6 Important Checks you need to do before buying an RTX 4090/80 GPU | Can your system handle it?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ต.ค. 2022
- The release of the RTX 4090 & 4080 GPU's offers the promise of best performance, but can your system handle these new larger & power-hungry cards. In this video I provide 6 checks you need to do to avoid disappointment and unnecessary expense.
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I’m still undecided…4090 or 4080 (16Gb)…? What are you going for?
4090. FE or iChill Frostbite as it already has a waterblock fitted.
you only live once
4080 16gb from msi
If you believe Nvidia's graphs on flight simulator the 4080 and 4090 on DLSS3 with AI frame generation is almost identical. You really can't make that decision until we see benchmarks without DLSS3/AI frame between 4090/4080 in cockpit, in a dense city.
YOU GOT THE 4090 IT IS double the performance OF 3080 you might make it out of reprojection with DLSS MFS IT will be glorious get it.
Thank you for this valuable information! I have been waiting months for this card for Microsoft Flight Sim 2020. (Big Fan of yours.)
Very useful video Mark, thank you. I’m not in the market just yet for a new gfx card but will certainly consider the points you have made when I do.
Very helpful! THANK YOU! :)
Oh snap! i just found your channel by looking for Sim video's the other day... found you again looking for cards to buy haha
Great video, thanks. I’m building my first ever MSFS PC and going for the 4090 Founders Edition.. can’t wait 🙌
@Alan Millbrow did you get a 4090 FE from scanUK? I missed there first drop so now having to waiti for the next one. Good luck with your PC biuld. 💷💷
Excellent review!
Thanks Mark, going to wait a while, with the implementation of dlss/ new drivers and better utilisation of the gpu and cpu, I'm getting good frame rates with my 3090 in msfs in 2d and vr.
MSFS VR will see a huge boost with 4090 🔥🔥
I am happy with my RTX 2080 Super with 32 GB RAM for the time being; thanks for the info Mark!
Me as well
You need a 4090 bro
I am still rockin a Sapphire AMD Vega 64 Nitro+ … and she runs… runs…. runs… (yeah of course not at 4K at 144Hz but I do not need that - who really does xD)
Cheers, keep the blue side up!
Pepe
I have a 2070 super and happy. With the latest update with the sharpen slider and resolution slider I can get it as smooth as I need to and looks great with dlss off dx12 on. Dlss is a blurry mess for me. I think I may update my CPU before the card because I could double my cores and I think dx12 is supposed to work with that?
Mark, The biggest and most important point is the PSU... If you are going to shell big bucks to purchase a 4090 you can afford to get the correct PSU with the dedicated 12v PCie5 plug... The 4 x pig tail adaptor the GPU suppliers are supplying with the card is just not good enough. It not only looks very untidy but there is a potential for failure.
and probably 6 installments from the bank , so you paid it off next year in the summer
they scrapped the 12GB btw
and the 4090 seems to draw about 280-350 W at full load in most clips i've seen , so plenty headroom for OC
my guess is a 750W would be good enough for 4090 and 4080 alike
Any chance for a future video with your card recommendations for Flightsim? Running a 2070 super at 1440p w/3 monitors. With the new improvements to DLSS and future AMD updates, curios to see if the more expensive cards are no longer needed. Thanks!
Very useful video. JayzTwoCents said recently about the 4090 that some tests MELTED the cable around the plug on the 4090 itself... Pretty scary indeed! So far, I am happy with my ASUS Tuf Gaming RTX 3090, so I have no intention to upgrade. But it's interesting to know about it.
Tests released today show that 4090 is less power hungry than 3090 on average
@@fredericfamso9572 I saw that too, but nonetheless melting cables is exclusive to the 4090. At least on a few cases.
I didn't know there were two versions of the rtx 4080. I just bought my pc 10 days ago thank God that my PC has the 16 GB version. I bought the Alienware Aurora R15 at my bestbuy (I7-13700KF 16 Ram and rtx 4080 16 vram)
The 12Gb 4080 was withdrawn from sale by Nvidia and is now effectively the 4070
A useful modification to the power cable would be to make the card end of the cable as a 90 degree connector so that there would be no need for a sharp bend to stay within the case front cover.
Couldn’t agree more. Some cards however do have quite a prominent bevel .
I'm running a 4080 on a 650w power supply. It runs completely fine. I do have a very high quality power supply though. A Seasonic ultra prime titanium.
If you're building a new pc, you should definitely get at least the recommended psu wattage. But If you're upgrading and you have a high quality 650w, you should be fine as long as you don't overclock an/or have a power hungry cpu too.
Very good Mark, thank you. I do think over clockers will have bigger PSU than the recommended by Nvidia but for the rest of us the required system power I.e. 850W for a 4090 will be enough. Remember most of us will be using PCIe 8-pins and while these can have 4 cables, you only need to use 3 which will limit power draw to 450 (150 per connector) which as it happens in preliminary tests from the FE card from GamerNexus is more than enough.
Yes, but 3rd party cards like Gigabyte and MSI are recommending 4!
@@SimHangerFS Mmm LOL I'll have to see some more real world tests, I believe they are coming but I have my doubts more limiting 450W will have a practical impact in real world gaming use, maybe benchmarks. Thanks, Mark for the reply.
I think i'm going to use what i have. I just built my computer last year or so with a 3060TI founders and 32mb 3600 and it works great for flight sims and work .and I'm trying to keep the electric bill down..LOL
I am happy to say my PC Checks all the boxes to install the 4090 card . A few months back I even purchased a ROG Thor 1200 platinum edition which seals the deal. Hopefully here in Stockholm they will be on the shelves soon. I like you Mark have a over size box but not so much in need of a cleaning 😊
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Mark, just a update on my 4090 GPU I have opt for: MSI GeForce RTX 4090 SUPRIM LIQUID X due to the smaller size and the cooling unit combined into a nice package. Since it promises to be a GODZILLA with it breathing heat that built in water cooler just makes since… any thoughts.
You do know your making the wrong videos . Does anyone even have a doubt this a wild life observation of a species being described in a habitat . Love your voice . I’m telling you, video any animal and talk about it . Welcome to National Geographic ❤
I've just got 3090ti at half the price of release earlier this year. Personally im going to wait for the ti version and 6 months after release due there will be a price drop. 40 looks good BUT very expensive for what it is, especially you can confutable buy 4-5 Xboxes for one card. I may also see what amd are bringing to the party. but good vid. I feel Navidia are being very cheeky with the pricing and im voting with my non buying.
Order the 4090 with a Gigabyte GP-UD1000GM-PG5 PSU
I'd say the MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR is what country you're currently living, the electricity cost / taxes etc. On the long run in some countries the 1.9k can easilly become a 3k cost GPU in the 1st year if you're running it OC under load 14h/day ESPECIALLY in an era which gas taxes and electrical bills skyrocketed due to Putin and Ukrain situation
The reconmendation for Asus is 1000w for the all system. Nvidia indicates the power required on’y for the gpu. So in real Nvidia recommend in fact 450 + 500 for the system so nearly 1000w as well. Anyway a reasonable customer would put a 1300w just to be sure, the most fortunate will put a 1600w.
Hi Mark.
I want to choose between RTX 4080 and 4090 for MSFS.
I want to play in 4k and maximum graphic setting (and don't want to play in 8k).
Is there any significant difference between them for example 90 and 60 fps or they are almost the same?
I replied via Facebook
@@SimHangerFS l couldn't find your answer. I' havent used facebook for many years. I'd be happy if you could answer me here. Thanks
@@amirghanbariha8912 the 4090 offers about 15% more fps than the 4080 at high/ultra settings. 4080 will run it well, subject to cpu, memory etc. faster is always better though.
@@SimHangerFS Thank you very much Mark. Then I'll go for 4080 asus tuf.
4090 asus tuf is 77% more expensive then 4080 asus tuf in my country!
People needing one kidney? Check!
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I don't water cool myself, but I'm pretty sure your radiator hoses should not be at the top. Any air in the system will gather at the hoses.
My cpu water cooler is side/front mounted, not top.
@@SimHangerFS Yes, but the hoses are at the top of the radiator.
@@SimHangerFS th-cam.com/users/results?search_query=How+not+to+install+an+all+in+one+cooler
Everything past the check except for my bank account
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the only important check you need to do is ask yourself whether you're satisfied enough with your current setup. unless you're running 5 year old hardware, the answer will most likely be yes, therefore you shouldn't buy rtx 4000.
Excellent video covering all the important considerations however with respect to power requirements I wouldn't rush out and buy a PCIE 5.0/ATX3.0 power supply just yet. Have a look at Tech Yes City's discussion on his 850W power supply here : th-cam.com/video/_DNohsGvco0/w-d-xo.html
Sounds like I need new everything. Sigh.
would buying ANOTHER PSU do the trick ?
use that JUST for the GPU.
It wouldn’t fit in the case and there would be a power feed misfit to motherboard. So no it would not work in my opinion.
Getting two things out of the way. We now Nvidia fan boys will buy a RTX4090 and Nvidia cards are always better for Flight Sims, becasuse they always has been.
However I think Nvidia are mad, creating a 1 foot x 6 inch GPU card, to allow for enough cooling. Requiring a new PSU rating of 800 - 1000 Watts, to run
games between 10-30% faster and smoother. In a period where energy prices have never been so high!!
Because the specs of a RTX4090 PC, will be replacing the heating and radiators your room. Intresting if the cards thermal throttle in standard summer tempatures?
Wasn't the RTX3000 serise cards create with energy saving in mind???
But before we all jump on the hype-train, this isn't the worse of it, That pricing model, oh-boy, that pricing...tee-hee ...is simply killing off PC gaming industry, single handed...A whopping $1800 dollars RPP each (not including what will retailers/ scalpers will add on),. This is the same price of a brand new rig/ system. Which you also have to buy, just to fit this stupid card in 🤔😵💫😉 ....Lol, simply madness and not really smart business.....yer selling a few card will generate revenue. But for how long, for a card which may not fit a lot of PC's form factors? Until everyone has to drop their prices in order to ship and make something on any remaining units.
CRAZY Nvidia Crazy and not in a good way.
This is just another product pointed business or to allow for further lazy programming, ignoring any possible in game performance tweaks.
Or its for the rich, the desperate and stupid. Without consideration for anyone else.
I love Nvidia, but even I am really on the fence over this new design Nvidia cards.... Nice idea, but no prizes.
I dont think they be lower than 2 k coming time 😢 quite odd since msrp supposed to be around 1500 i saw
Anything below 1800p not worth the investment.
4080 12 or 16?
I think 16…12 is really a 4070
I am watching this video with a mixture of disbelief and pity. So glad I chose the XBox S a year ago. And switched to Mac in 2008….
Such a big and hungry product is not a card anymore. It should be sold in its own case with dedicated power supply and some nifty connector to hook it to your PC.
That idea is so intriguing that I'll guess that before long it's brought to market, probably by more than one manufacturer. It's not for everyone; were I planning a new build, the easiest way to include a 4090 would be inside the case, but there must be many thousands of gamers for whom your idea would obviate the expense of a whole new computer
What a great piece of technology and proof, that Nvidia is afraid of the new RDNA 3 lineup coming November 2022. xD
Thx for your ideas in this video. But pls -> be aware the RTX 4090 draws less(!) power as all thought and as it’s predecessor. Hardware Unboxed from down under th-cam.com/video/aQklDR8nv8U/w-d-xo.htmltime=22m20s showed it (and all legit reviewers, too) , the total system consumption of a high end system is not a problem for a quality(!) PSU (of a good brand) with 850w.
You missed two important points. Display and GPU.
Everybody should to check and think about the monitor before changing anything.
-> Refresh rate: Many use monitors with max 60 Hz so max 60FPS is needed for a smooth gameplay. Extreme gamers aside, as they should know what they do.
-> Resolution: 1080P, 1440p, 2160P - what are you using? Choose your GPU wisely, you will may be even not need a rtx 4080 (little edition) for 1440p at 60Hz or 75Hz.
At last check your CPU. The first tests showed that even the mighty AMD Ryzen 5800X3D struggled to deliver the data fast enough to the RTX 4090 monster. So new GPU alone comes often with a need for a new CPU, if the GPU is a very big one.
Solution, be careful what you buy and look on this generation RTX 3000 and especially (price to performance unbeatable) RX 6000 lineup. The prices of the first one will go down, the later one already dropped. On the continent (greetings to our friends on the island) 730,- € plus minus für a AMD 6900 XT brand new is not impossible.
(check steam hardware survey store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam )
I for myself would build a whole system incl. a RX 6900 XT if I had to spend 2000 €/$/£ or any other currency in that amount and had some money left over xD (as I would go for 1440p gaming and a nice 6800 hehe - already at 1440p and that is wonderful enough for me).
Cheers, Pepe and keep up your great work
Except for a few Nvidia fanbois, for whom the mere thought of a GPU that's not Nvidia is anathema, it seems foolish to buy a 4090 or a 4080-16 before setting how the AMD 70xx cards fare against then in rendering, power draw, and super sampling. My 3080 works great in 1440 with one main monitor. I've yet to try it in VR or with multi-monitor 4K, but I can envision needing an update when I do, and I sort of see an RDNA GPU to pair with my 5800X3D as more likely than a gargantuan, power-hungry, hot-as-a-poker RTX 40XX. We'll know in less than 6 weeks.