In this video ( • Space Engineers | THE ... ) you can see my original frag missile in action. it wasn't very effective, so I made a new frag missile. Enjoy.
‘Frag’ usually implies fragmentation as a result of a large explosive charge. Not driving a chainsaw right into someone’s face. Still, gorgeous effect. I doubt the enemy’d tell the difference.
make slightly large arms that reach off of one of the blast doors and add decoys on the end, the spinning decoys will be impossible to hit by autoturrets due to the fact that the direction is changing constantly meaning the turrets will miss and shoot in a ring around the missile. This might also be good to add to a ship to make yourself a "Shield generator" of sorts. I'll try this in my survival world as it might be really effective.
Funnily enough, I actually did this for a prototype MKIV. Never released it though, as to be honest the concept is far too unwieldy to be used in combat. Ripping apart a space station, though...
I'm very proud of the first gravity gun I made that shoots small warheads and the first video I see in my recommended is of a dude one-shotting a big ship XD The missile looks awesome! it just deletes so many blocks! subscribed and liked
@boad, look into container bombs from like 2014 or so. 500 or so explosive components would delete asteroids back then. now it takes like 10k for the same effect
Reminds me of the "Final Lotus" by Wastedspace. Except that his - ummm... weapon? - prints warheads and slowly spins to spread them out over an area which increases the hit chance; while this missile spreads its destructive load inside the target, to increase the damage when it hits.
the problem with warheads is that there's a huge amount of wastage, as many will miss and/or get shot down. losing a couple of steel plates isn't a huge deal. the other issue is that 3 blast doors can do a lot more than 1 warhead.
the reason this is effective is because while ship speeds are capped at 100m/s, there is no limit on angular velocity. Hence you can have the outer edge of your spinner going at 1000's of m/s and achieve much more devastating impacts with them.
Line the ends of the blocks with advanced rotors, put small blocks on it, detach all rotor blocks on impact with high angular speed, then it's a frag bomb.
when I play with stanton, I've made it into a bit of a joke to just drop frag missiles on literally everything. cool new toy? fragged. pirate installation? fragged. AIEnabled robot? fragged. giant statue of t posing bender? fragged.
Glad you enjoyed it! As far as advancements go, I've reverted back to the static tube to accommodate guided missiles, as the torque tends to mess with the targeting. The spinning frag will still have a purpose in the GXI military, but more as a devestation weapon against immobile targets.
I did something like this years ago, but I had it full of mini beacons, and each side of the beacon had flanged armor. Upon approaching the target it would spin slowly and disconnect the beacons. The targeting systems fire on the beacons, which break easily and the armor splits into fragments, so the target is pelted while the guns are focusing on the beacons, and the main missile can hit the target.
I propose this weapon be named the throngler. I don't know what throngling means, but I am most certain that is exactly what this missile did to those ships.
Do you have a way to release the blocks before impact? You could make it have a setting where it makes a cloud to deal with really small ships or stays together to drill through heavier ships.
Stacked rotors also make good decoy machines! Stack some rotors, give it two symetrical arms with decoys and make them spin. Enemy AI Turrets will have no clue where to shoot at!
Well it seems great, but if you are going to test something... Where are the gatling guns? I made ones one that had decoys and it only succeeds to impact 3-4 times of 10
Hmm, you might run into a couple of problems with mass. Small grid blast door blocks don't have enough mass behind them to even crumple large grid light armour, so you'll need some mass to back it up.
@@Gxaps also true, bigger is sometimes still better. I wonder if making it a Klang powered engine VS drone guidance would be a viable propulsion option
Now do one where the blocks aren’t spinning and see what happens. Spinning may be a good trick but make disposable munitions be several grids makes them difficult to produce.
If it's moving fast enough, it can tank *most* defences, but it can't do shit against moving targets. I redesigned it to be smaller and more manouverable. I intend to make a video on it soon.
Horribly. The rotors are simply too squishy and volatile. Hardly maneuverable either. I atually redesigned this from the ground up with a far smaller payload - ~1/3rd of the length, and ditched the spinning, since the velocity from it threw off any kind of tracking script.
These things demolish. I destroyed a supposedly unbeatable ship (claim by it's creator in server chat) with one. He was bosting how he's a big bad alpha griefing the moon. Put his 80k ship in the dirt with just one R.I.P. missile. Didn't even cost me 2000 pcu.😂
I think all of these are cool stuff but SE need something like energy shields. Which blocks collison damage and partially weapon damage. Just spaming few of these from distance is dumb way to fight. There should be tactic around first taking down the shields with guns THEN ram if you want.
@@Gxaps Why? If you do have some crew-mates (or scripts are allowed) you can spam few of these. Maybe not on offence but on deffence wouldn't they do great job?
@@Sravdar actually hitting things js really damn hard, and made harder by how the game handles the torque from spjnnjng objects. I actually resists motion.
@@Gxaps Well hitting stationary targets (stations, suprise attack etc) should be still managable? No? Also i wasn't talking for only this design but every kind of ram rocket (gravity rocket etc).
Well at this point you’re basically ramming one ship into another. Cool concept, but not very practical or resource efficient. Spinning small grid warheads released a few seconds before impact would be more effective.
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"I'm gonna make a fragmentation missile!" >Proceeds to build highly volatile drill.
Ya that what happened
Agreed
Potato potato
thats what good missiles are!
‘Frag’ usually implies fragmentation as a result of a large explosive charge.
Not driving a chainsaw right into someone’s face.
Still, gorgeous effect. I doubt the enemy’d tell the difference.
There are totally fragments exploding outwards. They just happen to be from the target ship.
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Downside: it didnt fragment as it was expected
Upside: it dosent need to fragment
That thing's a gosh dang drill. Looks ideal for penetrating thick armour and hitting vital points.
thats what she said
make slightly large arms that reach off of one of the blast doors and add decoys on the end, the spinning decoys will be impossible to hit by autoturrets due to the fact that the direction is changing constantly meaning the turrets will miss and shoot in a ring around the missile. This might also be good to add to a ship to make yourself a "Shield generator" of sorts. I'll try this in my survival world as it might be really effective.
Funnily enough, I actually did this for a prototype MKIV. Never released it though, as to be honest the concept is far too unwieldy to be used in combat. Ripping apart a space station, though...
I'm very proud of the first gravity gun I made that shoots small warheads and the first video I see in my recommended is of a dude one-shotting a big ship XD
The missile looks awesome! it just deletes so many blocks!
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@boad, look into container bombs from like 2014 or so. 500 or so explosive components would delete asteroids back then. now it takes like 10k for the same effect
Reminds me of the "Final Lotus" by Wastedspace. Except that his - ummm... weapon? - prints warheads and slowly spins to spread them out over an area which increases the hit chance; while this missile spreads its destructive load inside the target, to increase the damage when it hits.
the problem with warheads is that there's a huge amount of wastage, as many will miss and/or get shot down.
losing a couple of steel plates isn't a huge deal. the other issue is that 3 blast doors can do a lot more than 1 warhead.
@@Gxaps Yeah, he only ever built it in creative mode, I think.
the last part of this can be taken 1 of 2 ways
The sheer Klang factor of this device is beyond what most explosive payloads can hope to deliver
Yup. Explosives are overrated.
Instructions unclear. Built a drill that pierced the heavens.
I wonder if this could be made into a piston jolt gun shell
the reason this is effective is because while ship speeds are capped at 100m/s, there is no limit on angular velocity.
Hence you can have the outer edge of your spinner going at 1000's of m/s and achieve much more devastating impacts with them.
thats not a frag missile thats a missile with a drill on top!
Line the ends of the blocks with advanced rotors, put small blocks on it, detach all rotor blocks on impact with high angular speed, then it's a frag bomb.
it's more of an intense drill bit then it is a missile
those dc messages tripped me dude
Super cool! I might have to try doing something like this
Klang senses a great disturbance.
GigaaaaDrilllBreaaker! Just awesome.
when I play with stanton, I've made it into a bit of a joke to just drop frag missiles on literally everything. cool new toy? fragged. pirate installation? fragged. AIEnabled robot? fragged. giant statue of t posing bender? fragged.
I found this to be very interesting, if you make more devolopments onto this id enjoy watching that video
Glad you enjoyed it! As far as advancements go, I've reverted back to the static tube to accommodate guided missiles, as the torque tends to mess with the targeting. The spinning frag will still have a purpose in the GXI military, but more as a devestation weapon against immobile targets.
Now that’s a lot of damage
I did something like this years ago, but I had it full of mini beacons, and each side of the beacon had flanged armor. Upon approaching the target it would spin slowly and disconnect the beacons. The targeting systems fire on the beacons, which break easily and the armor splits into fragments, so the target is pelted while the guns are focusing on the beacons, and the main missile can hit the target.
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I propose this weapon be named the throngler. I don't know what throngling means, but I am most certain that is exactly what this missile did to those ships.
We need to redo my drag grenade video lol .
drag grenade?
@@Gxaps Klang warhead?
@@StantonSpaceGamir what does drag grenade mean?
@@Gxaps just realized it was a typo of frag…. But it gives me an idea.
This is a very effective way of channeling clangs divine wrath
Well, I'll call that ramming but with extra steps
perhaps
I was hesitant to click out of fear of disturbing Klang
Wow that seams against the Genova convention
I don't see a frag missile....I see a boarding torpedo!
This is amazing now you need to make a atmo one
the frag system also causes the turrets to have problems when aiming at it
Nice job :D
now replace those blast doors with the indestructible drills or wheels
I tried them out; wheels just bounce off unless they have significant mass behind them, and drills don't do much extra
new bioshocks looks good
Will it blend? Yes, yes it did.
Klang has entered the chat
Seems a lot cheaper than a smac round. I'll give it a go
Is it in the workshop?
I second this (a year later 😅)
Hmm a drill that shatters
the question becomes how do you mount this on a missile boat though
I love it. Now pack it with warheads
Do you have a way to release the blocks before impact? You could make it have a setting where it makes a cloud to deal with really small ships or stays together to drill through heavier ships.
You can mix a warhead in amongst the rotors to pre detonate it
Looks more like a drill to me.
Lord Klang will be coming along real soon :)
This thing probably violates some form of space Geneva convention.
More like Geneva suggestion
@@johnbastion747 can´t be accused of warcrimes if there is no one that can accuse you
Reminds me of that air-powered fidget spinner sword
suggestion, make the "fragmentation" part on the backend and have a penetration tip to get it in first then wreck havok
The individual frags kinda just penetrate stuff anyway
That's no frag that's a super-effective bunker buster
Dang... I developed a straight missile with no rotation and now I feel like slapping myself for not realizing the drill's potential.
Stacked rotors also make good decoy machines! Stack some rotors, give it two symetrical arms with decoys and make them spin. Enemy AI Turrets will have no clue where to shoot at!
i subscribed just because the discord notification was such a fucking mood
Well it seems great, but if you are going to test something... Where are the gatling guns? I made ones one that had decoys and it only succeeds to impact 3-4 times of 10
So going to make a large ship drop small grid variants of these for orbital bombing. Blast doors still for the win
Hmm, you might run into a couple of problems with mass. Small grid blast door blocks don't have enough mass behind them to even crumple large grid light armour, so you'll need some mass to back it up.
@@Gxaps also true, bigger is sometimes still better. I wonder if making it a Klang powered engine VS drone guidance would be a viable propulsion option
Now do one where the blocks aren’t spinning and see what happens. Spinning may be a good trick but make disposable munitions be several grids makes them difficult to produce.
I've done it without spinning, and it simply does not spread out, instead punching a tube through the ship rather than chopping it in half.
It's in the video he linked in the description. It's an older variant he used against a 12 mil ship.
@@Gxaps any way to do a last minute turn on of all rotors before it hits? To keep mobility until ready to damage
@@Raven5431 you can use a sensor with a tight beam to activate a timer set to increase the speed and activate itself
Why is it when I see ships I expect them to start sinking........
If the blocks themselves are also on rotors or hinges maybe you could bind a "detach rotor heads" button to make a proper frag?
That's how I made mine, and yes, it works.
Follow up video coming somewhat soon - stay tuned.
Yeah nah this never happened lol
Do that. But put inert (switched off) gyroscopes on the end instead. Like BUTTA.
sick build!
i couldnt help but make "thats what she said" jokes to some of these reply's lol
Might need to test that on a ship that will shoot at you never know it might not work as well...
If it's moving fast enough, it can tank *most* defences, but it can't do shit against moving targets. I redesigned it to be smaller and more manouverable. I intend to make a video on it soon.
@@Gxaps sweet cant qait to see it
Great, now do that to a moving target that's fighting back....
It tends to get vaporized, and the high torque makes it difficult to turn, so not particularly viable
Power it. Give it a sensor. Have sensor select "detach" for a group of rotors. Now you're ruined everything.
how tf you make the rotors spin that fast
there's multiple rotors stacked on top of each other
The only question I have is, how does it hold against a ship with working point defense?
Horribly. The rotors are simply too squishy and volatile. Hardly maneuverable either. I atually redesigned this from the ground up with a far smaller payload - ~1/3rd of the length, and ditched the spinning, since the velocity from it threw off any kind of tracking script.
@@Gxaps That's interesting, do you have a video planned on that missile?
@@Para0234 Some time soon, yeah, I'm just not enjoying the game that much
@@Gxaps Take all the time you want, don't feel forced.
How about a tutorial on the construction of this item?
It's pretty straight forward, but I suppose I could
@@Gxaps That would be awesome!
you should change its name to anti-armor missile
I think that "anti everything" would be more to the point
Good lord it tore right through that ship. How do you store something like that?
that's still something I'm trying to figure out myself. it'd likely be built by hand and stored in a silo, with the rotors spun up on launch.
@@Gxaps Try and designing a modular hanger to house it. If it's compact enough, it might be able to be integrated into a warship.
@@madcat789 it's something I can try, yeah
for ship transport, im thinking kept in a specifically designed drop bay and use remote control to pilot and detonate
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If you want something to add, er, MORE, then add rotors
wdym?
That one missile must be quite expensive. ;)
Well... You only really need one
It would crash the server before kill your enemy
crashing can be a tactical choice
@@Gxaps My adm wouldn't like this idea xD
I tried printing these misiles but the game wont allow it.
Yeah, KSH is too lazy to add subgrid projectors to the game, but there's this mod you can download (has to be installed using a jank method)
Gotta say I wasn’t a fan of the last test’s angle….
These things demolish. I destroyed a supposedly unbeatable ship (claim by it's creator in server chat) with one. He was bosting how he's a big bad alpha griefing the moon. Put his 80k ship in the dirt with just one R.I.P. missile. Didn't even cost me 2000 pcu.😂
now make it small
I think all of these are cool stuff but SE need something like energy shields. Which blocks collison damage and partially weapon damage. Just spaming few of these from distance is dumb way to fight. There should be tactic around first taking down the shields with guns THEN ram if you want.
Nevermind that actually hitting someone with one of these is about as practical as getting to space on ion thrusters
@@Gxaps Why? If you do have some crew-mates (or scripts are allowed) you can spam few of these. Maybe not on offence but on deffence wouldn't they do great job?
@@Sravdar actually hitting things js really damn hard, and made harder by how the game handles the torque from spjnnjng objects. I actually resists motion.
@@Gxaps Well hitting stationary targets (stations, suprise attack etc) should be still managable? No? Also i wasn't talking for only this design but every kind of ram rocket (gravity rocket etc).
@@Sravdar Yeah, it's somewhat viable against stationary targets
Why enemy turrets off ?
Proof of concept
Well at this point you’re basically ramming one ship into another. Cool concept, but not very practical or resource efficient. Spinning small grid warheads released a few seconds before impact would be more effective.
Against mobile targets, pre released warheads are never practical - not that this is much better.
this is warcrime btw.
I wouldn't be surprised