We're gonna need a bigger case... RTX 4090 size comparison
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- I finally got my hands on the RTX 4090 FE and RTX 4090 Strix... bottomline... we need a bigger case!
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If you showed me this even 5 years ago, I would think its a prop off a children's live action TV show where one of the characters is building a computer.
Consumerism has become a cartoonish endeavor.
Unlikely, a child wouldn't be able to lift it.
Where
this
I would have thought it was a new console LOL
We're slowly regressing back to the days when computers were the size of the room.
Except then, the computer was literally the size of a room. Now, 90% of the room would be the cooling solution and 10% would be the computer.
@@GGigabiteM lol. Can't complain about the heat in summer now, can you?
Right, and your water cooling looks like a hamster habitrail habitat.
You can only make computer circuits so small. We've already reached that point. Its why cards are getting bigger.
@@LordsSky Yeah, I know. I think we're coming to the end of Moore's law. Though computer will continue to grow more powerful, but not its size. Unless new innovation is found. I'm putting my money on graphene.
this is ridiculous. Just imagine the size of the 5090. At this point, engineers over at Nvidia are going to have to find a way to get more performance out of a smaller GPU, as GPUs literally cant get any larger.
That's gonna be the next "new and innovative" thing. More power but smaller than ever! I can already smell the marketing. Wish I could just fast forward through all this clunky BS to the future for that 🤣
@@onexlifeonly132 haha, you know it
bigger than PS5.
"as GPUs literally cant get any larger."
Engineer: Hold my PCB.
They can and have. The actual GPU of the 4090 is smaller than the 3090, 3080 and the 2080. The card itself is huge because of cooling requirements, not for processing power
That is a MONSTER. I was hoping to find a video about video card size history, but this will do it for now
Same. Was tryna find a comparison video but instead was pleasantly surprised.
Man it's so cool those companies are putting so much effort into the right to repair movement. if it stops working you can swap a 140fan right from your case and replace it!
HahahahA
This deserves more likes 😂
You sir, you win for best comment of the day!
The RTX 5090 will be used as a PC case. There is going to be enough space inside to install mother board, and all the components. :D
And it'll debut with a $10,000 MSRP
This is pretty wild. Going bigger and bigger kind of just leads me to believe that Nvidia isn't dropping all that much better of cards or making jumps like they did with the initial 10 series introducing the Pascal architecture.
Gotta keep up with RDNA somehow
They're probably hitting performance envelop limit within the power so no longer seeing huge jumps at the same wattage so as you said they have no choice but to dump more power.
They are stucked at some point with today silicon chips and also 32bit apps are a massive brake. If we want more effective HW, we have to bury entire PC standard and bring something new, something more similar to ARM or mobile Apple CPUs and also switch to carbon chips is needed. But that would mean 0 compatibility with older software and games.
ARM isn't innovating since it as well uses 32bit/ 64bit , ARM mainly uses 32bit. The ARM are however smaller and uses less energy and reached 2 nanometer scale.
@@Pidalin with how cheap storage is nowadays I don’t know why we just can’t transition into having two copies of windows on a single drive, a new efficient modern windows and one for legacy purposes.
If we also account for the PCI-e dongle/cable that needs to be attached to the GPU for obvious reasons, what kind of Width should be the minimum in a case to fit it Horizontally?
you mean the 16 pin power cable?
@@johnmachter40 yes
atleast 2 bananas long
If graphics cards keep getting bigger and motherboards keep shrinking, one day you might be able build a whole PC inside of a graphics card. Ooh, now there's a special episode!
I was about to say the same thing. Soon, the graphics card will come integrated with a MB, case and cooling.
That’s some Rick and Morty shit right there 😮
Imagine the scene when you installing CPU, RAM, SSD... on the RTX 9090 manually.
@@XhI8ZIRWnaVC1hVsVZ7VSa - Actually, if they put a CPU and shared RAM inside, we could just add M.2 storage and have a working system.
I wonder if we will ever get hotrod cases
Cool the GPU by sticking the blow-through fan out the side of the case...
I just think it's hilarious that we keep getting smaller and smaller cases, motherboards, coolers... then this Strix 40XX card happens!
I could probably put three times my previous motherboard on that thing...
you dont need bigger cases for the strix if you just use vertical mounts!
Who ever can even afford to buy a 4090 can afford to buy a new case lol.
I am have the feeling that some of these cards will just break. They only hold on the PCIe and 2 slots. I often had the feeling that my 2080ti doesn't hold that well and my 2080ti is tiny in comparison.
This is why I'm actually looking forward to 2 slot hybrid cooler cards. I usually think they're expensive for more potential problems. But man, open air cooling like this is just ridiculous with these high tdp cards.
I’d love to compare the size of the last monster to a nuc (or even use the 4090 as an external gpu 😳)
You really helped alot of computer and gaming fans. Thanks, great work
1080ti was such a good card. Beautiful, great price, amazing performance even today
Honestly, even the normal 1080 is still going wild
Yeah, until I can afford a new rig I'm keeping my old one with my 1080 TI
My 1070 is splitting the scene just like day 1 still
...and nVidia must've really hated it. The whole 20 series after it seemed a bit...ehh? with the 1080ti still around. A barely cut Titan with higher clocks, and often faster than the big sister? Just crazy. It was an overzealous answer to the Vega threat, which didn't turn out to be much of anything after all. But that move left us with this beautiful beast of a card. I don't think they'll repeat that brilliant "mistake" anytime soon, they don't like their customers that much. Or at all, really. It really is a shame. The 1080ti was one for the ages, easily on the same page as Radeon 9700/9800, 8800 GTX or the Voodoo 2 for me.
I just started buying parts for my newly bluprinted rig and I'm putting an Asus 1080ti 11GB OC into. Went for the highest performance model. Still solid
The fact that they only put a 2 slot bracket on this card is crazy
Bracket options :
1) Screws but two slot,
2) No screws, but 3 slot
Those are the only options (because budget)
- ASUS GPU R&D meeting, circa. 2022.
Probably this is meant to be water-blocked
If it is meant to be waterblocked then it is a waste to sell a gigantic cooler with it. Also water blocks are expensive enough that they can include their own custom bracket (like the EK 4090 founders one)
@@nguyenson7073 then it should be a bare card
@@CompatibilityMadness - Um, they can do screws with a 3-slot bracket.
Wow, I have not tried to build a pc in a long time, I had no idea how much had changed. Thanks for the Relevant info, along with the laughs. Keep up the great content.
same. Built in 2016, total cost half of price of a 4090! My rx470 still going strong!👍($250 I think?) Games from a few years ago run fine.. With these prices no way I'm upgrading anything!
Thanks! I've been searching how to get it and this is brilliant :D
Wow! That's really a smart design choice for the 4090. It's a 3-in-1 device; a GPU, a personal space heater in the winter, and a window exhaust fan for the summer!
Right now nighttime, 23c outside and while I'm typing this it's 27c inside. Haven't played anything all day yet. Cpu is at 34c, guess from watching youtube.
And the windows are all open... At least we are nearing winter now, unless you are in Australia.
Not gonna lie at night my whole apartment is cold af and the second you walk into my room the temperature in my room feels like a nice warm fresh breeze lmaoo
Lol, the size is for dissipation purposes the bigger the cold on the same chip of course (3080 was this big the dissipation would be a lot better for example)
Wait till you see the high energybills due to war in Ukraine....
Ugh my room is consistently near 30⁰, this card would either kill me or itself 😅. My poor 760 can't take much these days either 😭 🤣
I got an extra large full tower case a couple years back with the intention of eventually doing a custom water cooling loop in it. Little did I know that I could need the space for an air cooling build.
When I built a PC last year I accidentally ordered a case one size bigger than I wanted. Had no idea I'd need it for my next upgrade.
one day my whole room will be a PC, finally i will have the excuse to play rocket league from my brother room
I really enjoyed watching and had tons of laughs! Especially hearing the other guy laughing! Great video.
In your opinion what would be the best case to fit a 4090 without too much of a curve on the power cable?
People in 2010: Imagine in 10 years we will be able to get 4K performance in an APU !
People todays: Can't wait for the RTX 8090 the size of an entire room !
Yes indeed
i can see them making a 8090 thats the size of a full tower that you connect to your pc like a life support system. ( not joking i can really see this happening)
Haha🤣 we are going more fatter now
@@flarex10 we already have that tho
@@flarex10 "Just plug in your CPU & RAM right into the graphics.. case."
These new cards are comically large! At this rate, we will be building our future PCs inside the graphics cards themselves 🤣
GPU with a CPU slot on the backside, with unified memory.
🤣🤣🙏
We'll be back to wall mount pcs like how they started!!!
I can't wait for my computer to be as big as a refrigerator... That would definitely help on the cooling part, if computer were built inside refrigerator.
@Vercusgames "We've come full circle. But still doesn't run Crysis at 4k, Ultra settings, though..."
Mann keep your crew they enlighten the videos🫡🫡, definitely love the energy in this video🔥🔥
Would it be better to use an AIO for this seeing as it would not only benefit from it but roughly take up the same amount of space?
I love the progression in size, next generation we will be able to swap the cooler fans for our favorite case fans for more customizing 😂
yeah no kidding lmao and now they need support brackets and stuff
that actually brings up a rather cool point, what if we could do things like swap the ram on a card? or even coolers (without it being janky)? Being able to buy a chip from nvidia and put it into a card made by an aib would be pointless, but cool imo. You could customize a gpu like the rest of the system.
@@kjorndogg3244 Nvidia won't even let the board partners customize that much. No way they'd ever let a consumer do it.
Before we know it, we'll need a completely separate case to house the GPU and its cooling system. Future market: GPU Cases! 😅 Side note: anyone know why Asus opted to go with the 2-slot brackets? Looks like everyone else went w the 3-ish slots. That's especially weird considering the ROG STRIX looks to have the biggest cooler of the AIBs. That thing's a beast!
Coming in 2024... the 5090 5-slot edition!
I had no idea how huge it was till you busted out the PS5. Having one myself I now know that graphics card is monstrous
This is the first (i think) gpu that challenges my Thermaltake Overseer RX-I's 344mm GPU length limit. Crazy times
A wobbly 600-watt POWER DELIVERY connector. This is where you can skimp on build quality, right Nvidia ? Probably the first card I wouldn't put into my system even if I got it for free.
I like bonfires and all but not in my room
Case manufacturers are going to bring back front slots to hold the graphics cards level again 😂
They were a thing? For what exactly? Have a little arm on the right that can hold a card.
That would actually make sense, air intake in the front, blower style exhaust in the back while keeping that monstrosity level 🤣
Pft...
Though what about connectors? my blu-ray drive is connected via sata, afaik thats nowhere near good enough for a high end gpu.
RTX4090 should be fixed/screwed at first , then gently insert the ITX motherboard from the bottom...?
You know what this made me think of, pcs with like missive gpus sticking out the front like a fucking muscle car with its massive air vents sticking out the hood.
Based on this, the rtx5090 will have a novel convector heater form factor with a motherboard slot. You would plug it directly into the wall and it would power all the other peripherals like the CPU :D
It'll be a heater for winter months 🤣
only AFTER you have the substation installed (built) in your backyard... then you'll probably want to plan a new wing added to your house... yeah, this is getting WAY out of hand...
It will ask for a plumbing connection too...
Comes also with a portable nuclear reactor...
See I think by 6090, if they don't rethink what they are doing, it'll be mid tower size and a panel will open up for you to snap the motherboard, cpu, ram and power supply in.. case manufacturers riot in the streets.
I totally wasn't into new hardware for more than twelve years and at a certain point, it was plain to build a new system from scratch. So last year, I looked up for the latest sh*t and got me a new top notch 'everything' (hopefully for the next 12 years). I was amazed and shocked how pricey things went, how just everything lights up like a christmas tree, how silent and fast everything is and also totally accepted that nowadays a card with NVIDIA chip is large. As I found out now, it was just a ROG Strix thing :D Still I love it!
It's not just a ROG Strix thing, i have a Gigabyte AORUS and it also an absolute chonker, it's actually bigger than the ROG
I finally dumped my GTX 770 build, and got a 3080 build and still pushing Windows 10 pro. After watching this I don't know what's going to happen in another 10 years.
Great video! Yeah, super concerned/bummed about fitting that 4090 in my case. Will the card fit in mid-sized cases? Ie. iCUE 5000X Mid-Tower. THNX
I like how half this video was basically all of us laughing at how big the graphics cards were. I absolutely lost it when Jay did the boom-box skit for the RTX Strix. Good video, guys!
Now I want to see a video of everyone walking around holding these Strix cards like a "ghetto blaster".
The boombox was good, but I lost it when I saw the quiet comparison to a cup noodles box. 9:07
@@justinvanhorne9958 Sir, may I offer you some cheese to your whine?
@@justinvanhorne9958 Not sure who you're talking to, but this ain't a thread about whatever nonsense you THINK jayz has done in regards to "making progress".
Your comment just reeks of a weird and boring tangent of something that isn't really relevant to the video, or this thread.
Whatever propaganda it is that you're selling, consider us 100% not interested.
@@justinvanhorne9958 > yet it was tantalizing enough for you to jump right onto it.
Which is my prerogative that you have no business challenging the reasoning of. You are in MY thread.
> But, and I think this is the part where a shill can’t quite comprehend, “negative” or constructive criticism is generally welcomed by those that wish to improve themselves
Question; You DO realize that the act of giving constructive criticism is, by design of the nuance, giving criticism that is CONSTRUCTIVE, right? Of which, your comment offers nothing of the sort. When someone gives constructive criticism, you DO understand that it falls on YOU to give examples of HOW improvement can be made, right?
You offer no examples of what a shill actually is, and whatever definition you think you came up with as you were typing up that response is, unfortunately, not correct. That's asinine for starters. You know nothing about me as a person, how long I've been subbed to jay, how long I've used the internet in general, or anything for that matter. Once again, you've completely left the scope of this conversation, and you've instead resorted to personal attack.
I suggest you choose your next words wisely if you want to continue this conversation. Otherwise, you'll find it very difficult to continue posting in this thread.
> so I would have to disagree with your opinion sir, and offer that if you aren’t here to be helpful, keep your unhelpful comments to yourself
No, YOUR comment was unhelpful, and frankly impolite. YOU resorted to the ad-hominem when challenged on the idea, not I. You know, with you having been a user from "pretty much the beginning", one would think you'd know how to actually have a conversation on the internet. Then again, conservatives like yourself pretty much stick to your own ideals whenever it's convenient and doesn't impact you in the real world.
> Piece of advice, to fully embrace the shill lifestyle, you generally need to either be cool and collected, or an absolutely deranged psycho, you missed both pretty hard there.
I got news for you: My lifestyle doesn't revolve around your approval or opinions or what you think are "definitions" of the term. Your opinions are one thing, but unfortunately - and this may come as a shock to people like yourself - nobody is required to listen to or adhere by them. Especially when such statements of yours devolve into insults.
We've literally got to the point where putting a graphics card in your pc case has become a feature you put on the front of the box.
6:40 "that's what she said" moment😂
Love how you already called out the Adapter
At this rate, we're all gonna have to start using open air test benches as cases just to fit the components
not even considering upgrading my gpu till they start decreasing in size, cause holy crap are they getting big now, way too big
That's what she said
The issue isn't the size of the card - cause the PCB is pretty small - but of the cooler. They've overdesigned the cooler as they have thought about the 8nm chips from Samsung. Now they're using the 4nm chips from TSMC which are more efficient.
I Doubt it's even possible anymore. The companies would have to use some league leading technology in order to decrease the size, which would be extremely costly. It's not like a console where someone gets the ah-ha moment and can magically decrease it's size by 40% like with the PS2. Even now when they make the upgraded changes to the console it's not by leaps and bounds.
I'm probably going for the beefiest this generation lol, all depends on which has the best cooling. (Good thing I expected something like this and had bought a Corsair Obsidian 750D airflow)
*Not too many people remember the 1080ti Zotac AMP extreme. (At the time that thing was ridiculously massive lol)
So what?
You could also get a lower tier model with more modest power draw and a regular size cooler. AMD and NVIDIA reference designs are usually pretty decent and stylish.
The sad thing is the design with CPUs and GPUs in the past years is performance through power. When still being able to shrink the design and place more transistors on a chip, it was like same die size and power consumption, but higher performance. Nowadays, all you get is more performance for incredibly high costs, bigger dies and a lot more TDP / power consumption.
It is like the pinnacle of design is already in the past and we just throw more power into the system. Like with combustion engine cars - you can easily tune them to have more power - but at the cost of bigger fuel pumps and an equivalent amount of higher fuel consumption.
I am a bit worried, cases will have to grow bigger and bigger to accommodate the insanely huge cards and power supplies.
This trend is not nearly as "green" as nvidias trademark is.
Edit: Okay, nVidia put something nice off here. But the price is non-negotiable and way too high.
Shit take. Yeah you can buy an 800 hp V8 now, but you can also buy a 200hp 1.5 because the tech scales. When I was in high school a stock 1.5 made 70 hp.
@@shane864 it's a bit different than that. You can buy a V8 with 600 hp from BMW for 100.000€ and awesome performance or a V8 with 550 hp from Pagani - for 2 Mio. €. We actually do not have this choice right now, you only get the Pagani without the bling-bling but they even wanted to sell a 4 cylinder for a top price. At least they found out THAT was actually too much. But nVidia just does it. They charge you because they want to test how much they can charge before people stop buying their stuff for absurdly overpriced prices. The owner even said this is the way to go and it will become worse in the future (not for him, for us of course).
Thank you for posting this, I had no idea how much bigger the 4090 was over all the other generations. I know it is the most powerful, but the issues with having to get an ATX 3.0 PSU (and replace my EVGA 1000W) plus its overall size makes me think I'll join the ranks of second-hand 3080/3090 buyers.
You don't need ATX 3.0
Glad I was able to get a 3080ti awhile back.... Guess I'll wait and see what AMD is doing in the next few years. This is just insane...
Just need Intel to release their new GPU, and Nvidia to release a CPU, then they can all fight it out.
I will never get tired of saying I sold my 2070 super to buy a 3080 FE with money left over. I also saw that the 12g 4080 is performing only 18% more than the 3080 without DLSS 3, so I am happy for now.
@@flexplodin I didn't quite do that well but a little over a year ago got a 3080ti at MSRP. Threw my 1080ti up on Ebay and it went for $900 😳. Lol a card that I'd been using for nearly 3 years just about paid for my upgrade.
@@flexplodin Probably because its not a real 4080, just a 4070 but still not good in any case.
Chuckling in 2070 Super :D
When I built my first PC, I went with a Thermaltake Core X9 case because I had no idea how big the parts were and I wanted to be sure they fit. It was extreme overkill at the time, but with how things are going, it might be just right for modern hardware.
Everyone called me crazy for picking fractal design for their massive R4 case and then saying i wanted the R7 XL later. Well, now it seems that the XL may be required to even consider a monster like this.
Exactly the same thought as you.
I did well to take a CORE P8 from thermaltake
Exactly how I feel about my Antec P193, doubt it's deep enough tho :P
@@Brickokermis. im rocking a p5. We are big brain
@@oceanbytez847 I wish I had gone with fractal. I am still rocking a modified cooler master elite 430 :(
Its been a nice seeing you Mini Itx
4:48 when that gpu sits around the case it really sits AROUND the case
I've been saying this for weeks, people really don't realise how WIDE these cards are. Cases like the 4000D and such are so narrow. People won't be able to put their side panels on lol.
Can't wait to see how big is 7090 in the future
i would have said vertical mount but it's also thick so it either wouldn't fit or being too close to the glass to actually be able to push air
Yeah well i have been saying it for years so ha!
I don't have my side panel on already anyways.
I'll just place a screen or something over where the glass used to be lol
We’re about to see a renaissance in individuals and enthusiasts going back to full size tower formats just to fit the 40 series card onto their build.
no kidding ... i hated full tower pc's they are so hard to deal with you litterally have to plan your furniture around them.
@@DenverStarkey hahaha I remember those days
@@DenverStarkey Holy exaggeration, Batman!!
I hope it also means the return of metal side panels with fan mounts, and 5.25" bays (useful for well more than just optical drives). They'll have the space to include them again, so let's see it! Bring back function, a side panel fan bringing in air directly to my graphics card means way more to me than tempered glass.
hopefully it means i can fit an internal disc drive again, where are my physical media bays!!??
Gonna have to start laying cases on their backs as well unless your case comes with mounting(likely not) to support that thing.
OMG, it really worked. Thank you so much!!
The more I learn about Nvidia's new line the more excited I am getting about the AMD release.
Yeah, Jay keeps talking like the size of this card is cool and I keep looking on in horror wondering wtf he is talking about
Agreed, feels like Nvidia pulled an Intel and just shoved more crap in rather than be inventive. I hope AMD comes out with something close to 4090 at like half the size and 20% cheaper
@Husha563 doesn't mean the 7000 series will be huge.
@@DenverStarkey I mean it will use two gpus which is bound to be bigger
@@Bigboii7 sure but doesn't mean it'll have a huge honking heat sink though. there have been multi gpu cards in the past and they weren't the size of a small house.
I'm calling it. Watercooling these is gonna be sooooo beneficial for weight and not potentially ripping out a pcie slot of something
I'm glad my 3080 is water cooled, the fact that card these days are heavy enough to be bending themselves and even damaging PCIE slots is just ridiculous.
@@406Steven Right? And how big 50 series are gonna be? They should really change the technology by now.
@@viktorzeman5202 It's not as simple as you think dude. Even ps5 and new xbox has the same issue. GPUS can be small AF, the issue is cooling. It has to be big.
My 3090ti TUF oc is EK waterblocked and this things massive breh....
or just cool gpu holders will become super popular
Hey! Thanks so much for this video!
6:42 I saw that thing in a system at microcenter recently. It's absolutely mindboggling how big it is.
Can't wait to see RTX 5090 800TDP 5 slots with push-pull fan configuration.
it will probably come with watercooling only xD
Components, radiators (and fans) will be on both sides!
Naaaah.... I think that RTX 5090 will have a slot to fit an entire motherboard into and a bracket for the PSU... ;-)
They will sell the 5090 with an integrated case where you can fit your mobo and stuff
@@zdenekcizek6681 behold. nvidia is a case manufacturer now GPU is just a side gig
They have priced and sized themselves right out of the market!
absolutely right no fucking way am i buying that huge pile of shit i dont care how fast it is my 3080 is fine
It’s not garbage however I do agree there’s no point in upgrading a 3080.
@@ghost_trapz5932 What about a GTX 1060 3GB? Lol Still not upgrading! I'll snag a 3060 or 3070 in the next 6 months and be perfectly happy.
Accurate statement.
People will pay.
Anyone have any recommendations on a large case that can compensate for the cable adapter bend? I currently have my glass side panel off because the cable adapter would be pressed up against the glass and I don't want to damage the cable or the adapter on the card. I also want to avoid vertical mounting if possible.
Good, thanks for share!
After seeing the size of the 3000 series cards I bought a large case because I knew if this trend continued the cards would be enormous for the future series
Same. I bought the super tower :D But also because I wanted to do water cooling.
I baught the PC-O11 XL... The 4090 should fit in there🤣
My Corsair 5000D is laughing in full-tower😂
I moved away from full towers because I was annoyed at the sheer size of them and the noise/heat coming off of them. I'm not going back, fuck this gen and screw NVidia. Are we going back to computers that fill an entire room? Dafuq are you guys supporting this is beyond ridiculous lol
@@gamesandfunnystuff wait wut 5000D should be a mid-tower
I still love the look of the 10xx series cards, they look pretty slick. I also love the look of the founders 30/40 series cards.
great review.can you do a spec comparison on the 3090 and the new 4090 to see whats the big difference.thank you.
Ya I have the 3090 Strix with a FC Waterblock (with active backplate) and it's friggin' HUGE and I have a monster case, too, and the 3090 comes within just a few inches of where the side panel would be (if I ran one) - I can't imagine these cards getting much bigger. The 3090 Strix length-wise is also only a few inches away from hitting my drive rack in the case, and again, you can't really get cases a lot bigger than what I have unless you custom build them. If I eventually move to a 4090 I'll probably have to pay very close attention to the dimensions just to make sure it'll fit.
The founder's edition is just slightly bigger than an Xbox Sieres S console by a few millimeters. So if you can fit a XBSS in your case than you can fit a Founder's Edition.
I am crying 😂
Here's a crazy idea. Make the strix bigger and integrate the mobo functions and cpu socket and have a chassis around it with minimum cabling (like gigabyte) and you now have a chungus GPU that also becomes your pc..
or maybe just maybe actually keep improving the card instead of dropping them as soon they make them a lil better
That's called a console.
imho this is probably gonna happen. Someone's gonna build that XD
MSI could - they do mobos. xD
awesome video as always, really funny too, would you be able to get a iGame GeForce RTX 4090 Neptune for review and it is released?
Thanks Bruu
Here's hoping a 90-degree adapter is released to not only alleviate the strain of that cable coming out of the power socket, but to also make hiding it behind the card a little easier.
Just what I was thinking when I saw him plug it in. That straight plug doesn't seem like it's going to work without putting a huge bend in it.
@@justinreschke3642 Same reason I picked up one of those 90 adapters for the USB 3.0 19-pin header on my motherboard. With that obnoxious thick cable coming from the front panel of my O11D XL, I had a hard time getting the cable run to sit properly without it looking like it was about to tear the entire header right off the board.
Adapter just sits in between cable and header, no alarming sag, cable hides nice and clean behind the lower radiator.
A 180 adapter would be ideal. No bends near the connectors at all that way
at this point they can place connector on the other side of the card, clearly it overhangs further than motherboard and there will be no interference with it.
A lot of this cards logistics seem halfbaked.
I see in the future we will need Two Cases... Motherboard&Cpu Case + GPU case... crazy!
Feel like you will need stands below it or there will be to much pressure on the pins holding up that beast
Years ago I always said that electronics would get smaller in size but more powerful... here we are going bigger, soon gonna be back to having sizes of those big CRT TVs from days gone and need massive rooms to fit our 7090s in 10 years lol.
Happens if the business model of the company is based on planned obsolescence. Gotta make a new product, even if it's worse.
House builders will have to start making a GPU shelf unit built into the breaker box area, and you'll have to route it to your PC externally, lol.
Moore's law that forgot to account the laws of thermodynamics.
"In Soviet Russia..... "
Well they get smaller the coolers are biggers
Missed opportunity not comparing it to a 360mm radiator. Lian Li case at the end really put it into perspective, damn that's big.
no need, the cup noodles did it for me. 😂
Thinking about getting a 4070 ti or an rx 7800xt… ik these cards have not been announced but going off of how big gpus are getting.. will a h510i case with an aio on the side (not the top) be big enough… im newer to pc’s in general so anyone might have a good guess?
It would fit an rx 7800xt with the radiator on the side and I wouldn't bother waiting for the 4070ti it will be overpriced and worse performance if I were you with that budget i'd wait for some of the higher end 30 series cards to become cheaper
@@toby6721 thought abt upgrading to a better 30 series or 6900xt but, these newer cards (40 series/7000 series) getting higher frame rates at 4k with dlss/fsr seems like a good upgrade to me… and plus i dont really use ray tracing but it would be nice to turn on and run smoothly for the single player games.. my main problem with getting a better gpu is id have to get a better psu as mine is 650 w, i didn’t want to have to get a new gpu, psu, and case because the gpu would be to big😂
@@slite3276 if you’re really deadset on getting a new gen gpu using a 650w psu is risky business anyway id say you’re going to have to upgrade that if you want a 4070ti for sure not sure about the 7000 series
@@toby6721 yea my main thing was the case… i already figured upgrading the psu was going to be a must…
I mean there are 130 dollar cases that can fit anything. If you want to spend money on upgrading gpu you probably can easily afford a bigger case too.
Bigger cases provide more airflow as well, so that's better for your new GPU and you CPU as well.
It works! Thanks a lot.
I remember when my grandfather used to joke about my old EVGA 1070 would "dim the lights" and I took that as a joke but now there's actually a GPU that could do that and he thought it was huge and this thing makes it look like a toy in front of it
Your grand father should no the size and performance of old pcs...so the 1070 is pretty energy safeing compaired to those pcs and totally destroys them.
@@12Burton24 I mean he's almost 70 so the newest PC he owned when he worked on PCs was running Windows 98
@@zk0rned So he stopped using new PCs since he is 50. Any way older electronics used a lot of power for the output. Compaired to the performance our cards use actualy not much power.
@@12Burton24 I'm saying he knows very little about computers and explaining it to him would go over his head
@@zk0rned Ah thats your point. Alright but you have to be careful some grand fathers no much about it 😉
I've been pulling up all the specs to see what would fit in my case, the Founders card is by far the SMALLEST of the 4090s. It's wild.
That's cuz subvendors had the information they needed to make cooling solution for a 600watt tdp card when in fact it's 450.
Founders cards are generally smaller than other manufacturers
@@zzzpoma9961 4090 with a solid OC has shown around 666 watts of power. So it can for sure get up there if you want it to. And that's if no one is crazy enough to shunt mod one of these monsters under water cooling.
I lost it at 5:12 "wobbly edition" 😂
thank you very very very much, you help me a lot
There it is, the beauty itself and a legendary card in the making, yes it is expensive and large, it runs everything you throw at it. I am of course talking about the 1080ti.
lol 4080: first attach a fusion reactor...
"they had us in the first half not gonna lie"
2042 is unoptimized poop, but 1440p still creeps in and gets some lower FPS sometimes. Wish I had DLSS on the 1080Ti FTW3 so badly. Forcing me to play 1080p most of the time with new AAA titles.
Don't forget the kitchen sink
Congrats Nvidia you managed to make a top of the line card that I have no desire to own even in my dreams.
they make the best gpu's so that's to bad
@@Spectru91 shill
@@Spectru91 depends for what use. AMD make good GPU as well.
Intel is coming and it's better competition as Nvidia is getting overpriced.
@@Im_Not_From_Around_Here the intel cards aren’t competing against the 4080 or 4090 their performance is on par with the 3060 and 3070.
glad i bought a phantek lux 2 case couple years ago. The same one phil uses.
I actually think my tower could handle a 4090, but as is with the current 3090 it feels like it weights 80 pounds (I hate moving it) I wonder how much more the 4090 weighs?
4:14 You vs the guy she tells you not to worry about
Imagine pairing this with an AMD Ryzen 9 7950X, it would be a heating unit for the winter season.
that will be real problem in summer when you will have TDP of whole computer like 1 kW 😀 there should be some steam power plant next to your computer and generate electricity back from that heat
Are the new gen desktop PCs going to be heavy like servers?
do you know where you can buy the rog cards I want to but the 4080 16gb when it realeases
For those of us who are old enough to remember the graphics cards from 2005, imagine what we'd say if we could see the cards of now from back then. 😆
Lord.. I remember my TNT2, Geforce MX400, Geforce 4400ti, Radeon 9600XT (Which lasted me a bit) e.t.c. These new cards are just insane in size and price. But here I am, waiting for the Strix 4090 to drop so I can snag one for my new build.. like an idiot.
They were nothing more than PCBs with little fans on top back then.
@@Janosuk Is it like an addiction? I've never understood the logic behind upgrading every generation.
Disregard if you have an old system that needs replacing.
If someone had shown me one of these back then I'd think it was a complete PC!
Single Slot 8800GT in SLI was king for bang for buck. Oof those were the days
I think case manufacturers will start including vertical mounts as standard just for the weight concern. Unless a separate case for your GPU becomes a thing...
Gonna look like a Three PC set up, but one case is just for the GPU
Someone will fit this in a mini-itx case mark my words.
@@cmxpiipl I'm sure someone will make it work with some AIB cooler cards. Between the tech channels they've crammed so many large cards and AIOs into shoebox sized cases, but considering the zero-wasted space cases like that and the sheer size of these cards, its almost self-defeating because the overall case will need to be relatively large anyway, might as well step up to a larger easier to use case.
My biggest fear with these cards is that if that stupid trend keeps up there is no way current cases are gonna be able to withstand their weight. Sooner or later something's gonna juggle a bit too much or tear down and they'll take the whole rig with them :/
Don't see how this is not putting a lot of strain on the pcie slot
There are supports nowadays that help support the weight of the floating corner.
To be fair. Current cases are outdated since 10 years. The GPU is the hottest part of a pc. But we still use the same cases which where used when CPUs where the hottest part. Instead the air flow should be directed completely on to the GPU nowadays. It's about time to change this.
Well this is for the 4090 so far and clearly there are smaller versions of it. Normall i think ppl will go for the cheapest version then water cool it so it will not be an issue. If you dont want water cool and still want good temp then yeah its quite suck
@@sofieberger8851 I've always been a firm believer of horizontal rigs. and even more now. Not only it would really relieve the stress on the motherboard, having all fans blowing all heat straight-up would improve management a whole lot instead of what we have now. And since nowadays screens are paper-thin, you could very well use "the tower" as a support unit all-together instead of having a gigantic un-efficient block put next to it.
this is the 1st pc related video on youtube I laugh non stop hahahaha
I bought the black version of that exact Lian Li case earlier this year specifically because I wanted to have room to upgrade my GPU. I legitimately did not even consider the possibility of a GPU being too large for this case.
Nobody did 😂
What model Lian Li case is it?
Well the good news is it'll probably fit most cards outside of the Strix so you'll probably be fine. As well as 4080 and lower.
Same here dude
Well no one really did see this commung but I'm really happy I went for P500 now, these cards is like nothing for it 🤣
I never thought in my 30+years of building PCs that my ATX case would now be considered micro ATX. My first graphics card didn't even have a heatsink or cooler. Now you buy a nice big cooler and get a graphics card as a bonus.
Would that big boi fit in a Phanteks P300 Eclipse case?
I currently have a GTX 1080 Ti Duke OC from MSI in there and it's pretty snug. Still have a couple cm left tho.
currently using a thermaltake view 51 and i had moved the hdd cages from my v71 over to it since they dont make an xl version... which they need to.. even with my 3090ti and the 12v power coming off of the end of the gpu i had to remove my cages to fit my gpu in. however with that being done i can easily fit an 18in + gpu in this case. but not with a custom loop. manufactures are definitely gonna need to go back to the drawling board and normalize large pc cases again
Phils laughter always makes these videos just that much better.
no they don't they ruin it
@@badabing8152 Meh, they're super uber nerds so they laugh at shit that isn't really that funny. At least they seem happy and they're having fun lol
@@CocaineCobain Jay: breathes
Camera guy: HAHAHAHAHA OMFG I JUST CAME IN MY PANTS FOR LAUGHING SO LOUD HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@@badabing8152 Seems like you need to take a breathe
@@badabing8152 brah
Seeing Jay's reaction (and hearing Phil's) to the pure size of the 4090 reminds me of when I got a 10 lb Toblerone bar for Christmas one year. That thing was HUUUUUUUGE. Took about a month including sharing with friends to finally finish it off!
bro that sounds dumb as hell, but also really fun. I looked at it and this thing could seriously be used a murder weapon
it's nice to have rich parents
@@intriguingfacts5434 yeah having a chocolate bar for christmas is being rich…
Sheer dumb energy, congratz
@@thierryfaquet7405 $300+ for just chocolate bar
@@intriguingfacts5434 300??? I thought it was like 80? which is still stupid af for chocolate
OMG! I love you thaks for your tutorial!
Love the cup noodles shot!
I appreciate that you seem to stay down to earth when it comes to this new hardware stuff.
I wonder if we will see more case designs that have the gpu going bottom to top and routing video cables through the psu shroud cause holy smokes that massive
I had to precisely cut my case to fit the XFX 7900xtx Merc10. It also is super massive.
This will definitely fit an open test kit
Definitely one of the funniest episodes I've watched in a while... really highlights how this 40s generation of GPUs is insane.
Insane... TRASH! I HOPE NVIDIA LOSES 100% OF THEIR MARKETSHARE. NVIDIA IS TOO GREDDY. I AM ROOTING FOR AMD!
This entire hardware generation is an absurd parody. CPUs rated for 95C out of the box, GPUs the size of SFF cases ROFL
@@notsure6834 Cards aren't trash, just Nvidia and their business and marketing tactics. I was hoping AMD did good last gen as well, but let me down, mostly in drivers
@@crash7976 Best to say that... Nvidia, after seeing how much people were willing to pay for scalped GPUs, have decided to be greedier while likely overestimating the performance of their latest GPUs. Along with forsaking power efficiency for more... power and power draw.
I don't want a heater for a PC... I can deal with a small heater tho...