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Israel's Holy War: The Herem in Context
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 เม.ย. 2023
- Discover the ancient Israelite concept of "Herem" or "The Ban" in this intriguing video. Delve into the philosophy of war in the ancient Near East and how it compares with ancient Israel and Judah. Explore the historical, cultural, and theological aspects of "Herem" and its implications on conquest and devotion to God. Reflect on the ethical and moral implications, and draw connections to modern audiences. Gain insights into this ancient practice's relevance in our present-day world. Let's dig in.
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For a good start into the literature check out:
Crouch, C.L. War and Ethics in the Ancient Near East: Military Violence in Light of Cosmology and History. de Gruyter: Berlin: 2009.
Dewar, Benjamin, Representations of Rebellion in the Assyrian Royal Inscriptions, Ph.D Dissertation University of Birmingham: 2019.
Mattias Karlsson, Relations of Power in Early Neo-Assyrian State Ideology. de Gruyter: Berlin, 2019.
Mario Liverani, “Thoughts on the Assyrian Empire and Assyrian Kingship,” in A Companion to Ancient Assyria. Wiley Blackwell, New York: 2017.
Lauren A.S. Monroe, "Israelite, Moabite, and Sabean War-herem Traditions and Forging of National Identity: Reconsidering the Sabean Text RES 3945 in Light of Biblical and Moabite Evidence," VT 57 (2007): 318-341.
P.D. Stern, The Biblical Herem: A Window in Israel's Religious Experience. Brown Judaic Studies, 1991.
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Hello, I was wonderign if you guys have thought about doing a video on Cherubims parallel in the ANE and Bible. Or on first temple archeological similarities to other elements of temples in the ANE. I would love to see you guys making a video about those subjects!!!
We have a video on Supernatural Beings of the Bible that would be a good place to start: th-cam.com/video/S0SiGmUaeOw/w-d-xo.html. We’ll put a video on cherubim on our list of ideas and see if that fits with what we’re doing in the future. Thanks!
Great video, as always. I also read in Heiser's The Unsseen Realm that "total destruction" was probably aimed at the last vestiges of the giants, who needed to be eliminated completely.
Really enjoyed this one. I love the way you guys present your source material.
Awesome video! I love your guys’ work.
While I don’t know the original proposal, I have heard the proposal that herem is a form of sacrafice with it being covered in KL Noll’s paper “Canaanite Religion” I’m not for sure if this idea is correct but it is intriguing.
I actually covered it a little bit in my video on Canaanite religion, but I made the footnote that it’s one of the possible views of herem, and that there are other scholarly ideas out there.
Love this channel and appreciate your guys’ work
This is wonderful
After Netanyahu referenced “Amalek” to justify Israel’s genocide in Gaza, we ABSOLUTELY need to discuss and address this concept. That reference, together with everything that Israel has done to the Palestinians since, is a painfully clear indication that we’re seeing herem being applied as GENOCIDE in real-time.
Your channel is amazing and is a hidden jem I pray God will give more recognition to. Thank you sincerely for all your hard work! I wanted to ask a heartfelt question that has been on my mind. Many (if not most) scholars think that the concept of a "messiah" was not original to Judaism, but was borrowed from Persian thought-Zorastrianism- during the exile. In your opinion, how much credence do you give to that idea? Is Zorastrian literature a worthwhile thing to examine for cross-comparison with the Bible?
Thanks so much for your kind words, they're a real encouragement! In regards to Zoroastrian influence on Judaism and Jewish thought I have to be honest and say that's not something I'm particularly familiar with. I'm sure there is a large literature that explores various ideas but I am simply not well read on it. With that said I will note that one factor in this discussion is when one believes various passages were written. The concept of the Messiah is certainly throughout the Hebrew Bible but if you prefer to see the Hebrew Bible as a composition of - or very heavily edited during - the Persian period you may be more inclined to see Zoroastrian influence where as if you understand large elements of the Hebrew Bible as having pre-exilic origin you may be disinclined to see as much influence. Personally, I suspect that there was an amount of borrowing of certain Zoroastrian concepts into preexisting Jewish thought as the Jewish communities lived under Persian rule, but I have questions to the degree of that borrowing and to what extent those pre-existing ideas in Jewish thought were modified by borrowed ideas. I don't know if that just muddies the water further or not but I am just not sure on a number of these questions as it's far outside my area of expertise! This is definitely a topic I hope we can explore in greater depth in the future,
@@BeneaththeBible Thank you for responding to my comment! No, no fields of expertise are narrow, I don't expect you to be especially knowledgeable on everything. Yes, I agree that depending on how much one believes the bible as we have it now is pre or post exillic, would partially influence those judgments. I will search more in-depth about the topic sometime in the future.
What are your thoughts on the peoples devoted to destruction were only the giant clans, i.e., the Rephaim?
We have a video coming on the Nephilim soon
It's a moot point, but Finkelstein has argued the context of all this is the reign of Josiah. Josiah wants to take advantage of the Assyrian withdrawal from the former Northern Kingdom c650??
Yes! This is something we didn't really have the time to get into. But there is much to be said for a "Double Redaction" of the DtrH with a kind of first edition finishing during the reign of Josiah and a second after the exile. Even reading Joshua as a kind of literary Josiah in that Joshua's exploits are posed as a historical precursor to Josiah's then-current-day geo-political ambitions. Though there are also very good works suggesting parts of Joshua have some older elements. There is a lot of very good work on this and we just couldn't cover it all. But even if the concept of herem was particularly useful in the 7th century in Judah following the Assyrian conquest of Israel we think there is a strong case that the concept was not a 7th century innovation and goes back much earlier - even in Judah/Israel. Josiah expanding Judah's border may well have been conceived in terms of herem and the establishing of a people in a new land. Thanks for your comment!
Beneath the old testament haha
That’s pretty accurate! We really do plan to cover more NT stuff but there’s just a lot more to cover in the OT
Keep up the good work!