You can't go wrong with ANY 4xe...but imo it depends how much off roading capability you want? I had a Sahara 19' but always wanted more off road capability. The standard options the Rubi's came with, coupled w/ the tax credit was a win/win for my latest Wrangler purchase. Keep in mind as awesome as those glossy black 20's look on the Sahara, I would bet they are a recipe for easy scratching, even just driving around town if you hit a curb or kick the dust up lol. I can only speak for myself, but I think a Sahara is a great starter for any new Jeep enthusiast...but eventually you will want to go bigger and explore more!
And the Sahara I'm picking up does come blacked out It's the high altitude one. grill and all around are blacked out. Thanks for the video good to see both side by side review.
The Rubicon fenders are also mounted higher than the Sahara. If you opt for the leather interior on the Rubicon you get leather in the same places as the Sahara.
I know there’s a lot of small details that weren’t discussed, which is fine, but it’s also good to note that the Rubicon fenders sit higher than the Sahara. It’s even noticeable when you have the 4xe’s next to each other. That’s important to note since that’s one of the reasons the Sahara has trouble getting bigger tires. I have a 2021 hydroblue 4xe and have been looking into bigger tires. I’m trying to avoid lifting, but the fenders seem to be the biggest obstacle right now.
I have the Sahara and like it a lot. It’s great for an everyday driver. I had a little buyer remorse because I bought it out of spite on a dealer trade. Long story on a trade in. I should have gone with the Rubicon they dealer traded. So I put a 2.5” lift and new wheels and tires.
@@markreed9398 yeah I have pn order a granite crystal metallic sahara altitude 4xe....I wanted a rubicon, but I'm paying cash and 62k is stomach churning enough, throwing another x amount of thousands of dollars was too much.....I'm sure once I get lift, tires, lockers, sway bar disconnect, I'm sure I'm gonna regret it lol
These are awesome comparisons. I have always owned Jeeps either wrangler or GCs. I traded off for a 21 4Runner. It’s a great rig but I must have Jeep Blood.. think I’m going back 🤣 IMO my rubicon was hands down more of a fun beast to drive, my Sahara felt like it was for a mature driver😆
Welcome back! I think i agree , guess i am a “mature driver” cause as of right now i am liking driving the Sahara better. However my heart does skip a beat every time i look at the Rubicon….its just so sexy
I have a 2012 Sahara. I do love the camel leather in it. I'll be looking for my next jeep in a few years. Is it possible to mount a full roof rack somehow above that sliding solid retractable roof? I take the Jeep camping with a Yakima SkyBox 21 riding on top of the roof rack.
I’m going for a fully loaded 4xE Rubicon on lease. It actually optioned out cheaper than a fully loaded Sahara that was $5-6k cheaper. But the residuals on the rubicon where greater for its resale value. So I chose that one. Also based off looks but also if you’re going to have a jeep, might as well have the one that it’s known for. I wanted the Sahara at first but my wife actually talked me into the rubicon. Although I don’t remember her getting into a rubicon test drive. So it could be interesting when it finally shows up. She might change her mind!
great video. been thinking about one of these for a little while now and getting ready to go drive one at my local jeep dealer so the info was much appreciated. how much did your electric bill go up now that you are plugging them in?
Depends where you live. CA has some incentives if you charge overnight, for example 16% discount. 4xe has 17kWh batt, so find out what your utility co charges per kWh...
For my family and I the Sahara is a good compromise. I wonder if the Rubicon stock wheels and tires would work on the Sahara without any suspension mods? Great Review.
My neighbor sold his 2018 Rubicon 3.6L, and bought a 2022 Ford Bronco Badlands, which I might add was marked up $10,000.00. It turned out to be a "Recall King". had a troublesome transmission and some very obvious quality control problems. Yesterday, he came home with a new 2023 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 4xe Hardtop in White with Black/Saddle Leather interior. and the power sky roof (awesome option). He told me the crap he went through with Ford initially, the BS with the Dealer changing the selling price after the fact, and the problems he incurred with the Bronco ruined the entire ownership experience. Because of the current financial climate of the country, he did lose several thousand dollars, but he said he learned his lesson. By the way, this is his fourth Wrangler, and should say a lot about the brand. We have a good Chrysler/Jeep/Dodge/RAM dealership in Ventura, California, and that makes a big difference.
Thanks … actually ended up selling both and getting a Rubicon with the upgraded interior. Have since gotten out of that, due to litany of quality issues. It was bought back as a lemon. Although i did enjoy it immensely, i didn’t enjoy its 3 months at the dealership
I’d say the Sahara is more for everyday on the road driving. Off road: it goes to the rubicon. Depends on the usage. Those fortunate enough to have this as a toy then the choice is obvious. But if you are one to make this your daily drive and compromise in some areas like kid chair in the back etc etc …. Then Sahara it is
I know that we all (jeep people) make a huge deal about the differences between them. The truth is compared to almost any other suv, the differences between the Sahara and Rubicon seem minimal. I think once you make the decision to forgo logic and get the Wrangler as your daily…its just personal preference at that point
My question is there will be a lot con questions about the power battery pack because of age or faulty function, costly expensive for replacement of new power battery like $12k plus labor. How buyers respond when they think and will afraid to buy a used jeep 4Xe which you try to sell it because of the power battery pack last longer or short life..
Worth it…… thats a tough one cause it is so expensive. If you lease it, 4XE can be a great deal, due to very high residual value and the $7500 government rebate. So if you can get it below msrp, and lease it…. I think it is one of the best deals available right now
Thanks dude. I am about to buy one tomorrow. Do u think the extra 5K is worth for a Rubicon ?...... there is something i like about the Rubicon more but i dont know what lol
Such a personal call….I really enjoy both and have not even decided which one i am going to keep. If you are really into the Rubicon you may always regret not getting it. The one thing i will say is the leather package ($1895) is so worth adding. Its not just the seats, all the dash and door plastics are of a higher quality as well as the arm rests and shifters. Good luck !
This is a goo video showing the difference at the same time. Many people wont be sure which one they would want until they see thm side by side. I agree with you the Sahara seems logically to be the better choice, but Rubicon screams Jeep, and thats what you want for the money. There are plenty of other vehicles much better logically for that money. But a Jeep is a Jeep and feeling cool is worth the price!
Thanks for the response…..i still am not sure which one i will keep. I have about two more weeks before i have to decide. I will be posting a electric range comparison of the two jeeps this weekend.
@@PatricSok sure.. but you still will not have the cool hood with air vents and decals. The raised suspension is cool looking. The blacked out front is also fashionable right now. Its a tough call. Both are just very cool vehicles. I will be discussing how the two jeeps drive and handle very differently for my daily commute.
Hows the Reliability so far? I'm thinking of picking one up next week but I'm seeing all these forms of peoples breaking down anybody got any good news about the 4xe?
Only fault in mine so far after one year is I didn't put the gas cap on correctly. Check engine light wont reset until something like 30 engine cycles.
Price increase in 2023 some new color options….the big changes are the 2024 available to order right now. New grill, more standard safety features, larger center screen, digital instrument cluster, sport trim, high end rubicon trim….probably more that i am forgetting
Yea i wanted to order them with exactly the same options checked, so i could truly compare the standard models. Kind of regretting it though. I am going to post an in-depth comparison of the two interiors so others can make an informed decision as well.
The PHEV Credit made it become one of the best investments the last two years due to an appreciating car market. Some people made up to $200k by flipping these damn cars. Check out AutoCompanion's latest YT post on how some people did it. Crazy times
Is it a 2022 Sahara ? I am just saying that because of the blue tow hook ? I have a 2021 and I want to paint them but I don't know the paint name ? some people are saying .. Satin blue, Lagoon blue I don't know haha.. just a question ✌️
@@KingdomFTX that was my plan a couple months ago, I could only get the rear one.. shipping cost $95..I did a search like you said 2022 Mopar .. omg I am so happy haha.. Thanks a million haha✌️
Definitely if i was going to own it. If you are leasing the price per month is very close between sahara and rubicon ( due to higher residuals on the Rubicon) So adding in a $1500 wheel/ tire upgrade would make the Sahara significantly more expensive per month.
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Welcome to youtube buddy!!!
Great video
Exactly what I looking for! Video helped a ton, ty
Thanks for the comparison. Great video!
This was so helpful, thank you!
Great video.
I’d love to see a side by side electric range test before engine start to see the difference.
Great idea…..we will do it this weekend
Thanks for doing this! Good detail - helpful
You can't go wrong with ANY 4xe...but
imo it depends how much off roading capability you want? I had a Sahara 19' but always wanted more off road capability. The standard options the Rubi's came with, coupled w/ the tax credit was a win/win for my latest Wrangler purchase. Keep in mind as awesome as those glossy black 20's look on the Sahara, I would bet they are a recipe for easy scratching, even just driving around town if you hit a curb or kick the dust up lol.
I can only speak for myself, but I think a Sahara is a great starter for any new Jeep enthusiast...but eventually you will want to go bigger and explore more!
And the Sahara I'm picking up does come blacked out It's the high altitude one. grill and all around are blacked out. Thanks for the video good to see both side by side review.
The Rubicon fenders are also mounted higher than the Sahara. If you opt for the leather interior on the Rubicon you get leather in the same places as the Sahara.
Agree
U explain the difference very well buddy
Good review. Ordered a 22 Rubi. Ran put of $$s before I ran out options. No doubt for a daily the Sahara is the one.👍👍😎🇺🇸
I know there’s a lot of small details that weren’t discussed, which is fine, but it’s also good to note that the Rubicon fenders sit higher than the Sahara. It’s even noticeable when you have the 4xe’s next to each other. That’s important to note since that’s one of the reasons the Sahara has trouble getting bigger tires. I have a 2021 hydroblue 4xe and have been looking into bigger tires. I’m trying to avoid lifting, but the fenders seem to be the biggest obstacle right now.
With a simple front end leveling kit, they will fit no problem
How the actual gas mileage??
love the video, extremely detailed!
how can I save up to get a Jeep Wrangler 4XE?
great vid! wish they made non body color flares on the sahara i just like the dark plastic look
I have the same Sahara, just add wheels, tires, and a bumper…it will look awesome. Wish I could show you the picture of mine now with those things.
how much adding those cost ?
I have the Sahara and like it a lot. It’s great for an everyday driver. I had a little buyer remorse because I bought it out of spite on a dealer trade. Long story on a trade in. I should have gone with the Rubicon they dealer traded. So I put a 2.5” lift and new wheels and tires.
Do you regret the extra cost of 2.5" lift and wheels+tires? Did you compare the ride to Rubicon after the changes?
@@1eevahn not really. I do wish I had the electronic disconnect. Other than that it is what it is.
@@markreed9398 yeah I have pn order a granite crystal metallic sahara altitude 4xe....I wanted a rubicon, but I'm paying cash and 62k is stomach churning enough, throwing another x amount of thousands of dollars was too much.....I'm sure once I get lift, tires, lockers, sway bar disconnect, I'm sure I'm gonna regret it lol
I like all
These are awesome comparisons. I have always owned Jeeps either wrangler or GCs. I traded off for a 21 4Runner. It’s a great rig but I must have Jeep Blood.. think I’m going back 🤣 IMO my rubicon was hands down more of a fun beast to drive, my Sahara felt like it was for a mature driver😆
Welcome back! I think i agree , guess i am a “mature driver” cause as of right now i am liking driving the Sahara better. However my heart does skip a beat every time i look at the Rubicon….its just so sexy
Yes lol well said! I felt younger in my rubicon she turned heads not me 🤣
Thanks.im trying to decide between them too
It’s tough, but i never hear of any regrets when someone gets the Rubicon
I have a 2012 Sahara. I do love the camel leather in it. I'll be looking for my next jeep in a few years. Is it possible to mount a full roof rack somehow above that sliding solid retractable roof?
I take the Jeep camping with a Yakima SkyBox 21 riding on top of the roof rack.
@jeepdaddy great video! Any thoughts on Sahara Vs. Willys?
Very helpful. Thank you,
Btw Can i get a leather interior with the Rubicon if i Dont check the standard option though?
Nice Comparison
We have the 2024 Willy’s it’s awesome and fits 4 adults and a car seat a little snug because of the car seat but not a issue
I’m going for a fully loaded 4xE Rubicon on lease. It actually optioned out cheaper than a fully loaded Sahara that was $5-6k cheaper. But the residuals on the rubicon where greater for its resale value. So I chose that one. Also based off looks but also if you’re going to have a jeep, might as well have the one that it’s known for. I wanted the Sahara at first but my wife actually talked me into the rubicon. Although I don’t remember her getting into a rubicon test drive. So it could be interesting when it finally shows up. She might change her mind!
Its really hard not to love the Rubicon. If we decide to keep the Rubicon it will definitely be getting side steps.
I took possession of a 2022 Rubicon 4xe almost two weeks ago. Really happy with it so far.
great video. been thinking about one of these for a little while now and getting ready to go drive one at my local jeep dealer so the info was much appreciated. how much did your electric bill go up now that you are plugging them in?
Thanks! Honestly not enough that i even noticed.
Depends where you live. CA has some incentives if you charge overnight, for example 16% discount. 4xe has 17kWh batt, so find out what your utility co charges per kWh...
For my family and I the Sahara is a good compromise. I wonder if the Rubicon stock wheels and tires would work on the Sahara without any suspension mods? Great Review.
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Check out this channel, Chris has a set installed on his Sahara and switches back and forth.
My neighbor sold his 2018 Rubicon 3.6L, and bought a 2022 Ford Bronco Badlands, which I might add was marked up $10,000.00. It turned out to be a "Recall King". had a troublesome transmission and some very obvious quality control problems. Yesterday, he came home with a new 2023 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 4xe Hardtop in White with Black/Saddle Leather interior. and the power sky roof (awesome option). He told me the crap he went through with Ford initially, the BS with the Dealer changing the selling price after the fact, and the problems he incurred with the Bronco ruined the entire ownership experience. Because of the current financial climate of the country, he did lose several thousand dollars, but he said he learned his lesson. By the way, this is his fourth Wrangler, and should say a lot about the brand. We have a good Chrysler/Jeep/Dodge/RAM dealership in Ventura, California, and that makes a big difference.
Good video. What did you end up going with ? Happy with the choice?
Thanks … actually ended up selling both and getting a Rubicon with the upgraded interior. Have since gotten out of that, due to litany of quality issues. It was bought back as a lemon. Although i did enjoy it immensely, i didn’t enjoy its 3 months at the dealership
I’d say the Sahara is more for everyday on the road driving. Off road: it goes to the rubicon.
Depends on the usage. Those fortunate enough to have this as a toy then the choice is obvious. But if you are one to make this your daily drive and compromise in some areas like kid chair in the back etc etc …. Then Sahara it is
I know that we all (jeep people) make a huge deal about the differences between them. The truth is compared to almost any other suv, the differences between the Sahara and Rubicon seem minimal. I think once you make the decision to forgo logic and get the Wrangler as your daily…its just personal preference at that point
@@thejeepdaddy oh definitely. You said it best “as jeep people.” When you narrow it down to us … the difference is minimal.
@@surrealartisan4625 lol
My question is there will be a lot con questions about the power battery pack because of age or faulty function, costly expensive for replacement of new power battery like $12k plus labor. How buyers respond when they think and will afraid to buy a used jeep 4Xe which you try to sell it because of the power battery pack last longer or short life..
I have Sahara 2021, it is comfortable for my driving on road.
Do they both have disconnecting sway bars and locking differentials? I thought that was the point of the Rubicon but you didn't mention it.
No only Rubicons have those….this was meant to be a non technical review. I was focused on everyday livability as a daily driver.
What is the real l Iife practical mileage of the high altitude vs the rubicon?
Is 4xe worth it? We are not sure about that one. We took the test drive and we loved it because it goes smooth.
Worth it…… thats a tough one cause it is so expensive. If you lease it, 4XE can be a great deal, due to very high residual value and the $7500 government rebate.
So if you can get it below msrp, and lease it…. I think it is one of the best deals available right now
@@thejeepdaddy We are thinking about owning one. But not sure about the dealership's service contract. What do you suggest?
Thanks dude. I am about to buy one tomorrow. Do u think the extra 5K is worth for a Rubicon ?...... there is something i like about the Rubicon more but i dont know what lol
Such a personal call….I really enjoy both and have not even decided which one i am going to keep. If you are really into the Rubicon you may always regret not getting it. The one thing i will say is the leather package ($1895) is so worth adding. Its not just the seats, all the dash and door plastics are of a higher quality as well as the arm rests and shifters. Good luck !
@@thejeepdaddy ended up taking the Sahara. It was like 5K difference everything else equal. I preferred to save some cash
@@Joaquin-mp8ub congratulations it is such a fun suv to have. Great in the winter and fun in the summer!
Did you end up lifting your Sahara?
This is a goo video showing the difference at the same time. Many people wont be sure which one they would want until they see thm side by side. I agree with you the Sahara seems logically to be the better choice, but Rubicon screams Jeep, and thats what you want for the money. There are plenty of other vehicles much better logically for that money. But a Jeep is a Jeep and feeling cool is worth the price!
Thanks for the response…..i still am not sure which one i will keep. I have about two more weeks before i have to decide. I will be posting a electric range comparison of the two jeeps this weekend.
Can you just replace the sahara tires with beefier looking ones like the rubicon?
@@PatricSok sure.. but you still will not have the cool hood with air vents and decals. The raised suspension is cool looking. The blacked out front is also fashionable right now. Its a tough call. Both are just very cool vehicles.
I will be discussing how the two jeeps drive and handle very differently for my daily commute.
bro, you will Not , i repeat WILL NOT make a video this good and informative and NOT HAVE A MIC!
Ill talk to my daughter, and see if she can hook me up. Im doing a follow up on which jeep I decided to keep and reasons why
Is there a mileage difference between the 2?? I am having a hard time finding that out. I feel like the tires have to make a difference
Yes …. Rubicon had about 400 miles and the Sahara had 1500 miles. I can’t imagine that tread wear would be a factor given this.
Umm... driving mileage, not accumulated mileage. 😂
Sahara has 32" tall tires right
Are those hood vents functional and what happens when it rains.
No, they are not functional
Hows the Reliability so far? I'm thinking of picking one up next week but I'm seeing all these forms of peoples breaking down anybody got any good news about the 4xe?
Had a few faults in the charging system lights come on, but seems to be a software issue. No real problems for me so far.
Only fault in mine so far after one year is I didn't put the gas cap on correctly. Check engine light wont reset until something like 30 engine cycles.
What’s the difference between 2022 Rubicon jeep wrangler 4xe versus 2023 jeep wrangler Rubicon for 4xe
Price increase in 2023 some new color options….the big changes are the 2024 available to order right now. New grill, more standard safety features, larger center screen, digital instrument cluster, sport trim, high end rubicon trim….probably more that i am forgetting
I stick Rubicon 4xe. 4x4 standard for overlanding and off roading
Rubicon 👏👏👏👏
How much is thé Rubicon
Dam you didn’t get leather interior….first rubicon i seen with cloth.
Yea i wanted to order them with exactly the same options checked, so i could truly compare the standard models. Kind of regretting it though. I am going to post an in-depth comparison of the two interiors so others can make an informed decision as well.
The PHEV Credit made it become one of the best investments the last two years due to an appreciating car market. Some people made up to $200k by flipping these damn cars. Check out AutoCompanion's latest YT post on how some people did it. Crazy times
Is it a 2022 Sahara ? I am just saying that because of the blue tow hook ? I have a 2021 and I want to paint them but I don't know the paint name ? some people are saying .. Satin blue, Lagoon blue I don't know haha.. just a question ✌️
Yea they are both 2022
What about buying MOPAR 2022 4xe tow hooks and replacing them? It’s an easy job.
@@KingdomFTX that was my plan a couple months ago, I could only get the rear one.. shipping cost $95..I did a search like you said 2022 Mopar .. omg I am so happy haha.. Thanks a million haha✌️
Satin Oasis Blue is what I used to paint my 2021 hooks and it matches perfect
do you have some serious microphone wind noise issues video is almost unwatchable.
Buy the Sahara and put the Rubicon tires and rims on it. DONE!
Ya i don't know why anyone would pay so much for a Jeep..???..$ 60,000????!!! WOW!! what a rip off.
So, get the Sahara and add more aggressive wheels and tires🤷🏻♂️
Definitely if i was going to own it. If you are leasing the price per month is very close between sahara and rubicon ( due to higher residuals on the Rubicon) So adding in a $1500 wheel/ tire upgrade would make the Sahara significantly more expensive per month.