I bought a RTX4090! WHAT A DIFFERENCE!

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  • @Groveish
    @Groveish ปีที่แล้ว +103

    You're lucky to be a pilot and from Germany! As a poor engineer in Turkey, 4090 would cost me 6 months of income thanks to Erdo

    • @A330Driver
      @A330Driver  ปีที่แล้ว +60

      I'm really sorry to hear that. I hope things will improve in Turkey soon!

    • @sezusimulation
      @sezusimulation ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Here in Germany, you need also a couple of Month's to save the Money to buy this Grafik Card. It's not only a Turkey thing :)

    • @jmp9035
      @jmp9035 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Saving up in the UK to afford one of these on an average salary would take about the same time it's not all rosey in these supposedly richer countries.

    • @kartal2339
      @kartal2339 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Im a urologyst in turkey and i must work 2 mounth for buy 4090...thanks for video

    • @tiagofelix8998
      @tiagofelix8998 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      I'm a porn star, one movie and I get It 😂

  • @sky173
    @sky173 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Congrats on the new card! Have you tried the ' Forest enhancement mod ' yet? There are few addons to help 'control' vegetation. It helps make cities look more like cities.

  • @dikkeduif
    @dikkeduif ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Welcome to the club! Upgraded a while ago to a 4090 and 7800x3d, the experience is super smooth. :)

  • @SythsGod
    @SythsGod ปีที่แล้ว

    Been watching a lot of your videos ever since I got into Flight Simulators. I've also looked up a lot of "improve-your-graphics" videos on TH-cam and beyond, but the settings you mentioned in the beginning of the video shot my FPS from mid 60s to high 100s. Absolutely insane! I love it. (W/ RTX 3080)

  • @dtrjones
    @dtrjones ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Congrats on your purchase! I've been using a 4090 in VR for a while now and that's not using frame generation but it's an absolute game changer for VR as it makes it possible to run 2500 x 2500 per eye displays in high settings in MSFS and it looks absolutely georgeous. I had switched back to DX11, so thanks for the reminder for DX12+FG, I'd forgotten that for the flat screen. 👍

  • @mykdor
    @mykdor ปีที่แล้ว

    Congrats EMI!! Awesome video as always. Will use this as a guide while I enthusiastically await the arrival of my 4090😊

  • @tuhkathri9126
    @tuhkathri9126 ปีที่แล้ว

    Congrats❤❤ I look forward to your videos. Maybe now you can see your pilot's retinas when you zoom in 😄

  • @ae-ae
    @ae-ae ปีที่แล้ว

    Great demonstration and explanation! Thx for the video.

  • @zk9058
    @zk9058 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Happy to see your up and running with photogrammetry. Didn’t realize u had it turned off with your previous videos. Interestingly, i have a a RTX 3070 and my photogrammetry is active with most other settings ultra high and i have no issue. But i do like the idea of a 4090 graphics card. Maybe I’ll take the plunge!
    By the way, that airfield on the left when making Canarsie approach is Floyd Bennett field.

  • @bobwright8789
    @bobwright8789 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Congratulations brother! You made a good purchase for sure. I really like mine it's a huge upgrade on everything for my setup, not just MSFS. The one thing I would heavily advise caution on is the power connector on the card itself. These connectors are known to be finicky. I wouldn't add any power cable modifications what so ever, no 90-degree connectors, power extension cables, and avoid any aggressive bending or stress on the connector during your cable management. Finally I would also suggest that your 4090 have 3 dedicated PCIe cables connected to it. The card pulls a lot of power and splitting a PCIe cable can be a risky idea.
    You are also 100% correct regarding the frame generation compatibility. All 40 series cards are equipment with that option. The biggest difference is the 4090 has considerably more vram.
    If you don't all ready you might look into MSI afterburner over clocking software. You don't necessarily need to overclock your card, but it's nice to make sure the voltage is unlocked so you're able to get 100% of the card when it's needed. If you do decide you want to try out Afterburner, just make sure you get it from MSI's official website. There was a fake version of the software going around a while ago that had malicious software in it.

  • @tommysecondspace6977
    @tommysecondspace6977 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I got a 4070 TI last year and what you said. Total game changer. Had to upgrade the CPU as well because it could not keep up with the card. If I get any short stutter, it is now because the servers cant deliver fast enough when flying low in a military jet.

    • @kakitajubei
      @kakitajubei ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I also have 4070 Ti and I love it ❤ With DLSS 3.0 and Frame Generator in 4K I have from 80 to 120 FPS in Fenix A320 depending on location. I switched from 3060 Ti and the difference is amazing. If you mainly use PC for MFS then I strongly agree Frame Generator is the game changer. Sure I would prefer 4090 but its price was way out of my budget.

  • @andersdrakkar
    @andersdrakkar ปีที่แล้ว

    Congratulations on your purchase! That is the dream of many simmers for sure! At the moment I have the RTX2080 Super.

  • @omxs
    @omxs ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Congratulations on your purchase! I went for 13700k with 4080 FE for my new setup, the sim looks really awesome, everything is so smooth🔥

  • @willembont4790
    @willembont4790 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lucky you!
    Thanks for sharing.

  • @Tbonedoesfsx
    @Tbonedoesfsx ปีที่แล้ว

    Hoping I can get a 4090 too soon. Anyway I talked to you on the ground at Boston yesterday, hope you had a good time!

  • @speedbrake22
    @speedbrake22 ปีที่แล้ว

    Need to get used you flying a 320 :) hope you’ll have a lot of fun with the 4090, looks like you do!

  • @Freeben2A
    @Freeben2A ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I also switched to a 4090 last week, and I got to say, it is quite amazing (coming from a 3070Ti). Same thoughts process as you, with the addition of considering VRAM. Initially I was going for the 4080, but as games tend to use more and more VRAM, I ended up buying the 4090 as it as more VRAM than the 4080.

  • @porkwfflez492
    @porkwfflez492 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good information. Especially regarding DLSS vs TAA

  • @DanielZerem
    @DanielZerem ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wonder how DX12 will perform overtime, I saw lots of people complaining about it due various bugs. This could really help me in the future when I get a better screen, right now I have 1080p one and my 4080 just doesn't care how much I crank up the settings in any game 😂 it barely heats up to start slowly spinning its fans.

  • @redtailpilot
    @redtailpilot ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The lead-in lights are an incredible addition to JFK and the first I've seen in over three decades of flight simming! Nice job inibuilds. I agree, that is an amazing approach due to the curving flight path along the Belt (Shore) Parkway. It looks awesome to watch from the ground as well. I lived in the area for several years. Also fun flight I've flown IRL (small GA aircraft) is from Republic Airport (KFRG) to the Hudson river corridor. JFK tower keeps you below the Class B at 500' MSL until approaching the Hudson. ATC actually says "at or below 500", but I stay as high as possible! 😆It's the only time I've ever flown at 500' for any length of time....along the beaches. Fun flying, but you have to be on your toes at all times. 😂 Enjoy the 4090, it's an incredible card and gives me a very enjoyable experience in VR (coming from a 3080), with DCS and MSFS (the only things I use it for).👌🏾

  • @SirJohnPhillip
    @SirJohnPhillip ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi there. Congratulations on the new card. I have one too and had a 3090 before and the difference is amazing. With only the Fenix or the PMDG frame rates are perfect. But then come other mods, like FSLTL for instance and then you feel the limit of the card again.

    • @highaltitude787
      @highaltitude787 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ai traffic is cpu intensive, cards don’t help much. I also have 4090 and notice that as well

  • @clippervoyager
    @clippervoyager ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi Emi!! Have you tried it with PMDG 737?? I’m still sticking to TAA due to the blurring at the 737 screens - mainly the numbers. That annoys me a lot… have a nice weekend!!!

  • @owenklein1917
    @owenklein1917 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much for this. I got my pc a week ago and haven’t turned on dlss frame gen because I didn’t realize I needed to reset my pc after turning on dx12. I was getting 20-30 fps at the flytampa Las Vegas scenery and now it feels like 60+

  • @royvankan2723
    @royvankan2723 ปีที่แล้ว

    Congratulations on your purchase. That does make a big difference. I actually got myself also a Inno3D 4090 a couple of days ago, also without the RGB disco lighting. The 4090 is a real game changer with it’s 24Gb memory. In windows 11 there’s the same option in the Graphics settings. What I also did is turning off the Anisotropic Filtering in the MSFS and in the NVCP turned it on to x16. And least but not least I switched the Framerate Limit to 50%. It is as smooth it can be.

    • @A330Driver
      @A330Driver  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I certainly need to play with my settings as well. Thanks for your suggestions!

  • @roxg854
    @roxg854 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for sharing your views on the RTX 4090. Good luck with your type rating. 🤞😇

  • @FL350Aviation
    @FL350Aviation ปีที่แล้ว

    you are the only one uploading regularly and I'm kinda excited to see more of "MSFS 4000 series" videos! keep it up captain

    • @A330Driver
      @A330Driver  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's the plan! The card is a keeper for sure!
      I believe there are quite some youtubers (not pointing at any one in particular!) who simply order such a card to use it for 14 days and then return it to the store. I certainly don't intend to do that.

  • @elbapino6531
    @elbapino6531 ปีที่แล้ว

    Congrats sir !!!

  • @rakon8496
    @rakon8496 ปีที่แล้ว

    Being on the fence to buy one... thanks for the video! 💙

  • @JaketheAVGeek
    @JaketheAVGeek ปีที่แล้ว

    Finished watching this video and immediately went to check my settings… somehow all this time I thought I was using DLSS with my 4080 but I was NOT 😅 Turned it on and went from 40 FPS at FSDreamTeam’s KORD to 100+!! What an improvement! Thanks again Captain!! 🤘🏻

  • @tuningjohnny8478
    @tuningjohnny8478 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I installed my 4070 yesterday as well and what can I say. For wqhd no higher card is necessary. I can land on KLAX from Ini with FSLTL and Fenix and this brings constant 60 locked fps. By using an older 10th Gen I 9

  • @PatrickBijvoet
    @PatrickBijvoet ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Congratz on the new card. I am a little surprised that the Nvdia RTX3080 dit not work with you. Although I do not have KJFK jet, I do have Manchester, Brussels and London Heatrow and have no problems at all and everything on Ultra, with GSX and FSLTL Live traffic in combination with Justflight FStrafic. Maybe it is my SSD of other hardware which makes the difference. But I am wondering why with some people it just works and with others not.

  • @ElitistMagi
    @ElitistMagi ปีที่แล้ว

    Welcome to the club sir! 😁

  • @MrMrduke1975
    @MrMrduke1975 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gotta love that frame generation! I’m loving my 4080!

  • @bgey73
    @bgey73 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your enthousiasm is just wonderful. :)

  • @GeorgeLumkin
    @GeorgeLumkin ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very jealous!
    Not sure I’ll be able to afford this on top of a wedding and buying a house this year, perhaps a 5090 will be mine in the future 😂

  • @nexus888
    @nexus888 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The usual no 1 reason you don't get better performance is that MSFS is so CPU limited that the GPU doesn't get fully used. So frame generation is really a life safer here :)
    Apart from that you can crank up all the settings that are not CPU dependent and enjoy it.
    It varies but I found that changing the Fenix settings to use the GPU for display rendering gave me 2-3 frames more as well.

  • @jgrab1
    @jgrab1 ปีที่แล้ว

    16:00 - Cars like to drive off the highway and into the trees!

  • @gregoryl.4872
    @gregoryl.4872 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow! That 4090 and the approach were the bomb! Just awsome.

  • @paulsaunders6536
    @paulsaunders6536 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just bought one as well. Went for the optimisation default using Geforce experience. All settings on high DLSS on. Went from 40FPS with a 3080to well over 100FPS. Drops to 40FPS at busy airports. A real game changer for me. Graphics are pin sharp in 2D with DLSS on.

  • @jaeloo
    @jaeloo ปีที่แล้ว

    yeah its so nice using frame generation. Also it goes very very well when streaming

  • @ironlemon666
    @ironlemon666 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great cards! I got myself a RTX4080 and DX12 with FSR indeed gave a lot more performance. However, DX12 still has a super annoying bug with occasionally disappearing ground textures at the airports. That plus screen tearing that was a bit hard to manage even with v-sync (I don’t have a GSync monitor) made me go back to DX11. Still getting very decent frame rates with it though!

    • @matthiasschnetzler7395
      @matthiasschnetzler7395 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh, didn't know that the disappearance of the airport ground texture is related to dx12, thanks!

    • @chaophraya8003
      @chaophraya8003 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is not the DX12, but the simulator, that’s not optimized for it yet. The sim is still in beta, when it comes to DX12.

    • @ironlemon666
      @ironlemon666 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@matthiasschnetzler7395 Yep, it’s been confirmed to be DX12-mode related for months and unfortunately there’s no fix for now other than reverting to DX11. Annoying but what can we do…

  • @markcunneen8525
    @markcunneen8525 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just wait til you try a 4090 in VR. I am waiting for my Pimax Cystal, currently using a Pimax 8KX. I'll never go back to a flat sceen... I have spent years constantly twigging old computers to achieve performance and graphics, thanks to my 4090 that has stopped. - Thank's Emanuelel, Greetings from Australia.

  • @pilotraider
    @pilotraider ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks awesome! That's what I'm hoping for jumping from my 1080Ti lol. Did you buy a new power supply? I was thinking of upgrading to an ATX 3.0 PSU.

  • @Gerardius
    @Gerardius ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Congratulations for the graphics card, enjoy it! I also had a 3080 TI and recently I bought an RTX 4080 and the difference is incredible.

    • @A330Driver
      @A330Driver  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed it is! Frame Generation is just a totally different league!

  • @William_99640
    @William_99640 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a pny 4090.I am a vr user upgraded from a 3080 and its a huge difference,All the 4090s are pretty much the same so dont worry about not getting the most expensive one,The Zotac card will serve you just fine.

  • @oliverunruh900
    @oliverunruh900 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this video, Emanuel. I have replaced my 3090 with 4070 Ti and can confirm the benefits that frame generation is giving to the MSFS. What I am missing in your video are details to your settings because you can easily CPU bottle neck the 4090 by setting higher values of objects and terrain level of details and traffic options such as airport objects and road vehicles. You have not the best CPU in your system and it would be nice to see what settings are you using here.

  • @pm110978
    @pm110978 ปีที่แล้ว

    Congratulations Captain Emanuel 👍

  • @darewell7776
    @darewell7776 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should disable the sim V sync setting and enable it in NVCP as the sim one is inoperative with FG on ;)

  • @Wise871
    @Wise871 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Having the extra vram also helps. I’ve flown into a few sceneries that us up to 20gb. Not having enough vram can also cause stutters. Great card, enjoy.

    • @caribbaviator7058
      @caribbaviator7058 ปีที่แล้ว

      You must be using 4k. My VRAM usage never goes above 12-13gb. Either way don't have everything maxed out!

  • @mememachine5244
    @mememachine5244 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yup man same, upgraded to a 4090/13900ks and honestly, it seems thats whats needed

  • @RedEye737
    @RedEye737 ปีที่แล้ว

    You deserve this and more, man! Congrats! It’s my dream GPU. Mine is an old AMD RX580 that overheats daily (if not 5 times a day), where I can’t play a game and watch a video at the same time. Unfortunately I can’t fly during summer days (it gets up to 120F where I live) and can only do very short night flights. Hopefully prices will go down soon…I really miss Boeing. Keeping memory fresh with daily dose of CBT and 737NGDriver ❤

    • @A330Driver
      @A330Driver  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for your kind words! Hopefully you'll be able to sort that out one day and get flying again!

    • @RedEye737
      @RedEye737 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@A330Driver Thank you Emi

  • @ItsJones
    @ItsJones ปีที่แล้ว

    Congrats! I did as well two months ago, went from a gtx 1080 to a 4090 and the difference is insane.

  • @titelrolvertolker
    @titelrolvertolker ปีที่แล้ว

    Upgraded from a gtx 1660ti to the rtx 4070ti a few days ago, really looking forward to see the difference in performance haha

  • @panammmsy1869
    @panammmsy1869 ปีที่แล้ว

    About time! Must have for this game.

  • @virtualaviator21156
    @virtualaviator21156 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice 4k card. comes at a cost though. but if i become a full time content creator or someone like you (someday in future) testing beta versions of add-ons i could probably grab this card haha

  • @henkhugo
    @henkhugo ปีที่แล้ว

    Those signup bonuses the airlines are paying comes in handy 🤣😂

  • @heinzpilot
    @heinzpilot ปีที่แล้ว

    I upgraded to the MSI RTX 4090 Gaming Trio X and .... A huge game changer! You are correct. The smoothness of the sim is amazing now and the visual look incredible. I wen from a MSI RTX 3080 Gaming Trio card to the 4090. Well worth the money!

  • @static9726
    @static9726 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve had issues with graphical glitching on the edge of my screen on takeoff and landings with the RTX 4090 and frame generation on. Experienced this issue at all? My specs are similar to yours.

  • @ElitistMagi
    @ElitistMagi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Emi, this is absolutely hilarious, I've had 4090 for close to 6 months now, I always thought Frame Generation is tied to DLSS and couldn't be selected with TAA and was just on DX11 till now, but wow was I f'ing wrong lmao.
    Thank you for this lol

    • @A330Driver
      @A330Driver  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahaha, great it helped! 😂

    • @danilosakovic8243
      @danilosakovic8243 ปีที่แล้ว

      You spent that much on gpu and did not investigate all options for 4 months.... Oh

  • @speedie0552
    @speedie0552 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, it looks so much smoother. Especially viewing at 4k!

    • @A330Driver
      @A330Driver  ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed it does! After the recording I noticed that on my screen it was actually even a bit smoother than in the video. Guess I'll have to work a bit more on my recording settings.

  • @nickdesai6829
    @nickdesai6829 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a 4090 too now, what do you recommend for Nvidia control panel settings as I can't decide thanks

  • @deepsky3001
    @deepsky3001 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this video, very insightful. For the question of 'which RTX 4090 to buy', when I bought my RTX 3090 a while ago, I looked a little bit into that issue and found that some of the cheaper models have occasionally been reported to be having poorer cooling quality, which may lead to reduced performance. Either way, your card seems to be operating fine - congrats on your purchase.

    • @thatguy7085
      @thatguy7085 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is an Nvidia driver issue. There is zero reason a 3070 shouldn’t run MSFS perfectly on Ultra settings.
      There is a serious cache issue, not inside MSFS, that is for pre cache of scenery.
      Nvidia cache is hitting an over flow state for ALL games. Every time a driver is updated the cache is being limited to 1 gig. When it is full, the stutter begins, from read write slowdown across the video bus… this is damaging peoples computers by over heating them.
      I found I have to go and manually change the Nvidia cache from 1 gig to a min of 10 gig. I set mine to 100 gig and can use my VR… again… yes, my VR was getting stutter when I changed from a 1080 to a 3080.
      Weird right. My 1080 works perfectly, but a 3080 doesn’t?
      I also have to manually go to the Nvidia file and delete the cache files or the stutter returns.
      I have a weird feeling this was done deliberately to get people to buy a replacement card.
      They don’t have good sales right now because the crypto currency crash.

    • @deepsky3001
      @deepsky3001 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thatguy7085 Do you have a link to a manual on how to do what you described above?

    • @thatguy7085
      @thatguy7085 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@deepsky3001 it was another sim guy that figured in out. I think it was ‘nocturnal’. I’ll check.

  • @ralue3187
    @ralue3187 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, first of all, thank you for this very informative and clear videao about the GPU, looks really great. But I don't think that the dev's will stop paying attention to performance as not every user is going to be able to afford a 4070-4090. All the best for your type rating and have a nice day!

    • @thegreathadoken6808
      @thegreathadoken6808 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have a 4070, let me tell you that frame generation doesn't simply double the frame rate. If there are little skips, little micro-pauses (and it's MSFS, there are ALWAYS little micro-pauses), the 4070 isn't gonna be enough to fix that, those little skips and pauses are still there, in fact they feel even MORE grating to me. It isn't going to make your Fenix A320 that previously had you down to 15fps over big cities run at a nice smooth 30fps, the skips and micropauses will still be there ruining everything and input-lag will still be just the same as it always was, making it feel very much still like you're running at 15fps.
      You HAVE to find a way to minimize the micropausing first. When those things are not spoiling everything, THEN it's good.

  • @streamer6646
    @streamer6646 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bought a 4070 Ti and enjoy DLSS3 just like you. Awesome technique.

  • @samhh6076
    @samhh6076 ปีที่แล้ว

    You mentioned that in your former airline company you would never have been allowed to fly an approach like the 13 visual. Could you elaborate on this? why? why would some companies allow to fly such an approach but not others? Many thanks for the great content of this channel by the way.

  • @Xsocto18
    @Xsocto18 ปีที่แล้ว

    that card is a beast ! i have it too :D Hope you will enjoy it

  • @neilhenderson6602
    @neilhenderson6602 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video!

  • @ITMann
    @ITMann ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good video, many thanks. Appreciate your honesty with your thought process about why an upgrade was necessary, Also the brand you chose etc. Also pleased that you are enjoying this upgrade. Of course there are many people who cannot afford this type of card. Its where we are now with games, MSFS flight simulation etc. Software is more advanced than in the past, graphics more real and immersive. This takes a certain type of hardware to make all this run to its best. Its just a life cycle that most of us have to accept at some stage. For example the RTX 2080 Ti was all "singing and dancing" in 2018. And extremely costly !!. And while it was an excellent card because of speed and VRAM (11GB) its now begining to show its age in 2023, especially as MSFS 2020 has evolved. However an RTX 2080 Ti will give just over 30fps with a mixture of Ultra amd HIgh settings within the Simulator, it is still pretty smooth. But it may struggle flying over heavily detailed cities. But also as you correctly stated, some 3rd party developers like to concentrate on looks, and maybe not on optimisation of their products within the simulator. Also Asobo keep imroving this Simulator to some extent ( not always good at times !! ). With the 2024 version I suspect that older GPU`s will struggle especially as Asobo want to add more dynamic content that will require better hardware. A big job for many is purchasing a brand new PC, with new Motherboard, CPU, GPU etc and having to install MSFS from scratch and having to reinstall all of the Community folder content. Not to mention having to install content that is not in the Community folder, like some of those other programs like FSUIPC etc that may not reside there. Many of us have Gigabytes of content !! lol !!. its a huge job to reinstall all on a new machine. Anyway I digress !!. Enjoy your new upgrade, and thanks as always for your excellent content.

  • @berzerker4998
    @berzerker4998 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your next step is the 7950X3D :) Frame generation does double your performance, but it's highly dependent on your base FPS, i.e. whatever you get before adding Frame Generation into the mix. Your 9900K is probably really struggling here. If you look at the debugging FPS window in MSFS (which always shows the *pre* Frame Generation FPS stat), you'll probably see you're limited by "mainthread" which is the CPU. Upgrading to a 7800X3D or 7950X3D will greatly improve your base FPS, which will then get doubled by Frame Generation. Just make sure you get some nice EXPO-supported 6000MHz CL30 RAM with it (Trident Z Neo (Neo specifically)) are a great kit that will work just fine)
    Deciding which GPU to get really comes down to your specific system, if you're heavily CPU limited, upgrade to any 40-series won't improve your framerate outside of turning on frame generation. Combining that with a better CPU will improve both your base frame rate, and frame generation will double your frame rate.
    If you upgrade to a 7800 or 7950X3D for example, a 4080 will basically be good enough for getting similar performance to what you're getting, because the GPU is so good that now you're CPU limited. Just about deciding what to get.

  • @ColinM9991
    @ColinM9991 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I too fly with a 4090. Frame Generation is by far one of Nvidia's best technologies in recent years, it's fantastic. I do have DLSS off in a majority of games due to the blurriness and artifacts.

  • @davekreskowiak3258
    @davekreskowiak3258 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just a heads up. If you get crashes mentioning the graphics card, turn DX12 OFF. Those crashes will go away.

  • @tomstravels520
    @tomstravels520 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought a 3070TI about a month before 4000 series was announced. Made a difference from 1660 Super but really need to upgrade CPU now

  • @countryflyboy8255
    @countryflyboy8255 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ohhh emi you shouldn't be planting seeds in my head like this!

  • @JohnVanderbeck
    @JohnVanderbeck 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I find it interesting you see such a difference. I have a 3090 right now and 90% of the time I'm being limited by the main thread on my Ryzen 7 5800X3D CPU, not my GPU. I pretty much have everything on the GPU side set to Ultra with no effect on perf, but need to turn down CPU heavy things like traffic

    • @peterpickguitar
      @peterpickguitar 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ya but can you use 10 degree flaps ?

  • @trin162
    @trin162 ปีที่แล้ว

    02:20 It also doubles your Latency when one has ai traffic (FSLTL) turned on though. YSSY, EGLL,KLAX (the worst) al giving 120-150ms and I don't know how to rectify this. Kind regards, 4080 owner with i5-13600k. Oh and I get screen flashing especially in the night and low light.

  • @JoanManuelG25
    @JoanManuelG25 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The level of detail on that runway is insane.

  • @timhendrik7207
    @timhendrik7207 ปีที่แล้ว

    Next to HAGS it is also important to make sure that ReBar is activated

  • @Ipb79
    @Ipb79 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Very nice upgrade captain! I think that your micro stutters might be due to your CPU. Cause in order to really take advantage of a 4090, your CPU needs to be recent, otherwise you can experience bottlenecking.

    • @jsawyer1181
      @jsawyer1181 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is exactly true. The 4090 is a very demanding gpu. I was running a 13600k and even it was causing a bottleneck. I upgraded that to the 13700k and the lagging went away.

    • @trin162
      @trin162 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jsawyer1181 i5-13600K x RTX 4080 here. It's been a pain but it's finally running smooth even with full traffic at most airports aside from KJFK/EGLL/YSSY and the worst, KLAX. WHile I still get good frames, the lag is killing me with latency far above 100ms

    • @pm110978
      @pm110978 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just upgraded from the 9900k to the 13900k Captain 👍

    • @danilosakovic8243
      @danilosakovic8243 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      7800x3d is way to go for msfs

    • @jsawyer1181
      @jsawyer1181 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@danilosakovic8243 only issue I’d have is the boards melting and ruining the chip. I’m sure that’s going to be fixed. But it’s also just very slightly faster than the intel 13700k from what I saw. Like only a few frames. Is it a bigger difference in game?

  • @jordancollins7714
    @jordancollins7714 ปีที่แล้ว

    TAA plus Frame Generation is basically the best you can get in MSFS on my 4090 anyway.

  • @chulchue2619
    @chulchue2619 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am new to flight sim and was expecting so much better. the rolling pixelization in the foreground was so unrealistic.

  • @gc0907
    @gc0907 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, I bought an RTX4070TI after a 3080TI, and the frame generation make a big difference! More than 60 FPS on 4K ULTRA settings, with the PMDG 737 and the Fenix A320, in bigs sceneries airports!
    The only issue I have is that I couldn't use the Nvidia filters with frame generation, the sim crash!!
    (I have an I7 9700KF CPU)

  • @channelvr1293
    @channelvr1293 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Got a 4090 too, but now also changed my cpu from ryzen9 9595 to a 7800x3d again a huge difference ❤

  • @yannis650
    @yannis650 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Emmanuel, I am on a 4080 and I was very annoyed by the stutters you mentioned when moving around fast. That is due to the frame generation. I turned it off and switched back to DX11 and still get a decent fps around 50 with my card. With your card you should definitely get 60+ which is enough for a smooth experience.

    • @gtafs3
      @gtafs3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a RTX 4080 and I don’t have that problem maybe your ram is on the limit , try to turn off the traffic and use a traffic addon they are very very ram heavy

    • @yannis650
      @yannis650 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gtafs3 Thanks but this is regardless of traffic. With the exact same conditions, frame generation produces this “lag” and jumping when panning around fast with the mouse.

  • @Consequator
    @Consequator ปีที่แล้ว

    You seem to be getting about the same performance as I'm getting on my 3080 while running in 7680x1440. On my pc the 10920X CPU is the bottleneck according to the MSFS stats.
    I think your fps issue might have been related to recording ? GPU accelerated recording has a very big impact on frames.

  • @fernandop7185
    @fernandop7185 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now you only need an HDR capable monitor for the ultimate experience. It improves image a lot.

  • @rouvi58
    @rouvi58 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hab ich vor ein paar Tagen gesagt du bringst immer das passende Video? Ist wieder der Fall, kaufe auch bald eine 4090^^

    • @A330Driver
      @A330Driver  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Das nenn ich timing 😂

  • @jacquesloveridge30
    @jacquesloveridge30 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, a lot of people talking about how much of a upgrade 4090 from a 30 series card is, meanwhile I’m out here on my 1660 struggling to pull 15-20fps on med-high or even less at some of the busier airports. Would love a new gpu but got too many things to sort out before that. Sure the graphics are nice and all, but this frame rate takes me back to playing fsx on my old laptop.

  • @spediegunz
    @spediegunz ปีที่แล้ว

    Congrats now it’s finally time to go back and vr another chance

  • @Mattribute
    @Mattribute 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great example of frame gen!
    I wonder if having more than 12GB of ram is meaningful? If FS2020 is trying to use, say 12.6GB of VRAM and you have a 3080Ti, it’s a mess. Having *almost* enough ram is frustrating.

  • @kashiffcollins5554
    @kashiffcollins5554 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome Still using my GTX980 these are too expensive to get ill wait til im 60 to get that

  • @typhoonul985
    @typhoonul985 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    manuel.the biggest problem of the simulator is that it does not take advantage of the hardware, on the 4090 that I also use it maximum at 60%

  • @photoeducationbydaniel
    @photoeducationbydaniel ปีที่แล้ว

    It's odd as I have super smooth frames at ultra on a 2.5k monitor with the 3080ti with the ini JFK - Perhaps my CPU is influencing things too. I still pick up stutters on your video and here's how you can get rid of them 1) Turn on V-sync 2) Turn on 50% monitor refresh and you'll experience even smoother performance

  • @hkr4life
    @hkr4life ปีที่แล้ว

    when the video update about the 747 WT avionics?

  • @madsib5187
    @madsib5187 ปีที่แล้ว

    The used runway looks so authentic. Even though I do have Rex Global Airport Textures installed, it does not look as great as here. Which addon do you use, Emmanuel?

    • @f0rce593
      @f0rce593 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's just inibuilds jfk

  • @chrismarty2663
    @chrismarty2663 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Guys, what Nvidia driver do you use with the 4090 ? I just installed it and have crashes issues.

  • @kennykanada
    @kennykanada ปีที่แล้ว

    My 4090 took some tweaking to get it best with my 12900. Simply cannot fly NYC with Samscene, LGA, FSLTL and real weather addons in VR. It’s still horrific. With this new driver, I’ll try these 2D settings in DX12 (hopefully no ctds) and see if it improves the VR experience. Thx!
    UPDATE; I tried these exact settings and immediately got CTD when starting a flight! DX12 is the culprit, even with this new driver. Back to DX11 and all is well (but only around 30-45 fps). Oh well.

  • @AGRANT716
    @AGRANT716 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I keep saying that i wont pay that much for a graphics card, but i find myself inching that way.

  • @Mikinct
    @Mikinct 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is that add on kjfk airport that has 13l runway approach lights leading toward runway?

  • @PendemiGod
    @PendemiGod ปีที่แล้ว

    see its also the cpu thats making the real difference and yours looks way smoother and beautiful i got the 5800x3d with the 4090 it could also be my mother board and ram but i get shutters if i have the distance and quality cranked i also have 3 monitors so that may impact too im thinking i need the intel yeah man that cpu is what i need i never noticed them ground light tracers in my nyc either and no shutters on your approach beautify its 100% to go intel after watching this!

  • @ricardovilereg
    @ricardovilereg ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi! Do you think 4070i will run MS2020 LIKE THE 4090 smoothly too? or would you recommend 4090?