Hmmm, No. I was wiped when they announced the release of a new WRX, I saw the release live on TH-cam. When they showed the car, I almost cried. My wipe died.....
@@Jerseygarage O’man, handling is unbelievable! Now that it’s getting warmer and the stock summer tires are sticking, it’s crazy. I’ve not found it’s limit yet. I use to toss and slide the Si’s around but this car just has a totally different feel.
@@Anonymoose0913 Maybe. I love the older and raw feeling of the older Si and assume the STI has similar. At my age though, I like the comfort of the VB.
The VB WRX drives like a dream and of course the FA24 is whopping the EJ with bolt on and a tune. I honestly do not buy used Subarus and much less an STI. The choice was simple when I drove the VB WRX it handles VERY WELL. Also, I don’t buy performance cars for looks if I did I’d be driving a German car.
People will start loving the car once it's discontinued. Although I've noticed most of the hate is mostly on the Internet, in real life they're selling well, and actually get compliments.
there's an argument to be made for that, I think its all over the place. I drive by some dealers, and they have like 5 or 6 on their lots and are selling them at like 1-2k under sticker, others don't have any and whatever they do have they are marking up. I just can't stand the plastic trim on the wheel wells
@@Jerseygarage The plastic used to bother me, but now it doesn't. Seeing it in person, around the area, and going to test drive one, I was no longer bothered by them.
I have one see alotnof them the biggest hate I've heard and felt personally was the plastic cladding but the after market support is great soo there's a way around it
Wrx is the best value for performance and it's a jack of all trades. Win/win. Fun fact: every time a new WRX generation was released, the general consensus was/is that it's ugly, every single time since 2002 when the Bug eye came to the US
I just bought a 2023 WRX ignition red and I couldn’t be happier. It came with an off road package all oem parts. It’s lifted 2” and came with all terrain tires. It looks like a rally car and handles great! For me this car gives me everything I need.
Owned an Infiniti G37. Was "fast" but the V6 meant that it felt smooth, but without much "in your stomach" acceleration feel. Switched to a Focus ST because I wanted the BOOOST life. Absolutely adored that car. The way it turned, the way it accelerated, everything about that car was fantastic... Except the FWD. Rain, flooring from turns, or trying to get out the gate first at a stoplight were exercises in frustration. Couldn't handle the FWD anymore after a while. Got a C55 AMG. Fantastically, brutally fast car. Horrible on gas, maintenance, insurance, and basically everything else. It also did not handle anywhere near as well as the Focus. Felt heavier and definitely missed the tossable nature of the Focus. Got a 2019 VA WRX expecting it to be like an AWD Focus ST. It was not. Horribly tuned, lurchy at low speeds, peaky power, constantly pulling timing. To add insult to injury, it had more body roll and handled WORSE than the Focus ST in stock form. It took $2,000 of mods to make it drive decently (Accessport, protune, coilovers). When the 2022 came out, I was skeptical. On one hand, it was ugly as heck. On the other hand, everyone thought the VA was ugly when it came out too. Subaru has a tradition of releasing WRXs that everyone hates for the first two years. So I pulled the trigger, thinking perhaps the 2.4 and stiffer chassis would make a difference. .... Boy did I make a great decision. The VB WRX drives like the Focus ST did, except with AWD. It builds power evenly and with enough force to feel it in your stomache. It grips under all scenarios, has less body roll than the VA, and feels tossable the way that a sport compact should. It has a very satisfying dynamic and throttle feel that was missing in the last car. It drives like a B8.5 Audi S4 (albeit with less power). People have been reliably getting 350WHP out of these cars with just an intake, intercooler, and a tune. These cars are making the same amount of power on $1000 of mods that would've taken $6,000 on the VA. It's ridiculous, and it has been my favorite car that I've ever owned. I like it SO much, in fact, that the looks don't bother me one bit now.
I just got my 23 WRX 2 weeks ago and I absolutely love it. I'm looking into a Cobb Stage 1 right now. I got mine in the Sapphire Blue and I get compliments daily when getting in/out of it while out and about. I hated the fender flares at first but they're starting to grow on me now. I definitely recommend the 23 WRX EDIT: I didn't get the CVT of course
Ditto, I walked in and said if it doesn't have a clutch I don't want it. I did get the red, it looks nice but not as nice as the older WRX. I saw one but needed reliable transportation not something that had 300+K on it. Maybe once I have a house then I'll get my Tokyo drift car.
I came from a 2010 WRX hatch. Bought the VB after a non fault accident. Ive driven every generation of WRX and the VB is easily the best. Makes my 2010 feel like a rickety old tin can. The suspension, the lack of road noise, the power in the higher gears, i loved the look of my 2010 but im starting to like the VBs appearance more.
The head gasket hasn't been an issue for a turbo Subaru for a while. People just always love to abuse the crap out of them and blow them up because of stupidity
I just brought my third WRX. I've owned a 2003, 2011 and now, I drivd the 2022. This is my first WRX with a non-manual transmission. The new SPT is actually pretty fun to drive.
I've seen the black fenders in person, and while I'd assume its probably easier to clean and get grime off of, from a styling perspective I am not a fan :/
I have owned the 22 WRX PS since November…it’s looks are ok…but who cares? It’s the snow driving, wet weather and gravel/dirt road experience that makes it fun and worth it. It also can hoof it on pavement which is enjoyable. I wish it had knobs and buttons for the climate and heated seats more than I care about the plastic bits on the outside…
it looks like a dumb car. look at the lines where the hood scoop is facing you head on they dont even remotely make sense for design the cars nose looks like a vegan whale. people say the wrx was always ugly that is not true at all THIS ONE IS FUCKING UGLY
Subaru will be successful, because they fill a winter driven dd car enthusiast niche. No other company can offer symmetrical awd and a turbo, with good tuning potential, low center of gravity, and a giant aftermarket. Especially for an entry price under $30,000 in 2023.
Ford tried to do too much with the RS. They should have made a AwD ST and called it a day. But nooo. They get greedy and on top of that they made a not so reliable car.
I don’t mind the CVT in my GT. It takes a little getting used to, but for an old guy who’ll never modify the car, it does just fine ripping up and down the dirt roads.
Yeah, you're right! Who needs modern stuff, let's go back to Leaf Springs just like we had for our covered wagons, nothing wrong with leaf Springs, they did what they were designed to do! Just a little bit of knowledge for you, why, if CVT's are No Bl00dy Good (NBG), why oh why did F1 ban them? Because they worked so well and were deemed to be an unfair advantage but I'll kow Tow to your superior knowledge! CVT's have been used for decades in industry, increasing and decreasing machines speed as huge as Printing Presses, add to that, modern technology and neanderthal, knuckle dragging, gear crunching is now a thing of the past! I've had four Scoobies and never had a problem and with no gear changes equals no lose of power. My wife's Lexus is a powerful motor and has a planetary CVT, three years and no problems. Don't tell the missus but when I go out in her Lexus, I totally abuse it!
I had a 17 wrx before this. It got totalled by a moron making an illegal u turn. I planned to buy another VA but honestly a brand new VB was cheaper so I did. Naturally I got a stick. Aside from all the plastics it's better than my VA was in every way. I'm at 18k miles already and not a single problem. It's been a great car, especially in the winter with a set of snows. It's quicker than my VA was with the intake and tune and in another 10k miles or so I'll probably start modding it
To date my favorite car I've ever owned. I've owned a few at 55. Inexpensive coming in at low $30k and solid fun right off the dealership lot. Plenty of room to grow with just bolt ons and a good tune with E85 bringing it to the mid 300 hp range up to 400hp. Makes for a perfect yet hugely fun daily. A few more mods and I can see this making over 400 hp especially if you want to take it to a stage 3 tune and really do some upgrades to the turbo, transmission and down the line. I traded my modded 2015 2D Gti for this and don't regret it one bit.
I bout a 22 premium in January with the 6 speed. The car is so smooth and fun to drive... I put in an ETS cat back exhaust that gave me a much greater sound and I get about 29mpg cruising at 75 on the highway... it's my first wrx I was never big on them but I fell in love with it when I test drove it.. and I can still have a someone around my size fit behind me if we're traveling 🤷♂️
I have one lol. I never really considered buying or even really looked at any wrx before this one and I drove it and I loved it. I came from a base ford focus. This is my first turbo charged and stick shift car. It’s not perfect but from a driving standpoint it goes above and beyond. I don’t have any sort of reference to compare this car to sooooo it’s a 10/10 for me 😂 everyone that’s seen and drove my car say they really like it. Most of the hate seems to be from online. Idk.
Yeah I’m a Honda guy and have driven a decent amount of manuals from other brands too. The stock shifter from the wrx sucks but the clutch feel is nice. The tuning is VERY good from a stock stand point and it rides very well compared to the VA. There is torque EVERYWHERE in the powerband. On top of that, its been making some serious power for a car that can be had for under 30k.
@@ValkenDnB I would highly recommend the Perrin Super Shifter Stop if you want the best bang for buck to get that shifter feeling better. I highly recommended it. I have it and then next I wanna get a new shift knob and a new shifter plate and bushing.
@@ValkenDnB oh that’s my bad. I read your comment as you having one. I wanted an 11th gen si like you but dealerships around here were wanting too much for them. Hope I get to drive one someday 😁
@@Jarn314 I test drove one twice. Dealerships here have the wrx for $4000 under MSRP still. At the time the gas mileage of the wrx made me shy away but I’m more willing to trade in soon since I transferred to a closer work site.
My favorite normal STi is still the GC8, lightest, nimblest, with the hydraulic steering and has edgiest and most useful oriented design. 22B is absolutely the most desired one as a special model.
As an EN owner that was also shopping around for the 23' WRX prior to purchase, I will say it was the battle of the uglies in terms of aesthetics but it is something that grows on you. Another thing I will point out is that both these cars are not photogenic. They both equally look WAY better in person than in photos
Looks of the car took me a while to get use to. It has to be the right color for the observer. The top colors are black, grey, white, and silver IMO. And considering I can pick one up for 3 grand below MSRP, this car is a good deal over the GR Corolla. I also had the chance to test drive both the VA and the VB, but I enjoyed the VB more. Power delivery was linear, nice shifter, smooth clutch, good handling. And now that I'm use to the looks, I can't wait to own one. It's gonna be a premium trim in Silver.
First off, congrats on the new car, thats awesome dude! Second, I can definitely understand that, especially with markups as much as I hate to admit it, I would get one of these over the GR Corolla.
My local dealer is still charging a $15k "market adjustment" on the WRXs lmao I counted 7 of them on the lot and at least 3 of them had been sitting there for months. Wouldn't even let me test drive one
as a long time STI owner I had an inkling of care for the sti version of the VB but after their announcement and the new Impreza “RS” as they call it, I have lost all hope
Subarus are an acquired taste like Guinness. Not for everyone but some people just love them and I love the new model too. Not cheap to get to 400hp though. It will set you back about 10k to get there.
@@itachi2079 ehhh depends brother but if you want top shelf products dp 1.000 intake 350 ap 700 tune 999 brakes to stop oem ones suck ass bout 250-400 fmitc 1500 e85 400 for lines and what not , and wheels suspension can get anywhere from 2000 -3500 plus tires yeah he’s not wrong . Forget about making it look pretty paint match ish is like 1,300 so yea it can easily get pricy especially a Subaru . Don’t get it twisted tho still better money to power ratio then any other Subaru generation period .
I wish they kept the STI. These new wrx pretty much looks like a new camry now. Weak ass power from the factory and if you want real power out of a STI you have to put tons of money into it. Im over having a Subaru so got rid of it
I have an Ignition Red GT and it is an amazing car. The CVT is super fun to play around with and feels surprisingly sturdy. It also handles like a total dream, great car all around for daily driving. and spirited daily driving.
It's awesome for the money. Bought for the handling not straight-line speed, and damn it's tight and sticky. Fender flares look pretty good against white, though the bumper needs work. Lots of fun and yeah, something about the geometry just doesn't translate to 2d media. "Nice car, so clean!" have said several perfect strangers.
First off, congrats on the car dude thats awesome! second, there are a couple at some dealers near me, I can imagine they would probably look 10/10 with a varis style widebody kit or something, its just stock, between the war the front end looks, with the plastic trim, and the rear taillights I'm not a particular fan of those looks.
@@Jerseygarage Hey thanks man, my first new actually! I get that, and for sure there's a lot around the plastic that isn't my favorite. I've seen some great body mods, want to keep mine conservative (well, for now). For a few hundred, mud flaps and a contrasting duck bill really square it up, and I think the honeycomb sport grill could improve the face quite a bit. All the cladding in gloss black, top wrap and the hood scoop to match? That might really work for me.
They dont feel great to drive, despite the displacement and horses its still relatively sluggish, interior is 10 years behind the curve... and the styling is, subjective The car costs $5-$10k more than its worth
Head gaskets is an ej issue. But you start adding power, that thing will pop. They have known issues with oil leaks where the cam carrier bolts to the head.
This generation is my favorite looking generation they’re ever made. I’ve always been a Honda fan and never wanted to go to a WRX but now the new one is so good looking that it’s tempting.
I've picked the CVT. And its amazing, no matter what the JDM purists say. Ofc if you're a street racer, and you want a 350hp car, its a different story. You can get a manual and build your own STI. But for ordinary people like me, who want a capable car, while going to the office and take your family on road trips, you have the CVT/SPT. The car handles really well, and accelerates without delay. It has all the necessary features like heated rear seats, a good audio system, a very reliable interior and its really fun to drive. This CVT takes the best out of the technology, and allows you to enjoy the ride. So if you're having second thoughts about the CVT, don't. Just take it for a test drive and you'll see for yourself. I personally like the design, it's very practical. Those black wheel arches are functional and will not be a problem. Also some small details I've discovered: - the seat heating will remember how you left it, and if you install a remote engine start feature to preheat your car, say in a cold climate, you will have your seats warm when you open it. I live in a cold climate area, and it gets to -30C here, so this is a great perk to have; - the warning lights signal is on a separate plastic button, unlike some modern ones made on a touch screen. So are the window heating and temperature controls. I've learned to appreciate those things; - the car has a autohold function; - the eyesight system is actually helpful, its very well tuned and only works when you actually might need it, without annoying the driver. Overall it is a very comfortable yet capable car that needs no tuning right from the start. Perfect if you're looking for a petrol car in this EV/hybrid era. I just loved it from day one.
I actually like the way it looks. The cladding doesn’t bother me either. No top GT trim with a manual and no Eyesight with manuals is the only thing that annoys me.
@@danielfish101exactly! My biggest gripe with my manual VB is actually too much safety crap. I hate that eyes on the road crap that I have to turn off every single time I drive. But I can live with that being my biggest gripe with the car.
owned? none, well I got to borrow a blob eye and a VA for a weekend, both STIs, both were alright, not great, not terrible. driven? just about all of them from the OG Impreza, I'd say about half were base WRXs half STIs, like I said before, nothing in particular blew me away about them, but for the price, they are pretty good Have yet to drive the VB, but I don't plan on ever doing it. The direction Subaru is taking their company is not something I am a fan of
@@Jerseygarage Subaru fans are always upset with the companies direction. I was disappointed when they got rid of the blob eye 👁️ WRX. I was disappointed in the new FA engine platform. Now that I've experienced the FA and especially the new FA24 engine platform. I can say Subaru engineers have given the fans a wonderful platform.
I’ve got a 2022 Base MT and have been driving it for a month or two now. It’s my first ever WRX and honestly I can’t complain, maybe it’s just because I’m rather new to the enthusiast scene, however I cannot find anything wrong that makes me hate the car. It’s perfect to me.
In terms of styling, I don’t hate it. There is a good amount of after market parts that you can switch the cladding out for, if your not into that. That really helps changes people minds in the looks from what I’ve seen. In terms of internals, I like the direction the new TR trim is taking the platform, I just wish they made a better trans available with that trim as well. If they could have stuck the STI trans in that package, I think that would have made 90% percent of the STi community happy. Even with about improving the stock power.
I come from 2 VAs and they were inferior in every fiber of existence vs the VB. I was never a fan of the VA chasis as it looked like a very plain car. My initial reaction from seeing the VB for the first time in video was very neutral but I did see it was unique from everything out there. Perception of beauty is really a personal thing and it is sad to see a lot of haters hating the cladding for no reason…maybe to gain the attention of those who were upset at the fact that there will be no STI variation but that doesn’t take the fact away that the production of the VB is really a good one. After 8 months of owning one, I’m blown away of how superior the FA24 is. Overall, the car feels incredibly strong. I’ve only done 2 bolt on and a 93 tune and boy this car is fast and makes great turbo noises. Anyway, only VB owners or those who have test driven one knows how great this car is. I’m not going to paint match the clad but would love to put on the Seibon carbon fiber cladding 😎
whatever you do, please just get rid of the factory cladding. But yeah like everyone has said they handle like its gods own subaru, its just the front end look I can't get past maybe if they update it I'd like it more but it just looks too much like a hog.
This is my 4th subaru. Ive had almost every gen lol. An 02 bugeye wagon, 09 wrx hatch, and a 2017 wrx. Now a 2023 wrx. By far this new gen corrected everything wrong with the 2016-2021 wrx’s. May not be the prettiest but, in terms of performance, interior, it’s better in every way. Plus the reliability of the FA24 motor which is putting down 350awhp on a stock motor. Kind of crazy tbh. Good power for a daily tbh while still maintaining decent MPG. For the flat 30k market there is no better car at this price point. I got mine at msrp for 28.5k out the door with a 5k down.
Note, the previous WRX also had a CVT gearbox, which is something that no one seems to realize. Making it seem like only today's one has. Hypocrisy much?
I said it was introduced in the VA, they were crap then, and they are crap no, doesn't matter if its in a Lambo or a Mitsubishi Mirage, but I also understand your angle that is something a lot of people don't realize and use it against the VB, even tho, the VA used it as well.
@@Jerseygarage I feel your opinion too man. If only people could understand. Also sidetrack, could you please do a video about the new Integra and why it's not that bad like everyone says it is? Like people want it to be a Coupe, I get that but Coupes sell like dumpsterfire and their excuse is the BMW 2 Series. They also act like previous Integra's were CR-V's and not a Civic...
@@OpheliaViolet-Z07 I got a list I’m adding it to right now, but I understand the pain. People had the mindset it was going to be a retro throwback, when Acura had always been clear that is was going to be a modern take on what the integra should be. If it’s anything like the new NSX, people will appreciate it in a few years :)
Its funny how many people are throwing a tantrum over this car when everything is better than the VA STI minus the Trans/Diffs & Brakes. Seriously, we got 87% of an STI for $30k. Why are people whining about this? Do the upgrades with the money you save and enjoy if you really care that much. This car is so underrated it hurts. Sure the plastic sucks but just get it painted or buy the Grey one? Test drive one, seriously...
I point that out, I think the tuning capabilities of these will be serious, like every car, there are pros and cons to this. The plastic trim AND the front end look, along with no STI will mean I probably won't ever buy one. HOWEVER the transmission is great and notchy, the power delivery is more linear than the VA, and the interior is a much much MUCH nicer place to be than the VA, at the end there it was definitely showing its age.
How hard/ spirited do you drive your daily car to utilize all of that?? Not hating but if thats a breaking point for you to leave the brand, you must really drive the shit out of your subaru everyday
Went from owning a Bugeye (engine blew), to the 2022 WRX. I love it. I got MGM, and atm its just stock minus the tip swap for Remark... Paint matching the plastic is the way to go imo, and the power/handling is Wildly different compared to most other cars i've driven... Understanding that having the highest class in automatic (cvt), the CVT is really not that horrible compared to the previous generations and even other cars... I understand its a turn off to 80% of the community - but for someone whos married to someone who can't drive stick to save their life - this is a clutch car to own. (As the owner, I do miss stick, hoping one day subie decides to give it to us and i'll snag a model and give the wife the 2022).
Everyone has said the handling on these new WRXs is mental, I'm inclined to believe them as it looks from the outside like a very balanced car. I just idk what it is, I can't bring myself to buy a vehicle with a CVT in it. (P.S., a bugeye blowing up, there's a first)
And it's wasn't even an issue with the STi EJ engine, but the Naturally Aspirated versions of the EJ that use cheaper headgaskets than the Multi-Layer Steel ones used on the WRX / STi. Oil pickup and proper Baffling is a concern with oil starvation though if you track these machines.
@@roygillotti4615 Aaahhh gotcha. It's one of those things that someone probably heard online or experienced and got amplified through the Internet campfire game. I'm glad to have an FA in my '19 WRX but that EJ rumble... mine doesn't sound like that hehe
@@maxpeck4154 I actually had the STi Transmission/Drivetrain swapped into my '19 WRX... I feel FA + STi Transmission was a good combo Subaru didn't give us.
@@roygillotti4615 I've heard that the STi transmission is the direct linkage one vs the cable-actuated one in my WRX? If that's what you mean I've heard that as well, but the one in my 19 WRX is by no means bad
@@maxpeck4154 direct linkage, rear diff is limited slip also, DCCD system can be set in multiple ways and can send most of the torque to the rear... so much better all around.
My girlfriend just picked a 2022 up for 34k with 4k miles on it at first totally hated the look especially on pictures and then I drove it and saw it in person, it’s taking me a little but it’s most definitely growing on me especially since for 1k u can pick up paint matched fenders and it makes the car look a million times better in my opinion
Bought my first WRX a few months ago -- a 2023 Limited in Sapphire Blue with the 6-speed. I would have gotten the GT if it weren't for the mandatory CVT. It's a lot of fun to drive stock. I'm doing the cosmetic upgrades I want now and plan to look into increasing performance later. I'd just like to get it up around 350 hp. The aftermarket options on these is great.
I got mine last November light silver limited 6speed I’ve only changed to the maf performance exhaust and plan to put a turbosmart BOV and CoBB intake with a tune then itasha it for memes
everyone hyping up the new wrx but ive heard stories of sparkly oil and im not surprised. to say these are better than the last gen is crazy we havent even seen what happens long term
Everyone talks about the head gasket issue, you know that’s only really applies to the N/A EJ engines from the early 2000’s 🙄 The turbo EJ’s didn’t have a head gasket problem… The internet saw Subaru head gasket issue and just ran with it….
Damn, while disappointed the GT is not a manual, and theres no sti, this is the first WRX i’ve ever wanted due primarily to its looks. For me it looks like how i envision an on/off road car. And also love how it doesnt look like any other sedan currently out there. Does need better brakes though. But all other enthusiast driving attributes about it are pretty awesome. I ended up with a Limited in ceramic white (wish i could ditch the sunroof though)
Why don't you like the sunroof? I was starting to regret not getting limited. I got the premium. I hope I can switch the interior panels later on. Doors cards look mehhh.
I just dont like enthusiast cars with a sunroof but also never use a sunroof ever. Just a quirk of mine. I prefer a manual and slick top. But definitely prefer the interior and finishes and the seats of the limited. Ideally i’d like a manual premium with recwros.
Subaru went from a 2L to a 2.4L engine, and gained 3HP. Anyone that knows cars, knows that vehicles are severely detuned from factory. Those numbers tell me this is even more of an extreme example (to meet emissions and EPA guidelines). Once tuners have this platform on lock, I wouldn't be surprised if 350-375 is rock stable and cheap
Never driven the new rex. But from what I’ve heard and read, it’s been a great performer. The deal breaker for me is there’s no hatch. I need the cargo space. My blob eye wagon was special but also from a different time. And the last hatch (14) did not handle as well as the 15+ sedan-only chassis. I’ll never buy an RS and cannot get over the 45k+ tag for a GR corolla. Subie, just give us another WRX hatch. It doesn’t even need to be an STI!
I'm happy with my 2013. I feel like that was the last best generation of the real soul and feeling of a WRX. The sound, the feeling, the widest body of any rivaling the 22B.
Got the VB in World Rally Blue and GT trim since August last year and have noticed more and more of the VB on the road lately. The fenders do bother me but there are already aftermarket fenders carbon fiber so excited to see different options as time goes on as that is one part I really want to change out. Something I have noticed with the VB I see around in SoCal is a few girls driving and modifying theirs. Seems like the mass market approach and discounts on it is allowing more and more folks to access this car. Plus seems like Subaru really is churning these out or demand isn't super high on them so my local dealer just had them readily available on the lot even back when cars were harder to get last year. Still seeing all the discounts folks are getting on them makes me think we should be seeing more soon. I was originally aiming for the GR Corolla but have been quoted such crazy prices for markup going to $30k over last year it's killed my enthusiasm for it. I do know my CVT is fragile but seen folks online saying they been using few tunes to get theirs to 300 whp stock and been running that fine for few months without blowing the transmission makes me kinda tempted. Really enjoy my car and hope the community does come around to it eventually. Even had a VA driver at a light come up to my window and say he test drove one and the VB handled lot better than his VA but just the looks held him back on pulling trigger on one.
The wife and I are almost 50 and love our ‘22 WRX GT. I wouldn’t drive my ‘15 STi any faster than the ‘22 and I don’t feel like I’ve been in a fight after 250 miles. My kids will have to sell the STi when I’m dead, but shes nowhere near the car overall that the ‘22 is.
I think if you pair the new fa24 with the STI drivetrain you could create a great street car but as you stated subaru kept the crappy cable driven split case transmission in this new WRX personally I have a VA WRX with a full STI drivetrain swap n I’ll never get rid of it It’s the car Subaru SHOULD of came out with anyway great video!!!
If they came out with an updated version of the VA drivetrain, making AT LEAST 350, but it should be rounded up to 400, then no one would care about the looks, myself included. It’s just the issue that the car doesn’t look great, and making the CVT the ONLY transmission option in the top trim level, whatever drug Subarus board of directors is taking, I want some, because that is an actually MENTAL decision.
From an average joe perspective it’s not a good car. From an enthusiasts perspective it’s not a good car at all. From a wrx perspective it’s the worst Subaru ever made and does not deserve the name. From Subaru perspective it’s there baby💀😂.
From an average Joe perspective its not a good car? 29,000$ for an almost 300hp spacious 4 door AWD vehicle with a turbo? From a WRX perspective its the worst? Why? because its the best handling most tuneable WRX yet? Lol. You’re clueless. Ive driven everu Gen of WRX and its easily the best yet.
I'm actually ok with the flares, as the amount of gravel where I live KILLS paint around wheel arches. I might price one of these out here in Canada. Go blue, and put a 555 livery on it.
People need to stop whining about this car. For $30k you get a fun, 270+HP AWD enthusiast car with a 6mt. This will be the last of its kind, as we all know the future is boring electric.
something is better than nothing, its something I always say to people who complain about cars like this/hybrid cars etc. With that being said, just because its the last of its kind, doesn't mean its immune from criticism, and this car has some big issues I am not a fan of
@@Jerseygarage what's the big issue? The only issue I see is the sheep mentality of the so called car enthusiasts. You guys hate on everything that you don't own. It's a toxic community of sheep now.
Its pretty tame looking man lol looks like a crosstrek with a hood scoop. Not hating, but havent seen a new one yet and thought it looks aggressive. It aint bad tho.
@@shad3128 I think it looks really aggressive, especially compared to the VA. I love the front of the VA but the side and rear view looks like an economy car/ soccer mom car.
@@8JFJK8disagree this new wrx looks like a cross trek sedan, way to high ground clearance long and sleek. The last generation looks way better shorter,lower and bulkier beefy looking. I eve seen quite a few on the road and it’s even hard to tell it’s a wrx. Big miss in my book but I understand if someone bought this car they would say this one looks better. I’m glad I bought my 21 Sti new and won’t be parting with it anytime soon.
and maybe instead of a belt, there could be these machined pieces of metal, idk maybe call them gears or something, and they can pre-select a ratio for you!
@@Jerseygarage yep that's also good idea Even tho metal gears with probably make a alot of noise Cuz alot of metal is gonna be grinding on another piece of metal since I'm not sure if it can be(hellical? The kinda curvy gears) it has to be straight cut gears
@@THEANIMALGUY now if only there was something, a liquid maybe, that we could use that would help make those gears last longer, possibly a fluid, that way it helps lubricate said gears.
I think you are being a little too harsh on the car. Remember every wrx/impreza that came out has been met with criticism on their looks, but now for no reason at all, everyone says the older ones look good all of a sudden. I think its a bit unfair that subaru is trying to change a look that was previously criticised while needing to be within their development budget to make the car drive better, update interior, meet new legislative guidelines, and when they finally think they've done it, the community turns around and shits on the new car look, and for no reason start to trophie the previous gen's look. On the topic of head gasket, I heard they fixed the newer gen's, and if you buy em new, they are fairly reliable. And for power, like the stock honestly gives you more than you'll need for a little fun on the weekend. As for putting in a bigger turbo and concern on the extra horsepower require you to put in a new transmission. From what I've heard, the new wrx stock can handle quite a bit of extra horsepower. like around 350ish hp and around that area too for torque. But like honestly if you want a bigger turbo in a car, the transmission would be one of the many many many things that you should consider on changing and thats for all cars, not just the wrx.
I do hope to get big, however, I don't plan on not responding to your guys' and gals comments, you literally have made me who I am, I can't thank yall enough!
ahhhhhhhh idkkkkkk. The engines in the VA aren't as bad as the ones in the Hawkeye and bugeye, but there's no denying they have their issues. Even still I say in the video that meme culture has blown it way out of proportion, its not that bad.
I wanted to get 2016-2020 wrx but I'm running out of time to make a decision. So I'm really leaning towards the newer model with manual, but Idk if it's a good choice
Not a Subie guy and never owned one, but always liked these rally type cars, and personally I don't agree with your assessment of this new one being "ugly." Looks pretty cool to me. But to each their own.
I own a 2012 Dodge Challenger and bought a 2024 Legacy for my mother in law (because Honda and Toyotas are overpriced and not available). After driving it I am shocked how nice of a car it is. I am heading to the dealership to test drive a 6-speed WRX. I just got to know for myself.
I just got a 2008 hatch subaru impreza and i legit love it iv never owned a subaru but how they handle and drive is amazing ill never be able to afford a 2023 or anything but this is my second car! and ik there known for oil leaks which mine has. its getting fixe thank god but is there anything i need to know or watch out for with this year and make? asides from that like i said it ran great! told me its a headgasket leak which im hoping can be fixed... idk much about subaru but im learning :)
You just gotta keep an eye on those headgaskets watch out for things like your coolant getting a little cloudy or oil dripping from the car when its parked, those are some basic signs of a leaky headgasket, aside from that, they are pretty solid in terms of reliability to my understanding, excellent vehicle choice BTW that era of imprezas are awesome. My best recommendation is look on forums on the internet, and watch videos on youtube about your specific car, if you have any problem at all, some guy 8 years ago on some random forum already had it, and has a perfect fix for it. Good Luck with your car dude, I hope it turns out to be everything you want it to be!
@@Jerseygarage yeah the Rex was one of my dream car to own but they just ruined it. They tried to make it look like a crossover I guess to increase sales. For me it's dead like the evo.
I'm wondering how that plastic cladding will look after a few years of the sun beating the sh*t out of it. On my Kia Sorento, the black plastic trim faded over time.
Just bought a 22 WRX (VB) and it's actually a great car. I purchased a 2016 WRX brand new off the truck (unwrapped it myself and bought it after the test drive). The handling out of the box for the 22' is super impressive. Can't comment on the tuning potential as I'm enjoying it stock for now. My biggest gripe is the sound system. Dogshit.
Harman Kardon@@nateafcsouth. I had a 2013 Lexus GX460 prior to this car and it had a Mark Levinson sound system that puts this car's system to shame. It's really awful. I'll be upgrading it asap.
Are you actually a fan of the new WRX? Do you think the hype is there?
Hmmm, No. I was wiped when they announced the release of a new WRX, I saw the release live on TH-cam. When they showed the car, I almost cried. My wipe died.....
@@brunex_247 a lot of people would agree with that
No, I'd prefer to get the GD Gen, even if It's less reliable
Grows on me but my favorite is still the GD, GG and GR Hatchback.
@@egg0534 yeah I can understand that
I’ve had 3 Si’s over the years. Never seriously considered a WRX. Sat in it and drove it and bought. Probably my favorite car yet.
everyone I've talked with said that they have loved the way it handles, I can imagine its gotta be a balanced drive.
@@Jerseygarage O’man, handling is unbelievable! Now that it’s getting warmer and the stock summer tires are sticking, it’s crazy. I’ve not found it’s limit yet. I use to toss and slide the Si’s around but this car just has a totally different feel.
Wow... surprising yet not really.
If you sat in and drove an STI you would’ve been in love.
@@Anonymoose0913 Maybe. I love the older and raw feeling of the older Si and assume the STI has similar. At my age though, I like the comfort of the VB.
The VB WRX drives like a dream and of course the FA24 is whopping the EJ with bolt on and a tune. I honestly do not buy used Subarus and much less an STI. The choice was simple when I drove the VB WRX it handles VERY WELL. Also, I don’t buy performance cars for looks if I did I’d be driving a German car.
People will start loving the car once it's discontinued. Although I've noticed most of the hate is mostly on the Internet, in real life they're selling well, and actually get compliments.
there's an argument to be made for that, I think its all over the place. I drive by some dealers, and they have like 5 or 6 on their lots and are selling them at like 1-2k under sticker, others don't have any and whatever they do have they are marking up.
I just can't stand the plastic trim on the wheel wells
@@Jerseygarage The plastic used to bother me, but now it doesn't. Seeing it in person, around the area, and going to test drive one, I was no longer bothered by them.
I have one see alotnof them the biggest hate I've heard and felt personally was the plastic cladding but the after market support is great soo there's a way around it
Wrx is the best value for performance and it's a jack of all trades.
Win/win.
Fun fact: every time a new WRX generation was released, the general consensus was/is that it's ugly, every single time since 2002 when the Bug eye came to the US
I just bought a 2023 WRX ignition red and I couldn’t be happier. It came with an off road package all oem parts. It’s lifted 2” and came with all terrain tires. It looks like a rally car and handles great! For me this car gives me everything I need.
I bought one in November. Same color. It’s a great car! First gear is too short though. I call it the snow gear. I live in Phoenix.
Owned an Infiniti G37. Was "fast" but the V6 meant that it felt smooth, but without much "in your stomach" acceleration feel.
Switched to a Focus ST because I wanted the BOOOST life. Absolutely adored that car. The way it turned, the way it accelerated, everything about that car was fantastic... Except the FWD. Rain, flooring from turns, or trying to get out the gate first at a stoplight were exercises in frustration.
Couldn't handle the FWD anymore after a while. Got a C55 AMG. Fantastically, brutally fast car. Horrible on gas, maintenance, insurance, and basically everything else. It also did not handle anywhere near as well as the Focus. Felt heavier and definitely missed the tossable nature of the Focus.
Got a 2019 VA WRX expecting it to be like an AWD Focus ST. It was not. Horribly tuned, lurchy at low speeds, peaky power, constantly pulling timing. To add insult to injury, it had more body roll and handled WORSE than the Focus ST in stock form. It took $2,000 of mods to make it drive decently (Accessport, protune, coilovers).
When the 2022 came out, I was skeptical. On one hand, it was ugly as heck. On the other hand, everyone thought the VA was ugly when it came out too. Subaru has a tradition of releasing WRXs that everyone hates for the first two years. So I pulled the trigger, thinking perhaps the 2.4 and stiffer chassis would make a difference.
.... Boy did I make a great decision.
The VB WRX drives like the Focus ST did, except with AWD. It builds power evenly and with enough force to feel it in your stomache. It grips under all scenarios, has less body roll than the VA, and feels tossable the way that a sport compact should. It has a very satisfying dynamic and throttle feel that was missing in the last car. It drives like a B8.5 Audi S4 (albeit with less power).
People have been reliably getting 350WHP out of these cars with just an intake, intercooler, and a tune. These cars are making the same amount of power on $1000 of mods that would've taken $6,000 on the VA. It's ridiculous, and it has been my favorite car that I've ever owned.
I like it SO much, in fact, that the looks don't bother me one bit now.
@@LaughDragon Why bother commenting? lmo
@J M I read it 🤝 and now I'm gonna reread it just cuz you said nobody would read it from the jump.
I also read it... I've also owned basically the same cars and agree
I just got my 23 WRX 2 weeks ago and I absolutely love it. I'm looking into a Cobb Stage 1 right now. I got mine in the Sapphire Blue and I get compliments daily when getting in/out of it while out and about. I hated the fender flares at first but they're starting to grow on me now. I definitely recommend the 23 WRX
EDIT: I didn't get the CVT of course
Same! Two weeks ago, 2023 ceramic white 6MT. Love it!
Ditto, I walked in and said if it doesn't have a clutch I don't want it. I did get the red, it looks nice but not as nice as the older WRX. I saw one but needed reliable transportation not something that had 300+K on it. Maybe once I have a house then I'll get my Tokyo drift car.
I owned a VA and absolutely hated it. Drove one of these and bought it the same day. Leaps and bounds above the VA.
I came from a 2010 WRX hatch. Bought the VB after a non fault accident. Ive driven every generation of WRX and the VB is easily the best. Makes my 2010 feel like a rickety old tin can. The suspension, the lack of road noise, the power in the higher gears, i loved the look of my 2010 but im starting to like the VBs appearance more.
@@8JFJK8 VB isn't a looker, but she's a lot of fun.
A 300HP four cylinder engine is INSANE. Also, I don't think the head gasket is a problem post-2015/16. Then again, at 300HP who knows?
The head gasket hasn't been an issue for a turbo Subaru for a while. People just always love to abuse the crap out of them and blow them up because of stupidity
I just brought my third WRX. I've owned a 2003, 2011 and now, I drivd the 2022. This is my first WRX with a non-manual transmission. The new SPT is actually pretty fun to drive.
At first I didn't like the black fender flares but I'll be honest they have really grown on me. It looks so much better in person.
I've seen the black fenders in person, and while I'd assume its probably easier to clean and get grime off of, from a styling perspective I am not a fan :/
I have owned the 22 WRX PS since November…it’s looks are ok…but who cares? It’s the snow driving, wet weather and gravel/dirt road experience that makes it fun and worth it. It also can hoof it on pavement which is enjoyable. I wish it had knobs and buttons for the climate and heated seats more than I care about the plastic bits on the outside…
No, no it doesn’t lol
Yea. I didnt really like pics off it but when i started seeing them in person i started loving how it looks
it looks like a dumb car. look at the lines where the hood scoop is facing you head on they dont even remotely make sense for design the cars nose looks like a vegan whale. people say the wrx was always ugly that is not true at all THIS ONE IS FUCKING UGLY
Subaru will be successful, because they fill a winter driven dd car enthusiast niche. No other company can offer symmetrical awd and a turbo, with good tuning potential, low center of gravity, and a giant aftermarket. Especially for an entry price under $30,000 in 2023.
Ford tried to do too much with the RS. They should have made a AwD ST and called it a day. But nooo. They get greedy and on top of that they made a not so reliable car.
It’s a good looking ride, I’m glad they improved the CVT to be more performance focused
I don’t mind the CVT in my GT. It takes a little getting used to, but for an old guy who’ll never modify the car, it does just fine ripping up and down the dirt roads.
Yeah, you're right! Who needs modern stuff, let's go back to Leaf Springs just like we had for our covered wagons, nothing wrong with leaf Springs, they did what they were designed to do!
Just a little bit of knowledge for you, why, if CVT's are No Bl00dy Good (NBG), why oh why did F1 ban them? Because they worked so well and were deemed to be an unfair advantage but I'll kow Tow to your superior knowledge!
CVT's have been used for decades in industry, increasing and decreasing machines speed as huge as Printing Presses, add to that, modern technology and neanderthal, knuckle dragging, gear crunching is now a thing of the past!
I've had four Scoobies and never had a problem and with no gear changes equals no lose of power. My wife's Lexus is a powerful motor and has a planetary CVT, three years and no problems. Don't tell the missus but when I go out in her Lexus, I totally abuse it!
I had a 17 wrx before this. It got totalled by a moron making an illegal u turn. I planned to buy another VA but honestly a brand new VB was cheaper so I did.
Naturally I got a stick. Aside from all the plastics it's better than my VA was in every way. I'm at 18k miles already and not a single problem. It's been a great car, especially in the winter with a set of snows. It's quicker than my VA was with the intake and tune and in another 10k miles or so I'll probably start modding it
To date my favorite car I've ever owned. I've owned a few at 55. Inexpensive coming in at low $30k and solid fun right off the dealership lot. Plenty of room to grow with just bolt ons and a good tune with E85 bringing it to the mid 300 hp range up to 400hp. Makes for a perfect yet hugely fun daily. A few more mods and I can see this making over 400 hp especially if you want to take it to a stage 3 tune and really do some upgrades to the turbo, transmission and down the line. I traded my modded 2015 2D Gti for this and don't regret it one bit.
I bout a 22 premium in January with the 6 speed. The car is so smooth and fun to drive... I put in an ETS cat back exhaust that gave me a much greater sound and I get about 29mpg cruising at 75 on the highway... it's my first wrx I was never big on them but I fell in love with it when I test drove it.. and I can still have a someone around my size fit behind me if we're traveling 🤷♂️
I have one lol. I never really considered buying or even really looked at any wrx before this one and I drove it and I loved it. I came from a base ford focus. This is my first turbo charged and stick shift car. It’s not perfect but from a driving standpoint it goes above and beyond. I don’t have any sort of reference to compare this car to sooooo it’s a 10/10 for me 😂 everyone that’s seen and drove my car say they really like it. Most of the hate seems to be from online. Idk.
Yeah I’m a Honda guy and have driven a decent amount of manuals from other brands too. The stock shifter from the wrx sucks but the clutch feel is nice. The tuning is VERY good from a stock stand point and it rides very well compared to the VA. There is torque EVERYWHERE in the powerband. On top of that, its been making some serious power for a car that can be had for under 30k.
@@ValkenDnB I would highly recommend the Perrin Super Shifter Stop if you want the best bang for buck to get that shifter feeling better. I highly recommended it. I have it and then next I wanna get a new shift knob and a new shifter plate and bushing.
@@Jarn314 I’ll probably look into it if I end up trading in my 2022 civic si for one in a year or two.
@@ValkenDnB oh that’s my bad. I read your comment as you having one. I wanted an 11th gen si like you but dealerships around here were wanting too much for them. Hope I get to drive one someday 😁
@@Jarn314 I test drove one twice. Dealerships here have the wrx for $4000 under MSRP still. At the time the gas mileage of the wrx made me shy away but I’m more willing to trade in soon since I transferred to a closer work site.
My favorite normal STi is still the GC8, lightest, nimblest, with the hydraulic steering and has edgiest and most useful oriented design.
22B is absolutely the most desired one as a special model.
I don't consider myself a fan of subarus, but even I would LOVE to make a rally build with a 22B
Imo, the Elantra N is the ugliest performance car on the market.
I'm assuming your parents dropped you when you were younger
@@Jerseygarage Elantra N looks like a soccer mom car bro. If you think the N looks good and the WRX looks bad you’ve had a stroke call an ambulance 🚑
I would say the same thing too if my mom smoked when she was pregnant with me
As an EN owner that was also shopping around for the 23' WRX prior to purchase, I will say it was the battle of the uglies in terms of aesthetics but it is something that grows on you. Another thing I will point out is that both these cars are not photogenic. They both equally look WAY better in person than in photos
@@burblen7818 I really like the look of the Elantra N tbh
Looks of the car took me a while to get use to. It has to be the right color for the observer. The top colors are black, grey, white, and silver IMO. And considering I can pick one up for 3 grand below MSRP, this car is a good deal over the GR Corolla.
I also had the chance to test drive both the VA and the VB, but I enjoyed the VB more. Power delivery was linear, nice shifter, smooth clutch, good handling. And now that I'm use to the looks, I can't wait to own one. It's gonna be a premium trim in Silver.
First off, congrats on the new car, thats awesome dude! Second, I can definitely understand that, especially with markups as much as I hate to admit it, I would get one of these over the GR Corolla.
My local dealer is still charging a $15k "market adjustment" on the WRXs lmao
I counted 7 of them on the lot and at least 3 of them had been sitting there for months. Wouldn't even let me test drive one
WR blue is the best colour, only cause the blue with the black plastic actually looks good 👍🏼
@@salmonjerky Sewell subaru in Dallas tx does no mark ups if that helps finding one, apr rates on the ‘23s are 4.9-6.9%
Lots of info crammed into this vid with great presentation! I thought from the thumbnail that there was gonna be a 2023 with 400hp! LOL
as a long time STI owner I had an inkling of care for the sti version of the VB but after their announcement and the new Impreza “RS” as they call it, I have lost all hope
Subarus are an acquired taste like Guinness. Not for everyone but some people just love them and I love the new model too. Not cheap to get to 400hp though. It will set you back about 10k to get there.
For 1100 my friend got the JB4 and an perrin cold air intake and he's at 353 whp. For 10k you could probably get it to 500
@@itachi2079 ehhh depends brother but if you want top shelf products dp 1.000 intake 350 ap 700 tune 999 brakes to stop oem ones suck ass bout 250-400 fmitc 1500 e85 400 for lines and what not , and wheels suspension can get anywhere from 2000 -3500 plus tires yeah he’s not wrong . Forget about making it look pretty paint match ish is like 1,300 so yea it can easily get pricy especially a Subaru . Don’t get it twisted tho still better money to power ratio then any other Subaru generation period .
400 for this gen is intake down pipe and tube so maybe 2500
I wish they kept the STI. These new wrx pretty much looks like a new camry now. Weak ass power from the factory and if you want real power out of a STI you have to put tons of money into it. Im over having a Subaru so got rid of it
I have an Ignition Red GT and it is an amazing car. The CVT is super fun to play around with and feels surprisingly sturdy. It also handles like a total dream, great car all around for daily driving. and spirited daily driving.
I can only afford premium 😆
It's awesome for the money. Bought for the handling not straight-line speed, and damn it's tight and sticky. Fender flares look pretty good against white, though the bumper needs work. Lots of fun and yeah, something about the geometry just doesn't translate to 2d media. "Nice car, so clean!" have said several perfect strangers.
First off, congrats on the car dude thats awesome!
second, there are a couple at some dealers near me, I can imagine they would probably look 10/10 with a varis style widebody kit or something, its just stock, between the war the front end looks, with the plastic trim, and the rear taillights I'm not a particular fan of those looks.
@@Jerseygarage Hey thanks man, my first new actually! I get that, and for sure there's a lot around the plastic that isn't my favorite. I've seen some great body mods, want to keep mine conservative (well, for now). For a few hundred, mud flaps and a contrasting duck bill really square it up, and I think the honeycomb sport grill could improve the face quite a bit. All the cladding in gloss black, top wrap and the hood scoop to match? That might really work for me.
They dont feel great to drive, despite the displacement and horses its still relatively sluggish, interior is 10 years behind the curve... and the styling is, subjective
The car costs $5-$10k more than its worth
Head gaskets is an ej issue. But you start adding power, that thing will pop. They have known issues with oil leaks where the cam carrier bolts to the head.
This generation is my favorite looking generation they’re ever made. I’ve always been a Honda fan and never wanted to go to a WRX but now the new one is so good looking that it’s tempting.
I've picked the CVT. And its amazing, no matter what the JDM purists say.
Ofc if you're a street racer, and you want a 350hp car, its a different story. You can get a manual and build your own STI.
But for ordinary people like me, who want a capable car, while going to the office and take your family on road trips, you have the CVT/SPT.
The car handles really well, and accelerates without delay. It has all the necessary features like heated rear seats, a good audio system, a very reliable interior and its really fun to drive. This CVT takes the best out of the technology, and allows you to enjoy the ride.
So if you're having second thoughts about the CVT, don't. Just take it for a test drive and you'll see for yourself.
I personally like the design, it's very practical. Those black wheel arches are functional and will not be a problem.
Also some small details I've discovered:
- the seat heating will remember how you left it, and if you install a remote engine start feature to preheat your car, say in a cold climate, you will have your seats warm when you open it. I live in a cold climate area, and it gets to -30C here, so this is a great perk to have;
- the warning lights signal is on a separate plastic button, unlike some modern ones made on a touch screen. So are the window heating and temperature controls. I've learned to appreciate those things;
- the car has a autohold function;
- the eyesight system is actually helpful, its very well tuned and only works when you actually might need it, without annoying the driver.
Overall it is a very comfortable yet capable car that needs no tuning right from the start. Perfect if you're looking for a petrol car in this EV/hybrid era. I just loved it from day one.
RIP Ken Block.
fastest car in a confused maze track
I actually like the way it looks. The cladding doesn’t bother me either. No top GT trim with a manual and no Eyesight with manuals is the only thing that annoys me.
Psh don't need that anyways, hate all that safety crap. Put ur phone down and pay attention
@@danielfish101exactly! My biggest gripe with my manual VB is actually too much safety crap. I hate that eyes on the road crap that I have to turn off every single time I drive. But I can live with that being my biggest gripe with the car.
I love and will always love the WRX.
It is a bargain and this latest version does not disappoint.
What versions have you owned?
owned? none, well I got to borrow a blob eye and a VA for a weekend, both STIs, both were alright, not great, not terrible.
driven? just about all of them from the OG Impreza, I'd say about half were base WRXs half STIs, like I said before, nothing in particular blew me away about them, but for the price, they are pretty good
Have yet to drive the VB, but I don't plan on ever doing it. The direction Subaru is taking their company is not something I am a fan of
@@Jerseygarage Subaru fans are always upset with the companies direction. I was disappointed when they got rid of the blob eye 👁️ WRX. I was disappointed in the new FA engine platform.
Now that I've experienced the FA and especially the new FA24 engine platform. I can say Subaru engineers have given the fans a wonderful platform.
wrx looks awesome to me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I disagree BUT I get it, there are not so pretty cars I'm in love with like the Fiat Multipla, the heart wants what the heart wants
I’ve got a 2022 Base MT and have been driving it for a month or two now. It’s my first ever WRX and honestly I can’t complain, maybe it’s just because I’m rather new to the enthusiast scene, however I cannot find anything wrong that makes me hate the car. It’s perfect to me.
In terms of styling, I don’t hate it. There is a good amount of after market parts that you can switch the cladding out for, if your not into that. That really helps changes people minds in the looks from what I’ve seen.
In terms of internals, I like the direction the new TR trim is taking the platform, I just wish they made a better trans available with that trim as well. If they could have stuck the STI trans in that package, I think that would have made 90% percent of the STi community happy. Even with about improving the stock power.
I come from 2 VAs and they were inferior in every fiber of existence vs the VB. I was never a fan of the VA chasis as it looked like a very plain car. My initial reaction from seeing the VB for the first time in video was very neutral but I did see it was unique from everything out there. Perception of beauty is really a personal thing and it is sad to see a lot of haters hating the cladding for no reason…maybe to gain the attention of those who were upset at the fact that there will be no STI variation but that doesn’t take the fact away that the production of the VB is really a good one. After 8 months of owning one, I’m blown away of how superior the FA24 is. Overall, the car feels incredibly strong. I’ve only done 2 bolt on and a 93 tune and boy this car is fast and makes great turbo noises. Anyway, only VB owners or those who have test driven one knows how great this car is. I’m not going to paint match the clad but would love to put on the Seibon carbon fiber cladding 😎
whatever you do, please just get rid of the factory cladding. But yeah like everyone has said they handle like its gods own subaru, its just the front end look I can't get past maybe if they update it I'd like it more but it just looks too much like a hog.
I'm under the impression that this is actually a great daily driver to have fun in. I'll never tune my car, so I'm happy it exists.
I have a 23 wrx gt, and its fun to drive. No issues so far. CVT feels fine. It rips too.
This is my 4th subaru. Ive had almost every gen lol. An 02 bugeye wagon, 09 wrx hatch, and a 2017 wrx. Now a 2023 wrx. By far this new gen corrected everything wrong with the 2016-2021 wrx’s. May not be the prettiest but, in terms of performance, interior, it’s better in every way. Plus the reliability of the FA24 motor which is putting down 350awhp on a stock motor. Kind of crazy tbh. Good power for a daily tbh while still maintaining decent MPG. For the flat 30k market there is no better car at this price point. I got mine at msrp for 28.5k out the door with a 5k down.
Note, the previous WRX also had a CVT gearbox, which is something that no one seems to realize. Making it seem like only today's one has. Hypocrisy much?
I said it was introduced in the VA, they were crap then, and they are crap no, doesn't matter if its in a Lambo or a Mitsubishi Mirage, but I also understand your angle that is something a lot of people don't realize and use it against the VB, even tho, the VA used it as well.
@@Jerseygarage I feel your opinion too man. If only people could understand.
Also sidetrack, could you please do a video about the new Integra and why it's not that bad like everyone says it is?
Like people want it to be a Coupe, I get that but Coupes sell like dumpsterfire and their excuse is the BMW 2 Series.
They also act like previous Integra's were CR-V's and not a Civic...
@@OpheliaViolet-Z07 I got a list I’m adding it to right now, but I understand the pain. People had the mindset it was going to be a retro throwback, when Acura had always been clear that is was going to be a modern take on what the integra should be.
If it’s anything like the new NSX, people will appreciate it in a few years :)
It's not ugly once you see it in person. And seen it more than once.
Your hyundai EV video showed up in my recomended. Now im watching the rest of your videos. Great content!
Thats awesome dude thank you!
Its funny how many people are throwing a tantrum over this car when everything is better than the VA STI minus the Trans/Diffs & Brakes.
Seriously, we got 87% of an STI for $30k. Why are people whining about this? Do the upgrades with the money you save and enjoy if you really care that much. This car is so underrated it hurts. Sure the plastic sucks but just get it painted or buy the Grey one?
Test drive one, seriously...
I point that out, I think the tuning capabilities of these will be serious, like every car, there are pros and cons to this. The plastic trim AND the front end look, along with no STI will mean I probably won't ever buy one. HOWEVER the transmission is great and notchy, the power delivery is more linear than the VA, and the interior is a much much MUCH nicer place to be than the VA, at the end there it was definitely showing its age.
What's up? How's your throat doing?
Anways i love this video this addresses so many questions i had about it WRX thank you.
a lot better now, good enough to record audio anyways.
And no problem dude, glad you enjoyed!
@@Jerseygarage glad to hear you got better
They need to put the STi 6-speed in the car, with the DCCD and LSDs. Then I'd consider buying one.
How hard/ spirited do you drive your daily car to utilize all of that?? Not hating but if thats a breaking point for you to leave the brand, you must really drive the shit out of your subaru everyday
Well at that point its basically an STI lol
@@BDA0531 Man they should of done that. Just let us get all the STI goodies and then get the car tuned.
Went from owning a Bugeye (engine blew), to the 2022 WRX. I love it. I got MGM, and atm its just stock minus the tip swap for Remark... Paint matching the plastic is the way to go imo, and the power/handling is Wildly different compared to most other cars i've driven... Understanding that having the highest class in automatic (cvt), the CVT is really not that horrible compared to the previous generations and even other cars... I understand its a turn off to 80% of the community - but for someone whos married to someone who can't drive stick to save their life - this is a clutch car to own. (As the owner, I do miss stick, hoping one day subie decides to give it to us and i'll snag a model and give the wife the 2022).
Everyone has said the handling on these new WRXs is mental, I'm inclined to believe them as it looks from the outside like a very balanced car. I just idk what it is, I can't bring myself to buy a vehicle with a CVT in it.
(P.S., a bugeye blowing up, there's a first)
YOOOOOOO 2K SUBS CONGRATS
THANK YOU, I got something very special in the pipeline for 2k.
@@Jerseygarage looking forwards for that
I think people will catch on to how dope the VB at some point. But for now I'm enjoying every minute with mine! Haha
I just got mine and to be honest , I love it , I used to have a Tsuru so I think that’s why I like it so much lol
The only thing I took away from this is that you used to own a Nissan Tsuru you lucky Mf.
But congrats on the new car thats awesome!
I believe it was the old EJ engine, which the STi kept but the WRX ditched for the FA motor in 2014, that had head gasket issues.
And it's wasn't even an issue with the STi EJ engine, but the Naturally Aspirated versions of the EJ that use cheaper headgaskets than the Multi-Layer Steel ones used on the WRX / STi. Oil pickup and proper Baffling is a concern with oil starvation though if you track these machines.
@@roygillotti4615 Aaahhh gotcha. It's one of those things that someone probably heard online or experienced and got amplified through the Internet campfire game. I'm glad to have an FA in my '19 WRX but that EJ rumble... mine doesn't sound like that hehe
@@maxpeck4154 I actually had the STi Transmission/Drivetrain swapped into my '19 WRX... I feel FA + STi Transmission was a good combo Subaru didn't give us.
@@roygillotti4615 I've heard that the STi transmission is the direct linkage one vs the cable-actuated one in my WRX? If that's what you mean I've heard that as well, but the one in my 19 WRX is by no means bad
@@maxpeck4154 direct linkage, rear diff is limited slip also, DCCD system can be set in multiple ways and can send most of the torque to the rear... so much better all around.
My girlfriend just picked a 2022 up for 34k with 4k miles on it at first totally hated the look especially on pictures and then I drove it and saw it in person, it’s taking me a little but it’s most definitely growing on me especially since for 1k u can pick up paint matched fenders and it makes the car look a million times better in my opinion
Oh yea and it’s ofc a 6 speed sorry to everyone but I told her hell no to a cvt if she was gonna buy a wrx it could not be auto
They said the bugeye was ugly. Still kinda ugly compared to others but today they are the rarest GD version and loved worldwide
Bought my first WRX a few months ago -- a 2023 Limited in Sapphire Blue with the 6-speed. I would have gotten the GT if it weren't for the mandatory CVT. It's a lot of fun to drive stock. I'm doing the cosmetic upgrades I want now and plan to look into increasing performance later. I'd just like to get it up around 350 hp. The aftermarket options on these is great.
I got mine last November light silver limited 6speed I’ve only changed to the maf performance exhaust and plan to put a turbosmart BOV and CoBB intake with a tune then itasha it for memes
nice vid bro
Thank you! That means a lot I appreciate it!
everyone hyping up the new wrx but ive heard stories of sparkly oil and im not surprised. to say these are better than the last gen is crazy we havent even seen what happens long term
Everyone talks about the head gasket issue, you know that’s only really applies to the
N/A EJ engines from the early 2000’s 🙄 The turbo EJ’s didn’t have a head gasket problem… The internet saw Subaru head gasket issue and just ran with it….
I know, I pointed that out that it REALLY isn't a big deal but people on the internet just RAN with it
Damn, while disappointed the GT is not a manual, and theres no sti, this is the first WRX i’ve ever wanted due primarily to its looks. For me it looks like how i envision an on/off road car. And also love how it doesnt look like any other sedan currently out there. Does need better brakes though. But all other enthusiast driving attributes about it are pretty awesome. I ended up with a Limited in ceramic white (wish i could ditch the sunroof though)
It’s the front end for me, for whatever reason I just don’t like the way it looks
Why don't you like the sunroof? I was starting to regret not getting limited. I got the premium. I hope I can switch the interior panels later on. Doors cards look mehhh.
I just dont like enthusiast cars with a sunroof but also never use a sunroof ever. Just a quirk of mine. I prefer a manual and slick top. But definitely prefer the interior and finishes and the seats of the limited. Ideally i’d like a manual premium with recwros.
From what I'm reading the global climate griters with CAFE and ZEV are what killed the STI. All done from the comfort of a private jet.
Immediately get the plastics painted body color and this car would be good. Black would be my choice. Honestly though I’d just look for a 22’ STI.
Subaru went from a 2L to a 2.4L engine, and gained 3HP. Anyone that knows cars, knows that vehicles are severely detuned from factory. Those numbers tell me this is even more of an extreme example (to meet emissions and EPA guidelines). Once tuners have this platform on lock, I wouldn't be surprised if 350-375 is rock stable and cheap
Never driven the new rex. But from what I’ve heard and read, it’s been a great performer. The deal breaker for me is there’s no hatch. I need the cargo space. My blob eye wagon was special but also from a different time. And the last hatch (14) did not handle as well as the 15+ sedan-only chassis. I’ll never buy an RS and cannot get over the 45k+ tag for a GR corolla.
Subie, just give us another WRX hatch. It doesn’t even need to be an STI!
I'm happy with my 2013. I feel like that was the last best generation of the real soul and feeling of a WRX. The sound, the feeling, the widest body of any rivaling the 22B.
Gotta disagree! The way it drives and the tune-ability makes it a dope enthusiast car. The looks definitely grown on me too.
No I do agree, its got great tuneability and is a quick car. The only thing I really don't like about it is its face, it looks like a hog IMO
Got the VB in World Rally Blue and GT trim since August last year and have noticed more and more of the VB on the road lately. The fenders do bother me but there are already aftermarket fenders carbon fiber so excited to see different options as time goes on as that is one part I really want to change out.
Something I have noticed with the VB I see around in SoCal is a few girls driving and modifying theirs. Seems like the mass market approach and discounts on it is allowing more and more folks to access this car. Plus seems like Subaru really is churning these out or demand isn't super high on them so my local dealer just had them readily available on the lot even back when cars were harder to get last year. Still seeing all the discounts folks are getting on them makes me think we should be seeing more soon.
I was originally aiming for the GR Corolla but have been quoted such crazy prices for markup going to $30k over last year it's killed my enthusiasm for it.
I do know my CVT is fragile but seen folks online saying they been using few tunes to get theirs to 300 whp stock and been running that fine for few months without blowing the transmission makes me kinda tempted.
Really enjoy my car and hope the community does come around to it eventually. Even had a VA driver at a light come up to my window and say he test drove one and the VB handled lot better than his VA but just the looks held him back on pulling trigger on one.
Where do I find one of these vb girls out here in So Cal. That's some love at first sight kind of shit...
Did you ever tune the engine?
The wife and I are almost 50 and love our ‘22 WRX GT. I wouldn’t drive my ‘15 STi any faster than the ‘22 and I don’t feel like I’ve been in a fight after 250 miles. My kids will have to sell the STi when I’m dead, but shes nowhere near the car overall that the ‘22 is.
Everyone says the performance of the car is amazing, but I just can't get over the exterior the front end looks like poop IMO
I like the new look, I know not everyone does. I drove a 2022 model and it’s quick and handles really well.
I think if you pair the new fa24 with the STI drivetrain you could create a great street car but as you stated subaru kept the crappy cable driven split case transmission in this new WRX personally I have a VA WRX with a full STI drivetrain swap n I’ll never get rid of it It’s the car Subaru SHOULD of came out with anyway great video!!!
If they came out with an updated version of the VA drivetrain, making AT LEAST 350, but it should be rounded up to 400, then no one would care about the looks, myself included. It’s just the issue that the car doesn’t look great, and making the CVT the ONLY transmission option in the top trim level, whatever drug Subarus board of directors is taking, I want some, because that is an actually MENTAL decision.
From an average joe perspective it’s not a good car.
From an enthusiasts perspective it’s not a good car at all.
From a wrx perspective it’s the worst Subaru ever made and does not deserve the name.
From Subaru perspective it’s there baby💀😂.
yeah they were betting a lot on this car and didn't realize no one would want it XD
From an average Joe perspective its not a good car? 29,000$ for an almost 300hp spacious 4 door AWD vehicle with a turbo? From a WRX perspective its the worst? Why? because its the best handling most tuneable WRX yet? Lol. You’re clueless. Ive driven everu Gen of WRX and its easily the best yet.
Yea the cvt be going hard💀💀😂😂😭
@wireRBLX cvt is only an issue if u want top trim all 3 other trims still have manual but go drop that 60k on type r or corrola gr, markups go hard
I'm actually ok with the flares, as the amount of gravel where I live KILLS paint around wheel arches.
I might price one of these out here in Canada. Go blue, and put a 555 livery on it.
I got the car today. Ima a happy customer
Congrats on the new car dude thats awesome!
the only thing i hate is the look of it
I say the same thing tell I saw one in person and it look really nice I love it.😅
Just bought one. Love the car.
People need to stop whining about this car. For $30k you get a fun, 270+HP AWD enthusiast car with a 6mt. This will be the last of its kind, as we all know the future is boring electric.
something is better than nothing, its something I always say to people who complain about cars like this/hybrid cars etc.
With that being said, just because its the last of its kind, doesn't mean its immune from criticism, and this car has some big issues I am not a fan of
@@Jerseygarage what's the big issue? The only issue I see is the sheep mentality of the so called car enthusiasts. You guys hate on everything that you don't own. It's a toxic community of sheep now.
Ive driven every generation of WRX and its easily the best. Personally i think its the most mean and aggressive looking wrx yet.
I can kinda see it, I know the handling on it is out of this world but still, the front end looks too much like a hog for me personally :/
Its pretty tame looking man lol looks like a crosstrek with a hood scoop. Not hating, but havent seen a new one yet and thought it looks aggressive. It aint bad tho.
@@shad3128 I think it looks really aggressive, especially compared to the VA. I love the front of the VA but the side and rear view looks like an economy car/ soccer mom car.
@@8JFJK8disagree this new wrx looks like a cross trek sedan, way to high ground clearance long and sleek. The last generation looks way better shorter,lower and bulkier beefy looking. I eve seen quite a few on the road and it’s even hard to tell it’s a wrx. Big miss in my book but I understand if someone bought this car they would say this one looks better. I’m glad I bought my 21 Sti new and won’t be parting with it anytime soon.
@@Mav646 disagree. Cool opinion bruh.
CVTs can be actually good
If u can decide with a lever what ratio u want
and maybe instead of a belt, there could be these machined pieces of metal, idk maybe call them gears or something, and they can pre-select a ratio for you!
@@Jerseygarage yep that's also good idea
Even tho metal gears with probably make a alot of noise
Cuz alot of metal is gonna be grinding on another piece of metal since I'm not sure if it can be(hellical? The kinda curvy gears) it has to be straight cut gears
@@THEANIMALGUY now if only there was something, a liquid maybe, that we could use that would help make those gears last longer, possibly a fluid, that way it helps lubricate said gears.
I’ve got one and love it 😊
congrats on the car bro!
I think it is a good car but not a good wrx
it just looks so, not good, its an alright daily I guess
I think you are being a little too harsh on the car. Remember every wrx/impreza that came out has been met with criticism on their looks, but now for no reason at all, everyone says the older ones look good all of a sudden. I think its a bit unfair that subaru is trying to change a look that was previously criticised while needing to be within their development budget to make the car drive better, update interior, meet new legislative guidelines, and when they finally think they've done it, the community turns around and shits on the new car look, and for no reason start to trophie the previous gen's look.
On the topic of head gasket, I heard they fixed the newer gen's, and if you buy em new, they are fairly reliable. And for power, like the stock honestly gives you more than you'll need for a little fun on the weekend.
As for putting in a bigger turbo and concern on the extra horsepower require you to put in a new transmission. From what I've heard, the new wrx stock can handle quite a bit of extra horsepower. like around 350ish hp and around that area too for torque. But like honestly if you want a bigger turbo in a car, the transmission would be one of the many many many things that you should consider on changing and thats for all cars, not just the wrx.
Not a bad car tbh but if I had a suitcase full of money it's not the car I'd buy.
That is a very good way of summing up the car overall
I agree with this message.
I happy you think so!
another amazing jgarage video
Thank you bro I appreciate it!
I love my WRX 2019 next year I can buy the new one
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2k subs real quick. Congrats. If you get big and stop responding your channel's fan comments you will make us sad. Don't make us sad.
I do hope to get big, however, I don't plan on not responding to your guys' and gals comments, you literally have made me who I am, I can't thank yall enough!
Turbo EJ’s never had serious headgasket issues like the NAs, come on now that’s just misinformation
ahhhhhhhh idkkkkkk. The engines in the VA aren't as bad as the ones in the Hawkeye and bugeye, but there's no denying they have their issues. Even still I say in the video that meme culture has blown it way out of proportion, its not that bad.
@@LaughDragon how did you get a car to talk?
Does it understand when I say hello back to it?
I wanted to get 2016-2020 wrx but I'm running out of time to make a decision. So I'm really leaning towards the newer model with manual, but Idk if it's a good choice
Test drive both, and decide from there.
Personally, I would go for the last gen WRX, but they are so similar it’s really down to personal taste
@@Jerseygarage Gotcha! Thank you for the input! You got a new subscriber out of me
8 minutes of bashing the car to say it’s not bad. I own one of these and love it 😂
Not a Subie guy and never owned one, but always liked these rally type cars, and personally I don't agree with your assessment of this new one being "ugly." Looks pretty cool to me. But to each their own.
I own a 2012 Dodge Challenger and bought a 2024 Legacy for my mother in law (because Honda and Toyotas are overpriced and not available). After driving it I am shocked how nice of a car it is. I am heading to the dealership to test drive a 6-speed WRX. I just got to know for myself.
I just got a 2008 hatch subaru impreza and i legit love it iv never owned a subaru but how they handle and drive is amazing ill never be able to afford a 2023 or anything but this is my second car! and ik there known for oil leaks which mine has. its getting fixe thank god but is there anything i need to know or watch out for with this year and make? asides from that like i said it ran great! told me its a headgasket leak which im hoping can be fixed... idk much about subaru but im learning :)
You just gotta keep an eye on those headgaskets watch out for things like your coolant getting a little cloudy or oil dripping from the car when its parked, those are some basic signs of a leaky headgasket, aside from that, they are pretty solid in terms of reliability to my understanding, excellent vehicle choice BTW that era of imprezas are awesome.
My best recommendation is look on forums on the internet, and watch videos on youtube about your specific car, if you have any problem at all, some guy 8 years ago on some random forum already had it, and has a perfect fix for it. Good Luck with your car dude, I hope it turns out to be everything you want it to be!
If I'm being dead honest The New WRX has a face only a mother could love
its the face, the tail lights and those damn plastic trim pieces, it quite literally looks like a hog from the front.
@@Jerseygarage And a 1 speed CVT transmission c,mon
No, only one that a pet would love.
@@AStickOfDeoderant funny enough, it actually kinda reminds me of your profile picture 💀
from ownership I can say this car looks great in person and is so smooth.
what does VB means? I have a 2017 wrx and when I lift the hood up its stated VB in very small letters on each side of the engine
They need to bring back the hatchback and get rid of all the plastic cladding
I really wish they would either bring back the brat or a hatchback
@@Jerseygarage yeah the Rex was one of my dream car to own but they just ruined it. They tried to make it look like a crossover I guess to increase sales. For me it's dead like the evo.
I love you jgarage please sign my biceps
get away from me groupie scum, I am in a happy relationship.
Also, you don't seem like the type of person who can bench 300
I'm wondering how that plastic cladding will look after a few years of the sun beating the sh*t out of it. On my Kia Sorento, the black plastic trim faded over time.
Just bought a 22 WRX (VB) and it's actually a great car. I purchased a 2016 WRX brand new off the truck (unwrapped it myself and bought it after the test drive). The handling out of the box for the 22' is super impressive. Can't comment on the tuning potential as I'm enjoying it stock for now. My biggest gripe is the sound system. Dogshit.
Harman Kardon@@nateafcsouth. I had a 2013 Lexus GX460 prior to this car and it had a Mark Levinson sound system that puts this car's system to shame. It's really awful. I'll be upgrading it asap.
Aren't we used to subaru making ugly cars already?
I mean I liked the VA WRX, and the wagon STI, BUT I can understand that a lot of their cars haven't exactly been the pinnacle of exterior styling
Exactly. Every time they create a new one, everyone hates it, then forgets they hated it when the next design comes out