I have a had my Rubicon 4xe for about 15 months. It is fun to drive and very capable . At 12 months exactly I had the electric heater go out. It would still run just fine but would not go into battery only. I had two dealers tell me it was normal and I did not understand how a hybrid works. Finally I got a hold of a Jeep tech online to get him to send me the tech bulletins and how to troubleshoot. I took that information into the dealer and they finally agreed it was the heater. Took almost 2 months of back and forth. That has been my only issue. I love the Jeep but Jeep really needs to step up their training, especially since they are bringing out the 4xe to many different models. Jeep Cares (Wave) is just about useless.
I also had my heater go out and it forced me into FORM which made it extremely frustrating. I reached out to one of the TH-camrs (forgot his name) and he gave me some tips on how to approach the dealership. I did that and got my heater fixed within the week- 2 days without a car. I rarely get FORM since then (I drive far enough on gas that it should prevent FORM from occurring). Other than that, I haven’t had any big issues. Also, I’m glad my 2021 4xe Sahara doesn’t have blue tow hooks since it’s HydroBlue and the two colors don’t match.
I've had mine for about 6 months and have put over 6000 kms on it. I knew from the forums to check the fuses when picking it up from the dealership - lo and behold most of them were quite loose. I seated them in properly and have not had a single issue. Hopefully it stays that way. The thing is a beauty, and everyone is amazed when they see a giant Rubicon roll up silent.
I have a 2021 Wrangler 4xe and loving it. It is a fantastic vehicle and I can manage 5 days of work commute/week completely on electric (~20 miles) and use ICE only during weekends.
Same here! We would like an even larger battery but love the plug-in hybrid 4xe powertrain. Doubling battery to around 35 kWh would make sense, much like in the new 2023 Range Rover Sport PHEV (which has Level 3 DC Fast Charging, too!)
I’ve had the 4xe 2022 20k km and I’ve had 0 issues. Took it off roading on a very challenging trail which involved the Jeep going through water levels that reached its hood. Still no issue
Great review 👏 . Respect your honesty about the minor issues . Your absolutely right. People will always find something to complain about and blow out of proportion. I think you just sold me!
@@hazimalwaali9507 it's not about time as much as it is miles. The Jeep will always push to use electric first (assuming your in hybrid mode) you'll see about 25 maybe 30 miles of range in the battery. Level 2 charing, and frequency of charging is where this vehicle really shines! Did you watch our 1 month review?
My 21 Rubicon has 20,000 miles. Flawless, not even a rattle. Beautiful blue Rubicon. I wish it got more electric miles but I still use about 40% electric overall. Our other vehicle ,IE wife's car is the Ford Mustang Mach E all electric and we love that as well.
I have a 2020 Wrangler ICE 2.0L, 4 door with 55k miles. Not an issue with a single thing. No a squeaks, rattles, mechanical etc. This is my first Jeep and im impressed. Im going to be looking at the 4xe got my next vehicle.
4xe High Altitude after 8k miles had very bad shutter when traveling above 55 mph. Turned out that from dampers needed to be tightened. Other than that no issues
Any chance you could post a picture of the tires and side of your jeep? I have ‘23 brand new customized one but I feel like the tires were supposed to be different.
Fuel oil refresh. I was able to get this to go away by cycling the "key" on and off a couple times then letting it run for a few minutes. There is no reserve battery capacity. The gas engine will provide power to the electric when the battery is dead.
I ended only having about 58k miles on my Jeep Wrangler. I just traded it in. Still no issue with nothing. If it was up to me, I would of been looking at a Jeep 4XE or Grand Cherokee & the new 2024 Chevy Traverse. The highway noise that the Wrangler Produces get to you after a while. I do allot of highway driving. Because we live in Brooklyn NY, my wife and I can only afford and park one vehicle. So this time around it was her turn to pick the vehicle. So we ended up with a 2024 BMW X3. Im a Jeep, F250 type guy. Im in construction and have been blue collar person all my life. Even thought Brooklyn NY is not a place for an F250 unless you have a place to park it. Hope this helps Justin.
Thanks for the review. I've been a Jeep owner for many years. 2 Jeeps in the past I've used to both commute and some light wheeling in the Northeast. So, I'm very excited to see what these new Hybrid Jeeps are offering. They have double the HP and I think torque as both my 06 Rubicon TJ and 08 JK. 2 doors. Plus 49 MPG .... OMG. Best I could get was 15-18 MPG if I kept my foot out of the throttle at highway speeds. I ran 33x10.5 BFGs K-2s with a 2in lifts on both of mine. JK was a 6-speed and a V-6, 06 an automatic I-6 These new hybrids are rated at 375 HP, nealy 300ft lbs. of torque out of an I-4 and batteries. TONS of new features. I'm excited and now want one. WOW WOW WOW. Again, Great review.
I have an early '21 Sahara as well. 30.000km done. Other than recalls and a cracked windshield (which is an issue w Wranglers) I have not had any issues, never stuck in FORM even in Montreal winters, though my mileage does sink in the winter more than yours. Great review and spot on!
That would require a much bigger battery which I don't think there is space for in this tiny vehicle. Maybe they can later on do a 3 row SUV using the Jeep Gladiator frame (or at least a 2 row extended SUV on the Gladiator frame)... I wonder when they'll do a 4xe with the Grand Wagoneer L, there would be plenty of room in that vehicle for batteries.
I bought a '21 4xe Ruby. EVERYTHING you stated is a mirror of my experience. I do have the clicking when turning and I simply thought that is because the 4xe and 392 have a different front suspension than the other Jeep models, I possibly and wrongly assumed that it was the nature of the 'beast'. I will get it checked out. Due to my typically short trips daily I overwhelmingly use more zapp than dinosaur juice. I average about 65-70% electric use vs 30-35% gas. So not including the costs of charging, I feel like I am getting 40-50mpg. I know there is a cost but have not calculated it yet. My electric bill went up about $30 but a lot of variables to consider. I have had mine a year and a half (purchased May 2021; a mere 2 months after hitting showroom floors). I live in Florida which environmentally is not as taxing in the cold as up North and I do NOT garage keep it. Offroad it is simply impressive. It makes me look better than I am when I let it do the thinking on crawling. I want to get new bumpers but I don't want to lose my blue hooks lol. Anyway, great review and will get my steering checked. Thanx dude!
Very nice video!! You are right to say positive reviews or positive forum remarks are not published enough. I too have a 2021 HA 4xe and have not had any issues at all. All updates were done before I got it in November of 2021. For a 1st time model, I am satisfied.
Hi, great video 👍 and I don't want to disappoint anybody, but I need to tell our story about this car. We have our Wrangler Rubicon (2022) for about 26 months now. It’s my wife car. She is in love with this model and in Belgium you can only buy the hybrid model new. We live in Belgium, no rough terrain, just our street is muddy over 1 mile when it rains. So no off-road adventures done. It drives great, when it is not in the garage for repair. After 1.5 year (about 6.000miles) the aft RH brake caliper seized. (Again, never driven in very muddy conditions or rough terrain.) Around the same time, airco inoperative >> broken wire. Also, it rains inside on the driver and passenger side. Always wet under the floor mat when it is parked in the rain. Now after about 2 years (10,000 miles) the famous death wobble around 60 miles/hour (Again, never driven in very muddy conditions or rough terrain.) >> steering shock absorber replaced and checked alignment. (JEEP advice) And now since about 3 months the car shakes from left to right at stand still and makes a metal sound. It feels like it wants to shift gear, but doesn’t. It doesn’t shake the same every day, sometimes a bit less or more. In electric mode or engine running, park, rev, neutral or drive position, doesn’t matter. It seems to come from the gearbox. The car went to the dealer, and they changed the wire loop to the electric motor in the gearbox (recommended by JEEP) It didn’t fix it. The car stayed at the dealer for 4 weeks, awaiting a solution from JEEP. No result until now. We picked it up 2 days ago (they wanted their free rental car back). No problem driving it but shacking Steven is still with us 😬 They await another solution from JEEP and are aiming for the gearbox (really?). So there will be a big chance that they need to replace the complete gearbox…to be continued… We are very disappointed as it is not a cheap car (around €70.000 here) and we already have issues as which make it look a 15-year-old car. (Again, never driven in very muddy conditions or rough terrain.) So far my advice is, look up (we didn’t) what issues u can expect on forums even if you buy a new one.
Good review. I’ve had my Rubicon 4xe for nearly a year and love it. Up to 5 badges of honor with more to come. The rubicon model is very capable off road and often times makes obstacles that other JLs struggle with look easy. My #1 complaint, and it’s not against jeep, is the mod market has not caught up with the 4xe. READERS BE WARNED! Not all parts that fit a JL will fit the 4xe. The mod market is slowly catching up, but lately I’ve ran into a lot of dead ends finding a full suspension lift kit that is rated for the 4xe. The added battery weight requires heavier duty suspension than a standard wrangler, so make sure the manufacturer of the lift kit certifies the kit for a 4xe. Call them to verify. Vendor’s websites are not usually accurate when they match the part to your jeep because they assume a JL is a JL. Jeep should almost create a separate line, like JLe, to distinguish it from the other JLs. I’ve ran into the same problem with skid plates, but didn’t do my research before purchasing. Now I have two JL differential skid plates (front and rear) for sale.
Clayton overland has a great 2.5" lift kit, they do recommend - if you plan on loading the rear of the Jeep (RTT, overland camping equipment, roof rack, fridge, etc.,) add the 3.5 to the rear. MetalCloak has the Rocklander Rack System for the 4xe. slowly but surely the aftermarket will catch up.
The reason you have an issue with the electric mode when the temp. is in the single or minus digits F is the lithium ion batteries do not like cold. It takes time for your unit to warm up the battery to operation temp. so in that time it will lay idle. Just another way of protecting the batteries. Jeep has both a warming and cooling mode for the battery to extend its life.
I bought a wrangler 4xe with the cold weather package in January 2022. I live in Winnipeg, lots of snow and very cold (-20 C on average) in January and February. This vehicle has been great. Of the 4000 km we have put on it, approx. 3000 have been in electric mode. Regarding FORM, basically for the 2 coldest month, we were in hybrid mode, which has great gas savings, but electric was challenging, to the point we just didn't worry about it. Summary, if you can't read a manual, have little to no patience and maybe are not a little mechanically inclined...you probably shouldn't buy this vehicle.
Thank You again for a Very Calm purposeful report. Your new one in white looks Beautiful. I forgot to mention that mine in sargent green( my dream from the Willy`s from 1944 Normanndie) are a 2022 model Have a Nice day. TK 🇳🇴
Thanks for watching. Check out our one month review for even more details about the 4xe. We've got a great relationship with a dealer, if we can help - let me know.
@@canadianmom1975 those numbers are better than I heard before for a particularly anecdotal account of another make and model, but to be fair it was a lot earlier in the EV game. Good to see improvement!
Wow, so you were able to use Electric Mode in the winter -- That's great! I've read horror stories about that FORM preventing use of Electric Mode. We'll see how our new Rubicon 4xe does, we got it in springtime and we live here in northern Utah where it sometimes gets down to -20 degrees F. I'm prepared to use OBDLink MX+ to find any root cause of FORM or other cause of Electric Mode Unavailable.
My volt has similar system, it turns on the gas motor until it gets up to temp (5min) to use waste heat to warm coolant that then heats the battery so you don’t use up your battery trying to heat itself up
Thoughts on the current recall due to exploding batteries? Apparently Jeep is asking owners not to charge the vehicles and park them outside? I was interested in trading in my 2016 JKU for the 2025 4xe but now I'm worried about that issue. Might be best to just hold on to the 2016. It's at 112,000 miles but has been paid off for the last few years (nice not having a car payment)...
Great video! As the original owner of a 2012 JK Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon, I often think of buying a JL generation Wrangler (as a second car!). Until watching your video, I never before would have thought of buying an electric car or a hybrid vehicle---of any kind. Now, next time I'm on Oahu or Maui (my wife and I live on Molokai which has no new or used car dealers), I'm definitely going to visit a Jeep dealership and try a 4xe. (The first one of these I ever saw was pre-launch in Moab, Utah. I was interested enough to take several photos of it, but these photos were all taken early in the morning at the same hotel my wife and I had stayed in the night before.) Again, your video on your 4xe Jeep Wrangler has piqued my interest in this hybrid---but it's a hybrid Jeep Wrangler JL! Thank you very, very much! Andy McKane, 6 February 2023, Maunaloa, Molokai, Hawaii.
Thank you for your comments and your time! The biggest thing with these 4xe's in my opinion is how the masses just don't know enough about this @jeep. Be sure to see more depth detail here: th-cam.com/video/jvtL90mduG4/w-d-xo.html
We shipped our 2012 Unlimited Rubicon JK over here from Utah where we previously lived. We've taken our two front roof panels off the Jeep perhaps 6-10 times in the almost 11 years we've had our Rubicon. (I refuse to park it outside with roof panels removed. We only remove the panels while we are with it and thus can keep it clean and dry inside.) I do love topless Jeeps. I owned and used several different Land Rover "series" vehicles for almost 30 years before moving into a Jeep. I had canvas tops for two of my Land Rovers, as well as station wagon (with tropical roof panel) tops, and also a truck cab. If we had a large garage on Molokai, we'd, undoubtedly, use it for a Jeep with the top off we'd drive every chance we got! (Our small, 1-car garage, is presently stuffed with building materials our Jeep and our Buick Enclave are thus exposed to the Hawaiian sun 365-days a year.) Thanks for your reply! Andy McKane, Maunaloa, Molokai, Hawaii.
@@JeepsOnTheRun The Island of Molokai in Hawaii. We're about 30 miles east of Oahu, and approximately 7 miles west of Maui. Molokai is 38 miles in length, falling in between Oahu and Maui. (Molokai and the Island of Lanai are both part of Maui County.) Andy McKane
Keep in mind, many reviews aren't from owners. The 2024's are the same platform, but many of the computer updates have been fixed -needless to say. Keep in mind, the differences between a 4xe and standard JL have not changed.
I want one but I'm worried about the long-term reliability. My truck I have had for over 200 thousand miles. I doubt I could get that, what do you think? Also how much is a new windshield? 🤣My ex had a commander and we did her windshield a couple of times. People don't realize that is an issue
Within a month of getting my 2022 4xe my battery … my dealership did not believe me. I appreciate finding your video and only wish I would have found it earlier!
That battery seems to take up quite some space in such a small vehicle. Jeep should do a 4xe on the Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer. The false bottom in the cargo area, especially for the extended length, would be a perfect place to stick a hybrid battery and an inverter for something similar to Ford's ProPower.
Whats the cost to replace the electric battery? I have a '19 Wrangler JL and love it. That said I live in Montana where temps get -40 for days and like any other battery charging and recharging a battery after time will deplete them. I've heard the batteries are not a warranty item and the replacement cost is very expensive .
My volt has similar system, it turns on the gas motor until it gets up to temp (5min) to use waste heat to warm coolant that then heats the battery so you don’t use up your battery trying to heat itself up
@@floridastate6543 There is an issue then. The battery that's available to use for electic mode is actually just a portion of the actual capacity. You should never have a loss in power.
Never any issues for me still amazing vehicle and I live in the cascade mountains weather always changing as with anything mileage depends on driving habits
@@JeepsOnTheRun nope, you're still right from what I can tell. Early release notes had the Quadra Track 1 system in the Base GC 4XE. It is now listed as having the Quadra track 2 system and from what I gather it can be flat towed.
My 4xe has 15K. Out of nowhere I had an issue charging the Lithium battery. I could charge the car till I could get into the Mopar dealer. Several updates resolved it. Refresh and not electric available has shown up. I wish the salesman walked me threw these issues.
Thanks for the vid! I can say that in winter, in an unheated garage, it takes about 20-25% longer to charge, at least at 120V. I also do not have any FORM issues. And yeah, there's a LOT of misinformation about this particular PHEV, with the Stellantis marketing department to blame in many cases.
Honestly, it was from someone in a 4xe forum who cut them out in vinyl. If you go to a Jeep dealer and order a new 4xe badge - the actual Jeep 'e' in that logo will fit in there perfectly.
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Great video, thank you. I have a 2012 Sahara. I'll be looking to upgrade soon. I'll either buy a used 2022, 2023 or buy the upcoming 2024. I also RV a lot. On the RVing, do you get charged for charging the Jeep while at a campground? Do you carry solar on the RV? Is it enough solar to charge the Jeep some while boondocking?
Thank! Please consider subscribing for more. I also have a 1 month (VERY DETAILED) video on the 4xe as well as a 30k mile review. Honestly, keep in mind if you buy new (until they discontinue it) you get $7,500 tax credit too. I've never been charged to charge my Jeep at a campground. To be fair, most people don't even know its plugged in. I imagine as EV's become more common we'll see campgrounds pay more attention to it. My RV does have solar, but it's basically to just keep the house batteries charged - not enough to charge off of. Follow our sister channel Midwest Adventure Life too. www.youtube.com/@midwestadventurelife
I got my 4xe in May and I only have 600km on it don't use it often because of where I live and how close I am by foot to get to work. I checked my oil live a few weeks ago it gave me 52% life left which is stupid and makes no sense.
Funny I haven't seen a difference in electric mileage , but I'm here in California it's been pretty cold lately , I've never seen the fuel refresh mode .
Sure can! We have a ton of videos on setting up the 4xe for flat towing too! Be sure to see them all. Here's 1 th-cam.com/video/4JhIO65wYAM/w-d-xo.html
Is that a Bestop Sunrider on your HA 4xe? Do you like it? Noise on the highway much worse? I'm considering that purchase once I receive my Sahara 4xe, but the $949 price is a bit steep.
I have one for my 4xe Rubicon, 1. You have to catch them on sale, u get about 100+ off. 2. It’s not that noisy, alittle more obv than a hard top. But super easy to install and use. Def get one
I have one on each of my Jeeps. Best investment ever. Not sure if it louder or not but definitely different in sound. Not going back to Freedom panels unless an emergency or such. For example, with Hurricane Ian that passed us, I put them back on until it passed. literally took me 15 minutes per Jeep.
I bought a fire cracker red rubicon 4x E rubicon & have been driving it since July 2021. I took it to the dealer for all the updates & had my fuses checked (because I read the forum suggestion) by the dealer for correct seating. I have had ZERO issues & could not be more in love with my Jeep. It is like a PARTY on wheels!
Great video with lots of insight. I just purchased a Sahara 4xe yesterday and love it. One question I have is which octane gas do you use? I’ve seen some that suggest using 91 or 93 octane vs 87. Thanks.
Mine runs absolutely perfect on 87 octane regular. The engine adjusts to the fuel. Don't waste your money on high octane fuel, no matter what someone might say.
What a POS ! This electric vehicle is a colossal pain in the ass. - 15 amp home service takes over 12 hours to charge - battery does not charge while the engine is running (no alternator system) - sucks power (5 mile trip to store takes 20% of the charge) - no 110 volt inverter which is required to run a laptop while charging the vehicle at a charge station. - the battery only lasts 20 miles - no DVD player to watch a FULL length movie while changing - lack of storage, (this is give and take) - this POS now sucks all my reserve power and then some from my solar system - and worst of ALL my friends and neighbors see a hybrid and think I’m a brain dead liberal
awesome review, I have mine for almost a year now and your review is spot on.. same for me during my Canadian winter haha I am losing same amount of mileage I have a heated garage also,but if you don't have a garage during a Canadian winter I am sure it will have more an effect on the battery.. just discovered your channel..'I subscribed' as fast as I could 😂😂
Thanks for the followup review. I have a 2023 Wrangler Sahara 4xe on order, looking forward to picking it up. Subscribed. I look at the 8" step up in the cargo area as a nice way to catch loose items from rolling all the way to the front seats.
I just bought my jeep two weeks ago less than 200 miles on it and a rock busted out my windshield is this something that’s going to happen regularly? I never had an issue with other cars but this is the first time it seems like everything hits the windshield very hard from bugs to dirt whatever is it because the windshield standing straight up??
Yes that’s the reason they break so easily. Hopefully you got extended warranty to cover it because it’s probably going to happen again but one thing I will say is do not tailgate or you’ll be in the shop every other month. Keep a cars length back to help with rocks flinging up at you.
Is there a list of super cold or hot places with Jeep Wrangler 4xe's? I live in Fort St. John, BC, Canada and recently the temps. here were -40C (-50C wind chill) with lots of snow and the roads not maintained properly or proactively. In the summer, the roads here have lots of potholes. I really, really love Jeep Wrangler 4xe but I really want to know if it's good in these kinds of temps. and road conditions. Any info would be great, thanks. Just an added info, I'm not an off-roader, drives very, very minimal, slow & careful driver, doesn't know a lot about cars and I might have to park this on the street. Thanks.
22 Rubi. First time Jeeper. Victim of sudden loss of power and still love it. Let’s be honest the battery is a marketing gimmick but thankful our dummy lawmakers don’t know and got the rebate as a down payment for the lease. Future generations should get better!
Agreed that future generations will improve. I will say, we still get 40mpg vs the 18 our old JL got. Be sure to subscribe for awesome JEEP & 4xe content!
Hi, I have a 2021 4xe. You meningitis there have been 9 updates. I am not aware of any that have been made on mine. Were they done electronically via wifi or were they done at the dealership? Thank you so much, Susan
These were done at the dealership. If you've been for anything, you've likely been updated. If your regeneration breaking button stays engaged on a restart of the Jeep - you've recieved the updates.
I drove one all over Virginia last week with gas only and got 21 MPG which sucks - So even if I charged it on the highway I’d still get 21 MPG - electric around town, but you only get 30 miles ?? That’s useless too - I do over 40 miles around town. This thing is nice, but honestly makes zero sense both around town or highway. My Equinox gets 38 MPG on highway and 24 MPG around town - it blows this 4XE away on milage and 2x the size.
On highway or long trips, is not where the 4xe shines. Now we drive it 60 miles a day, an charge frequently. For us this bumps our MPG to about 30 (I realize this is a fuzzy conversation). This Jeep isn't for everyone, that's for sure. Once you understand it it does make more sense. Charging this vehicle is key for the best MPGe
In my humble experience (I own a fully electric vehicle and a Plug in Hybrid) The people who complain the most about electric vehicles are the ones who don't own any. Amazing the amount of opinion about something they would NEVER choose to own.
Hello everyone. I've had two Jeeps in the past, sold my 2nd one two years ago due to storage limitations but, I'm ready again to buy my 3rd Jeep. I NEED YOUR HELP! This time I want to buy exactly what I want (looks and specs), but need your help in the case you have one for sale or knows who does. Ideally it would be the Wrangler, or Willys, or Sahara, less than 35k miles on it, not older than 2020, ideally for less than $ 40k (financed), ideally with some sort of warranty on it still remaining... asking too much? 🤣... hey, you never really know what's out there, and you will certainly not get if you not ask fot it. Oh, wait, there's more... I'm an Army vet, so I looooove the Sarge green color and with leather seats😉. Key word in the sentences is "Ideally". There you have it. I hope that at least one of you Jeep lovers or enthusiasts can help me with this grueling search. Thank you very much 🙏
Good Review, thanks for taking the time. Your HA 4xe is almost a twin to mine outside of the interior color, looks good. I must say that I've had a slightly different experience that is a major concern for my long term confidence. I purchased my 4xe in June 2021 and to date mine has been in service 3 times for a total of almost 7 weeks. Two of those were related to Battery/Charging issues and the other having to do with Ball Joints. All of these were related to Technical Bulletins (not true recalls) and were know issues with the vehicle. Besides the lengthy time out of service I have concerns with Jeep Dealerships being prepared and able to service the platform as each time I bring it in there's only 1 Technician certified to work on it, regardless of the nature of the issue. I'm sure Jeep and the Dealers are working to improve on this given the extent of 4xe models launching in the next year, so we'll see. For now I have a Bronco on order and expected in early 23...will see how my 4xe makes it over the next few months.
How’s this 4xe still treating you guys? End up getting the bronco and trade in the jeep? I live in North Dakota so a vehicle like a bronco or jeep is necessary. Any suggestions or long term after thoughts on the 4xe would be great before I drop 50+k on a new ride. Thanks!
I have a had my Rubicon 4xe for about 15 months. It is fun to drive and very capable . At 12 months exactly I had the electric heater go out. It would still run just fine but would not go into battery only. I had two dealers tell me it was normal and I did not understand how a hybrid works. Finally I got a hold of a Jeep tech online to get him to send me the tech bulletins and how to troubleshoot. I took that information into the dealer and they finally agreed it was the heater. Took almost 2 months of back and forth. That has been my only issue. I love the Jeep but Jeep really needs to step up their training, especially since they are bringing out the 4xe to many different models. Jeep Cares (Wave) is just about useless.
That sounds like a huge headache. My 50-60k is not working properly. Dealer says that’s how it suppose to be🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻
If I can ask, how much are these running?
I also had my heater go out and it forced me into FORM which made it extremely frustrating. I reached out to one of the TH-camrs (forgot his name) and he gave me some tips on how to approach the dealership. I did that and got my heater fixed within the week- 2 days without a car. I rarely get FORM since then (I drive far enough on gas that it should prevent FORM from occurring). Other than that, I haven’t had any big issues. Also, I’m glad my 2021 4xe Sahara doesn’t have blue tow hooks since it’s HydroBlue and the two colors don’t match.
Heater should not be going out that quickly
I've had mine for about 6 months and have put over 6000 kms on it. I knew from the forums to check the fuses when picking it up from the dealership - lo and behold most of them were quite loose. I seated them in properly and have not had a single issue. Hopefully it stays that way. The thing is a beauty, and everyone is amazed when they see a giant Rubicon roll up silent.
Lobe it! Enjoy!
Nice 👍🏻, would you be able to tell if i ask you many kms you drive in about a week and how much is gas money spent per week
How much are these jeep running?
@@LuisSanchez-bp3hc A Rubicon 4xe with all the bells and whistles will run you ~$85,000 CAD.
I have a 2021 Wrangler 4xe and loving it. It is a fantastic vehicle and I can manage 5 days of work commute/week completely on electric (~20 miles) and use ICE only during weekends.
Same here! We would like an even larger battery but love the plug-in hybrid 4xe powertrain. Doubling battery to around 35 kWh would make sense, much like in the new 2023 Range Rover Sport PHEV (which has Level 3 DC Fast Charging, too!)
What are the issues you had since owning it ?
We have had ours since January 2022, absolutely love it. No issues
Update on your jeep..any issues yet be honest
I own a 2021 4Xe and 2020 Tesla, Model S, Dual motors, long range…I love them both!
Do you have a favorite?
I’ve had the 4xe 2022 20k km and I’ve had 0 issues. Took it off roading on a very challenging trail which involved the Jeep going through water levels that reached its hood. Still no issue
Splashed over the hood or waterlevels as high as the hood lol. I dount as high as the hood, your dash electronics would be junk
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What is the lowest price I can get one?
Had one for awhile. Sold it and went with 392. Loved that one more.
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Great review 👏 . Respect your honesty about the minor issues . Your absolutely right. People will always find something to complain about and blow out of proportion. I think you just sold me!
We've got a great connection with a dealer. - Let us know if we can help! Thanks for watching and the comments.
Thanks. Useful. We bought ours yesterday and never stop watching this presentation and the one before.
Thanks for watching, and commenting. Congratulations on your new 4xe. Are you loving it?
@@JeepsOnTheRun We do like it, so far the battery drained in just 60 minutes drive, wondering if that is normal.
@@hazimalwaali9507 it's not about time as much as it is miles. The Jeep will always push to use electric first (assuming your in hybrid mode) you'll see about 25 maybe 30 miles of range in the battery. Level 2 charing, and frequency of charging is where this vehicle really shines! Did you watch our 1 month review?
@@JeepsOnTheRun I agree about 26 mi so far.
@@hazimalwaali9507 sounds right in line.
My 21 Rubicon has 20,000 miles. Flawless, not even a rattle. Beautiful blue Rubicon. I wish it got more electric miles but I still use about 40% electric overall. Our other vehicle ,IE wife's car is the Ford Mustang Mach E all electric and we love that as well.
What's the lowest price I can get one?
I have a 2020 Wrangler ICE 2.0L, 4 door with 55k miles. Not an issue with a single thing. No a squeaks, rattles, mechanical etc. This is my first Jeep and im impressed. Im going to be looking at the 4xe got my next vehicle.
Update on your jeep any issues yet be honest please I’m thinking about buying one
4xe High Altitude after 8k miles had very bad shutter when traveling above 55 mph. Turned out that from dampers needed to be tightened. Other than that no issues
Any chance you could post a picture of the tires and side of your jeep? I have ‘23 brand new customized one but I feel like the tires were supposed to be different.
Fuel oil refresh. I was able to get this to go away by cycling the "key" on and off a couple times then letting it run for a few minutes.
There is no reserve battery capacity. The gas engine will provide power to the electric when the battery is dead.
I ended only having about 58k miles on my Jeep Wrangler. I just traded it in. Still no issue with nothing. If it was up to me, I would of been looking at a Jeep 4XE or Grand Cherokee & the new 2024 Chevy Traverse. The highway noise that the Wrangler Produces get to you after a while. I do allot of highway driving. Because we live in Brooklyn NY, my wife and I can only afford and park one vehicle. So this time around it was her turn to pick the vehicle. So we ended up with a 2024 BMW X3. Im a Jeep, F250 type guy. Im in construction and have been blue collar person all my life. Even thought Brooklyn NY is not a place for an F250 unless you have a place to park it. Hope this helps Justin.
Definitely a lot of successful 4xe owners! ♥
Thanks for the review. I've been a Jeep owner for many years. 2 Jeeps in the past I've used to both commute and some light wheeling in the Northeast. So, I'm very excited to see what these new Hybrid Jeeps are offering. They have double the HP and I think torque as both my 06 Rubicon TJ and 08 JK. 2 doors.
Plus 49 MPG .... OMG. Best I could get was 15-18 MPG if I kept my foot out of the throttle at highway speeds. I ran 33x10.5 BFGs K-2s with a 2in lifts on both of mine. JK was a 6-speed and a V-6, 06 an automatic I-6
These new hybrids are rated at 375 HP, nealy 300ft lbs. of torque out of an I-4 and batteries. TONS of new features. I'm excited and now want one. WOW WOW WOW. Again, Great review.
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I have an early '21 Sahara as well. 30.000km done. Other than recalls and a cracked windshield (which is an issue w Wranglers) I have not had any issues, never stuck in FORM even in Montreal winters, though my mileage does sink in the winter more than yours. Great review and spot on!
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I'm so glad I researched, I checked all fuses and tighten ball joints on first day !!!
Ball joints? Really?
This thing would be perfect if they increased the range to at lease 40 miles on EV power
I can't disagree - but it's pretty amazing for the 1st one! :)
I said the same thing!
That would require a much bigger battery which I don't think there is space for in this tiny vehicle. Maybe they can later on do a 3 row SUV using the Jeep Gladiator frame (or at least a 2 row extended SUV on the Gladiator frame)... I wonder when they'll do a 4xe with the Grand Wagoneer L, there would be plenty of room in that vehicle for batteries.
I bought a '21 4xe Ruby. EVERYTHING you stated is a mirror of my experience. I do have the clicking when turning and I simply thought that is because the 4xe and 392 have a different front suspension than the other Jeep models, I possibly and wrongly assumed that it was the nature of the 'beast'. I will get it checked out. Due to my typically short trips daily I overwhelmingly use more zapp than dinosaur juice. I average about 65-70% electric use vs 30-35% gas. So not including the costs of charging, I feel like I am getting 40-50mpg. I know there is a cost but have not calculated it yet. My electric bill went up about $30 but a lot of variables to consider. I have had mine a year and a half (purchased May 2021; a mere 2 months after hitting showroom floors). I live in Florida which environmentally is not as taxing in the cold as up North and I do NOT garage keep it. Offroad it is simply impressive. It makes me look better than I am when I let it do the thinking on crawling. I want to get new bumpers but I don't want to lose my blue hooks lol. Anyway, great review and will get my steering checked. Thanx dude!
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@@JeepsOnTheRun Same sound. Thanx. Subscribed.
@@nukejr555 thanks! Good news, easy fix.
Lol "dinosaur juice" I think AvE calls them "dinosaur squeezings".
Looking at them right now, how much are they going for?
Finally thinking about getting a wrangler 4xe. Have had my cherokee for over 6 years and ready to make the leap. Super informative video.
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Very nice video!! You are right to say positive reviews or positive forum remarks are not published enough.
I too have a 2021 HA 4xe and have not had any issues at all. All updates were done before I got it in November of 2021.
For a 1st time model, I am satisfied.
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Hi, great video 👍 and I don't want to disappoint anybody, but I need to tell our story about this car.
We have our Wrangler Rubicon (2022) for about 26 months now. It’s my wife car. She is in love with this model and in Belgium you can only buy the hybrid model new. We live in Belgium, no rough terrain, just our street is muddy over 1 mile when it rains. So no off-road adventures done. It drives great, when it is not in the garage for repair. After 1.5 year (about 6.000miles) the aft RH brake caliper seized. (Again, never driven in very muddy conditions or rough terrain.) Around the same time, airco inoperative >> broken wire. Also, it rains inside on the driver and passenger side. Always wet under the floor mat when it is parked in the rain. Now after about 2 years (10,000 miles) the famous death wobble around 60 miles/hour (Again, never driven in very muddy conditions or rough terrain.) >> steering shock absorber replaced and checked alignment. (JEEP advice) And now since about 3 months the car shakes from left to right at stand still and makes a metal sound. It feels like it wants to shift gear, but doesn’t. It doesn’t shake the same every day, sometimes a bit less or more. In electric mode or engine running, park, rev, neutral or drive position, doesn’t matter. It seems to come from the gearbox. The car went to the dealer, and they changed the wire loop to the electric motor in the gearbox (recommended by JEEP) It didn’t fix it. The car stayed at the dealer for 4 weeks, awaiting a solution from JEEP. No result until now. We picked it up 2 days ago (they wanted their free rental car back). No problem driving it but shacking Steven is still with us 😬 They await another solution from JEEP and are aiming for the gearbox (really?). So there will be a big chance that they need to replace the complete gearbox…to be continued… We are very disappointed as it is not a cheap car (around €70.000 here) and we already have issues as which make it look a 15-year-old car. (Again, never driven in very muddy conditions or rough terrain.) So far my advice is, look up (we didn’t) what issues u can expect on forums even if you buy a new one.
Good review. I’ve had my Rubicon 4xe for nearly a year and love it. Up to 5 badges of honor with more to come. The rubicon model is very capable off road and often times makes obstacles that other JLs struggle with look easy. My #1 complaint, and it’s not against jeep, is the mod market has not caught up with the 4xe. READERS BE WARNED! Not all parts that fit a JL will fit the 4xe. The mod market is slowly catching up, but lately I’ve ran into a lot of dead ends finding a full suspension lift kit that is rated for the 4xe. The added battery weight requires heavier duty suspension than a standard wrangler, so make sure the manufacturer of the lift kit certifies the kit for a 4xe. Call them to verify. Vendor’s websites are not usually accurate when they match the part to your jeep because they assume a JL is a JL. Jeep should almost create a separate line, like JLe, to distinguish it from the other JLs. I’ve ran into the same problem with skid plates, but didn’t do my research before purchasing. Now I have two JL differential skid plates (front and rear) for sale.
Clayton overland has a great 2.5" lift kit, they do recommend - if you plan on loading the rear of the Jeep (RTT, overland camping equipment, roof rack, fridge, etc.,) add the 3.5 to the rear. MetalCloak has the Rocklander Rack System for the 4xe. slowly but surely the aftermarket will catch up.
I have a BMW 330e and this video is very helpful in comparing plug-in hybrids.
Here is a more in depth talk.
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THanks!!
What did you ever decide on?
The reason you have an issue with the electric mode when the temp. is in the single or minus digits F is the lithium ion batteries do not like cold. It takes time for your unit to warm up the battery to operation temp. so in that time it will lay idle. Just another way of protecting the batteries. Jeep has both a warming and cooling mode for the battery to extend its life.
Yes, but even with heating, and stored in a heated garage there is still a difference.
I bought a wrangler 4xe with the cold weather package in January 2022. I live in Winnipeg, lots of snow and very cold (-20 C on average) in January and February. This vehicle has been great. Of the 4000 km we have put on it, approx. 3000 have been in electric mode. Regarding FORM, basically for the 2 coldest month, we were in hybrid mode, which has great gas savings, but electric was challenging, to the point we just didn't worry about it. Summary, if you can't read a manual, have little to no patience and maybe are not a little mechanically inclined...you probably shouldn't buy this vehicle.
How much did you got that for ?
@@ebenezeradusah5872 With that package he paid about $67,000 us.
What's the lowest price I can get one?
@@LuisSanchez-bp3hc used bare minimum 42k
Love my GC 4xe. 12,000 miles of smiles. There are some oddities to the powertrain, but the power is fantastic and it runs smooth.
How long have you owned it? When you say oddity in the power train what do you experience
I’m at first oil change and 7 months and 4500 miles
Loving it?
Thank You again for a Very Calm purposeful report.
Your new one in white looks Beautiful.
I forgot to mention that mine in sargent green( my dream from the Willy`s from 1944 Normanndie) are a 2022 model
Have a Nice day.
TK 🇳🇴
I love that color! Be sure to send us pics!
Mike@Jeepsontherun.com
Thank you for your intelligent and comprehensive review as we are considering one of these. Well done.
Thanks for watching. Check out our one month review for even more details about the 4xe. We've got a great relationship with a dealer, if we can help - let me know.
a real review from an owner. Pisses me off mf'rs that don't even have them report hearsay and call it a review. Thank you sir!
Most welcome! Also check out our 1 month review for a true IN DEPTH dive on the 4xe
Thank you for this. Waiting to get mines in January, so this was very informative.
Congrats. Awesome Jeep! Be sure to check out our more in depth review too.
How many miles before the lithium batteries need replacement, and, how much does that cost?
research says about10 to 15 years..and 5000
@@canadianmom1975 those numbers are better than I heard before for a particularly anecdotal account of another make and model, but to be fair it was a lot earlier in the EV game. Good to see improvement!
Thank you for a great review! I'm getting ready to purchase my first Rubicon and it's the 4xe model. Appreciate the information.
Most welcome ! See our 1 month video too for more details. You'll love that 4xe!!
Wish they made a 2 door but I guess the battery wouldn't fit.
Based on the place they put the battery, in theory it should still fit...
I have a gray 2012 Jeep Liberty 🗽 in new condition. That 4xe looks like my Liberty.
Wow, so you were able to use Electric Mode in the winter -- That's great! I've read horror stories about that FORM preventing use of Electric Mode. We'll see how our new Rubicon 4xe does, we got it in springtime and we live here in northern Utah where it sometimes gets down to -20 degrees F. I'm prepared to use OBDLink MX+ to find any root cause of FORM or other cause of Electric Mode Unavailable.
Definitely keep us posted, thanks
My volt has similar system, it turns on the gas motor until it gets up to temp (5min) to use waste heat to warm coolant that then heats the battery so you don’t use up your battery trying to heat itself up
Thoughts on the current recall due to exploding batteries? Apparently Jeep is asking owners not to charge the vehicles and park them outside? I was interested in trading in my 2016 JKU for the 2025 4xe but now I'm worried about that issue. Might be best to just hold on to the 2016. It's at 112,000 miles but has been paid off for the last few years (nice not having a car payment)...
@@GIJosep I'm on my 2nd 4xe
I love it, don't be scared from the recalls. Remember the negative people also have a louder voice.
Great video! As the original owner of a 2012 JK Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon, I often think of buying a JL generation Wrangler (as a second car!). Until watching your video, I never before would have thought of buying an electric car or a hybrid vehicle---of any kind. Now, next time I'm on Oahu or Maui (my wife and I live on Molokai which has no new or used car dealers), I'm definitely going to visit a Jeep dealership and try a 4xe. (The first one of these I ever saw was pre-launch in Moab, Utah. I was interested enough to take several photos of it, but these photos were all taken early in the morning at the same hotel my wife and I had stayed in the night before.) Again, your video on your 4xe Jeep Wrangler has piqued my interest in this hybrid---but it's a hybrid Jeep Wrangler JL! Thank you very, very much! Andy McKane, 6 February 2023, Maunaloa, Molokai, Hawaii.
Thank you for your comments and your time!
The biggest thing with these 4xe's in my opinion is how the masses just don't know enough about this @jeep.
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@@Jake-pq3iz LOVE the one touch top - but we have cold winters here too.. :)
We shipped our 2012 Unlimited Rubicon JK over here from Utah where we previously lived. We've taken our two front roof panels off the Jeep perhaps 6-10 times in the almost 11 years we've had our Rubicon. (I refuse to park it outside with roof panels removed. We only remove the panels while we are with it and thus can keep it clean and dry inside.) I do love topless Jeeps. I owned and used several different Land Rover "series" vehicles for almost 30 years before moving into a Jeep. I had canvas tops for two of my Land Rovers, as well as station wagon (with tropical roof panel) tops, and also a truck cab. If we had a large garage on Molokai, we'd, undoubtedly, use it for a Jeep with the top off we'd drive every chance we got! (Our small, 1-car garage, is presently stuffed with building materials our Jeep and our Buick Enclave are thus exposed to the Hawaiian sun 365-days a year.) Thanks for your reply! Andy McKane, Maunaloa, Molokai, Hawaii.
@@andymckane7271 Where is "over here". ? :)
@@JeepsOnTheRun The Island of Molokai in Hawaii. We're about 30 miles east of Oahu, and approximately 7 miles west of Maui. Molokai is 38 miles in length, falling in between Oahu and Maui. (Molokai and the Island of Lanai are both part of Maui County.) Andy McKane
Great video 👍 You removed the barriers for many uninformed folks .
That's the biggest hurdle with this. So many just don't understand it.
I just bought a 2024 high altitude and it’s fantastic
We traded this in for a 2024 too! Congrats, enjoy it!!
FORM is a huge issue in states that get single digits all winter. Please, if you're going to buy one, look into it.
I'm in Chicago.. We've had come COLD weather, I've never had form. It also depend sosn how you drive it.
Reviews on the 2024 4XE I saw none of those problems.
Keep in mind, many reviews aren't from owners. The 2024's are the same platform, but many of the computer updates have been fixed -needless to say. Keep in mind, the differences between a 4xe and standard JL have not changed.
I want one but I'm worried about the long-term reliability. My truck I have had for over 200 thousand miles. I doubt I could get that, what do you think? Also how much is a new windshield? 🤣My ex had a commander and we did her windshield a couple of times. People don't realize that is an issue
Awesome video man, thanks for posting…I can’t wait to buy one of these:)
Did you ever purchase one?
Within a month of getting my 2022 4xe my battery … my dealership did not believe me. I appreciate finding your video and only wish I would have found it earlier!
Was a known issue, shame on your dealership :(
What is the lowest price I can get one?
I have a rav4 phev and the heater takes more power than using AC.
I love mine @17,000 and no issues !!!
That battery seems to take up quite some space in such a small vehicle. Jeep should do a 4xe on the Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer. The false bottom in the cargo area, especially for the extended length, would be a perfect place to stick a hybrid battery and an inverter for something similar to Ford's ProPower.
True, but this battery in a large vehicle like thr GW likely wouldn't result in much of a range.
Whats the cost to replace the electric battery? I have a '19 Wrangler JL and love it. That said I live in Montana where temps get -40 for days and like any other battery charging and recharging a battery after time will deplete them. I've heard the batteries are not a warranty item and the replacement cost is very expensive .
My volt has similar system, it turns on the gas motor until it gets up to temp (5min) to use waste heat to warm coolant that then heats the battery so you don’t use up your battery trying to heat itself up
I definitely notice a lack of power when the battery is dead
@@floridastate6543 something isn't right if that's the case.
@@JeepsOnTheRun maybe not, but hopefully not. It only has 2000 miles
@@floridastate6543 I had 50k on mine when we traded in for a 24 and never noticed any power loss.
@JeepsOnTheRun it definitely does when it has no electric available. But I dont think anything is wrong, it just doesn't have the electric
@@floridastate6543 There is an issue then. The battery that's available to use for electic mode is actually just a portion of the actual capacity. You should never have a loss in power.
Never any issues for me still amazing vehicle and I live in the cascade mountains weather always changing as with anything mileage depends on driving habits
Agreed. We love ours still too
Great info I have not heard b4 thanks Mike 👍
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RE: Flat Towing Jeeps
I believe the new Grand Cherokee 4XE Base model cannot be flat towed. The rest of the trims of the 4XE Grand Cherokee can.
Interesting, I'll look into this.
Not sure why this there would be a mechanical change between lines, unless 2wd vs 4wd
@@JeepsOnTheRun nope, you're still right from what I can tell. Early release notes had the Quadra Track 1 system in the Base GC 4XE.
It is now listed as having the Quadra track 2 system and from what I gather it can be flat towed.
Excellent review!! Thank you!
Thanks for watching - do you own a 4xe?
My 4xe has 15K. Out of nowhere I had an issue charging the Lithium battery. I could charge the car till I could get into the Mopar dealer. Several updates resolved it. Refresh and not electric available has shown up. I wish the salesman walked me threw these issues.
Thanks for the vid! I can say that in winter, in an unheated garage, it takes about 20-25% longer to charge, at least at 120V. I also do not have any FORM issues. And yeah, there's a LOT of misinformation about this particular PHEV, with the Stellantis marketing department to blame in many cases.
On 220 I don't notice any difference. Thanks for the response.
Great assessment! It looks like you have a blue “e” on the charge port door. Would you mind letting me know where you found it? Thank you
Honestly, it was from someone in a 4xe forum who cut them out in vinyl. If you go to a Jeep dealer and order a new 4xe badge - the actual Jeep 'e' in that logo will fit in there perfectly.
@@JeepsOnTheRun thanks for the quick reply!
@@n545ca1 Like this - the e I am told will work :).
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@@JeepsOnTheRun perfect. I really appreciate it.
Enjoyed the video, thinking of purchasing this vehicle. Have you experienced any water leakage into the vehicle?
I have not had any leaks on this Jeep.
Great video, thank you.
I have a 2012 Sahara. I'll be looking to upgrade soon. I'll either buy a used 2022, 2023 or buy the upcoming 2024. I also RV a lot. On the RVing, do you get charged for charging the Jeep while at a campground? Do you carry solar on the RV? Is it enough solar to charge the Jeep some while boondocking?
Thank! Please consider subscribing for more. I also have a 1 month (VERY DETAILED) video on the 4xe as well as a 30k mile review.
Honestly, keep in mind if you buy new (until they discontinue it) you get $7,500 tax credit too.
I've never been charged to charge my Jeep at a campground. To be fair, most people don't even know its plugged in. I imagine as EV's become more common we'll see campgrounds pay more attention to it.
My RV does have solar, but it's basically to just keep the house batteries charged - not enough to charge off of.
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I have the 2023 model. Love it!
I'm looking to buy one if I can ask what is the lowest price I can buy one for?
Great information! Thank you
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I got my 4xe in May and I only have 600km on it don't use it often because of where I live and how close I am by foot to get to work. I checked my oil live a few weeks ago it gave me 52% life left which is stupid and makes no sense.
Oil needs changed regardless of miles after 1 year
Are you in Minnesota?
Chicago area :)
It appears that a software update is around the corner for FORM. Did you get the Gorilla Glass for the windshield? Good video by the way.
I am going to buy used 2022 4×e and I would love to get information about used please?
What kind of questions do you have?
Funny I haven't seen a difference in electric mileage , but I'm here in California it's been pretty cold lately , I've never seen the fuel refresh mode .
My friend got one and it’s been at the dealer for 6 months due to multiple problems 😂
Would not a non-plug-in hybrid be better?
Can you tow four wheels down with the jeep wrangler 4xE
Sure can! We have a ton of videos on setting up the 4xe for flat towing too! Be sure to see them all. Here's 1
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Is that a Bestop Sunrider on your HA 4xe? Do you like it? Noise on the highway much worse? I'm considering that purchase once I receive my Sahara 4xe, but the $949 price is a bit steep.
We like it. Video posting tomorrow on it.
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I have one for my 4xe Rubicon, 1. You have to catch them on sale, u get about 100+ off. 2. It’s not that noisy, alittle more obv than a hard top. But super easy to install and use. Def get one
@@christopherbarone3987 Agreed!
I have one on each of my Jeeps. Best investment ever. Not sure if it louder or not but definitely different in sound. Not going back to Freedom panels unless an emergency or such. For example, with Hurricane Ian that passed us, I put them back on until it passed. literally took me 15 minutes per Jeep.
Awesome review… we have a Jl Sport and just love it and have been looking at the 4Xe for a second Jeep this has helped a ton🤟
Don't forget to see the full review too!
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I just received my2023 firecracker red jeep with the one touch. It’s amazing!
I bought a fire cracker red rubicon 4x E rubicon & have been driving it since July 2021. I took it to the dealer for all the updates & had my fuses checked (because I read the forum suggestion) by the dealer for correct seating. I have had ZERO issues & could not be more in love with my Jeep. It is like a PARTY on wheels!
I agree having the options is great, and boy it can off-road what a beast !!!
Still loving it?
I'm excited to see how they redesign the Cherokee in 2025, no doubt it will be 4Xe.
Grand Cherokee 4xe is already out.
@@SunnyWu Yes it is but I want to see what they do with the new redesigned Cherokee the Grand is bigger than I want.
Great video with lots of insight. I just purchased a Sahara 4xe yesterday and love it. One question I have is which octane gas do you use? I’ve seen some that suggest using 91 or 93 octane vs 87. Thanks.
Thanks! We use 87, but we so don't drive it hard. The owners manual does suggest 93 for full performance, but we've not noticed any negative effects
Mine runs absolutely perfect on 87 octane regular. The engine adjusts to the fuel. Don't waste your money on high octane fuel, no matter what someone might say.
Just got a 2024 JL 4xe HATE IT !
We have owned several Jeeps. This is a colossal pain in the ass.
We just traded for a 24 and love it. May I ask what your issues are?
What a POS !
This electric vehicle is a colossal pain in the ass.
- 15 amp home service takes over 12 hours to charge
- battery does not charge while the engine is running (no alternator system)
- sucks power (5 mile trip to store takes 20% of the charge)
- no 110 volt inverter which is required to run a laptop while charging the vehicle at a charge station.
- the battery only lasts 20 miles
- no DVD player to watch a FULL length movie while changing
- lack of storage, (this is give and take)
- this POS now sucks all my reserve power and then some from my solar system
- and worst of ALL my friends and neighbors see a hybrid and think I’m a brain dead liberal
awesome review, I have mine for almost a year now and your review is spot on.. same for me during my Canadian winter haha I am losing same amount of mileage I have a heated garage also,but if you don't have a garage during a Canadian winter I am sure it will have more an effect on the battery.. just discovered your channel..'I subscribed' as fast as I could 😂😂
Thanks for watching, your comments and subscribing :)
Thanks for the followup review. I have a 2023 Wrangler Sahara 4xe on order, looking forward to picking it up. Subscribed. I look at the 8" step up in the cargo area as a nice way to catch loose items from rolling all the way to the front seats.
Thanks for the subscribe! :)
I 2023 have the 4xe Sahara supposed to delivery Sep26
That, along with the way the seats fold, make a pretty good dog barrier, too.
@@miketerrell7573 Keep us posted!!
@@JeepsOnTheRun Just picked up my 2023 jeep 4xe it is nice.Ordered it in June
Very nice looking Jeep, great color matched top
Thanks! ♥
We loved it, now on a 24 4xe
Just hit 10,000 miles and have had my 2023 Jeep Wrangler 4xe for a year. No problems so far.
Great video and insight! Also, I am now subscribed! 👊😊👊
Glad you're loving your 4xe! Thanks for joining us here.
I just bought my jeep two weeks ago less than 200 miles on it and a rock busted out my windshield is this something that’s going to happen regularly? I never had an issue with other cars but this is the first time it seems like everything hits the windshield very hard from bugs to dirt whatever is it because the windshield standing straight up??
Yes that’s the reason they break so easily. Hopefully you got extended warranty to cover it because it’s probably going to happen again but one thing I will say is do not tailgate or you’ll be in the shop every other month. Keep a cars length back to help with rocks flinging up at you.
I fuel up about every 2-3 weeks so what a savings !!!
Im thinking about trading in my 22 WRX for the 4xe. Thanks for the info.
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Is there a list of super cold or hot places with Jeep Wrangler 4xe's? I live in Fort St. John, BC, Canada and recently the temps. here were -40C (-50C wind chill) with lots of snow and the roads not maintained properly or proactively. In the summer, the roads here have lots of potholes. I really, really love Jeep Wrangler 4xe but I really want to know if it's good in these kinds of temps. and road conditions. Any info would be great, thanks. Just an added info, I'm not an off-roader, drives very, very minimal, slow & careful driver, doesn't know a lot about cars and I might have to park this on the street. Thanks.
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22 Rubi. First time Jeeper. Victim of sudden loss of power and still love it. Let’s be honest the battery is a marketing gimmick but thankful our dummy lawmakers don’t know and got the rebate as a down payment for the lease. Future generations should get better!
Agreed that future generations will improve. I will say, we still get 40mpg vs the 18 our old JL got.
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Hi, I have a 2021 4xe. You meningitis there have been 9 updates. I am not aware of any that have been made on mine. Were they done electronically via wifi or were they done at the dealership? Thank you so much, Susan
These were done at the dealership. If you've been for anything, you've likely been updated.
If your regeneration breaking button stays engaged on a restart of the Jeep - you've recieved the updates.
You should put a compressor plugin in your mic audio track. The volume difference is too big at times. Just saying:)
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Do you have to run premium fuel in the 4xe?
I do not. The manual says for optimum performance, you should. I'm 30k miles in w/ no issues.
Mine rarely goes over 25 no matter what time of year
The step up in the back is a big deal - it's a deal breaker
I'm curious as to your use that this is a deal breaker. Thanks for your thoughts!
Geebus even the fuel door is over complicated in new jeeps - so sad
I drove one all over Virginia last week with gas only and got 21 MPG which sucks - So even if I charged it on the highway I’d still get 21 MPG - electric around town, but you only get 30 miles ?? That’s useless too - I do over 40 miles around town. This thing is nice, but honestly makes zero sense both around town or highway. My Equinox gets 38 MPG on highway and 24 MPG around town - it blows this 4XE away on milage and 2x the size.
On highway or long trips, is not where the 4xe shines. Now we drive it 60 miles a day, an charge frequently. For us this bumps our MPG to about 30 (I realize this is a fuzzy conversation).
This Jeep isn't for everyone, that's for sure. Once you understand it it does make more sense. Charging this vehicle is key for the best MPGe
Does it use regular or does it need premium gas?
Regular fuel is just fine
In my humble experience (I own a fully electric vehicle and a Plug in Hybrid)
The people who complain the most about electric vehicles are the ones who don't own any.
Amazing the amount of opinion about something they would NEVER choose to own.
I agree. Most EV haters are ones who have no experience with them - or little knowledge.
Hello everyone. I've had two Jeeps in the past, sold my 2nd one two years ago due to storage limitations but, I'm ready again to buy my 3rd Jeep. I NEED YOUR HELP! This time I want to buy exactly what I want (looks and specs), but need your help in the case you have one for sale or knows who does. Ideally it would be the Wrangler, or Willys, or Sahara, less than 35k miles on it, not older than 2020, ideally for less than $ 40k (financed), ideally with some sort of warranty on it still remaining... asking too much? 🤣... hey, you never really know what's out there, and you will certainly not get if you not ask fot it. Oh, wait, there's more... I'm an Army vet, so I looooove the Sarge green color and with leather seats😉. Key word in the sentences is "Ideally". There you have it. I hope that at least one of you Jeep lovers or enthusiasts can help me with this grueling search. Thank you very much 🙏
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Good Review, thanks for taking the time. Your HA 4xe is almost a twin to mine outside of the interior color, looks good. I must say that I've had a slightly different experience that is a major concern for my long term confidence. I purchased my 4xe in June 2021 and to date mine has been in service 3 times for a total of almost 7 weeks. Two of those were related to Battery/Charging issues and the other having to do with Ball Joints. All of these were related to Technical Bulletins (not true recalls) and were know issues with the vehicle. Besides the lengthy time out of service I have concerns with Jeep Dealerships being prepared and able to service the platform as each time I bring it in there's only 1 Technician certified to work on it, regardless of the nature of the issue. I'm sure Jeep and the Dealers are working to improve on this given the extent of 4xe models launching in the next year, so we'll see. For now I have a Bronco on order and expected in early 23...will see how my 4xe makes it over the next few months.
I can understand your concern. I'll say, I've driven a Bronco for extended periods of time. I'll still take the Jeep ;)
How’s this 4xe still treating you guys? End up getting the bronco and trade in the jeep? I live in North Dakota so a vehicle like a bronco or jeep is necessary. Any suggestions or long term after thoughts on the 4xe would be great before I drop 50+k on a new ride. Thanks!
Why was the windshield replaced?
It's Jeep life. ;). It had a rock hit it, and had a crack
Please fix the audio levels.