Why does God order war in the Old Testament? What about His command not to murder?

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  • Why does God order war in the Old Testament? What about His command not to murder? by Fr. Gabriel Wissa
    In the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit; One God, Amen.
    Why does God order war in the Old Testament? Doesn’t that contradict His command not to murder? Why did He order the annihilation of certain nations? Why did He choose to kill them by the sword? In this video, we will attempt to answer these questions and touch on others.
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  • @CopticOrthodoxAnswers
    @CopticOrthodoxAnswers  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Does God desire war: th-cam.com/video/9MeGNJU0iyk/w-d-xo.html
    OT book: www.orthodoxebooks.org/sites/default/files/pdfs/Flood%2C%20Plagues%2C%20Wars_.and%20a%20Loving%20God_%20-%20Father%20Gabriel%20Wissa.pdf
    Epigenetics: th-cam.com/video/kp1bZEUgqVI/w-d-xo.html

    • @elsoil3387
      @elsoil3387 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi, thank you for this. I want to understand the OT more but the book you linked to above no longer exists :( How can I get it please? Thanks.

  • @williamedwards2512
    @williamedwards2512 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    This has got to be the clearest and most exact explanation of the Old testament times that I've ever heard. And thank you father for keeping these teachings so short most people will not sit for 1 or more hours in front of their computers no matter how interesting the teaching. In such a short time your messages are delivered with a power that can only be Holy Spirit inspired. While others mumble on for hours trying to give the same message and fall short every time. Thank You Fathers!

    • @CopticOrthodoxAnswers
      @CopticOrthodoxAnswers  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you dear William for your meaningful comment. We truly need your prayers.

  • @natexamanuel
    @natexamanuel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is the most important u tube orthodox church channel may God's grace be upon you our lovely fathers.

  • @theresamorgis4736
    @theresamorgis4736 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi Fr
    I am a RC from Malaysia. I believe we have a small presence of EO (maybe Malankara Syrian)in my country.
    I have been following some of the talks from your community. While appreciating your effort in the area of apologetics, I hope and pray both the east and west come into communion and putting aside old grudges and handle the disagreement in a better manner.
    I believe God has its plan in the schism where each tradition and even denomination has journeyed. Each tradition has developed its strengths but also weaknesses. Together in unity, we can weather the storm now and ahead. We need both lungs to breath effectively ... the east and the west. God bless us all!

    • @CopticOrthodoxAnswers
      @CopticOrthodoxAnswers  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Amen!

    • @husq48
      @husq48 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CopticOrthodoxAnswers Really, is that what the Orthodox Church really teaches? th-cam.com/video/8ky9eTKJnto/w-d-xo.html

  • @natexamanuel
    @natexamanuel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    May Almighty God reward you for your pure and Apostolic teachings

  • @natexamanuel
    @natexamanuel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I really learned a lot about my faith May God bless again

  • @patricklennon5195
    @patricklennon5195 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great explanation! I have always wondered this. This video goes well with the video on Free Will/ God’s Foreknowledge.

  • @KurtM1966
    @KurtM1966 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you CYC and Father Gabriel, I see the 2 links but cant find this series. This is very needed as Ive been conflicted on this topic.GOD bless you 🙏

  • @curlyhead94
    @curlyhead94 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Abouna, I have a question. Our God is the same God yesterday, today and tomorrow. How can we understand how God in the old testament said an eye for an eye and in the new testament said to turn the other cheek?

    • @CopticOrthodoxAnswers
      @CopticOrthodoxAnswers  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This video along with the whole Old Testament series are aimed at answering exactly that question! St. Cyril of alexandria speaks to your question in his commentary on St. Luke's gospel,
      "Such an enactment [eye for an eye] required a person not to injure others. Supposing him to have sustained an injury, his anger at the wrongdoer must not go beyond an equal retribution. But the general bearing of the legal mode of life was by no means pleasing to God. It was even given to those of old time as a schoolmaster, accustoming them little by little to a proper righteousness and leading them on gently towards the possession of the perfect good.” St. Cyril of Alexandria, Homily on the Gospel of St. Luke 6.29.
      - You can find this whole commentary online and it makes for beautiful reading.
      God bless you!

  • @Rezparviz
    @Rezparviz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the deal . God ordered the killing of men woman and children . Why didn’t God just do it himself ?? Doesn’t he not give breath and take it away couldn’t he cause heart attacks or death in an instant

  • @natexamanuel
    @natexamanuel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If possible I need saints book like Augustin, Ephrem

    • @CopticOrthodoxAnswers
      @CopticOrthodoxAnswers  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hello Nathaneal, here are a few links
      1. www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf213.html
      - In this volume you can read (for free) some of the works of St. Ephrem the syrian although the translation is from the late 19th-early 20th centure
      2. www.amazon.ca/Ephrem-Syrian-Classics-Spirituality-Paperback/dp/0809130939/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=ephrem+the+syrian&qid=1580369793&sr=8-1
      - This is a collection of the hymns of St. Ephrem for whom poetry and hymnody were a preferred way of writing.
      3. www.amazon.ca/Selected-Prose-Works-Ephrem-Syrian/dp/0813214211/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=ephrem+the+syrian&qid=1580370196&sr=8-4
      - Here is some prose writing of St. Ephrem which includes; commentaries on Genesis and Exodus, his Letter to Publius, and The Homily on Our Lord

    • @natnaelemmanuel5883
      @natnaelemmanuel5883 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CopticOrthodoxAnswers I really appreciate for your assistance may our mother of light saint Mary be with you all the time.

  • @Flammenhagel
    @Flammenhagel 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is only through god that we know that what god does is bad, and that is good, no need to justify anything

  • @uhitsethan
    @uhitsethan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    We can answer this question if we can establish whether or not God is anchored in the present and if He takes an active role in our world. It must be possible that God can change the future. His creation does not limit him. Therefore if He created time and the progression of time, and is all-knowing what would come if something were to change, would He not seek to change it for the better in the present? If there is nothing God cannot do, can God change? We cannot decide for God whether or not He can change as He sees fit.
    At the beginning of creation, if He set everything in motion and set everything to be, he bears direct responsibility for all outcomes. Trials, successes, free will, and every miracle must have been pre-determined at the beginning; the appearance of a God with us in the now would be an illusion. His work would have already been finished; every card laid out. The Bible teaches otherwise.
    Knowing this, one can logically infer that God is present with us now and does not control humanity, nor our free will. God can change His mind, and God Himself can change, for there is nothing God cannot do.
    Saying "the times changed, so God's response changed" needs to be backed up with concrete examples of the direct impact of God's differential treatment of people groups in different times and why. One cannot say, "God, in His grace, sheltered an under-developed humanity from correct and moral ways, for their understanding would be lacking and doing so would have been fruitless."
    That being said, the next step of this line of thinking leads inevitably to "does the concept of morality also follow God's whims and is there no true constant in the universe, other than the very existence of God?" This branch of thought leaves me, understandably, unsatisfied. BUT this is pretty much what you said in the video as your main talking point. "we can't possibly comprehend the TRUE meaning of right and wrong, and right and wrong depend on the changing of times. This thinking is moral relativism, which I firmly detest.

  • @jhs_goldenseed3896
    @jhs_goldenseed3896 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Blessed as always :) Glory be to God! i've been wanting to know the background music for a while, thanks for the info :) The music makes the Inspiration More Vivid and Refreshing :D

  • @rdbare4216
    @rdbare4216 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is an excellent presentation except for one thing. There’s far more difference between Hitler and Alexander the great then the zeitgeist! I find it alarming that you could conclude that.

  • @bibleburner8426
    @bibleburner8426 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love when christians try to justify the biblical god's savage, bloodthirsty nature. Luckily, we have no good reason to believe that the barbaric, sadistic, cruel and vain god that christians love to defend, exists at all.

    • @CopticOrthodoxAnswers
      @CopticOrthodoxAnswers  4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Without engaging in a polemical discussion with you, it is important to point a few things out for the sake of others.
      1. Of course the one who wishes to judge Christianity (in particular it seems) or ways of thoughts by their own moral compass never ask where this particular moral view was obtained. We believe this to be self-evident as though we were born 'moral creatures' and automatically recognized good and evil, right and wrong, just and unjust. We have seen what secular ideologies have done in the world by the living examples of totalitarian secular regimes which killed tens of millions of people such as the Russian Gulags (read aleksandr solzhenitsyn for more about this). Christian thought is the basis of Western civilization and yet atheists would use its moral thought to try to undermine it somehow.
      2. The creation of straw men is commonly practiced to try to undermine Christian thought. One approaches the Bible not asking how The Christian tradition has appropriated and understood this text but rather brutalizes it with their post-modern, rationalistic, reductionist, and ultimately senseless method of interpretation. One who wishes to understand what Scripture is saying must turn to the tradition and place himself within it to be able to read it properly not as one would read any scientific text today. It is with the absurd notion that the Bible is entirely self-evident as any scientific or historical text today might be that these misinterpretations are haphazardly made and these straw men are constructed. If you are interested in engaging in some of the elements of Christian thought, a very approachable introduction is Mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis.
      May God bless all of us and guide our minds to see clearly.

    • @bibleburner8426
      @bibleburner8426 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      1. Human beings were born with the ability to reason, and have the capacity for empathy... if we agree that human well being is our goal, then we can determine objective means to achieve that goal. There is no adequate evidence to suggest that we require any celestial assistance. As for secular regimes killing people; what gall you have! Your christian god has decimated way more people than any human being. I know your old testament well enough. And if you haven't yet read the constitution of the United States, you should because it is brutally clear that god is to be excluded from all government affairs...our country has just been failing our founding father's intent and letting religion encroach way too much.
      2. I don't need a straw man; anyone who reads your old testament recognizes that your god is a monster. It's clear if you are not encumbered by presuppositions. As far as science is concerned, it has proven that your bible gets almost everything wrong. Your god disseminated his most important dictates to the world in a way that it will be interpreted differently by every single person who reads it, resulting in wars and death for millions of people for millennia. Either your god is extremely inept, or he doesn't exist and your bible was written by ridiculously uneducated barbarians...I contend the latter.

    • @CopticOrthodoxAnswers
      @CopticOrthodoxAnswers  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I highly suggest you re-reading history.

    • @CopticOrthodoxAnswers
      @CopticOrthodoxAnswers  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I am Canadian... :-)

    • @bibleburner8426
      @bibleburner8426 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CopticOrthodoxAnswers Touché.