"Is Saul Also Among the Prophets?": Ecstatic Prophecy and 1 Samuel 19

In this video, we explore the fascinating story of David's escape to Samuel and Saul being overcome by a bout of ecstatic prophecy in 1 Samuel 19. This story is part of both David's rise but also as an explanation for the apparent Israelite phrase "Is Saul Also Among the Prophets?" We'll look at what the Bible can show us about the institution of prophecy and prophetic training as well as this idea of ecstatic prophecy and prophecy's role as divination. We'll go beyond the Bible and look at sources from Ugarit, Mari, Assyria and Ancient Egypt to see what they can tell us about ecstatic prophecy in the ancient world. Let's dig in.
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If you'd like to read more here are just a few of the sources we used in this video:
Martti Nissinen, PROPHETS AND PROPHECY IN THE ANCIENT NEAR EAST, Atlanta: SBL, 2003.
Martti Nissinen, “What is Prophecy? An Ancient Near Eastern Perspective,” in Inspired Speech Prophecy in the Ancient Near East: Essays in Honor of Herbert B. Huffmon. Edited by John Kaltner and Louis Stulman. New York: T & T Clark, 2005.
John Kaltner and Louis Stulman, eds. Inspired Speech Prophecy in the Ancient Near East: Essays in Honor of Herbert B. Huffmon. New York: T & T Clark, 2005.
Martti Nissinen, Ancient Prophecy: Near Eastern, Biblical, and Greek Perspectives. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2017.
Martti Nissinen editor, PROPHECY IN ITS ANCIENT NEAR EASTERN CONTEXT: MESOPOTAMIAN, BIBLICAL, AND ARABIAN PERSPECTIVES. Atlanta: SBL, 2000.
Herbert B. Huffmon, “A Company of Prophets : Mari, Assyria, Israel,” in PROPHECY IN ITS ANCIENT NEAR EASTERN CONTEXT: MESOPOTAMIAN, BIBLICAL, AND ARABIAN PERSPECTIVES. Edited by Martti Nissinen. Atlanta: SBL, 2000: 47-70.
Richard Coggins, Anthony Phillips, and Michael Knibb, editors. Israel’s Prophetic Tradition: Essays in Honour of Peter R. Ackroyd. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1982.
Ulrich Hubner and Ernst Axel Knauf, editors. Kein Land für sich allein Studien zum Kulturkontakt in Kanaan, Israel/Palästina und Ebirnäri für Manfred Weippert zum 65. OBO. Geburtstag. Gottingen: Universitätsverlag Freiburg Schweiz Vandenhoeck & Ruprecht Göttingen, 2002.
Moshe Weinfeld, “Ancient Near Eastern Patterns of Prophetic Literature,” in Prophecy in the Hebrew Bible: Selected Studies from Vetus Testamentum. Compiled by David E. Orton. Leiden: Brill, 2000.
Brad E. Kelle and Megan Bishop Moore, editors. ISRAEL'S PROPHETS AND ISRAEL'S PAST: Essays on the Relationship of Prophetic Texts and Israelite History in Honor of JOHN H. HAYES. New York: T & T Clark, 2006.
David L. Peteren, The Role of Israel’s Prophets. JSOT Supplement Series 17. Sheffield: JSOT Press, 1981.
Isbell, C. D. (2009). The Limmûdîm in the Book of Isaiah. Journal for the Study of the Old Testament, 34(1), 99-109.
Ira M. Price, “The Schools of the Sons of the Prophets,” The Old Testament Student 1989: 244-249.
Csaba Balogh, “Isaiah’s Prophetic Instruction and the Disciples in Isaiah 8:16,” Vetus Testamentunm 63 (2013): 1-18.
John Sturdy, “The Original Meaning of ‘Is Saul Among the Prophets?’ (1 Samuel X 11, 12; XIX 24)” Vetus Testamentum 20 (1970): 206-213.
Jonathan Stökl, Prophecy in the Ancient Near East: A Philological and Sociological Comparison. Leiden: Brill, 2012.
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01:04 1 Samuel 19
03:19 Prophets and Prophetic Training in Ancient Israel
07:55 Ecstatic Prophecy in Ancient Israel
09:47 Ecstatic Prophecy in the Ancient Near East
16:03 Bringing it all together

[@angelodcollazo]

This was great! Definitely a tough story to explain but you did a great job providing context and insight into it! Thank you!

[@js1423]

Another solid video! I notice a lot of Dr. Martti Nissinen in the sources!

[@davidadamovic1950]

Hey. I see you a lot on this and Zacks channel. Are you an expert? I see you recommended a lot of scholars to Zack haha

[@js1423]

@@davidadamovic1950 Not an expert, but I do study. I managed to help Zach get Dr. Amar Annus on the channel, but many others have declined the offer.

[@kevinclass2010]

Sounds like medieval Sufi orders.

[@joshvarges9230]

you would find more continuity among the monastics of the east