That’s what the U.S. is afraid of Killing auto sales in the states because of foreign competition Like the Japanese back in the 60s-90s Oh but they say it’s privacy and protection for our interests 🙄
You think only US have teriffs? Asia's tariffs are on the next level. For example, cost of Toyota Camry in pakistan is 107K USD and 70K USD in India. I'm from Singapore and here Toyota Camry costs 160K USD. Americans don't even know what real tariffs are 😂
It would have an impact for sure. Worth noting that one, it would cost more than that here & not by just a few bucks. And two, that China price ... they're currently selling it at a loss. They're estimated to be losing about $10k per vehicle.
No, should be standard. As long as people have hands and fingers there needs to be physical controls. The inundation of screens in cars for things like HVAC, etc. is SOLELY due to cost cutting, period. They just somehow convinced normies that the screens and tablets are "premium". Shouldn't have to pay even MORE money to companies for a car DLC package.
@@ghoulbuster1yep, and it gives the user a choice. For us button people it's great, and if you don't care about swiping and taping a screen all the time then you don't have to buy it. Great idea.
Very impressive! 38-year Ford employee here. As I understand it, Jim Farley wants Ford to get back to making a sedan(s), so now makes a little more sense why Farley has been driving one of these.
@@finncedar7388At a recent Ford dealer meeting, they were shown an affordable sedan based on Ford's upcoming CE1 platform, as well as a mustang sedan. So not just one sedan, but two. Ford's CEO when asked about making a sedan in the Smoking Tire podcast was saying "Well if we do make one, it's gonna look, feel, and smell a lot different than the other sedans". He cited the BMW 2002 and the original fiesta as being examples of the kinds of character filled cars Ford should offer if they end up making sedans.
38 years in Ford? Respect, Ford also launched some interesting vehicles here in China recently years, I'm currently driving a Toyota Avalon, and maybe my next vehicle will be a Ford
Xiaomi presented the car for a few days in Paris and I had the chance to go see it. Here's a few quirks that were shown to me by the staff that Doug didn't mention: ● There's a rear spoiler that lifts up in sport mode. ● The frunk is hermetically sealed, and the marketers were bragging about how you could fill it with water and ice to keep stuff cool. The little circles that you see at 16:43 are drain plugs to empty it once you're done. ● The car has voice recognition (like many others) but if you have Xiaomi smart home gadgets you can ask the car to turn off the lights or turn on the heater even when no one is home
Do you think their investment on this will return? The concept is very cool, most especially controlling your home devices from a car just in case you forgot and are already on the way or in jam.
@boxoffisa I think the market in China is so big that they are probably already making big profits from home sales. In Europe the buzz around EVs has also started dying off though, and SU7 sales are only going to start in March 2025. I've seen a couple BYDs around but I think MG might be the only chinese car company that stays in Europe, mainly because they're building a new factory in Spain to escape the tariffs
People used to consistently complain that shots like this were repetitive, since I showed them so frequently, so I stopped showing them every time. I do still show suspension raising and lowering sometimes, but not every time, to try and address these complaints. But then I get *this* complaint, so...
It’s a tough one not gunna lie. You can’t make everyone happy online. He does a good job showing us most things but I do miss the old days when he would show us literally everything
true but then you would also expect it not to have issues and break down. That's the biggest risk with a tech heavy car. it's an amazing value if the reliability is there
@@gregmccauley1687 it is the first gen and it hasn't been in production for even 1 year yet, so I believe once they get to their 3rd or 4th yearly revision, they will be a lot better with the problems. There's not even enough time to know all the problems yet
Worth mentioning Xiaomi still makes phones, laptops and smart home devices all in an advanced ecosystem and this is the brands FIRST car, making this extra impressive.
Also worth mentioning that the whole ecosystem of Xiaomi Internet of things can be accessed from the car. Wanna turn on your Xiaomi lights or set the climate at home? You can do it from your car.
also, those under the rear seat storage compartments look just the right size for a compact umbrella, which is probably their intended purpose(either that or for taking off your shoes)...some European cars had a slot in the door for an umbrella, and this must have been Xiaomi's solution.
Not really. These feature ideas can come from anyone. Typically designers, who are not engineers. The engineers make what designers possible, although sometimes these are the same person. The product manager ultimately has responsibility over what is included. They can axe any feature or demand features be added. There can be several product managers responsible for different portions of a vehicle that all report to a product leader who decides if they are meeting profitability goals.
@@garythecyclingnerd6219 I get the feeling you're speaking from theoretical knowledge rather than practical. The idea that the product manager has the final say is a fallacy and I saw that from having been a PM for years. Any seasoned PM will tell you that they are facilitators rather than dictators. They are constantly outranked by heads of departments pushing their own agendas and my comment was pointed at the fact that a gopro mount is the solution to a problem nobody has. That's typical of engineers being allowed to lead decisions (a weak PM will allow that or office politics may mean engineering has a bigger role than it should). Either way my comment was more tongue in cheek than a serious response.
The comment about these being phone mounts makes more sense. Certainly beat the vent clip-ons. In fact, accessary mounting points can be for anything. not limited to just phones or gopros.
@ No, I am speaking from experience working as a design engineer in multiple Fortune 500 companies. If your VP or senior manager is pulling rank on you, then that is their prerogative. Typically I only saw those guys focusing on profitability/margin of the product the PM was envisioning. They would also ensure that PMs are hitting goals as defined in the product development plans. I have pitched ideas to senior leadership, even had some developed before doing so. I also push back from the PMs (especially if they’re under marketing) for ideas that are difficult to manufacture. But the idea engineers have that much power I find to be absurd. Especially the larger the business, the lower the the influence any engineer can have.
Chinese EV brands get massive subsidies from the CCP. But now as the market is evaporating here in China, the government is pulling some of their support and EV brands are folding rapidly. Xiaomi can weather the storm for longer as this isn't their core business but still, buyer beware.
@@johnc1873 Not all subsidies all the same my guy. Yes Uncle Sam gives consumers credits and subsidizes charging infrastructure etc. (probably soon to stop under Trump), which is a far cry from the CCP directly paying manufacturers to produce them. Now they are scrambling to sell to Europe as the market here in China is completely flooded and EV makers are laying off people left and right.
of course. dirt cheap products made through practical slave labor, with stolen technology, that no nation with domestic companies that pay living wages could ever possibly compete with...they _should_ be tariffed.
@@miguelangelo9536 Any market that has native manufacturers wants to protect them, but every market that doesn't have native car manufacturing, like Australia, South America, and Africa is going to love the new Chinese cars.
@@miguelangelo9536 unless EU really does care about standards especially quality and safety, that's why the tariffs are actually test-based not country of origin-based
I just got back from my China Christmas trip, got to sit in a few of these and other Chinese branded electric cars, I can see why they aren’t allowed to be sold here in the US, it’s not about the safety or anything because they’re sold in Europe and other parts of the world as well. If they allowed these cars here, it would bankrupt all the American automakers cause they are better quality, better styling, more modern, more performance at a way better price point, basically US protecting their brands which is not very free-market capitalism if you ask me
@@JKnationTV it has never been free market. Free trade has never existed. There has always been tariffs protecting some sectors in every country. Try importing rice in Japan and see how much the tariffs are. Try importing corn ethanol into the U.S. and see how much the tariffs are. Try importing any food stuffs into the EU and see how much the tariffs are.
@@lambolim2178just go see some brands like Avatar, Zeekr, Li Auto and so on, they have good designers from all around the world. So some of those car's styling is not behind anymore.
@@lambolim2178 Yeah, better styling part is perplexing. This looks like a Chinese copy of a Tesla and as much as I dislike the latter I think it looks far better.
I've been to China couple times this year. I completely agree. Chinese EV's are far superior than anything US has, including Tesla. They said the EV will bring a new level playground for vehicle manufacturing. It truly is.
Sooo.. Xiaomi can make a car and kill it on the first try? No awful panel gaps, horrible paint jobs and other new manufacturer occurrences that the likes of Tesla struggled through? AND it's affordable? Well damn, well done.
Because it’s basically had billions and billions and billions pumped into it by the Chinese government. I have absolutely no doubt that they reverse engineered Tesla’s and other vehicles to look at how they’re built etc. Tesla had almost nothing to go on initially and was totally not-funded by the US government. That’s the difference.
problem is tariffs. Trump would basically force the company to move to the US. Which if they can great on them they'll definently bring some competition. If not then they'd have to suffer with the tariffs and if they chose to sell to the US your looking at those cars being 70 to 80k
They've been manufacturing well designed and well made household appliances for a long time, so the step up to an EV (which is also in many ways an appliance) was probably not that difficult.
I wish they did. Consumers deserves choices. Let the market decide if other manufacturers go out of business. If they don't want to, then they need to figure that out. The high governmental tariffs (and basically banning these) are basically them helping the other manufacturers stay afloat. Stupid in my mind.
@@kbk9535 god, china haters are so pathetic. just admit they make good cars ffs, the biggest car manufacturer is Chinese and China produced the majority of EVs last year. people are buying them for a reason
In US and Europe they didn't event hear about the technologies are used in China, which is differnet planet in terms of hi-tech. In China drivers can sleep while car is driving itself using that "cab like" lidars on the top. Nappa leather, fridge, 600+ horese power, top technologies for $45. Well, you could pay $250 for Maybach or Porsche and get all that if you want to avoid chinese cars🤷♀😁
@@safwan4751No, apple has the best products. Most reliable. Only samsung can win but still iphone is more reliable. Mac is the best pc you can buy (i think still).
Fun Fact: Xiaomi is often referred to as "Apple of China". Apple's car program (project Titan) was in development for a decade, but it was canceled in 2024. Meanwhile Xiaomi announced their EV program in March 2021 and delivered 1st production vehicle in 2024. As of November 2024, they have already rolled out 100,000+ Xiaomi SU7s
@@Notfiveo0 actually the labor cost is only a small portion in the entire cost structure considering massive usage of robots among China's car manufacturers.
This car is better and cost like 1/3rd. if only I can get after sale support in the USA, I would still buy it even with 100% markup. 100% markup is still cheaper than it's competition by 1/3rd.
the total tariff is 102.5% to be exact. also because of "national security threat" claimed by the US government, you just CAN'T get it approved commercially to be road legal in the US even if you would pay that tariff... you can only import it individually as "exotic" or as "a research subject" as the Ford CEO did...
@@GothPaoki You should watch/listen to the podcast, it's more than just value for money, its also about innovation. Don't sleep on the Chinese cars, it's going to lead the US auto industry to ruin to assume it's just because they are cheap.
As an American that has lived in Shanghai, China since 2012, China as a whole is far better than most people think. It isn't perfect, but it is getting better. Also, would like to point out that 45k USD is expensive for China. You can buy brand new cars here for 10-15k USD.
Shanghai's golden age is long over. Economy is garbage now and consumer spending down a ton with salaries being cut in every industry. Sure China is better than the average American thinks but Shanghai is in no way representative of China.
After seeing this I’m fully convinced that the Chinese are number one at information gathering. They’ve taken EVERYTHING good about many cars, that steering wheel is absolutely R8 inspired, and the price point for performance is crazy good. I stopped being so ignorant about quality when i started using Milwaukee tools, the Chinese make great stuff.
China offer cheap stuff and expensive stuff, if u pay cheap u get cheap, it just that simple. China has temu which mostly provice cheap stuff but in the meantime most of amazon stuff are just rebrand from chinese stuff.
@@DaGoook not really. Just look at chiense cities. Chinese cities are the most modern and cleanest, best infrastrcure in the world and by far. its Tier 3 citieis make americas best cities look like 3rd world countries.
“Interior quality is amazing” isn’t that a statement appropriate for a car that has been trialed and tested for years and not a new car? See what’s wrong with the world. Cart before the horse mentality.
@@solitivityActually, it's not xiaomi it's huawei. Yes the company trump says is a national threat 😂now you see why. Xiaomi however, is still a company lack of innovation especially compares to huawei for many Chinese 😢
Apple haven't had an innovative product since LITERALLY the 1980s. If you expected them to deliver on promises you're simply historically ignorant of the brand
@@wizardmotoUh, iPod? iPad? iMac? Can’t deny each of those was highly innovative and changed the market, even if you didn’t buy one. I’m not a huge Apple fanboy, but they absolutely had innovative products clear through the early 2000s, though I’d agree their stuff now and the last several years is pretty mid.
@@jaimeramirez6407 They've never been tested but with the way the seat folded like a gaming chair in that brake failure crash, I doubt the rest of the car is built any better.
@@jaimeramirez6407 is that a serious question? Have you not heard of uighurs? Time for you to get off TH-cam and do some homework…China is all about that forced labor.
And becoming dependent on them and losing all your own knowledge on building cars. Thank the great MBA managers for doing the only thing they know - cost cutting.😂
I live in China and I got mine in May. It’s an amazing car and there is so much more to it. You can also mount iPad with dedicated accessories in the back seats and connect it to the cars infotainment. And it also has very advanced self driving capability.
@@front_man001 yes those things are true. But it's also because the Chinese have a full EV supply chain with top tier tech in every single component. We can't even buy EV batteries in the US.
@@Kryptonite-r9x All the luxury brands except Japanese Brands will start breaking down after several years, Land Rover, BMW, Mercedes, so people buying it just coz of the name or prestige, then that's even more no brainer.
When a country steals everything, no wonder they had a head-start on R&D. They stole it from everyone else and didn't have the decency to not make their car look like a knockoff Taycan.
Just an FYI, Xiaomi does not only produce smartphones. It was their main market, but now they do produce A LOT of different home appliances usually really cheap and good ones.
Now I’m curious about how the Ford CEO imported, titled, and licensed this car. I’m not surprised that he was able to do it, but I’m curious about the logistics. Edit: Jim Farley said it was flown in from Shanghai to Chicago, so it did not go through Mexico.
Manufacturers are able to get them conditionally for testing and comparison to their own models, probably related to that pathway and unfortunately I have no knowledge of that process.
@@nagi-springfield93 Nobody has free trade. Tesla had to setup manufacturing IN China to gain access to their market. I'd like to see Chinese brand/design cars sold in the US as long as the rules are the same i.e. they are manufactured IN the US.
We all know we all heard him say it at the beginning of the video Not to mention the news that he said that went extremely viral on every social platform Talk about discovering that water is wet
I read that when he was discussing this car with his senior management team in the USA he said "there's only two problems with this car - "it's too good and it's too cheap..."
I still remember the first thing I bought off Ali Express was a pair of $10 Xiaomi earbuds and I just could not get over the fact that they were TOASTING my $100 Sennheisers in performance (this was back when $100 was a lot of money for earbuds). I bet this is a bit like that vs Tesla.
It is indeed. It also connects to all you Xiaomi smart devices meaning you could tell your car to open the curtains and turn up the heat and decant a bottle of wine in your apartment while on your ride home..the phone mirroring tech in the car is crazy.
@@guguigugu Exactly what I think most people are missing when they are dunking on the US market. Most Chinese domestic cars are incredibly cheap because of this.
@@guguigugu it’s cheaper because their production facility is way more efficient and fully automated and robotised and controlled by AI, and by not some low IQ fat lazy people begging more money for nothing :)
@@TheSeptu What's your opinion based on? Have you done any research on the Chinese car manufacturing market? Most of these types of responses are based on Media Conditioning, propaganda and pure Copium. Your government would not be trying to block these vehicles from the US market if they were inferior unsafe products. Lots of these Chinese car are on sale in Europe and their safety requirement are far more stringent than the US. The facts are whether you like it or not, the Chinese have won the EV race and will own the international Auto-market, like the also will almost every other markets, because they own almost every single Supply Chain and there is very little that the United States can do about that. That is the facts. If you're an honest guy, you do some genuine research.
When japanese brought their cars "Oh look at these tiny cars, they'll never capture the market" - then boom they captured the market. When Korean brought their cars "Oh haha, look at these cheap cars, they'll never capture the market" - then boom they captured the market. Now Chinese are bringing their cars, be ready as they capture the market. They've already started doing that in Asia and Africa.
This is how the lifecycle of companies goes. A company starts building a new innovative product, it gets popular and it captures market share. Then they forget how to innovate and the next generation of companies takes over. It happened so many times, in so many industries at this point it can be considered inevitable.
I'm watching this while taking the high speed train to the northeast here in China. I have been very impressed with Chinese EVs! Some of them are super futuristic in cool and useful ways. All taxis are now EVs in Beijing where I currently live. This has made the air quality a lot better! I know the government pushes EVs very hard, and I know there are caveats to selling them in the US, but after seeing the minivan MKBHD reviewed in a short, I do have envy...
I really want to see more reviews, not just from you but overall, of more Chinese car brands. It's so interesting to me that like 20 years ago, their best cars were basically rickshaws, and now they're competitive with some of our best.
@@chuckxu5910ur not far off. It’s reported charging 10%-80% in 12 minutes. Which would make it faster than Lucid, Macan and the Taycan. Not sure we have the chargers in the US to deliver that.
The fastest charging Chinese EVs can use up to 500kW charge rates, never dropping below 300kW. For comparison, the fastest charge rate for North American cars is around 350kW peak. It only takes about 10 minutes of charging between 300-500kW to fill a cars battery from 10-80%. You can plug one of those in, go grab a coffee and a donut, use the bathroom, and barely make it back in time to unplug before your car is charged. @@chuckxu5910
@@sdallnct Tesla's new super chargers can charge 350 kW which is 31% faster than the V3 super chargers. And has potential to charge a vehicle from 0-100% in under 10 minutes. Supports NACS, CCS1, CCS2, and GB/T. Now the problem is just building enough of them around the country. Tesla's done an amazing job with their charging network. These new V4 chargers will take a bit until you see a lot of em
if you ever use a Xiaomi product you would know they are the new Sony of China. All their product i own never fail. From fridge to TV to laptop to nail clippers. They built everything!
"lixiang, zeekr," - I agree, these are really cool cars. I am especially impressed by the Zeekr 001... Although, for daily use I would choose the LiXiang L9
By the time China cars get to North America the tariffs would make this a $100k car. I don't even think America would allow them to be sold no matter what. They know they would take over the market
The powerful voice assistant capability of this car has not been demonstrated. For example, you can quickly and continuously give 5 different commands, and it can execute them correctly one by one. In addition, there are some interesting small functions. When you are driving on the road, you can ask it what model of car is in front of you, and it can recognize it based on the front camera. At the same time, Xiaomi brand also has many IoT devices. Before you go home, you can tell it to turn on the air conditioning in advance, which can also be achieved
That attachment for the monitor is FKING genius. it's about damn time someone smart did that. thank god its a Chinese company, so no one else will ever get to have that .. oh wait. A car with a built in refrigerator set a lap record at the nurburg ring... WHAT? I'm gonna assume that was not in the race version of this hahaha
The prototype driven on the Ring wasn't even remotely close to the production car. It had as much in common with the production version, as e.g. the Porsche 963 has in common with a 911 or whichever production Porsche you want to compare it to. The "SU7" on the ring had a central seat, and though claimed the fastest "4 door sedan", it didn't even have rear doors - at least not ones, that could be opened. It was a pure race car with a hull, that looked like the SU7 production car. A PR stunt, and almost nobody gets it. Still impressive, even for a pure prototype, though. Just nothing in common with the street SU7. Very very didifferent than the Taycans driven on the Ring, which all were almost production cars, only equipped with safety equipment like the saftey cage IIRC. And they were pre-production versions at least in one case, but they were what was to be the real car later. That "SU7" thing though has little, if anything, in common with what Doug tested here.
It can’t be done in North America because we have labor unions that demand their workers are paid a living wage. Also, nobody in America wants to work twelve hours a day for six days a week, which is the ideal embraced by many Chinese workers.
So Chinese cell phone company builds an awesome electric car in 2.5 yrs. Apple tries for over a decade, spends BILLIONS and gives up. Tell me again why Apple is a 4 trillion dollar company?
Apple needs to be revamped. As organizations age there is bloat and metastasization of bad practices. I still think they make great products but at the current rate they've got less than a decade to reinvent themselves or they will go the way of blackberry.
because Apple: - does not receive state subsidies from the government - does not waste time on trifles and does not release a raw, low-quality, outdated product to the market - because an Apple gadget is a polished engineering masterpiece, and a product from Xiaomi is something that was scraped together from around the world.
There's a brand from china called BYD(Build your Dreams) . It's taking over India in luxury EV segment. And honestly they look good and not cheap looking in anything anymore 😊
@@AVB_42 read it properly. Don't argue without reading properly. I said in premium EV segment. In premium EV segment there's BMW iX, Kia ev6, Hyundai Ioniq. It's selling better than all of those.
For people who wonder how Chinese can do this car in 45K price point, this car is notorious for having super tiny brake calipers with an over-sized brembo clamp. This Max version was put to the test in a race track in China. The brake failed after a couple of laps, and the test vehicle just went off track and crashed around a corner. The car that broke the nürburgring record is a modified race car with a cage, gauge cluster and then everything else gutted. It's like saying the Yaris GR and Yaris WRC is the same car which isn't true at all.
Dude, they used a non professional race car doing professional race car things. The driver admitted pusing the brake over its capability. It's not even a race level brake pad they were using, just stock pads, which can melt very fast on the track. Here is the video btw, since OP only care to tell his side of the story. th-cam.com/video/3fowjSB4vOo/w-d-xo.html
@@The-World-Atlas I do agree that it isn't a professional race car. However, the car does have a 0-100 speed of 2.78s, 673ps of power, 265km/h spec which on paper is better than Taycan 4S at 3.7s, 536ps and 250km/h (which does market as being track ready), you can't just tell people to not drive it on the track...right?
@@BasicYTUser Bro if you have ever been involved in motorsports, you will know it's basic to modify the brakes and suspension before racing. Everyone does it, except supercar owners. You can't just buy a $40,000 family sedan and start racing right away. And you're talking about a $130,000 shiny Porsche. Anyone involved in racing should be tested for common sense.
@@lewismay5909 I agree as well. I didn't made the comparison between Porsche and Xiaomi - they did. Thing is, Chinese automakers, esp. those without a lot of experience in making cars, just market a product that goes fast but skim on parts that doesn't one-up other brands. Xiaomi remark in their keynote saying SU7 is a giant killer to luxury cars in the 1M CNY range th-cam.com/video/Jkj2NFyxv1E/w-d-xo.htmlsi=NeBrZZ79CE5w2ksv&t=2253 and THEN used Taycan Turbo as a head-to-head comparison. They also showed the stock car in a drag race, race tracks, and then drifting in the mountains. It's absolutely disingenuous to do all this and then argue people are using the car wrong thus brake pad fails.
@@BasicYTUser This is not “disingenuous”. Any family vehicle , if not a supercar, needs to be modified when it comes to racing. It's common sense. If someone dies because of lack of common sense, let him. Simple as that: Idiots stay away from racing.
11:21 I hate that I love the physical buttons accessory. I feel like an old timer who is given a jitter bug because I can’t figure out a regular cell phone.
Because Apple and Samsung want to make money only, not think about innovation. Even Samsung is better since they make TVs and fridges. Apple just makes phones and laptops. Apple cannot even make a TV, yet diehard Apple fans boast about their camera and picture quality... SMH.
We don't know the actual numbers, china is known for lying and deception. Xiaomi is most likely several billions in debt and without chinese goverment it would not survive.
Americans are too blinded by their hatred for China that they literally justify the absurd prices US companies charge. Meanwhile the CEOs make millions upon millions and the average American is drowning in debt and inflation. It’s such a backwards mentality that I’m actually concerned for the sanity of these types of people.
the main reason that Xiaomi is not selling this car outside of China is they don't have the production capability to make this car fast enough to meet even domestic demand. if you want to buy this car today, you have to wait for about 4 months before your car is built. let this sink in: this is the first car by Xiaomi, which is already shipping 20000 cars per month, and there is still a 4 months worth of backlog. Xiaomi decided to make cars because Apple saw future in cars for consumer electronics companies and Xiaomi wanted to compete to Apple. it was utterly perplexing for Xiaomi that Apple gave up.😂
@@Dapicomp I can tell you’ve never been to china or outside North America. The production capacity in china is insane! They can easily service the global demand as they have been doing with everything else.
@SouthAh well, pal, your assessment that China has massive production capacity IS correct. however Xiaomi is a newcomer in the car business so IT doesn't have the capacity YET, and in fact I do live in China and I did buy the SU7 and I did wait over 4 months to get mine and I do love it. :) so all I'm saying is, the rest of the world would probably need to wait a while to get their hands on a Xiaomi car. the US, with its tarrifs,would wait longer but the Europeans might get them in 3 years, as Lei Jun publicly said that Xiaomi would focus on getting the cars "right" first and is not planning on selling cars abroad within 3 years.
That color is so cool. Love seeing something besides white, gray, black silver. This thing looks great and is fast as hell. You can def see the design “steals” from the Porsche headlights and the Tesla charge port door.
Or it’s just a cool car and he had the opportunity to review. At the end he’s a car review channel and if they bring him a car to review instead of him having to travel to review it, why not?
Did you say $40,000 to $45,000? No wonder why they’re not on sale in the USA, they would destroy the competition
That’s what the U.S. is afraid of
Killing auto sales in the states because of foreign competition
Like the Japanese back in the 60s-90s
Oh but they say it’s privacy and protection for our interests 🙄
Japan and Germany are doomed
@@BOB24502 it starts around 30K, this version is around 40K and than there's top version for 45K.
You think only US have teriffs? Asia's tariffs are on the next level. For example, cost of Toyota Camry in pakistan is 107K USD and 70K USD in India.
I'm from Singapore and here Toyota Camry costs 160K USD.
Americans don't even know what real tariffs are 😂
It would have an impact for sure. Worth noting that one, it would cost more than that here & not by just a few bucks. And two, that China price ... they're currently selling it at a loss. They're estimated to be losing about $10k per vehicle.
That option for physical controls is something EVERY manufacturer needs to offer.
I am honestly amazed no one else has invented this before - GENIUS 👌
Should be standard and glass should be optional.
for real bro, FU*K giant screen with no buttons, and fu*k digital clusters.
No, should be standard. As long as people have hands and fingers there needs to be physical controls. The inundation of screens in cars for things like HVAC, etc. is SOLELY due to cost cutting, period. They just somehow convinced normies that the screens and tablets are "premium". Shouldn't have to pay even MORE money to companies for a car DLC package.
Mercedes actually has that in some models - if you opt for the smaller center screen, it comes with buttons beneath
The physical button add-on is a great idea
The US brands will "innovate it" in a decade
I really like that addition, it doesn't seem that expensive to make.
Would rather they just include physical controls stock but definitely better than nothing
@@ghoulbuster1yep, and it gives the user a choice. For us button people it's great, and if you don't care about swiping and taping a screen all the time then you don't have to buy it.
Great idea.
Looks wobbly
Very impressive! 38-year Ford employee here. As I understand it, Jim Farley wants Ford to get back to making a sedan(s), so now makes a little more sense why Farley has been driving one of these.
is this true? i could weep from joy. making cars again instead of exclusively giant suv’s and trucks? 🥹
@@finncedar7388 I don't have access to future product planning, but I have been told we have a compact EV sedan in the pipeline.
@@finncedar7388At a recent Ford dealer meeting, they were shown an affordable sedan based on Ford's upcoming CE1 platform, as well as a mustang sedan. So not just one sedan, but two.
Ford's CEO when asked about making a sedan in the Smoking Tire podcast was saying "Well if we do make one, it's gonna look, feel, and smell a lot different than the other sedans". He cited the BMW 2002 and the original fiesta as being examples of the kinds of character filled cars Ford should offer if they end up making sedans.
@@finncedar7388He's said hatchbacks and sedans are the perfect kind of areo dynamic shape if you want to do a smaller, more affordable EV.
38 years in Ford? Respect, Ford also launched some interesting vehicles here in China recently years, I'm currently driving a Toyota Avalon, and maybe my next vehicle will be a Ford
Xiaomi presented the car for a few days in Paris and I had the chance to go see it. Here's a few quirks that were shown to me by the staff that Doug didn't mention:
● There's a rear spoiler that lifts up in sport mode.
● The frunk is hermetically sealed, and the marketers were bragging about how you could fill it with water and ice to keep stuff cool. The little circles that you see at 16:43 are drain plugs to empty it once you're done.
● The car has voice recognition (like many others) but if you have Xiaomi smart home gadgets you can ask the car to turn off the lights or turn on the heater even when no one is home
Do you think their investment on this will return? The concept is very cool, most especially controlling your home devices from a car just in case you forgot and are already on the way or in jam.
@boxoffisa I think the market in China is so big that they are probably already making big profits from home sales. In Europe the buzz around EVs has also started dying off though, and SU7 sales are only going to start in March 2025. I've seen a couple BYDs around but I think MG might be the only chinese car company that stays in Europe, mainly because they're building a new factory in Spain to escape the tariffs
Super cool wish we could get it in the states
@@alexbakalov281
Thank you for sharing
The washable trunk would sell well for the mob.
2019 Doug never would have showed us a switch that raises and lowers the suspension without showing an exterior shot of the car going up and down
Let's not bring up the extended Doug score breakdown
@@lucasmartinez4248not so for FIAT cars.
People used to consistently complain that shots like this were repetitive, since I showed them so frequently, so I stopped showing them every time. I do still show suspension raising and lowering sometimes, but not every time, to try and address these complaints. But then I get *this* complaint, so...
It’s a tough one not gunna lie. You can’t make everyone happy online. He does a good job showing us most things but I do miss the old days when he would show us literally everything
@@DougDeMuro With your recent LTT collab, is a Floatplane channel in your future, for all theses "extras" that some people complain about?
If you switch the Xiaomi logo with a Porsche. You can literally sell this car for 120k and people would still think it is a good deal
true but then you would also expect it not to have issues and break down. That's the biggest risk with a tech heavy car. it's an amazing value if the reliability is there
Except it would never pass the dozen or so "safety standards" that the Porsche does. And reliability is a total unknown in any Chinese EV.
@@Williestyle-RobotechxMacross-x time will be show us how reliable su7. overall this car looks legit, i think at that price it is a banger
@@gregmccauley1687 it is the first gen and it hasn't been in production for even 1 year yet, so I believe once they get to their 3rd or 4th yearly revision, they will be a lot better with the problems. There's not even enough time to know all the problems yet
@@gregmccauley1687About that... Taycan burnt down parking in a outdoor parking lot just this year's summer.
Having used Xiaomi phones and other items for around 6 years now I can confidently say that they make good quality products.
look up the faults they have had in china XD
After two Xiaomi phones I think I will wait until I can drop money on their cars. It's easier to put 400$ on a phone than 40 grand on a car.
I completely agree. I have a Xiaomi monitor light bar and a screwdriver set and they are both top in class quality at a lower price.
Nah
Dun Trust phone Mfg with their cars
Media Event SENT Them OFF Track Into the Barriers
DAMN JOKE
Would you buy a Xiaomi EV, provided nobody knows if they're safe?
Worth mentioning Xiaomi still makes phones, laptops and smart home devices all in an advanced ecosystem and this is the brands FIRST car, making this extra impressive.
Also worth mentioning that the car’s brakes are terrible, look up ‘SU7 track crash’ on youtube
It's probably scaring the hell out of major manufacturers, honestly. It's genuinely insane that they did this good of a job on their first go.
Also worth mentioning that the whole ecosystem of Xiaomi Internet of things can be accessed from the car. Wanna turn on your Xiaomi lights or set the climate at home? You can do it from your car.
everything xiaomi makes is good, and well built
who wants a jack of all trades master of none?
Those gopro mounts are a great example of what happens when engineers are allowed to make decisions on product features.
also, those under the rear seat storage compartments look just the right size for a compact umbrella, which is probably their intended purpose(either that or for taking off your shoes)...some European cars had a slot in the door for an umbrella, and this must have been Xiaomi's solution.
Not really. These feature ideas can come from anyone. Typically designers, who are not engineers. The engineers make what designers possible, although sometimes these are the same person.
The product manager ultimately has responsibility over what is included. They can axe any feature or demand features be added. There can be several product managers responsible for different portions of a vehicle that all report to a product leader who decides if they are meeting profitability goals.
@@garythecyclingnerd6219 I get the feeling you're speaking from theoretical knowledge rather than practical.
The idea that the product manager has the final say is a fallacy and I saw that from having been a PM for years.
Any seasoned PM will tell you that they are facilitators rather than dictators.
They are constantly outranked by heads of departments pushing their own agendas and my comment was pointed at the fact that a gopro mount is the solution to a problem nobody has. That's typical of engineers being allowed to lead decisions (a weak PM will allow that or office politics may mean engineering has a bigger role than it should).
Either way my comment was more tongue in cheek than a serious response.
The comment about these being phone mounts makes more sense. Certainly beat the vent clip-ons. In fact, accessary mounting points can be for anything. not limited to just phones or gopros.
@ No, I am speaking from experience working as a design engineer in multiple Fortune 500 companies.
If your VP or senior manager is pulling rank on you, then that is their prerogative. Typically I only saw those guys focusing on profitability/margin of the product the PM was envisioning.
They would also ensure that PMs are hitting goals as defined in the product development plans.
I have pitched ideas to senior leadership, even had some developed before doing so. I also push back from the PMs (especially if they’re under marketing) for ideas that are difficult to manufacture.
But the idea engineers have that much power I find to be absurd. Especially the larger the business, the lower the the influence any engineer can have.
Ah yes, The Xiaomi Sukhoi 7 fighter jet.
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@aleksandr_elkov there is a SU7 as well
@ 🤷♂️
As an aircraft nerd that's the first thing that popped into my mind upon hearing the name
@ me too
This car would kill all EV cars in North America. I would buy it instantly. The styling, and price point alone craps all over Tesla.
Chinese EV brands get massive subsidies from the CCP. But now as the market is evaporating here in China, the government is pulling some of their support and EV brands are folding rapidly. Xiaomi can weather the storm for longer as this isn't their core business but still, buyer beware.
@@DaGoook Yeah america would never subsidize Teslas by giving americans free money (7500) to buy a car. America would never do that bro.
@@johnc1873 Not all subsidies all the same my guy. Yes Uncle Sam gives consumers credits and subsidizes charging infrastructure etc. (probably soon to stop under Trump), which is a far cry from the CCP directly paying manufacturers to produce them. Now they are scrambling to sell to Europe as the market here in China is completely flooded and EV makers are laying off people left and right.
@@DaGoookUSA did the exact same thing bro..
@@johnc1873 was that 7500 only for Tesla?
That control panel option is genius. Let's hope other manufacturers copy it.
the other Chinese manufacturers already did
And it's from a tech company lol
And now we copy them:)
Exactly. Your Americans think Chinese copy everything and now you're copying them...
Only if it's a hardware connection and not Bluetooth.
So this is why the US wants to tariff these chinese ev’s
of course. dirt cheap products made through practical slave labor, with stolen technology, that no nation with domestic companies that pay living wages could ever possibly compete with...they _should_ be tariffed.
@@paulusjosef And EU too
@@miguelangelo9536 Any market that has native manufacturers wants to protect them, but every market that doesn't have native car manufacturing, like Australia, South America, and Africa is going to love the new Chinese cars.
These Chinese EVs will kill the industry. But they're still crap. Just cheap crap.
@@miguelangelo9536 unless EU really does care about standards especially quality and safety, that's why the tariffs are actually test-based not country of origin-based
I just got back from my China Christmas trip, got to sit in a few of these and other Chinese branded electric cars, I can see why they aren’t allowed to be sold here in the US, it’s not about the safety or anything because they’re sold in Europe and other parts of the world as well. If they allowed these cars here, it would bankrupt all the American automakers cause they are better quality, better styling, more modern, more performance at a way better price point, basically US protecting their brands which is not very free-market capitalism if you ask me
@@JKnationTV it has never been free market. Free trade has never existed. There has always been tariffs protecting some sectors in every country. Try importing rice in Japan and see how much the tariffs are. Try importing corn ethanol into the U.S. and see how much the tariffs are. Try importing any food stuffs into the EU and see how much the tariffs are.
Better styling is debatable but these ev definitely are bang for bucks
@@lambolim2178just go see some brands like Avatar, Zeekr, Li Auto and so on, they have good designers from all around the world. So some of those car's styling is not behind anymore.
@@lambolim2178 Yeah, better styling part is perplexing. This looks like a Chinese copy of a Tesla and as much as I dislike the latter I think it looks far better.
I've been to China couple times this year. I completely agree. Chinese EV's are far superior than anything US has, including Tesla. They said the EV will bring a new level playground for vehicle manufacturing. It truly is.
Chinese cars are really taking off here in Australia and quite frankly they are great.
#MoveToCanada #MoveToCanada
Support the great dictatorship.
@@mcpluttPhillipines doesn't make cars😂
@@JonySmith-bb4gx ok....
Wait A few Years n Watch ALL the PROBLEMS Surface
At least 8 to 10 yrs would be good
STILL TOO SOON
Looks like a taycan and a 720s had a baby...
And in china known to perform like you fed the baby lead paint chips.
I see it
🤣I can't unsee that anymore!
looks like there is a better performance for money value than the overrated ioniq 5 N
Looks like a Tycan in 240p
Sooo.. Xiaomi can make a car and kill it on the first try? No awful panel gaps, horrible paint jobs and other new manufacturer occurrences that the likes of Tesla struggled through? AND it's affordable? Well damn, well done.
Because it’s basically had billions and billions and billions pumped into it by the Chinese government. I have absolutely no doubt that they reverse engineered Tesla’s and other vehicles to look at how they’re built etc. Tesla had almost nothing to go on initially and was totally not-funded by the US government.
That’s the difference.
problem is tariffs. Trump would basically force the company to move to the US. Which if they can great on them they'll definently bring some competition. If not then they'd have to suffer with the tariffs and if they chose to sell to the US your looking at those cars being 70 to 80k
They got help from a car maker ffs, don’t believe these lies.
@@bwofficial1776 keep lying, shill.
They've been manufacturing well designed and well made household appliances for a long time, so the step up to an EV (which is also in many ways an appliance) was probably not that difficult.
They will never let these cars to be sold here it would be the death of the US auto industry
Totally agree. Instead we get to drive teslas with a single screen, no stalks, no gear selector , no physical buttons.
The death of Tesla.
I wish they did. Consumers deserves choices. Let the market decide if other manufacturers go out of business. If they don't want to, then they need to figure that out. The high governmental tariffs (and basically banning these) are basically them helping the other manufacturers stay afloat. Stupid in my mind.
Not so fast. These have deadly QC issues, primarily the brakes failing.
@@jeffs6090 Ah, free enterprise capitalism is only so when it's advantageous, but when threatened, we get corporate welfare.
If you think this xiaomi car is impressive, then you should see the Huawei, zeeker, and avatr cars they have in China. Absolutely beautiful!
#MoveToCanada
Beautiful is about the last word that comes to mind.
@@kbk9535 god, china haters are so pathetic. just admit they make good cars ffs, the biggest car manufacturer is Chinese and China produced the majority of EVs last year. people are buying them for a reason
The radar assist is actual Lidar, that's why its mounted like that.
In US and Europe they didn't event hear about the technologies are used in China, which is differnet planet in terms of hi-tech. In China drivers can sleep while car is driving itself using that "cab like" lidars on the top.
Nappa leather, fridge, 600+ horese power, top technologies for $45. Well, you could pay $250 for Maybach or Porsche and get all that if you want to avoid chinese cars🤷♀😁
We have lidar, it’s just expensive for car companies to mount it
@@ivanmatvienko1018 But how's the long term quality? Looking good on a showroom floor isn't the same as after a few years of hard ownership.
@@WowCreativeUsernamequality and longevity is not something current USA or EU cars are famous for ATM, so the bar isn't that high for anyone to meet
@@ivanmatvienko1018 I don't know about sleeping inside a car.
Xiaomi did what Apple failed to do
And Sony (Afeela)
Next time if you like Apple just because it is the richest company and is affiliated with iPhone, you should seriously reconsider
I'm watching this Xiaomi car review on my Xiaomi 12T phone.😂
@@safwan4751No, apple has the best products. Most reliable. Only samsung can win but still iphone is more reliable. Mac is the best pc you can buy (i think still).
BYD did that (the apple car)
Fun Fact: Xiaomi is often referred to as "Apple of China". Apple's car program (project Titan) was in development for a decade, but it was canceled in 2024.
Meanwhile Xiaomi announced their EV program in March 2021 and delivered 1st production vehicle in 2024. As of November 2024, they have already rolled out 100,000+ Xiaomi SU7s
But still IpHonE iZ BettER
But still the Apple is the most valuable company ever.
Doug is the type of guy who has been in the car business for many years but still doesn’t understand the cost of labor in China vs the USA.
@@Notfiveo0 actually the labor cost is only a small portion in the entire cost structure considering massive usage of robots among China's car manufacturers.
@ Forgot about that. CEO’s high salaries probably make up for it.
This car is better and cost like 1/3rd. if only I can get after sale support in the USA, I would still buy it even with 100% markup. 100% markup is still cheaper than it's competition by 1/3rd.
the total tariff is 102.5% to be exact. also because of "national security threat" claimed by the US government, you just CAN'T get it approved commercially to be road legal in the US even if you would pay that tariff... you can only import it individually as "exotic" or as "a research subject" as the Ford CEO did...
Even Ford CEO loves it😂😂
@@bleeksalt7796 even ford ceo knows hus brands cars are too expensive to buy lol...
So why do you have a chinese ip adress?
I mean it's true, he literally brought one over and drives it to work, he was on a podcast literally raving how good it was.
He loves it because he knows it's not super expensive like his brands cars
@@GothPaoki You should watch/listen to the podcast, it's more than just value for money, its also about innovation. Don't sleep on the Chinese cars, it's going to lead the US auto industry to ruin to assume it's just because they are cheap.
As an American that has lived in Shanghai, China since 2012, China as a whole is far better than most people think. It isn't perfect, but it is getting better. Also, would like to point out that 45k USD is expensive for China. You can buy brand new cars here for 10-15k USD.
The world does not need china. Let them buy their own cars. I won't.
@RussOlson-pl3kf Depends on the province you're in. Some parts of China look like the future and some others are way underdeveloped.
Then go back and stay there
@@MrBrno is alaska developed?
Shanghai's golden age is long over. Economy is garbage now and consumer spending down a ton with salaries being cut in every industry. Sure China is better than the average American thinks but Shanghai is in no way representative of China.
Doug’s the kind of father that would read a owners manual to his kids bedtime story.
And he'd do enough facial expressions and voices to make it sound like an epic tale
@@WT83 😅😅yes indeed
I own a few of their phones. Theyre amazing
Xiaomi phones are the biggest garbage ever.
After seeing this I’m fully convinced that the Chinese are number one at information gathering. They’ve taken EVERYTHING good about many cars, that steering wheel is absolutely R8 inspired, and the price point for performance is crazy good.
I stopped being so ignorant about quality when i started using Milwaukee tools, the Chinese make great stuff.
China offer cheap stuff and expensive stuff, if u pay cheap u get cheap, it just that simple. China has temu which mostly provice cheap stuff but in the meantime most of amazon stuff are just rebrand from chinese stuff.
Well I do agree on the information gathering. This car will watch your every move and send it on to Uncle Xi.
China has ALWAYS made the best quality stuff on earth. Its just cheap and non-quality people expect great things at low prices.
@@johnc1873 You must love being hyperbolic.
@@DaGoook not really. Just look at chiense cities. Chinese cities are the most modern and cleanest, best infrastrcure in the world and by far. its Tier 3 citieis make americas best cities look like 3rd world countries.
The Max is the Mid, in the same way that the popcorn at a theatre comes in large, giant and ultra.
don't forget the biggest size of popcorn... swimming pool...
Tall, Grande, and Venti
@@googleislame Only if you're into bad coffee at exorbitant prices - LOL
Bro Xiaomi used to be a phone, now it’s an entire laptop
Now its a laptop with wheels
So thats why Apple tried to make a car 🤔
@@1dayumay548 I swear thus company makes everything
xiaomi is the everything company in China. They literally do everything. from tooth bushes to cars.
Same as Hyundai they build ships , and thousands of other products
Interior quality is amazing 👍🏾. Seats look great. Looks comfortable too.
“Interior quality is amazing” isn’t that a statement appropriate for a car that has been trialed and tested for years and not a new car? See what’s wrong with the world. Cart before the horse mentality.
Xiaomi makes almost everything tech related
Honestly, if any Chinese company starts manufacturing/getting into the industry of chip-fabrication, I feel like it'd probably be Xiaomi.
Insane home automation product range
Not as much as hitachi. If you know, you know 🤭
Incomplete statement, they make tech and non-tech, they make umbrellas and similar non-tech gadgets.
@@solitivityActually, it's not xiaomi it's huawei. Yes the company trump says is a national threat 😂now you see why. Xiaomi however, is still a company lack of innovation especially compares to huawei for many Chinese 😢
Apple spent 10b on an iCar and got nothing. These guys did it. Kudos.
Tim Cook must go.
Apple haven't had an innovative product since LITERALLY the 1980s. If you expected them to deliver on promises you're simply historically ignorant of the brand
Apple screwed up they should have put our an iPhone on wheels by now.
@@wizardmotoUh, iPod? iPad? iMac? Can’t deny each of those was highly innovative and changed the market, even if you didn’t buy one. I’m not a huge Apple fanboy, but they absolutely had innovative products clear through the early 2000s, though I’d agree their stuff now and the last several years is pretty mid.
@@wizardmoto Literally? Are you too ignorant to understand that the reason for your smartphone today is the iPhone?
Starting to see why Xiaomi isn’t legal in the U.S. it’s simply competition
Well when you use slave labor to assemble your cars... And they don't pass NHTSA...
@@technom3598where did you get that information from?
They’re fully funded by the CCP
@@jaimeramirez6407 They've never been tested but with the way the seat folded like a gaming chair in that brake failure crash, I doubt the rest of the car is built any better.
@@jaimeramirez6407 is that a serious question? Have you not heard of uighurs? Time for you to get off TH-cam and do some homework…China is all about that forced labor.
the Chinese creators of this car tell Doug how to pronounce the vehicle's name - Xiaomi SU7
Doug: YOU CAN CALL IT WHATEVER YOU WANT
Australia no longer has a car industry and boy, are we benefitting from Chinese imports.
Imagine if they made a Ute version of this 😂😂😂
su7 is coming next year May
And becoming dependent on them and losing all your own knowledge on building cars. Thank the great MBA managers for doing the only thing they know - cost cutting.😂
I don't mean to be silly but did Australia ever have a car industry?
@ yes, ever heard of Holden?
I live in China and I got mine in May. It’s an amazing car and there is so much more to it. You can also mount iPad with dedicated accessories in the back seats and connect it to the cars infotainment. And it also has very advanced self driving capability.
I can imagine Doug’s emotions when he sees the aito M9 and lixiang l9 or mega
@@zilent I think he will see AITO m9 soon because Forrest already did a review.
It's just a car. We don't need it.
@ you don’t know what’re missing
@@adinchina1 Are you missing?
23:15 "You do have to wonder, if the Chinese can make a car like this at this price point, why can't it be done in North America" Lmao come on Doug...
@@AtactHD why?
@@soyebaswat5382 maybe because labor and materials are considerably cheaper in China? Same story with the iPhones and pretty much everything else.
@@front_man001If slaves make it, the prices are to die for! 😂
@@front_man001 yes those things are true. But it's also because the Chinese have a full EV supply chain with top tier tech in every single component. We can't even buy EV batteries in the US.
@@front_man001 Check out the factory tour for this car's production. 80% fully automated bro. China ain't still living in the 2000's like the West.
The Su7 Max is a steal. 665hp for that low amount!!! They need to let us buy these cars in California. Doug score shoulda been higher tbh
If this was in thr US I will buy. For $45k USD it's a no brainer
Of course you would scab
It would cost more after shipping and tariffs more 80k lol
#MoveToCanada
No brainer until it starts breaking down.
@@Kryptonite-r9x All the luxury brands except Japanese Brands will start breaking down after several years, Land Rover, BMW, Mercedes, so people buying it just coz of the name or prestige, then that's even more no brainer.
Dude...a phone company made a car in about 10 years since it's founding is mind-blowing
Looking forward to that new Ford F-150 phone.
When a country steals everything, no wonder they had a head-start on R&D. They stole it from everyone else and didn't have the decency to not make their car look like a knockoff Taycan.
Yeah technology is crazy now
@@benjaminrobinson3842 God imagine that. Could you even conceive how bad a Chevrolet phone would be?
Because of alot of stolen IP from western countries
Just an FYI, Xiaomi does not only produce smartphones. It was their main market, but now they do produce A LOT of different home appliances usually really cheap and good ones.
Now I’m curious about how the Ford CEO imported, titled, and licensed this car. I’m not surprised that he was able to do it, but I’m curious about the logistics.
Edit: Jim Farley said it was flown in from Shanghai to Chicago, so it did not go through Mexico.
It’s probably a show car or it came from Mexico
Manufacturers are able to get them conditionally for testing and comparison to their own models, probably related to that pathway and unfortunately I have no knowledge of that process.
It probably was built in Mexico. Possibly using a manufacturer plate to avoid registering it
It came from Mexico like the other guy who brought Scania
@@jjunture well the logistics can't be that much more expensive than what ford sells their cars and CEO probably knew it ..
No wonder Elon was super worried about Chinese competition. This would destroy tesla.
And everyone would flock to this when they see the Whistlin diesel review where it actually survives more than one door slam.
@@YuriTheFriendlyRussian Tesla has not bad market share in China. Chinese people like Tesla very much…
@@mastertrend4685 just tell much who actually has the free trade and who dont
@@nagi-springfield93 Nobody has free trade. Tesla had to setup manufacturing IN China to gain access to their market. I'd like to see Chinese brand/design cars sold in the US as long as the rules are the same i.e. they are manufactured IN the US.
I've been hearing this for the entire time Tesla has existed.
The CEO of Ford drove one of these for weeks. He didn't want to let it go.
He quit and works as a taxi driver in Shanghai now.
Try 6 months.
We all know we all heard him say it at the beginning of the video
Not to mention the news that he said that went extremely viral on every social platform
Talk about discovering that water is wet
@@Rapido20 Then you weren't watching the very video where Jim Farley made his admission. Talk about accepting inaccuracies.
I read that when he was discussing this car with his senior management team in the USA he said "there's only two problems with this car - "it's too good and it's too cheap..."
I still remember the first thing I bought off Ali Express was a pair of $10 Xiaomi earbuds and I just could not get over the fact that they were TOASTING my $100 Sennheisers in performance (this was back when $100 was a lot of money for earbuds). I bet this is a bit like that vs Tesla.
It is indeed. It also connects to all you Xiaomi smart devices meaning you could tell your car to open the curtains and turn up the heat and decant a bottle of wine in your apartment while on your ride home..the phone mirroring tech in the car is crazy.
Doug is the type of guy to literally fart in a brand new car 20:43 and be proud enough to upload it
💀💀💀
Lol. I watched it numerous times I'm 99% certain that it indeed was a fart.
@@John_Locke_108 - LOL... He did pause....
We all have gas that creeps out.
Not the first time either
Surprised American buyers by MSRP in 40K range lol just how ridiculous new car prices are in US today
it would cost 100k easily if manufactured by western standards and safety requirements. i wouldnt sit in one of these.
@ true but prices got out of control, even when counting for inflation. Literally X2& some, in last 25 years.
@@guguigugu Exactly what I think most people are missing when they are dunking on the US market. Most Chinese domestic cars are incredibly cheap because of this.
@@guguigugu it’s cheaper because their production facility is way more efficient and fully automated and robotised and controlled by AI, and by not some low IQ fat lazy people begging more money for nothing :)
@@TheSeptu What's your opinion based on? Have you done any research on the Chinese car manufacturing market? Most of these types of responses are based on Media Conditioning, propaganda and pure Copium. Your government would not be trying to block these vehicles from the US market if they were inferior unsafe products. Lots of these Chinese car are on sale in Europe and their safety requirement are far more stringent than the US. The facts are whether you like it or not, the Chinese have won the EV race and will own the international Auto-market, like the also will almost every other markets, because they own almost every single Supply Chain and there is very little that the United States can do about that. That is the facts. If you're an honest guy, you do some genuine research.
When japanese brought their cars "Oh look at these tiny cars, they'll never capture the market" - then boom they captured the market.
When Korean brought their cars "Oh haha, look at these cheap cars, they'll never capture the market" - then boom they captured the market.
Now Chinese are bringing their cars, be ready as they capture the market. They've already started doing that in Asia and Africa.
This is how the lifecycle of companies goes. A company starts building a new innovative product, it gets popular and it captures market share. Then they forget how to innovate and the next generation of companies takes over. It happened so many times, in so many industries at this point it can be considered inevitable.
china will conquer worldwide with their companies
No worries we got tariff this time
The Chinese cars I drive in Africa sucked lol. All the other imports are better. They are neat but not made well
And Latin America
I don’t even like electric cars but this car is a Tesla killer way better interior more power more range at a cheaper price
I'm watching this while taking the high speed train to the northeast here in China. I have been very impressed with Chinese EVs! Some of them are super futuristic in cool and useful ways. All taxis are now EVs in Beijing where I currently live. This has made the air quality a lot better! I know the government pushes EVs very hard, and I know there are caveats to selling them in the US, but after seeing the minivan MKBHD reviewed in a short, I do have envy...
Kind of amazing, I just looked up this car after hearing about the CEO of Ford interview... and Doug releases a video about it 30 mins ago!
One thing I love about your review is you go indept into a product,with step to step photos.
Xiaomi makes everything and excel in everything they do. I’m glad I’m invested in the company.
Doug is the kind of guy that goes hunting for fortune cookies inside Chinese cars 😮
Doug is a type of a guy to wear sock over his head when raining
💀
@@edwardvalivonis23 His pelvis is extremely wide.
Doug is an honest man who reviews cars not politics.
3:33 'Curb weight is a little over 6000lb' Really? Google says 2205kg (4862lb) for the SU7 Max. That's a HUGE difference!!
That's the difference between Gross Vehicle Weight and Tare Weight.
2:55 Doug calling a car mid was not on my 2024 bingo list
When your mom says, "No, you can't have one. We already have a Taycan at home."
I bought the xiaomi max to replace my taycan 4s, taycan has too much range anxiouty and the infotament system is just lagging
Doug is the kind of guy to fart 💨 20:43 into the video. 😂
Luxury car quiet 😅
The only thing I would do in that car. Luckily I will never sit in such a car.
The screen-physical control thing is a great idea. Porsche is bringing back physical controls, but this would be a great compromise.
lol
I really want to see more reviews, not just from you but overall, of more Chinese car brands. It's so interesting to me that like 20 years ago, their best cars were basically rickshaws, and now they're competitive with some of our best.
I've had Xiaomi smartphones and they are great value for the money with a lot of performance.
Doug, the type of guy that just casually mentions a $45,000 BEV that goes “400-500 miles”. 😂
If it charged under 5 minutes, cheap and 500 miles range it’ll sell like a hot cake
@@chuckxu5910ur not far off. It’s reported charging 10%-80% in 12 minutes. Which would make it faster than Lucid, Macan and the Taycan. Not sure we have the chargers in the US to deliver that.
The fastest charging Chinese EVs can use up to 500kW charge rates, never dropping below 300kW. For comparison, the fastest charge rate for North American cars is around 350kW peak. It only takes about 10 minutes of charging between 300-500kW to fill a cars battery from 10-80%. You can plug one of those in, go grab a coffee and a donut, use the bathroom, and barely make it back in time to unplug before your car is charged. @@chuckxu5910
@@sdallnct Tesla's new super chargers can charge 350 kW which is 31% faster than the V3 super chargers. And has potential to charge a vehicle from 0-100% in under 10 minutes. Supports NACS, CCS1, CCS2, and GB/T. Now the problem is just building enough of them around the country. Tesla's done an amazing job with their charging network. These new V4 chargers will take a bit until you see a lot of em
@@chuckxu5910 five minutes is a lot to ask right now. Ten minutes is possible with tesla's new V4 Supercharger
0:16 the bug crawling out of the headlight 😂😂
We need Doug to review a F22 Raptor next
BYD next
to be honest, it's much better than Tesla vehicles.
if you ever use a Xiaomi product you would know they are the new Sony of China. All their product i own never fail. From fridge to TV to laptop to nail clippers. They built everything!
Try to find in us such cars as lixiang, zeekr, nio, yangwang or one of huawei brands(aito, stelato, luxeed). Very impressive cars
"lixiang, zeekr," - I agree, these are really cool cars. I am especially impressed by the Zeekr 001... Although, for daily use I would choose the LiXiang L9
By the time China cars get to North America the tariffs would make this a $100k car. I don't even think America would allow them to be sold no matter what. They know they would take over the market
That’s crazy, we have to pay double this amount if we want this much performance in a Domestic model.
That's because we have safety standards, labor laws, and intellectual property laws in the US.
@@bwofficial1776 protect your market share you mean but yeah ok.
@@nasosk4248 hes a blatant cia shill, no use arguing with a paid liar.
@@bwofficial1776 this car is designed per NCAP standards so it actually has stricter safety requirements than our FMVSS.
Go check out how much imports are taxed in china.
Looks pretty good. Like the colour combo. This is what we once dreamed of isn't it: futuristic, simple, stylish and clean vehicles but affordable. 👍
"Like other EVs it's relatively heavy"...but the Tesla M3 weighs the same as the BMW M3.
G90 is a hybrid
The model 3 was actually lighter than my v8 e93.
The model 3 is embarrassing garbage compared to this car.
The Model S Plaid is 200kg LIGHTER than the new M5.
The whole ‘EV’s are heavier’ argument is simply BS.
M3P 47K 10 second car = ICE is DEAD
The powerful voice assistant capability of this car has not been demonstrated. For example, you can quickly and continuously give 5 different commands, and it can execute them correctly one by one. In addition, there are some interesting small functions. When you are driving on the road, you can ask it what model of car is in front of you, and it can recognize it based on the front camera. At the same time, Xiaomi brand also has many IoT devices. Before you go home, you can tell it to turn on the air conditioning in advance, which can also be achieved
That attachment for the monitor is FKING genius. it's about damn time someone smart did that. thank god its a Chinese company, so no one else will ever get to have that .. oh wait.
A car with a built in refrigerator set a lap record at the nurburg ring... WHAT? I'm gonna assume that was not in the race version of this hahaha
The prototype driven on the Ring wasn't even remotely close to the production car. It had as much in common with the production version, as e.g. the Porsche 963 has in common with a 911 or whichever production Porsche you want to compare it to. The "SU7" on the ring had a central seat, and though claimed the fastest "4 door sedan", it didn't even have rear doors - at least not ones, that could be opened. It was a pure race car with a hull, that looked like the SU7 production car. A PR stunt, and almost nobody gets it. Still impressive, even for a pure prototype, though. Just nothing in common with the street SU7. Very very didifferent than the Taycans driven on the Ring, which all were almost production cars, only equipped with safety equipment like the saftey cage IIRC. And they were pre-production versions at least in one case, but they were what was to be the real car later. That "SU7" thing though has little, if anything, in common with what Doug tested here.
Nice to finally see more details on this. Looks pretty nice. I look forward to seeing what else they'll make in future.
1500 hp car for $45k, no wonder they wont let them sell in the US
Nan that one is like $120,000. This one is only 673HP
@203null he said the price was from 30k to 45k and that the one he has is 40k
@@TheYeahhfor this model depending on features, the high power version is different
@@TheYeahh No,this is 43k,ultra is 115k in China
@@203null yeah which is crazy. M3P is more expensive and slower, and even that offers great value when it comes price to performance
Yeah Xiaomi eco system is going to the next level
It can’t be done in North America because we have labor unions that demand their workers are paid a living wage. Also, nobody in America wants to work twelve hours a day for six days a week, which is the ideal embraced by many Chinese workers.
Japan is doing the same thing, China leaned from Japan, in China it’s called 996 meaning 9am to 9pm 6 days a week.
Those physical control buttons are awesome
Yeah USA not allowing a chinese brand to come and dominate their market. How surprisingggggg
So Chinese cell phone company builds an awesome electric car in 2.5 yrs. Apple tries for over a decade, spends BILLIONS and gives up. Tell me again why Apple is a 4 trillion dollar company?
Status, humans nowdays are moved by ego !
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People Worship & Idolize The Apple🍏 Brand🤤
Apple needs to be revamped. As organizations age there is bloat and metastasization of bad practices. I still think they make great products but at the current rate they've got less than a decade to reinvent themselves or they will go the way of blackberry.
because Apple:
- does not receive state subsidies from the government
- does not waste time on trifles and does not release a raw, low-quality, outdated product to the market
- because an Apple gadget is a polished engineering masterpiece, and a product from Xiaomi is something that was scraped together from around the world.
There's a brand from china called BYD(Build your Dreams) . It's taking over India in luxury EV segment. And honestly they look good and not cheap looking in anything anymore 😊
The local Volvo dealer here in the U.K. has started selling BYD. Their Seal is better looking than this.
There is not a brand from China called BYD... BYD is THE main brand in China and is aiming to be no1 wordlwide within the next 5 years!
@@MrDuncl volvo is owned by a Chinese brand too. Geely
I would not call selling just ten car a day as "taking over" 😂
@@AVB_42 read it properly. Don't argue without reading properly. I said in premium EV segment. In premium EV segment there's BMW iX, Kia ev6, Hyundai Ioniq. It's selling better than all of those.
I’m glad to see the doug reviewing chinese EVs.
FINALLY IVE BEEN WAITING SO LONG FOR THIS REVIEW
Doug the Woke Communists Comrade grifter‼️
For people who wonder how Chinese can do this car in 45K price point, this car is notorious for having super tiny brake calipers with an over-sized brembo clamp. This Max version was put to the test in a race track in China. The brake failed after a couple of laps, and the test vehicle just went off track and crashed around a corner. The car that broke the nürburgring record is a modified race car with a cage, gauge cluster and then everything else gutted. It's like saying the Yaris GR and Yaris WRC is the same car which isn't true at all.
Dude, they used a non professional race car doing professional race car things. The driver admitted pusing the brake over its capability. It's not even a race level brake pad they were using, just stock pads, which can melt very fast on the track.
Here is the video btw, since OP only care to tell his side of the story.
th-cam.com/video/3fowjSB4vOo/w-d-xo.html
@@The-World-Atlas I do agree that it isn't a professional race car. However, the car does have a 0-100 speed of 2.78s, 673ps of power, 265km/h spec which on paper is better than Taycan 4S at 3.7s, 536ps and 250km/h (which does market as being track ready), you can't just tell people to not drive it on the track...right?
@@BasicYTUser Bro if you have ever been involved in motorsports, you will know it's basic to modify the brakes and suspension before racing. Everyone does it, except supercar owners. You can't just buy a $40,000 family sedan and start racing right away. And you're talking about a $130,000 shiny Porsche. Anyone involved in racing should be tested for common sense.
@@lewismay5909 I agree as well. I didn't made the comparison between Porsche and Xiaomi - they did. Thing is, Chinese automakers, esp. those without a lot of experience in making cars, just market a product that goes fast but skim on parts that doesn't one-up other brands. Xiaomi remark in their keynote saying SU7 is a giant killer to luxury cars in the 1M CNY range th-cam.com/video/Jkj2NFyxv1E/w-d-xo.htmlsi=NeBrZZ79CE5w2ksv&t=2253 and THEN used Taycan Turbo as a head-to-head comparison. They also showed the stock car in a drag race, race tracks, and then drifting in the mountains. It's absolutely disingenuous to do all this and then argue people are using the car wrong thus brake pad fails.
@@BasicYTUser This is not “disingenuous”. Any family vehicle , if not a supercar, needs to be modified when it comes to racing. It's common sense. If someone dies because of lack of common sense, let him.
Simple as that: Idiots stay away from racing.
11:21 I hate that I love the physical buttons accessory. I feel like an old timer who is given a jitter bug because I can’t figure out a regular cell phone.
The car is so good that Ford CEO drives it. That should explain a lot.
The SU7 is also starting to get imported in many countries like Indonesia
This thing would SHAKE the US market
I got Xiaomi cellphone and electric shaver, I really like their products! Thank you for reviewing it.
The monthly sales of Xiaomai su7 in China have exceeded 23,000, and the total sales in nine months have exceeded 110,000
130k
Xaomi went from making phones to this.
Things what we expect from apple and Samsung.
Samsung used to make tanks for the Military
Samsung makes cars too
@@rafuyhhre4543 yeap they're the chinese sony they make everything from brooms to cars
Because Apple and Samsung want to make money only, not think about innovation. Even Samsung is better since they make TVs and fridges. Apple just makes phones and laptops. Apple cannot even make a TV, yet diehard Apple fans boast about their camera and picture quality... SMH.
Apple will price the same 30 000 usd car over 100 000 because of the apple logo
Didn't expect to associate 'bargain' and 'luxury' together, well done, Xiaomi.
The screen button add on is worth it alone. I like what they have done.
In Chinese words, the company name "小米" is meaning "tiny rice," yet the company's annual revenue in 2024 is over 37 billion US dollars.
小米 means millet, which is also a kind of grain, but it is not small rice.😂
We don't know the actual numbers, china is known for lying and deception. Xiaomi is most likely several billions in debt and without chinese goverment it would not survive.
China is the most technological advanced country in the world.
Tesla sell their cars in China with 40% discount. There is simpky too much competition there. Imagine US open ev car market...
Americans are too blinded by their hatred for China that they literally justify the absurd prices US companies charge. Meanwhile the CEOs make millions upon millions and the average American is drowning in debt and inflation. It’s such a backwards mentality that I’m actually concerned for the sanity of these types of people.
The CCP would push these on us for near nothing until our industry collapsed.
@@piorundip8705 Also 5 yrs 0% APR
more like Tesla has been ripping people off
the main reason that Xiaomi is not selling this car outside of China is they don't have the production capability to make this car fast enough to meet even domestic demand. if you want to buy this car today, you have to wait for about 4 months before your car is built.
let this sink in: this is the first car by Xiaomi, which is already shipping 20000 cars per month, and there is still a 4 months worth of backlog.
Xiaomi decided to make cars because Apple saw future in cars for consumer electronics companies and Xiaomi wanted to compete to Apple. it was utterly perplexing for Xiaomi that Apple gave up.😂
@@Dapicomp I can tell you’ve never been to china or outside North America. The production capacity in china is insane!
They can easily service the global demand as they have been doing with everything else.
@SouthAh well, pal, your assessment that China has massive production capacity IS correct. however Xiaomi is a newcomer in the car business so IT doesn't have the capacity YET, and in fact I do live in China and I did buy the SU7 and I did wait over 4 months to get mine and I do love it. :) so all I'm saying is, the rest of the world would probably need to wait a while to get their hands on a Xiaomi car. the US, with its tarrifs,would wait longer but the Europeans might get them in 3 years, as Lei Jun publicly said that Xiaomi would focus on getting the cars "right" first and is not planning on selling cars abroad within 3 years.
That color is so cool. Love seeing something besides white, gray, black silver. This thing looks great and is fast as hell. You can def see the design “steals” from the Porsche headlights and the Tesla charge port door.
Doug having to do reviews on cars that won't be sold in the US speaks to the sad state of the US auto industry.
Or it’s just a cool car and he had the opportunity to review. At the end he’s a car review channel and if they bring him a car to review instead of him having to travel to review it, why not?