I drove a stock '23 4xe around Olympic in Washington, up and down the mountains about 1000 miles and averaged 25.5 miles per gallon in hybrid. Never had a place to plug it in. Re-gen charging was all I had to utilize. On the Highway I was able to get 26.4mpg. The hybrid system on these are awesome!
We still have our red 2022 for another year! I’m hoping I can somehow trade in my 23 gladiator for the new gladiator 4xe that’s coming out :) miss having the extra power when I’m in the gladiator
I have a 2024 Willy’s 4xe with 20,000 on it now with no issues except for a cracked windshield with gorilla glass lol after 2 months of debating Jeep they replaced it for free $1500 window lol and gave me a 3 year warranty for dents and upholstery, etc for my inconvenience and headaches I’m trying to get the window replaced and said jeep doesn’t treat their customers this way. It was the dealership that refused to replace the glass not jeep themselves. long story short we love jeep
My 22 has gorilla glass and it finally cracked too about 10 months in. Our insurance replaces glass for free, but good to know Jeep came through and replaced it for you.
My sister takes her 17 down real trails and does Jamborees and all that. If you use a Jeep for Jeep stuff; expect failures. She killed her 12 in the woods when her rear main seal went in the worst location on the trail. New one has ate diffs axles and everything else underneath it!
Nice! Our 2022 model we still have for 10 more months and it’s been good except for an intermittent issue with the gas cap not opening with you hit the button. Sometimes it won’t work for a few days and then it works again. Hasn’t been annoying enough to take it to the dealer, but we’ll have it addressed at next oil change
Wife had an unfortunate accident where her Wrangler Sport 4D inline 6 where it was totaled. She walked away without a scratch. Jumped into the EV Hybrid world with a 2024 Sahara 4XE. Live in North East Indiana. We installed a 2 hour Clipper Creek charger. 4 weeks in and we have been full electric and more than 1/2 tank of dealership gas remaining. We only received the $3640 for tax credit and put it down on a buy. Extended warranty is a must. So we are paying more monthly but love this Jeep much better than our old Sport.
Yep that’s the hard part :( I ended up replacing with the gladiator cause it was a better deal at the time. But I’ve been hearing now that some states are offering like 15-17k off 4xe wranglers. That’s not the case here in Mi unfortunately but might be worth a drive
Our 2022 is at 34k miles. I’ve not been impressed with Jeep’s dealers but the vehicle has met expectations. It has had a couple minor warranty claims and some recalls, to where I’m considering the extended warranty. But with the electric side covered to 100k we’ll probably roll the dice. It’s not my old 4Runner, for better and worse. The warranty claims: front locker switch stuck in the “locked” position even when unlocked. TrailRecon had the same failure. The steering stabilizer got replaced due to death wobble. And a windshield replacement. Stuff you’d not need a dealer visit to fix in the later years. We intend to keep it around a while.
24" JLU Rubi 4xe owner here, depending on what state you buy in I was able to get 14% off MSRP and $15K off with incentives. Payment is $400/mo for $71K Jeep MSRP.
That’s awesome! Def wasn’t the case here in Detroit a few months ago when I was looking. Even with our employee discount lease payments were around $650+ What state are you in? Did you just recently pick it up?
@omgcrisbreezy on this one we did $1000 total which $418 of that was the first month payment and then 23 more payments of $418. Keep in mind we get employee discount so that def helps.
Yeah the power these 4xes have is the best part. I replaced this one with a gladiator and that 3.6 just isn’t the same lol. Really wish they would have offered a 4xe gladiator
Weird... I have a 2020 2 door Rubicon, and I get 22 to 24 mixed economy and as high as 27 on road trips, assuming the fuel gods are watching me. That's with the 2.0T engine, which I love.
Those are awesome numbers. The shorter wheelbase and less weight probably helps. This one had 35s too which didn’t help. Also, I never had the Speedo updated so actual fuel economy probably around 6-8% higher than what the actual numbers showed on Jeep.
@PeakPerformanceEngineering that's right I forgot about the 35s. My wife likes my jeep so much she thinking about getting one in a few years. We have about a 10 Mike commute to work so I'm really eyeballing that 4XE.
I think the reliability concerns are valid. I’ve had engine shutdown 268 miles after purchase, 2 Electric Battery Heaters Replaced, and numerous recalls.
Ouch, sorry to hear about that, sounds like a complete headache. Knock on wood but the 21 was good for us, and our 22 that we still have that’s about two years old has also been fine to this point. Will keep everyone updated as we go with the 22 still.
I was bragging to everyone my jeep got no issues...currently at dealer for a complete battery replacement 2022 4xe Unlimited Rubi....I'm so sad, I love this car.
MPGe is the electric mileage when it's in full electric mode. Has nothing to do with the MPG you can expect to get when it's in hybrid or full ICE modes. It's unfortunate that this is such a confusing # for folks who aren't used to what MPGe stands for. And it shouldn't come as a surprise that 49MPGe is on the very low end of MPGe for cars, it is a Jeep after all!
You only get 23 miles of driving on the battery max, I have one as a rental while my JL is in the shop, and on a full battery it only gets me 23 miles on the battery which is crazy for the price
Probably depends on the algorithm and how flat it is where you are. Here in MI for us, if it’s warm like right now we get around 25 showing. In winter it is closer to 23 usually. I’ve heard on the Jeep 4xe groups on FB that some of the saharas go as high as 28
My 24 4xe will only go for so long until it decides to refresh or something,maybe a week or so doing 20 to 25 a day so maybe they changed something as i could never go 5 or 6 weeks,it simply wont allow it
Do you mind if I ask what you do for a living, to be able to afford two of these? lol. I live in Canada and these go for between 80 to over 100k. I do wish I could afford one.
I work for a semiconductor manufacturer selling into the automotive industry. But the reason we were able to get these was because they were pretty cheap early on. Both this 2021 and our 2022 have around $60k msrp and the lease was only $410/month with only first months payment due. However when I was now looking at 2024s a few months ago, the leases had skyrocketed to 700-800 month for same vehicle. This is why I ended up just buying a leftover 23 gladiator Mojave since they had nice discounts of around $14k off msrp.
You def need level 2 charging or this doesn’t make as much sense. Level 2 charges in under 2 hours, so for me and my wife working from home we can get 75 miles in a day sometimes
Toronto, Ontario winter similar to Chicago, almost 3 years the Sky-One Touch looks new. I use 303 Fabric protectant, two coats in the fall, then 2 coats in the spring, and a one coat top up middle summer. The 303 beads the water and makes it dry off faster.
Maybe a dumb question but does it charge the battery at all if you don’t plug it in? I know it has regen braking but will it still have the acceleration and torque if you never charge it? I had a TJ I sold and we now have new Model Y. I’m hoping for a little bit of best worlds when I go shopping in August :) Thanks for the video.
Yes even when it goes to zero for battery, it will still actually be saving some electricity for the extra power boost when going full throttle. In my experience though here in Michigan, I have never seen the regenerative braking be enough to actually charge up the battery back to 1% or more.
NP and good luck shopping! I’m a big fan of the 4xe. The power is awesome and being able to hit trails and do short 25 mile trips completely electric is awesome! You’ll dig it.
Oh yeah, I think it’ll be engine off up to about 80 as long as your not commanding too much throttle. If you try to command throttle beyond a certain point it’ll engage the gas motor
Nope, it’s a rubicon so already had 4.10s. And being a 4xe it has a crap ton of torque, no need. Our other 4xe rubicon has 37s, no lift and no regearing. My gladiator Mojave also has 4.10s and 37s and plenty of power for driving around, but maybe if you wanted to tow with it, you might want to do the 4.88s or 5.13s.
Not with the 4xe it has plenty of power to push the 37s. Also this is a rubicon trunk so it already has 4.10s I believe from factory. Now if you had a sport that has the taller gears then yes you may find you need to regear to get the performance back. My 23 gladiator Mojave with stock 4.10s also rocks the same 37s and no issues with the stock 3.6 V6
I have a 2024 4xe that I started leasing in March. I went from a 2019 Wrangler Unlimited Sport. I was trying to figure out why i wasn’t getting the gas mileage I thought I should be (especially on a recent long trip). This video cleared that up for me. Thanks for your video! I learned a lot. I wish I would have seen this video sooner.
You’d have to be in a hilly area to get the battery to charge with the regen. Michigan is flat though so no chance unfortunately. My 23 gladiator on 37s gets 14mpg and our red 4xe on the same 37s gets around 18, sometimes as high as 21, just depends how much electric you use vs gas.
Yeah that’s the price you pay if you wanna drive a jeep unfortunately. Heavy and unaerodynamic. But still it’s nice being able to have doors off and top down
@@PeakPerformanceEngineeringabsolutely, they’re one of my favorite vehicles, super capable with military dna, i think once the 4xe technology progresses hopefully the mpg increases by a lot
The all electric jeep recon will be coming soon and will be interesting to see if they make any range improvements with the gladiator 4xe that’s coming next year.
My numbers were probably a little lower than actual since I didn’t have a tazer to account for the 35s, maybe 5-7% off. But I’d say if you’re seeing 24, that’s still taking into account a lot of the all electric driving. Example being when I would drive to Chicago from Detroit and back for work which is 600ish miles round trip, it would drop right down to 18ish because at that point it’s basically a gas vehicle, your only doing 25 miles of the 600 on electric. I also drive 80mph usually which doesn’t help, but here in Detroit area 80mph is commonplace.
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I drove a stock '23 4xe around Olympic in Washington, up and down the mountains about 1000 miles and averaged 25.5 miles per gallon in hybrid. Never had a place to plug it in. Re-gen charging was all I had to utilize. On the Highway I was able to get 26.4mpg. The hybrid system on these are awesome!
Those are great numbers! 👍 the big tires on ours must be killing it lol.
Great video just got my wife a 24’ 4xe Willy’s she loves it so far .
Nice! 👍
I just got a 24 Willys 4xe. So far I love it.
Me too
Nice! I’m hoping to get a gladiator 4xe next year
Good to know you still love it! I just bought a slightly used 2021 4XE and am absolutely LOVING it so far! Thanks for sharing :)
Awesome! We still have our 2022 4xe Rubi for another 10 months. Hopefully we can get another or even a gladiator 4xe would be cool
I think I will buy one after watching this video. Thank you for all the information.
We still have our red 2022 for another year! I’m hoping I can somehow trade in my 23 gladiator for the new gladiator 4xe that’s coming out :) miss having the extra power when I’m in the gladiator
I have a 2024 Willy’s 4xe with 20,000 on it now with no issues except for a cracked windshield with gorilla glass lol after 2 months of debating Jeep they replaced it for free $1500 window lol and gave me a 3 year warranty for dents and upholstery, etc for my inconvenience and headaches I’m trying to get the window replaced and said jeep doesn’t treat their customers this way. It was the dealership that refused to replace the glass not jeep themselves. long story short we love jeep
My 22 has gorilla glass and it finally cracked too about 10 months in. Our insurance replaces glass for free, but good to know Jeep came through and replaced it for you.
My sister takes her 17 down real trails and does Jamborees and all that. If you use a Jeep for Jeep stuff; expect failures. She killed her 12 in the woods when her rear main seal went in the worst location on the trail. New one has ate diffs axles and everything else underneath it!
I've had mine for 3.5 years only one issue with heating element other then that it's been a joy to own and drive
Nice! Our 2022 model we still have for 10 more months and it’s been good except for an intermittent issue with the gas cap not opening with you hit the button. Sometimes it won’t work for a few days and then it works again. Hasn’t been annoying enough to take it to the dealer, but we’ll have it addressed at next oil change
Wife had an unfortunate accident where her Wrangler Sport 4D inline 6 where it was totaled. She walked away without a scratch.
Jumped into the EV Hybrid world with a 2024 Sahara 4XE. Live in North East Indiana.
We installed a 2 hour Clipper Creek charger. 4 weeks in and we have been full electric and more than 1/2 tank of dealership gas remaining.
We only received the $3640 for tax credit and put it down on a buy. Extended warranty is a must. So we are paying more monthly but love this Jeep much better than our old Sport.
Glad to hear! These things are tanks for sure and usually pretty safe
That’s what all PHEVs are like a tank of gas lasts forever! I’d recommend using it up every 1-1.5 months
I’m sold, now how to afford it here in late 24’.
Yep that’s the hard part :( I ended up replacing with the gladiator cause it was a better deal at the time. But I’ve been hearing now that some states are offering like 15-17k off 4xe wranglers. That’s not the case here in Mi unfortunately but might be worth a drive
Our 2022 is at 34k miles. I’ve not been impressed with Jeep’s dealers but the vehicle has met expectations. It has had a couple minor warranty claims and some recalls, to where I’m considering the extended warranty. But with the electric side covered to 100k we’ll probably roll the dice. It’s not my old 4Runner, for better and worse.
The warranty claims: front locker switch stuck in the “locked” position even when unlocked. TrailRecon had the same failure. The steering stabilizer got replaced due to death wobble. And a windshield replacement. Stuff you’d not need a dealer visit to fix in the later years.
We intend to keep it around a while.
24" JLU Rubi 4xe owner here, depending on what state you buy in I was able to get 14% off MSRP and $15K off with incentives. Payment is $400/mo for $71K Jeep MSRP.
That’s awesome! Def wasn’t the case here in Detroit a few months ago when I was looking. Even with our employee discount lease payments were around $650+
What state are you in? Did you just recently pick it up?
That’s insane. How much down did you put to get that kind of monthly payment
@omgcrisbreezy on this one we did $1000 total which $418 of that was the first month payment and then 23 more payments of $418. Keep in mind we get employee discount so that def helps.
2025 gladiator 4xe confirmed!
Oh heck yeah! Time to trade in lol.
Awesome video 👏👏 luck you 😢 never had an issue. My 21 Sahara only had 17k showing stop and start need a service. But I love my jeep 😂😂
Yeah the power these 4xes have is the best part. I replaced this one with a gladiator and that 3.6 just isn’t the same lol. Really wish they would have offered a 4xe gladiator
@@PeakPerformanceEngineering yep. I just watched your purchasing gladiator that’s awesome deal!! You got a best price 👏👏
Yeah I can’t complain, really enjoying it so far too, nice having the truck bed.
21.3 mpg is the same as my Lexus sedan. Honestly that’s great!
Weird... I have a 2020 2 door Rubicon, and I get 22 to 24 mixed economy and as high as 27 on road trips, assuming the fuel gods are watching me. That's with the 2.0T engine, which I love.
Those are awesome numbers. The shorter wheelbase and less weight probably helps. This one had 35s too which didn’t help. Also, I never had the Speedo updated so actual fuel economy probably around 6-8% higher than what the actual numbers showed on Jeep.
@PeakPerformanceEngineering that's right I forgot about the 35s. My wife likes my jeep so much she thinking about getting one in a few years. We have about a 10 Mike commute to work so I'm really eyeballing that 4XE.
That’s the perfect commute distance for it. You could do almost all the work driving on just electric only
I get high end 27-29 on 35 with just one charge.
Sorry the ride was so loud I couldn't hear you for a bit😂
I love to hear the rooster crowd
I think the reliability concerns are valid. I’ve had engine shutdown 268 miles after purchase, 2 Electric Battery Heaters Replaced, and numerous recalls.
Ouch, sorry to hear about that, sounds like a complete headache.
Knock on wood but the 21 was good for us, and our 22 that we still have that’s about two years old has also been fine to this point. Will keep everyone updated as we go with the 22 still.
Same for me. 22 sahara 4xe, 1 battery heater replaced, 2 recalls
Sorry to here 33,000 miles on my 23 and 0 issues.
I was bragging to everyone my jeep got no issues...currently at dealer for a complete battery replacement 2022 4xe Unlimited Rubi....I'm so sad, I love this car.
@sallahda36 dang that’s a bummer! Fingers crossed for a speedy recovery.
MPGe is the electric mileage when it's in full electric mode. Has nothing to do with the MPG you can expect to get when it's in hybrid or full ICE modes. It's unfortunate that this is such a confusing # for folks who aren't used to what MPGe stands for. And it shouldn't come as a surprise that 49MPGe is on the very low end of MPGe for cars, it is a Jeep after all!
You only get 23 miles of driving on the battery max, I have one as a rental while my JL is in the shop, and on a full battery it only gets me 23 miles on the battery which is crazy for the price
Probably depends on the algorithm and how flat it is where you are. Here in MI for us, if it’s warm like right now we get around 25 showing. In winter it is closer to 23 usually. I’ve heard on the Jeep 4xe groups on FB that some of the saharas go as high as 28
TY for a great information.
Welcome :) 🙏
I go about 3 weeks without fueling up
Nice not having to hit the gas station very much:)
My 24 4xe will only go for so long until it decides to refresh or something,maybe a week or so doing 20 to 25 a day so maybe they changed something as i could never go 5 or 6 weeks,it simply wont allow it
Yeah maybe one of the updates.
Do you mind if I ask what you do for a living, to be able to afford two of these? lol. I live in Canada and these go for between 80 to over 100k. I do wish I could afford one.
I work for a semiconductor manufacturer selling into the automotive industry.
But the reason we were able to get these was because they were pretty cheap early on. Both this 2021 and our 2022 have around $60k msrp and the lease was only $410/month with only first months payment due.
However when I was now looking at 2024s a few months ago, the leases had skyrocketed to 700-800 month for same vehicle. This is why I ended up just buying a leftover 23 gladiator Mojave since they had nice discounts of around $14k off msrp.
Dang that rooster he was on que 120 v take 8 or 9 hrs screams or if your not plugged in your just carrying 600lbs of batteries scream.
You def need level 2 charging or this doesn’t make as much sense. Level 2 charges in under 2 hours, so for me and my wife working from home we can get 75 miles in a day sometimes
I got the 24 Willys 4xE with one touch soft top. Im a bit worried if it’ll hold up in Chicago winter weather.
A friend of ours has it on her Jeep here in Michigan and it’s been fine so you should be good :)
Toronto, Ontario winter similar to Chicago, almost 3 years the Sky-One Touch looks new.
I use 303 Fabric protectant, two coats in the fall, then 2 coats in the spring, and a one coat top up middle summer.
The 303 beads the water and makes it dry off faster.
@@Davin4xe thanks, I will give that a try.
No rubbing even when if flexes ?
Nope, 35s are no prob on the 4xe rubicon. Idk about other models of 4xe cause they have different suspension
Maybe a dumb question but does it charge the battery at all if you don’t plug it in? I know it has regen braking but will it still have the acceleration and torque if you never charge it? I had a TJ I sold and we now have new Model Y. I’m hoping for a little bit of best worlds when I go shopping in August :)
Thanks for the video.
Yes even when it goes to zero for battery, it will still actually be saving some electricity for the extra power boost when going full throttle.
In my experience though here in Michigan, I have never seen the regenerative braking be enough to actually charge up the battery back to 1% or more.
@@PeakPerformanceEngineering thanks!
NP and good luck shopping! I’m a big fan of the 4xe. The power is awesome and being able to hit trails and do short 25 mile trips completely electric is awesome! You’ll dig it.
Can you drive at 60 MPH on 100% electric ?
Oh yeah, I think it’ll be engine off up to about 80 as long as your not commanding too much throttle. If you try to command throttle beyond a certain point it’ll engage the gas motor
Yes. If you keep a light foot. If you try to accelerate fast, engine will turn on. At about 65 or 70 up hill, it usually turns on.
Yep and with bigger tires it definitely turns on easier than without
Did you regear Jeep to put 35 inch tires on?
Nope, it’s a rubicon so already had 4.10s. And being a 4xe it has a crap ton of torque, no need. Our other 4xe rubicon has 37s, no lift and no regearing.
My gladiator Mojave also has 4.10s and 37s and plenty of power for driving around, but maybe if you wanted to tow with it, you might want to do the 4.88s or 5.13s.
Did you need to change anything else after putting 37’s on your jeep? I’m wanting 37’s but I heard you need to change gearing.
Not with the 4xe it has plenty of power to push the 37s. Also this is a rubicon trunk so it already has 4.10s I believe from factory. Now if you had a sport that has the taller gears then yes you may find you need to regear to get the performance back.
My 23 gladiator Mojave with stock 4.10s also rocks the same 37s and no issues with the stock 3.6 V6
@@PeakPerformanceEngineering nice! That makes my decision easy. Keep it up!
Do you always drive in 4WD Auto?
I have a 2024 4xe that I started leasing in March. I went from a 2019 Wrangler Unlimited Sport. I was trying to figure out why i wasn’t getting the gas mileage I thought I should be (especially on a recent long trip). This video cleared that up for me. Thanks for your video! I learned a lot. I wish I would have seen this video sooner.
Yep always 4wd auto for 32k miles :)
18 mpg is horrible how the heck doesn't the battery charge while you drive it?
You’d have to be in a hilly area to get the battery to charge with the regen. Michigan is flat though so no chance unfortunately.
My 23 gladiator on 37s gets 14mpg and our red 4xe on the same 37s gets around 18, sometimes as high as 21, just depends how much electric you use vs gas.
@@PeakPerformanceEngineering thats not the best you’re very chill about it, I’m so cheap if i don’t get 30 mpg at least I’m gutted
Yeah that’s the price you pay if you wanna drive a jeep unfortunately. Heavy and unaerodynamic. But still it’s nice being able to have doors off and top down
@@PeakPerformanceEngineeringabsolutely, they’re one of my favorite vehicles, super capable with military dna, i think once the 4xe technology progresses hopefully the mpg increases by a lot
The all electric jeep recon will be coming soon and will be interesting to see if they make any range improvements with the gladiator 4xe that’s coming next year.
It was so loud I barely can hear you when you were driving
Sorry, I wasn’t able to use a mic for this video, it ended up breaking and I was still waiting for the new replacement to arrive
That's BS I get 24 on long trips single charge if you drive it .
My numbers were probably a little lower than actual since I didn’t have a tazer to account for the 35s, maybe 5-7% off.
But I’d say if you’re seeing 24, that’s still taking into account a lot of the all electric driving.
Example being when I would drive to Chicago from Detroit and back for work which is 600ish miles round trip, it would drop right down to 18ish because at that point it’s basically a gas vehicle, your only doing 25 miles of the 600 on electric.
I also drive 80mph usually which doesn’t help, but here in Detroit area 80mph is commonplace.
not worth the money ....
Compared to what?