They make the low end throttle response so much better. No more lag because of the cat. And of course the sound. If you go full system, be ready for very loud!
Hey! I own an 07 ZX6R. I just ordered in a full two brothers exhaust, headers, K&N air filter, and a power commander 3. Hoping to see if it makes a difference.
All Things Automotive just got into riding a couple of months ago, I have an R3 but I’m feeling like I’m comfortable with riding in general and the R6 has always been my dream bike. What year/mileage/price are you targeting brother?
@@distreser yeah an R6 is always good. I've had plenty of 1000s and bigger but always come back to the simple cheap fun of a 600. Normally when I buy I look for 2007 and higher for $6000 or less depending.
@@uncle_rick333 its no different than with a car. it destabilizes the balance of the bike. also holding the clutch in means if you hit a pothole or large bump it could make your hand slip, causing your rear tire to lock up (engine idling while rear wheel spinning fast) and crash. or if you need to make an evasive maneuver you wont have full control over once side of the handle bars. if you are one of those people that likes to call bullshit on everything, go ahead, but why dont you take your own motorcycle out and do the exact same thing real quick. Make sure to let the clutch lever snap while idling at high speed too, report back to me what happens
@@tylerfabish5578 i see the evasive maneuver point but all others dont effect you after a certain point, weather thats because i started riding when i was 4 or i learned the hard way over the years🤷🏻♂️ i was thinking you ment it was bad for the bike or something
Dude i have a track bike project, do you have any mod that i can put on my bike beside this Power Commander, Ive already put brembo brake, caliper, lever, etc, power commander, full system exhaust, carbon stuff, But i feel like it still lack power
Look on TH-cam for Outspokentiger. He has an R6 that he tuned to be really fast. Also could do an E85 fuel setup and get a little more power. And lastly, carbon fiber wheels make all the difference
That was a great video man I can't wait to see the full mod bed big difference I know but keep on keeping on my brother keep that shiny side up and dirty side down hammer down bro be easy👍👍👍👍👍👊👊
Thanks man I appreciate it. If you want to see the final result it's another video of mine, I think with the same name. Bike gain about a whole second i think with the exhaust and the power commander
Kept using all flat surfaces. But yeah, shaving time off each run. I've got a third run on video with full exhaust and powercommander. Bike goes even quicker in the same test
Let’s go to an animal crossing sign and go a 100 miles an hour 😂😂🦑 jk good video man would you recommend getting the power commander? I’ve been debating it
IF you didn't remove the o2 censor the PC didn't do nothing. It will revert back to stock settings with emission restrictions. Get block off plates and o2 censor dongles then the PC5 will do its thing
Some times a tune will richen up a mixture. When you do just an exhaust it can make the bike run a little lean, so helps make the Air/Fuel ratio better
What do power commanders do exactly? Im interested in getting a used bike ti start riding and theres a couple listings saying they have power commander 3/4 or what not..
So currently the new power commanders are up to version 5 or V. All they really do is adjust some throttle and fueling on the injectors. Better to spend the money on a full tune that can mess with timing. If a bike comes with it then great, but would pay more for a bike because of it
Got a 2012, I'm thinking about removing the cat when I put on my slip on (akra megaphone) would I need a retune to do that? Or only when I add a ypipe?
So to remove the cat, I would recommend a tune or at least a power commander. You could probably run it like that forever and not have a problem, but might as well get the hp increase to go with the open exhaust
Yes I can, going to be working with the power commander on my newest purchase of a 2007 R1. Should be positing some videos very soon and will go into detail about the power commander already in it
Downloaded maps from power commander and had my friend play with them a little. Nothing to extreme from what they had. Hope in the future to dyno tune.
@@frankh.3849 It didn't seem the fastest under 9000 rpms, but higher she comes alive. But my 2003 R6 is faster. Once I did straight pipe, it goes faster, those cats kill the power
@@lordofbiscuits1911 I bought mine used. I'm guessing it has upgrades. I'm still going to try the power commander. The DiabloSport tuner I installed on my Doge charger made one hell of a difference so I hope this is just as good. Thanks for the reply.
Hi your idle sounded rough - pulsing and rpm needle was twitching . On your first video after full exhaust setup but not before .. But on your second video I could not hear it.. How did you get your bike to idle smoothly.. Thanks
It was rather cold those first few starts, like 40 degrees. When she's cold idle is very up and down. Buy once the engine is warm it smooths out. Plus the power commander helped for the exhaust tune
I looked around online for a downloadable fuel map that matched my build. Then just simply installed the map on the power commander 5. Was easy and bike ran great, so just stuck with that
All Things Automotive I checked the power commander website and I only found a stock map with stock pipe to download. Any other sites? Can't afford a big brand pipe so I was going to go with a delkivic 8” mini. The z650 comes stock with a carolla muffler haha jk but really look at it. Here's the kit I think I want, pretty much straight pipe I think. Kawasaki Z650 Complete 2-1 Exhaust Mini 8" Stainless Steel Round Muffler 2017 www.amazon.com/dp/B0743JXSDD/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_N9kLCb2MBHJ5M
I would try getting on the forums for your bike and see if anyone has a map for the mods you have. If you ask around I'm sure someone will have one that works good. If not, some places you can send your ecu and they will flash tune
So I personally didn't pay anything because I did the install myself. If a shop did it, I would imagine close to $100 for install. Pretty easy to do it yourself if you can lift the tank up
If you want to make more low end power change your sprockets now that you have a power commander and slip on exhaust you will be happy my oldest son has a 2006 yamaha r6 i have a Suzuki GSX600F my older brother has a Suzuki GSXR750 my cousin has a kawasaki Zx6r and a good friend has a honda cbr600rr all fun bikes my bike is stock other than sprockets swap full exhaust and new air filters
@@karlo134652 can check your throttle assembly to see if its aftermarket, if it is then they sell different throttle pull amount pieces, if not then a power commander will greatly smooth out throttle response.
I intended to from the start but some time had passed between when I filmed those and I moved. So I had found similar flat areas to test so it could be close at least
If you are going to do a proper dyno tune, you won't need to buy a power commander. Save that money and get the proper tune done, better results. Power commander only adds fuel in places, tune will adjust timing, fuel trims, and factory restrictions
@@gooklogander7 completely agree, but to able to hear me on the video I can't have the rpms all the way up. Now if I was on a track and not on random city roads then yeah, going to be screaming
The neutral after the pull into the no blip reengagement was something
..dead give away 🤦🏾♂️
Just saying I legit own this bike now and she runs like a beaut!!! I will even send proof I now own it! Taking good care of her!
I’d like a full exhaust setup for mine. Power commander for sure
They make the low end throttle response so much better. No more lag because of the cat. And of course the sound. If you go full system, be ready for very loud!
Keep ur revs at 9000 rpm going from one gear to another.... these things fly.
when the tune lowers the temp by 1! gasssssssssssss lolol
Mike Driver 😂spent $400 to decrease the engine temp by 1 degree 🤔🤔... it can’t get better than that!😄😄
Hey! I own an 07 ZX6R. I just ordered in a full two brothers exhaust, headers, K&N air filter, and a power commander 3. Hoping to see if it makes a difference.
I'm sure it will. Should be a fun time. Helps throttle response and exhaust will sound great.
Please let us know how it goes and the results!! Thanks and lovely bike. Love thrm undertail exhaust
I had this set up but with Yoshimura I’m sellin my power commander 3 for a PC 5
What a great video, looking to get an R6 soon!
Yeah I've always loved them. Going to buy another one soon just because.
All Things Automotive just got into riding a couple of months ago, I have an R3 but I’m feeling like I’m comfortable with riding in general and the R6 has always been my dream bike. What year/mileage/price are you targeting brother?
@@distreser yeah an R6 is always good. I've had plenty of 1000s and bigger but always come back to the simple cheap fun of a 600. Normally when I buy I look for 2007 and higher for $6000 or less depending.
All Things Automotive thanks man, gonna watch some of your other vids now. Subbed, stay safe!
@@distreser Did you get one yet. I got my first street bike and its an R6 2008 model
stop pulling in your clutch and cruising with it pulled in. coast in gear or coast in neutral. preferrably in gear.
Why?
@@uncle_rick333 its no different than with a car. it destabilizes the balance of the bike. also holding the clutch in means if you hit a pothole or large bump it could make your hand slip, causing your rear tire to lock up (engine idling while rear wheel spinning fast) and crash. or if you need to make an evasive maneuver you wont have full control over once side of the handle bars. if you are one of those people that likes to call bullshit on everything, go ahead, but why dont you take your own motorcycle out and do the exact same thing real quick. Make sure to let the clutch lever snap while idling at high speed too, report back to me what happens
@@tylerfabish5578 i see the evasive maneuver point but all others dont effect you after a certain point, weather thats because i started riding when i was 4 or i learned the hard way over the years🤷🏻♂️ i was thinking you ment it was bad for the bike or something
You don’t have to use the clutch for all your shifts, just first to second, close the throttle shift up and go, no need for clutch
I've been practicing this since we have a slipper clutch. I've gotten so smooth with it!
lith gates yeah it gets easier, just shift above 7-8k if your going to, but males pulls so much easier
@@shawnlack1527 and it sounds so damn professional lol. I've found it's hard to do it unless giving more than 1/4 throttle.
Dude i have a track bike project, do you have any mod that i can put on my bike beside this Power Commander, Ive already put brembo brake, caliper, lever, etc, power commander, full system exhaust, carbon stuff, But i feel like it still lack power
Look on TH-cam for Outspokentiger. He has an R6 that he tuned to be really fast. Also could do an E85 fuel setup and get a little more power. And lastly, carbon fiber wheels make all the difference
@@lordofbiscuits1911 sorry if im late saying this to you, but thank you so much dude
@@kenny8343 anytime! I love bikes and enjoy helping anyone that wants to know more
The idle sound without pc sounded more raspy, probably from a leaner condition.
Yep, makes the bike run a bit lean when you go straight pipe. Need the power commander or a ecu tune to run it properly
Hi, please tell me, is the Power commander V yamaha r6 [2010-2016] model 22-031 suitable for my yamaha r6 2007 ?
That was a great video man I can't wait to see the full mod bed big difference I know but keep on keeping on my brother keep that shiny side up and dirty side down hammer down bro be easy👍👍👍👍👍👊👊
Thanks man I appreciate it. If you want to see the final result it's another video of mine, I think with the same name. Bike gain about a whole second i think with the exhaust and the power commander
@@lordofbiscuits1911 I just watched it and it's amazing man I like everything you did it sounds really mean and has a lot of spunk big thumbs up bro
@@roynelson7613 thank you. I really liked the way the bike finished. Now its time for me to get another
@@lordofbiscuits1911 oh hell yeah man build another one bro that would be awesome
@@roynelson7613 will do. Next one will be dyno tuned with cams. Perhaps try doing an e85 for the hell of it
Didn't run from the deer sign a 3rd time?
Definitely shaved a good half a second off on that 2nd run
Kept using all flat surfaces. But yeah, shaving time off each run. I've got a third run on video with full exhaust and powercommander. Bike goes even quicker in the same test
Let’s go to an animal crossing sign and go a 100 miles an hour 😂😂🦑 jk good video man would you recommend getting the power commander? I’ve been debating it
When we have a sportbike, we go fast wherever lol. But yes, for the money, I would buy a power commander for really any sportbike I was riding.
Just move the sign so the animals cross somewhere else.
Yes because they can recognize pictures of themselves lol
@@lordofbiscuits1911 they recognize pictures of themselves about as well as you recognize jokes 🤣
Did you remove the O2 sensor plug when installing the PCV?
Nope, new midpipe has the threads for the O2 sensor. Just screwed it in like normal and no check engine light
IF you didn't remove the o2 censor the PC didn't do nothing. It will revert back to stock settings with emission restrictions. Get block off plates and o2 censor dongles then the PC5 will do its thing
@@5upgunplay551 I’m ready to install a pc can u hit me for some advice
do you need a PC if the bike was ecu flashed and dyno tuned after installing full exhaust and air filter?
No, ecu flash does everything and more than the PC does. Got everything you need
@@lordofbiscuits1911 thanks for the info' even in a year old video you still reply, i appreciate it.
@@allnighterist no problem man, it's why I made these videos is to inform and help
whered you get the cover for the tank?
That's a factory cover.
Do you have a similar test with the Kawasaki Ninja 400?
Sadly no, I haven't ridden on yet. But I hear good things. But also with that small engine, not sure you will have the biggest gain.
"One thing I've noticed is that the tune made the bike run cooler it's at 169° when usally I'd be at 170°"
Hmmmmmmm okay?
Some times a tune will richen up a mixture. When you do just an exhaust it can make the bike run a little lean, so helps make the Air/Fuel ratio better
Lmaooo! my bike runs a different temperature everyday.
LOL
What do power commanders do exactly? Im interested in getting a used bike ti start riding and theres a couple listings saying they have power commander 3/4 or what not..
So currently the new power commanders are up to version 5 or V. All they really do is adjust some throttle and fueling on the injectors. Better to spend the money on a full tune that can mess with timing. If a bike comes with it then great, but would pay more for a bike because of it
Got a 2012, I'm thinking about removing the cat when I put on my slip on (akra megaphone) would I need a retune to do that? Or only when I add a ypipe?
So to remove the cat, I would recommend a tune or at least a power commander. You could probably run it like that forever and not have a problem, but might as well get the hp increase to go with the open exhaust
@@lordofbiscuits1911 Ah ok, thanks for the speedy reply 👍
Nice video brother. She seems to like the Power Commander! How long have you had her?
Had her for around 6 months now and love her. Power commander was worth the $300 and was super easy to install.
@@lordofbiscuits1911 A properly tuned engine is worth every penny spent. Nothing makes or breaks any engine more than the tuning aspect.
Fully agree. Best way to get some more safe horsepower of the engine and make it last longer.
Can you do a video about the working of power commander or what is a power commander?
Yes I can, going to be working with the power commander on my newest purchase of a 2007 R1. Should be positing some videos very soon and will go into detail about the power commander already in it
Very good video thanks!
Did you tune the bike professionally on a dyno? Or a download map for the power commander
Downloaded maps from power commander and had my friend play with them a little. Nothing to extreme from what they had. Hope in the future to dyno tune.
My 2006 R6 seems a lot faster and more aggressive than your bike with the commander and slip on
@@frankh.3849 It didn't seem the fastest under 9000 rpms, but higher she comes alive. But my 2003 R6 is faster. Once I did straight pipe, it goes faster, those cats kill the power
@@lordofbiscuits1911 I bought mine used. I'm guessing it has upgrades. I'm still going to try the power commander. The DiabloSport tuner I installed on my Doge charger made one hell of a difference so I hope this is just as good. Thanks for the reply.
@@frankh.3849 the power commanders definitely make a difference. I want to get the addon auto tune module, makes a great pair.
Hi your idle sounded rough - pulsing and rpm needle was twitching . On your first video after full exhaust setup but not before .. But on your second video I could not hear it.. How did you get your bike to idle smoothly.. Thanks
It was rather cold those first few starts, like 40 degrees. When she's cold idle is very up and down. Buy once the engine is warm it smooths out. Plus the power commander helped for the exhaust tune
Why didnt you do another pull from 3k to 14k with it tune?? Was it 8.9???
I did, it's the next video on my page. Think I compared all 3 times, bike got faster
How easy is it to tune without the auto tune?
I looked around online for a downloadable fuel map that matched my build. Then just simply installed the map on the power commander 5. Was easy and bike ran great, so just stuck with that
All Things Automotive I checked the power commander website and I only found a stock map with stock pipe to download. Any other sites? Can't afford a big brand pipe so I was going to go with a delkivic 8” mini. The z650 comes stock with a carolla muffler haha jk but really look at it. Here's the kit I think I want, pretty much straight pipe I think. Kawasaki Z650 Complete 2-1 Exhaust Mini 8" Stainless Steel Round Muffler 2017 www.amazon.com/dp/B0743JXSDD/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_N9kLCb2MBHJ5M
I would try getting on the forums for your bike and see if anyone has a map for the mods you have. If you ask around I'm sure someone will have one that works good. If not, some places you can send your ecu and they will flash tune
@@lordofbiscuits1911 figured that'd be my next option, thanks for all the feed back! if i figure out anything i will keep you posted
how much did you pay for the installation ?
So I personally didn't pay anything because I did the install myself. If a shop did it, I would imagine close to $100 for install. Pretty easy to do it yourself if you can lift the tank up
@@lordofbiscuits1911 bro thank you so much wish me luck i will try it myself
@@Kels14B it's pretty easy, TH-cam videos are your friend. Tons of videos on how to
If you want to make more low end power change your sprockets now that you have a power commander and slip on exhaust you will be happy my oldest son has a 2006 yamaha r6 i have a Suzuki GSX600F my older brother has a Suzuki GSXR750 my cousin has a kawasaki Zx6r and a good friend has a honda cbr600rr all fun bikes my bike is stock other than sprockets swap full exhaust and new air filters
Yeah ive done sprockets on many bikes, so much easier to make the bike quicker. Lose a little top end but I don't really run top speed much
Ola como vc configurou o seu tenho uma r6 do mesmo modelo
Is it normal for that much time chain noise on them revs?
It sounded fine to me, but I probably needed to lube the chain I'm sure
@@lordofbiscuits1911 I was just wondering, one of my bikes sounds a little worse then my other bit still has awesome power and no other issues.
@@getwrecked483 the only other thing perhaps the the engines chain tensioner, I know they are prone to going bad, that will make a bit of engine noise
Amazing video 👍🏾💯🇯🇲
dude my bike is throttle sensitive. will power comander fix that??
Maybe, they will definitely smooth out your throttle. But if you bought your bike used, it might have a 1/4 turn race throttle in it.
i bought my bike used, what should I do to smooth it out?
@@karlo134652 can check your throttle assembly to see if its aftermarket, if it is then they sell different throttle pull amount pieces, if not then a power commander will greatly smooth out throttle response.
All Things Automotive the more you know.... XD
Thanks a lot dude..
Did you have to take it on dyno after installing PC?
You don't have to. The PC5 only adds a little fueling nothing more.
@@lordofbiscuits1911 great videos man! I just deleted my cat on 2012 R6 and was contemplating on going with a PC. This definitely helps.
Yeah they are good, but if you're looking for better power and throttle response, a full dyno tune is by far superior
Cool vid.
Thanks! Wish I had a dyno to also do a before and after but this is real world street test
My guy, what kind of test is this? You didn't roll on at the deer sign so what's the point rlly
I intended to from the start but some time had passed between when I filmed those and I moved. So I had found similar flat areas to test so it could be close at least
“It seems to run the engine cooler from 169 from 170” 🤣
Great video
Thanks!
Which clutch and brake lever is that?
Those are you standard ebay levers. Around $20 and work great
lean mixture causes engine temperature to increase
Power commander DID seem to really wake her up though!
That it did. Probably not worth what it cost, if I'd do it again I would choose a full dyno tune. Much more gains to be had
Seen this bike before at clear springs by the bar not gonna put the town out there lol
Its possible. I sold it last year, but it's an easy bike to spot. I dont live there anymore, so good old nac lol
Dude I live in Nacogdoches, yall should come ride sometime
@@motorcycleislife8296 I would love to, but I just moved to Ft Worth. My buddy still lives there if you want me to link you up
do you happen to live by smithville tx
Nope, in the Dallas area
oh cool 1 degree difference
This sold me. Im buying a full aftermarket exhaust, power commander v, and pro dyno tune.
If you are going to do a proper dyno tune, you won't need to buy a power commander. Save that money and get the proper tune done, better results. Power commander only adds fuel in places, tune will adjust timing, fuel trims, and factory restrictions
Hey squidward 🤣🤣 nice video though but seriously don't ride bare arms man. It only takes one time and you'll regret it for life
good vid! just an fyi, it's compared...
how much ??
How much what?
A few hundred dollars, lots of work and a whole second faster. Wow
A second is a big improvement on a 600.
That is about 5 bike lengths if you were racing.
Every little bit helps
Send me your map for power commander
Its just the map from the power commander website for M4 exhaust with full systems
@@lordofbiscuits1911 yeah.. i think ive tryed it.. but it seems to fowl out my plugs after 3k miles
Might want to just get a custom tune at a dyno
Sorry but Gixxers sound better for a Supersport.
No they don't LOL.
Agreee
Yoshimura TRC slip on with power commander, thank me later
Rev thr thing over 8k holy fuck
I don't wanna. I do quiet a bit, just not on videos as much because its so loud
@@lordofbiscuits1911 literally all the powerful in these small i4's are up there tho
@@gooklogander7 completely agree, but to able to hear me on the video I can't have the rpms all the way up. Now if I was on a track and not on random city roads then yeah, going to be screaming
@@lordofbiscuits1911 you're smart lol. I've been street racing for 3 years and its nor worth it. I am alot safer these days however
Yeah I was a lot worse in my younger days. Earily 20s and I was unstoppable lol. Nowadays still ride fast and race, but not nearly as much
Well it ain't stock with those disgusting looking fairings.
Try not to come off as you have littke protection I.e arms etc otherwise informative
You have no arm protection holding that snake otherwise good comment
Get a KTM 1290. That machine of yours is stupid slow:(
Well yeah. A 1290 has twice the power and 3 times the torque. Of course it's faster.
Still slow
Perhaps lol
This dude don't know how to ride 😂