviated by gathering only Imp Shields/Core/Prop Composites and trading them for the rest since the others were so bloody hard to spawn while you throw a limpet in an Imp System and you hit 15 Imp Shields.
Confirmed, working also in october 2020. All raw material sites are working and I found selenium wandering on planets, also it can be traded. Jameson still works and sometimes I visit Dav's just for fun, it's relaxing to race in SRV there. HGE farming works even easier, go to a boom system and no need to drop on nav beacon, just honk with DS and in FSS search for High grade emissions then fly there and relog, exit game completely. I carry a cargo + 64 limpets and it's more than enough. Thank you Exigeous, o7 :)
Thanks my friend, that means a lot. This is one I've wanted to do for a very long time as honestly I think it's likely the most useful one I've ever done around engineering. As we all know gathering materials is the hardest most time consuming part of the game so doing that as efficiently as possible is key.
i subscribed right away after watching this short video - short yes, but i would say more specific information in this 6 minutes than i heard in 60 mins elswhere on other channels, well done brother keep up the pricise to the point information, it certainly is refreshing to say the least.
Seems you got the entire point of the channel in one video - and possibly, at least for me personally, the most useful one on the channel, certainly if you engineer. Be sure to check out the website too - www.edtutorials.com
Spends two days worth of sessions hunting for outbreak HGE's- Looks at an old guide, realizes I need to be in alliance/independent space for what I'm looking for. Thanks for the concise, and useful guide.
Great upload. Got more than 3000 hours on this game, this vid is super useful for me at this stage. More focused mat gathering means I can try out my more left field engineering and gameplay combos.
I would like to add that if you did engineering a lot and look for a quick way - go on with this video. But for a person who never did it I would reccomend finding every material in its natural habitat at least once as this is perfect way to get to know everything that this game have to offer.
I wish you had mentioned that the stars out near the crystal shard sites required a 30+LY jump range. I made it halfway before having to turn back. Got some exploration data, but not the materials I was hoping for.
wow that respawn in deep space technique to get the mats from shipwrecks is something I never thought of, but would save a ton of time once you find the mats you need at a spot. Thanks!
brb maxing out my pharmaceutical isolators and improvised components before FD "bug" fixes that manufactured method in their never ending quest to make engineering as tedious as possible. Can't believe I didn't know you could do that until now, thank you! Also for those having trouble with the HGE's make sure you exit to desktop not main menu
I'm new to Elite, but I've already learned that you are the gold source on tutorials. Excellent video. Hell all of them are excellent and concise, and powerful. After this one though, I think I'm going to quit watching everyone else.
Seems you got the point of the channel really quickly. If you want a long, boring video that will waste your time there are plenty of TH-camrs out there that will do that - I figure you'd rather play Elite than listen to me so I'll always be as brief as possible.
This all still works. The Jameson crash site, log out to Main Menu, then come back as solo works great. As for the High Grade Emission method, I think it is considered legit by Frontier support because you can continue to gather after exiting to desktop only as long as the timer on the emission remains. Which is why in the video he suggests that you have 15 min on the timer -- and use the limpets. Otherwise, the cargo scoop method, allows only 2-3 collections in the 15 min timer. I did a 30 min timer last night without limpets and only collected 66 mats.
2:36 If you go HIP 36601 -> OUTOTZ LS-K D8-3 when gathering, that puts you on the path towards the Orion Nebula and other celestial structures that look gorgeous for your return trip to the bubble if you didn't suicide. From the bubble there's also a useable neutron star network, so had to learn that as well :o)
For Raw material gathering on a PS4, the initial limit is set to 100. You have to log out and back in again for the limit to be upped to 150. I did two straight fills on two moons before discovering and had to go back to fill up the extra 50 that I hadn't done initially. As soon as you get your first material (new discovery), make sure you log out and in again to ensure you don't forget!
@@donhayden336 What are you blabbering about? Have you even played this game? If so, you'd know the grinding is real. Anything that speeds it up AND has the blessing of Frontier Dev should absolutely be taught to people. So, in short, nobody gives two shits about your moral opinion. Enjoy wasting even more time in the precious supercruise you apparently thoroughly enjoy.
I guess you need a relatively cheap ship, because the rebuy cost will equate some mining time (which is the most efficient way to make money). For a big ship with rebuy in the millions, that 10 minute trip is worth it. Somewhere along the line however, you need to figure out what you want to do. If you are 100% focused on PvP, this kind of guide is great (but remember to buy a cheap ship for the suicide trip). If you are going to travel the galaxy, mapping and taking photos, gathering some of the materials will come automatically. You stop by a geolocial or biological site here and there and do some shooting. It is not the _wrong_ way to do it, but it is not the _fastest_ way. And since everything get boring and stressful if you always try peak efficiency, these pauses doing something else is worth it. As for cost and time, getting engineering material for missions is pretty expensive, you pay a lot for those materials. Perhaps even more than through the method described in this video.
@@buzzfightbeer8023 Grinding is a personal choice. It isn't something you're required to do. It's unpleasant precisely to dissuade you from doing it. The game is designed to motivate you to do a little of this, a little of that, and eventually get what you want. But people are impatient and want it all NOW. So they "grind" to hurry up and get everything. Even destroying your ship... now you have to "grind" to get back the credits you spent on the rebuy. Very strange to complain about grinding on a video that tells you to grind.
As of april 2021 this is still working. I also discovered you dont need to log into the same game type u used before, i was playing in open, then re logged in solo and the signal with the materials was still there. Great video!
@@Salatalik44 whats boring and time consuming if your actually having fun doing whatever you want and getting the materials threw missions you like . Only when you pressure yourself to be the highest possible level within a shortest amount of time its going to be boring .. yeah im gonne say it you dont know how to cortectly play this game
@@danielstokker your mental capacity being limited enough for you to be able to enjoy watching paint dry doesn't change the fact that it is terribly implemented, tiresome and shitty grind.
Note on the manufactured materials technique, you need to retarget the actual physical Navigation Beacon as you would a a ship after you drop out of supercruise (and it won't be at the exact location indicated by the compass and the navigation targeting), at which point you should see something about a data download in the upper right. This tripped me up a couple of times where I wasn't seeing any high grade emissions, just unknown signal sources. And I've also been told that it's not that important to go to the locations laid out at 3:15, but to just go to "boom" state places, as you can always just get good stuff and trade for what you want.
@EDTutorials by Exigeous Great content as always dude, I watch a LOT of other creators and there's some great stuff out there but you're hands down the best for direct information, no "fluff" just straight to the point, very informative and easy to follow. As a relatively new player, Elite was surprisingly complicated for me to get my head around and as much as I love it, there's a lot to take in! You and your site have been incredibly helpful and have allowed me to enjoy a game I love, that I otherwise might have given up on due to the lack of explanation for well... pretty much everything except basic flight controls in-game lol. Trust me, it's appreciated, keep it up!
Thanks for this. Ways to accelerate the grind allow us to engage in what this game truly has to offer in an efficient manner, just like the style of your videos. You are one of the best sir.
Anybody else have trouble with the HGEs? When I re-log the sources are gone and I have to go back and scan the Nav beacon every time. Edit: For pc you need to quit to desktop not menu for it to work, for consoles you need to quit the application not exit to menu for it to work.
@@steverobles9898 no man you? I can get the nav* beacon to rescan just have to relog until an HGE shows but wish the the method mentioned in the video worked. Going to be a slow grind this way for sure
@@steverobles9898 also getting different materials each time at the same location and my grade 5 materials list is a fair bit different then what's in the video so it must be some what out dated
Heads up - to get the Manufactured Materials from the last section, you have to exit the game entirely. _Not_ just to the main menu this time. Took me way too long to realize hah
This is brilliant! I knew some of this already, but you've really streamlined the processes. Now if only I could get Pharmaceutical Isolators to actually drop in HGEs...
Yeah, those are tough to find but they are definitely out there. You can of course grab 100 CDCs or Imp Shields in about 20 minutes and trade down for 16 of any other G5 mat.
@Schimz These pirate lords sound interesting, I presume they're found in high threat level USSs, right? Is there a page where one might get a brief overview of this scenario? Hey Exige, that might be a vid idea. Now that you've shown us arguably THE MOST EFFICIENT method, you could show us THE MOST FUN method, plus show off your combat prowess, plus...top off your own PI stock, if you haven't already.
2 questions Exi: if I don't see any HGEs after the first scan, what then? Hop to the next system or try some type of exit out thing? For harder things to find such as Pharma isolators, do you suggest instead farming easy G5s such as imperial shielding and just trading them in the batches of 60 across?
1. Yes, if you don't see an HGE once you jump to SC head to the next system that fits. I use EDDB.io for that, put in the system type I'm looking for, where I'm starting from and generate a list of systems. You can exit/relog but I don't tend to have good luck that way 2. Depends on how many you need. If you need less than 16 then yes, find a CDC or Imp Shield, max out and go trade. Generally I'll spend an evening maxing out all my G5s and if by the end of the night (or when I'm just done) if I haven't found Pharmas or Improvised Comps I just trade for what I need.
@@Exigeous Is there any additional "clue" as to what systems will generate these "High Grade Emissions" signals in Outbreak systems? I've jumped around to 10 or so Alliance and Independent systems in an Outbreak state, and only one system had any HGE. 1 HGE total, and I had only 2 minutes to get to that one (which I couldn't). This is quite frustrating.
@@Exigeous Awesome advice, many thanks! On the topic of moving on to the next system, I had 2 questions; First, a friend said I might find more signal sources in systems with higher populations (not sure what the cutoff would be). Would you do more jumps to prioritize those, or no? Second, I haven't had any luck yet; do you know off the top of your head any areas where systems of a given faction & state are all next door to each other? I'm doing a lot of 4 jumps to nothing, and was wondering if there are points on the map that would go faster for a given category? (I would just aim for the middle of a political bubble of the right colour as my starter system, but don't know if that puts me away from borders where wars happen, etc.)
@@BowChickaHonkHonk1 It's very random - I've found 7 High Grades in a system with 10,000 population and none in systems with billions. The best tool to use is the Material Finder on EDTutorials.com - linked in the top left.
Another one tip, for the HGE material grind, go for populations which have 100 million and above. I have one place which have 3 HGE signal sources in a system. Need more data to confirm this.
Yeah, those sites aren't bad if you wanna grab a few or get some data too - but ultimately they are no where near as efficient as the crystal sites. Best of luck
I thought materials dont respawn when you log out and in again? Also, dont you now respawn at the closest station... Not the last one you visited? Thanks for the video!
@@voggix4765 my response refers to the initial question. The initial question uses the word "respawn" suggesting that one loses the ship and explodes rather then logging out. :*
made my first 100 million and started going down the track by starting at Jameson Crash. Was fking astonished from all the stuff I was able to trade back at Ray's Gateway, definitely going back for more and quite possibly unlocking everything that I can. Here's hoping I got them RnM series to rewatch again
Great to see you again commander! Just when I thought there was nothing left to learn, somehow I did not know about these distant raw mat planets. Thanks for continuing to grant efficient tips to increase my 'fun time'!
Just as a heads up : You no longer re-spawn at the last port you docked at, now you re-spawn at the nearest available "port" with a shipyard, and that's frequently a fleet carrier in orbit around the planet you were on, so save yourself the rebuy. Pretty sure they did that just to be annoying shitheads and stop us from saving 15 minutes on their stupid grind.
Big thanks CMDR Exigeous and o7 CMDRs. I was missing the information about the other different types of encoded data you get at the crash site . I did some runs and got always the same 4: Modified Consumer Firmware (Grade 2) Cracked Industrial Firmware (Grade 3) Atypical Encryption Archives (Grade 4) Adaptive Encryptors Capture (Grade 5)
wow they must of nurfed the hell out of things since this vid cause ive been at it all day 8+ hrs and cant get near the amounts of stuff you are talking about might give it a shot tomorrow but if not fuck might not keep playing
Just got back from implementing this new knowledge. The Jameson ship is pretty straightforward. I used your method for HGE farming and filled up on the high level materials then traded down so everything is solidly in good stock. Raw farming... well my own failure caused me some consternation here. I should have just copy/pasted from the info here but I hand wrote HIP 33601 but typed 33061 on my computer note. And strangely while that does not exist, my route planner gave me a destination 1400 ly out. Long flight to find my destination was not there. Self destruct for the quick way home. See my hand written note was 33601. That was only a few hundred ly out and again wrong. Finally do what I should have done originally and re verified with the video. 36601 8^( By this time the night was gone and morning was in fully swing. Had to wait. Next day I made it out to the RIGHT system and there they were! Ran the HIP planets first then bounced to the OUTOTZ ones. Each collected resource gives you 3 so it is actually pretty quick to collect the top level raws. Since I am working on my explore rank as well I just flew home fss scanning on the way and made another 14 mil on collected data. Now I have good levels of ALL materials and the knowledge of how to easily procure more whenever I like (well except raws... that takes some time to get there.) In summary, Thank you so much for this! - CMDR Shadowpanther
Still working except I haven't, for the life of me, been able to get a single HGE in an independent or alliance system in civil unrest to get the improvised components. Most of em have civil unrest and boom states in the system, and I get the damn boom faction HGEs. I've found a few systems in civil unrest with nothing else but bust, but no damn HGEs at all even after hours of rechecking every 5-15 mins (just rescanning the beacon, which has worked in other systems; logging out to main menu or exiting game entirely between rechecks)
Yeah, that's definitely one of the most rare of them all - if you need less than 16 it's much faster to go get 100 imperial shielding and trade down as that will give you 16 of them and you can get that many in under 20 minutes.
It's a shame HGEs are still broken though. I finally found an Outbreak HGE in an Outbreak-controlled system, and all I found were a few Proto Light Alloys.
I found pharmaceutical isolators, there is only 1 and a bunch of lower grade mats at any given time, not worth it. Collecting 100 of these would take me hours not 15 minutes.
@@geist-2111 What signal source were you in? I've never seen anything but G5 and G4 mats spawn in a HGE so I'm guessing that's not where you were maybe? I've had many comments just today of finding pharmas just fine - remember this stuff is highly variable.
Remember the state of the individual faction in that system is what will give you what your looking for. You need to find high grades with the signal source belonging to the faction in outbreak. You can go to a system that's In boom, and find military alloys/supercaps because a lower faction is in war/civil war, although the leading faction is in boom.
I found another Outbreak-controlled system yesterday, and all four HGEs were War HGEs (maybe the populalation is starving because the soldiers are eating all the food). The controlling faction should have the majority of HGEs.
@Bran I haven't tested this quite enough myself to draw a firm conclusion (no hurry, and anyway it's continually evolved over the years, and likely will continue to do so) but yeah, it does seem like the whole controlling faction relationship-to-HGEs may not be perfect. But again, not certain. Maybe I'm just not sampling widely enough, that's usually where any statistical analysis failure occurs, right?
It's clear that this guide was written before the Fleet Carrier patch! :-) I went in search of these mats and really didn't need to use the FSS to find the planets I needed. I found 48 Fleet Carriers in the HIP36601 system, in orbit around each of the 4 planets like stacks of Pringles, 18 Fleet Carriers in the Outotz System, stacked around the 2 planets there and 41 stacked around or near CMDR Jamesons crash site. A lot of people have a lot of money to spare :-) There was one other thing I noticed. It may be a bug or intentional, but I found that with the materials collection, the bin says max capacity 100 but if you go over 50/100 up to 100/100 and log out and back in again, your capacity has gone up to 150. Sadly this doesn't work if the bin capacity is already 150, nor does it work on the data collection from CMDR Jamesons' crash site.
I might have done something wrong, or maybe the game has changed, but I self destructed and respawned no where near ray station (even though I had just come from there). I also lost about 500 mil worth of exobiology data I was holding onto for rep grinds. So yeah, don't be a dumbass like me and just take the safe trip back probably.
This is a great video. I have been playing for a few months now and Ive started unlocking and finally using some of the enginners. I was making list of all I would need to get the G5 blue prints plus some experimental effects. Ive dabbled a bit with the trader and used what materials Ive aquired through missions and mining so far. Thanks for this . This is exactly what I need .
Just a very helpful tip, there are carriers around these few spots WHICH CAN HELP YOU RESTOCK AND REPAIR YOUR SRV. You don't have to go back to the Bubble in order to repair or restock your ship or ammo to harvest those materials. Just check whether are they for all docking access and you will be good to go. I had to leave HIP earlier cause I was running down to 600 rounds on my SRV and only realized that I can restock my ammo at Outotz.
You can synthesis SRV Ammo and Fuel with sulphur and phosphorus and repair it through synthesis with iron and nickel. This way you can still use the self-destruct way to get back to the bubble.
So I traveled to the HIP 36601 system to get raw materials, and as I got there I noticed something weird. I couldn't find C1, C3, C5, or their moons. In fact, I couldn't even find more than one star on the system map,,, Then I realized I had accidentally traveled to HIP 33601, around 1700lys away from HIP 36601.
Cmdr Exigeous, I stopped playing 2 years ago because of the material and engineering grind... This video might have just help convince me to start up again, I used to always follow your tutorials! Another excellent video 😎🙏👍
As Cranky says the game really has come a long way in that time - I mean right now the speed record to reaching Elite in trade is 7 hours 4 minutes. So yeah, things are better, no where near perfect but better.
@@x...CrankyOldMan...x that is great to hear man!! Yeah Elite 2 years ago was ridiculous for the grind. I didn't mind putting in the effort for the learning curve sense of achievement.. but jeeez! Thx for yr input dude 😎👍💪
@@Exigeous that is music to my ears.. yeah I'm feeling the calling again.. and I'm still loving yr videos dude 😎 Davs hope etc plus many others. Great work Exigeous 😎💙🙏
@@billymkirkwood4956 yea thx.. my advise is to "pledge" to Aisling Duval right away and earn ur Prismatic Shields. and you will get a great head start for all your adventures...
This is a good tactic for manufactured materials, i cant come close to 100 in 15 minutes after factoring in the re-load game time as well but this is still a very fast method.
For the most part good video, but it would have cost you less time to just say where the Jameson crash site is, than to tell us to go digging through all your videos to find it
A recommend ship builds to farm engineer materials is a FULLY ENGINEERED ship with Guardian Modules? Wow ok, guess i'll just magically turn my ship into fully engineered and go farm the mats for fun then.
And this... Just convinced me to not do any of that. I'll just collect and trade as I go and maybe I'll use some of these methods to complete the needed materials...
I haven't even done any engineering yet 😒 the time I get in-game is limited so I make the most of what I get by mining to buy what I want (I have been playing since not long after release and only just bought an Anaconda) now I'm saving up for a FC & Corvette but the grind is real and this vid has made me realise I could engineer reasonable easily (thanks COVID-19 for giving me more play time)
I've used EDDB to find systems in the proper state for HGE and only found two. I forgot to log out and back into the same mode. But it seems hit and miss to actually find a system with HGE. The video is solid though. Glad to see new videos from you. Cheers!
Absolutely the spawn rates will be HIGHLY variable, sometimes I get nothing for 30 minutes then I'll find a system with 5 HGEs. Usually I average finding one about every 15 minutes or so.
As of 27/1/23
For people playing on Horizons 4.0 or Odyssey and are doing raw material gathering.
Be aware that the shards are kind of all over the planet, rather than in small groupings like in previous versions of Elite. They appear in a "heatmap" type thing. You land your ship in the general area of the shard section and use the radar on your SRV to find them. You plain don't get the signal sources to home in on in Horizons 4.0 or Odyssey like you could in Horizons 3.8.
Polonium/HIP 36601 C1A
-57.54° 126.95°
Technetium/HIP 36001 C5A
3.55 111.54
Tellurium/HIP 36601 C3B
-65.2° 43.6°
-61.4° 35.5°
Yttrium/Outotz LS-K D8-3 B5A -2.0° 73.33°
Antimony/Outotz LS-K D8-3 B5C -1.70° 22.22°.
Very helpful thanks. I just spent all day jumping my carrier over to these systems i used years ago and was pissed to find no signals lol. Good to know it wasnt for nothin!
Guess who's back with a brand new rap. Not Exigeous. He's back with a straight to the point, no BS video. Excellent.
just that this exploit does not work anymore.
@@NapFloridian yep, which blows.
@@NapFloridian You need to COMPLETELY exit the game. Exit to desktop, that is.
@@NapFloridian You need to COMPLETELY exit the game. Exit to desktop, that is.
@@NapFloridian You need to COMPLETELY exit the game. Exit to desktop, that is.
NOTE on High Grade Emission Method: As I've had to clarify this a number of times you do not just exit to main menu, you must EXIT TO DESKTOP. If you just exit to main menu the HGE won't respawn, if you exit to desktop it will. I also opened a ticket with support to confirm that it is not a violation of the ToS, etc. to exit the game and restart to get materials to respawn and they confirmed it is not. So if you're worried this is an exploit according to those that make the rules you're good to go. Also remember that signal sources have a timer on them and if that expires while you're out of game (as time keeps on tickin', tickin', tickin') then it won't be there when you get back into supercruise.
Ah. Damn, that's what I thought I saw you do. Well, I guess I have to do this outside of VR. Thanks for the clarification.
@@KalelPak123 Well you can do it in VR, you'll just be jumping in and out of game in VR which is annoying so yeah, I do all my farming like this outside of VR so I can watch a movie, TV, etc while I "work"
So, since I'm on Xbox I have to exit to home screen and then quit out of the program? I was trying the HGE technique outlined in your video and was quite frustrated as the nearest USS was usually 750-900 ls away and often degraded. Thought I would check the comments and see if I was doing it wrong.
ahhh
Shaman Frost,
I just tried this several times and is not the same for Xbox users.
every other content creator: "how to gather 1 material" = 20min video with 89%BS -/- CMDR Exigeous: "how to gather every material" = 5min video, 0% BS
Seems you're getting the entire point of the channel. I actually started it after needing one piece of information from another creators channel and I had to wade through over 30 minutes of "hey TH-cam, okay, uh let's see, oh yeah - be sure to like, comment and subscribe, that really helps out the channel, uh yeah so today we're gonna head to... oh, let's figure out a ship. Uh....." and I wanted to shoot myself.
@@Exigeous Seriously. Your content is very condensed. I like the "not wasting time"-Approach. This confirms you do not receive funding from FDev, for obvious reasons.
Thank you for making these videos!
Sorry yes but this is also the most crazy exploits..
i agree 1000%
@@Exigeous I just read this comment and have been watching your videos and did exactly that cause your comment reminded me LOL. I like the content keep up the good work.
That little tip to zero your throttle and boost to engage FSD made SUCH a difference. I went from maybe 4 repetitions of a site before it expired to a dozen or more.
Honestly these are some of the absolute best ED videos available. Thank you!
This video is more important than ever. FDev recently acknowledged the mass amount of players relog farming mats and knowing FDev, theyll only be looking at how it is done and not why. Material grinding isnt fun in the slightest and incredibly slow, which all but forces anyone who takes engineering seriously to use such methods. Use it while you can.
do mentioned methods still working? Accidentally returned to Elite after almost 3 years pause and wanna reengineer some ships :)
@@olegmakogon7447 no they don’t. I just returned with a trillion credits worth of void opals in my carrier and wanted to start buying all ships fully engineered but when I came todo the third method the signal sources disappear after restarting.
high grade emissions for imperial shielding is cake - fly a loop around the hi-pop major systems - Achenar, Kamadhenu, Cubeo to name a few
in Cubeo I got 8 different HGE to spawn
past that the rest of this video works
@@someone7481 it does still work but you need to find the signal again. After you relog and get into supercruise, run a d-scan or recalibrate sensors in FSS and the signal will pop up behind you.
@@casliquid nope, tried this and signal had gone.
Doesn’t matter, Ive finally maxed out my cutter and corvettes so I think I’m done engineering. To be honest the games going little stale,
Thank you for this guide, after spending many many hours just trying to play the game regularly to get all of these resources and making little headway to engineer even one ship, this has enabled me to get everything I need to outfit all the key vessels in my fleet. I can get back to playing the game rather than scouring empty planets for scraps of ore and stop breaking the flow of pirate hunting with having to scoop the battlefield after every kill. I really appreciate the concise collection of information you've presented here.
The quality of Exigeous videos is outrageous. Straight to the point and no BS. Thanks a lot for your help CMDR o7
Thanks for the kind words, seems you've gotten the entire point of my channel ;-)
Just ran into this particular video because I've been grinding for 2 days looking for some freaking components to max out my level 5 FSD. I have watched many of your videos and they help out immensely. Your straight to the point delivery is refreshing. You put out some great content my friend. Happy to be a sub, and thankful for your help. Also what I like about your channel is that you engage with your viewers in the comments section. Nothing will turn me away from a channel faster than seeing a million questions or comments with not a single response. Many creators need a good lesson from you. o7
NOTE for CONSOLE Players: As I don't own a PS4 or Xbox I couldn't test this but viewers have reported that the HGE method here works but you must fully close the game and return to the dashboard, not just switch out of the game or exit to main menu. As I can't verify this if someone from Xbox and PS4 could confirm for us that would be great.
You are correct sir. A CMDR must do what's called a "dashboard log," meaning they close out of the game without logging out and return to the dashboard. From there, logging back in and reentering the HGE takes about 3.5 mins.
@@joshuawinters6415 Thanks for the specific details - bummer it takes so long as it's about a minute on PC, at least for me.
I’ve just tried it on PS4, and it doesn’t seem to work.
It's working for me on ps4. Fly in, collect, press PS button, close application relaunch and repeat.
This 100% works on Xbox One. Thanks for the excellent, no BS video. Already saved me hours or farming.
Honestly I've been bouncing through guides and yours is the most efficient, least painful and more to the point. Thank you for being a no-nonsense commander. You deserve my sub, sir. O7
Too bad "least painful" is the best you can expect from gathering engineering mats.
Can't figure out what Fdev was aiming for with this.
Back to the “all killer, no filler”
Excellent
Okay, I'm gonna use that, "all killer, no filler" - love it!
CMDR Exigeous glad you’re posting again, dude 👍
I've learned more since finding your channel in a few days than I have in my entire time on ED (Since a few months before Odyssey's release). The straight to the point, and detailed way you present information is not only informative, but genuinely easy to swallow. You have made engineering and numerous mechanics of this game go from intimidating and haunting for me, to genuinely nothing more than another thing to do. I never engineered because it was daunting, but now im working on a few ships and engineering them already AND teaching my fiance what I've learned using your videos. You've made the vast emptiness of space a little less daunting for TWO CMDRs. Thank you, so much.
You are a godsend. Just did my first engineered FSD and I regret not doing this sooner, I was worried about the material grind but this made it so much easier. Gonna be coming back to this whenever I need to do some more engineering always. o7
For anyone wondering, all of these methods still work as of the time of me writing this comment.
Thanks for saying that, I was a bit concerned.
thanks! i was worried frontier used their trusted nerfhammer
the manufactured material signal source method doesn't work for me. the signal source doesn't appear after I jump
@@aliakeel its been patched yesterday, same with surface materials.
THE nerfhammer came
@@Doile911 goddamn it. I have to go to dav's hope again, don't I?
Thank you for this guide.
Over a year later and it's still helping noobs like me.
same
thanks for the vid, did the signal sources + crash site and its still valid in 2023 for anybody worried. (dont need the raw mats so havent tried that)
Well i just wanted to start engineering for the first time. Godly timing.
Sweet, get on it! If you have any questions I have videos covering all the engineers and most all the modules
@@Exigeous Yeah gonna gather Materials until full, unlocking all engineers is the next step in my plan haha. Got my phantom to 50 range already. Im having way too much fun with this game :)
@@diobrando6147 Just in time is right! About to grind for my first engineered mod as well, the FSD. Exigeous is doing the Lord's work here.
Not gonna lie, fully engineered my corvette without using any of these methods and man.. this changes everything. Wish I would have known all of this a year or more ago. Fantastic video, I think I'll sub.
it's just a shame we have to resort to such tactics... Grind does not always equal fun.
Yeah, I figure there are days I "play" Elite and days I "work" Elite, I want my "work" to be as efficient as possible, just like my videos.
There are big chances that between 100th and 200th re-logs you will want to purchase some skin or colored effect. All this grind is for that purpose.
@@Exigeous I know that feeling. I do not have a single fully engineered ship because of how ridiculous the grind is.
I wonder if frontier has taken notice to how many loopholes people have found to their system of "gameplay" and may consider redesigning it.
@@Hiniberus doubt it, depending on the amount of ships you have to engineer you are going to be gathering for quite some time.
When you pop up into a system with a grade 5 vette , it feels nice man.
THANK YOU, ALL OTHER VIDEO'S COST ME 4 HOURS OF MY LIFE. YOU LITTERALY COST ME 5. YOU DESERVE MORE!
As of 3/19/2024, self-destructing to save the trip back to the material trader after harvesting Jameson's crash site no longer takes you back to the material trader, and instead takes you back to the nearest Fleet Carrier, assuming there are some closer to you than the station (there is, they're everywhere).
Source: I just self destructed to save myself the trip and it cost me rebuy and didn't save me any time at all.
Confirmed. Takes about 30 minutes now to do the round trip. My math says you need about 14 hours to get all Grade 5 materials to 100. Then however long it takes for all the rest. I was really hoping for a faster way. 14 hours!
I just can't stress out how RIDICULOUS the grind in this game is... Literally destroys all fun factors and enrages me after literally WEEKS of material gathering just to engineer one fucking ship... But there is always this bright light in the tunnel that are Exigeous quickies, saving us so much more unnecessarily-spent time. Thank you so much ;) and to hell with Fdev policy...
This is probably the most useful of all Elite videos.
You know honestly I agree - likely the most useful and important video for those that engineer that I've ever made for sure. At least it would be if I were a viewer but I'd barely be able to tolerate the douchebag that makes these videos, have you heard this guy? Ugh, what an asshole!
@@Exigeous Haha from what I've heard he has a good sense of self-deprecation. All your quickies are useful and it really feels like this will be the norm of tutorial-type videos in the future. This one in particular is beyond useful, every pilots should bookmark it =)
Yeah, I dunno, I still think the guy is an asshole, at least he's short about it so I don't have to listen to that awful voice of his for any longer than I have to!! :D
Oh Exigeous .. I just want to thank you so so much for ALL your amazing tutorials. Frontier owe you mega for you truly incredible ED tutorials... they should have paid you to do that instead of the crappy flat ones they offer which leave out about 80% of what you really need to know.
I know you have moved on now in 2022 to other things, but your legacy on TH-cam in the ED universe will live on for many years.
And you have my heartfelt thanks and deep gratitude. To have done what you did for so long is truly the mark of a very special individual!
o7 commander!
Great tutorial! I noticed when the ship is destroyed we go back to the nearest FLEET CARRIER instead Ray Port station and yes I did land only in Ray Port to try enable station respawn. I didn't found a way to disable the fleet carrier spawn, so it might changed how spawn works in latest ED updates.
Just wanted to say thanks. Your tips helped me get to G5 as fast as reasonably could be expected. I only deviated by gathering only Imp Shields/Core/Prop Composites and trading them for the rest since the others were so bloody hard to spawn while you throw a limpet in an Imp System and you hit 15 Imp Shields.
Confirmed, working also in october 2020. All raw material sites are working and I found selenium wandering on planets, also it can be traded. Jameson still works and sometimes I visit Dav's just for fun, it's relaxing to race in SRV there. HGE farming works even easier, go to a boom system and no need to drop on nav beacon, just honk with DS and in FSS search for High grade emissions then fly there and relog, exit game completely. I carry a cargo + 64 limpets and it's more than enough.
Thank you Exigeous, o7 :)
I tried high grade emissions last night and it didn't work very well, do you have to quit to the menu or fully close the game?
@@ulisesguzman8574 close to desktop!
Man this guide ALONE has dramatically improved the game for me. A couple hours grinding and I have materials for all the fun builds in the world.
Would also advise for the data gathering to also trade the Atypical Encryption Archives before farming as you'll get those along with the G5.
Quite likely the best video I've seen you do, and that is a fantasticly high bar to hurdle. Well done, Cmdr, and welcome back! o7
Thanks my friend, that means a lot. This is one I've wanted to do for a very long time as honestly I think it's likely the most useful one I've ever done around engineering. As we all know gathering materials is the hardest most time consuming part of the game so doing that as efficiently as possible is key.
@@Exigeous can i say 1 thing hawkes irritates my nuts off so i follow your guides 🤣🤣
i subscribed right away after watching this short video - short yes, but i would say more specific information in this 6 minutes than i heard in 60 mins elswhere on other channels, well done brother keep up the pricise to the point information, it certainly is refreshing to say the least.
Seems you got the entire point of the channel in one video - and possibly, at least for me personally, the most useful one on the channel, certainly if you engineer. Be sure to check out the website too - www.edtutorials.com
Spends two days worth of sessions hunting for outbreak HGE's-
Looks at an old guide, realizes I need to be in alliance/independent space for what I'm looking for.
Thanks for the concise, and useful guide.
Been playing this game since day 1...I've just been shown that i've been doing it all wrong...Cheers for the straight to the point 'how to'👍
Of course my friend, glad I could help ya out!
I just wanted to say, that basically anytime I need to farm mats, I bring this video up to see what to do. So thank you so much for this video.
We miss ya, buddy.
Great upload. Got more than 3000 hours on this game, this vid is super useful for me at this stage. More focused mat gathering means I can try out my more left field engineering and gameplay combos.
Seems you're getting the point perfect!
I would like to add that if you did engineering a lot and look for a quick way - go on with this video. But for a person who never did it I would reccomend finding every material in its natural habitat at least once as this is perfect way to get to know everything that this game have to offer.
I wish you had mentioned that the stars out near the crystal shard sites required a 30+LY jump range. I made it halfway before having to turn back. Got some exploration data, but not the materials I was hoping for.
Always look ahead when you plan your trips and btw what ship did you use as even a basic unengineered explorer can get there
wow that respawn in deep space technique to get the mats from shipwrecks is something I never thought of, but would save a ton of time once you find the mats you need at a spot. Thanks!
I just started grinding engineering materials few days ago and this is probably the most helpful video for me right now. Appreciated.
brb maxing out my pharmaceutical isolators and improvised components before FD "bug" fixes that manufactured method in their never ending quest to make engineering as tedious as possible. Can't believe I didn't know you could do that until now, thank you! Also for those having trouble with the HGE's make sure you exit to desktop not main menu
This made me realize how much I missed your videos
Aww, thanks amigo, and I missed your comments too :D
I'm new to Elite, but I've already learned that you are the gold source on tutorials. Excellent video. Hell all of them are excellent and concise, and powerful. After this one though, I think I'm going to quit watching everyone else.
You're making the best Elite videos on TH-cam. The attention to detail and the presentation are very focused and informative. Great work!
Seems you got the point of the channel really quickly. If you want a long, boring video that will waste your time there are plenty of TH-camrs out there that will do that - I figure you'd rather play Elite than listen to me so I'll always be as brief as possible.
This all still works.
The Jameson crash site, log out to Main Menu, then come back as solo works great.
As for the High Grade Emission method, I think it is considered legit by Frontier support because you can continue to gather after exiting to desktop only as long as the timer on the emission remains. Which is why in the video he suggests that you have 15 min on the timer -- and use the limpets. Otherwise, the cargo scoop method, allows only 2-3 collections in the 15 min timer. I did a 30 min timer last night without limpets and only collected 66 mats.
This is going to save soooo much time, you sir are gentleman and a scholar. Thank you :D :D
Thanks a lot man. Just coming back into it after 2 years off, and between D2EA and you I have all the guides I need !
2:36
If you go HIP 36601 -> OUTOTZ LS-K D8-3 when gathering, that puts you on the path towards the Orion Nebula and other celestial structures that look gorgeous for your return trip to the bubble if you didn't suicide.
From the bubble there's also a useable neutron star network, so had to learn that as well :o)
For Raw material gathering on a PS4, the initial limit is set to 100. You have to log out and back in again for the limit to be upped to 150. I did two straight fills on two moons before discovering and had to go back to fill up the extra 50 that I hadn't done initially. As soon as you get your first material (new discovery), make sure you log out and in again to ensure you don't forget!
this is a good tutorial but logging in and out and blowing my srv and ship up is not what i had in mind when i bought this game xD
exactly bunch of cheaters blow your ship up you should have to go back to sidewinder with 1000 cr.
@@donhayden336 hey, kid, talking without knowing its called ignorance, you've learned something new today :D
@@donhayden336 What are you blabbering about? Have you even played this game? If so, you'd know the grinding is real. Anything that speeds it up AND has the blessing of Frontier Dev should absolutely be taught to people. So, in short, nobody gives two shits about your moral opinion. Enjoy wasting even more time in the precious supercruise you apparently thoroughly enjoy.
I guess you need a relatively cheap ship, because the rebuy cost will equate some mining time (which is the most efficient way to make money).
For a big ship with rebuy in the millions, that 10 minute trip is worth it.
Somewhere along the line however, you need to figure out what you want to do. If you are 100% focused on PvP, this kind of guide is great (but remember to buy a cheap ship for the suicide trip). If you are going to travel the galaxy, mapping and taking photos, gathering some of the materials will come automatically. You stop by a geolocial or biological site here and there and do some shooting.
It is not the _wrong_ way to do it, but it is not the _fastest_ way. And since everything get boring and stressful if you always try peak efficiency, these pauses doing something else is worth it.
As for cost and time, getting engineering material for missions is pretty expensive, you pay a lot for those materials. Perhaps even more than through the method described in this video.
@@buzzfightbeer8023 Grinding is a personal choice. It isn't something you're required to do. It's unpleasant precisely to dissuade you from doing it. The game is designed to motivate you to do a little of this, a little of that, and eventually get what you want. But people are impatient and want it all NOW. So they "grind" to hurry up and get everything. Even destroying your ship... now you have to "grind" to get back the credits you spent on the rebuy. Very strange to complain about grinding on a video that tells you to grind.
As of april 2021 this is still working. I also discovered you dont need to log into the same game type u used before, i was playing in open, then re logged in solo and the signal with the materials was still there. Great video!
if this is intended gameplay.. i dont even know what to say. couldnt this be made into something fun within the game mechanics?
This is not the intended way to play, it's the fastest, most efficient way to gather the materials.
yeah this is not the intended way to play, intended way is much more boring and time consuming.
@@Salatalik44 whats boring and time consuming if your actually having fun doing whatever you want and getting the materials threw missions you like . Only when you pressure yourself to be the highest possible level within a shortest amount of time its going to be boring .. yeah im gonne say it you dont know how to cortectly play this game
@@danielstokker your mental capacity being limited enough for you to be able to enjoy watching paint dry doesn't change the fact that it is terribly implemented, tiresome and shitty grind.
Note on the manufactured materials technique, you need to retarget the actual physical Navigation Beacon as you would a a ship after you drop out of supercruise (and it won't be at the exact location indicated by the compass and the navigation targeting), at which point you should see something about a data download in the upper right. This tripped me up a couple of times where I wasn't seeing any high grade emissions, just unknown signal sources.
And I've also been told that it's not that important to go to the locations laid out at 3:15, but to just go to "boom" state places, as you can always just get good stuff and trade for what you want.
Elite:Dangerous, where killing yourself is part of the fun. I mean grind.
Don't forgetting needing to entertain yourself with movies, etc while you play!
@EDTutorials by Exigeous Great content as always dude, I watch a LOT of other creators and there's some great stuff out there but you're hands down the best for direct information, no "fluff" just straight to the point, very informative and easy to follow.
As a relatively new player, Elite was surprisingly complicated for me to get my head around and as much as I love it, there's a lot to take in!
You and your site have been incredibly helpful and have allowed me to enjoy a game I love, that I otherwise might have given up on due to the lack of explanation for well... pretty much everything except basic flight controls in-game lol.
Trust me, it's appreciated, keep it up!
baaaam, you made a lot of people very happy in 5 min. 😄👍👍👍
Probably the best elite video on youtube, thank you so much !
You're most welcome my friend
@@Exigeous Thanx commander o7
Oh man this video just gave me flashbacks. Thanks for reminding me why I stopped playing.
ED time sinks are awful.
Stay gone!
@@mossthatrules77 I have!! Not planning on anytime soon either cupcake.
Thanks for this. Ways to accelerate the grind allow us to engage in what this game truly has to offer in an efficient manner, just like the style of your videos. You are one of the best sir.
Seems you got the entire point of the channel in one comment - well done ;-)
As of today the HGE loop still works :-) Thanks bro! You and Hawkes make the greatest ED videos
I am new to ED and your content is Outstanding in every regard. Thank you for showing me the ropes in a no BS format and keep up the great work!
Anybody else have trouble with the HGEs? When I re-log the sources are gone and I have to go back and scan the Nav beacon every time.
Edit: For pc you need to quit to desktop not menu for it to work, for consoles you need to quit the application not exit to menu for it to work.
Same here
Except scanning the nav beacon the second time yielded nothing
@@grot777 were you able to get it working?
@@steverobles9898 no man you? I can get the nav* beacon to rescan just have to relog until an HGE shows but wish the the method mentioned in the video worked. Going to be a slow grind this way for sure
@@steverobles9898 also getting different materials each time at the same location and my grade 5 materials list is a fair bit different then what's in the video so it must be some what out dated
Same, didn't work for me. Also got ZERO signals after scanning nav beacon for second time. Probably an attempt to patch. PS4, Horizons
If you're wondering "bruh, this is a 3 year ago video, it doesn't works". Works and worth it, just do it. Its easy materials
Heads up - to get the Manufactured Materials from the last section, you have to exit the game entirely. _Not_ just to the main menu this time. Took me way too long to realize hah
Thank you... I was thinking it was patched lol
This is brilliant! I knew some of this already, but you've really streamlined the processes. Now if only I could get Pharmaceutical Isolators to actually drop in HGEs...
Yeah, those are tough to find but they are definitely out there. You can of course grab 100 CDCs or Imp Shields in about 20 minutes and trade down for 16 of any other G5 mat.
Pirate lords have tons of them. But you have to play the game rather than a dumb grinding.
@Schimz
These pirate lords sound interesting, I presume they're found in high threat level USSs, right? Is there a page where one might get a brief overview of this scenario? Hey Exige, that might be a vid idea. Now that you've shown us arguably THE MOST EFFICIENT method, you could show us THE MOST FUN method, plus show off your combat prowess, plus...top off your own PI stock, if you haven't already.
2 questions Exi: if I don't see any HGEs after the first scan, what then? Hop to the next system or try some type of exit out thing?
For harder things to find such as Pharma isolators, do you suggest instead farming easy G5s such as imperial shielding and just trading them in the batches of 60 across?
1. Yes, if you don't see an HGE once you jump to SC head to the next system that fits. I use EDDB.io for that, put in the system type I'm looking for, where I'm starting from and generate a list of systems. You can exit/relog but I don't tend to have good luck that way
2. Depends on how many you need. If you need less than 16 then yes, find a CDC or Imp Shield, max out and go trade. Generally I'll spend an evening maxing out all my G5s and if by the end of the night (or when I'm just done) if I haven't found Pharmas or Improvised Comps I just trade for what I need.
@@Exigeous Is there any additional "clue" as to what systems will generate these "High Grade Emissions" signals in Outbreak systems? I've jumped around to 10 or so Alliance and Independent systems in an Outbreak state, and only one system had any HGE. 1 HGE total, and I had only 2 minutes to get to that one (which I couldn't). This is quite frustrating.
@@Exigeous Awesome advice, many thanks!
On the topic of moving on to the next system, I had 2 questions;
First, a friend said I might find more signal sources in systems with higher populations (not sure what the cutoff would be). Would you do more jumps to prioritize those, or no?
Second, I haven't had any luck yet; do you know off the top of your head any areas where systems of a given faction & state are all next door to each other? I'm doing a lot of 4 jumps to nothing, and was wondering if there are points on the map that would go faster for a given category? (I would just aim for the middle of a political bubble of the right colour as my starter system, but don't know if that puts me away from borders where wars happen, etc.)
@@BowChickaHonkHonk1 It's very random - I've found 7 High Grades in a system with 10,000 population and none in systems with billions. The best tool to use is the Material Finder on EDTutorials.com - linked in the top left.
Another one tip, for the HGE material grind, go for populations which have 100 million and above. I have one place which have 3 HGE signal sources in a system. Need more data to confirm this.
Well, after that video and after ~150 hours in game I might actually try engineering. Thanks you for no BS guide!
You're most welcome, you'll find all my guides as brief, concise and no-bullshit as possible
Man! Your a god send. I've been grinding my RAWs at one of the crash condas. Your a life saver man👍
Yeah, those sites aren't bad if you wanna grab a few or get some data too - but ultimately they are no where near as efficient as the crystal sites. Best of luck
I thought materials dont respawn when you log out and in again?
Also, dont you now respawn at the closest station... Not the last one you visited?
Thanks for the video!
Well all I say is it works exactly as you see in the video - you only respawn in a station when you die, not just when you exit game and log back in.
When you are far from any station, you respawn where you were docked last
@@UrsusTheDruid Only if you are destroyed. Otherwise you appear exactly where you logged out.
@@voggix4765 my response refers to the initial question. The initial question uses the word "respawn" suggesting that one loses the ship and explodes rather then logging out. :*
made my first 100 million and started going down the track by starting at Jameson Crash. Was fking astonished from all the stuff I was able to trade back at Ray's Gateway, definitely going back for more and quite possibly unlocking everything that I can. Here's hoping I got them RnM series to rewatch again
january-update (14.01.2020) didnt break the manufactured method. That much i can confirm. ^^
edit: still was living in 2019 ^^
Yep, that was the first thing I tested as soon as I logged in ;-)
Thanks for testing ! :)
thanks but you mean 2020?
@@thebadmf Well unless he's time traveling I think so....
@@thebadmf true. I am gonna correct it to avoid confusion.
Great to see you again commander! Just when I thought there was nothing left to learn, somehow I did not know about these distant raw mat planets. Thanks for continuing to grant efficient tips to increase my 'fun time'!
Just as a heads up : You no longer re-spawn at the last port you docked at, now you re-spawn at the nearest available "port" with a shipyard, and that's frequently a fleet carrier in orbit around the planet you were on, so save yourself the rebuy. Pretty sure they did that just to be annoying shitheads and stop us from saving 15 minutes on their stupid grind.
Big thanks CMDR Exigeous and o7 CMDRs.
I was missing the information about the other different types of encoded data you get at the crash site . I did some runs and got always the same 4:
Modified Consumer Firmware (Grade 2)
Cracked Industrial Firmware (Grade 3)
Atypical Encryption Archives (Grade 4)
Adaptive Encryptors Capture (Grade 5)
Yup. You will use the grade 5 to trade for the data you want.
wow they must of nurfed the hell out of things since this vid cause ive been at it all day 8+ hrs and cant get near the amounts of stuff you are talking about might give it a shot tomorrow but if not fuck might not keep playing
yeah it got nerfed
Just got back from implementing this new knowledge.
The Jameson ship is pretty straightforward.
I used your method for HGE farming and filled up on the high level materials then traded down so everything is solidly in good stock.
Raw farming... well my own failure caused me some consternation here. I should have just copy/pasted from the info here but I hand wrote HIP 33601 but typed 33061 on my computer note. And strangely while that does not exist, my route planner gave me a destination 1400 ly out. Long flight to find my destination was not there. Self destruct for the quick way home. See my hand written note was 33601. That was only a few hundred ly out and again wrong. Finally do what I should have done originally and re verified with the video. 36601 8^( By this time the night was gone and morning was in fully swing. Had to wait. Next day I made it out to the RIGHT system and there they were! Ran the HIP planets first then bounced to the OUTOTZ ones. Each collected resource gives you 3 so it is actually pretty quick to collect the top level raws. Since I am working on my explore rank as well I just flew home fss scanning on the way and made another 14 mil on collected data.
Now I have good levels of ALL materials and the knowledge of how to easily procure more whenever I like (well except raws... that takes some time to get there.)
In summary, Thank you so much for this!
- CMDR Shadowpanther
Still working except I haven't, for the life of me, been able to get a single HGE in an independent or alliance system in civil unrest to get the improvised components. Most of em have civil unrest and boom states in the system, and I get the damn boom faction HGEs. I've found a few systems in civil unrest with nothing else but bust, but no damn HGEs at all even after hours of rechecking every 5-15 mins (just rescanning the beacon, which has worked in other systems; logging out to main menu or exiting game entirely between rechecks)
Yeah, that's definitely one of the most rare of them all - if you need less than 16 it's much faster to go get 100 imperial shielding and trade down as that will give you 16 of them and you can get that many in under 20 minutes.
Thanks CMDR. Hope to see you back soon.
It's a shame HGEs are still broken though. I finally found an Outbreak HGE in an Outbreak-controlled system, and all I found were a few Proto Light Alloys.
I found pharmaceutical isolators, there is only 1 and a bunch of lower grade mats at any given time, not worth it. Collecting 100 of these would take me hours not 15 minutes.
@@geist-2111 What signal source were you in? I've never seen anything but G5 and G4 mats spawn in a HGE so I'm guessing that's not where you were maybe? I've had many comments just today of finding pharmas just fine - remember this stuff is highly variable.
Remember the state of the individual faction in that system is what will give you what your looking for. You need to find high grades with the signal source belonging to the faction in outbreak. You can go to a system that's In boom, and find military alloys/supercaps because a lower faction is in war/civil war, although the leading faction is in boom.
I found another Outbreak-controlled system yesterday, and all four HGEs were War HGEs (maybe the populalation is starving because the soldiers are eating all the food). The controlling faction should have the majority of HGEs.
@Bran
I haven't tested this quite enough myself to draw a firm conclusion (no hurry, and anyway it's continually evolved over the years, and likely will continue to do so) but yeah, it does seem like the whole controlling faction relationship-to-HGEs may not be perfect. But again, not certain. Maybe I'm just not sampling widely enough, that's usually where any statistical analysis failure occurs, right?
It's clear that this guide was written before the Fleet Carrier patch! :-) I went in search of these mats and really didn't need to use the FSS to find the planets I needed. I found 48 Fleet Carriers in the HIP36601 system, in orbit around each of the 4 planets like stacks of Pringles, 18 Fleet Carriers in the Outotz System, stacked around the 2 planets there and 41 stacked around or near CMDR Jamesons crash site. A lot of people have a lot of money to spare :-)
There was one other thing I noticed. It may be a bug or intentional, but I found that with the materials collection, the bin says max capacity 100 but if you go over 50/100 up to 100/100 and log out and back in again, your capacity has gone up to 150. Sadly this doesn't work if the bin capacity is already 150, nor does it work on the data collection from CMDR Jamesons' crash site.
I might have done something wrong, or maybe the game has changed, but I self destructed and respawned no where near ray station (even though I had just come from there).
I also lost about 500 mil worth of exobiology data I was holding onto for rep grinds.
So yeah, don't be a dumbass like me and just take the safe trip back probably.
Yep. Changed with an update at some point.
This is a great video. I have been playing for a few months now and Ive started unlocking and finally using some of the enginners. I was making list of all I would need to get the G5 blue prints plus some experimental effects. Ive dabbled a bit with the trader and used what materials Ive aquired through missions and mining so far. Thanks for this . This is exactly what I need .
High grade emissions source isn't reappearing for me after logging out and back in.
Are you logging out to the main menu? or quitting the game entirely and going back to the desktop? Its needs to be the latter
@@shoutingstone Good to know. I've been doing the former so that might be the issue,
Just a very helpful tip, there are carriers around these few spots WHICH CAN HELP YOU RESTOCK AND REPAIR YOUR SRV. You don't have to go back to the Bubble in order to repair or restock your ship or ammo to harvest those materials. Just check whether are they for all docking access and you will be good to go. I had to leave HIP earlier cause I was running down to 600 rounds on my SRV and only realized that I can restock my ammo at Outotz.
You can synthesis SRV Ammo and Fuel with sulphur and phosphorus and repair it through synthesis with iron and nickel. This way you can still use the self-destruct way to get back to the bubble.
So I traveled to the HIP 36601 system to get raw materials, and as I got there I noticed something weird. I couldn't find C1, C3, C5, or their moons. In fact, I couldn't even find more than one star on the system map,,,
Then I realized I had accidentally traveled to HIP 33601, around 1700lys away from HIP 36601.
Cmdr Exigeous, I stopped playing 2 years ago because of the material and engineering grind... This video might have just help convince me to start up again, I used to always follow your tutorials! Another excellent video 😎🙏👍
The dev's have made so many changes that it isnt as bad as it use to be. Between the material trader and videos on YT the game is much much better...
As Cranky says the game really has come a long way in that time - I mean right now the speed record to reaching Elite in trade is 7 hours 4 minutes. So yeah, things are better, no where near perfect but better.
@@x...CrankyOldMan...x that is great to hear man!! Yeah Elite 2 years ago was ridiculous for the grind. I didn't mind putting in the effort for the learning curve sense of achievement.. but jeeez! Thx for yr input dude 😎👍💪
@@Exigeous that is music to my ears.. yeah I'm feeling the calling again.. and I'm still loving yr videos dude 😎 Davs hope etc plus many others. Great work Exigeous 😎💙🙏
@@billymkirkwood4956 yea thx.. my advise is to "pledge" to Aisling Duval right away and earn ur Prismatic Shields. and you will get a great head start for all your adventures...
Links to the ship builds have died, apparently.
This is a good tactic for manufactured materials, i cant come close to 100 in 15 minutes after factoring in the re-load game time as well but this is still a very fast method.
For the most part good video, but it would have cost you less time to just say where the Jameson crash site is, than to tell us to go digging through all your videos to find it
The video is linked directly in the description
THANK YOU! I've clearly been doing this grind wrong, and this helps a lot.
A recommend ship builds to farm engineer materials is a FULLY ENGINEERED ship with Guardian Modules? Wow ok, guess i'll just magically turn my ship into fully engineered and go farm the mats for fun then.
You're videos are really great man. The format and the writing are top notch. thank you.
And this... Just convinced me to not do any of that. I'll just collect and trade as I go and maybe I'll use some of these methods to complete the needed materials...
Good luck
For me the grind really kills the desire to play for fun. The log out/log in mechanic destroys any immersion.
@@larryyocum2904 You and me both, what got through Frontier's head to think this level of Grind is fun ?
I haven't even done any engineering yet 😒 the time I get in-game is limited so I make the most of what I get by mining to buy what I want (I have been playing since not long after release and only just bought an Anaconda) now I'm saving up for a FC & Corvette but the grind is real and this vid has made me realise I could engineer reasonable easily (thanks COVID-19 for giving me more play time)
"The entire process will take about 4 hours..."
...aaaaand I'm out. Crap like this is why I gave up on Engineering years ago.
I've used EDDB to find systems in the proper state for HGE and only found two. I forgot to log out and back into the same mode. But it seems hit and miss to actually find a system with HGE. The video is solid though. Glad to see new videos from you. Cheers!
Absolutely the spawn rates will be HIGHLY variable, sometimes I get nothing for 30 minutes then I'll find a system with 5 HGEs. Usually I average finding one about every 15 minutes or so.
@@Exigeous Thank you for the confirmation on the HGEs. This has been a game changer for me. Much appreciated, as always!
i swear the DEVS are related to my ex-wife, they just want to drain the life out of us until there's nothing left.
Okay, this is the greatest comment I've ever gotten - as I think your ex-wife and mine must be really close friends. Is she also a massive bitch??? :D
Just got into this game last week... thinking about getting back out already after completing the mining grind.
@@Exigeous their all sisters, every last one of them. they won't admit it, but i know they got some kind of secret hand shake.