I feel like most card games are like “we need a way to permanently remove a card from the game” and then they are like “wouldn’t it be cool to get banished cards back and make it another resource”. It’s like they make a game mechanic and later break the point of that mechanic.
Oh, next they'll do something like rip this card apart after using and 5 years later there will be another effect that says glue it together and people will abuse the shit out of it if it means a +1 card advantage lol.
Fortunately, Magic never did that. There are only two cards that can unconditionally pull face-up cards out of exile, and both of them are one-time effects that put a single card in the graveyard (Pull from Eternity) or back into the deck (Riftsweeper). There are a large number of cards that exile something temporarily and then return it, and there are a few Eldrazi that can only return cards your opponent has in exile, but for most purposes, if a card gets exiled without a return clause, it's never coming back. This is one of the core concepts that, if messed with, will irreparably break the game's balance.
It all just depends on when the discard is mentioned, in the activation cost, or the card effect. Dark World Dealings Both players draw a card from their deck, and then discard a card from their hand. This is part of the cards effect. Magical stone excavation Discard 2 cards and then target one spell card in your graveyard; add it to your hand. The dis card here is part of the cost. The cards effect adds a spell card from your graveyard, and as a cost you have to discard 2 cards, which you have to do to even play the card. You cannot activate This card if you cannot discard the cards first.
a cost is literally structured like that: "do x; do y", in which, the cost is do x, and the effect is do y. any structure that does not gives you ";", is an entire effect.
Man can you make more rule videos? It took me a long time to figure out the whole simultaneous effects go on chain thing. I just didn't know what I was looking for so finding that took forever. I personally don't understand what can and can't activate during the damage Step. I read that only monsters can, unless a card says it can. I also don't know when the damage Step ends. Is it after destruction? Or after damage? If you firmly understand the rules you could make more videos explaining the tricky rulings
Damage Step ends [after] destruction. Here's how it usually goes: Attack Declaration Damage Step [>Damage Calculation] [>Monster Gets Destroyed] [End of Damage Step] The indents show what happens in the damage step. Since I was corrected (and actually got this whole thing hilariously wrong myself), I'll link you to the wikia regarding the Damage Step. yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Damage_Step I would assume that they have pages for each step, so click around if you have more questions. Of course, I agree that dzeef should totally make more ruling videos.
@@gravitygas3891 no, the damage steps ends after the destruction of the monster. That's why you (for example) can't chain call to the grave to a monster that was destroyed by battle and has an effect like "if this card is destroyed by battle and sent to the GY, do xy" because it's still the damage step.
Next Lesson: Which cards and effects can be activate during the Damage Step and Damage Calculation and which cards cannot be activated during the Damage Step and Calculation and why or why not.
well it's simple , Pot of Desires is a +1 . It lets you draw 2 cards for banishing 10 cards from your deck face down. now , will anyone please explain what does Pot of Greed do?
Imagine if Yu-Gi-Oh! had a realistic Anime. First turn: I summon this monster By the effect of this monster I can special summon this monster By the effect of this monster I can send to the graveyard a monster from my deck By the effect of the monster I sent to the graveyard, I can special summon it if it's sent to the graveyard by the effect of a card I XYZ summon this monster that requires 3 level 4 monsters I discard an XYZ material to search for a spell card in my deck, I pick Scapegoat I use Scapegoat I use the 4 Scapegoat-tokens for a Link summon of Firewall Dragon I special summon this level 4 monster that can be special summoned only if there are a linked monster and also an XYZ monster on the field I special summon this tuner level 3 monster that can be special summoned if there were more than 4 special summons this turn. I use the last 2 monsters I summoned to Synchro Summon this level 7 monster that negate the activation of opponent cards, this include spells, traps and monsters. Also I set a card. Your turn. End of Season 1 Season 2 start "In the previous season: Season 1 recap" And now: I can't activate traps, spells and monsters effect, so I set this monster. Your turn. I activate my trap that allow me to destroy your set monsters if there are a Synchro, an XYZ and a Linked monster on my field, also it allows me to summon a Pendulum monster from my deck for each monster destroyed by this effect, I special summon this pendulum monster that allow me to search for a spell card in my deck, I use this spell that give me an istant win if there are a Link, a Synchro, an XYZ and a Pendulum Monster on the field. End of Season 2 No one wants to play Yu-Gi-Oh! in the whole world. End of YuGi-Oh!
Also, you don't _discard_ XYZ material, you _detach_ it lol. And besides, though I'm not a huge VRAINS fan, the combos Yusaku does with the Cyberse cards are pretty much exactly like what you're describing, though with mostly just Link Summoning obviously.
Love how some ppl are nitpicking about mechanics while his point was to criticize how one player is playing the game and doing all the cool stuff while the other is just sitting duck waiting to get destroyed by an unbrekable board. I don't play the game anymore but seems to me power creep got so strong that the second player is forced to play handtraps to disrupt some of his oponnents plays or otherwise he will lose almost 100% of the time. I fully agree an anime based on modern Yu-Gi-Oh! gameplay would not be fun to watch.
Konami: Introducing "Giant Rex" Me: ...That's a Spino though... Konami: Listen do you wanna play Dinos or not? Me: I do but can I at least have the name be accurate? -my initial thoughts on first seeing Giant Rex-
Man tf kind of deck you running pot in then? PoD is meant for short burst, quick wins, decks. If you PoD to try to play another 10+ turns you're using the card I effectively, nullifying it's potential making it unwarranted because you could of played much better sustaining cards at that point.
@@tokiteishi5437 but i already run 4 copies of Jar of greed and i don't know how Pot of greed works!? Reckless greed is a neg 1, so i don't use that either
Oh oof where do I begin? PoD is not -9, it is a +2. Your deck is not considered a resource during the Duel. Yes you banish 9 from your deck fd, and yes this can break combos, that;s why most decks that use it aren't reliant on certain combo cards. Reckless greed has no cost. The only penalty is skipping your next draw phase, which is the second card you got from the trap. Its a +1, basically putting you through two Draw Phases without actually entering that phase twice. And 99% of decks can survive this because they can still search and draw using other effects, and unless your opponent yata-locks you the +1 can give you advantage
Lightforce Sword is still number one when it comes to banish face-down in my mind because it's also a bit iconic in anime when Yugi activated against rare hunter using Exodia deck and Kaiba to seal temporary Obelisk.
No joke, but I think that was what removing from play was intended for. When cards are removed from play, you might as well put them in your pocket because there shouldn't be that many ways to interact with them, much less use them.
Since you're carrying a duel disk I don't know what else are you supposed to do with them. Those were invented before banishing card was even a thing so Pegasus got the last laugh
thank you for teaching me this. I was wondering the interactions with pot of desires, and face down banished cards. You helped me become a better local judge
I liked this video a lot! I know all the important stuff to play the game, but there a ton of little stuff (ex: chains and activation timing) that I'm confused about, and would love to see more videos like this
Quick Correction: Banishing face-down from Evenly Matched is considered the player banishing their OWN face-down cards. NOT the opponent banishing your cards. Because it says "Make your opponent"
Hoakisol not necessarily, as they may have set cards and so they may decide to give those but your opponent can’t see them still but they keep them instead and give face up card. usually when they say “make your opponent” is because your opponent decides which cards go or not but usually you decide if it done by your effort
The history of YGO's banish and MTG's exile is actually kinda similar. The term "exile" wasn't introduced until 2009, before that it was "remove from game" and the zone was called "removed-from-game zone". They felt that since they created more and more cards that interacted with the zone or only temporarily put cards there, that exile was a much more fitting and also shorter term. MTG even has facedown exile, though in that case neither player is allowed to look at them unless the exiling card specifically says you can. Maybe that's where the confusion comes from?
2 things I'd like to add: 1st - EVEN IF the monsters are banished from the Extra Deck by the effect of Eater of Millions, and both players know they are monsters, a random person who came over and looked at the Duel would NOT KNOW they are monsters! That's how you should think of the game rules - consider if you took a screenshot of the board and asked someone what happened, they could take a guess but they wouldn't know for certain - what if instead of banishing 15 with Eater of Millions, you banished the minimum (5) then played Pot of Desires? Or what if you used Psy-Framelord Omega's effect 15 times then played Pot of Desires? There's no way of knowing for certain. 2nd - This more applies to banished cards in general, but is especially important for face-down ones because of how hard they can be to get back into play. If a card states "return it to the GY" about a banished card, then it doesn't HAVE to have been banished from the GY! It saying "return" is basically the game saying "put it back into a zone that ordinary cards can interact with" since clearly the card came from your Deck if you banished it with Desires, or the field if you chose to banish it off your opponent's Evenly Matched, or from your hand if your opponent used Trickstar Reincarnation. If cards did need to come from the GY to be returned there then a LOT of cards would be really bad but that's not how it works. This isn't something I thought needed explaining but people have proven me wrong on that one three times now so I thought it should be said
If I have a deck that really relies on a certain card (think Heroes and Mask Change), banishing more than one copy of that card is pretty rough. That's why you generally try to play Pot of Desires in a deck where you play 3 of your combo pieces.
OR Any card that's Banish is Banish Face-Down. Also if you want to get back cards from BFD, just use Necro Face. It brings back both players Banish cards and face down cards. Also if it's destroyed by battle both players must Banish the top 5 cards from their deck. (Face-up of course) • There is almost no other cards to get back Banish Face-down cards.
I love to use Desires with Primal Seed. It requires some set-up, but if you have 2 of them and a card that banishes all cards send to the GY then desires becomes a +11 or better. Edit: forgot to mention that you need BLS on the field (the one that most decks can run)
This was interesting. In Magic: the Gathering, face-down exile cards cannot be looked at unless the card's text says you can. The fact that in Yu-Gi-Oh! the owner can look at their face-down cards at any time no matter the reason is really different.
Thank you for making these kind of videos explaining the rules and metagame of Yugioh. I haven't played this game in over 10 years and probably can never play the TCG itself due to living in a rural area, but these kind of videos are neat to watch since Yugioh has more characteristics about it I find desirable than other card games don't have and the more you describe it the more appealing it sounds.
It IS really simple. If a card specifies more than just "banished cards", then face-down banished can't be used. Like when a card say's "face down spell and trap cards" you can't just target a face down monster.
So I was playing my egyptian god deck at my locals, and I activated Ra's effect that lets you wipe all your opponent's cards off the table, and they kicked me out of the venue. It almost feels like no one else knows what Ra does. Could you make a video on that next?
Macro Cosmo/Different dimension was a structure deck released that worked with removing from play mechanics. I loved that deck, it made imperial Iron Wall to become a thing
now and then ..... it's a huge diffirence i remember when i first play yugioh ......... a deck full with 1900 atk monster and a bunch of vanillas beat-sticks WITHOUT KNOWING THE RULES ... XD
Necroface and Elemental Hero Electrum are the two main cards that I can think of that will return facedown banished cards. I think Soul Release has an even cooler text that they really should make a new effect. "Removed from the current Duel" would mean that it is impossible to return those cards to play in any form and that they have no effect on the duel in any way.
I don't play Yu-Gi-Oh (had cards when I was much younger but never really played (didn't even really know how), played one of the GBA games a year or two ago, and watched the anime (Yugi seasons only) around when I played that GBA game) yet I enjoy watching your videos, dzeeff. You're just really interesting to listen to with your in-depth explanations of things, I guess :P Also, Spheal = the best
I already knew the ruling but it’s always great to see how you explain things so this was yet another 10/10 enjoyable video. I commented on another video of yours but just in case I missed the window where you look at comments, I have an idea for you, where you could take a look at cards that were popular but not that great, Like the Egyptian Gods, and explain why they are too slow/ineffective nowadays and how they could be redone to be more competitive
I am sure many people would like to see a Ruling discussion on Simultaneous Effects Go On Chain (SECOG) and how that interaction works. I know I would watch that video, would be a great tool. Thanks Doug!
That's a plus 1 not a neg 9. Card advantage is based on the number of cards you have in youre hand so with desires you use 1 card ( desires it self) to draw 2 and that's a plus 1
I got a game loss because a judge saw me check my own face down banished cards before desires existed. He said since I didn't banish them, I could not check. Another important rule. APPEAL APPEAL APPEAL the judge ruling. Let the head judge tell you the ruling. There are TONS of judges that are misinformed and they will ruin your day. Don't be like me.
Here's a weird one. If you correctly summon BLS Envoy and its banished facedown then returned to the GY you can still summon it using cards like Monster Reborn. Normally cards lose their "must first be summoned by" if they leave Public Knowledge but there is a ruling that specifically says its fine with facedown banished.
Re: Tyranno Infinity effect: I found that out the hard way. Not with the specific card you listed, but with the Helios trinity. I felt such a fool afterwards lol.
Speaking of PSCT making unwieldy text into single words: Excavate. That one word stands in for "Reveal [cards] from the top of your deck", a whole seven or eight words. Imagine Naturia with the old text. Disgusting.
mtg has a similar keyword, scry. There is a card that lets you "Scry 1, draw a card." The full text (based on the wiki) would be "look at 2 cards from the top of your library and put them on the bottom of the library or back on top in any order. Draw a card."
@@samuelalphabet5360 Yeah, scry was a mess before it was reduced. Also, on less crowded cards, they do use reminder text _(Text in parentheses that tells you what you already know)_ to explain it to new players.
Best advice I can give when deck building is make sure every card in your hand can be used in one turn, what I normally do is combo cards then add in a bunch of draw cards to make my deck more consistent
Testing out my own custom archetype that banishes cards face-down on duelingbook; ; more people need to see this video. I constantly run into situations where people try to target face-down banished cards by name/type/attribute or attempt to activate "leave the field" effects when a monster is banished face-down... hard to try to balance something when people cant understand easy rules
Pot of Desires then NS necroface then you got a big plus as now pot of Desires turns into pot of greed since you recovered your face down banished cards along with getting the chance to start your deck combo resources
Talk about the difference between negating and destroy (mystical space typhoon). talk about how people used to use MST on the fire fist formation cards so they could stop the effect even though it doesnt negate those effects
I built my thunder dragon deck and saw people put pot of desires in. I wondered doesn't that ruin the point of the deck getting the effects? Then I thought of thunderhawk, but this video answered that line of logic. Thank you dzeef
So I don't play Yu-Gi-Oh, haven't for a decade, and when I did I only ever casually played the apparently-awful structure decks; I acknowledge that I don't have much background knowledge here. That being said, I've watched several of your videos over the last few weeks and I feel like I've gotten a basic sense of the mechanics of competitive play, and Pot of Desires is a card I can't seem to understand. What sort of strategy can benefit from losing a quarter of the deck at random, in a way that can't be retrieved, even for a +1 advantage? What sort of list can reliably draw two cards that can offset losing that much of its pool of cards? I'm not arguing against it, I just was hoping someone could explain a situation that would be good in. Thanks in advance!
Speaking as someone who has about as much personal experience as you do: Pot of Desires is useful mainly because it puts an extra card in your hand, giving you more options. The 10 cards that got banished don’t mean anything if they’re not in your hand or graveyard, so the cost doesn’t usually mean anything aside from potentially stopping you from using a searching for that card (in which case, run multiple copies to reduce the chance of that breaking the combo)
Devil’s Playmate (Counter Trap) When this card is activated apply one of these effects then banish this card face down- - Pay half your life points; banish one card on the field faced down. -If a spell/trap card or monster effect is activated, pay half your life points; negate the activation and and if you do, banish it faced down - Once per duel if “Devil’s Playmate” is in the banish zone face down you can pay half your life points; return one other banished card to your hand. You can pay half your life points to activate this card from the hand. If you’ve paid life points as a cost more than once the same turn this card was activated, during the End Phase of that turn you lose the duel.
Hey man been a fan for a little while now and I'm really happy to see how you've grown and excited about the future of the channel. Now as someone who's really annoyed by the Yugioh community right now for often complaining about banning firewall dragon, I think it's important to ask "why doesn't anyone talk about Konami maybe breaking new ground and introducing Yu-Gi-Oh's first twice or thrice per turn clause?"
I've been playing banish decks for a little over a year and I've been really interested in facedown banished cards. So far I only know 3 cards in yugioh that can target facedown banished cards (omega, primal seed, and paleozoic leanchoilia) One thing that I really wanted to experiment with is what happens when you use these cards on face down extra deck monsters and put them in the gy (using paleozoic leanchoilia to target a banished monster that has an effect when its sent to the gy) sadly due to wording of leanchoilia and omega, it doesn't say "send the banished card to the gy" it says "return that banished card to the gy" which is because I had some really cool eater of millions + omega/leanchoilia plays in mind with cards like N'tss and others. Interesting video though
This was me with Pot of Desires. I didn't realize that you couldn't bring those cards back with Burial From a Different Dimension. I still think it's a strange ruling but it is what it is :)
I honestly tought that face down banished cards would be hidden from both players If you can actually know what cards you banished this already makes them a MUCH better thing, since the deck thinning that something like Pot of Desires does to your deck sudenlly makes sense, even with a drawback as large as that Great video
Probably another reason why they changed the wording of "remove from play" to "banish", aside from being wordy, was that it was simply, functionally incorrect after a time. At the time the term was first introduced, when a card was "Removed from play", it REALLY WAS gone for the rest of the duel, it was functionally non-existent, because there were no cards that interacted with cards that had been removed from play. But, as time went on, as these things always progress, cards were introduced that COULD interact with cards that had been removed from play, which meant that realistically, they weren't outside the boundaries of regular play at all. So, changing it to a less definitive wording just made sense. Also, I think that the reason face-down banishment exists, or at least part of it, was because so many powerful cards could easily interact with banished cards, to the point that there were some potentially broken interactions that could happen, which put something of a limit of the kinds of cards that could be printed. So, from a balance perspective, they needed a way to heavily limit banish interactions, while still keeping it as a normal gameplay mechanic. So, face-down banishment now exists as a way to limit the ways in which you can interact with banished cards (basically, any effect that specifies card properties in any capacity cannot be used on face-down banished cards, whereas generic banish interactions still work fine). Face-down banishment is now the closest thing we have to true "removed from play" status, since they are the hardest cards in the game to interact with. The trade off is, the lack of public knowledge means they're protected from your opponent's meddling as well.
Ghostrick skeleton also interacts with face down banishing "flipped banish face down the same number of cards from the top of the opponents deck as the number of ghostrick monster you control"
This isn't regarding rulings much but what about a video going over cards or monsters that were using future mechanics at least in some form, Like how in the anime Gate Guardian worked as a sort of awkward xyz monster being able to detach its components to prevent it being destroyed, Just things like that with cards that were ahead of their time if you will.
Very helpful video. Thank you. One more question, since the face down banished are not public knowledges I’m guessing that mean I cannot use pot of acquisitiveness. Since I cannot specify 3 monster cards
Question: Burial from different Dimension -> Won't work for opponents face-down banished cards! BUT, work for your face-down banished cards, as you can look into them?
I think these videos are really good because everyone van use them. All Yugioh players need to know this and if they know already, they have confirmation. I hope to see more in the future on topics like Damage Step.
I wonder what the next "permanently removed" area will be. It was graveyard, then banished(or remove from play), now banished faced down. What's next "target one card and annihilate it from the duel". We gotta keep making places for cards to go. I eagerly await for Banish face-down to just be another resource. Hell, there's already a few.
So... just want to make sure I get this... the card owner can look at the face down banished cards, and you can target the cards to be put back in if it meets public knowledge criteria associated with the face down card. So my question would be: if there is a card that is a generic "put a card from banish zone into owners graveyard", would you be able to select a face down banished card from your opponent without being able to see which cards you are selecting? (Effectively, at random)
I'm an OG YGO player but haven't really touched the game since 2013. I watched some of your videos and TH-cam just continued to recommend your videos to me. So it's the third night in a row I'm lying in bed with my phone in hand watching your stuff. I have one request. Most of the time you're just showing one card at a time, maybe consider rendering your video in 1080x1920 (vertical). On the desktop it'll be turned, but on mobile, like for me right now it'd make the cards a lot easier to look at.
Greetings Dzeff, i was wondering if you would consider making a video explaining the most obnoxious situation i have ever faced in yugioh , "missing the timing".
The most important lesson to have with Pot of Desires to learn is first, the cards you banish do not matter. The second lesson is to learn when you should and shouldn't play desires.
inb4 somebody says you can bypass Desires with Diamond Dude. Yes, that is a thing you can do, but you can also use Cards of Consonance, White Elephant's Gift, Destiny Draw, etc with Diamond Dude's effect instead. Not helping that much xD
I’d love to see more videos like this that cover rulings that don’t come up often in games and/ or aren’t explained particularly well in the rule book. Maybe a Token episode next? You can get some pretty interesting scenarios when tokens are involved. Like, I’m pretty sure Tokens can’t be face down with the odd exception of Magical Hats? Cards just being face down in general can also have quirks like how chaining Book of Moon to a monster effect activation can “pseudo-negate” that effect because the monster effect is nowhere in play. But I think I’ve also heard that Facedown monsters can be used for contact fusions which makes no sense to me at all because face down cards have no properties beyond the zone that they’re in. (I could be wrong about these, I’m not a judge). Nice work. 👍
Interesting video. Then, I understand from what you said that cards that have banishing effects are simply useless when they are banished face-down in terms of their effect activation. My question is: a card like D.D. Scout Plane is affected by these condition, too? And why not to think that cards that have banishing effects could have activated their effects and establish a rule that make cards being verified for any doubt?
@dzeef So if your monster has a banishing effect instead of sending your creature to the GY, does that mean flip effects don't happen if they were attacked and banished. I thought that if I had a Man-Eater Bug and he got attacked facedown it'll be destroyed, but I still get the card effect correct after the damage caculation phase?
Your point about splashing cards to combo with desires you forgot that eater of millions is a good card to play with desires. Both cards are good on their own but also can work together. However eater of millions is better suited to just run into problem cards.
Query: fusion tends to work with cards that are not public knowledge (in hand or face-down on field). Would a fusion card such as cyberload fusion be able to use face down Banished monsters as material?
I feel like most card games are like “we need a way to permanently remove a card from the game” and then they are like “wouldn’t it be cool to get banished cards back and make it another resource”. It’s like they make a game mechanic and later break the point of that mechanic.
I remember when cards going into the graveyard were a big deal, nowadays it's used as a second hand, and with some decks the banish zone is this too.
Oh, next they'll do something like rip this card apart after using and 5 years later there will be another effect that says glue it together and people will abuse the shit out of it if it means a +1 card advantage lol.
@@kotzpenner Skull servants ha.
Fortunately, Magic never did that. There are only two cards that can unconditionally pull face-up cards out of exile, and both of them are one-time effects that put a single card in the graveyard (Pull from Eternity) or back into the deck (Riftsweeper).
There are a large number of cards that exile something temporarily and then return it, and there are a few Eldrazi that can only return cards your opponent has in exile, but for most purposes, if a card gets exiled without a return clause, it's never coming back. This is one of the core concepts that, if messed with, will irreparably break the game's balance.
yugioh is a game of movement
Next lesson on Discarding- Darkworlds,Fabled and Danger! Ect. Which trigger effects which dont
Yes please, i still don't understand the "discard as effect, not cost" thing
Easy if you play Danger it doesn't matter their effects trigger either way
Do you mean you want rulings on "if" and "when"? Or do you want rulings on cost vs discard?
It all just depends on when the discard is mentioned, in the activation cost, or the card effect.
Dark World Dealings
Both players draw a card from their deck, and then discard a card from their hand.
This is part of the cards effect.
Magical stone excavation
Discard 2 cards and then target one spell card in your graveyard; add it to your hand.
The dis card here is part of the cost. The cards effect adds a spell card from your graveyard, and as a cost you have to discard 2 cards, which you have to do to even play the card. You cannot activate This card if you cannot discard the cards first.
a cost is literally structured like that: "do x; do y", in which, the cost is do x, and the effect is do y. any structure that does not gives you ";", is an entire effect.
The most prevalent ruling is that pot of desires banishing 10 cards face down is a minus 9. Just ask any casual player!
Epic Ness it’s not a minus 9
@@jjjjrrrr4353 swoosh
unless your playing fucking gren maju and its a +3
Well mine is a +100 I dont banish any of my cards.
necroface reshuffles all removed from play cards back into the deck as a recovery play so its really not in gren maju lol
Pot of avarice is just thanos jar
Cool Penguin Thanos car? Thanos car.
Pot of avarice is basically a better pot of greed for extra deck heavy decks like link spam..
THANOS JAR
It's all for the better good...
"Give me two cards"
"But sire your combo pieces"
Man can you make more rule videos? It took me a long time to figure out the whole simultaneous effects go on chain thing. I just didn't know what I was looking for so finding that took forever. I personally don't understand what can and can't activate during the damage Step. I read that only monsters can, unless a card says it can. I also don't know when the damage Step ends. Is it after destruction? Or after damage? If you firmly understand the rules you could make more videos explaining the tricky rulings
Damage Step ends [after] destruction. Here's how it usually goes:
Attack Declaration
Damage Step
[>Damage Calculation]
[>Monster Gets Destroyed]
[End of Damage Step]
The indents show what happens in the damage step.
Since I was corrected (and actually got this whole thing hilariously wrong myself), I'll link you to the wikia regarding the Damage Step.
yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Damage_Step
I would assume that they have pages for each step, so click around if you have more questions.
Of course, I agree that dzeef should totally make more ruling videos.
@@gravitygas3891 no, the damage steps ends after the destruction of the monster.
That's why you (for example) can't chain call to the grave to a monster that was destroyed by battle and has an effect like "if this card is destroyed by battle and sent to the GY, do xy" because it's still the damage step.
DanideRais Ah, you're right; I'll fix that in my main comment.
yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Damage_Step A more obvious comment for people with a similar question.
Next Lesson: Which cards and effects can be activate during the Damage Step and Damage Calculation and which cards cannot be activated during the Damage Step and Calculation and why or why not.
It is usually described when you can use it
If people doesn’t know what Pot of Greed does, what makes you think they know what Pot of Desires does?
well it's simple , Pot of Desires is a +1 . It lets you draw 2 cards for banishing 10 cards from your deck face down.
now , will anyone please explain what does Pot of Greed do?
Densai Moua pot of desires is simple, banish 10 cards from the top of your deck and draw 2 cards
everyone knowd what pot of desires does but pot of greed is a mystery
draw 2 cards, the end, is THAT too hard?
lol
way wrong, if I may dare say, draw 2 cards, THE END
Imagine if Yu-Gi-Oh! had a realistic Anime.
First turn:
I summon this monster
By the effect of this monster I can special summon this monster
By the effect of this monster I can send to the graveyard a monster from my deck
By the effect of the monster I sent to the graveyard, I can special summon it if it's sent to the graveyard by the effect of a card
I XYZ summon this monster that requires 3 level 4 monsters
I discard an XYZ material to search for a spell card in my deck, I pick Scapegoat
I use Scapegoat
I use the 4 Scapegoat-tokens for a Link summon of Firewall Dragon
I special summon this level 4 monster that can be special summoned only if there are a linked monster and also an XYZ monster on the field
I special summon this tuner level 3 monster that can be special summoned if there were more than 4 special summons this turn.
I use the last 2 monsters I summoned to Synchro Summon this level 7 monster that negate the activation of opponent cards, this include spells, traps and monsters.
Also I set a card.
Your turn.
End of Season 1
Season 2 start
"In the previous season:
Season 1 recap"
And now:
I can't activate traps, spells and monsters effect, so I set this monster.
Your turn.
I activate my trap that allow me to destroy your set monsters if there are a Synchro, an XYZ and a Linked monster on my field, also it allows me to summon a Pendulum monster from my deck for each monster destroyed by this effect, I special summon this pendulum monster that allow me to search for a spell card in my deck, I use this spell that give me an istant win if there are a Link, a Synchro, an XYZ and a Pendulum Monster on the field.
End of Season 2
No one wants to play Yu-Gi-Oh! in the whole world.
End of YuGi-Oh!
you cant active scapegoat i you summoned monsters
And you can't link summon if you xyz summoned
Also, you don't _discard_ XYZ material, you _detach_ it lol. And besides, though I'm not a huge VRAINS fan, the combos Yusaku does with the Cyberse cards are pretty much exactly like what you're describing, though with mostly just Link Summoning obviously.
Love how some ppl are nitpicking about mechanics while his point was to criticize how one player is playing the game and doing all the cool stuff while the other is just sitting duck waiting to get destroyed by an unbrekable board.
I don't play the game anymore but seems to me power creep got so strong that the second player is forced to play handtraps to disrupt some of his oponnents plays or otherwise he will lose almost 100% of the time.
I fully agree an anime based on modern Yu-Gi-Oh! gameplay would not be fun to watch.
@@hellcopterts8895 his point fall apart because only boomer think of that
Konami: Introducing "Giant Rex"
Me: ...That's a Spino though...
Konami: Listen do you wanna play Dinos or not?
Me: I do but can I at least have the name be accurate?
-my initial thoughts on first seeing Giant Rex-
If we're talking about accuracy, they would also need feathers
Who would even wanna play PoD?
Not me! A neg 9 is an instant loss against my little cousin's Needle Worm/Book of Eclipse combos!
man, im in love with the Lightsworn and played against a Deck-Out once. Guess who didnt win
Man tf kind of deck you running pot in then? PoD is meant for short burst, quick wins, decks. If you PoD to try to play another 10+ turns you're using the card I effectively, nullifying it's potential making it unwarranted because you could of played much better sustaining cards at that point.
@@tokiteishi5437 but i already run 4 copies of Jar of greed and i don't know how Pot of greed works!?
Reckless greed is a neg 1, so i don't use that either
@@tokiteishi5437 Dude that was joke
Oh oof where do I begin?
PoD is not -9, it is a +2. Your deck is not considered a resource during the Duel. Yes you banish 9 from your deck fd, and yes this can break combos, that;s why most decks that use it aren't reliant on certain combo cards.
Reckless greed has no cost. The only penalty is skipping your next draw phase, which is the second card you got from the trap. Its a +1, basically putting you through two Draw Phases without actually entering that phase twice. And 99% of decks can survive this because they can still search and draw using other effects, and unless your opponent yata-locks you the +1 can give you advantage
Lightforce Sword is still number one when it comes to banish face-down in my mind because it's also a bit iconic in anime when Yugi activated against rare hunter using Exodia deck and Kaiba to seal temporary Obelisk.
The true ruling is from the anime where "removed from play" or "banishing" is where you just shove the cards into your pocket.
(joke)
No joke, but I think that was what removing from play was intended for. When cards are removed from play, you might as well put them in your pocket because there shouldn't be that many ways to interact with them, much less use them.
Since you're carrying a duel disk I don't know what else are you supposed to do with them. Those were invented before banishing card was even a thing so Pegasus got the last laugh
thank you for teaching me this. I was wondering the interactions with pot of desires, and face down banished cards. You helped me become a better local judge
I'm really glad you made this video, I just got back into playing and I had no idea how face down banished worked.
I liked this video a lot! I know all the important stuff to play the game, but there a ton of little stuff (ex: chains and activation timing) that I'm confused about, and would love to see more videos like this
"Green maju" looks fairly Red to me
It’s gren maju
@@legendsoflaughter3313 did...did you not get the joke
Banishing face-down has randomly existed in the game since 2005, though. I believe Different Dimension Capsule was the first card to do it.
Quick Correction: Banishing face-down from Evenly Matched is considered the player banishing their OWN face-down cards. NOT the opponent banishing your cards. Because it says "Make your opponent"
Hoakisol not necessarily, as they may have set cards and so they may decide to give those but your opponent can’t see them still but they keep them instead and give face up card. usually when they say “make your opponent” is because your opponent decides which cards go or not but usually you decide if it done by your effort
The history of YGO's banish and MTG's exile is actually kinda similar. The term "exile" wasn't introduced until 2009, before that it was "remove from game" and the zone was called "removed-from-game zone". They felt that since they created more and more cards that interacted with the zone or only temporarily put cards there, that exile was a much more fitting and also shorter term. MTG even has facedown exile, though in that case neither player is allowed to look at them unless the exiling card specifically says you can. Maybe that's where the confusion comes from?
2 things I'd like to add:
1st - EVEN IF the monsters are banished from the Extra Deck by the effect of Eater of Millions, and both players know they are monsters, a random person who came over and looked at the Duel would NOT KNOW they are monsters! That's how you should think of the game rules - consider if you took a screenshot of the board and asked someone what happened, they could take a guess but they wouldn't know for certain - what if instead of banishing 15 with Eater of Millions, you banished the minimum (5) then played Pot of Desires? Or what if you used Psy-Framelord Omega's effect 15 times then played Pot of Desires? There's no way of knowing for certain.
2nd - This more applies to banished cards in general, but is especially important for face-down ones because of how hard they can be to get back into play. If a card states "return it to the GY" about a banished card, then it doesn't HAVE to have been banished from the GY! It saying "return" is basically the game saying "put it back into a zone that ordinary cards can interact with" since clearly the card came from your Deck if you banished it with Desires, or the field if you chose to banish it off your opponent's Evenly Matched, or from your hand if your opponent used Trickstar Reincarnation. If cards did need to come from the GY to be returned there then a LOT of cards would be really bad but that's not how it works.
This isn't something I thought needed explaining but people have proven me wrong on that one three times now so I thought it should be said
I didn't know you could look at banished upside-down cards :s
I thought that was the downside of pot of desires, how do people think its bad them?
If I have a deck that really relies on a certain card (think Heroes and Mask Change), banishing more than one copy of that card is pretty rough. That's why you generally try to play Pot of Desires in a deck where you play 3 of your combo pieces.
@@CosmicDoom47 Yeah you can't use it on every deck, but that doesn't make it a bad card
I totally agree. This is just what I think the thought process of someone who doesn't like it is like.
Honestly I think you should combo off and then use desires to extend
I think they should print a Convulsion of Nature for banished cards. All facedown banished cards go faceup and vice versa.
OR Any card that's Banish is Banish Face-Down.
Also if you want to get back cards from BFD, just use Necro Face. It brings back both players Banish cards and face down cards. Also if it's destroyed by battle both players must Banish the top 5 cards from their deck. (Face-up of course)
• There is almost no other cards to get back Banish Face-down cards.
I love to use Desires with Primal Seed. It requires some set-up, but if you have 2 of them and a card that banishes all cards send to the GY then desires becomes a +11 or better.
Edit: forgot to mention that you need BLS on the field (the one that most decks can run)
I think that would defeat the point of the cost in the first place.
It should be a continues spell card, Limited.
Only works if cards are being banish.
A card like this can easily be destroyed or negated
Maybe it only flips up both banish zones for a single turn, and is limited to be a once-per-duel effect
This was interesting. In Magic: the Gathering, face-down exile cards cannot be looked at unless the card's text says you can. The fact that in Yu-Gi-Oh! the owner can look at their face-down cards at any time no matter the reason is really different.
Here’s another obscure game mechanic, face down attack position. I wish Komoney implemented that more into the game.
Face down attack position has been gone ever since Master Rule 4. Rest in peace, memes
Not after the errata
*Forbidden Memories has entered the chat*
Thank you for making these kind of videos explaining the rules and metagame of Yugioh. I haven't played this game in over 10 years and probably can never play the TCG itself due to living in a rural area, but these kind of videos are neat to watch since Yugioh has more characteristics about it I find desirable than other card games don't have and the more you describe it the more appealing it sounds.
It IS really simple.
If a card specifies more than just "banished cards", then face-down banished can't be used.
Like when a card say's "face down spell and trap cards" you can't just target a face down monster.
Better comparison would be "If a card specifies more than monsters, it doesn't automatically affect face-down monsters."
But can Pot of Acquisitiveness target face down cards?
So I was playing my egyptian god deck at my locals, and I activated Ra's effect that lets you wipe all your opponent's cards off the table, and they kicked me out of the venue. It almost feels like no one else knows what Ra does. Could you make a video on that next?
th-cam.com/video/avgTkzLWQgQ/w-d-xo.html he made one for all 3
ra doesnt have that effect read the card
Is this supposed to be ironic
Woosh
@@alanburnsstuff9319 the joke
Your head
Macro Cosmo/Different dimension was a structure deck released that worked with removing from play mechanics. I loved that deck, it made imperial Iron Wall to become a thing
now and then ..... it's a huge diffirence
i remember when i first play yugioh ......... a deck full with 1900 atk monster and a bunch of vanillas beat-sticks WITHOUT KNOWING THE RULES ... XD
I didn't realize you can look at the Desires banished cards, I'm going to keep that in mind for my next locals
Necroface and Elemental Hero Electrum are the two main cards that I can think of that will return facedown banished cards. I think Soul Release has an even cooler text that they really should make a new effect. "Removed from the current Duel" would mean that it is impossible to return those cards to play in any form and that they have no effect on the duel in any way.
This is so helpful, I was super confused about face up vs face down banishing. Thanks for clearing that up.
"MST negates"
I MST your MST
I De-Spell your MST
I Magic Jam your De-Spell
@Khaoscraft I harpie's feather duster all of those
I don't play Yu-Gi-Oh (had cards when I was much younger but never really played (didn't even really know how), played one of the GBA games a year or two ago, and watched the anime (Yugi seasons only) around when I played that GBA game) yet I enjoy watching your videos, dzeeff. You're just really interesting to listen to with your in-depth explanations of things, I guess :P
Also, Spheal = the best
This is not a pack ope..Oops Wrong Video...
Well darn
I already knew the ruling but it’s always great to see how you explain things so this was yet another 10/10 enjoyable video. I commented on another video of yours but just in case I missed the window where you look at comments, I have an idea for you, where you could take a look at cards that were popular but not that great, Like the Egyptian Gods, and explain why they are too slow/ineffective nowadays and how they could be redone to be more competitive
Thank you for making this video. I've seen many people use Necroface with Pot of Desires in the fashion you explained didn't work.
I am sure many people would like to see a Ruling discussion on Simultaneous Effects Go On Chain (SECOG) and how that interaction works.
I know I would watch that video, would be a great tool. Thanks Doug!
Wait what I can look at my desire cards after I go neg 9?
Yeah shockingly
That's a plus 1 not a neg 9. Card advantage is based on the number of cards you have in youre hand so with desires you use 1 card ( desires it self) to draw 2 and that's a plus 1
Shut up
@@cassanodonato6893 shut up, its a clear joke
@@cassanodonato6893 r/woosh
Me: Uses Pot of Desires
Also me: Banishes every copy of Necroface
I got a game loss because a judge saw me check my own face down banished cards before desires existed. He said since I didn't banish them, I could not check.
Another important rule. APPEAL APPEAL APPEAL the judge ruling. Let the head judge tell you the ruling. There are TONS of judges that are misinformed and they will ruin your day. Don't be like me.
thank you for making this video. I've had a ton of trouble with f-d banishing ever since returning to the game!
Here's a weird one. If you correctly summon BLS Envoy and its banished facedown then returned to the GY you can still summon it using cards like Monster Reborn.
Normally cards lose their "must first be summoned by" if they leave Public Knowledge but there is a ruling that specifically says its fine with facedown banished.
Wait, so if I summon an extra deck monster and it gets Book of Moon'ed, it's no longer considered properly summoned?
@@n0ame1u1 remembers the specifics of its summon, as in synchro summoned and special summoned but not any details of the materials of its summon.
Re: Tyranno Infinity effect: I found that out the hard way. Not with the specific card you listed, but with the Helios trinity. I felt such a fool afterwards lol.
Speaking of PSCT making unwieldy text into single words: Excavate.
That one word stands in for "Reveal [cards] from the top of your deck", a whole seven or eight words. Imagine Naturia with the old text. Disgusting.
mtg has a similar keyword, scry.
There is a card that lets you "Scry 1, draw a card."
The full text (based on the wiki) would be "look at 2 cards from the top of your library and put them on the bottom of the library or back on top in any order. Draw a card."
@@samuelalphabet5360 Yeah, scry was a mess before it was reduced. Also, on less crowded cards, they do use reminder text _(Text in parentheses that tells you what you already know)_ to explain it to new players.
don't you mean sylvans?
@@hiddenvoice27 maybe. I don't pay attention to either, I just knew it was a nature-based archetype
researchinbreeder fair enough, I only know because I played naturias for a bit back in the day
Best advice I can give when deck building is make sure every card in your hand can be used in one turn, what I normally do is combo cards then add in a bunch of draw cards to make my deck more consistent
Dude! Thank you so much! Me and my friends and I have been so confused about this rule for a while now.
Testing out my own custom archetype that banishes cards face-down on duelingbook; ; more people need to see this video. I constantly run into situations where people try to target face-down banished cards by name/type/attribute or attempt to activate "leave the field" effects when a monster is banished face-down... hard to try to balance something when people cant understand easy rules
Knowing this, Pot of Desires and Pot of Acquisitiveness Will work as well as mixing oil with water.
Pot of Desires then NS necroface then you got a big plus as now pot of Desires turns into pot of greed since you recovered your face down banished cards along with getting the chance to start your deck combo resources
"When this card is flipped face-up" vs FLIP effects. Been playing for 12 years and this still gets confusing.
Rulings dealing with Damage Step or potentially more in depth with the whole Attack Declaration, Battle Step, Damage Step.
Talk about the difference between negating and destroy (mystical space typhoon). talk about how people used to use MST on the fire fist formation cards so they could stop the effect even though it doesnt negate those effects
I built my thunder dragon deck and saw people put pot of desires in. I wondered doesn't that ruin the point of the deck getting the effects? Then I thought of thunderhawk, but this video answered that line of logic. Thank you dzeef
So I don't play Yu-Gi-Oh, haven't for a decade, and when I did I only ever casually played the apparently-awful structure decks; I acknowledge that I don't have much background knowledge here. That being said, I've watched several of your videos over the last few weeks and I feel like I've gotten a basic sense of the mechanics of competitive play, and Pot of Desires is a card I can't seem to understand. What sort of strategy can benefit from losing a quarter of the deck at random, in a way that can't be retrieved, even for a +1 advantage? What sort of list can reliably draw two cards that can offset losing that much of its pool of cards? I'm not arguing against it, I just was hoping someone could explain a situation that would be good in. Thanks in advance!
Speaking as someone who has about as much personal experience as you do: Pot of Desires is useful mainly because it puts an extra card in your hand, giving you more options. The 10 cards that got banished don’t mean anything if they’re not in your hand or graveyard, so the cost doesn’t usually mean anything aside from potentially stopping you from using a searching for that card (in which case, run multiple copies to reduce the chance of that breaking the combo)
Devil’s Playmate (Counter Trap)
When this card is activated apply one of these effects then banish this card face down-
- Pay half your life points; banish one card on the field faced down.
-If a spell/trap card or monster effect is activated, pay half your life points; negate the activation and and if you do, banish it faced down
- Once per duel if “Devil’s Playmate” is in the banish zone face down you can pay half your life points; return one other banished card to your hand.
You can pay half your life points to activate this card from the hand.
If you’ve paid life points as a cost more than once the same turn this card was activated, during the End Phase of that turn you lose the duel.
Thanks dzeeff, I've enjoyed all your videos on rulings and why nobody plays and the beginner concepts.
Hey man been a fan for a little while now and I'm really happy to see how you've grown and excited about the future of the channel.
Now as someone who's really annoyed by the Yugioh community right now for often complaining about banning firewall dragon, I think it's important to ask "why doesn't anyone talk about Konami maybe breaking new ground and introducing Yu-Gi-Oh's first twice or thrice per turn clause?"
I've been playing banish decks for a little over a year and I've been really interested in facedown banished cards. So far I only know 3 cards in yugioh that can target facedown banished cards (omega, primal seed, and paleozoic leanchoilia)
One thing that I really wanted to experiment with is what happens when you use these cards on face down extra deck monsters and put them in the gy (using paleozoic leanchoilia to target a banished monster that has an effect when its sent to the gy) sadly due to wording of leanchoilia and omega, it doesn't say "send the banished card to the gy" it says "return that banished card to the gy" which is because I had some really cool eater of millions + omega/leanchoilia plays in mind with cards like N'tss and others. Interesting video though
This was me with Pot of Desires. I didn't realize that you couldn't bring those cards back with Burial From a Different Dimension. I still think it's a strange ruling but it is what it is :)
Well, one thing I learned is that "remove from play" wasn't a game mechanic. I'm glad I tuned in.
Crucial distinctions here this is a really useful vid. I like that the preface comes after the rulings
Very random thought: Why are there no cards that put cards in the graveyard face-down... I feel like that could and maybe should be a thing.
I'd like a hero lives like card that normal summon from deck.😎
Monocrome That sounds pretty unnecessary tbh
Monocrome
That would be highly impractical, because there is much more interaction with the graveyard than with banished cards.
To avoid broken combos with Question
/s
I honestly tought that face down banished cards would be hidden from both players
If you can actually know what cards you banished this already makes them a MUCH better thing, since the deck thinning that something like Pot of Desires does to your deck sudenlly makes sense, even with a drawback as large as that
Great video
Probably another reason why they changed the wording of "remove from play" to "banish", aside from being wordy, was that it was simply, functionally incorrect after a time. At the time the term was first introduced, when a card was "Removed from play", it REALLY WAS gone for the rest of the duel, it was functionally non-existent, because there were no cards that interacted with cards that had been removed from play. But, as time went on, as these things always progress, cards were introduced that COULD interact with cards that had been removed from play, which meant that realistically, they weren't outside the boundaries of regular play at all. So, changing it to a less definitive wording just made sense.
Also, I think that the reason face-down banishment exists, or at least part of it, was because so many powerful cards could easily interact with banished cards, to the point that there were some potentially broken interactions that could happen, which put something of a limit of the kinds of cards that could be printed. So, from a balance perspective, they needed a way to heavily limit banish interactions, while still keeping it as a normal gameplay mechanic. So, face-down banishment now exists as a way to limit the ways in which you can interact with banished cards (basically, any effect that specifies card properties in any capacity cannot be used on face-down banished cards, whereas generic banish interactions still work fine). Face-down banishment is now the closest thing we have to true "removed from play" status, since they are the hardest cards in the game to interact with. The trade off is, the lack of public knowledge means they're protected from your opponent's meddling as well.
Ghostrick skeleton also interacts with face down banishing "flipped banish face down the same number of cards from the top of the opponents deck as the number of ghostrick monster you control"
This isn't regarding rulings much but what about a video going over cards or monsters that were using future mechanics at least in some form, Like how in the anime Gate Guardian worked as a sort of awkward xyz monster being able to detach its components to prevent it being destroyed, Just things like that with cards that were ahead of their time if you will.
Can you go over why some cards "Miss the timing" due to specific wording? Thanks!
I don't even play yugioh, I just love hearing you talk about it. Binged almost all of your videos
Well now with A-Assault limited to one, we can forget to use Pot of Desire in an ABC deck.
Very helpful video. Thank you. One more question, since the face down banished are not public knowledges I’m guessing that mean I cannot use pot of acquisitiveness. Since I cannot specify 3 monster cards
Correct
I like this type of video. Mixing history and rulings is an interesting idea and I hope to see more in the future.
Question:
Burial from different Dimension -> Won't work for opponents face-down banished cards!
BUT, work for your face-down banished cards, as you can look into them?
I knew all of these, but I suck at other rulings. Time to look up more of these videos in hopes that I learn something.
I think these videos are really good because everyone van use them. All Yugioh players need to know this and if they know already, they have confirmation. I hope to see more in the future on topics like Damage Step.
Awesome! This was helpful for my toon kingdom deck
I wonder what the next "permanently removed" area will be. It was graveyard, then banished(or remove from play), now banished faced down. What's next "target one card and annihilate it from the duel". We gotta keep making places for cards to go. I eagerly await for Banish face-down to just be another resource. Hell, there's already a few.
This video was greatly needed. Many thanks, dzeeff!!
So... just want to make sure I get this... the card owner can look at the face down banished cards, and you can target the cards to be put back in if it meets public knowledge criteria associated with the face down card.
So my question would be: if there is a card that is a generic "put a card from banish zone into owners graveyard", would you be able to select a face down banished card from your opponent without being able to see which cards you are selecting? (Effectively, at random)
The answer is yes, because Psyframe Omega can do that. It's a really interesting interaction and I wish I would had brought it up in the video :)
I'm an OG YGO player but haven't really touched the game since 2013.
I watched some of your videos and TH-cam just continued to recommend your videos to me.
So it's the third night in a row I'm lying in bed with my phone in hand watching your stuff.
I have one request. Most of the time you're just showing one card at a time, maybe consider rendering your video in 1080x1920 (vertical).
On the desktop it'll be turned, but on mobile, like for me right now it'd make the cards a lot easier to look at.
Greetings Dzeff, i was wondering if you would consider making a video explaining the most obnoxious situation i have ever faced in yugioh , "missing the timing".
The most important lesson to have with Pot of Desires to learn is first, the cards you banish do not matter. The second lesson is to learn when you should and shouldn't play desires.
Very good video as always! Next time would you do a video about missing timing and spell speed? I still don’t understand those very well
Video idea: When can you look at your opponent's hand or deck in a game. When they have no targets for mandatory floaters, mind crush, etc.
In time, banishing facedown would be like banishing until a "new" banishing mechanic.
Really nice video i would honestly love if you could upload more ruling videos
inb4 somebody says you can bypass Desires with Diamond Dude. Yes, that is a thing you can do, but you can also use Cards of Consonance, White Elephant's Gift, Destiny Draw, etc with Diamond Dude's effect instead. Not helping that much xD
I’d love to see more videos like this that cover rulings that don’t come up often in games and/ or aren’t explained particularly well in the rule book.
Maybe a Token episode next? You can get some pretty interesting scenarios when tokens are involved. Like, I’m pretty sure Tokens can’t be face down with the odd exception of Magical Hats?
Cards just being face down in general can also have quirks like how chaining Book of Moon to a monster effect activation can “pseudo-negate” that effect because the monster effect is nowhere in play. But I think I’ve also heard that Facedown monsters can be used for contact fusions which makes no sense to me at all because face down cards have no properties beyond the zone that they’re in.
(I could be wrong about these, I’m not a judge).
Nice work. 👍
What about something like cyber network? Because it targets banished cyber dragons?
Only thing I didn't know is that you get to look at facedowns. I just thought they were dead forever unless you shuffle everything with Necro
I distinctly remember speaking out of ignorance many times when it came to face down banishing
Interesting video. Then, I understand from what you said that cards that have banishing effects are simply useless when they are banished face-down in terms of their effect activation. My question is: a card like D.D. Scout Plane is affected by these condition, too? And why not to think that cards that have banishing effects could have activated their effects and establish a rule that make cards being verified for any doubt?
DD Scout Plane will not Special Summon itself if banished face down, correct
Thanks dzeef. I was really confused about banish face down mechanic
First time I remember dealing with face down banished cards was playing esper girl in psychics.
@dzeef So if your monster has a banishing effect instead of sending your creature to the GY, does that mean flip effects don't happen if they were attacked and banished. I thought that if I had a Man-Eater Bug and he got attacked facedown it'll be destroyed, but I still get the card effect correct after the damage caculation phase?
Your point about splashing cards to combo with desires you forgot that eater of millions is a good card to play with desires. Both cards are good on their own but also can work together. However eater of millions is better suited to just run into problem cards.
I knew all of those, except that I CAN check my face-down banished cards! I thought neither players could!
My first experiance with Banish Facedown was Ghostrick Skeleton. I was so laughting on how I can do things. XD
Where do you get the card images from dzeeff?? I use google with a image size filter but was wondering how you get all. Yours so percfect??
I just google it and try to pick the largest, cleanest pictures
dzeeff thanks lol didnt expect a reply but google is a youtubers best friend lol keep up the good quality good content
Query: fusion tends to work with cards that are not public knowledge (in hand or face-down on field). Would a fusion card such as cyberload fusion be able to use face down Banished monsters as material?