ESSENTIAL VR in 2022 | Hardware & Headsets & more | Flight Simulation | Part 1 - an introduction
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ก.ค. 2024
- Is virtual reality for you? VR in 2022 now offers more choice, lighter headsets and easier set up than ever before. Now is the time to revisit VR for the ultimate immersive experience. In this video we take a look at what is required in 2022 for flight simulation. I cover VR headset choices and recommended hardware. CPU's, Memory, Graphic Cards and Storage options are discussed, with a focus on Microsoft Flight Simulator.
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00:00 Introduction
02:22 Technology
04:13 VR Headsets
08:51 Hardware
14:49 Coming Up
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A challenging video to make yet you covered a lot of information in those 16 minutes, nicely done. I'm looking forward to watching more videos in this new series in the future. Take care.
Excellent, thank you, Mark. I'm looking forward to your next part. Stay well. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Such a detailed introductory video, awesome editing, calm easy voice, and an all round GREAT video!!!
Thanks 😀
Yet another video packed with great content and advice! Just like you, I've been within this hobby for many years and been a dedicated VR flyer since the first headsets were available. In my opinion, nothing improved my experience and the overall immersion more than VR did in all these years!
So, for anyone with the required hardware or funds to get it based on the excellent advice given in this video, you'll be amazed what VR will do for you!
This is exactly what I was looking for. Great resource. Thank you!
Hi Mark, thanks for a great year in simming, your wise counsel has helped a lot.
Excellent tips Mark!! I am new to VR, being an old FS guy with many years, I’ll always use VR. The new HP VR set working well, plan to upgrade GC to 3080ti from 3060 10gb. Thanks much, looking forward to your next video!
Wow perfect timing! Thank you!
Great video, those locations at the start were fantastic, I need to start flying beyond UK shores!
Excellent content, pace and clear delivery. Thanks.
Thanks Mark, extremely informative.
I agree 100% 😎 fly safe
Certainly agree with Steve, Vr FlightSim Guy when he mentions ..A challenging video to make! lol
Excellently made ,informative and interesting video with your usual relaxing and calm narration
Looking forward to this mini series
Thanks
Excellent video and a well balanced set of recommendations.
Great overview. Thank you. 👍
Always Enjoy and actually learn something Thank You
Good work Mark !
I was wavering for a while before I took the plunge, but now VR is definitely for me! It's the only way I fly in X-Plane these days.
Thanks for making these Mark. Long term follower and also early adopter VR/HP G2, ex-real world ppl. I suspect you know what I mean, but it’s impossible to share what VR flight sim really means in a 2D video. The brain goes to a different place. It’s a paradigm change. VR and flat screen are two different activities. I still 2D sim for new aircraft, complex IFR, and anything where I need a pen; although in-VR kneeboards etc are coming on. But seriously, if you have flown in real life, there is now only VR.
I agree…once in VR it is difficult to go back.
Totally agree. I wasn't ready to be blown away by it to such an extent. The moment I loaded the first VR session I knew going back to 2D would be sporadic at best. Even my modest G2 delivers an awesome experience, and I'm looking forward to the future.
Couldn’t agree more @Tim. Also a lapsed PPL here. Got my Reverb G2 yesterday and honestly I was preparing to be let down. I wasn’t. It is amazing, and I can’t wait for the inevitable technology improvements!
Excellent video as always👍 I own an HP Reverb G2, good product with an excellent price value. I just bought the Tobii 5 eye tracker.I will be very happy to see a video from you about that product. The shipping from Sweden to Canada is outstanding .
Very helpful. Thx.
Thanks. Another big reason to move on from XBox X, which does a very good job on the basics
Mark always make best video 😊
Awesome video. I started MSFS 2020 when it launched using my home-built PC: i7-10700KF / 16 GB with Nvidia 3070 and a 1440P gaming monitor. I was so enthralled with the Flight sim experience; I jumped on the Reverb G2 v2 bandwagon and loved the possibilities. I found the PC struggling and I was spending an inordinate amount of time trying to tweak the bazillion settings for a more realistic VR experience. Alas I gave up and built my new PC (before seeing this video). I wound up with a Z690 + i9-12900K, 32 GB DDR4 (3600), Dual M2 Samsung 980 PRO 2 TB drives, and a Gigabyte RTX 3080 Ti. Now simming with the Reverb G2 is pretty effortless and very immersive. I suspect that with the incremental advancements in the sim and various toolkits, the VR experience will only get better. I'm somewhat amazed that what I built for MSFS is pretty much spot on with your recommended hardware. thanks so much for this very informative video series. Huge thumbs up!
Oh one comment. The biggest issue I have with the G2 is the inside out tracking - it seems to be erratic, especially when in the cockpit on the ground and not moving. Perhaps you have a video about Reverb G2 head tracking and environment setup and I just haven't seen it. But solve all head tracking issues in the G2 and It's a keeper. I don't want to have to upgrade to a headset that requires tracking devices if it's not necessary. 🙂
I'm looking into getting VR.Very helpful video.thanks mark
Expect you will be like me, you will not go back to 2D. Good luck,
Great video thanks for sharing, God Bless.
Great videos Mark, I am still using Track IR 5 that I am quite happy with and have never tried VR but have been looking at prices of these headsets/ combos. and find them very expensive. I am still unsure if I want to go down this path as I have just upgraded my PC and bought the Airbus control system. I wish I could try one to get an idea if it would be a future purchase, they might have a FlightSim stand VR set-up at the next airshow in Australia. Well done with your videos I have watched most of them.
I took delivery of a Corsair Vengeance 7000D pre-built yesterday, sporting the i9 12900K and the RTX 3080ti, 32 GB DDR5, and 2 TB NVMRAM, seems I just need the HP Reverb G2 V2 now, and I'm good to go. Thank you for making that decision for me. Your video makes me feel very happy with my choice of a new gaming PC intended for MSFS and VR too.
Just did a flight over New York in the R44 Chopper in my HP G2 VR headset. It is bloody amazing.
I bought my first VR headset (Rift S) in anticipation of MSFS 2020 and have since bought a Valve Index and just ordered a Reverb G2. I can't imagine flying on a flat screen again
Obviously the biggest and best is always the right option.. but I play MSFS with a 8700K CPU and a GTX1070GPU with Quest 2 linked and unlinked.. which is now capable of 90-120hz at that 300 bucks.. works fine on medium-high settings in MSFS.. the head tracking is probably the biggest reason for my use.. beats TrackIR... with that said, MSFS is enjoyable in either Flat or VR .. it is just a marvelous title. I enjoy it so much, I purchased a Xbox Series X just to have a smaller footprint in another room, even though it has no VR.. enjoy your videos... cheers!
Great video very informative as always mark. I9. 3090 one day 🤞
Good video, thanks. I could not see myself playing MSFS or Google Earth without VR.
After almost 2 years with my G2 I just cannot imagine going back to 2D. I would even say that I miss that small amount of motion sickness I had for a week when I first tried it:)
Thanks for the introduction into VR at the moment I am using an Arctis 7P Wireless Headset which gives me great sound and I rely on all my banks of Saitek dials and switches to act as my virtual world and have found this a satisfying set up so far. But VR is knocking at my door?
I also bought the Reverb G2 as my first (and currently only) VR headset.
Great headset. 👍
I've used PSVR to play Ace Combat and it's a great experience. Now I just got a gaming PC and have been playing MSFS which is a much better flying experience but I miss VR. I'm trying to decide on a headset so this video is very helpful, thank you. Looks like it'll be a G2. Hoping my i5 12400F, 3060 ti, 16 GB DDR4, 1 TB SSD will run it well?
Running just fine with 9900K, 1080ti and 32gb
i wouldnt even give a flight sim a second thought if it wasnt for VR. if you're in doubt then yes VR will improve your experience 1000%
I see water problems in the Panama Canal. Water levels seem to be different in some locations a has a sheared look. In many places water levels seem too high. Also wierd is when water wraps up the side of rivers.
Yes, your not alone, this happens with some areas in default scenery.
@9:55 I don’t know what rendering settings you're using but the SF Bay Area that you are flying over is missing the San Mateo Bridge that is a big span that goes West/East. Maybe you have. bridges switched off ??
I use Quest 2 for MSFS and I use airlink ( no cable needed).
Another great video, I'm putting PC build together for this and was pleased to see my list almost matches your sweet spot 1:1, I was looking at a single 2TB NVME but you mention having the system and game on separate drives - would 2 x 1TB NVME drives be a better option?
Yes it would, I have 1 x 1TB and 2 x 2TB NVMe…the 1 TB for system, one MSFS and one for anything else.
Really think of getting a pc for vr but waiting on the psvr 2 to come out and hopefully it will be pc compatible than I shall. Get a high spec pc
i just bought G2 and new pc with 4080 , today or tomorrow i will go pick it up , i just canno't wait :D
Fantastic 😀
@@SimHangerFS they just wrotte me it's ready for pickup :D
do you have any advice how to overcome VR sickness asap ? :D
Mark, firstly I would like to thank you for excellent tutorials and guidance on the subject of VR, I’ve watched all of them which have answered most of my concerns … however, the one thing that still concerns me, is the physical hands-on interaction with my Home built Cockpit … the obvious being my Simionics bezels, and was wondering if you have any suggestions as to any VR headset on the market at the moment that would allow me to see and physically operate my PFD & MFD bezels … without having to remove the headset.
Having watched all your video’s I’m certainly leaning towards the HP reverb G2 … I have a thousand odd hours in the real thing and have convinced myself that VR is definitely the way to go with the sim, but having used the G1000 in real life it would be hard not to have physical use of the same in my sim. Once again, many thanks for you very informative channel.
Regards, Brian
Hi, you need to use a vr headset that has ‘’pass through’’ this lets you see the world around you, although often in low res. There are no excellent options currently available to be honest, but check out the Meta Quest 2 and Vive Pro options. Improved functionality can be expected in the upcoming gen headsets.
@@SimHangerFS Thanks for the valuable info Mark, I think for the moment I will go ahead with the purchase of HP Reverb G2 V2 and wait for a decent passthrough VR set to come onto the market. But for the time being I can get started with the G2. regards, Brian
I use VR since 2013, without Rocket sience. DCS, IL-2 and finaly MSFS.
Thanks for your good videos. I come from Germany and the English language is difficult for me. Compliments to you, you speak slowly and very understandable, even I understand almost all. When will DLSS be installed and will VR Headsets benefit from it?
Hello, yes VR will benefit and timings are sometime around June or July I believe. 👍
Love your channel! I'm having a VR problem with one game in VR, the images in the headset is not aligned. Other VR games work so it's in the game settings, but I don't know what I did for it to have this issue. It wasn't like this before. I tried to reinstall the game but it still has the same issue. I 'm using stream assistant in my pico 4. The game is Euro truck simulator 2 on steam.
I don't know as I don't use that program. But I would recommend using Virtual Desktop and not the Streaming assistant for the Pico 4. Better performance and less buggy. It sounds like a compatibility issue between the two programs?
I also tried playing it on VD but it still has the same issue, 2 unaligned images. It's frustrating because I never touched any settings. What's more frustrating is that I can't even reinstall the game from scratch even when I turn off the cloud save option. What's the most frustrating is that this is my current favorite VR game next to MFS
It has also come to a point that I am willing to pay $100USD to anyone that can help me fix this. That or I just put up a new steam account and buy the game again@@SimHangerFS
Good for certain types of flying…
VR is perfect and a must for VFR flight.
Doesn’t work great for IFR if you use external equipment, and MS2020 doesn’t have good accurate systems
Really helpful video, Mark. I was doing some research on VR before taking the leap. Earlier this week I was thinking I might just buy the Reverb G2 headset to get it by the weekend. Kind of wish I had. The price yesterday on HP's website was about £598. Just refreshed the page in the hope of seeing a discounted sale price and it's now £903 - a little more than a 50% hike. Is that HP cashing in on market share perhaps? I'm certainly not buying it at that price. Looks like it will be a while before I take the leap into VR after all. 😞
Price on HP site this morning still £598 …. www.hp.com/gb-en/shop/offer.aspx?p=hp-reverb-g2-vr-headset-preorder
Yes, I checked last night and they were back down to the same price as before. Am guessing it was a mistake. Now ordered 😁
Hello! I've seen your entire series of videos "Essential VR" and I'm thinking these days in the possibility of acquiring a Reverb G2 v2, and see how it works with my 3070 OC, and if it is necessary to upgrade to 3080Ti, and the question is: Do you know if HP is going to make a move on its competitors? I mean, are there rumors of a v3 or G3? Thank you!
Hi, no rumours of a G3 that I am aware of.
Would vr be better than a pc screen and yoke for practicing flight training at home when not in the plane? It seems you are “in” the plane with vr. But you don’t “feel” the yokes pressure. Anyone know what is better? Thanks!
Hello mark from france, great video, and very informative ; but... i ve bought amd 6800XT and 5800x last year... don t forget us... i cannot change my setup now... try to give us please same informations on capabilities for VR, bugs etc... and we don t know at this time if amd technology for dlss equivalent will be integrated in msfs... i like your videos, your voice and your pedagogy.
Hi, MSFS have said FSR is under consideration post DLSS implementation, I’ll be following this closely for sure 👍
@@SimHangerFS OK mark. i m confused with your comparatives. i v seen many many tests on multiple games. -6800xt same as 3080, sometimes a bit lesser, sometimes a bit better... ans same things between 6900XT AND 3080 TI . you arent corrupted by nvidia ? ah ah
@@stmarch8359 I’m not able to test all of these myself. I often refer to Jarrod’s Tech site for reference, he is one of the few testers that includes MSFS in his side by side tests. th-cam.com/users/JarrodsTech
Hi Mark, I get the occasional bout of Vertigo (BPPV). This is the only thing that is stopping me from getting a VR Headset. Have you come across any solid info that suggests VR can trigger Vertigo ?
Watch the upcoming videos, one is focused on this issue 👍
Hi Mark. Thank you once again for a great video. I am looking to upgrade my RTX 2070 super GPU to either a 3080 or a 3080Ti. This is mainly for MSF2020. will there be much difference between the 3080 and 3080Ti for flight simulation?
The 3080ti is just about the same performance as the 3090. Plus a bit of future proofing. +9% performance. If you can afford it go for the ti.
@@SimHangerFS Thank you Mark
Hi I’m trying to find something better than my current (old) Acer mixed reality headset for MSFS They look ok but dials and gauges are blurry unless I zoom in.
They also aren’t recognised by my new pc so I assume they are way too old. I’m looking for something where the dials and gauges will be clear
Check out the Pimax Crystal Light
@SimHangerFS Thanks, Mark! You've mentioned the 12700k as the "sweet spot" regarding CPU. What about the
i5 13600k? Also, I watched one of your recent videos about the new AMD R7 5800 X3D:th-cam.com/video/U5qTUKpEvik/w-d-xo.html Which one do you recommend now? I'm planning my first build and need some help/guidance. Thanks, Mark for your consideration and support.
7800 X3D or less expensive 5800 X3D.
@@SimHangerFS Thanks, Mark.
I don’t know your vision impairment so you may not be able to answer. My left eye at my last vision check at an optometrist (1 year ago) was 20/10, however my right is at the other end of the spectrum at 20/200 and cannot be corrected. This did not preclude me from getting my Private Pilot Certificate after passing my check ride for “demonstrated ability” given by a FAA examiner. Could I use VR and get at least some of the possible effects?
Yes I think you could, but in the upcoming videos I will be dealing with the subject of vision fairly extensively, and different options available. Stay tuned. 👍
I also think you can. I don’t see crap without glasses, probably not so extreme as you have. You could check out for example VR Optician. The make tailor made lenses that go on top of the actual VR lenses. I use them as well and this is just excellent. Probably you can put them an email if it is possible for your needs.
I’m loving VR to be honest. I tried 2D the other day and I dislike it like eating raw scallops LOL. Only vr for me :)
By the way, this is excellent stuff Mark and hope to see you soon again in one of the group flights (Patagonia with PIE). Looking forward to your follow up video
@@Lucas_Pit Thanks for the tip on VR Optician. I will get an email off to them.
Hi, I am almost blind in the right eye and wondered whether I would be able to use VR or not. The answer is yes you can as we have learnt how to interpret the world through a single lens already!
I also held my PPL despite having difficulty with judging distances, which resulted in some intersting landings in the early days:-(
@@Delboyii Thanks Dereck, I appreciate the info. I had no that VR had addressed this problem. I’m a few days away from this years exam which I want to get the results from before I start getting serious about this.
Hi! My rig is the laptop MSI Leopard GP76, i7 11800H, rtx 3070 (130tdp), 64Gb DDR, Win 11, Oculus Rift S, Honeycomb Alfa+Bravo+Saitek Cessna rudder pedals. I could say that I took the Rift S to substitute my TrackIr4 devise and it was my first VR experience. But what a disappointment, I cannot run it in VR even at the low settings. It stutters all the time, at any settings, with ASW off or locked 30, 18, whatever, it is unplayable. Without VR I run it in 2.5k resolutions on high-end settings quite smooth. Not sure if it is Rift S related or probably the rig is too weak to play it in VR.
On the face of it, you should be able to achieve low to medium settings. Not sure why not. Possibly the weak link is the mobile 3070.
The game is really demanding. Therefore it is wired it goes fine and smooth without VR being on. Also the other demanding games such as Cyberpunk, Witcher 3 (update 4) go on max settings (without RTX enabled) in 2.5k smooth. So maybe it is Rift S to blame. Will need to get on to my TrackIr, but of course it is hard to get such an immersion without VR
My g2 v2 is plugged in but won’t turn on the light on the power won’t turn on
Sounds like a fault. Contact HP
I have an xBox series x. Would this run MSFS with Reverb G2?
No, the Xbox does not support VR unfortunately. See here th-cam.com/video/2EWJstK2WEI/w-d-xo.html
@@SimHangerFS Many thanks Mark. What a bummer!!
🤔I have a 9700K and an RTX 2080 with 32GB Ram what type of performance can I expect? Thanks.
A good performance with a mic tire of medium and high settings 1440p
Meta quest 3?
This video is quite old. Made long before Q3, which is an excellent headset and now my choice.
I have to disagree with you on one of your first points. It does feel like you need a degree in computer science to get msfs 2020 working.!! It took me days to get it installed and now it freezes my screen when I try to fly. There's lots of advice but nothing has helped really!
Mark...have you seen "TheVRpilot" video on extreme clarity upgrade in VR for mfs2020? It's called wow this trick....amazing quirk....everyone loves it! ❤
Yes I’ve seen it thanks, it helps with lower end CPU’s. Very subjective results. There are a few compromises with this setting. Didn’t help my system at all.
@@SimHangerFS THanks, i have a system thats low end so, maybe?....
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