Amazing Video! Thank you not only for the numbers but als the emotions you transferred through the video. It’s unbelievable what’s possible these days!
a year has passed and a lot of performance optimizations happened, with my rtx 4080 super I can get up to 120 fps in 4k ultra graphics frame gen (no dlss) at default aiports with pmdg 737, and drops to 70-60 fps with inibuilds airports with the fenix a320 which is the most demanding aircraft. I feel like the sim really did optimize the performance and it looks absolutely unreal!
Thanks Dan. Tried to make it in a way that I would like to see a benchmark test done. Hopefully it’s helpful to others. Keen to see what kind of frame rate you’ll get on your 4090.
Thanks for the video i really enjoyed it. I think you managed to catch the different level of immersion by going with triple 4k. I think it will be really interesting to see this rig with pmdg/Fenix with costum airport, scenery, traffic etc and see how it works
@@g-locmedia thank you ! Airplanes being an old passion from teen age, I consider going to flight simulator but I will start small with X box maybe. Step by step. But if it gets bigger your channel will be my reference :)
DLSS on 4K is upscaling a 1080-1440p image depending on the settings. Only with it off is it truly 4K. The frame generation basically doubles the FPS with interpolation so your true FPS on 3 screens was actually half of that 15 fps lol. It’s still amazing we can at least run this type of setup with hardware which isn’t insanely expensive. I imagine the 4090 is 50% faster than this card.
I play MSFS in VR with the Quest 2 goggles and a 4060ti 16gb gpu. i get around 60fps with high settings in game and ultra settings in virtual desktop. the frame gen is awesome with the 40 series cards. and your right about the cpu bottleneck, i have an R5 5500 now and have to turn my bitrate down to 60mbs to get these results. i hope to upgrade it soon.
good video bro, i have a 4080 and 10850K, im running single PG279Q1440P @ 165hz, ultra presets and dlss on quality. getting like 145 fps at altitude. fixing to change out to 7800x 3d, keep it up!
You mention at the start of the video, 3:45, that you were experiencing the left and right monitor swapping places. I experienced the same thing happening on my setup with 4 monitors connected to the graphics card, MSI 4090 Suprim, with 3 DP ports and 1 HDMI port. With 3 monitors connected i do not have this happening. I found that by not switching on the monitor that was connected to the HDMI port when i started the computer, (so that the computer would only recognize that there were 3 monitors connected to the graphics card), and then starting MSFS, the sim would display all the windows on the correct monitors. I would then switch on the 4th monitor, the one connected to the HDMI port, and everything would be displayed in the correct position on all 4 monitors. I know that this means having to restart the computer when i want to fly in MSFS but by doing this i can avoid the frustration of having the left and right windows not being dispalyed on the correct monitor. This works for me on my system so maybe it might work for you as well.
Have you tried to get frame gen or lossless scaling frame gen to work with triple screens yet? It seems that there is a method to get resize racoon to sort of wrangle up all the monitors into thinking it is one big one, then using LS frame gen to up them all. Have you, or anyone reading this done that, yet?
I wonder how a 7900XTX would handle this. It ties with and beats the 4090 in some games, also has scaling and frame gen options, and can be had for cheaper than a 4080. I just ordered one for myself not even an hour ago, replacing my current 6800XT. I don't have triple 4k screens to test on though, I plan on going triple 1440p (just need to get that third monitor).
I'm running a 5800X3D, 32 GB Ram and a RTX4090 plus a second GPU for driving avionics screens inside my panel. Attached to the 4090 are 3 55" 4K 60hz native res. Would you go through all your windows and MSFS2020 settings? My setting are set high and am only getting 20 to 26 FPS with or without screen pop outs for avionics. Desperate to optimize my system.Thanks.
I HAVE EXACT system as you -- TURN off SOME of the shadow options and lesser effects - they suck FPS w/o giving you much back - Obj Det - 200 - LOD -100-200 or more ( depends on city / rural ) - check DLL swap for new frame gen DLLs
I think it would be fine. The reason I say this is that I got my mate who is a pc builder for advice and he said at the time I didn’t need 64gb and that 32 was good. He knows way more than me.
The 4080 and 4090 and some old gpus can run perjectors so you can even look up and behind you like VR but more realistic. But with a motion chair the perjectors and screens have to be attached to the motion chair. Since perjectors and the screens are light its easily do able.
Would like to see this with some inclement weather. I'm running an rtx 3090ti overclock and a single 50". It gets about 40-60fps in xp12. Looking to upgrade to the latest version this winter and add side screens.
Hello! Friend Wow, your setup with 3 monitors in MSFS looks incredible, I also did the same but my TVs are 43 inches 1080, I also have a panel with the controls for a Cessna 150,172,172,206,207,208 soon I will try to make a video!! The Simulation changes a lot since it is very immersive!!! Blessings Mate!!
I'm so happy for you that it worked out so well and honestly also a little quite surprised that 34k monitors could run so well with a 4080. That being said I sure wish you lived here in Southern California would love to bring over my 7950 x3d with the 4090 and hook it up to your monitors and see what kind of bump we get from that. My understanding is that from the 4082 the 4090 is actually a significant difference.
Thanks for a great video, it is hard to find HW reviews for flight sims... Did you try DCS World on triple 4K? And if you did, what kind of frame rate are you getting?
Never ever go by the total CPU utilisation percentage to work out how hard that’s being pushed, always look at all the CPU cores individually to see how hard the cores that are Actually being used are being hit. You can be CPU or Main Thread limited and still be a low percentage on the overall CPU utilisation percentage as one or two cores are being hammered.
This is really determined by the game being played. Older the game the less cores the game can utilize. Even newer games rarely use more than 4 cores. Some use 8 but more dont.
Excellent demonstration and detailed explanation given in a simple to understand format. The 55 inch televisions provides very good immersion for your flight simulator. With the current setup running at a commendable level, is there a chance that you may consider adding a full motion platform to the existing flight sim equipment in the future? Thank you for sharing your thoughts and your great work. Definitely a thumbs up, subscribed too, and will view your other videos. Aloha. K. Inouye Honolulu, Hawaii
Oh wow, that's crazy! Currently i would like to build something similar to you so i can have a place to revise checklists and emergency procedures while i cannot fly due to weather + VATSIM. I run now 16GBRAM (2x8) 3600CL16, RTX 3060, i7-12700k, 1TB SSD, Honeycomb yoke & Saitek Throttle and pedals. I don't really fancy now going full 4K, but even with 1080p, the setup should be pretty enough for the moment, right?
Triple 1080 should work fine on that setup. You won’t be able to run ultra settings but even high or medium is still very good. Obviously this is just me guessing.
@@g-locmedia thanks! Might be better if i maybe buy smaller monitors? Like 27/32“? Because at least for the sides, in the real deal you won‘t see anything anyway cause it‘s covered by the frame. And i could build a custom frame somehow. Ah, i forgot to mention i would like to make a full instrument flightdeck with modular panels, so that on the screens would be only what you see outside.
I used to have 32's. Look back on the channel and you''ll see a video call "I spent 8K on immersion" That will give you an idea of what it will look like size wise.@@rgav388
i've had now the time to check your other video you mentioned. 4080 is way out of the budget for me right now, i might look for a 4070 and update the RAM to 32 GB (2x16). Now i have even more questions, i hope you don't mind. How is the tracker IR going? Have you ever used it for MSFS? i might not have the space for full 50inch TVs, but i might compromise buying one good 55 and couple a track ir; might be fine for some while for me. I would guess that would work pretty fine, right? My current goal is to first finish the "budget" cockpit and hardware building, and maybe after going for crazy graphics card.
So Literally last night I started looking into upgrading my GPU was wondering if the TRX4080 would be a viable option as I was considering the RTX 4090 and am wanting to put together a flight simulator. This morning your video was alerted in my notifications. AWESOMESAUCE! LOL. Have not watched the whole video yet ... Maybe this is what I am looking for. I wonder what the performance characteristics are between the RTX 4080 and the RTX 4090 with respect to flight sims with the 3 screens and VR. I also want a motion chair and the force feedback yoke. Any thoughts? Have you tried the RTX 4080 with VR? Would you spend your hard earned dollars on this or what you you buy knowing what you know up to this point? Thanks for any input and information you can provide.
Hello Mate. If money is no object then sure I'd go 4090 however. From what I can see online you might get 30% more out of a 4090. If by getting a 4080 allows you to buy some other flight gear then I'd be pushing you towards that. Because the 4080 can really do it. I have a FFB Yoke and I have also tried the NLR motion Plus Platform which is superb for flight, just a little out of my reach at the moment. To finish off, I'll say that the 4080 really did surprise me, it's a great experience all round. I have no hesitation on recommending it.
1:50 64GB with 4x16GB sticks? I thought AM5 had trouble with 4 sticks of RAM? Or is that just the higher end 7900/7950X/X3D chips? I would run 2x32GB sticks, just so you could upgrade to 128GB in the future for more intensive games or picture quality updates/mods for DCS or MSFS. At least that's what I'm gonna do with my new PC build this year on AM5.
This is my goal , I have the 4070 ti super after I exchange it from 4070 super , and with a 30 days window I have ? My plan is to get the 4080 super which was the primary plan , but I haven't decided in mobo yet, I'm a Intel all life with this situation going on right now with Intel ,, I haven't found a solution as to getting a mobo ,, and pretty interesting in the setup you have ,,, 4k high frame rate? Huh , that got me wondering, .... That's my goal, thank you
You've done a really good job!. I'm trying to build a similar cockpit (to use with MSFS2024 as it becomes available) with 3 screens, maybe 40" 43" QHD, my PC is Ryzen 7 7800 X3D - VGA RTX 4080 S. I'm not an expert, and I don't know if my VGA can easily support such QHD screens, or do you think that I can buy 4K screens like yours... without slowing the simulator, video quality or get VGA overheated?. Do you have any advice ? I appreciate a lot, thank you so much!
I think stick to your QHD screens if you want to be above 60fps running medium to high graphics. I've you're happy lower than that then you could go 4k and use DLSS
@@g-locmedia thank you for you reply, I'm a novice, you mean that my 4080 S VGA can run 43" X 3 screens QLED 4K and using DLSS I can stay aroud 60 FPS at most?
Using these big screens llooks great but how do you manage in aircraft with touch screen controllers e.g. G3000 and G3X Touch ? I use pop out manager to emulate the touch screens and this works quite well. But I suppose you need to use mouse activation of the on-screen Touch controllers?? I find that reduces the immersion (cf touch screens)
Great setup. I have tried 3 screens, but my fairly high-end computer keeps crashing (I mean like, more that 50% of the time I fly) due to using 3 screens in MSFS 2020. Is this a problem for you?
Hi, I liked your review and I would like to know what 55inch screens you are using and what type input (gameport) these have. Kind regards, Jelle van Dijk, Luxembourg
So the two side TV’s are mount on floor standing TV stands. The centre TV is mounted to a bracket that’s attached to a desk. Will will be doing a sim tour soon so keep an eye out for that.
Although your screens support VRR, it may be worth testing with the frame rate locked at 60fps. With the 120Hz max refresh on the screen, it should be perfectly smooth if you were still experiencing small stutters with the higher settings.
How does this setup do with DCS? Trying to decide between three TVs and VR because I’d love to actually use my MIP in the Hornet instead of having to use the MIP rendered in game in VR.
I have a question. When you mentioned triple 4K is that referring to three monitors that are 4K each? I am learning I am trying to get the best of what I can get money may not be an object for me for the most part I just want to get the best equipment that I can I don't want to over buy when it's not necessary but I want to make sure I will get the best graphic so I can possibly get.
@@g-locmedia I do not have the PC yet. I am pricing everything I want to build a system within the next month. I’m going to be researching what kind of processor I would need that is scalable meaning that it will be powerful enough for a time to come and of course and everything. I’m not looking to cut costs. Of course I don’t want to spend haphazardly, but I am willing to spend money on some of the best equipment. That’s PC ram GPU And hard drive speed just getting my ducks in a row right now the monitors are going to be important too
I put three 4k monitors on DCS with just a 2080ti. FS2020 brought the rig to almost a stop. I plan, soon, to max a new gaming rig with a 4090 (or 4090 Super if it comes out soon enough) and 64G DDR on some sort of Intel i7 or i9 (depending on which will work fast enough to not bottleneck things.) My one major question for you is about the side monitors. When I had the three 4k running, the side monitors were not 1:1 like I see in your video. The passing scenery was distorted horribly and just went past in a blur compared to the center monitor. How did you do that?
@@g-locmedia Thanks. I fly DCS mostly. I would love to get three 55" with the proper perspective. I plan on later this month or next to get my second gaming rig maxed out and three 55" monitors sound great. Thanks for the help.
are you using nvidia surround ?? i was only able to make frame generation work when using nvidia surround were the image is distorted!! enabling it with proper multi screen drops the frame significantly
@@g-locmediafor unknown reason , mine drops the frame below ~25 fps on all screen once directX12 is enabled without nvidia surround. “ my setup is 10900k , rtx 4090, 32gb Ram”
So Iv got quite a few 4k Oleds lying around the house and a 4090 . Only thing is I only have one HDMI output from my 4090 . How do I get 3 x hdmi output ? Do I need to a display port adapter ?
Hey Bro, i'm about to buy basically your system: 78003xd, 4080, 650E-F MB, 32GB DDR5, 1000W PS, 2TB SSD Nvme, ATX case. I only fly DCS, and i want to push my triple screens maxed out setting on 2160x11520 (2k) across the three monitors with a fourth monitor at 1080x1920x doing some of the gauges and MPD's. what do you think? No issues for 80-100 FPS?
@@g-locmedia triple 2k is good enough for me, and the 4090 is still running 700 bucks more than the 4080. So if you got MSFS to run DLSS at 4k than I really should be good at 2K.
Hello mate. Thanks for your comment on my video. I'm using Triple 55" Hisense A7HAU. I think in the US they are called A7H. Im going through some issues with display port to HDMI convertors at the moment so still working my way through the amazon listings to find cables that fully work
Great video, thank you! Can you mention which Dp to hdmi converters and also hdmi cables you use? I am looking at triple 55s and have read a lot about the converters being a problem unless you get very specific models. I also am looking at triple 48” monitors with Dp ports but I feel like the visual experience would be even better with the 55” size.
I bought my HDMI cables local and can't see anything online that matches but I do have afriend using these www.amazon.com.au/UGREEN-Braided-Support-Compatible-Projector/dp/B08TM8TW1R/ref=sr_1_4?crid=943L5TWUUQ84&keywords=4k%2B120fps%2Bhdmi&qid=1696076857&s=electronics&sprefix=4k%2B120fps%2Bhdmi%2Celectronics%2C259&sr=1-4&th=1 and the seem to work well.
Hello mate no I haven’t. Things have also changed a fair bit since this. Idea was published and I’ve ended moving to TAA which I’m quite happy with at the moment.
Are 16 GB Vram really enough for this setup ? most likely your Vram memory maxed out when you were on the ground, that's why you got such a big drop in frames in higher quality.
hey! i have 3x hisense u78km and a RTX 3090. I am having a hard time finding cables to get 3x 4k 120hz. what cables do you use? do you use dp 1.4 to hdmi 2.1?
@@g-locmedia hey thanks. I bought those cables I have a weird issue only 2 monitors show up but they show up at 4k 120hz. What graphics card do you use?
what do you tink about SAMSUNG ODYSSEY NEO G7 43" instead off 55" i ting 55 takes to much space, whit 43 u can just sitt little closer and get the same effect as 55?
Hi great video, just a question. I also have a 4080 and a 38” monitor (3840x1600). One issue I have is when using DLSS the gps screens appears clearly blurry, and in performance or below they are in the limit to be usable in the normal cockpit view, totally blurry. You do not mention nothing about the screens of the gps in your video, is that because you see them ok?, didn’t you had blurriness when activating the DLSS in the more performance levels?. I know your screens have more resolution and this helps, but if you do not see any blurriness maybe I have something wrong. Thanks
DLSS will render your sim at a lower resolution the upscale it. Running DLSS at performance level it will appear less shar but you can sharpen this in the MSFS graphics. I prefer running DLSS on balanced which give quite a good result.
I can’t imagine this works well with the Fenix for example, I have a 4070 with a 5800x3D, with 1 screen 4k and I keep getting main thread limited with around 30 fps at relatively low dense 3rd party airport. No vatsim, no any other software and looking around is a pain with frame rates dropping to 12-15 for a second or two. DX12 also messes up my airport textures so I have to use DX11 without frame generation. Sometimes I hate this game.
@@g-locmedia That's true. I think there's some cutting and combining involved for the large monitors. I'm kind of waffling about buying a kit for the smaller monitors I'm using.
so if you use DLSS which rendering resolution do you set ? because tripple 4k would be unplayable with native 3x 4k on a 4080 ....not even on a 4090 ...
Thanks for the great video. Quick question. If you have TVs with a native refresh rate of 60 Hz, does it pay for to buy a card (ie: RTX4080) that will give you 80 to 90 FPS?
Yea because if your card is punching out 80 or 90fps and your TV can achieve 60 you’ll a smoother experience overall with much less frame drops as you fly over different terrain/cities etc. you’ll have a nice buffer ther of 20-30fps
Correct - I have 3 x 58 TV - 5800x3d - RTX4090 - V SYNC to HALF - Front TV gets 60 --- sides - 30 --- NO tearing - smooth - WITH RESERVES for big city airports --- FYI - PMDG 737 - very good on FPS -- G1000 planes sometimes not so much
Very interesting tests. I'm on the fence with buying this card. I'm finding it hard to justify the price, but I have a really old graphics card (1060 6GB) and it just can't handle anything more than GA flying away from big cities at 4k on a single monitor. Have you tested this setup with any airliners? I'm curious to see what's the best performance on relatively high settings that you could get with something like the Fenix A320 or PMDG 737 on approaching into an airport like iniBuilds Heathrow with FSLTL or FS Traffic turned up to the max. I'm hoping do that on a single 4k monitor and stay above 60FPS.
@@g-locmedia I decided to go for the 4080. I'm getting about 50FPS (with frame gen OFF) on approach to Gatwick in the FBWA320 in 4k single monitor with settings on very high and FS Traffic on. It's obviously double this with frame gen on. Flying into Heathrow is similar, except I'm getting some quite big stutters there. I'm not sure what it is yet, but I think it's probably scenery related because it's not happening at other airports.
@@mdhazeldine The 4080 is not the issue. It will easily run 80 FPS without frame generation even with all of the graphics settings set to Ultra. It is the traffic, object level of detail, and terrain level of detail that kill frame rate and that is because these setting load the CPU and not the GPU. Try for yourself. Set to Ultra and put your LOD sliders down to 50, and your frame rate will skyrocket. Increase them to 100, and your frame rate falls. Increase them to 150, and it plummets. The GPU isn't really the problem with MSFS, it is the main thread. I have a super high end GPU and I can't push my sliders up past about 130. Lowering the graphics settings don't really make a difference.
@@shenmisheshou7002 I did play around with these settings, and while I saw a difference, there were so many variables, it took forever to narrow it down and as you say, it's not just one thing. Traffic is a big thing, but it's also a big realism killer to fly into an empty airport. I really hope they do some good optimisation on this in FS2024.
@@mdhazeldine Yes, I agree. Having traffic, vehicles, and personnel really brings the airport to life. Fingers crossed that they can improve the software enough to allow a good 2nd tier processor to give a good result.
The devmode fps counter vs nvidia overlay do not match up. Not even close. What GeForce calls 75-80fps, nvidia calls 27-30fps. Iv got the 13900ks, and rtx 4080, so I was matching your grapgics settings.
@g-locmedia I have a 14900K and a 4090RTX system but my 2 monitors are 2K with 27” sizes. My room is not large enough for 3x 55” TVs. So I was wondering if it would be worth instead of investing in 3 4K monitors just to buy a 3rd 27” 2K monitor and use them that way.
I just wish I could stop my pc from crashing wish nvidia driver bugchecks, after just installing a new 4070-Ti OC Then it gives annoying stuttering in FS2020 Yair, I should've bought the 4080 but they are well over $2k here!
@@g-locmedia Hello! Yes, I have DX12 turned on, but only the main monitor in the middle has Frame Generation enabled, the monitors on both sides still have low FPS. Although NVIDIA's ALT+R shows that the frame rates of the three monitors are the same, it actually only reads the frame rate data of the middle main monitor. I want to know how you enabled frame generation on all 3 monitors, thanks🥰
What do you think the sweet spot is in monitor size for a setup like this. Would 65 inch or 70 inch monitors provide a better levels of immersion or is the 55 inch better because they are all the same resolution and going bigger just spreads out the pixels more?
Great question mate. Anything over 65” you’re really going to start to the the pixels at a distance of 2-3 feet. I had a choice of 55 or 65 and I went for the 55’s and don’t regret it.
Pixel pitch starts to become a thing if you go too big. It's still the same number of pixels on the screen, but they get physically larger as the screen gets larger, and when you're sitting right up against it, things get pretty noticeable. 48-50" is what I'd consider the sweet spot. 55" is alright, 43" is really sharp.
@@g-locmedia Thank you!. I have tried this but no matter what I do, I get the same image on all of my screens. Windows seems to recognize 1,2,3 and I have added the windows in MSFS with the 90,-90 settings but all of my monitors show the exact view. Can you explain or maybe refer me to a clear setup video for the basics?
@WoLF-xp3cy I had a few issues with TV's and Cables. I started with the TCL but there was some false advertising about the TV. I ended up with he Hisense because it had VRR and 120hz which was important for future proofing. As far as cables go Ive had some issues with the HDMI convertors. The Display port to HDMI convertors were causing the image displayed to go all wonky and wig in and out. I also had issues with th4e HDMI cables. The original cables were 5m long. I changes this to 3m cables of a different brand and it seems to work. Just make sure your cables and convertors support Display Port 1.4 to HDMI 2.1.
@@g-locmedia Yeah, I've done the triples thing for a while, I switched to VR four or five years back. I checked out your video because I have a 4080 super showing up today (going from a 3080) and wanted to see how well it ran MSFS2020. I'm pretty surprised it's able to handle ultra with triples. I'm running super ultrawide for my monitor (Odyssey G9 at 5220x1440) so I'm excited to see how it handles that, plus the Quest 3. Cheers!
If you play 4k gaming you do not need a big CPU. A I5 is enough and it is better to use the money on a better GPU. Actually a I3 is enough and the money you save is enough to buy a RTX4090 instead. At least if you intended a RTX4080 like the host here.
@@g-locmedia So what does that help? 2-5 fps ?? Compared to an 3400g or something. The money would be better used on a bigger GPU unless you got a lot of money. At least when playing in 4K. Unless some major changes have been made. All tests i have done and others i have seen, there is almost no difference from small I3 to big I9 CPU in 4K. And Flightsim 2020 i think would look stunning in 4k . Have not played it yet though, but are looking forward to doing so. Anyways hope you have fun with it and are just trying to save common folks some money if wanna play 4K. Or give them a chance to afford the GPU.
@@g-locmedia I also bought big I7 back in the 9700K days and found i could have bought bigger GPU instead when playing 4K. So it was not to sound smart. When paired with some 3600 C16 ram it was faster than the I9 9900K. Still could have used I3 9100 and bought the 2080 TI instead of the RTX2080. Cheap motherboard cheap CPU cheap Ram, good PSU and GPU and money last longer if not rich.
Thanks. I moved from 3 x 60 inch down to 3 x 55 inch oleds. I have them at 45 degrees - the center of each screen is the same distance from my eyes at my seating position (gotta wear reading glasses for the map ipads and i found the 45 angle better than the 60 for keeping everything in focus). Have you tried the haptic seat cushion? @@g-locmedia
Amazing Video! Thank you not only for the numbers but als the emotions you transferred through the video. It’s unbelievable what’s possible these days!
It is crazy what we’re seeing. Makes me excited for the next few years in flight sim.
a year has passed and a lot of performance optimizations happened, with my rtx 4080 super I can get up to 120 fps in 4k ultra graphics frame gen (no dlss) at default aiports with pmdg 737, and drops to 70-60 fps with inibuilds airports with the fenix a320 which is the most demanding aircraft. I feel like the sim really did optimize the performance and it looks absolutely unreal!
Legend, great to see a test put together in a logical format 👍. Your setup looks awesome 😎
Thanks Dan. Tried to make it in a way that I would like to see a benchmark test done. Hopefully it’s helpful to others. Keen to see what kind of frame rate you’ll get on your 4090.
Great video mate, that triple display is nuts. It's impressive how that 4080 can keep up with such crazy demand!?
Thanks mate. Yea, It kinda blew me away. I really wasn't expecting that much from it as MSFS is super hungry on the GPU.
3080 been doing it for years 😂
Thanks for the video i really enjoyed it.
I think you managed to catch the different level of immersion by going with triple 4k.
I think it will be really interesting to see this rig with pmdg/Fenix with costum airport, scenery, traffic etc and see how it works
That’s next on the list. Thanks for your kind comment on the video.
it's fantastic to see how an enthusiast you are. Passion communicates passion.
Thank you so much
@@g-locmedia thank you ! Airplanes being an old passion from teen age, I consider going to flight simulator but I will start small with X box maybe. Step by step. But if it gets bigger your channel will be my reference :)
DLSS on 4K is upscaling a 1080-1440p image depending on the settings. Only with it off is it truly 4K. The frame generation basically doubles the FPS with interpolation so your true FPS on 3 screens was actually half of that 15 fps lol. It’s still amazing we can at least run this type of setup with hardware which isn’t insanely expensive. I imagine the 4090 is 50% faster than this card.
The triple setup is just absolutely impressive for immersion.
Yea I’m def a triple monitor guy. VR one day but not yet.
Love your triple montitor setup. I put on a pair of VR headsets and haven't been able to fly ms 2020 without them since.
I’ve got the Meta quest three and while the simplicity of it is great the resolution and sweet spot through the lenses was a bit underwhelming.
NVIDIA sent you the 4080 but they're not sponsoring the video?
Sent for testing and review with triple 4K monitors
@@g-locmediaI missed the intro, thanks man
@@g-locmediauh.. no.
"Don't bite the hand that feeds you".... If it's truly bad, don't slam us too hard.
I play MSFS in VR with the Quest 2 goggles and a 4060ti 16gb gpu. i get around 60fps with high settings in game and ultra settings in virtual desktop. the frame gen is awesome with the 40 series cards. and your right about the cpu bottleneck, i have an R5 5500 now and have to turn my bitrate down to 60mbs to get these results. i hope to upgrade it soon.
4060 is a pretty good card. will be very good with Quest2
cant wait for ms to release sync'd processors each driving one screen like xplane does...
And you know they plan on implementing that…from where? Sauce?
good video bro, i have a 4080 and 10850K, im running single PG279Q1440P @ 165hz, ultra presets and dlss on quality. getting like 145 fps at altitude. fixing to change out to 7800x 3d, keep it up!
That’s some nice FPS
You mention at the start of the video, 3:45, that you were experiencing the left and right monitor swapping places. I experienced the same thing happening on my setup with 4 monitors connected to the graphics card, MSI 4090 Suprim, with 3 DP ports and 1 HDMI port. With 3 monitors connected i do not have this happening.
I found that by not switching on the monitor that was connected to the HDMI port when i started the computer, (so that the computer would only recognize that there were 3 monitors connected to the graphics card), and then starting MSFS, the sim would display all the windows on the correct monitors. I would then switch on the 4th monitor, the one connected to the HDMI port, and everything would be displayed in the correct position on all 4 monitors.
I know that this means having to restart the computer when i want to fly in MSFS but by doing this i can avoid the frustration of having the left and right windows not being dispalyed on the correct monitor. This works for me on my system so maybe it might work for you as well.
I will certainly try this. Thanks so much for sharing.
Have you tried to get frame gen or lossless scaling frame gen to work with triple screens yet? It seems that there is a method to get resize racoon to sort of wrangle up all the monitors into thinking it is one big one, then using LS frame gen to up them all. Have you, or anyone reading this done that, yet?
I do have resize racoon but haven't tried this out yet. Interesting point though. Might give it a go.
I wonder how a 7900XTX would handle this. It ties with and beats the 4090 in some games, also has scaling and frame gen options, and can be had for cheaper than a 4080.
I just ordered one for myself not even an hour ago, replacing my current 6800XT. I don't have triple 4k screens to test on though, I plan on going triple 1440p (just need to get that third monitor).
I reckon it will push triple 1440p no problem at all.
I'm running a 5800X3D, 32 GB Ram and a RTX4090 plus a second GPU for driving avionics screens inside my panel. Attached to the 4090 are 3 55" 4K 60hz native res. Would you go through all your windows and MSFS2020 settings? My setting are set high and am only getting 20 to 26 FPS with or without screen pop outs for avionics. Desperate to optimize my system.Thanks.
Are you running DLSS and frame gen?
@@g-locmedia yes.
@@g-locmedia would you be so kind and post all your NVIDIA and MSFS 2020 settings so I can hopefully determine why my FPS is in the Toilet. Thanks
Planning a video on this soon@@MrScott_e
I HAVE EXACT system as you -- TURN off SOME of the shadow options and lesser effects - they suck FPS w/o giving you much back - Obj Det - 200 - LOD -100-200 or more ( depends on city / rural ) - check DLL swap for new frame gen DLLs
In non-competitive scenarios frame generation is nice.
It's fine for flight simming
Great video mate, Would 32gb of ram be enough with the 7800x3d and a 4080 for Microsoft flight simulator 2020?
I think it would be fine. The reason I say this is that I got my mate who is a pc builder for advice and he said at the time I didn’t need 64gb and that 32 was good. He knows way more than me.
Been thinking about a 55 inch monitor. Still trying out VR right now. Just finding that I don’t want all that on my face, but we’ll see.
What VR headset you got?
I’m running the Meta 3, so it does have other uses if it doesn’t work out. I’m still in the tuning phase.@@g-locmedia
Great setup! And thanks for the information, now I can buy my 4080 without being stressed ;-))
As long as you have a CPU that wont bottle neck it, its all good.
The 4080 and 4090 and some old gpus can run perjectors so you can even look up and behind you like VR but more realistic. But with a motion chair the perjectors and screens have to be attached to the motion chair. Since perjectors and the screens are light its easily do able.
lol. That would be soo cool being able to look behind. Perfect for the likes of DCS
Would like to see this with some inclement weather. I'm running an rtx 3090ti overclock and a single 50". It gets about 40-60fps in xp12. Looking to upgrade to the latest version this winter and add side screens.
Hello! Friend Wow, your setup with 3 monitors in MSFS looks incredible, I also did the same but my TVs are 43 inches 1080, I also have a panel with the controls for a Cessna 150,172,172,206,207,208 soon I will try to make a video!! The Simulation changes a lot since it is very immersive!!! Blessings Mate!!
Yes triple screens are amazing. My fav setup by far.
@@g-locmedia I respect VR but I like this setup better since I have an incredible view and a cockpit that I can touch every button!! Enjoy it friend
Is your performance display from Nvidia Experience? Please post your complete Nvidia settings video and any other PC settings you are using? Thanks
Idea coming this weekend on that
I'm so happy for you that it worked out so well and honestly also a little quite surprised that 34k monitors could run so well with a 4080. That being said I sure wish you lived here in Southern California would love to bring over my 7950 x3d with the 4090 and hook it up to your monitors and see what kind of bump we get from that. My understanding is that from the 4082 the 4090 is actually a significant difference.
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By the way there's a link to my setup
Yea I think the VRAM makes a bit of a difference
Thanks for a great video, it is hard to find HW reviews for flight sims... Did you try DCS World on triple 4K? And if you did, what kind of frame rate are you getting?
Thanks mate. Yea I’m getting about 45-60 with pretty much medium settings but I really haven’t tuned it yet with DCS.
@@g-locmedia DCS can be very demanding. Still, 3 x 4K is a heavy task… 🤷🏼♂️
Never ever go by the total CPU utilisation percentage to work out how hard that’s being pushed, always look at all the CPU cores individually to see how hard the cores that are Actually being used are being hit. You can be CPU or Main Thread limited and still be a low percentage on the overall CPU utilisation percentage as one or two cores are being hammered.
Thanks for the advice.
This is really determined by the game being played. Older the game the less cores the game can utilize. Even newer games rarely use more than 4 cores. Some use 8 but more dont.
Excellent demonstration and detailed explanation given in a simple to understand format. The 55 inch televisions provides very good immersion for your flight simulator. With the current setup running at a commendable level, is there a chance that you may consider adding a full motion platform to the existing flight sim equipment in the future?
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and your great work. Definitely a thumbs up, subscribed too, and will view your other videos. Aloha.
K. Inouye Honolulu, Hawaii
Thanks for the feedback on my video. Yea the 55s were definitely the right choice. Unfortunately there are no plans to add motion at this time.
Oh wow, that's crazy! Currently i would like to build something similar to you so i can have a place to revise checklists and emergency procedures while i cannot fly due to weather + VATSIM.
I run now 16GBRAM (2x8) 3600CL16, RTX 3060, i7-12700k, 1TB SSD, Honeycomb yoke & Saitek Throttle and pedals.
I don't really fancy now going full 4K, but even with 1080p, the setup should be pretty enough for the moment, right?
Triple 1080 should work fine on that setup. You won’t be able to run ultra settings but even high or medium is still very good. Obviously this is just me guessing.
@@g-locmedia thanks! Might be better if i maybe buy smaller monitors? Like 27/32“? Because at least for the sides, in the real deal you won‘t see anything anyway cause it‘s covered by the frame. And i could build a custom frame somehow.
Ah, i forgot to mention i would like to make a full instrument flightdeck with modular panels, so that on the screens would be only what you see outside.
I used to have 32's. Look back on the channel and you''ll see a video call "I spent 8K on immersion" That will give you an idea of what it will look like size wise.@@rgav388
i've had now the time to check your other video you mentioned. 4080 is way out of the budget for me right now, i might look for a 4070 and update the RAM to 32 GB (2x16). Now i have even more questions, i hope you don't mind.
How is the tracker IR going? Have you ever used it for MSFS? i might not have the space for full 50inch TVs, but i might compromise buying one good 55 and couple a track ir; might be fine for some while for me. I would guess that would work pretty fine, right? My current goal is to first finish the "budget" cockpit and hardware building, and maybe after going for crazy graphics card.
So Literally last night I started looking into upgrading my GPU was wondering if the TRX4080 would be a viable option as I was considering the RTX 4090 and am wanting to put together a flight simulator. This morning your video was alerted in my notifications. AWESOMESAUCE! LOL. Have not watched the whole video yet ... Maybe this is what I am looking for. I wonder what the performance characteristics are between the RTX 4080 and the RTX 4090 with respect to flight sims with the 3 screens and VR. I also want a motion chair and the force feedback yoke. Any thoughts? Have you tried the RTX 4080 with VR? Would you spend your hard earned dollars on this or what you you buy knowing what you know up to this point? Thanks for any input and information you can provide.
Hello Mate. If money is no object then sure I'd go 4090 however. From what I can see online you might get 30% more out of a 4090. If by getting a 4080 allows you to buy some other flight gear then I'd be pushing you towards that. Because the 4080 can really do it. I have a FFB Yoke and I have also tried the NLR motion Plus Platform which is superb for flight, just a little out of my reach at the moment. To finish off, I'll say that the 4080 really did surprise me, it's a great experience all round. I have no hesitation on recommending it.
@@g-locmedia Thanks for the info!
1:50 64GB with 4x16GB sticks? I thought AM5 had trouble with 4 sticks of RAM? Or is that just the higher end 7900/7950X/X3D chips? I would run 2x32GB sticks, just so you could upgrade to 128GB in the future for more intensive games or picture quality updates/mods for DCS or MSFS. At least that's what I'm gonna do with my new PC build this year on AM5.
I haven't had any trouble but that's good forward thinking about upgrading to 128GB
This is my goal , I have the 4070 ti super after I exchange it from 4070 super , and with a 30 days window I have ? My plan is to get the 4080 super which was the primary plan , but I haven't decided in mobo yet, I'm a Intel all life with this situation going on right now with Intel ,, I haven't found a solution as to getting a mobo ,, and pretty interesting in the setup you have ,,, 4k high frame rate? Huh , that got me wondering, .... That's my goal, thank you
You've done a really good job!. I'm trying to build a similar cockpit (to use with MSFS2024 as it becomes available) with 3 screens, maybe 40" 43" QHD, my PC is Ryzen 7 7800 X3D - VGA RTX 4080 S. I'm not an expert, and I don't know if my VGA can easily support such QHD screens, or do you think that I can buy 4K screens like yours... without slowing the simulator, video quality or get VGA overheated?. Do you have any advice ? I appreciate a lot, thank you so much!
I think stick to your QHD screens if you want to be above 60fps running medium to high graphics. I've you're happy lower than that then you could go 4k and use DLSS
@@g-locmedia thank you for you reply, I'm a novice, you mean that my 4080 S VGA can run 43" X 3 screens QLED 4K and using DLSS I can stay aroud 60 FPS at most?
@@AlessandroAtzori-vv2je you'll be lucky to get 60fps but it may be possible in some areas of the map. Youll need to turn graphics settings down too
Using these big screens llooks great but how do you manage in aircraft with touch screen controllers e.g. G3000 and G3X Touch ? I use pop out manager to emulate the touch screens and this works quite well. But I suppose you need to use mouse activation of the on-screen Touch controllers?? I find that reduces the immersion (cf touch screens)
I use the mouse a little bit now also have lots of functions built into the steam deck and
Great setup. I have tried 3 screens, but my fairly high-end computer keeps crashing (I mean like, more that 50% of the time I fly) due to using 3 screens in MSFS 2020. Is this a problem for you?
No I don’t get any crashing and I’ve got 4 screens connected too.
Hi, I liked your review and I would like to know what 55inch screens you are using and what type input (gameport) these have. Kind regards, Jelle van Dijk, Luxembourg
Hello Kate. Thank you. Check out my linktree link in my profile. Everything on the cockpit is on there l.
Will check thanks a lot👍
The 4080 with my 48 inch Oled 4k 120 TV is absolutely stunning.
Oled is a dream. How are the blacks and flying at night?
@@g-locmedia great. Going to enjoy this 4080/OLED combo for a really long time.
Frame Gen doesnt work on your other two monitors - main monitor looked smooth. Other two looked choppy. didnt you notice?
Didn't notice at the time. This is something that I was enlightened to a while back
Hiya. Great idea. I have a question if you dont mind
How did you mount your 3 tvs. Is it a separate stand or are you using a desk?
So the two side TV’s are mount on floor standing TV stands. The centre TV is mounted to a bracket that’s attached to a desk. Will will be doing a sim tour soon so keep an eye out for that.
@@g-locmedia great thanks
Although your screens support VRR, it may be worth testing with the frame rate locked at 60fps. With the 120Hz max refresh on the screen, it should be perfectly smooth if you were still experiencing small stutters with the higher settings.
I will definitely try this. Thanks for the suggestion.
How does this setup do with DCS? Trying to decide between three TVs and VR because I’d love to actually use my MIP in the Hornet instead of having to use the MIP rendered in game in VR.
The setup works well although you will need some sort of headtracking so you can look up. What is the MIP like? Are you enjoying it?
One thing im curious about: you seem to be sitting quite close to the screens. Aren't your eyes getting tired quickly ?
Nah I don't. I sit about 1m from the screen
Thank you for sharing! What’s the size of your tvs?
These are 55 inch
I have a question. When you mentioned triple 4K is that referring to three monitors that are 4K each? I am learning I am trying to get the best of what I can get money may not be an object for me for the most part I just want to get the best equipment that I can I don't want to over buy when it's not necessary but I want to make sure I will get the best graphic so I can possibly get.
Yea 3 4K monitors. But you do need a powerful PC to run that kind of setup. What kind of PC do you have?
@@g-locmedia I do not have the PC yet. I am pricing everything I want to build a system within the next month. I’m going to be researching what kind of processor I would need that is scalable meaning that it will be powerful enough for a time to come and of course and everything. I’m not looking to cut costs. Of course I don’t want to spend haphazardly, but I am willing to spend money on some of the best equipment. That’s PC ram GPU And hard drive speed just getting my ducks in a row right now the monitors are going to be important too
@@andyarvai3199 at the moment and 7800x3d and the Nvidia 4090 would be my pick
I put three 4k monitors on DCS with just a 2080ti. FS2020 brought the rig to almost a stop. I plan, soon, to max a new gaming rig with a 4090 (or 4090 Super if it comes out soon enough) and 64G DDR on some sort of Intel i7 or i9 (depending on which will work fast enough to not bottleneck things.)
My one major question for you is about the side monitors. When I had the three 4k running, the side monitors were not 1:1 like I see in your video. The passing scenery was distorted horribly and just went past in a blur compared to the center monitor. How did you do that?
Are you running NVIDIA surround?
@@g-locmedia I'm currently on just one 55" 4K on the 2080ti. But, yes, at the time I had three 4k's, it was in surround.
@@randallmacdonald4851 yea you don’t want to use surround. Gives you all sorts of problems and won’t display the correct perspective.
@@g-locmedia Thanks. I fly DCS mostly. I would love to get three 55" with the proper perspective. I plan on later this month or next to get my second gaming rig maxed out and three 55" monitors sound great. Thanks for the help.
@@randallmacdonald4851 sounds awesome
are you using nvidia surround ?? i was only able to make frame generation work when using nvidia surround were the image is distorted!!
enabling it with proper multi screen drops the frame significantly
What I ended up finding out is that it is only working on the centre screen. Which makes sense based on what you said too.
@@g-locmediafor unknown reason , mine drops the frame below ~25 fps on all screen once directX12 is enabled without nvidia surround. “ my setup is 10900k , rtx 4090, 32gb Ram”
So Iv got quite a few 4k Oleds lying around the house and a 4090 .
Only thing is I only have one HDMI output from my 4090 .
How do I get 3 x hdmi output ? Do I need to a display port adapter
?
Yea that’s what you need. OLEDs will be amazing
I was looking at doing four 4k TVs with my 4080 for ATS and MSFS GA planes. In DCS VR is a lot better.
Hey Bro, i'm about to buy basically your system: 78003xd, 4080, 650E-F MB, 32GB DDR5, 1000W PS, 2TB SSD Nvme, ATX case. I only fly DCS, and i want to push my triple screens maxed out setting on 2160x11520 (2k) across the three monitors with a fourth monitor at 1080x1920x doing some of the gauges and MPD's. what do you think? No issues for 80-100 FPS?
I reckon you should look at a 4090 unless you want to hit up DLSS in the settings. Is it triple 4k or triple 1440p.
@@g-locmedia triple 2k is good enough for me, and the 4090 is still running 700 bucks more than the 4080. So if you got MSFS to run DLSS at 4k than I really should be good at 2K.
What type of screens are you using .fantastic video and extremely informitive thanks
Hello mate. Thanks for your comment on my video. I'm using Triple 55" Hisense A7HAU. I think in the US they are called A7H. Im going through some issues with display port to HDMI convertors at the moment so still working my way through the amazon listings to find cables that fully work
@@g-locmedia thanks and good luck
Please tell me the model of these 55 inch monitors?
I can remember the exact model but I think it's an A7HAU. I then linked on the website. If you can't find it feel free to email me
Do u prefer triple screens or eye tracker?
If I could have only one over the other it would be triples all the way.
Awesome setup! What´s the model and make of your screens?
These are Hisense A7HAU. I believe in the US they are sold just as A7H.
what would you say about just one 55inch 4k + track IR? how does triple compare to that?
That is certainly a great way to fly. You do loose a bity of feeling like you are in the plane though but I did fly like this for a long time.
Great video, thank you! Can you mention which Dp to hdmi converters and also hdmi cables you use? I am looking at triple 55s and have read a lot about the converters being a problem unless you get very specific models. I also am looking at triple 48” monitors with Dp ports but I feel like the visual experience would be even better with the 55” size.
This is the convertor I bought from Amazon AU www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B0B2ZF95KC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s03?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I bought my HDMI cables local and can't see anything online that matches but I do have afriend using these www.amazon.com.au/UGREEN-Braided-Support-Compatible-Projector/dp/B08TM8TW1R/ref=sr_1_4?crid=943L5TWUUQ84&keywords=4k%2B120fps%2Bhdmi&qid=1696076857&s=electronics&sprefix=4k%2B120fps%2Bhdmi%2Celectronics%2C259&sr=1-4&th=1 and the seem to work well.
Hi, have you checkt the Frames with Fsltl + FS Realistic + Map Enhancement + a Study lvl Aircraft on ultra settings ?
Hello mate no I haven’t. Things have also changed a fair bit since this. Idea was published and I’ve ended moving to TAA which I’m quite happy with at the moment.
Exactly the same as triple screens in IRacing.
Are 16 GB Vram really enough for this setup ? most likely your Vram memory maxed out when you were on the ground, that's why you got such a big drop in frames in higher quality.
It seems to continue to work fine. I do get frame drops like that every now and then but it really doesn’t happen much at all.
hey! i have 3x hisense u78km and a RTX 3090. I am having a hard time finding cables to get 3x 4k 120hz.
what cables do you use? do you use dp 1.4 to hdmi 2.1?
www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B0B2ZF95KC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s03?ie=UTF8&psc=1
www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B08TM4V1CD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s02?ie=UTF8&th=1
These are the ones I'm using.
@@g-locmedia hey thanks. I bought those cables I have a weird issue only 2 monitors show up but they show up at 4k 120hz.
What graphics card do you use?
awesome info thanks
No worries
what do you tink about SAMSUNG ODYSSEY NEO G7 43" instead off 55" i ting 55 takes to much space, whit 43 u can just sitt little closer and get the same effect as 55?
You can still get a good feeling and effect with 43. I've tried it.
Hello, small question. Do you fly on high density zone with high level add-ons (like PMDG, Fenix) ? If yes, are the FPS still great ?
I'm sorry I stick to more GA flying. Would a video liker that be useful for you? Always looking to create more content.
Hi great video, just a question. I also have a 4080 and a 38” monitor (3840x1600). One issue I have is when using DLSS the gps screens appears clearly blurry, and in performance or below they are in the limit to be usable in the normal cockpit view, totally blurry. You do not mention nothing about the screens of the gps in your video, is that because you see them ok?, didn’t you had blurriness when activating the DLSS in the more performance levels?. I know your screens have more resolution and this helps, but if you do not see any blurriness maybe I have something wrong. Thanks
DLSS will render your sim at a lower resolution the upscale it. Running DLSS at performance level it will appear less shar but you can sharpen this in the MSFS graphics. I prefer running DLSS on balanced which give quite a good result.
I can’t imagine this works well with the Fenix for example, I have a 4070 with a 5800x3D, with 1 screen 4k and I keep getting main thread limited with around 30 fps at relatively low dense 3rd party airport. No vatsim, no any other software and looking around is a pain with frame rates dropping to 12-15 for a second or two. DX12 also messes up my airport textures so I have to use DX11 without frame generation. Sometimes I hate this game.
Do you have DLSS running?
@@g-locmedia DLSS makes the Fenixs displays fuzzy, non readable at all the numbers just mix together. Have to use TAA unfortunately.
@@petarvasilev27 I have actually started using TAA recently. It actually works quite well.
Have you considered a bezel-free kit?
I have but I believe there are a few issues with it using it on a bigger screen
@@g-locmedia That's true. I think there's some cutting and combining involved for the large monitors. I'm kind of waffling about buying a kit for the smaller monitors I'm using.
so if you use DLSS which rendering resolution do you set ? because tripple 4k would be unplayable with native 3x 4k on a 4080 ....not even on a 4090 ...
It actually changes a lot. at the moment i'm balanced but every time there's an update I retest it all and sometimes change..
Thanks for the great video. Quick question. If you have TVs with a native refresh rate of 60 Hz, does it pay for to buy a card (ie: RTX4080) that will give you 80 to 90 FPS?
Yea because if your card is punching out 80 or 90fps and your TV can achieve 60 you’ll a smoother experience overall with much less frame drops as you fly over different terrain/cities etc. you’ll have a nice buffer ther of 20-30fps
Correct - I have 3 x 58 TV - 5800x3d - RTX4090 - V SYNC to HALF - Front TV gets 60 --- sides - 30 --- NO tearing - smooth - WITH RESERVES for big city airports --- FYI - PMDG 737 - very good on FPS -- G1000 planes sometimes not so much
Thank you for explainations. What do you use like displayport to hdmi converters ?
YIWENTEC DisplayPort 1.4 to HDMI... www.amazon.com.au/dp/B0B2ZF95KC?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
I run the 4080 no complaints
I can’t believe how good it is. Very surprising. I came from a 3070!
Very interesting tests. I'm on the fence with buying this card. I'm finding it hard to justify the price, but I have a really old graphics card (1060 6GB) and it just can't handle anything more than GA flying away from big cities at 4k on a single monitor. Have you tested this setup with any airliners? I'm curious to see what's the best performance on relatively high settings that you could get with something like the Fenix A320 or PMDG 737 on approaching into an airport like iniBuilds Heathrow with FSLTL or FS Traffic turned up to the max. I'm hoping do that on a single 4k monitor and stay above 60FPS.
I haven’t tested that yet but maybe I can make a short video about it. You’re not the first to ask about single screen 4K performance.
@@g-locmedia I decided to go for the 4080. I'm getting about 50FPS (with frame gen OFF) on approach to Gatwick in the FBWA320 in 4k single monitor with settings on very high and FS Traffic on. It's obviously double this with frame gen on. Flying into Heathrow is similar, except I'm getting some quite big stutters there. I'm not sure what it is yet, but I think it's probably scenery related because it's not happening at other airports.
@@mdhazeldine The 4080 is not the issue. It will easily run 80 FPS without frame generation even with all of the graphics settings set to Ultra. It is the traffic, object level of detail, and terrain level of detail that kill frame rate and that is because these setting load the CPU and not the GPU. Try for yourself. Set to Ultra and put your LOD sliders down to 50, and your frame rate will skyrocket. Increase them to 100, and your frame rate falls. Increase them to 150, and it plummets. The GPU isn't really the problem with MSFS, it is the main thread. I have a super high end GPU and I can't push my sliders up past about 130. Lowering the graphics settings don't really make a difference.
@@shenmisheshou7002 I did play around with these settings, and while I saw a difference, there were so many variables, it took forever to narrow it down and as you say, it's not just one thing. Traffic is a big thing, but it's also a big realism killer to fly into an empty airport. I really hope they do some good optimisation on this in FS2024.
@@mdhazeldine Yes, I agree. Having traffic, vehicles, and personnel really brings the airport to life. Fingers crossed that they can improve the software enough to allow a good 2nd tier processor to give a good result.
Does Frame Generation works on all 3 monitors, or just the center one? Thanks
As far as I’m aware it’s all three.
I wonder what fps will be with vatsim + fsltl at LA area vfr daytime, because rural areas usually not so demanding on fps
Hey man, will a 5800X3D work with a 4080 Super?
Yea I'm running a 7800x3d with a 4080. Should be fine.
The devmode fps counter vs nvidia overlay do not match up. Not even close. What GeForce calls 75-80fps, nvidia calls 27-30fps.
Iv got the 13900ks, and rtx 4080, so I was matching your grapgics settings.
I'm running an AMD processor, Didn't realize they didn't match. I'll need to look in to that more. Thanks for highlighting.
Does it have to be 4K? Can I do the same with 2K monitors?
You sure could but unsure if you find 2k monitors at 55". Just get 4k and run them in 2k until you PC specs catch up.
@g-locmedia I have a 14900K and a 4090RTX system but my 2 monitors are 2K with 27” sizes. My room is not large enough for 3x 55” TVs. So I was wondering if it would be worth instead of investing in 3 4K monitors just to buy a 3rd 27” 2K monitor and use them that way.
Curious question what monitors you running now can you fit 3 into back of your pc in terms of wires
The graphics card has 3 display ports and one HDMI
Can you use Frame Generation on 3 screens at the same time?
it has come to my attention while back that frame generation only works on the centre screen
I just wish I could stop my pc from crashing wish nvidia driver bugchecks, after just installing a new 4070-Ti OC
Then it gives annoying stuttering in FS2020
Yair, I should've bought the 4080 but they are well over $2k here!
Have you tried the image scaling option? What CPU are you using?
Until Asobo gets rid of the insides of the planes and adds more controls to the multi monitor side, its not gonna work well.....
I must admit I'd like them to do that for MSFS2024 however I don't have any issues with the triple monitor controls at the moment.
What monitor stands are you using with the triple 55’s?
I have two TV floor stands for the side monitors and the middle one is mounted to a desk using a TV wall mount
No one man should have all that power.
Lol. Can you imagine what it’s going to be like in a few years. CRAZY!
Hello, I would like to ask if you enable G-SYNC or V-SYNC? My frame generation only works on the main monitor, I don't know why, I'm 4090
Frame generation should work on all monitors. Do you have Direct X12 checked on?
@@g-locmedia Hello! Yes, I have DX12 turned on, but only the main monitor in the middle has Frame Generation enabled, the monitors on both sides still have low FPS.
Although NVIDIA's ALT+R shows that the frame rates of the three monitors are the same, it actually only reads the frame rate data of the middle main monitor.
I want to know how you enabled frame generation on all 3 monitors, thanks🥰
What do you think the sweet spot is in monitor size for a setup like this. Would 65 inch or 70 inch monitors provide a better levels of immersion or is the 55 inch better because they are all the same resolution and going bigger just spreads out the pixels more?
Great question mate. Anything over 65” you’re really going to start to the the pixels at a distance of 2-3 feet. I had a choice of 55 or 65 and I went for the 55’s and don’t regret it.
Pixel pitch starts to become a thing if you go too big. It's still the same number of pixels on the screen, but they get physically larger as the screen gets larger, and when you're sitting right up against it, things get pretty noticeable. 48-50" is what I'd consider the sweet spot. 55" is alright, 43" is really sharp.
How do you make the monitors not all display the same thing?
The displays are set to extend rather than mirror
Thanks to AMD and modders to let me have frame generation on my 3080 :)
Question. Is this triple 4k?????
Yes but using DLSS
@@g-locmedia Thank you!. I have tried this but no matter what I do, I get the same image on all of my screens. Windows seems to recognize 1,2,3 and I have added the windows in MSFS with the 90,-90 settings but all of my monitors show the exact view. Can you explain or maybe refer me to a clear setup video for the basics?
@@MRBIG-lg9zl check your your displays are set to extend and not mirror
Are these triple monitors or tvs ? How did you connect them to your gpu ports ?
Now that’s a bit of a story. I’ll give you a full rundown later today. But basically I’m using display Port to hdmi.
@WoLF-xp3cy I had a few issues with TV's and Cables. I started with the TCL but there was some false advertising about the TV. I ended up with he Hisense because it had VRR and 120hz which was important for future proofing. As far as cables go Ive had some issues with the HDMI convertors. The Display port to HDMI convertors were causing the image displayed to go all wonky and wig in and out. I also had issues with th4e HDMI cables. The original cables were 5m long. I changes this to 3m cables of a different brand and it seems to work. Just make sure your cables and convertors support Display Port 1.4 to HDMI 2.1.
@@g-locmedia thanks bro that was very helpful
@@WoLF-xp3cy no worries mate. If you have any issues sing out.
@@g-locmedia what did you mean by false advertising from tcl? ended buying the q7's now contemplating on returning and switching to the hisense's
Why you didn't go for a 4090? If I see your setup $500 more wouldn't make a big difference.
NVIDIA supplied this card to me for review otherwise the chances are I would have went for the 4090.
How close are you to the screens?
About 3ft
How do you do the replay?
what part of the video are you referring to?
@@g-locmedia for example at 10:09. but the implementation of that is very poor here. in x-plane you can choose between other cameras in the recording.
Put on a VR headset, then you have true to life size.
Made a full video on that. You should check it out. Both VR and screens both got their advantages and disadvantages.
@@g-locmedia Yeah, I've done the triples thing for a while, I switched to VR four or five years back. I checked out your video because I have a 4080 super showing up today (going from a 3080) and wanted to see how well it ran MSFS2020. I'm pretty surprised it's able to handle ultra with triples. I'm running super ultrawide for my monitor (Odyssey G9 at 5220x1440) so I'm excited to see how it handles that, plus the Quest 3. Cheers!
Goodjob
Thank you
If you play 4k gaming you do not need a big CPU. A I5 is enough and it is better to use the money on a better GPU. Actually a I3 is enough and the money you save is enough to buy a RTX4090 instead. At least if you intended a RTX4080 like the host here.
The massive cache of the X3D chips help a fair bit
@@g-locmedia So what does that help? 2-5 fps ?? Compared to an 3400g or something. The money would be better used on a bigger GPU unless you got a lot of money. At least when playing in 4K. Unless some major changes have been made. All tests i have done and others
i have seen, there is almost no difference from small I3 to big I9 CPU in 4K. And Flightsim 2020 i think would look stunning in 4k . Have not played it yet though, but are looking forward to doing so. Anyways hope you have fun with it and are just trying to save common folks some money if wanna play 4K. Or give them a chance to afford the GPU.
@@g-locmedia I also bought big I7 back in the 9700K days and found i could have bought bigger GPU instead when playing 4K. So it was not to sound smart. When paired with some 3600 C16 ram it was faster than the I9 9900K. Still could have used I3 9100 and bought the 2080 TI instead of the RTX2080. Cheap motherboard cheap CPU cheap Ram, good PSU and GPU and money last longer if not rich.
But you already know how it is when I live with momma and dad
the 4080 doesn't have enough vram for the sim to run at a decent fps with three 4k displays... you need a 4090 for that.
I get between 36-60 Fps for what I'm running my settings at now and I'm pretty happy with it. 4090 would be nice though. Do you have a 4090?
@@g-locmedia yup, the thing is that you don’t get the stutter when in a heavy scenery or on a detailed aircraft. Vram usage is insane in the sim.
what are your screens angled at?
Screen are at about 60 degrees
Thanks. I moved from 3 x 60 inch down to 3 x 55 inch oleds. I have them at 45 degrees - the center of each screen is the same distance from my eyes at my seating position (gotta wear reading glasses for the map ipads and i found the 45 angle better than the 60 for keeping everything in focus). Have you tried the haptic seat cushion? @@g-locmedia
59ms lag!! RX 7900 XTX is better and closer to 4090. Fluid Motion Frames!
Are you running a 7900XTX?
How is the 4070 with it?
Its a 4080 in this video. I don't have any experience with a 4070
@@g-locmedia thanks anyways
4080 vram and bus is just weak for 3x 4K
Better off with a 7900XTX or 4090