@@leeman4356 The Quran doesn’t even portray Christianity correctly. Not to mention it says to “let those of the book( The injeel ) be” but also says to kill the non believers.
if you know about science and you are intellectually honest with yourself, you will see there’s way more than enough evidence of God, that’s right my friend !!
I use the example of walking in your garage and a bookshelf came together on it own. Or the ingredients came together in your kitchen and made a loaf of bread on it own. If that is absurd them how can you think inanimate objects came together and made a living being.
well, we pretty much know how life comes about via various means. What we don't know is how life originated. Although people who are religious would claim that God created life.
@@bonnie43uk There's a reason science doesn't understand how life originated. The question "how did life originate" isn't a scientific question, it's a philosophical one. Whatever is the origin of life can't be scientifically explained
@@watercave4905 Isn't abiogenesis the scientific study of how life came about, just because science hasn't gotten an answer yet, it does not follow that it never will, it may not happen in our lifetime, but we can't rule out the fact that science may one day find the answer. It's a great question isn't it 😊 I would equate it to us climbing a mountain, .. we're still scrambling on the lower slopes.
@@aureliotheredeemed7566 does it not seem rational that the first life forms on the planet were basic organisms.. single cell, that became more complex?
I am so amazingly blessed, I must sing the praises I have just been given in memory of that which is, and that which shall be, for all who love Yahushua's appearing: 31: What shall we then say to these things? If Eloah be for us, who can be against us? 32: He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, HOW SHALL HE NOT WITH HIM ALSO FREELY GIVE US ALL THINGS? 33: Who shall lay any thing to the charge of Elohim's [Father & Son] elect? It is Eloah that justifieth. 34: Who is he that condemneth? It is Messiah that DIED [The Second Deaths of all earthlings which will eternally live together with Him], yea rather, THAT IS RISEN AGAIN, Who is even at the right hand [THE OVERCOMING SIDE] of Eloah, Who also maketh intercession for us. 35: WHO SHALL separate us from the [agapé of Messiah]? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? 36: As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. 37: Nay, in all these things WE ARE MORE THAN CONQUERORS THROUGH HIM THAT LOVED US. 38: For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, 39: Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of Eloah, which is in Messiah Yahushua, our Master" (Romans 8: 31 - 39, KJV, emphasis, Name changes, and inserts in brackets, mine)! How amazing it is, to know intimately, Him Who died as us, and Whose mind indwells our Body Temples (See 1Corinthians 3: 16, 17; 1Corinthians 2: 14 - 16, KJV), for it is the indwelling mind of Messiah, the Holy Spirit, which has the control of the minds of those who are preparing for eternal life, for the sake of self-sacrificing love/agapé, for as Messiah's mind takes more and more control of the self, it is Messiah we speak with, and share Scripture with, and Whose Spirit controls thoughts, words, actions and omissions, such that we are not fooled by the hoards of those who were stolen from their First Estate in Heaven, by Haylale the devil, once the covering cherub on the left hand of the Father Eloah! The tyranny continues, as we abide in the last days, but the truth will appear and the Messiah-filled will appear, some to death from which these shall arise, and others to - the 144,000 - of Revelation 7, shall not ever see death - First Death, which is but sleep death, as Lazarus experienced - for these shall await the sleeping saints for these are to meet Yahushua in the air first, and thereafter, the 144, 000 will meet Yahushua, like Enoch and EliYah having not seen sleep death at all! All Who await Master Yahushua Messiah, with a love that shall never be separated from them, but shall grow throughout eternity, such that these can understand more and still more of that which is only known by the mind of the Creators - Father and Son - and through eternal ages, these selfless ones, shall grow in understanding of all things, and thus become enabled to grow constantly in accumulations of the ability to be evermore joyous as eternity rolls out before them! How will any of those who are of that number, be thought able to be taken away from that which THESE have been taught to preach, such that those who doubt not their words, but see the expanse emerging from their teachings, MUST allow their selfless minds to follow, as the accumulation of constantly growing delight, allows them never to doubt, but only follow in that sheer joy they identify as the leading of the Master, as aided by the Father, doubt is dispersed in complete delight and continual selflessness as they live according to the words of the Decalogue, and experience this delight which Adam and Eve once experienced, before their Fall, destined this life of inability to experience True Joy, unto blissful Delight, even while among those who are selfish and desirous of the blood of such who love them, regardless what these say or do? That is the deepest of spiritual abilities, and separates those who walk in truth - THE ONLY TRUTH - from untruth, because confounded by demonic subtleties. If one loves those who hate him, as Yahushua did while on that hideous Tree, and spoke the words proving this: "Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do" (Luke 23: 34, KJV), there is NO EVIL IN THEM, FOR THESE HAVE THE MIND OF MESSIAH YAHUSHUA!
Jason Noble: It is up to you, my friend, to prove it did not, and then, SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES which will come due to your choice all of this is foolishness! I have been a walking, talking, obedient and loving follower of the Master Yahushua Messiah now for 46 years, and for the years before my conversion, I was a sick young man, ALWAYS AWARE OF THE FACT something was missing from my life! When Messiah disclosed himself to me, I realized what had been missing, and life is now more lovely than I ever thought it would be. This, for me, is proof enough, and unless one checks it out, you will find out too late, you were WRONG! I shall not be among those described as gnashing their teeth in horror over the huge mistake they have made. And so you prove me wrong, and I will be happy you have taken the time to at least prove the beauty of the Truth of Messiah's love for you, and the Eternal Life He has purchased for you.
Just because he knows what you will do doesn’t mean he will make the choice for you. “That’s why we have free will; to make our own choices from the gift of life he gave us”.
One of the consistent problems these students have is they think they know more than they actually do. This is not a character flaw, nor is it ego or pride, it is a structural problem with University education. Microeconomics 101 and Macroeconomics 101 both theoretically explain the economy at a basic level. The problem is that when you get to Economics 201 the very first lesson is: ``Everything you were taught about in Econ 101 is wrong." These students bring up "Evolution" as a catchall because that is what they have been taught, unfortunately as they progress through their degrees they will learn that the intro survey classes they took oversimplified conclusions, glossed over contra-indicators, and generally pretended that more was known about processes and systems than is actually known. This is why first year biology students can with certainty declare "EVOLUTION!" when the Vice-chair of the Royal Society, a biologist, will declare "God!" and why Dawkins has to remind Post-Docs that biology is, in fact, random despite the obvious indications of design.
Couldn’t have said it better myself. I’m also convinced that we all know of a God. The reason people refuse to believe is because this almighty eternal God knows all, sees all, and has rules. We as humans hate it when we are told not to do something, and specifically around the age that one would be in college is when this is particularly thriving. I’m convinced their disbelief in God isn’t because they genuinely disbelieve, but rather to comfort them about the doing things God says not to. “I’m going to do drugs and have all the sex I want because I don’t believe in God.” When the truth probably is “I do believe in Gods existence but if I convince myself he doesn’t exist I’ll feel good about the bad I’ve done.” When they acknowledge the existence of God they are met with 2 choices, live life as they previously were and suffer the eternal consequences or live a life that God wants regardless of what we want. 99% of people don’t want to have that conversation because they have to not only stop doing what they love doing but must realize they are inherently bad, ask anyone they’ll say “I’m a good person!” Yet they lie, cheat, steal, and commit all types of other evil sins. After watching these videos I’ve learned a lot about the gospel and have strengthened my belief in the existence of God, but the number 1 thing I’ve learned is not to send my children to public schools and that college is a waste of money.
Just because something looks designed doesn't mean it is Can you show me something that wasn't designed so we can compare design to non-design ? “obvious design” Yeah buddy 👍 Show me something that wasn't designed so we can tell the difference. “ obviously designed” Too funny
@@z_xchhh Prove you know what a God is and wants then you can make claims about it. Prove the Christian God exists? I've read my Bible three times. Words do not prove God. Prove your claims
@@jasonnoble7814 This is a perfect example of my point, a non-expert, @Jason Noble scoffs and belittles and makes unfounded claims that both deny what Dawkins has said and do not hold up to where the science is today. Dawkins, himself, in "The Blind Watchmaker" says living things “overwhelmingly impress us with the appearance of design as if by a master watchmaker . . .” To be sure, Dawkins attributes the overwhelming appearance of design in living things to the accretion of random errors sorted through a fitness function called “natural selection.” But advances in the study of living systems in recent years (especially at the microscopic level) have made the “accretion of random errors” explanation for the overwhelming appearance of design seem at least questionable, if not downright deceptive. As our knowledge of the vast gulf separating living things from non-living matter has increased, the less satisfactory “chance dunnit” explanations have become. It was one thing to attribute the appearance of the first living organisms to chance events occurring in some “warm little pond” 100 years ago when Ernst Haeckel was suggesting a cell was a “simple globule of protoplasm.” Haeckel’s glib simplification is amusing now that we know that even the simplest living cells are marvels of staggeringly complex nano-technology. Better to admit that living things appear overwhelmingly to be designed because they are in fact designed. Dawkins and his ignorant followers deny design, however, not because the evidence compels them to deny it, but because your a priori metaphysical commitments compel you to do so. In other words, Dawkins and @Jason Noble deny the obvious because your religious beliefs require you to do so. So where actually is the science today? The Royal Society is arguably the world’s most august scientific body. In November of 2016, they held a conference to discuss the current state of evolutionary theory. In it, Austrian evolutionary theorist Gerd Müller opened the meeting by discussing several of the fundamental “explanatory deficits” of “the modern synthesis,” that is, textbook neo-Darwinian theory. According to Müller, the as yet unsolved problems include those of explaining: 1 Phenotypic complexity (the origin of eyes, ears, body plans, i.e., the anatomical and structural features of living creatures); 2 Phenotypic novelty, i.e., the origin of new forms throughout the history of life (for example, the mammalian radiation some 66 million years ago, in which the major orders of mammals, such as cetaceans, bats, carnivores, enter the fossil record, or even more dramatically, the Cambrian explosion, with most animal body plans appearing more or less without antecedents); and finally 3 Non-gradual forms or modes of transition, where you see abrupt discontinuities in the fossil record between different types. Although “the neo-Darwinian paradigm still represents the central explanatory framework of evolution, as represented by recent textbooks” it “has no theory of the generative.” In other words, the neo-Darwinian mechanism of mutation and natural selection lacks the creative power to generate the novel anatomical traits and forms of life that have arisen during the history of life. Yet, as Müller noted, neo-Darwinian theory continues to be presented to the public via textbooks as the canonical understanding of how new living forms arose - reflecting precisely the tension between the perceived, and actual, status of the theory. Hence "Yeah buddy 👍"
Nobody cares, and the funniest thing is, you have no idea if you’re reading the word of god, the word of man, or the word of the devil. But you believe it without question
And so it is and will ever be, for all that we need, is the ability to know a language, and we can in these last days, understand the truth given us by Our Creators, as Father Yahuwah Eloah Almighty, created all things, in and through His only begotten Son, before His birth upon this earth, called MICHAEL, Heaven's First Prince (Daniel 10: 13, KJV, this literally the most logical translation, for what does "one of the chief princes" mean as positions go, for there is no separation among them, and thus, Michael The First Prince, makes all the logical sense in the world, yes?). Yes, it was MICHAEL together with two of His attending angels which walked to see Abraham, visiting him to tell him a number of things (See Genesis 18: 1 and onward, KJV), including that Sarah would be with child of the 90 plus years old husband, and too, Sarah was too old to bear a child, and so SHE LAUGHED when God spoke these words unto her husband! MICHAEL also told them of what was going to happen to Sodom & Gomorrah, as He loved these two who were so incredulous although they did know Who it was Who spoke with them! This shows us in so many ways, just how great is the agapé - the selfless love - of Yahuwah Elohim, Father & Son! Sarah laughed at the Son's prophetic words concerning they're having a son as they were both much past bearing and inseminating age, and these friends of the Father and Son, did not disturb The Son, as He loved them! We are to love others, as They love us, and this will bring forth the character of the Creators in us! Awmayne
I love this guy bc he's doing a great job showing just how bad our education system has become today and accepted on college campuses where colleges today don't care at all about how dumb these kids are, but instead care more about all the money they make off the parents of every dumbass highschool kid being shipped off. I would hate to see any of these kids try to debate a Chinese middle schooler. It would be embarrassing to watch as a US patriot. Their cell phones have become smarter than they are.
Every one of these conversations goes like this: - someone tries to stump Cliffe - Cliffe rationalises everything he’s saying - the questioner can’t handle it and either gets mad or insulting I love it.
@@aureliotheredeemed7566 reaching out to a believer is a senseless undertaking. It’s like playing chess with someone who has his own set of rules and the freedom to change even those rules during the game whenever he likes.
@@aureliotheredeemed7566 you wouldn’t want to feed the Christians dwelling on a porn channel either so what’s your point? Aside from that, I feel obliged to react to stupidity and the hypocrisy and ridicule of religion can’t be exposed enough.
The logic people use is never logic at all. It's two things: conjecture and denial. They have nowhere to go with any of their questions, but to only say "How do you know?"
Ash I encourage you to evaluate the start of everything (big bang including time), irreducible complexity, historical evidence etc. Lee Strobel-case for christ, case for christianity, and case for faith. Lee strobel has really good stuff check it all out.
I had a sigh of relief when you ended the video after that girl said "mY pRoBlEm iS" lol you can tell that she was speaking with emotions and lost her temper early on. Not a good trait to have when trying to reason with anyone
Really? Say that to the little girl kept in a cellar after being raped, praying like there is no tomorrow, not for a big hammer to fall upon her assailant but for a little bit of compassion before she’s attacked a second, third time only to realize that she will not survive the encounter. And if you dare to parrot something along the line of: god has undoubtedly a very special plan for that child, I suggest you take a good long look in the mirror and realize that you’re more perverted than her attacker in your sick effort to keep your personal delusion alive.
Hi Cliffee!!! As regards the freewill aspect, I have taken sometime to reflect on this. For every situation, a human has multiple decisions he or she has the freewill to make but God ultimately already knows the end result of all decisions available before us but we still have the freewill to make any choice we want. Many times God even guides us against taking decisions but he never forces us. This analogy has appeared numerous part in the bible from Joshua asking the isrealites to choose this day who they will serve to Jesus advising us to choose the way that leads to life rather than death, he aint forcing us.
Beginning at about the age of these students, I started using the expression, mostly about myself, "Young and stupid." I didn't hate myself but I knew I had so much MORE to learn. There are several, brilliant people who have said something along the line of, "The more I learn, the more I know I don't know." Cognitive bias might be the scientific description of a "hardened heart." Hopefully, these kids will keep searching and finally learn God's truth.
I suspect that these kids will keep searching as you say billy, but the more they learn, the more they will realize that we have good answers that dont have any supernatural element to them.
@@bonnie43uk For their eternity without God, I hope not...for them. One re-occurring issue is evolution. Darwin made his theory based on the idea that all cells on the human body are interchangeable. Some scientists feel Darwin would have never published his book if he had known that. Somehow, it's not being taught how Darwin's view is based on primitive thoughts, pre-DNA and RNA, for example. Hopefully, you and I are wiser, into our 60's than these college "babies." ;)
@@bonnie43uk Why would "more they learn, the more they will realize..." occur? Is that because the more anyone learns, the more they will lean away from God existing?
"Everything that has a beginning has a cause. The universe has a beginning; therefore, it has a cause." Hit me hard I had to pause and just think about it for a second.
@@jasonnoble7814 the one qnd true God of the bible and how to do we know to praise for his amazing deeds not only for forgiving us but putting up with our dishonorable actions time and time again
These kids are the perfect example of pseudo-intellectual. Pretending to know things but their reason and logic are of a kindergarten... Pitiful Sick generation. No wonder kids today thinks that they are so privileged and entitled because of such mindset. Really painful to hear.
We are so small. We are dust and will return to dust sooner rather than later. Yet. God still loves us. How improbable. How utterly bright. So bright that you avert your gaze because you recognize your own iniquity. No one can stand up to God and be found righteous. That’s the first step for the unregenerate. To recognize their transgressions and fear the Lord for who He is. It’s a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the Living God. Fear reveals much about what a person believes in. But even more revealing is what a person believes is possible. Anything we can imagine is possible. What an amazing stumbling block! One can’t prove God isn’t real and therefore must submit that it’s possible. God is not only Almighty. He’s possible. Jesus Christ dying for our salvation is not only possible. It’s the Truth.
@@leeman4356 Allah is not the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Islam is Satan's strongest false religion creation. Jesus did not deceive people. He died on the cross and rose on the third day. Completing His mission that was planned before the foundation of the world.
Appreciate this man for taking his time discussing with people. This is one of God's way to make the seed of the Word to grow and develope! Less him should be arogance in tonality and attitude! My respect for Klife!
For some reason in most of his videos, when he asks these students to follow the evidence, check it out for themselves, think and come to a reasonable conclusion: many have such a problem with that. They just want to argue, get over emotional and spurt out anything. Lord help them and us if we do the same. Thank God the seeds have been planted and will not return to God void but will accomplish that what it was sent out to do. Praise God for his faithfulness.
yeah they are all looking for a chink in the armor to just attack at they don't know why they want to attack what he says and they dont even disagree with his points they just want him to be wrong for their own reasons.
Why would college students, potentially younger than 20, have the same speaking skills as a 50+ year old man? Why does this man spend his time debating children instead of people his own age? Because it’s easier, that’s why
@@1d4h0b1k3r I noticed you did not reply to my no no maybe you've been very busy I really don't know. I would like to mention to you however, that students that just two or three decades ago actually could stand toe-to-toe with swift because they actually we're learning things they were paying attention studying for themselves being taught appropriately by professors. Students back then were challenged to think for themselves students were challenged to research real data and not just Google or Wikipedia but they actually research and cross-referenced many materials weather be for their thesis or term papers or even just because they want to learn for themselves about truth they however kids are dumb down the lazy the lie to the tot inappropriately not to think etc etc.
@@benjaminvilla7601 I'd love to engage Cliffe in a conversation for the moral argument. There are two issues: 1 - There are MANY moral arguments. 2 - I've never seen one that is valid and sound that can lead to a God. If you're interested in discussing any of the arguments Cliffe has presented, let me know. My issues with individuals like Cliffe is that they go for people who don't understand these topics. Even if these individuals have studied the topics, they can't compare to Cliffes decades of studying them. However... I've been studying them for decades too. This is why I encourage you to ask any questions you have. I encourage you to present any arguments Cliffe has made that you find convincing. I'm not the most educated person when it comes philosophy and theology but I've talked over the moral argument hundreds of times.
I pray for all of you. God said He loves us all and He doesn't want anyone to be cast into the lake of fire.(John 3:16). I pray for all of you, that you will believe in God and accept Jesus into your hearts ! Cliffe is trying to get us to Heaven with the word of God in the Bible. I'm glad Cliffe is here to teach us. Thank you Cliffe. May God watch over all of you and keep you safe !🙏❤
God is all knowing and has conditional love for us. God is revealed to us through the Bible. Read the Bible. Read and try to understand yourself and who God is to you. From my own experience, the choice I made not because God forced me or anyone forcesd me but I put faith and trust in Jesus Christ while I am still alive and after I die. It's life changing that is why it is hard for others to believe this. No other solution is will convince me that the way to end our suffering is not through Jesus Christ. Repentance and trust in him will be the solution.
God bless you Cliff, but I encourage you to watch “Genesis: Paradise Lost” There is no evidence for Macroevolution. However, we do see Microevolution, or Speciation, take place
@@leeman4356 Can you please stop spamming irrelevant passages from the Quran? It's one thing to comment them as justifications or arguments for a belief, or even to post as a call to action, but another to just blindly punch in dozens of random passages.
I see you can't face the fact that there are no known firsthand eyewitness accounts of this Jesus or the supposed events surrounding him as depicted in the gospels. Why is that?
@@leeman3517 "The hog line, 102 mm. (4 in.) in width, placed so that the inside edge is 6.401 m. (21 ft.) from the centre of the tee line." The Rules of Curling, R1(b) iii.
@@theoskeptomai2535 I see you can't face the fact that you are blinded by your own agenda and predisposition.. If you weren't, you would have known I was referring to the logic of the Muslim girl asking why can cliffe believe 500 eyewitness, but not the eyewitness of Muhammad. But come on smart guy, tell me how you know there were no firsthand eyewitness accounts for Jesus Christ?
I’ve watched dozens of these (which I enjoy) and I’ve found that every time Cliffe’s regular apologetic replies aren’t applicable, he gets defensive. He does this when he gets stuck & then he figures raising his voice & changing the subject will distract the audience & those of us watching this TH-cam video… Obviously, what I’ve just said will be tougher for those who 100% believe in what Cliffe is saying to truly see 😁
Stating its true that an answer is false doesn't prove something can be true and false and the same time. You're asking two completely different questions. First your asking the initial question which the answer to it is false and then asking is that statement true which is a second question all together.
It’s easier than you think to prove a creator, the only minds create information ( DNA) the fine running of the world ( that shows how miraculous it is that we are here) and the irreductible complexity of the design ( that disproves Macro evolution AKA Darwinian evolution)
Where did the Beginner come from? Only that which was created or had a beginning has a cause. God is eternal and uncaused therefore does not come from anywhere.
1 Peter 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
What we have here is a mature mind debating with immature minds …they regurgitate what someone else told them, without actually using rational or common sense
Free will. Perspective of God given. He knows all freely made choices beforehand. Man, only knows one choice at a time. Question: Does God's knowledge change the free choice? Answer: maybe If God preset your choices, then yes. If God precieved your choices, then no. Second option. God knows the possibilities since no real knowledge of future events is real. Man, same as above. In this case, the knowledge you will do a thing is tentative. There is a possibility, some stronger than others, with God being able to cope with any contingency, since he preknows all the options. This allows God to know the outcome by guiding it. Answer: Your will is free & God takes his actions to correct the course to some larger end. You cannot conflate your actions with Gods. This funnels the options to an outcome, but at no time could you say you didn't choose from what is possible to arrive. You choose each end. Free will is real, full stop. The one other thing about this second option, is that God doesn't necessarily need to act at all times. He might let it playout for long periods without any significant guidance. Still, no matter how tight the reigns are held in this view, you would do as you like given the situation & isn't that free will?
The drama queen at the end really pathetic he chose to bring his overdramatic ass over to interrupt the conversation because he needed to be the center of attention. Then his DRAMA Queen has the nerve to try to blame Cliife YOU'RE IN MY way.
"And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken? When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him."--Deuteronomy 18:21-22. The TRUE prophets of the Bible were NOT called and sent to bring feel-good, ear-tickling messages to people. They were not wizards or warlocks or seers or mediums. Their job was to call the people of Israel to repent of their idolatry and turn back to Jehovah/Adonai or suffer the consequences for their rebellion.
How do these kids still not understand free will!?! Cliff, this is my argument for free will vs. God's omniscience. Very simple... At every single millisecond humans decide to do something. Those infinite amount of decisions at every millisecond, spawn an infinite amount of different paths from which we can freely choose to live our lives. WE cannot possibly fathom those infinite outcomes, and thus are free to choose each and every decision we make. God, being omniscient, can know EVERY SINGLE ONE of those infinite extrapolations. Therefore, it is completely acceptable to realize we mortals have free will to choose from an infinite amount of options at any given millisecond, and God will know exactly how each one of those infinite extrapolations will end. Hope that makes sense, keep up the good work!
How can so many of these students just can't grasp that God being outside of time and knowing tomorrow is not the same as making tomorrow happen a certain way?
Aren't these young, intellectual, immature minds curious? I think their intellect doesn't give them enough confidence to believe what they intellectually think. It's a learning curve, and Cliffe is an excellent teacher.
It’s so sad how Muhammad has deceived with what Paul warns in Galatians 1 even if it is an angel from heaven with another gospel let him be accursed and that’s what Muhammad claims that he received revelation from angel and he called it Gabriel.
Goodness the patience of Cliffe is God given.
@@leeman4356 The Quran doesn’t even portray Christianity correctly. Not to mention it says to “let those of the book( The injeel ) be” but also says to kill the non believers.
But his belief is false 🤷🏻♂️
@@Unique_Monk ok? What does that have to do with his patience?
@@GracelessEmber - non at all but for decades cliffe has argued for Christianity whilst holding a belief in contradiction to Christianity -
@@Unique_Monk which belief?
Out there in the cold and in the snow all for the sake of these young souls. God please bless Cliff and his ministry. He is a great example.
I’m an engineer and believe in God and am a Christian. Someone with a truly scientific mind can see evidence for God!
if you know about science and you are intellectually honest with yourself, you will see there’s way more than enough evidence of God, that’s right my friend !!
“I might be a bad dream you’re having now, anything’s possible - but what does the evidence point to?”
😂 love Cliffe
“You can’t get complexity by chance”
FACTS
Yes, and?
I use the example of walking in your garage and a bookshelf came together on it own. Or the ingredients came together in your kitchen and made a loaf of bread on it own. If that is absurd them how can you think inanimate objects came together and made a living being.
“Life doesn’t come about from non-life by chance”. Hard to argue that one
well, we pretty much know how life comes about via various means. What we don't know is how life originated. Although people who are religious would claim that God created life.
@@bonnie43uk There's a reason science doesn't understand how life originated. The question "how did life originate" isn't a scientific question, it's a philosophical one. Whatever is the origin of life can't be scientifically explained
@@watercave4905 Isn't abiogenesis the scientific study of how life came about, just because science hasn't gotten an answer yet, it does not follow that it never will, it may not happen in our lifetime, but we can't rule out the fact that science may one day find the answer. It's a great question isn't it 😊
I would equate it to us climbing a mountain, .. we're still scrambling on the lower slopes.
I would say impossible.
@@aureliotheredeemed7566 does it not seem rational that the first life forms on the planet were basic organisms.. single cell, that became more complex?
That young lady’s definition of a prophet can be literally anyone that’s ever lived.
Literally!!
That’s why Jesus warned us about false prophet cuz it can be anyone !
I am so amazingly blessed, I must sing the praises I have just been given in memory of that which is, and that which shall be, for all who love Yahushua's appearing: 31: What shall we then say to these things? If Eloah be for us, who can be against us? 32: He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, HOW SHALL HE NOT WITH HIM ALSO FREELY GIVE US ALL THINGS? 33: Who shall lay any thing to the charge of Elohim's [Father & Son] elect? It is Eloah that justifieth. 34: Who is he that condemneth? It is Messiah that DIED [The Second Deaths of all earthlings which will eternally live together with Him], yea rather, THAT IS RISEN AGAIN, Who is even at the right hand [THE OVERCOMING SIDE] of Eloah, Who also maketh intercession for us. 35: WHO SHALL separate us from the [agapé of Messiah]? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? 36: As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. 37: Nay, in all these things WE ARE MORE THAN CONQUERORS THROUGH HIM THAT LOVED US. 38: For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, 39: Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of Eloah, which is in Messiah Yahushua, our Master" (Romans 8: 31 - 39, KJV, emphasis, Name changes, and inserts in brackets, mine)! How amazing it is, to know intimately, Him Who died as us, and Whose mind indwells our Body Temples (See 1Corinthians 3: 16, 17; 1Corinthians 2: 14 - 16, KJV), for it is the indwelling mind of Messiah, the Holy Spirit, which has the control of the minds of those who are preparing for eternal life, for the sake of self-sacrificing love/agapé, for as Messiah's mind takes more and more control of the self, it is Messiah we speak with, and share Scripture with, and Whose Spirit controls thoughts, words, actions and omissions, such that we are not fooled by the hoards of those who were stolen from their First Estate in Heaven, by Haylale the devil, once the covering cherub on the left hand of the Father Eloah! The tyranny continues, as we abide in the last days, but the truth will appear and the Messiah-filled will appear, some to death from which these shall arise, and others to - the 144,000 - of Revelation 7, shall not ever see death - First Death, which is but sleep death, as Lazarus experienced - for these shall await the sleeping saints for these are to meet Yahushua in the air first, and thereafter, the 144, 000 will meet Yahushua, like Enoch and EliYah having not seen sleep death at all! All Who await Master Yahushua Messiah, with a love that shall never be separated from them, but shall grow throughout eternity, such that these can understand more and still more of that which is only known by the mind of the Creators - Father and Son - and through eternal ages, these selfless ones, shall grow in understanding of all things, and thus become enabled to grow constantly in accumulations of the ability to be evermore joyous as eternity rolls out before them! How will any of those who are of that number, be thought able to be taken away from that which THESE have been taught to preach, such that those who doubt not their words, but see the expanse emerging from their teachings, MUST allow their selfless minds to follow, as the accumulation of constantly growing delight, allows them never to doubt, but only follow in that sheer joy they identify as the leading of the Master, as aided by the Father, doubt is dispersed in complete delight and continual selflessness as they live according to the words of the Decalogue, and experience this delight which Adam and Eve once experienced, before their Fall, destined this life of inability to experience True Joy, unto blissful Delight, even while among those who are selfish and desirous of the blood of such who love them, regardless what these say or do? That is the deepest of spiritual abilities, and separates those who walk in truth - THE ONLY TRUTH - from untruth, because confounded by demonic subtleties. If one loves those who hate him, as Yahushua did while on that hideous Tree, and spoke the words proving this: "Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do" (Luke 23: 34, KJV), there is NO EVIL IN THEM, FOR THESE HAVE THE MIND OF MESSIAH YAHUSHUA!
@@TruthSeeker7411
Prove it
Jason Noble: It is up to you, my friend, to prove it did not, and then, SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES which will come due to your choice all of this is foolishness! I have been a walking, talking, obedient and loving follower of the Master Yahushua Messiah now for 46 years, and for the years before my conversion, I was a sick young man, ALWAYS AWARE OF THE FACT something was missing from my life! When Messiah disclosed himself to me, I realized what had been missing, and life is now more lovely than I ever thought it would be. This, for me, is proof enough, and unless one checks it out, you will find out too late, you were WRONG! I shall not be among those described as gnashing their teeth in horror over the huge mistake they have made. And so you prove me wrong, and I will be happy you have taken the time to at least prove the beauty of the Truth of Messiah's love for you, and the Eternal Life He has purchased for you.
Just because he knows what you will do doesn’t mean he will make the choice for you.
“That’s why we have free will; to make our own choices from the gift of life he gave us”.
One of the consistent problems these students have is they think they know more than they actually do. This is not a character flaw, nor is it ego or pride, it is a structural problem with University education. Microeconomics 101 and Macroeconomics 101 both theoretically explain the economy at a basic level. The problem is that when you get to Economics 201 the very first lesson is: ``Everything you were taught about in Econ 101 is wrong." These students bring up "Evolution" as a catchall because that is what they have been taught, unfortunately as they progress through their degrees they will learn that the intro survey classes they took oversimplified conclusions, glossed over contra-indicators, and generally pretended that more was known about processes and systems than is actually known. This is why first year biology students can with certainty declare "EVOLUTION!" when the Vice-chair of the Royal Society, a biologist, will declare "God!" and why Dawkins has to remind Post-Docs that biology is, in fact, random despite the obvious indications of design.
Couldn’t have said it better myself. I’m also convinced that we all know of a God. The reason people refuse to believe is because this almighty eternal God knows all, sees all, and has rules. We as humans hate it when we are told not to do something, and specifically around the age that one would be in college is when this is particularly thriving. I’m convinced their disbelief in God isn’t because they genuinely disbelieve, but rather to comfort them about the doing things God says not to. “I’m going to do drugs and have all the sex I want because I don’t believe in God.” When the truth probably is “I do believe in Gods existence but if I convince myself he doesn’t exist I’ll feel good about the bad I’ve done.” When they acknowledge the existence of God they are met with 2 choices, live life as they previously were and suffer the eternal consequences or live a life that God wants regardless of what we want. 99% of people don’t want to have that conversation because they have to not only stop doing what they love doing but must realize they are inherently bad, ask anyone they’ll say “I’m a good person!” Yet they lie, cheat, steal, and commit all types of other evil sins. After watching these videos I’ve learned a lot about the gospel and have strengthened my belief in the existence of God, but the number 1 thing I’ve learned is not to send my children to public schools and that college is a waste of money.
Just because something looks designed doesn't mean it is
Can you show me something that wasn't designed so we can compare design to non-design ?
“obvious design”
Yeah buddy 👍
Show me something that wasn't designed so we can tell the difference.
“ obviously designed”
Too funny
@@z_xchhh
Prove you know what a God is and wants then you can make claims about it.
Prove the Christian God exists?
I've read my Bible three times. Words do not prove God.
Prove your claims
@@jasonnoble7814 This is a perfect example of my point, a non-expert, @Jason Noble scoffs and belittles and makes unfounded claims that both deny what Dawkins has said and do not hold up to where the science is today.
Dawkins, himself, in "The Blind Watchmaker" says living things “overwhelmingly impress us with the appearance of design as if by a master watchmaker . . .”
To be sure, Dawkins attributes the overwhelming appearance of design in living things to the accretion of random errors sorted through a fitness function called “natural selection.” But advances in the study of living systems in recent years (especially at the microscopic level) have made the “accretion of random errors” explanation for the overwhelming appearance of design seem at least questionable, if not downright deceptive.
As our knowledge of the vast gulf separating living things from non-living matter has increased, the less satisfactory “chance dunnit” explanations have become. It was one thing to attribute the appearance of the first living organisms to chance events occurring in some “warm little pond” 100 years ago when Ernst Haeckel was suggesting a cell was a “simple globule of protoplasm.” Haeckel’s glib simplification is amusing now that we know that even the simplest living cells are marvels of staggeringly complex nano-technology.
Better to admit that living things appear overwhelmingly to be designed because they are in fact designed. Dawkins and his ignorant followers deny design, however, not because the evidence compels them to deny it, but because your a priori metaphysical commitments compel you to do so. In other words, Dawkins and @Jason Noble deny the obvious because your religious beliefs require you to do so.
So where actually is the science today?
The Royal Society is arguably the world’s most august scientific body. In November of 2016, they held a conference to discuss the current state of evolutionary theory. In it, Austrian evolutionary theorist Gerd Müller opened the meeting by discussing several of the fundamental “explanatory deficits” of “the modern synthesis,” that is, textbook neo-Darwinian theory. According to Müller, the as yet unsolved problems include those of explaining:
1 Phenotypic complexity (the origin of eyes, ears, body plans, i.e., the anatomical and structural features of living creatures);
2 Phenotypic novelty, i.e., the origin of new forms throughout the history of life (for example, the mammalian radiation some 66 million years ago, in which the major orders of mammals, such as cetaceans, bats, carnivores, enter the fossil record, or even more dramatically, the Cambrian explosion, with most animal body plans appearing more or less without antecedents); and finally
3 Non-gradual forms or modes of transition, where you see abrupt discontinuities in the fossil record between different types.
Although “the neo-Darwinian paradigm still represents the central explanatory framework of evolution, as represented by recent textbooks” it “has no theory of the generative.” In other words, the neo-Darwinian mechanism of mutation and natural selection lacks the creative power to generate the novel anatomical traits and forms of life that have arisen during the history of life. Yet, as Müller noted, neo-Darwinian theory continues to be presented to the public via textbooks as the canonical understanding of how new living forms arose - reflecting precisely the tension between the perceived, and actual, status of the theory. Hence "Yeah buddy 👍"
@@geoffrust6787 so perfectly said, thankyou, I even learned some things I did not know, so again thanks.
Now... I'm not so upset that I haven't gone to college yet. Blessed God shared his wisdom and knowledge with me. Reading his word.
AMEN, AMEN.
Nobody cares, and the funniest thing is, you have no idea if you’re reading the word of god, the word of man, or the word of the devil. But you believe it without question
@@1d4h0b1k3r I have received the Holy Spirit. You care enough to make a comment 😅
@@leeman4356 peace be with you brother 👍🏽
And so it is and will ever be, for all that we need, is the ability to know a language, and we can in these last days, understand the truth given us by Our Creators, as Father Yahuwah Eloah Almighty, created all things, in and through His only begotten Son, before His birth upon this earth, called MICHAEL, Heaven's First Prince (Daniel 10: 13, KJV, this literally the most logical translation, for what does "one of the chief princes" mean as positions go, for there is no separation among them, and thus, Michael The First Prince, makes all the logical sense in the world, yes?). Yes, it was MICHAEL together with two of His attending angels which walked to see Abraham, visiting him to tell him a number of things (See Genesis 18: 1 and onward, KJV), including that Sarah would be with child of the 90 plus years old husband, and too, Sarah was too old to bear a child, and so SHE LAUGHED when God spoke these words unto her husband! MICHAEL also told them of what was going to happen to Sodom & Gomorrah, as He loved these two who were so incredulous although they did know Who it was Who spoke with them! This shows us in so many ways, just how great is the agapé - the selfless love - of Yahuwah Elohim, Father & Son! Sarah laughed at the Son's prophetic words concerning they're having a son as they were both much past bearing and inseminating age, and these friends of the Father and Son, did not disturb The Son, as He loved them! We are to love others, as They love us, and this will bring forth the character of the Creators in us! Awmayne
I love this guy bc he's doing a great job showing just how bad our education system has become today and accepted on college campuses where colleges today don't care at all about how dumb these kids are, but instead care more about all the money they make off the parents of every dumbass highschool kid being shipped off. I would hate to see any of these kids try to debate a Chinese middle schooler. It would be embarrassing to watch as a US patriot. Their cell phones have become smarter than they are.
Bless Pastor Cliffe Knechtle For What He Does For The Gospels Sake !!! . KING JESUS CHRIST IS LORD !!! ...
Every one of these conversations goes like this:
- someone tries to stump Cliffe
- Cliffe rationalises everything he’s saying
- the questioner can’t handle it and either gets mad or insulting
I love it.
Sure, the trick is to pick the pansy’s, I’m ready for him every day of the week to counter his utter b.s.
@@walterdaems57
Have you reached out to him? he does debates on line.
@@aureliotheredeemed7566 reaching out to a believer is a senseless undertaking. It’s like playing chess with someone who has his own set of rules and the freedom to change even those rules during the game whenever he likes.
@@walterdaems57
If that is so, then may I ask what in the world are you doing on a Christian TH-cam channel chat thread ?
@@aureliotheredeemed7566 you wouldn’t want to feed the Christians dwelling on a porn channel either so what’s your point? Aside from that, I feel obliged to react to stupidity and the hypocrisy and ridicule of religion can’t be exposed enough.
The logic people use is never logic at all. It's two things: conjecture and denial. They have nowhere to go with any of their questions, but to only say "How do you know?"
Cliffe you’re the best. 👏Thank you for all that you do. 🙏🏻
Another two dreamers
For you life isn’t worth living without god but for most we don’t at all need rubbish
Ash I encourage you to evaluate the start of everything (big bang including time), irreducible complexity, historical evidence etc. Lee Strobel-case for christ, case for christianity, and case for faith. Lee strobel has really good stuff check it all out.
@@Ash1965.. why so harsh
@@Ash1965..Jesus died for you
I had a sigh of relief when you ended the video after that girl said "mY pRoBlEm iS" lol you can tell that she was speaking with emotions and lost her temper early on. Not a good trait to have when trying to reason with anyone
God bless you! In that cold weather your hands freezing.... and you have so much patience with that difficult students!
Jesus is God.
praise jesus . God give strength and help you
Really? Say that to the little girl kept in a cellar after being raped, praying like there is no tomorrow, not for a big hammer to fall upon her assailant but for a little bit of compassion before she’s attacked a second, third time only to realize that she will not survive the encounter. And if you dare to parrot something along the line of: god has undoubtedly a very special plan for that child, I suggest you take a good long look in the mirror and realize that you’re more perverted than her attacker in your sick effort to keep your personal delusion alive.
@@leeman4356 is parroting this kind of stupidities really all you can do?
JESUS WITH A CAPITAL J
@@DavidBrown-vn5fw grow up and get a life
@@walterdaems57 why don't you grow up. No matter your age you are a sad little boy.
You should put your audio into spotify podcasts, you could get so much more reach
If people have Spotify, they have TH-cam. Irrelevant.
Hi Cliffee!!! As regards the freewill aspect, I have taken sometime to reflect on this. For every situation, a human has multiple decisions he or she has the freewill to make but God ultimately already knows the end result of all decisions available before us but we still have the freewill to make any choice we want. Many times God even guides us against taking decisions but he never forces us. This analogy has appeared numerous part in the bible from Joshua asking the isrealites to choose this day who they will serve to Jesus advising us to choose the way that leads to life rather than death, he aint forcing us.
Beginning at about the age of these students, I started using the expression, mostly about myself, "Young and stupid." I didn't hate myself but I knew I had so much MORE to learn. There are several, brilliant people who have said something along the line of, "The more I learn, the more I know I don't know." Cognitive bias might be the scientific description of a "hardened heart." Hopefully, these kids will keep searching and finally learn God's truth.
I suspect that these kids will keep searching as you say billy, but the more they learn, the more they will realize that we have good answers that dont have any supernatural element to them.
Stupid people think they are really really smart.......smart people are aware of how stupid they are
@@bonnie43uk For their eternity without God, I hope not...for them. One re-occurring issue is evolution. Darwin made his theory based on the idea that all cells on the human body are interchangeable. Some scientists feel Darwin would have never published his book if he had known that. Somehow, it's not being taught how Darwin's view is based on primitive thoughts, pre-DNA and RNA, for example. Hopefully, you and I are wiser, into our 60's than these college "babies." ;)
@@bonnie43uk Why would "more they learn, the more they will realize..." occur? Is that because the more anyone learns, the more they will lean away from God existing?
Good job billy.
If this is the Next Generation..God help them quickly!
"Everything that has a beginning has a cause. The universe has a beginning; therefore, it has a cause." Hit me hard I had to pause and just think about it for a second.
Scientifically speaking that is true. Things do not just happen without some purpose for it. That is what creation means. Created for some purpose.
Christians give their God special pleading to avoid the obvious problem with that claim.
@@jasonnoble7814which is? If it's obvious why didn't you share. Man I'm bummed
You absolutely have to be well seasoned in the faith in order to speak to a hostile crowd such as this. If not, you could be tempted to lash out.
Praise the Lord
Which one and how do you know ?
@@jasonnoble7814 the one qnd true God of the bible and how to do we know to praise for his amazing deeds not only for forgiving us but putting up with our dishonorable actions time and time again
based on the ressurection of Jesus Christ which is a historical event
Cliffe is amazing. His patience is top notch.
These kids are the perfect example of pseudo-intellectual. Pretending to know things but their reason and logic are of a kindergarten... Pitiful Sick generation. No wonder kids today thinks that they are so privileged and entitled because of such mindset. Really painful to hear.
That is what they want for control they want control of the kids.
We need to pray for these kids, for God to give them wisdom to understand.
I do like how Cliffe says you can't prove anything but evidence can lead you to a logical answer.
We are so small. We are dust and will return to dust sooner rather than later. Yet. God still loves us. How improbable. How utterly bright. So bright that you avert your gaze because you recognize your own iniquity. No one can stand up to God and be found righteous.
That’s the first step for the unregenerate. To recognize their transgressions and fear the Lord for who He is. It’s a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the Living God. Fear reveals much about what a person believes in. But even more revealing is what a person believes is possible. Anything we can imagine is possible. What an amazing stumbling block! One can’t prove God isn’t real and therefore must submit that it’s possible. God is not only Almighty. He’s possible.
Jesus Christ dying for our salvation is not only possible. It’s the Truth.
Amen.
@@leeman4356 Allah is not the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Islam is Satan's strongest false religion creation. Jesus did not deceive people. He died on the cross and rose on the third day. Completing His mission that was planned before the foundation of the world.
@@leeman4356 How can you call Jesus the Messiah and the Word of God, but deny His purpose for our salvation?
I’m not upset that these kids hold different opinions or perspectives on life but the amount of unwillingness to listen is astonishing.
I've watched this particular episode many times in the past few years.
Cliff is clueless.
@@robinrobyn1714 what are you living for?
@@Josiahministries You borrowed that line from Cliff, and the answer is-' I don't know'.
@@robinrobyn1714 okay, so it seems you're clueless too.
@@Josiahministries No, it means I am honest.
As Socrates said-' I know that I don't know'.
Appreciate this man for taking his time discussing with people. This is one of God's way to make the seed of the Word to grow and develope! Less him should be arogance in tonality and attitude! My respect for Klife!
these are so good
Mmmmm cliffe video...
God bless you, Cliffe. You're the sanest person I see there.
Love this man!
Okay Cliffe it’s time to start releasing the full videos. I cannot get enough of these conversations.
GOD BLESS YOU Cliffe
Which one ?
This vid reminded me why I hated school (because of the people in); and why I loved school (what I can learn in it).
The last comeback was good.
This is the single most frustrating one 😢😢😢arghhhh What patience Cliffe has!
U dont look Crazy cliff, i see you as a Highly intellegent person. Respect, and thank you Cliff! I love ur videos
@@leeman4356 Amen brother
@@chaotictdk9410 he is a fraud, a troll.
@@godislove363 lol. No, he is speaking the truth. Thanks to Cliff ❤️
For some reason in most of his videos, when he asks these students to follow the evidence, check it out for themselves, think and come to a reasonable conclusion: many have such a problem with that. They just want to argue, get over emotional and spurt out anything. Lord help them and us if we do the same. Thank God the seeds have been planted and will not return to God void but will accomplish that what it was sent out to do. Praise God for his faithfulness.
yeah they are all looking for a chink in the armor to just attack at they don't know why they want to attack what he says and they dont even disagree with his points they just want him to be wrong for their own reasons.
So many self defeating statements from the kids here, I thought they were in school lol
If you're interested, I like discussing these topics with street preachers. What topic do you find interesting. We can discuss it here.
Why would college students, potentially younger than 20, have the same speaking skills as a 50+ year old man? Why does this man spend his time debating children instead of people his own age? Because it’s easier, that’s why
@@1d4h0b1k3r no
@@1d4h0b1k3r What do you believe and why?
@@1d4h0b1k3r I noticed you did not reply to my no no maybe you've been very busy I really don't know. I would like to mention to you however, that students that just two or three decades ago actually could stand toe-to-toe with swift because they actually we're learning things they were paying attention studying for themselves being taught appropriately by professors. Students back then were challenged to think for themselves students were challenged to research real data and not just Google or Wikipedia but they actually research and cross-referenced many materials weather be for their thesis or term papers or even just because they want to learn for themselves about truth they however kids are dumb down the lazy the lie to the tot inappropriately not to think etc etc.
God bless Cliffe. I would never have the patience to talk to some of these rude, arrogant students. 🤦♀️
Even when Cliffe is debating with the other guy the Girl still don’t stop talking, 🤦♂️
What is Cliffe's most convincing argument for accepting the claims in the Bible?
@@malirk moral argument will be one of them
@@benjaminvilla7601 Would you be interested in going over the moral argument to see if it is both valid and sound? If so, feel free to present it.
@@malirk I think Cliffe explains it better tbh I’m an Amateur compared to him
@@benjaminvilla7601 I'd love to engage Cliffe in a conversation for the moral argument. There are two issues:
1 - There are MANY moral arguments.
2 - I've never seen one that is valid and sound that can lead to a God.
If you're interested in discussing any of the arguments Cliffe has presented, let me know.
My issues with individuals like Cliffe is that they go for people who don't understand these topics. Even if these individuals have studied the topics, they can't compare to Cliffes decades of studying them.
However...
I've been studying them for decades too. This is why I encourage you to ask any questions you have. I encourage you to present any arguments Cliffe has made that you find convincing. I'm not the most educated person when it comes philosophy and theology but I've talked over the moral argument hundreds of times.
That guy believes life spawned out of a rock. And it is sooooo difficult to believe in God? Amazing. Keep doing God's work Cliffe!
27:47 never liked how people respond irrationally, when asked a simple question
Idk how you have the patience and will power to keep going back to these campuses but I respect you more then you’ll ever know! Keep it up:)
22:58 always gives me a chuckle even all these years later.
What does that guy say as he runs past? I wound it back and still can't make it out. It's nice Cliffe can laugh here, too.
@@billyholly He jokingly yells FOLLOW ME TO SCIENTOLOGY! At least that's what I hear :)
@@EmbracingTeReoMaori AH! That makes sense. It IS funny!
I pray for all of you. God said He loves us all and He doesn't want anyone to be cast into the lake of fire.(John 3:16). I pray for all of you, that you will believe in God and accept Jesus into your hearts ! Cliffe is trying to get us to Heaven with the word of God in the Bible. I'm glad Cliffe is here to teach us. Thank you Cliffe. May God watch over all of you and keep you safe !🙏❤
This group was very hard headed. Just throwing darts and not really thinking
Would you be interested in having a conversation on these topics?
These people patience to let others talk before they answer is phenomenal
Pray for these lost souls before Jesus second coming. 💔
What will happen to them ?
@@leeman4356
So beautiful Lee ❤️
Saint Paul and Jacob would enjoy this one 👍🎶
@@jasonnoble7814 everything you need to know is in the Bible.
@@rosalyn6344
How do you know that?
God is all knowing and has conditional love for us. God is revealed to us through the Bible. Read the Bible. Read and try to understand yourself and who God is to you.
From my own experience, the choice I made not because God forced me or anyone forcesd me but I put faith and trust in Jesus Christ while I am still alive and after I die. It's life changing that is why it is hard for others to believe this.
No other solution is will convince me that the way to end our suffering is not through Jesus Christ. Repentance and trust in him will be the solution.
Bless u all and may GOD bless the world 🙏🏽
Which God and how do you know?
God bless you Cliff, but I encourage you to watch “Genesis: Paradise Lost”
There is no evidence for Macroevolution. However, we do see Microevolution, or Speciation, take place
Right on.
Knowing what someone is going to do vs forcing to do something is 2 different things
6:19 lol and the girl walked away
🤣
Jesus is God.
@@sloothlothos1 Amen.
Oh my goodness. The "logic" from these youths makes my head explode. Cliff is going to have a HUGE mansion in heaven.
23:00 Legend
The young man says "nothing is absolute, ever"... is that an absolutely true statement?
why was the guy at the end so mad? relax dude. 😂
Jesus is God.
@@sloothlothos1
Prove it 🤷♂️
@@leeman4356 Can you please stop spamming irrelevant passages from the Quran? It's one thing to comment them as justifications or arguments for a belief, or even to post as a call to action, but another to just blindly punch in dozens of random passages.
That last conversation was a wowser😊
500 eyewitness is more than no eyewitness..
I see you can't face the fact that there are no known firsthand eyewitness accounts of this Jesus or the supposed events surrounding him as depicted in the gospels. Why is that?
@@leeman3517 Couldn't face to address the straightforward question I asked either, huh?
@@leeman3517 "The hog line, 102 mm. (4 in.) in width, placed so that the inside edge is 6.401 m. (21 ft.) from the centre of the tee line."
The Rules of Curling, R1(b) iii.
@@theoskeptomai2535
I see you can't face the fact that you are blinded by your own agenda and predisposition..
If you weren't, you would have known I was referring to the logic of the Muslim girl asking why can cliffe believe 500 eyewitness, but not the eyewitness of Muhammad.
But come on smart guy, tell me how you know there were no firsthand eyewitness accounts for Jesus Christ?
@@theoskeptomai2535 couldn't face to address my straight forward question?
The ripples in the sand illustration was wonderful
when folks say "I understand that" means I'm not listening because I'm right.
I’ve watched dozens of these (which I enjoy) and I’ve found that every time Cliffe’s regular apologetic replies aren’t applicable, he gets defensive. He does this when he gets stuck & then he figures raising his voice & changing the subject will distract the audience & those of us watching this TH-cam video… Obviously, what I’ve just said will be tougher for those who 100% believe in what Cliffe is saying to truly see 😁
Stating its true that an answer is false doesn't prove something can be true and false and the same time. You're asking two completely different questions. First your asking the initial question which the answer to it is false and then asking is that statement true which is a second question all together.
That woman in the hood irritates me by her stupidity. Forgive me Lord and help me have the patience of Cliffe.
You're in our way.... maybe that's the reason why people arent seeing the truth if the truth exists...
Thinking themselves wise, they have become fools.. cognitive dissonance is a monster
God blesyou Cfiffe 🙏🙏
It’s easier than you think to prove a creator, the only minds create information ( DNA) the fine running of the world ( that shows how miraculous it is that we are here) and the irreductible complexity of the design ( that disproves Macro evolution AKA Darwinian evolution)
First thing I thought. Oh it's that lady again! I hope these are some new cuts!😄
Where did the Beginner come from? Only that which was created or had a beginning has a cause. God is eternal and uncaused therefore does not come from anywhere.
1 Peter 3:15
But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
What we have here is a mature mind debating with immature minds …they regurgitate what someone else told them, without actually using rational or common sense
God bless you and your family
God gives us the chance to experience life and come to know Him
How do you know God exists and how do you know it's the Christian one?
Don't listen cliff you don't look crazy you look to me like the only person there speaking truth
Believing themselves to be wise they grew ignorant. Trading the truth of God for a lie. Having a form of godliness but denying the power thereof.
Free will.
Perspective of God given. He knows all freely made choices beforehand.
Man, only knows one choice at a time.
Question: Does God's knowledge change the free choice?
Answer: maybe
If God preset your choices, then yes. If God precieved your choices, then no.
Second option. God knows the possibilities since no real knowledge of future events is real.
Man, same as above.
In this case, the knowledge you will do a thing is tentative. There is a possibility, some stronger than others, with God being able to cope with any contingency, since he preknows all the options. This allows God to know the outcome by guiding it.
Answer: Your will is free & God takes his actions to correct the course to some larger end. You cannot conflate your actions with Gods. This funnels the options to an outcome, but at no time could you say you didn't choose from what is possible to arrive. You choose each end. Free will is real, full stop.
The one other thing about this second option, is that God doesn't necessarily need to act at all times. He might let it playout for long periods without any significant guidance. Still, no matter how tight the reigns are held in this view, you would do as you like given the situation & isn't that free will?
Love you always cliff never stop
Ecclesiastes 7:6 “6 When a fool laughs, it is like thorns crackling in a fire. It doesn't mean a thing.”
The Great Commission Thanks for sharing 🍀
Thanks Cliffe!
The drama queen at the end really pathetic he chose to bring his overdramatic ass over to interrupt the conversation because he needed to be the center of attention. Then his DRAMA Queen has the nerve to try to blame Cliife YOU'RE IN MY way.
He had to rescue the muslim girl, she was getting all her arguments torn apart and he couldnt hold back lol
I got to admit the the guy screaming “follow me to Scientology” was funny😂😂
Perhaps There Is Predestination Along Elect Nodal Continuity Points, In Similitude To The Latticework Of A Crystal.
Proof that just bc you're in college doesnt mean you're even somewhat smart! ....I'm nothing without Jesus Christ and Gods grace and mercy!
"And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken? When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him."--Deuteronomy 18:21-22. The TRUE prophets of the Bible were NOT called and sent to bring feel-good, ear-tickling messages to people. They were not wizards or warlocks or seers or mediums. Their job was to call the people of Israel to repent of their idolatry and turn back to Jehovah/Adonai or suffer the consequences for their rebellion.
This one was a bit hard to hear. It got loud when Cliff talked but when the other people were talking it was a bit difficult.
Legend has it that the black guy at minute 10:50 is still trying to call Cliffs attention and being totally ignored 😂
The fear of god is the being of wisdom
How do these kids still not understand free will!?! Cliff, this is my argument for free will vs. God's omniscience. Very simple...
At every single millisecond humans decide to do something. Those infinite amount of decisions at every millisecond, spawn an infinite amount of different paths from which we can freely choose to live our lives. WE cannot possibly fathom those infinite outcomes, and thus are free to choose each and every decision we make. God, being omniscient, can know EVERY SINGLE ONE of those infinite extrapolations. Therefore, it is completely acceptable to realize we mortals have free will to choose from an infinite amount of options at any given millisecond, and God will know exactly how each one of those infinite extrapolations will end. Hope that makes sense, keep up the good work!
Good job
How can so many of these students just can't grasp that God being outside of time and knowing tomorrow is not the same as making tomorrow happen a certain way?
Aren't these young, intellectual, immature minds curious? I think their intellect doesn't give them enough confidence to believe what they intellectually think. It's a learning curve, and Cliffe is an excellent teacher.
I love these videos 🙏🙏
Whoever is reading this... ✝️ God knows your heart 💓 He knows your pain, hurt and struggles 💔. He will RESTORE YOU Just don’t give up ⚔️🛡😇👑🙏🔥😊
Not gonna lie, that Scientology guy really helped lighten up the mood to a very tense situation lol (even if its only for a little bit).
It’s so sad how Muhammad has deceived with what Paul warns in Galatians 1 even if it is an angel from heaven with another gospel let him be accursed and that’s what Muhammad claims that he received revelation from angel and he called it Gabriel.