Off topic but are these videos of the year? They look dated to me like they were filmed in the late 90s. I appreciate the video though, watched it all the way through.
@@magemyst7245 Grace and Peace to you. I would be delighted to discuss this on Telegram with you and anyone else who reads this comment. Please email me at StrongerEveryday@gmail.com so that I can send you the link to how to contact me on Telegram. I'd post it here, but TH-cam would remove my post. I look forward to speaking with you. God bless you.
@@petervansickel5425 Grace and Peace to you. I would be delighted to discuss this on Telegram with you and anyone else who reads this comment. Please email me at StrongerEveryday@gmail.com so that I can send you the link to how to contact me on Telegram. I'd post it here, but TH-cam would remove my post. I look forward to speaking with you. God bless you.
I have been watching Cliffe for years. I even got to meet him at his church. I just got back from my 7-month deployment. Thankfully I was able to download some of Cliffe's discussions. Some from years ago, and it is fascinating that those who resist Christ use redundant arguments or rehashed debunked arguments. Or they argue from an objective moral standard without naming their objective moral standard.
with this 'objective moral standard' thing that you talk about jrc, I cant speak for others, but I don't quite see it like that. Humans are social creatures, we all have a basic understanding of right and wrong/ good and bad, we learn this from our parents at a very young age. Forget all about objective and subjective standards if you can, and see it in a completely different way, we do things to benefit eachother as a social thing, some call it human flourishing. But we're also capable of being greedy, violent, hateful, .. those things are very much the opposite of benefitting the group. If wild animals can learn to live in relative harmony, and work together to hunt for food which benefits the group, humans, with a much bigger brain, are capable of much more. .. but we're also capable of much more violence and greedy. look at the money that people like Jeff Bezos have, and the good, they *could* do with it.
@@bonnie43uk We are NOT on the same scale of animals, although we can act like that. We know right from wrong....and that doesn't mean we act righteously. Many times we don't. But we still know the difference, and it's not about human flourishing....it's about feeling the sin nature and knowing its wrong.
@@jrc99us thats a great question jrc, think about it, how are we describing human flourishing.. if you look up the word flourish it says :grow or develop in a healthy or vigorous way, especially as the result of a particularly congenial environment. That's a pretty good description I'd say, healthy and congenial are wonderful words to express human flourishing, think of all the best things you like doing in life, we all share similar things in life, sport, music, tv, nature, .. the list of things we like doing is endless. I think it's fair to say most of us want to live a happy peaceful productive life. I've said this hundreds of times, and I'm happy to repeat it.. Humans are a social species, we love interacting with eachother.. I'm enjoying interacting with you now in this pleasant conversation, I'm thinking about all the things in life I enjoy doing. We probably share a lot of mutual interests in life such as Music, film, tv, sport. etc Now compare that with the opposite of human flourishing, think of all the things you dislike in life or things that cause us pain and misery .. which of those 2 options would you prefer? .. obviously option one is far more preferable. Ultimately... i want to have a happy peaceful flourishing life. Maybe I could ask you why you think human flourishing *isn't* ultimately good? , or if you disagree with my summation I'll be more than happy to hear your views. Ultimately, I want my time of this planet to be one in which my life has flourished. I'm 63 now and it's going along quite nicely, If I died tomorrow I'd be more that happy with how my life has panned out overall. I thank my lucky stars everyday that I've had a pretty good life so far. I'm more than well aware that millions of people on this planet havent been so lucky.
@@spacecoastz4026 Ultimately we are animals my friend, albeit highly evolved ones. Yes, I know right from wrong. As far as i can ascertain, i don't believe our morality came from some kind of supernatural being, we slowly evolved our morals over time. eg: a caveman living thousands of years ago would not have the same standard of morals that most of us have today. Even within the last 100 years or more our moral behavior has improved in various aspects of life.
@ 10:54 Priceless. Many so called “Christians” behave this way. They’ll do what they want until the end, then ask for forgiveness. Many of them are so used to manipulating people they think they can do the Our LORD. It’s blasphemy and foolish. I’m very grateful that GOD YESHUA has immensely changed my life and guided me to seek Him and His word. You’ll know the truth. ✝️🙏🏽
Thank you. Jesus created us in His likeness and with freewill to choose good or bad behaviour. So we have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. So Jesus atones for our sins and not only ours but also for the sins of the whole world. (1John 2:2) To make us righteous to enter the perfect Kingdom of God Will we accept Christ's Grace of Redemptive salvation.
I’m that’s untrue if Jesus created us in his likeness with free will to choose good or bad behavior then what exactly was the Adam and Eve story? After the serpent manipulates Eve and Eve gives that apple to Adam what does god say? He says oh now man know good and evil just like us and then immediatelycasts a flaming sword in front of the tree of life preventing us to become immortals and gods like himself. So no we were not created exactly in gods image maybe what we look like but that’s would be surprising because gods angels look nothing like us and it’s impossible to see his face due to some blinding light which humans do not posses lol or was it his “pure ness” I forget and the Jesus sacrifice now that you bring it up was that really a sacrifice if he just got resurrected I believe 3 days later I dont think that qualifies as a sacrifice if you just bring whatever you scarified back like for instance if your friend sacrificed himself in a fight and you believed he was dead then 3 days later you find out the doctors saved his life is that really a sacrifce because you still have what u supposedly sacrificed that’s i bad analogy ik um I hope u understand tho
@@valroniclehre193 Quite a few people claimed they saw Jesus after he was crucified and rose from the dead. His disciples were willing to die for what they claimed they saw. How often are people willing to die for a lie? Details about his life and death were prophesied about in the Old Testament. There is more.
My heart goes out to these kids that are obviously mislead and confused. You can tell their ignorance from the "sources" they try to argue. Like they put thier faith in sources they haven't fully read in depth or understand. You can tell by how thier arguments fumble when questioned about sources or facts. It's more like a "I read from somwhere..or I heard that from this..."
6:00 if your condemned to hell when you are living a good life??? Nobody is living a good life. The standard is not comparing yourself to other humans but to the holiness of God. Where are you then on the “good scale”? How many times have you lied? Cheated, lusted, or had a hateful thought? I am at the bottom of that scale, like most of us. So grateful Jesus saved me from myself and let me repent and fall on my face in front of the cross. “Amazing Grace how sweet the sound that saved a Wretch like me...” I am that wretch...
@@theoskeptomai2535 because I’ve done my homework. “I believe the Bible because it is a reliable collection of historical documents written by eyewitness, in the lifetime of other eye witnesses reporting supernatural events that took place in fulfillment of specific proficiency and claimed their writings are of Devine and not of human origin.”-vodi baucham We have over 24,000 Archaeological findings that support the accuracy of the Bible. We have over 5,200 manuscripts or pieces of manuscripts the date back to the first century to the 10th century. This is important because we can compare what we have today as to what they had within one lifetime of Jesus. It is incredibly accurate still. I don’t believe The universe and the complexity of creation just appeared out of nowhere. We can’t even come close to creating something as simple as a flower out of nothing. If you study the complexity of the human body, I can’t be convinced this came from slime. There’s no way to add information to DNA. If that could be done then we could have horses with wings for races or humans with wings for that matter. Way too complex for us to figure out how the eye focuses way faster than any camera we have ever made. I literally could go on for days on the evidence as I’ve looked up, the research I’ve done every day for the last four years. If you actually take your blinders off, and look for the evidence, it’s everywhere.
@@sandina2cents779 perfectly put brother or sister i don’t really know fasho. But what I would like to add is that like you said dna can’t be added. DNA the blueprint for rna to carry out the process of making proteins goes in this pattern. But DNA is made out of protein. So if DNA is the blueprint for making the proteins how the heck did the dna appear if it also needed proteins to be able to carry out its function and even exist to begin with.
"And they will have to pay for their own sin". Eureka! Bingo! Why didn't I think of that?! I'd already excepted the concept long ago (ie, accepted Yeshua/Jesus as my savior) but when Cliffe said it like that it ALL made conscious logical sense. As a teacher I can now explain it. (There's a light bulb 💡 shining brightly above my head. Thanks Cliffe!)
There it is 9:12 - You are either choosing to be with the Father for eternity or separate. Away from the Father where there is a lack of Love and constant thirst, an emptiness. This is perhaps the scariest realization I had many years ago, what hell really will be like. Now imagine demons, entities that were made before mankind, but hate man for being made in the image of God, their ravenous jealousy to have what we are made to reflect, the image of God. Those are who will be the eternal roommates for the people who have chosen to turn away from the ultimate Love and Sacrifice.
This comment just gave a revelation thank you my lord and thank you biscuit that was a real eye opener. I didn’t truly understand we were made in his image and made to reflect all things of god. Just realizing that makes me want to cry high key but what makes me even more sad is the people that reject and like you said are roommates with demons that hate our guts for being just that and ignoring such amazing grace
@@spacecoastz4026 first off, politicians on both sides of the aisle have gone to college so that ain't it. Secondly, this isn't a political problem. We're all human and so we're all guilty of sin and have denied Christ with our actions or words more ways than we can count. It takes grace and mercy and humbleness to accept Christ
@@walterruth5901 you speak of Grace and mercy where are the scriptures that say there for everybody as you imply - where is the scripture that says one gets to choose Christ you making things up and calling it the word of God is blasphemy have a seat (Matthew 15:24) I am NOT sent BUT unto the lost sheep of the house of ISRAEL
The vast majority of university campuses no longer teach critical thinking. They teach their students to appeal to their emotions and appeal to the popular. Both which are logical fallacies.
@@petervansickel5425 Peter, you are really twisting Scripture. The words of Christ in Matthew is due to the fact that Christ's ministry was to the Jews. That is Israel. But Israel rejected Christ as the Messiah...and thus Christ had to die for the sins of the World for our salvation. Yes...all of us get to choose or reject Christ. God does not force Himself upon any of us. View this video to understand that God gives us the choice: th-cam.com/video/b5_ynCV6stA/w-d-xo.html
If he thinks hell is a bad place, then why not repent and accept Jesus so you don't go there. They want their cake and want to eat it too. They want to live a great life without God, the Almighty. The First and THE Last. The Redeemer, Christ who sacrificed Himself for me. Praise HIM.
@@rob-890 LOL! That's not true. In every debate Cliffe has been in, his opponents constantly use the appeal to emotion fallacy in order to win over the audience, with no viable evidence to why their position is correct?
@@rob-890 sure Cliffe uses the Cosmological Argument for his basis to why he believes there is a God. I don't know if Stuart has used the Cosmological Argument but I'm sure he does base his believe on the foundational evidence for theism.
I mean God is the ultimate Shepard. But He uses people. He’s uses people like Cliffe. And he could be using you right now in your life to lead someone to life in Christ. Maybe what you are saying is we all need to be shepherding
@@valroniclehre193 problem is....most "churches" want people to become members of their congregation and have forgotten about Jesus and His teaching that there is no other way into the Kingdom except we be born again.... So we tend to not know the Bible and we are built up in our selfishness and self centered self righteousness....and we think like "good people do good things" and we won't see our need for a Savior cuz we don't have sins to be dealt with... Forgiveness is key. But...the "sheep" that have become their own shepherds....are still sheep....that are being led to a slaughter... 😔 They just think they are shepherds and aren't in a position of following anyone but themselves... Praying for ya'. 😇💪🙏🙌😎
@@mrupholsteryman No the problem is religious people need fundamentally better epistemology. You can't demonstrate any of the assertions you just made, and you wouldn't accept such things yourself, except in the case of your religion.
Going to hell is a choice, he was presented the Gospel. The only thing is for him to except the free gift. Its easy like that. But if we reject a free gift, what Christ did. Who is to blame.... not God! The young man, needs to know that when you come to Christ. He makes us new! New creation! Now we are saved by faith alone in Christ alone! When we come to Christ, we are crucified with Him, buried, what is more we are raisd with Him. Into newness of life... we were dead, but made a life. Its not about me being good, but God being good❤
Is there a full clip about how the conversation went with the kid wearing the Ohio shirt? It cuts off right when you mentioned the pool of Silom. I just went to Israel and saw it in 2019. Excavation is still pulling up evidence from biblical sites.
Exactly! Our ideas of morality come from the existence of God. Exactly, why non-believers do not feel shame for sinning because they don’t believe in God. When I sin, I feel guilt. I don’t feel indifferent or empowered.
If you do not repent and believe in Jesus, you are not following God appropriately. @around 17:15 The people that went to Paradise without knowing about Jesus still believed that the Redeemer Jesus was coming in the future. They believed in that Hope which is Jesus. Luke 23:43
The man who was dying on a cross next to Jesus when he was being crucified and and declared him lord before he died and Jesus said "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise". Proof that even on your death bed you could still be saved. don't wait your whole life to believe becuase he could come back while your still living and then it will be too late.
No. Just whoop it up and declare for Jesus just before you die. Another piece of immoral dogma from the Bible. Jail is full of Christians each with a get out of hell card in the back pocket. Hardly any atheists commit crime in comparison. What a debacle!
@@ismaelmelville47 no, because God knows your heart, and he knows people who are purposefully waiting until their death bed, they won't make it because it's not real faith.
@@GraftedOliveBranch Crusades, Russian pogroms, Hitler supported by Christians, reconquista, inquisition, conquistadors, slavery, missionaries, church genocide, church abuse, wars of religion, Huguenots, the list goes on. Eat that too.
I just started to see Cliff. I was following Dr. Kent Hovind and Dr. William Lane Craig (still am) etc...and then I landed here. Cool. But that kid had a good sorta question. In a way, he said that if you remove drugs, lust, hate, evil thoughts, racism and all that's is bad in Gods eyes (my own words), then what else is there that makes us human with all those sinful attributes imbedded in us while we are alive? There is no way we (not Jesus) can ever do absolutely none of those sins. However, God knows my soul better than I do.
These colleges and university "professors" are just killing the mind and souls of these kids. If there was a Cliff in every school doing this daily it would turn the tide.
Totally agree with you Spacecoastz. You're spot on! And if they insist on having atheist professors they should also have Bible believing professors then at least there is a balance and then people can decide for themselves 👍.
It’s not always legislating morality in the sense of principles , you have growth and efficiency arguments , which ultimately might have some moral basis but it’s usually a plurality of arguments Including these three levels
Or not vote at all. They didn’t vote nor select a king in the Bible. Let the world vote for their king and we Christians vote for our king Jesus the Kingdom of God in the Great Commission make disciples-Matthew 28:19.
Tourniquet: heads I win tails you lose. 1 of the best Christian metal bands ever! That the credit is only His And the reason you take a breath Is the one who has conquered death Is a God of amazing grace Who is willing to plead your case
Hello. I am an atheist. I define atheism as suspending any acknowledgement as to the existence of gods until sufficient credible evidence can be presented. My position is that *_I have no good reason to acknowledge the existence of gods._* And here is the evidence as to why I currently hold to such a position. 1. I personally have never observed a god. 2. I have never encountered a person whom has claimed to have observed a god. 3. I know of no accounts of persons claiming to have observed a god that were willing or able to demonstrate or verify their observation for authenticity, accuracy, or validity. 4. I have never been presented a valid logical argument which also employed sound premises that lead deductively to a conclusion that a god(s) exists. 5. Of the 46 logical syllogisms I have encountered arguing for the existence of a god(s), I have found all to contain multiple fallacious or unsubstantiated premises. 6. I have never observed a phenomenon in which the existence of a god was a necessary antecedent for the known or probable explanation for the causation of that phenomenon. 7. Several proposed (and generally accepted) explanations for observable phenomena that were previously based on the agency of a god(s), have subsequently been replaced with rational, natural explanations, each substantiated with evidence that excluded the agency of a god(s). I have never encountered _vice versa._ 8. I have never experienced the presence of a god through intercession of angels, divine revelation, the miraculous act of divinity, or any occurrence of a supernatural event. 9. Every phenomenon that I have ever observed has *_emerged_* from necessary and sufficient antecedents over time without exception. In other words, I have never observed a phenomenon (entity, process, object, event, process, substance, system, or being) that was created _ex nihilo_ - that is instantaneously came into existence by the solitary volition of a deity. 10. All claims of a supernatural or divine nature that I have encountered have either been refuted to my satisfaction, or do not present as falsifiable. ALL of these facts lead me to the only rational conclusion that concurs with the realities I have been presented - and that is the fact that there is *_no good reason_* for me to acknowledge the existence of a god. I have heard often that atheism is the denial of the Abrahamic god. But denial is the active rejection of a substantiated fact once credible evidence has been presented. Atheism is simply withholding any acknowledgement until sufficient credible evidence is introduced. *_It is natural, rational, and prudent to be skeptical of unsubstatiated claims, especially extraordinary ones._* I welcome any cordial response. Peace.
Read the bible it will tell you without deviating that no you deny God in fact and you know He is real I've never seen you trolling muslim pagan mormon jehovah's witness catholic Judaism ect ect ect You troll Christian videos because indeed it's the only God and you know he exists Why else spend your time larping pretending to be so rational and reasoned Would you not hit up the others as well if that were the case of course you would But you dont
Gods aren't real. None of the proposed gods would help us handle morality, even if they were. We are stuck with the task of figuring out how to get along, and religion is usually an obstacle to that goal.
If atheism is true, and there is no God, then religion is not an obstacle. It is just another subjective opinion that you happen to disagree with. Why? Because if God doesn't exist, then objective morality doesn't exist either, meaning nothing is right or wrong. Everything is just a matter of opinion. That includes religious beliefs. I get a little annoyed when atheists are fine with saying morality is just subjective, only a matter of opinion, but then get super hostile and act like religious beliefs are completely evil and wrong. A little hypocritical if you ask me.
That's a knowledge claim that you're required to substantiate. Again, that's a knowledge claim, you need to provide an argument for that instead of making a statement. Secular ideologies of the 20th century didn't seem to have a problem being the largest obstacle to humanity "getting along" in recorded history, and religion was staunchly persecuted.
As someone who grew up with no religion taught to me, it’s crazy to see people believe in gods just because they are taught that way. Like can they not think for themselves. I think it’s just people are afraid of the unknown and dying so they grasp onto religion
@@parker6936 Yes, morality is very subjective Parker, but there are certain things we can easily see are not conducive to human flourishing, eg: rape, torture, murder, stealing, these are all basic things which all societies across the globe have figured out a long long time ago, way before religions existed. Who gets to say what is good and bad?, well, again, that's not hard to figure out. If you look at our primate cousins, they live in relative harmony for long periods, they have a social code, they know what they can do within the group and what they cant do. There are punishments for breaking those codes, a chimp for example may well get ostracised for breaking a certain rule.. maybe trying take food that he's not entitled to. The more senior chimps will happily give him a good slap. Have you not watched many nature documentaries.. it's common in lots of other animals. Not all religious beliefs are completely evil and wrong as you put it from the atheist perspective, lots of aspects of Christianity I wholeheartedly endorse, being kind, loving and compassionate are wonderful traits. .. those acts encourage human flourishing. If someone attacked you, it's not rocket science to know that you would not like that.
Thus says The Lord: Therefore, listen and have understanding: The Day is upon you, wherein I shall gather up My sheep and every lamb; even those asleep shall be lifted up, and the first harvest shall be accomplished in an instant. And though this Trumpet has reached in number many ten thousands, even now according to these millions, you will have only reached a very few when compared with the whole of the population of the earth, before the first harvest has commenced and is finished. For I tell you a mystery, which is now made known: I am The Lord, and My voice a consuming fire, the sound of which carries to the farthest reaches of the universe. Therefore that which I speak to you has already gone out into the world, even into every ear. Thus that which I command you to trumpet is an echo of My Word spoken to this generation, so those who have heard and receive My Word, who also heed My calling, may seek out its sound to be blessed in it, for further edification, as a continual song drawing them to its Source. Yet most refuse to hear, clasping their hands over their ears; rather embracing this world and its seductive song, which leads quickly down the wide path to destruction. For to the dull of hearing and to the wicked of heart, whose tongues testify to their own demise, whose ears are attuned to evil, their thoughts and musings contemptible, My Letters and My Word in the Scriptures of Truth have become a stern warning, an unrelenting siren blowing continually on the wall which ceases not from tormenting their corrupted souls; as fire upon their skin, as sand in their eyes, as burning wax dripping into their ears. Therefore, Timothy, those who hear Me will also hear you, and those who refuse Me will also refuse you. And those who love Me will also love you, and those who hate Me will also hate you. And those who seek out this Trumpet, loving its sound, will help you. And those who forbear will fight against you... And so I shall increase the sound of My voice seven times, even as Jericho, until all things break and all are broken; many broken unto death, ground to dust beneath The Stone which shall be placed in Zion, for The Stone shall become a great mountain filling the whole earth; while still others, My hidden treasure, My battered and bruised sheep, the wild of My flock, are broken and come to rest solidly atop this same Stone, The Rock of My Enduring Promise. Behold, My Word has went forth and sounds in all the earth, resounding through My body, by mouth and by trumpet. For I am The Lord, and I do not change; as I am, so shall I be and have always been; even from everlasting to everlasting, I AM. Therefore, I have spoken it and shall say it again before this perverse and wicked generation, though they can in no wise bear to hear it: I AM COME![1] THE TIME IS HERE! And behold I, The Lord your God, will do nothing until I have revealed My plans to My servants, the prophets.[2] And this I have done. Give Me glory! Kiss The Son! For darkness is overhead and great turmoil has come upon this generation, the likes of which no generation before has ever seen, the Great and Terrible Day of The Lord! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth! For The Lord your God is coming down to you in judgment and for great ruin, FOR CALAMITY! Behold, I am coming out of My sanctuary to destroy, until there is no sin left upon the earth, until all things have bowed down before Me, to give Me glory! And to those who kiss The Son, to them I shall be God, very close at hand; even they shall rest upon My bosom. Yet to those who forsake Me, who do always rebel against Me and curse My name and The Messiah, to them also shall I be God, very close at hand - The God of vengeance and recompense! The God of judgment and justice! Behold, I shall be The God of horror and dreadful signs to them and their idols, the destroyer of all their temples, The One who reigns in Israel who breaks apart all their false foundations, The King, The Mighty and Strong One who smashes in pieces and wipes away even all they hold sacred! IT SHALL BE BROKEN IN PIECES! Behold I, even I, shall murder every god of the pagans and of the Gentiles, for they are no gods! Even the god of the sons of Ishmael shall die in that day, for he is no god! HE LOOKS NOTHING LIKE ME! Then they will know, I AM THE LORD, For there is no other and none like Me... The One True God, THE ONLY GOD, Whose fury has come in His burning jealousy; Elohim, YAHUWAH, also being your only Salvation and escape; behold, all shall know Me and see My face, YAHUSHUA... Bow therefore, and give glory to My name! For it is time! Return to Me! www.thevolumesoftruth.com/The_Voice_of_The_Almighty_God
I think it’s obvious that Cliffe doesn’t teach white guilt. He is trying to teach humility. I’m fairly conservative and not white and I abhor when people propagate the nonsense that is white guilt. I don’t believe he is doing that.
The young man is right. It is not a fair system. Its either heaven or hell. Even humans know that punishment is not the only way to think about what you did wrong. Cliffe send me a message we'll talk.
When you have a discerning mind, you can look into text without moral absolutism Heaven, Hell, these are just constructs of our condition. They get discussed, but in context when they are mentioned, it's to illustrate the absolute tragedy of sin and it's repercussions It's not a question of fairness, we're looking at a system that says "you all have had your eyes open to the legitimacy of evil, there is a grave consequence to that" God doesn't say behold I have cursed the ground, he is saying you _allowed_ sin to corrupt your body the ground is NOW cursed for your sake. You can do what you want, but the merit of your status is death. Everything you touch will succumb to decay and you're going to have to do things to the most efficient degree otherwise it would be sufficient enough to sustain your body and you will decompose You see God set up the order, he cannot look upon sin because it is an order that he will have to correct like a lawn that isn't up to code. You violate that code, you're going to be fined. It doesn't matter if you're at the end of your rope financially that this is an impossible order to pay, you're going to have to figure out how to sort it out otherwise you'll be jailed. And in jail, forward progress in the private sector is halted to the point where what you can earn is negligible It's not damnation, it's separation. It's still judgment, but one that attributes merit by how well you maintain the whole universe. That old adage, can't do the time, don't do the crime, well that message was speaking to you and me because the word Adam is translated "humanity" Every sperm in his loins is caught in punishment. And you might say, hey that's not fair, I didn't contribute to his failings. But that wouldn't matter, your agency as a human depends on his profile as an installment on the earth. Meaning you don't have an earth suit apart from his blood. Therefore the bounds of human ethics, trials, and functionality exist within you all of which warrants your capacity to sin. You think you can do better? Well that is the wager of life What God did is inhabit the profile of that corrupt fallen creature and demonstrate what it means to function to the order of a blameless person. This is why he is called the only begotten son, we set up for ourselves families apart from God's intent. But he set himself up to be murdered for our behalf so that the connection between us and him can take place again. It's like a lawyer, the court recognizes a lawyer and his purpose in the courtroom much more effectively than you or I wearing an orange jumpsuit. And it's not the clothes that make or break you, it's the stature of he who passed the bar and he who committed a crime People reject the purpose of the gospel, despite being good news because they inwardly have rebellion in their hearts. They want to figure this reality for themselves, arbitrating laws and electing for themselves leaders and champions for their cause. The criminal wants to control their environment from a cage, not appreciating the structure and merit of pre established law The bible is FULL of occasions illustrating man's attempts to replicate order in his own image. Time and time again it ends up with slavery, perversion, and murder. I don't think this is coincidental. Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft and you need that kind of power to rule over persons who don free will
The question “Do We Humans Know Morality Well Enough To Legislate Morality?” first asserts there’s something identified as “humans”: Since there’s no such thing as “human”, never has been, and never will be! Therefore, the correct answer is, “humans” don’t know anything at all.
The 2 Thieves on the Cross is the perfect illustration for who is Saved vs who isn't Saved... They both died as theives, that was their legacy... The one thief believed in who JESUS said he was..He was Saved.. The other thief did not.. He was condemned... JESUS never told either one to repent of their Sins... The one thief was justified by faith.. The other thief was condemned by unbelief.... The Willfull Sin for which there's no ATONEMENT IS UNBELIEF.... That is Blasphemy of the HOLY SPIRIT... The unpardonable Sin....
Around 4:00 Guy asking how can God be fallible? God lacks nothing so if he cannot be fallible God would lack something but how could an all knowing all powerful all present creator be fallible? Jesus is how God as a Man has all the properties of a man including mortality, lack in knowledge, is fallible! This is one of the Amazing ways that shows only The God of Bible can be the only True God all others are lacking they don't become man, die, lack knowledge not fallible.
in my country we have more than 1300 years old bible :3 and it's the same as you have now ; so when it was changed i wonder :3 it's like 1'century new testament :3 / what we have found throughout history
Whether we humans know enough to legislate morality or not, it's all we've got. The bible can't help us. This is evidenced by the fact that, despite Christian claims that the Biblical word of god is an infallible objective moral compass, the bible has been used to justify every single atrocity in which humans have engaged. So, the bible is less a book of moral objectivity, and more a blank slate by which anyone can justify any action by selecting passages that favor their position. It appears that the Bible is not a beacon of moral objectivity, but a weather vane, blowing in the prevailing direction at the time. Now, you could argue, "But those people who used the bible to justify evil acts misinterpreted the scripture!" OK, but that raises two questions: 1) Why does a book, divinely inspired by god, or written by god, have so much wiggle room in its "moral underpinnings" that it can be interpreted in literally any way people want? Where is the infinite wisdom in that? 2) How do you know that you're interpreting scripture correctly NOW? (And don't you think that every group, throughout history, felt that THIS TIME they've got it right also?)
I wrestle with the concept of eternity in hell as fair. This is the question that bothers me the most, and I’ve prayed about this. I understand we are eternal beings, and this life does have a sense of urgency, and that hell by definition is simply separation from God. I understand this, but what if you die at 17 years old? Or what if you weren’t exposed to the gospel at all? Because these things bother me (and others) I know it therefor bothers God immensely more. I have to believe that God is good and just, infinitely more than I am, and I need to learn to trust this.
It's good you ask these kind of questions, i have asked these questions my self as well and came to the understanding that eternal hell is just because sins have eternal consequences as well. We humans make sins small compared to what they really are. If i lie today i can understand the direct consequences but have absolutly no idea how much damage it has done through the generations of people. But God knows the damage we do with our sin from even before we do it. God has to punish people for what they do to the people he loves. Now comes the big thing he even loves the people who did wrong and that's why he offered to take upon himself the punishment we deserve. God bless you brother or sister and may the lord be with you always, in jesus name amen. 😇🕊️❤️
The Bible does not teach that we are immortal beings. It says that God alone is immortal(1 Tim 6:16). We are given eternal life (John 3:16 ). The choice is immortality with God or eternal death without him. Read the book Immortal by Lex Meyer or watch some of his videos on the subject or watch Edward Fudge on youtube or check out his books and debates for more
@@tr889 If it all just came down to with God or without him almost 75% or even more of the bible would be incorrect and even pointless. The entire bible points towards the deceitful nature of our harts and that we have been insanely wicked towards eachother. Our actions have limetless consequentes which God cannot tolerate. The punishment is the pit of fire where the worm never dies and the fire never quinced. Why would there be text about weeping and nashing of teeth if you would seize to exist? And why would Jesus tell about the rich man if he seized to exist? I hope you can pardon me for the intonation. If it comes to such a big thing i'm really concerned because it doesn't go about just a other way of worship but a completly diffrent gospel. One of my favorite apostles is Paul and especialy his intens love towards his fellow man. He would not dare to even let a single stone not been turned to keep the faith of the churches holy because he knew the souls of all the people in the church + all the souls who want to know God depent upon it. May God bless you with his holy spirit and unveil his holy ways. In Jesus name, Amen. 🕊️❤️
@@tr889 I didn't send this message to open some form of a debate. It has always been clear hell is a real place not just a methaphore for seizing to exist. I talk to you because your deceiving people in a fake gospel. As our lord said we have to be like a wise man who built his house on a rock instead of sand. In your message there is nothing about sin, judgement, PUNISHMENT nor salvation. I hope you understand i do not tell you this because i want you to turn to my side. I tell you this out of love and for you to repent from your sins and turn to our Lord Jesus Christ side. I hope you will look upon the ten commandments today ask yourself how much of the commandments you have broke. Know God is good and won't tolerate any evil and come to understand God came to earth in the form of Jesus Christ to suffer and die to take upon himself the punishment you, I and all of creation deserve. Then repent of your sins(which means confess and forsake your sins) and put your faith in Jesus his sacrifice. God bless and i hope to speak to you again in heaven. 🕊️❤️
The unbelievers are what they are, namely disinterested in matters pertaining to God, because of their incessant never ending campaign, of behaving and conducting themselves, and thinking in such a way, that they believe they have gained or potentially could gain the acceptance of that society of people, who is going to hell, whom they deem the worthy ones, who’s respect would be greatly appreciated. But this respect from such a group of peers would never be forthcoming if God was in the equation. Hence the reason for their imperviousness to the gospel of Jesus Christ. In the final analysis it’s either up or down. Either heaven or hell.
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 How about this short comment thread to continuing avoiding my straight forward questions, you coward? Let's hear your pathetic excuses here wher we wont have to scroll so much. I have refuted you first two "facts". Is that enough to expose you as a fraud and a liar? Or do you want to submit you third of the four supposed facts you claim to have presented. And your girlfriend is here to defend you. So come on. Present that third fact in a complete sentence.
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 Now go and cry to you girlfriend and whine about me cowardly in third person because you dare not answer my questions or requests DIRECTLY.
@@godislove363 How about you Jacob. Care to present even one evidentiary fact that suggests your mythological god exists? Your girlfriend has failed miserably at do so thus far. Just the usual and juvenile false projections, unwarranted accusations, and cowardice. Maybe you can do better.
Does Jesus have faith? I'm a huge believer, but I feel he doesn't have faith as his spot in heaven guaranteed, and his knowledge of God is absolute. Please help me understand Alex.
Your question baffles me you're a Believer and you know of Jesus Christ Jesus Christ is God he took on humanity and walk this Earth To Die For Us in the rise again to bring us the Everlasting promise of everlasting life what do you need you confused what you need to understand to get the scriptures are quite quite clear?
@@godislove363 I understand that, I truly do. But break down my question, and know that it's genuine. Or maybe just think of it in the example of a prophet: the bible asks of us to have faith in the concept of heaven (etc..) and he speaks through people who are as human as we are (prophets, j.c..), but these people have been spoken to, or have had divine intervention of some sort.. what I'm saying is 'does this mitigate the concept of having faith for them?'
Jesus is God, why would he worship himself? Jesus is God in the flesh, the perfect example of how God wanted humans to be. God understood man was incapable of understanding a spirit completely. So what better way to show what he meant for us to be as humans then to become one and be the perfect human. It is not a difficult concept, if you break it down. People overrate the flesh over the actions. Jesus did things only God could do. Jesus did things no man did before him and no matter after him did. Clear evidence that Jesus is God. Considering the Bible is the most historically reliable book in history. This is undisputed even by secular scholars. I would ask atheists to show me other works from that timeframe that show otherwise.
Just be a good person and live a good life.... That's alright to live in this world. Like Cliffe said, die and become a fertilizer. But Christian life doesn't end there, because Jesus said and experience the life we will be living after death. ✝️🙏💞✌
One of the problems is man believes he is a "good person". That might be true but my compared to what. Man compares himself to other man. When man does that its not difficult to say "I'm a good person". When the day of judgment comes and we are before Almighty God we will instantly realize the we are NOT good persons compared to HIM. We will instantly know that we are not GOOD enough to enter into His Kingdom. The good news is that GOD already knew we would NEVER be good enough to deserve entry into His Kingdom. That it why Jesus came down from heaven to die for our sins . Look, we all have heard that God is Love, and it is true, but God is also Just and Holy and Good. Therfore He cannot let sins go unpunished . Jesus died for our sins to SAVE us from God's judgment. That is what Jesus is our SAVIOR!. GOD loves us so much that He sacrificed Jesus ,His only begotten Son, to pay for the sins of ALL man. BUT, is we don't accept Jesus as our Savior its as if we are telling God.. I don't believe in You or Jesus and I don't care what You did for me" . Ill live life according to what I believe and I don't need You to be my SAVIOR." God will respect your decision and will step back . But know this, separation from God is HELL. Everything that we know to be good is of God. Everything. So man can't have it both ways. You can't be separated from God and still have something good. Its impossible. So make up your mind before its too late. Day of judgment is coming. Once death comes its too late.
John 3:16-18 [16]¶ For God so loued the world, that he gaue his only begotten Sonne: that whosoeuer beleeueth in him, should not perish, but haue euerlasting life. [17]For God sent not his Sonne into the world to condemne the world: but that the world through him might be saued. [18]¶ He that beleeueth on him, is not condemned: but hee that beleeueth not, is condemned already, because hee hath not beleeued in the Name of the onely begotten Sonne of God.
All the resident trolls are here! (The regulars know who they are.) They show up like clockwork, troll with religious zeal, arguing against the faith that provided the rational basis for the principles this country was founded on - and that presents no threat to their well-being or livelihood. _Me thinks they doth protest too much!_ "How long, you naive ones, will you love simplistic thinking? And how long will scoffers delight themselves in scoffing And fools hate knowledge?" (Proverbs 1:22 NASB20) "And this is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the Light; for their deeds were evil. For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light, so that his deeds will not be exposed. (John 3:19-20 NASB20) "Now when they heard this, they were infuriated, and they [began] gnashing their teeth at him." (Acts 7:54 NASB20)
Cliffe says: 1) God is abhorrent with how humans treat each other. 2) God is angry with Evil. Really Cliffe...? Ps. 47:2 "For the Lord most high is terrible; he is a great King over all the earth." Deu. 7:21 "Thou shalt not be affrighted at them: for the Lord thy God is among you, a mighty God and terrible." Judges 13:6 "A man of God came unto me, and his countenance was like the countenance of an angel of God, very terrible . . ." Deu. 10:17 "For the Lord your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward." Ex. 34:10 ". . . and all the people among which thou art shall see the work of the Lord: for it is a terrible thing that I will do with thee." Neh. 1:5 "And said, I beseech thee, O Lord God of heaven, the great and terrible God . . ." Neh. 4:14 "And I looked, and rose up, and said unto the nobles, and to the rulers, and to the rest of the people, Be not ye afraid of them: remember the Lord, which is great and terrible . . ." Neh. 9:32 "Now therefore, our God, the great, the mighty, and the terrible God . . ." Ps. 66:3 "Say unto God, how terrible art thou in thy works! Through the greatness of thy power shall thine enemies submit themselves unto thee." Ps. 66:5 "Come and see the works of God: he is terrible in his doing toward the children of men." Ps. 68:35 "O God, thou art terrible out of thy holy places . . ." Ps. 99:3 "Let them praise thy great and terrible name; for it is holy." Ps. 145:6 "And men shall speak of the might, of thy terrible acts, and I will declare thy greatness." Jer. 20:11 "But the Lord is with me as a mighty terrible one." Dan. 2:31 "Thou, O king, sawest, and behold a great image. This great image, whose brightness was excellent, stood before thee; and the form thereof was terrible." Heb. 12:21 "And so terrible was the sight, that Moses said, I exceedingly fear and quake." Isa. 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things." If you Christians want to make the claim that your god is, the End-All and Be-All of all things, then he is also Evil. Now...let's see who's the best at trying to twist these verses around in order to separate your god from evil. The fact of the matter is: Man Is God On Earth.
Morality does not come from the barbaric, mass murderer Yahweh, or his son Yeshua (Jesus) who created eternal torture in Hell. Morality comes from discovering that mutual cooperation improves the well being of our planet.
@@douglasmcnay644 I did read the the Bible especially the part about God ordained rape, genocide, mass murder of the unborn, a talking serpent, schizophrenic prophets talking to their gods, human sacrifice and stories of the walking dead. Highly entertaining if you enjoy barbaric human behavior.
You sure did drew, that's probably due to the time difference when these video's are uploaded, 3 hours ago here in the UK it was 02:00am .. I get up early, but not that early, lol. It's 05:00 here now and I'm up, bright eyed and bushy tailed. Always good to see a new Cliffe video ( albeit an old video due to the Covid 19 pandemic) .. Here's a question for you, Did God create viruses?, if he did, he would have done so for a reason I guess, .. maybe to ensure populations were kept at manageable levels, idk. He has his reasons right? If that's correct, maybe we're going against God's wishes in finding vaccines and antidotes for these viruses, and we should allow the virus to cull the population. For what purpose would God create things like viruses, cancer cells, deadly diseases etc? Do you think it's because of Adam and Eve's disobedience? .. it opens up all kinds of questions if thats the case. eg: why punish the offspring for something that we had nothing to do with? what kind of Judge punishes the children for the sins of the parents? Didn't God know that Eve was going to be tempted by the serpent that God placed next to the tree of knowledge?, if he knew, then surely he's more culpable than anyone? Is it ok to question God's motives and to use our rational thought to conclude he was wrong to punish not just Adam and Eve, but every single generation thereafter? That seems incredibly pernicious and evil. Where does it say in the Bible that God told Adam and Eve that if they had any children, that they were to be cursed, and all future generations would be cursed? I have all these questions swirling around my head when I think about the whole Adam and Eve story. Or maybe, we just happen to live on a planet that wasn't designed specifically for us, and we happen to share it with millions upon millions of other living organisms, some of which are deadly to us, and with the help of our scientific knowledge which we've garnered over the years, we're able to eradicate these invisible germs to ensure a healthy life. That seems a much more logical explanation. Do we know what Jesus ( or his dad) said about germs and viruses? It's good that we can chat about all these things on here, isn't it. I don't mean that in a facetious way, it genuinely is good to discuss these issues and hear other opinions. The Covid virus has had a major impact on the planet, the knock-on effects on the global economy is going to be massive.
@@bonnie43uk As for the deadly virus thing: God created good bacteria, and when we used our free will to sin, we fell into corruption and dragged nature with us. The fall recorded in Genesis 3 brought sin, death, destruction, disease, disorder, and general chaos into the world. And as a result the bacteria that was and is good for us can now become dangerous, as well as viruses. God allowing that process to happen through ripple effects of free will does not equal God creating deadly viruses to kill of certain people. I hope that was a coherent answer :)
@@heavnxbound So, did God know Eve was going to be tempted by the serpent? Can you see what I'm getting at Steph? God is omniscient isn't he according to what you believe. Why punish the children of the wrongdoer? As i said, it seems far more logical and coherent to me that we happen to live on a planet that was not designed for us, we share it with other living organisms which just happen to be deadly to us. If there was a world war 3, and we destroyed ourselves with nuclear weapons.. we have enough warheads to completely wipe ourselves out.. there are plenty of living organisms that would survive. Life would go on, without us. In the big scheme of things, we're not that important to the Universe.
@@quikwidit6967 it is more complex than that, but yes. A long time ago when man was first made by God they were given everything to eat but they need to eat they were vegans but then Judas and the sacrificial system had to come into play and people also got a Taste of me and then now today people just our human pigs they want what they want when they want it just as with everything not to put killing animals at one time killing an animal with a necessity to eat and some cultures it's still is they need you to survive because they don't understand. And the even use all of the animal, so the animals not wasted. But the majority of people just eat I eat I don't care about the culture the cology or the ecosystem of the animals and Factor killing themselves because they're doing that they don't even realize if they listened to God, then I wouldn't have to worry about it but because they fear truth because they fear obedience to what is right hey there for Eric Howard and then do what they want to do because they're selfish it goes much deeper than that but that's why Christ came as predicted in the Old Testament to cover our sins because he loves us. The sacrificial system of the animals Weatherbee the birds the Sheep excetera but a shadow of what was to be as priced being the ultimate sacrifice for us.
@@godislove363 At the end of the day the almighty god does not need to punish the living ish out of these animals in the most horrific ways by the trillions. They cry and love and have personalities just like us. It is unnecessarily brutal on a demonic level to do this for any reason, god could have made this world any way he/she wanted. I want to believe but I can not strictly for this reason alone.
@@quikwidit6967 I tried to tell you we should not. I agree with you on most of what you said. The freewill of man can not determine the Righteoudness of GOD. This in fact was proven in the OLD TESTEMANT. This is why CHRIST took the Cross for us.
Cliffe is really a joy to watch.
He really is
He's also a pleasure to meet!
I like how Cliffe engages the students he is in his element
Facts
Off topic but are these videos of the year? They look dated to me like they were filmed in the late 90s. I appreciate the video though, watched it all the way through.
CLIFFE I LOVE YOUR CONVERSATION SO BEAUTIFUL!
Grace and Peace to everyone. These students grieve me. I pray that they'll accept Jesus as the ransom for their sins.
not everybody continues believing in fairy tales as adults
@@magemyst7245 Grace and Peace to you. I would be delighted to discuss this on Telegram with you and anyone else who reads this comment. Please email me at StrongerEveryday@gmail.com so that I can send you the link to how to contact me on Telegram. I'd post it here, but TH-cam would remove my post. I look forward to speaking with you. God bless you.
@@lark8356 grace is for the real israelites(you) ONLY not heathen as its written "exodus 33:13-17"
"Zechariah 12:10" in addition jesus is black
@@petervansickel5425 Grace and Peace to you. I would be delighted to discuss this on Telegram with you and anyone else who reads this comment. Please email me at StrongerEveryday@gmail.com so that I can send you the link to how to contact me on Telegram. I'd post it here, but TH-cam would remove my post. I look forward to speaking with you. God bless you.
@@magemyst7245
Big Bang cosmology, abiogenesis, and Darwinian mythology are ALL fairy tales. _Are you a believer?_
I have been watching Cliffe for years. I even got to meet him at his church. I just got back from my 7-month deployment. Thankfully I was able to download some of Cliffe's discussions. Some from years ago, and it is fascinating that those who resist Christ use redundant arguments or rehashed debunked arguments. Or they argue from an objective moral standard without naming their objective moral standard.
with this 'objective moral standard' thing that you talk about jrc, I cant speak for others, but I don't quite see it like that. Humans are social creatures, we all have a basic understanding of right and wrong/ good and bad, we learn this from our parents at a very young age. Forget all about objective and subjective standards if you can, and see it in a completely different way, we do things to benefit eachother as a social thing, some call it human flourishing. But we're also capable of being greedy, violent, hateful, .. those things are very much the opposite of benefitting the group. If wild animals can learn to live in relative harmony, and work together to hunt for food which benefits the group, humans, with a much bigger brain, are capable of much more. .. but we're also capable of much more violence and greedy. look at the money that people like Jeff Bezos have, and the good, they *could* do with it.
@@bonnie43uk why is human flourishing ultimately good?
@@bonnie43uk We are NOT on the same scale of animals, although we can act like that. We know right from wrong....and that doesn't mean we act righteously. Many times we don't. But we still know the difference, and it's not about human flourishing....it's about feeling the sin nature and knowing its wrong.
@@jrc99us thats a great question jrc, think about it, how are we describing human flourishing.. if you look up the word flourish it says :grow or develop in a healthy or vigorous way, especially as the result of a particularly congenial environment. That's a pretty good description I'd say, healthy and congenial are wonderful words to express human flourishing, think of all the best things you like doing in life, we all share similar things in life, sport, music, tv, nature, .. the list of things we like doing is endless. I think it's fair to say most of us want to live a happy peaceful productive life. I've said this hundreds of times, and I'm happy to repeat it.. Humans are a social species, we love interacting with eachother.. I'm enjoying interacting with you now in this pleasant conversation, I'm thinking about all the things in life I enjoy doing. We probably share a lot of mutual interests in life such as Music, film, tv, sport. etc
Now compare that with the opposite of human flourishing, think of all the things you dislike in life or things that cause us pain and misery .. which of those 2 options would you prefer? .. obviously option one is far more preferable. Ultimately... i want to have a happy peaceful flourishing life.
Maybe I could ask you why you think human flourishing *isn't* ultimately good? , or if you disagree with my summation I'll be more than happy to hear your views. Ultimately, I want my time of this planet to be one in which my life has flourished. I'm 63 now and it's going along quite nicely, If I died tomorrow I'd be more that happy with how my life has panned out overall. I thank my lucky stars everyday that I've had a pretty good life so far. I'm more than well aware that millions of people on this planet havent been so lucky.
@@spacecoastz4026 Ultimately we are animals my friend, albeit highly evolved ones. Yes, I know right from wrong. As far as i can ascertain, i don't believe our morality came from some kind of supernatural being, we slowly evolved our morals over time. eg: a caveman living thousands of years ago would not have the same standard of morals that most of us have today. Even within the last 100 years or more our moral behavior has improved in various aspects of life.
Outstanding.
@ 10:54 Priceless. Many so called “Christians” behave this way. They’ll do what they want until the end, then ask for forgiveness. Many of them are so used to manipulating people they think they can do the Our LORD. It’s blasphemy and foolish. I’m very grateful that GOD YESHUA has immensely changed my life and guided me to seek Him and His word. You’ll know the truth. ✝️🙏🏽
Thank you.
Jesus created us in His likeness and with freewill to choose good or bad behaviour. So we have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.
So Jesus atones for our sins and not only ours but also for the sins of the whole world. (1John 2:2)
To make us righteous to enter the perfect Kingdom of God
Will we accept Christ's Grace of Redemptive salvation.
I’m that’s untrue if Jesus created us in his likeness with free will to choose good or bad behavior then what exactly was the Adam and Eve story? After the serpent manipulates Eve and Eve gives that apple to Adam what does god say? He says oh now man know good and evil just like us and then immediatelycasts a flaming sword in front of the tree of life preventing us to become immortals and gods like himself. So no we were not created exactly in gods image maybe what we look like but that’s would be surprising because gods angels look nothing like us and it’s impossible to see his face due to some blinding light which humans do not posses lol or was it his “pure ness” I forget and the Jesus sacrifice now that you bring it up was that really a sacrifice if he just got resurrected I believe 3 days later I dont think that qualifies as a sacrifice if you just bring whatever you scarified back like for instance if your friend sacrificed himself in a fight and you believed he was dead then 3 days later you find out the doctors saved his life is that really a sacrifce because you still have what u supposedly sacrificed that’s i bad analogy ik um I hope u understand tho
How do you know Jesus created us in his likeness?
@@colinmatts The Bible says that we are created in the image of God. Jesus claimed to be God.
@@curiousgeorge555 Tall claim from a dubious source. Any real evidence?
@@valroniclehre193 Quite a few people claimed they saw Jesus after he was crucified and rose from the dead. His disciples were willing to die for what they claimed they saw. How often are people willing to die for a lie? Details about his life and death were prophesied about in the Old Testament. There is more.
God bless you Cliffe 💜🙏
Thank you!
When he said a "modern day Bob Marley" I almost spilled my coffee! 🤣🤣🤣
This was my favorite video in a long time. What a joy to watch very interesting
My heart goes out to these kids that are obviously mislead and confused. You can tell their ignorance from the "sources" they try to argue. Like they put thier faith in sources they haven't fully read in depth or understand. You can tell by how thier arguments fumble when questioned about sources or facts. It's more like a "I read from somwhere..or I heard that from this..."
25:31 it cut Cliff off when he was going to point out the latest archaeological evidence of the pool.
Yes, they have to cut the videos short because the dialogues go on for hours. Much better to watch live.
@@nabukwe I would love to. Gotta figure out a way to visit the US. Or does Cliffe not do these types of interactions anymore?
@@heavnxbound It's because of the pandemic he's had to put his discussions with the students on hold. Where are you from Steph?
@@heavnxbound I wish he would livestream
@@heavnxbound It's called an aeroplane?
6:00 if your condemned to hell when you are living a good life??? Nobody is living a good life. The standard is not comparing yourself to other humans but to the holiness of God. Where are you then on the “good scale”? How many times have you lied? Cheated, lusted, or had a hateful thought? I am at the bottom of that scale, like most of us.
So grateful Jesus saved me from myself and let me repent and fall on my face in front of the cross. “Amazing Grace how sweet the sound that saved a Wretch like me...” I am that wretch...
HOW did you come to conclude this god is real or that this Jesus ever existed? Is this based on an observation of yours?
@@theoskeptomai2535 because I’ve done my homework.
“I believe the Bible because it is a reliable collection of historical documents written by eyewitness, in the lifetime of other eye witnesses reporting supernatural events that took place in fulfillment of specific proficiency and claimed their writings are of Devine and not of human origin.”-vodi baucham
We have over 24,000 Archaeological findings that support the accuracy of the Bible. We have over 5,200 manuscripts or pieces of manuscripts the date back to the first century to the 10th century. This is important because we can compare what we have today as to what they had within one lifetime of Jesus. It is incredibly accurate still.
I don’t believe The universe and the complexity of creation just appeared out of nowhere. We can’t even come close to creating something as simple as a flower out of nothing. If you study the complexity of the human body, I can’t be convinced this came from slime. There’s no way to add information to DNA. If that could be done then we could have horses with wings for races or humans with wings for that matter. Way too complex for us to figure out how the eye focuses way faster than any camera we have ever made.
I literally could go on for days on the evidence as I’ve looked up, the research I’ve done every day for the last four years. If you actually take your blinders off, and look for the evidence, it’s everywhere.
@@sandina2cents779 perfectly put brother or sister i don’t really know fasho. But what I would like to add is that like you said dna can’t be added. DNA the blueprint for rna to carry out the process of making proteins goes in this pattern. But DNA is made out of protein. So if DNA is the blueprint for making the proteins how the heck did the dna appear if it also needed proteins to be able to carry out its function and even exist to begin with.
This was a great conversation. Well done!
"And they will have to pay for their own sin". Eureka! Bingo! Why didn't I think of that?! I'd already excepted the concept long ago (ie, accepted Yeshua/Jesus as my savior) but when Cliffe said it like that it ALL made conscious logical sense. As a teacher I can now explain it. (There's a light bulb 💡 shining brightly above my head. Thanks Cliffe!)
I wish I could go to your church Thank you
Why.?
There it is 9:12 - You are either choosing to be with the Father for eternity or separate. Away from the Father where there is a lack of Love and constant thirst, an emptiness. This is perhaps the scariest realization I had many years ago, what hell really will be like. Now imagine demons, entities that were made before mankind, but hate man for being made in the image of God, their ravenous jealousy to have what we are made to reflect, the image of God. Those are who will be the eternal roommates for the people who have chosen to turn away from the ultimate Love and Sacrifice.
This comment just gave a revelation thank you my lord and thank you biscuit that was a real eye opener. I didn’t truly understand we were made in his image and made to reflect all things of god. Just realizing that makes me want to cry high key but what makes me even more sad is the people that reject and like you said are roommates with demons that hate our guts for being just that and ignoring such amazing grace
Sometimes I wonder whats the use of universities when these kids can't reason on a basic level 🤦🏾♂️
Its to create more and more democrats. That's the purpose.
@@spacecoastz4026 first off, politicians on both sides of the aisle have gone to college so that ain't it. Secondly, this isn't a political problem. We're all human and so we're all guilty of sin and have denied Christ with our actions or words more ways than we can count. It takes grace and mercy and humbleness to accept Christ
@@walterruth5901 you speak of Grace and mercy where are the scriptures that say there for everybody as you imply - where is the scripture that says one gets to choose Christ you making things up and calling it the word of God is blasphemy have a seat
(Matthew 15:24) I am NOT sent BUT unto the lost sheep of the house of ISRAEL
The vast majority of university campuses no longer teach critical thinking. They teach their students to appeal to their emotions and appeal to the popular. Both which are logical fallacies.
@@petervansickel5425 Peter, you are really twisting Scripture. The words of Christ in Matthew is due to the fact that Christ's ministry was to the Jews. That is Israel. But Israel rejected Christ as the Messiah...and thus Christ had to die for the sins of the World for our salvation.
Yes...all of us get to choose or reject Christ. God does not force Himself upon any of us. View this video to understand that God gives us the choice:
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EL Pablo del siglo 21, que Dios te siga bendiga Cliffe
If he thinks hell is a bad place, then why not repent and accept Jesus so you don't go there. They want their cake and want to eat it too. They want to live a great life without God, the Almighty. The First and THE Last. The Redeemer, Christ who sacrificed Himself for me. Praise HIM.
I love you for what you do Cliffe! I pray that God watches over you and pray that He keeps you safe.❤🙏's
I've recently been translating godly music vids with Spanish subtitles, so feel free to spread them to the Spanish speaking community
amazing, we need to pray for these children's.
He's a model intellectual
He really isn't, ever heard him debate, its emotional question begging at best
@@rob-890 LOL! That's not true. In every debate Cliffe has been in, his opponents constantly use the appeal to emotion fallacy in order to win over the audience, with no viable evidence to why their position is correct?
@@jrc99us Perhaps if you could point out an actual arguement from cliffe or stuart then it would help as the burden of proof lies with them
@@rob-890 sure Cliffe uses the Cosmological Argument for his basis to why he believes there is a God. I don't know if Stuart has used the Cosmological Argument but I'm sure he does base his believe on the foundational evidence for theism.
@@jrc99us Why the biblical God though that only gets you to deism at best. Peace brother.
Is there a place where you can watch the whole thing? I was looking forward to hearing the finding of the pool and it went to another conversation
“Those are the only kind of books we read. The kind that is written by men or women” 🤣🤣 ...Cliffe!!
We need more Shepard’s like Cliffe. He is truly spirit filled. I find it hard to find people like Him in today’s church in America.
Nah we just need less people to be sheep.
@@valroniclehre193 Not sure what you are trying to say
I mean God is the ultimate Shepard. But He uses people. He’s uses people like Cliffe. And he could be using you right now in your life to lead someone to life in Christ. Maybe what you are saying is we all need to be shepherding
@@valroniclehre193 problem is....most "churches" want people to become members of their congregation and have forgotten about Jesus and His teaching that there is no other way into the Kingdom except we be born again....
So we tend to not know the Bible and we are built up in our selfishness and self centered self righteousness....and we think like "good people do good things" and we won't see our need for a Savior cuz we don't have sins to be dealt with...
Forgiveness is key. But...the "sheep" that have become their own shepherds....are still sheep....that are being led to a slaughter... 😔 They just think they are shepherds and aren't in a position of following anyone but themselves...
Praying for ya'. 😇💪🙏🙌😎
@@mrupholsteryman No the problem is religious people need fundamentally better epistemology. You can't demonstrate any of the assertions you just made, and you wouldn't accept such things yourself, except in the case of your religion.
Going to hell is a choice, he was presented the Gospel. The only thing is for him to except the free gift. Its easy like that. But if we reject a free gift, what Christ did. Who is to blame.... not God!
The young man, needs to know that when you come to Christ. He makes us new! New creation! Now we are saved by faith alone in Christ alone! When we come to Christ, we are crucified with Him, buried, what is more we are raisd with Him. Into newness of life... we were dead, but made a life.
Its not about me being good, but God being good❤
Amen Cliffe! If you want to get know Jesus, seek him with all your heart and he will hear you.
Is there a full clip about how the conversation went with the kid wearing the Ohio shirt? It cuts off right when you mentioned the pool of Silom. I just went to Israel and saw it in 2019. Excavation is still pulling up evidence from biblical sites.
this a repost, go search
@@Brucev7 Good to know, the date says 7/24 so I wouldn't have thought of that.
@@asalogan8131 Once you see these, you'll recognize you've seen them already.
Lol. Poor cliff. The woody allen joke went over their heads. 😆😆
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Without God, nobody could make an objective distinction between morality and immorality.
Exactly! Our ideas of morality come from the existence of God. Exactly, why non-believers do not feel shame for sinning because they don’t believe in God. When I sin, I feel guilt. I don’t feel indifferent or empowered.
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Don't be decieved by this guy, he doesn't think Jesus was God in human form and he also supports same sex marriage.
If you do not repent and believe in Jesus, you are not following God appropriately. @around 17:15 The people that went to Paradise without knowing about Jesus still believed that the Redeemer Jesus was coming in the future. They believed in that Hope which is Jesus. Luke 23:43
The man who was dying on a cross next to Jesus when he was being crucified and and declared him lord before he died and Jesus said "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise".
Proof that even on your death bed you could still be saved. don't wait your whole life to believe becuase he could come back while your still living and then it will be too late.
No. Just whoop it up and declare for Jesus just before you die. Another piece of immoral dogma from the Bible. Jail is full of Christians each with a get out of hell card in the back pocket. Hardly any atheists commit crime in comparison. What a debacle!
@@ismaelmelville47 no, because God knows your heart, and he knows people who are purposefully waiting until their death bed, they won't make it because it's not real faith.
@@GraftedOliveBranch Be careful my brother I heard you were locked down again for all of Australia so be careful and peace be with you period
@@Josiahministries You are supposing. Ask some fundamentalists about acts vs faith. Technically last minute repentance is fine.
@@GraftedOliveBranch Crusades, Russian pogroms, Hitler supported by Christians, reconquista, inquisition, conquistadors, slavery, missionaries, church genocide, church abuse, wars of religion, Huguenots, the list goes on. Eat that too.
I just started to see Cliff. I was following Dr. Kent Hovind and Dr. William Lane Craig (still am) etc...and then I landed here. Cool.
But that kid had a good sorta question. In a way, he said that if you remove drugs, lust, hate, evil thoughts, racism and all that's is bad in Gods eyes (my own words), then what else is there that makes us human with all those sinful attributes imbedded in us while we are alive? There is no way we (not Jesus) can ever do absolutely none of those sins. However, God knows my soul better than I do.
These colleges and university "professors" are just killing the mind and souls of these kids. If there was a Cliff in every school doing this daily it would turn the tide.
nope that's called indoctrination. separation of church and state
Totally agree with you Spacecoastz. You're spot on! And if they insist on having atheist professors they should also have Bible believing professors then at least there is a balance and then people can decide for themselves 👍.
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The job of these 'university professors' is to teach facts, not any faith based belief.
@@magemyst7245 There is no such thing.
@@johnhammond6423 And yet what they do teach is "opinion". And not a good one either.
Amen!
Separation from God is Hell.
It’s not always legislating morality in the sense of principles , you have growth and efficiency arguments , which ultimately might have some moral basis but it’s usually a plurality of arguments Including these three levels
Actually it all breaks down to morality decisions
Or not vote at all. They didn’t vote nor select a king in the Bible. Let the world vote for their king and we Christians vote for our king Jesus the Kingdom of God in the Great Commission make disciples-Matthew 28:19.
Tourniquet: heads I win tails you lose. 1 of the best Christian metal bands ever! That the credit is only His
And the reason you take a breath
Is the one who has conquered death
Is a God of amazing grace
Who is willing to plead your case
Hello. I am an atheist. I define atheism as suspending any acknowledgement as to the existence of gods until sufficient credible evidence can be presented. My position is that *_I have no good reason to acknowledge the existence of gods._*
And here is the evidence as to why I currently hold to such a position.
1. I personally have never observed a god.
2. I have never encountered a person whom has claimed to have observed a god.
3. I know of no accounts of persons claiming to have observed a god that were willing or able to demonstrate or verify their observation for authenticity, accuracy, or validity.
4. I have never been presented a valid logical argument which also employed sound premises that lead deductively to a conclusion that a god(s) exists.
5. Of the 46 logical syllogisms I have encountered arguing for the existence of a god(s), I have found all to contain multiple fallacious or unsubstantiated premises.
6. I have never observed a phenomenon in which the existence of a god was a necessary antecedent for the known or probable explanation for the causation of that phenomenon.
7. Several proposed (and generally accepted) explanations for observable phenomena that were previously based on the agency of a god(s), have subsequently been replaced with rational, natural explanations, each substantiated with evidence that excluded the agency of a god(s). I have never encountered _vice versa._
8. I have never experienced the presence of a god through intercession of angels, divine revelation, the miraculous act of divinity, or any occurrence of a supernatural event.
9. Every phenomenon that I have ever observed has *_emerged_* from necessary and sufficient antecedents over time without exception. In other words, I have never observed a phenomenon (entity, process, object, event, process, substance, system, or being) that was created _ex nihilo_ - that is instantaneously came into existence by the solitary volition of a deity.
10. All claims of a supernatural or divine nature that I have encountered have either been refuted to my satisfaction, or do not present as falsifiable.
ALL of these facts lead me to the only rational conclusion that concurs with the realities I have been presented - and that is the fact that there is *_no good reason_* for me to acknowledge the existence of a god.
I have heard often that atheism is the denial of the Abrahamic god. But denial is the active rejection of a substantiated fact once credible evidence has been presented. Atheism is simply withholding any acknowledgement until sufficient credible evidence is introduced. *_It is natural, rational, and prudent to be skeptical of unsubstatiated claims, especially extraordinary ones._*
I welcome any cordial response. Peace.
Read the bible it will tell you without deviating that no you deny God in fact and you know He is real
I've never seen you trolling muslim pagan mormon jehovah's witness catholic Judaism ect ect ect
You troll Christian videos because indeed it's the only God and you know he exists
Why else spend your time larping pretending to be so rational and reasoned
Would you not hit up the others as well if that were the case of course you would
But you dont
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 Catholicism is the highest form of blahs
Do you belive in the painter just be looking at the painting?
@@johandanningsson8108 one would with a real thinking brain
It didn't create itself
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 uh straight facts if you support Catholicism you do not believe scripture period
Very powerful
Gods aren't real.
None of the proposed gods would help us handle morality, even if they were.
We are stuck with the task of figuring out how to get along, and religion is usually an obstacle to that goal.
If atheism is true, and there is no God, then religion is not an obstacle. It is just another subjective opinion that you happen to disagree with. Why? Because if God doesn't exist, then objective morality doesn't exist either, meaning nothing is right or wrong. Everything is just a matter of opinion. That includes religious beliefs. I get a little annoyed when atheists are fine with saying morality is just subjective, only a matter of opinion, but then get super hostile and act like religious beliefs are completely evil and wrong. A little hypocritical if you ask me.
That's a knowledge claim that you're required to substantiate.
Again, that's a knowledge claim, you need to provide an argument for that instead of making a statement.
Secular ideologies of the 20th century didn't seem to have a problem being the largest obstacle to humanity "getting along" in recorded history, and religion was staunchly persecuted.
Sometimes the bible and real life touch, witnessing and having these realization is powerful enough to make grown men cry.
As someone who grew up with no religion taught to me, it’s crazy to see people believe in gods just because they are taught that way. Like can they not think for themselves.
I think it’s just people are afraid of the unknown and dying so they grasp onto religion
@@parker6936 Yes, morality is very subjective Parker, but there are certain things we can easily see are not conducive to human flourishing, eg: rape, torture, murder, stealing, these are all basic things which all societies across the globe have figured out a long long time ago, way before religions existed. Who gets to say what is good and bad?, well, again, that's not hard to figure out. If you look at our primate cousins, they live in relative harmony for long periods, they have a social code, they know what they can do within the group and what they cant do. There are punishments for breaking those codes, a chimp for example may well get ostracised for breaking a certain rule.. maybe trying take food that he's not entitled to. The more senior chimps will happily give him a good slap. Have you not watched many nature documentaries.. it's common in lots of other animals.
Not all religious beliefs are completely evil and wrong as you put it from the atheist perspective, lots of aspects of Christianity I wholeheartedly endorse, being kind, loving and compassionate are wonderful traits. .. those acts encourage human flourishing. If someone attacked you, it's not rocket science to know that you would not like that.
Thus says The Lord: Therefore, listen and have understanding: The Day is upon you, wherein I shall gather up My sheep and every lamb; even those asleep shall be lifted up, and the first harvest shall be accomplished in an instant. And though this Trumpet has reached in number many ten thousands, even now according to these millions, you will have only reached a very few when compared with the whole of the population of the earth, before the first harvest has commenced and is finished.
For I tell you a mystery, which is now made known: I am The Lord, and My voice a consuming fire, the sound of which carries to the farthest reaches of the universe. Therefore that which I speak to you has already gone out into the world, even into every ear. Thus that which I command you to trumpet is an echo of My Word spoken to this generation, so those who have heard and receive My Word, who also heed My calling, may seek out its sound to be blessed in it, for further edification, as a continual song drawing them to its Source.
Yet most refuse to hear, clasping their hands over their ears; rather embracing this world and its seductive song, which leads quickly down the wide path to destruction. For to the dull of hearing and to the wicked of heart, whose tongues testify to their own demise, whose ears are attuned to evil, their thoughts and musings contemptible, My Letters and My Word in the Scriptures of Truth have become a stern warning, an unrelenting siren blowing continually on the wall which ceases not from tormenting their corrupted souls; as fire upon their skin, as sand in their eyes, as burning wax dripping into their ears.
Therefore, Timothy, those who hear Me will also hear you, and those who refuse Me will also refuse you. And those who love Me will also love you, and those who hate Me will also hate you. And those who seek out this Trumpet, loving its sound, will help you. And those who forbear will fight against you... And so I shall increase the sound of My voice seven times, even as Jericho, until all things break and all are broken; many broken unto death, ground to dust beneath The Stone which shall be placed in Zion, for The Stone shall become a great mountain filling the whole earth; while still others, My hidden treasure, My battered and bruised sheep, the wild of My flock, are broken and come to rest solidly atop this same Stone, The Rock of My Enduring Promise.
Behold, My Word has went forth and sounds in all the earth, resounding through My body, by mouth and by trumpet. For I am The Lord, and I do not change; as I am, so shall I be and have always been; even from everlasting to everlasting, I AM. Therefore, I have spoken it and shall say it again before this perverse and wicked generation, though they can in no wise bear to hear it: I AM COME![1] THE TIME IS HERE! And behold I, The Lord your God, will do nothing until I have revealed My plans to My servants, the prophets.[2] And this I have done.
Give Me glory! Kiss The Son! For darkness is overhead and great turmoil has come upon this generation, the likes of which no generation before has ever seen, the Great and Terrible Day of The Lord! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth! For The Lord your God is coming down to you in judgment and for great ruin, FOR CALAMITY! Behold, I am coming out of My sanctuary to destroy, until there is no sin left upon the earth, until all things have bowed down before Me, to give Me glory! And to those who kiss The Son, to them I shall be God, very close at hand; even they shall rest upon My bosom. Yet to those who forsake Me, who do always rebel against Me and curse My name and The Messiah, to them also shall I be God, very close at hand - The God of vengeance and recompense! The God of judgment and justice!
Behold, I shall be The God of horror and dreadful signs to them and their idols, the destroyer of all their temples, The One who reigns in Israel who breaks apart all their false foundations, The King, The Mighty and Strong One who smashes in pieces and wipes away even all they hold sacred! IT SHALL BE BROKEN IN PIECES! Behold I, even I, shall murder every god of the pagans and of the Gentiles, for they are no gods! Even the god of the sons of Ishmael shall die in that day, for he is no god! HE LOOKS NOTHING LIKE ME!
Then they will know, I AM THE LORD,
For there is no other and none like Me...
The One True God, THE ONLY GOD,
Whose fury has come in His burning jealousy;
Elohim, YAHUWAH, also being your only
Salvation and escape; behold, all shall know
Me and see My face, YAHUSHUA...
Bow therefore, and give glory to My name!
For it is time! Return to Me!
www.thevolumesoftruth.com/The_Voice_of_The_Almighty_God
did Jesus teach white guilt?.....NO.......cliffe does though
"I as a educated white Christian" yeah painful to listen to tbh
He admitted in some of the videos that he was struggling with racism before. I believe this is why he feels extra more guilt for being white.
I think it’s obvious that Cliffe doesn’t teach white guilt. He is trying to teach humility. I’m fairly conservative and not white and I abhor when people propagate the nonsense that is white guilt. I don’t believe he is doing that.
Amen Cliff!
Well said.
Lol is this what cliffe references in George Jankos podcast
I saw that and thought the same thing lol
pleaseeee post the rest or give links to the full unedited pieces
They're not living a good life by God's standards because HE requires us/them to repent and believe in Him and Him only.
The young man is right. It is not a fair system. Its either heaven or hell. Even humans know that punishment is not the only way to think about what you did wrong. Cliffe send me a message we'll talk.
When you have a discerning mind, you can look into text without moral absolutism
Heaven, Hell, these are just constructs of our condition. They get discussed, but in context when they are mentioned, it's to illustrate the absolute tragedy of sin and it's repercussions
It's not a question of fairness, we're looking at a system that says "you all have had your eyes open to the legitimacy of evil, there is a grave consequence to that" God doesn't say behold I have cursed the ground, he is saying you _allowed_ sin to corrupt your body the ground is NOW cursed for your sake. You can do what you want, but the merit of your status is death. Everything you touch will succumb to decay and you're going to have to do things to the most efficient degree otherwise it would be sufficient enough to sustain your body and you will decompose
You see God set up the order, he cannot look upon sin because it is an order that he will have to correct like a lawn that isn't up to code. You violate that code, you're going to be fined. It doesn't matter if you're at the end of your rope financially that this is an impossible order to pay, you're going to have to figure out how to sort it out otherwise you'll be jailed. And in jail, forward progress in the private sector is halted to the point where what you can earn is negligible
It's not damnation, it's separation. It's still judgment, but one that attributes merit by how well you maintain the whole universe. That old adage, can't do the time, don't do the crime, well that message was speaking to you and me because the word Adam is translated "humanity"
Every sperm in his loins is caught in punishment. And you might say, hey that's not fair, I didn't contribute to his failings. But that wouldn't matter, your agency as a human depends on his profile as an installment on the earth. Meaning you don't have an earth suit apart from his blood. Therefore the bounds of human ethics, trials, and functionality exist within you all of which warrants your capacity to sin. You think you can do better? Well that is the wager of life
What God did is inhabit the profile of that corrupt fallen creature and demonstrate what it means to function to the order of a blameless person. This is why he is called the only begotten son, we set up for ourselves families apart from God's intent. But he set himself up to be murdered for our behalf so that the connection between us and him can take place again. It's like a lawyer, the court recognizes a lawyer and his purpose in the courtroom much more effectively than you or I wearing an orange jumpsuit. And it's not the clothes that make or break you, it's the stature of he who passed the bar and he who committed a crime
People reject the purpose of the gospel, despite being good news because they inwardly have rebellion in their hearts. They want to figure this reality for themselves, arbitrating laws and electing for themselves leaders and champions for their cause. The criminal wants to control their environment from a cage, not appreciating the structure and merit of pre established law
The bible is FULL of occasions illustrating man's attempts to replicate order in his own image. Time and time again it ends up with slavery, perversion, and murder. I don't think this is coincidental. Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft and you need that kind of power to rule over persons who don free will
The question “Do We Humans Know Morality Well Enough To Legislate Morality?” first asserts there’s something identified as “humans”: Since there’s no such thing as “human”, never has been, and never will be! Therefore, the correct answer is, “humans” don’t know anything at all.
The 2 Thieves on the Cross is the perfect illustration for who is Saved vs who isn't Saved...
They both died as theives, that was their legacy...
The one thief believed in who JESUS said he was..He was Saved..
The other thief did not.. He was condemned...
JESUS never told either one to repent of their Sins...
The one thief was justified by faith..
The other thief was condemned by unbelief....
The Willfull Sin for which there's no ATONEMENT IS UNBELIEF....
That is Blasphemy of the HOLY SPIRIT...
The unpardonable Sin....
L editor I’m trying to see more but the video ends 🥺 I wanted to see more
Around 4:00 Guy asking how can God be fallible? God lacks nothing so if he cannot be fallible God would lack something but how could an all knowing all powerful all present creator be fallible? Jesus is how God as a Man has all the properties of a man including mortality, lack in knowledge, is fallible! This is one of the Amazing ways that shows only The God of Bible can be the only True God all others are lacking they don't become man, die, lack knowledge not fallible.
He believe in all the things he read but not the Bible. May Jesus bless all our journey. ✝️🙏💞✌
Where can we watch the full video?
Yes
Nothing triggers an atheist more than Jesus Christ who is the truth the way and the life Amen.
How did you come to conclude that this Jesus ever existed?
Beyond do un to others as you would have them do unto you! What more do you need??
in my country we have more than 1300 years old bible :3
and it's the same as you have now ; so when it was changed i wonder :3
it's like 1'century new testament :3 / what we have found throughout history
Cliff, How can you talk to these fools any longer? You have the patience of Job.
Where can i watch the full part instead of clips?
The answer is yes. We have the commandments and have had for 3000 years now.
College students love the word, infallible.
Where will you be visiting next and when so I could go
Whether we humans know enough to legislate morality or not, it's all we've got. The bible can't help us. This is evidenced by the fact that, despite Christian claims that the Biblical word of god is an infallible objective moral compass, the bible has been used to justify every single atrocity in which humans have engaged. So, the bible is less a book of moral objectivity, and more a blank slate by which anyone can justify any action by selecting passages that favor their position. It appears that the Bible is not a beacon of moral objectivity, but a weather vane, blowing in the prevailing direction at the time.
Now, you could argue, "But those people who used the bible to justify evil acts misinterpreted the scripture!" OK, but that raises two questions:
1) Why does a book, divinely inspired by god, or written by god, have so much wiggle room in its "moral underpinnings" that it can be interpreted in literally any way people want? Where is the infinite wisdom in that?
2) How do you know that you're interpreting scripture correctly NOW? (And don't you think that every group, throughout history, felt that THIS TIME they've got it right also?)
Psalm, cha.35'studie.that, wow,
God can't be arrogant. He's perfect.
are these old videos? i don’t see a single person on campus with a mask and you don’t see that a lot in these times lol
Kid : nobody knows who he was or if he lived or not. You and i don't know.
Also kid : He was just symbolic .
I wrestle with the concept of eternity in hell as fair. This is the question that bothers me the most, and I’ve prayed about this. I understand we are eternal beings, and this life does have a sense of urgency, and that hell by definition is simply separation from God. I understand this, but what if you die at 17 years old? Or what if you weren’t exposed to the gospel at all? Because these things bother me (and others) I know it therefor bothers God immensely more. I have to believe that God is good and just, infinitely more than I am, and I need to learn to trust this.
It's good you ask these kind of questions, i have asked these questions my self as well and came to the understanding that eternal hell is just because sins have eternal consequences as well. We humans make sins small compared to what they really are. If i lie today i can understand the direct consequences but have absolutly no idea how much damage it has done through the generations of people. But God knows the damage we do with our sin from even before we do it. God has to punish people for what they do to the people he loves. Now comes the big thing he even loves the people who did wrong and that's why he offered to take upon himself the punishment we deserve.
God bless you brother or sister and may the lord be with you always, in jesus name amen. 😇🕊️❤️
The Bible does not teach that we are immortal beings. It says that God alone is immortal(1 Tim 6:16). We are given eternal life (John 3:16 ). The choice is immortality with God or eternal death without him. Read the book Immortal by Lex Meyer or watch some of his videos on the subject or watch Edward Fudge on youtube or check out his books and debates for more
@@tr889 If it all just came down to with God or without him almost 75% or even more of the bible would be incorrect and even pointless. The entire bible points towards the deceitful nature of our harts and that we have been insanely wicked towards eachother. Our actions have limetless consequentes which God cannot tolerate. The punishment is the pit of fire where the worm never dies and the fire never quinced. Why would there be text about weeping and nashing of teeth if you would seize to exist? And why would Jesus tell about the rich man if he seized to exist?
I hope you can pardon me for the intonation. If it comes to such a big thing i'm really concerned because it doesn't go about just a other way of worship but a completly diffrent gospel. One of my favorite apostles is Paul and especialy his intens love towards his fellow man. He would not dare to even let a single stone not been turned to keep the faith of the churches holy because he knew the souls of all the people in the church + all the souls who want to know God depent upon it.
May God bless you with his holy spirit and unveil his holy ways. In Jesus name, Amen. 🕊️❤️
@@jpix96 check out the arguments from the above listed people. The youtube comment section is not a good place for long debate on this, thanks
@@tr889 I didn't send this message to open some form of a debate. It has always been clear hell is a real place not just a methaphore for seizing to exist. I talk to you because your deceiving people in a fake gospel. As our lord said we have to be like a wise man who built his house on a rock instead of sand. In your message there is nothing about sin, judgement, PUNISHMENT nor salvation.
I hope you understand i do not tell you this because i want you to turn to my side. I tell you this out of love and for you to repent from your sins and turn to our Lord Jesus Christ side.
I hope you will look upon the ten commandments today ask yourself how much of the commandments you have broke. Know God is good and won't tolerate any evil and come to understand God came to earth in the form of Jesus Christ to suffer and die to take upon himself the punishment you, I and all of creation deserve. Then repent of your sins(which means confess and forsake your sins) and put your faith in Jesus his sacrifice.
God bless and i hope to speak to you again in heaven. 🕊️❤️
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The unbelievers are what they are, namely disinterested in matters pertaining to God, because of their incessant never ending campaign, of behaving and conducting themselves, and thinking in such a way, that they believe they have gained or potentially could gain the acceptance of that society of people, who is going to hell, whom they deem the worthy ones, who’s respect would be greatly appreciated. But this respect from such a group of peers would never be forthcoming if God was in the equation. Hence the reason for their imperviousness to the gospel of Jesus Christ. In the final analysis it’s either up or down. Either heaven or hell.
Here is a question for only Christians to answer and atheists read. Are we molecules programed or predetermined for all decisions we make?
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 Amen my Brother.
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 How about this short comment thread to continuing avoiding my straight forward questions, you coward? Let's hear your pathetic excuses here wher we wont have to scroll so much.
I have refuted you first two "facts". Is that enough to expose you as a fraud and a liar? Or do you want to submit you third of the four supposed facts you claim to have presented.
And your girlfriend is here to defend you. So come on. Present that third fact in a complete sentence.
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 Now go and cry to you girlfriend and whine about me cowardly in third person because you dare not answer my questions or requests DIRECTLY.
@@godislove363 How about you Jacob. Care to present even one evidentiary fact that suggests your mythological god exists? Your girlfriend has failed miserably at do so thus far. Just the usual and juvenile false projections, unwarranted accusations, and cowardice. Maybe you can do better.
Accepting Jesus after death is eternally tooooo late. Anyone who doesn't accept Jesus or believe in God while on earth is without excuse. Romans 1
Why do you need GOD???
Aswer: FELLOWSHIP...
GOD is a Spiritual being who requires Love, just like WE all do...
Does Jesus have faith? I'm a huge believer, but I feel he doesn't have faith as his spot in heaven guaranteed, and his knowledge of God is absolute. Please help me understand
Alex.
Your question baffles me you're a Believer and you know of Jesus Christ Jesus Christ is God he took on humanity and walk this Earth To Die For Us in the rise again to bring us the Everlasting promise of everlasting life what do you need you confused what you need to understand to get the scriptures are quite quite clear?
@@godislove363 I understand that, I truly do. But break down my question, and know that it's genuine. Or maybe just think of it in the example of a prophet: the bible asks of us to have faith in the concept of heaven (etc..) and he speaks through people who are as human as we are (prophets, j.c..), but these people have been spoken to, or have had divine intervention of some sort.. what I'm saying is 'does this mitigate the concept of having faith for them?'
@@godislove363 it says you've commented, but I can't see it. Only incompleted version in the notification if you get me
@@alexfaifailoa4180 i keep posting and they keep deleting.
Jesus is God, why would he worship himself? Jesus is God in the flesh, the perfect example of how God wanted humans to be. God understood man was incapable of understanding a spirit completely. So what better way to show what he meant for us to be as humans then to become one and be the perfect human. It is not a difficult concept, if you break it down. People overrate the flesh over the actions. Jesus did things only God could do. Jesus did things no man did before him and no matter after him did. Clear evidence that Jesus is God. Considering the Bible is the most historically reliable book in history. This is undisputed even by secular scholars. I would ask atheists to show me other works from that timeframe that show otherwise.
New American Standard Bible
They said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.”
A spiritual war fare, flesh versus.demons, true,
OMG. These are College students!
Just be a good person and live a good life....
That's alright to live in this world. Like Cliffe said, die and become a fertilizer.
But Christian life doesn't end there, because Jesus said and experience the life we will be living after death. ✝️🙏💞✌
Its ALMOST funny how university student fail to answer questions. Why?
21:28 ayo, what? Is this guy serious?
15:04
One of the problems is man believes he is a "good person". That might be true but my compared to what. Man compares himself to other man. When man does that its not difficult to say "I'm a good person". When the day of judgment comes and we are before Almighty God we will instantly realize the we are NOT good persons compared to HIM. We will instantly know that we are not GOOD enough to enter into His Kingdom. The good news is that GOD already knew we would NEVER be good enough to deserve entry into His Kingdom. That it why Jesus came down from heaven to die for our sins . Look, we all have heard that God is Love, and it is true, but God is also Just and Holy and Good. Therfore He cannot let sins go unpunished . Jesus died for our sins to SAVE us from God's judgment. That is what Jesus is our SAVIOR!. GOD loves us so much that He sacrificed Jesus ,His only begotten Son, to pay for the sins of ALL man. BUT, is we don't accept Jesus as our Savior its as if we are telling God.. I don't believe in You or Jesus and I don't care what You did for me" . Ill live life according to what I believe and I don't need You to be my SAVIOR." God will respect your decision and will step back . But know this, separation from God is HELL. Everything that we know to be good is of God. Everything. So man can't have it both ways. You can't be separated from God and still have something good. Its impossible. So make up your mind before its too late. Day of judgment is coming. Once death comes its too late.
Was this filmed in 2021?
No. This is probably OSU some years back.
John 3:16-18
[16]¶ For God so loued the world, that he gaue his only begotten Sonne: that whosoeuer beleeueth in him, should not perish, but haue euerlasting life.
[17]For God sent not his Sonne into the world to condemne the world: but that the world through him might be saued.
[18]¶ He that beleeueth on him, is not condemned: but hee that beleeueth not, is condemned already, because hee hath not beleeued in the Name of the onely begotten Sonne of God.
All the resident trolls are here! (The regulars know who they are.) They show up like clockwork, troll with religious zeal, arguing against the faith that provided the rational basis for the principles this country was founded on - and that presents no threat to their well-being or livelihood. _Me thinks they doth protest too much!_
"How long, you naive ones, will you love simplistic thinking? And how long will scoffers delight themselves in scoffing And fools hate knowledge?" (Proverbs 1:22 NASB20)
"And this is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the Light; for their deeds were evil. For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light, so that his deeds will not be exposed. (John 3:19-20 NASB20)
"Now when they heard this, they were infuriated, and they [began] gnashing their teeth at him." (Acts 7:54 NASB20)
Go read Percy Shelley and learn something new Church Chester.
@@chriswinchell1570
That's it? That's all you've got? Just a trollish comment, but nothing solid? Figures! Okay... _NEXT!_
Cliffe says:
1) God is abhorrent with how humans treat each other.
2) God is angry with Evil.
Really Cliffe...?
Ps. 47:2 "For the Lord most high is terrible; he is a great King over all the earth."
Deu. 7:21 "Thou shalt not be affrighted at them: for the Lord thy God is among you, a mighty God and terrible."
Judges 13:6 "A man of God came unto me, and his countenance was like the countenance of an angel of God, very terrible . . ."
Deu. 10:17 "For the Lord your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward."
Ex. 34:10 ". . . and all the people among which thou art shall see the work of the Lord: for it is a terrible thing that I will do with thee."
Neh. 1:5 "And said, I beseech thee, O Lord God of heaven, the great and terrible God . . ."
Neh. 4:14 "And I looked, and rose up, and said unto the nobles, and to the rulers, and to the rest of the people, Be not ye afraid of them: remember the Lord, which is great and terrible . . ."
Neh. 9:32 "Now therefore, our God, the great, the mighty, and the terrible God . . ."
Ps. 66:3 "Say unto God, how terrible art thou in thy works! Through the greatness of thy power shall thine enemies submit themselves unto thee."
Ps. 66:5 "Come and see the works of God: he is terrible in his doing toward the children of men."
Ps. 68:35 "O God, thou art terrible out of thy holy places . . ."
Ps. 99:3 "Let them praise thy great and terrible name; for it is holy."
Ps. 145:6 "And men shall speak of the might, of thy terrible acts, and I will declare thy greatness."
Jer. 20:11 "But the Lord is with me as a mighty terrible one."
Dan. 2:31 "Thou, O king, sawest, and behold a great image. This great image, whose brightness was excellent, stood before thee; and the form thereof was terrible."
Heb. 12:21 "And so terrible was the sight, that Moses said, I exceedingly fear and quake."
Isa. 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."
If you Christians want to make the claim that your god is, the End-All and Be-All of all things, then he is also Evil. Now...let's see who's the best at trying to twist these verses around in order to separate your god from evil.
The fact of the matter is: Man Is God On Earth.
Cliffe "I respect Mohammed" Knechtle
Yeah. Do you know he said that?
I don't care who you are,. Every person living has heard of Jesus,. These days. Whether you believe it or not believe that's up to you.
Not every single person, uncontacted tribes likely haven't heard anything about Christ.
thats what im saying
Morality does not come from the barbaric, mass murderer Yahweh, or his son Yeshua (Jesus) who created eternal torture in Hell.
Morality comes from discovering that mutual cooperation
improves the well being of our planet.
Why human well being over kangaroo well being?
Never actually read the Bible, have we?
@@douglasmcnay644 I did read the the Bible especially the part about God ordained rape, genocide, mass murder of the unborn, a talking serpent, schizophrenic prophets talking to their gods, human sacrifice and stories of the walking dead. Highly entertaining if you enjoy barbaric human behavior.
@@tr889 The well being of the planet, which includes kangaroos.
@@JamesRichardWiley why this planet? it was created by accident with no purpose in mind, correct?
Xtianity is based completely on circular reasoning.
Actually, Christianity is completely based on following Christ
Can this be? Did I beat Tom here?
You sure did drew, that's probably due to the time difference when these video's are uploaded, 3 hours ago here in the UK it was 02:00am .. I get up early, but not that early, lol. It's 05:00 here now and I'm up, bright eyed and bushy tailed. Always good to see a new Cliffe video ( albeit an old video due to the Covid 19 pandemic) .. Here's a question for you, Did God create viruses?, if he did, he would have done so for a reason I guess, .. maybe to ensure populations were kept at manageable levels, idk. He has his reasons right? If that's correct, maybe we're going against God's wishes in finding vaccines and antidotes for these viruses, and we should allow the virus to cull the population. For what purpose would God create things like viruses, cancer cells, deadly diseases etc? Do you think it's because of Adam and Eve's disobedience? .. it opens up all kinds of questions if thats the case. eg: why punish the offspring for something that we had nothing to do with? what kind of Judge punishes the children for the sins of the parents? Didn't God know that Eve was going to be tempted by the serpent that God placed next to the tree of knowledge?, if he knew, then surely he's more culpable than anyone? Is it ok to question God's motives and to use our rational thought to conclude he was wrong to punish not just Adam and Eve, but every single generation thereafter? That seems incredibly pernicious and evil. Where does it say in the Bible that God told Adam and Eve that if they had any children, that they were to be cursed, and all future generations would be cursed? I have all these questions swirling around my head when I think about the whole Adam and Eve story.
Or maybe, we just happen to live on a planet that wasn't designed specifically for us, and we happen to share it with millions upon millions of other living organisms, some of which are deadly to us, and with the help of our scientific knowledge which we've garnered over the years, we're able to eradicate these invisible germs to ensure a healthy life. That seems a much more logical explanation. Do we know what Jesus ( or his dad) said about germs and viruses?
It's good that we can chat about all these things on here, isn't it. I don't mean that in a facetious way, it genuinely is good to discuss these issues and hear other opinions. The Covid virus has had a major impact on the planet, the knock-on effects on the global economy is going to be massive.
@@bonnie43uk As for the deadly virus thing: God created good bacteria, and when we used our free will to sin, we fell into corruption and dragged nature with us. The fall recorded in Genesis 3 brought sin, death, destruction, disease, disorder, and general chaos into the world. And as a result the bacteria that was and is good for us can now become dangerous, as well as viruses. God allowing that process to happen through ripple effects of free will does not equal God creating deadly viruses to kill of certain people. I hope that was a coherent answer :)
@@heavnxbound So, did God know Eve was going to be tempted by the serpent? Can you see what I'm getting at Steph? God is omniscient isn't he according to what you believe. Why punish the children of the wrongdoer? As i said, it seems far more logical and coherent to me that we happen to live on a planet that was not designed for us, we share it with other living organisms which just happen to be deadly to us. If there was a world war 3, and we destroyed ourselves with nuclear weapons.. we have enough warheads to completely wipe ourselves out.. there are plenty of living organisms that would survive. Life would go on, without us. In the big scheme of things, we're not that important to the Universe.
@@heavnxbound great job, but tom/bonnie is a 10 year troll.
These people does think before they speak?
Why are animals treated the way they are? I can't believe because this stops me.
There are many reasons, the biggest is sin.
@@godislove363 So over 2 trillion animals and fish are killed a yr because of sin? Sin of humans?
@@quikwidit6967 it is more complex than that, but yes. A long time ago when man was first made by God they were given everything to eat but they need to eat they were vegans but then Judas and the sacrificial system had to come into play and people also got a Taste of me and then now today people just our human pigs they want what they want when they want it just as with everything not to put killing animals at one time killing an animal with a necessity to eat and some cultures it's still is they need you to survive because they don't understand. And the even use all of the animal, so the animals not wasted. But the majority of people just eat I eat I don't care about the culture the cology or the ecosystem of the animals and Factor killing themselves because they're doing that they don't even realize if they listened to God, then I wouldn't have to worry about it but because they fear truth because they fear obedience to what is right hey there for Eric Howard and then do what they want to do because they're selfish it goes much deeper than that but that's why Christ came as predicted in the Old Testament to cover our sins because he loves us. The sacrificial system of the animals Weatherbee the birds the Sheep excetera but a shadow of what was to be as priced being the ultimate sacrifice for us.
@@godislove363 At the end of the day the almighty god does not need to punish the living ish out of these animals in the most horrific ways by the trillions. They cry and love and have personalities just like us. It is unnecessarily brutal on a demonic level to do this for any reason, god could have made this world any way he/she wanted. I want to believe but I can not strictly for this reason alone.
@@quikwidit6967 I tried to tell you we should not. I agree with you on most of what you said. The freewill of man can not determine the Righteoudness of GOD. This in fact was proven in the OLD TESTEMANT. This is why CHRIST took the Cross for us.