I own several grooveboxes from Korg, Roland, Elektron etc. To me the MC-707 is the best one, almost the perfect groovebox. Since firmware update 1.72 it also has an arpeggiator and scene-chaining (= song mode).
I'm looking for a groove box that is also a live looper I'm a scratch dj and want to hook my mixer up and have both options where I can drum a beat out live loop it then loop record in scratch s and build up tracks like that live , have you used any groove box that has this capabilities currently I'm thinking I need a groove box and a boss 505 to do what I want just wondering if there is anything that does both .....I have a machine mikro and even though this loop records its not quite right for a live performance
Hi Bo, I just recieved my unit yesterday and after playing with it for a few hours I have noticed a few additional things, 1. There is a lot of what appears to be classic JD/JV/XV sounds, going through the patch list a lot of familiar sounds come up from these range of classic synthesizers. 2. The synth engine not only has your generic waveshapes, but it also has a Supersaw osc... that means you can have 4 partials with a supersaw!!! Think massive detuned trance stabs. This is somewhat better than SuperNatural synth engine which was only 3 partials. 3. There are modeled filters, ie JP and modeled Juno Chorus. 4. This new synth engine allows almost 8x better resolution for sound editing, most synths follow the Midi CC of 128 steps ... this can be edited in steps of 1024. 5. There are 2 types of drum kits... Bank A = 16 hit sound kits (like the MC-808/909) or Bank B = 128 General MIDI sound kits (which I prefer) My first synthesizer was a Roland MC-303 back in 1998, and 20 years later this is by far one of the best bits of gear they have released (imo). Not only is it cutting edge Groovebox technology, it's an awesome sound module... I think I'll sell my Akai MPC Live now.
@@BoBeats Hi mate, yeah I really do like it, I'm a big fan of Ableton Live clip launch sequencing so this unit suits my recording style. I even appreciate in the sound library they have put all the 'synthesized' sounds at the top half of the menu, leaving all the acoustic sounds towards the bottom (these units are aimed towards electronic music after all). The Juno Chorus Multi-effect sounds bloody amazing even on a simple Saw osc, so lush. The one thing I cannot find yet is a metronome, although it's not hard to quickly insert a clip with a simple click track. Did you know in NOTE mode, in a drum track... if you hold MUTE or the SELECT button you can mute individual drum notes! I'm sure it's in the manual somewhere. lol :) And the icing on the cake, I can select any of the 8 channels from my midi keyboard and use it as a multitimbral device, something which really, REALLY annoyed me about the MPC Live.
@@BoBeats Using the MC-707 as just a stand-alone synth doesn't do it justice... hook it up to a midi keyboard and expand its sonic capabilities. I know some people have complained about the lack of an arpeggiator, but most keyboard controllers have that feature anyway. It's not a deal-breaker, plus it receives a lot more standard midi CC than it transmits. To be honest, I'm not overly happy with Rolands arpeggiators which they have put on some of their latest gear (FA/JunoDS/System1+8). I'm happy with basic up and down arps with 1/2/3 octave selects. Most of their arpeggiators use a massive library of motif sequences and forget to put just the simple plain traditional arpeggiator onboard.
@@burnieking1401 Looks like they've been working on really deep arpeggiation functionality - now can be seen in the Jupiter XM - takes into account -how- and when you hit keys and uses actual NN AI to riff on it. Still absolutely admit it's sad not to have Random Arp on the System 8 given it's so deep otherwise. I have solved this for the System 8: TORAIZ Squid to the rescue there. Unsure how that will work with this. Also: The SH 101 is realistic even w resonance, but behaves in a non-speaker-threatening way. Very artistic. Feels like a! godly version of an SH 101 (having both owned one and using the System 1 / 8 ACB cut of it) I am
You can buy a MC707 using this link and support the channel: Roland MC707 // 8 track synth and sampler EU: thmn.to/thoprod/473348?offid=1&affid=623 US: imp.i114863.net/rvkmd
@XymXir The issue is that you said he's nothing but a saleman, which is simply not true. At this point he's likely paid to give a review by the manufacturer, but he doesn't endorse gear he doesn't like. And he gives fair reviews even when/if he's paid. Aside from not being true, you have effectively diqualified his artisitic side, and he's in this game becasue he's an artist first.
Hi Bo, if you check Rolands website, they now have a Firmware update to this unit... 1.02 A CUE function was added. A TONE STEP EDIT function was added. Waveforms were added to Motion Designer. A SCATTER function was added. A Metronome function was added. A Step Loop Mode was added. An automatic setting function for LOOPER clips was added. Shortcuts were added. Minor bugs have been fixed. Only out for a few weeks and Roland already on top of the bugs!! Nice work!
When I first saw the MC-707 I thought, oh no not another Roland Groovebox, but this thing is way deeper than anything I've seen before, it has some really great features on it and you could easily make a whole track on this thing. I like that you can bounce tracks onto another track recording the Mixdown output etc. it's like using an old tape multitrack recorder bouncing tracks onto other tracks. The FX send/return is another great feature I think Roland have made a great product with the MC-707.
why not another groovebox? they are awesome if you know how to use it. 2. making a whole track as you put it is now more cumbersome than ever with no song mode, everything has to be done live, in my opinion that is shit and most people seem to agree. they went backwards while trying to go forwards. it's a disappointment, wtf were they actually thinking. designer needs sacked and somebody that knows what groovebox users want needs employed.
@@TH-camSupportTeams I will wait till I demo it, to see how useful it will be for me. Different people use gear in different ways. A groovebox to me is something you can program drum beats, basslines, melodies, sample loops etc. on and trigger them or use the faders to mix elements in and out live or in the studio to get different mix ideas or whatever you want. The MC-707 has the potential to do that well.
Jus wanna say: I brought mine last week. $795. OMG! I don't care what anyone says about it. ITS AWESOME! (For me) MC707 TR8S SP404MKII TR-08 JUN06A JX-08 RC505MK2 KORG VOLCAS Beats-Sample-FM-and Mixer. Plus 11 guitars. 7 P.O.s smh. Something wild is come out if this "eventually"
Floyd Steinberg I am still not convinced against MPC though, that seems easier to use to me. But this has sliders which is cool. I was like wow at first but trying to figure more out. I just upgraded my tr-8 to tr-8s too! :( this is just samples, or it’s the same acb drums of the tr-8? If the latter, I might return or sell my tr-8s. Or maybe sell it anyway since I still have the tr-8 also. Not really sure!
@@blakecasimir yeah it appears not. Just saw their official longer video too. If it had the damned drum modeling, this would be a way more powerful unit. I refuse to sell my tr-8 though because it’s very immediate to use still. (Plus I paid for the stupid expansion, lol.) Have to see if the tr-8s ever feels quite like that, you know...
Except there is no arpeggiator as far as I can tell. I haphazardly bought an mc307 from a pawn shop and was a bit blown away by what the arpeggiator does, though it has bugs. Only other groovebox I own is an mc909 which "has" a total crap arpeggiator. It looks like Roland gave up on trying to include a working arpeggiator with their grooveboxes. I'm still considering buying this though
@@ACABSTUDIOS how the feck is the 909 arp total crap? it's one of the best arps in hardware to date you baboon lol and it's completely customisable wtf lol. learn how to use your tools before you slate them jeez
started 22yrs ago with the mc303 and now still jam weekly with a basis of rs7000 with mc505 or rm1x... (and a synth(an1x or prologue) for my part in the studio... replaced many parts of the grooveboxes and realized they were worn/used and finally beyond repair/original qualty... i cryed for years, dreamed of bying them new out the box... but are just tooo old to rely for as new. asked roland so much for new grooveboxes.. than they came with the cloud madness.. but now... now i ordered the mc707! thanks to you too! lets pray for a yamaha counter groovebox as well 🤜💥🤛
What I loved about this, were the sound expansions. Hands down superior sounds (to my personal taste) than MPC Live II expansions. I was sold immediatelly.
Thanks ! Best 1st look. don't be afraid to get wet with the Deluge if you need midi and cv, it's easy and deep plus it has 10 hr plus battery, no track limit too
Did Roland know I was looking at older grooveboxes of theirs and decide to offer me this shiny new one that honestly looks a lot easier to use? Great review and I'm kind of loving it.
@@mrdayvidjon Yes. Though lets be clear I have never owned a groovebox, I have never used a groovebox, I know someone who uses an older one but I've only seen her perform live or practice new stuff with it. I've never had the pleasure to sit down with her nor anyone else to really see how it works. I do play synths (not professionally) and I'd be interest in getting hands on experience with a groovebox but I'm not even looking to run out and buy one never mind a brand new one that costs this much. Realistically I would pick up a cheaper older one to learn on just like I would any instrument and having to press a shift key, even a lot, wouldn't dissuade me from one (not having $1000 / the fact I'd probably buy another new synth if I did would dissuade me). That all said I get how having to shift through things would be annoying. It can frustrate my experience to have to menu dive or press extra buttons when I just want to make music but I honestly think I'd have way more fun with it if I had one then I'd be frustrated. I like playing with instruments and I'm pretty patient, having to press buttons or keys in order to hear sounds is kind of a given but if I were to take the time and seriously study the features of different grooveboxes no this might not be my first choice but I could have said that simply based on my lack of money (which is way more frustrating than any shift key).
the 909 is WAYY easier to use than this and has a proper big screen like a mini DAW. Out of all the grooveboxes it is without doubt the best standalone music studio you can get for the price range, nothing else comes close
I dig the digitakt's concept, but this seems so much more comprehensive.. I say this time and again : I don't understand why companies don't make such a device that potentiates songwriting just as this one does... but more on a classical singer- songwriter style.. As in guitar..lyrics, drums, vocals, keys, etc.. I've been looking for an Akai Force-like device, that focuses not in hip-hop, EDM , or any electronika..but more on multitrack recording..and acoustic instruments library..so one can keep away from the computer.
Thanks for the review. I bought mine today as I feel that this will be a lot of fun to use. And it'll certainly be more than enough for me for the conceivable future.
@@GrootsieTheDog I cancelled the order. Because I watched Bo review the Synthstrom Deluge... And that blew my mind. So I immediately cancelled the 707 and bought the Deluge. And it's changed my life.
You know what Bo, I dont usually like your compositions. Not that theres anything wrong with them, everything is really well done and its obvious that a great deal of knowledge and care is put into them, its just a matter of taste, you and I are not into the same type of music I guess, and theres absolutely nothing wrong with that. I still watch all your videos because theyre so so well done and informative, and you have a great presence with your soft voice and your gift of explaining things in an understandable way. That being said, and the reason Im posting, I LOVE the composition at the 2:30 mark, gave me real feels and I just had to comment. Keep up the amazing work!
except the 909 is still the best as this thing doesn't even have song mode. and weird workflow, wtf is clips and scenes to a hardware sequencer guy. they fucked up again
Mc707 8tracks x 16 patterns(clips) =128 patterns Mc909 16 tracks x 200 patterns = 3200 Mc909 got arp, better screen and so on Yeah they fucked up when you look at 20 years old one and it has better sequencer and screen:))) 128 patterns per project is only going to do well in extremely repetitive genres and I’m not sure if that is going to be enough for more then 30 min:DDD it’s joke and don’t let me start on that hefty price tag:D
Loving the recent frequent uploads man! Keep it up (as much as you can while maintaining your sanity and free time of course). :) You really inspire me.
Hi Bo, I've said this before on another channel, but a trick you can use for midi tracks is to create a user patch with all the partials turned off (I used to do this for my MC-808 when I used it as only a midi sequencer/drum machine) that way you don't have to lower the volume and it won't use any polyphony. This also allows midi channel volume messages to control external synth as well without the internal sounds to play.
One thing I would like to know, is can you record a clip live on the fly? In other words, every time you record a clip do you have to stop the sequencer and go into the record mode? Like all previous MC sequencers before this.
As a side note, the MC-707 MIDI implementation only sends CCs 80-83 (The 3 main knobs for each channel + an MC-101 knob), hopefully Roland update the firmware and allow it to send the other standard MIDI CCs. Channel volume would be nice, plus MIDI tx options in the system menu. I'm sure they could do this.
When are you going to review "The Force"? It IS...a groove box, synthesizer, full d.j. and producer unit. I love it..although still learning it. I'd live to get ur take.
@@Official_Goku Right? I'm my opinion, it's one of the most powerful devices out there for music production. Difficult to get one's head around, because it's so unique. But make no mistake, it is a beast. I also have MPCX. Equally formidable, different work flow.
Funny you mention the RM1X...considering I just traded my Modal Instruments Skulpt for one in very good condition...:) I'm skeptical of these Roland Grooveboxes, since I was given a MC-303 to review before it was released...and I could not in good faith give it a positive review...but Roland has come a long way since that...
Kevin Kennedy ...given the MC303 came out over 20 years ago (and yes I had one), this MC707 has had plenty of time to prepare. I also had an RM1X a few years back. Great machine. Not sure about the onboard sound on this new Roland box. It’s not jumping out at me like my analog rhythm did...but it has some great performance features.
The mc-303 was my first drum machine and first synthesizer about 17 years ago. Fun box, but this is certainly a step up. However, I'm also a little skeptical of the sound. Surely using your own samples and some external effects would bring this along further, but it feels like they haven't used the best DACs possible compared to Elektron or other companies. Something feels thin about the sound output in general.
19:35 excellent alphabet scroll tool for naming. I hope firmware updates can support some of the changes needed, like the loop implementation - maybe midi flexibility as well... Great overview man - well done sir.
VM Sky well, for starters, without a hands on and based on this review, you get scenes which is like having a song mode which is not on the Digitakt. Dedicated sliders, easier mutes and lots of function dual key presses to reach your desired menu. SD card for backups. However, you don’t get the trig and parameter locks per step on sequencer but it has those abilities translated differently in the instrument so you can still parameter lock and some conditions. Scatter function takes the fills to a new level . The scene section seems almost as strong as the elektron song mode. Plus sample time stretch is a nice feature as well. I am curious how it stacks up.
sbmphr I said it’s “LIKE” having a song mode but it is not a song mode. Scenes is something more than what the Digitakt has to offer in regards to “song mode” but that’s what the OctaTrak is for.
Aside from not finding a way to have a count-in, I also haven't found a way to solo mode! Only mute! If I want to solo a drum sound I have to mute all the others...I wonder why there's no solo button.
Excellent explanation! I’m in love 😍, looks like I’m gonna get me one. I miss my original MC303 and this seems spot on. Thank god they got rid of the D (dumb) beam.
First! Also, If say I were going to buy Bo a synth I’d have to ask “What do you get the guy who has everything?” Seriously, you have all the goodies right now. Hehe 😋. Saw all the goodies Roland has coming out, very impressive lineup, hope you get your hands on the new Jupiter!!!
Yeah I have the Boutique and Jupiter here. I didn't fancy the Fantom (MAYBE I WAS WRONG IT LOOKS SO COOL IT HAS A SEQUENCER!). I am working on some coverage of both but I didn't really have time for it today and this video needs it space in the sun I think... 40 minutes. Lol. What happened there.
That point at 35:22 really was a sore point for me also. I was hoping that these could record pitch bend, mod wheel, and other CC events to the sequencer, and still send that out to external instruments, but that’s sounds like it’s not the case. It’s the same case with the MC-303. In fact even after I configure the track to be external, a MIDI keyboard used as input still triggers internal sounds, instead of passing through to external MIDI. Only the key pad buttons on the MC-303 pass through to an external synth. It really wasn’t intended to be a sequencer except internally.
Hey Bo, Hello from Kalamazoo Michigan, USA. Thanks for the super high quality video, the care you put into your contributions to the YouTbe world is extraordinary. I was wondering if you can create non-linked automation on the Motion Rec. function of the MC-707, like Ableton Live's Link/Unlink function for creating automation change over the course of any length of the looping pattern. Cheers
Looks very different than the original Roland Grooveboxes. I loved my time with the MC-505, which was brief, but felt very creatively freeing. I got an RM1x after that, but at the end of the day, I hated it. It felt very tedious to work with by comparison to the MC-505. These newer releases sound nice, for sure.
Fantastic review! I was wondering how the workflow works as a live instrument. How is the cue function? Can you listen to and modify sections without affecting what is playing out on mains like a mixer? Or does the Octatrack still make a better live performance instrument? Keep up the fantastic work!
Thanks Bobeats, great new review. This new Roland machine is full of functions and good ideas. For sure, it will have a lot of success. Then, in my opinion, which clearly depends on what kind of material I used to make music (more semi modular and modular) I found the sound very neutral and definitely too synthetic to considerate the 707 as a possible new machine in my set up. But I understand it could satisfy many other musicians...
I wish some manufacturer would make a robust piece of hardware like this that you could just slide an iPad into, not several controllers you need to slop together with a bunch of dongles and cables to get roughly the same tactile control. It's long overdue and the adoption of the au3 plugin format by major desktop developers and innovative iOS developers makes the iPad a music production and performance beast that far surpasses these closed hardware grooveboxes.
Bo... even your demos just sound sublime. Makes me want to buy everything and be a poor man who sits in a room full of equipment i have no idea how to use... Hmm. 707..
COOL review and tutorial! This is what we need to help us decide if we would like to buy a device. So what I learned from this Video: it's basically the hardware Ableton we've all wanted for years ;-)
Asm hydrasynth, korg mini synth, arturia keyboard, roland dozen of new products.....hope you enjoyed your summer Bo, this is gonna be a busy september , and i’m not even thinking about headphones from a legendary speakers and microphone brand .....no, not even thinking about it....;)
If Roland improve the midi output to include cc's I'm sold. Seems like a rather large oversight, perhaps as you said its just due to it being a pre production unit.
I was awake but I was having breakfast so I'm just seeing it now an hour later lol. If I wasn't working though I'd usually just be falling asleep around this time
@@Dea_Decay I feel you, I always sleep after the sun comes up and I really need to fix that, lol. I've been purging old habits from my childhood. Amazing for my long term health, terrible right now, haha.
Great review, thanks! One thing I can't get - how transitions between projects are managed during live performance? Is it possible to switch to next project without stopping current song?
@@BoBeats So, one live set of 60-120 minutes should be stored as one project in 16 clips per track with 8 saved scenes? It's looks not really possible) As well as putting up with unpredictable pauses between "tracks" to load project... Huge question (to Roland, off course), how do they planned this unit to perform live more than one track?
Finally an answer to my question about this box and it’s big massive no from me as it is not made for live performance its just pathetic and I would rather get rs7000 or mc909 and sequence my synths and samplers with it as this is worst then sketch pad for music. Total disgrace from Roland and they should fired everybody in that team for not understanding live performance capabilities and needs
My biggest question is the sounds themselves, apart from the drums, as it mentions the Juno 106 and SH 101, but then gets a bit vague with "modern digital and hybrid" sounds. Any chance of a basic "all sounds, no playing" video?
Ahh the mighty 707 well as a mc505 user there’s a lot to be reckoned with I am concerned about that timing anomaly I want my hair and not pull it out , so perhaps until the final prod. Ver. I wish he gave some rough price point.
No program change on this thing? and what about triggering scene changes by MIDI? It seems very hard to integrate in a larger setup! static.roland.com/assets/media/pdf/MC-101_MIDIImpleChart_eng01_W.pdf
I wonder if you've ever played with the Synthstrom Audible Deluge? For as much as you love the Circuit, maybe you should check it out. This video has me considering ditching it for the 707. This seems like everything I want in a groove box.
Can anyone explain how the 8 tracks work to me? Can a whole drum kit be loaded on a single track? Can multiple synth sounds be loaded on one track? Only part I'm confused about
I was initially mildly interested in this, but at a list price of £839, I choked on my coffee! This means that the street price will be £750+, which is a joke quite honestly. I know they are not directly compatible, but I would rather pay £300 for the Behringer RD 8, and pair it with any one of the half dozen synths that I have lying around, the RD 8 would play nicely with my Peak, Rev2 or SE-02. Nice try Roland, but a miss for me. I suppose if you are just starting out, with no gear, it would be a good buy, but most people watching this will already own a synth or two, plus maybe a sampler, sequencer or drum machine. Great review by BoBeats though, as per usual.
You might think so, but I have just finished cleaning coffee off my iPad screen :-)). As an alternative, how about this. Roland SE-02, £375, plus Behringer RD 8 £300, and put the money saved towards a sampler. You end up with a better synth, and an equivalent drum m/c, and you can buy better samplers than this. The only downside is if you are short on space. Not trying to rain on your parade Bo, I still think you do great reviews, it’s just that I believe that Roland have priced this way too high. I mean, it’s not a Moog, or a DSI. It’s not even an Elektron.
I own several grooveboxes from Korg, Roland, Elektron etc. To me the MC-707 is the best one, almost the perfect groovebox. Since firmware update 1.72 it also has an arpeggiator and scene-chaining (= song mode).
I'm looking for a groove box that is also a live looper I'm a scratch dj and want to hook my mixer up and have both options where I can drum a beat out live loop it then loop record in scratch s and build up tracks like that live , have you used any groove box that has this capabilities currently I'm thinking I need a groove box and a boss 505 to do what I want just wondering if there is anything that does both .....I have a machine mikro and even though this loop records its not quite right for a live performance
01:15 Intro
02:02 Sound 1
03:39 Overview
08:16 Inputs/Outputs
08:40 Setup Example
09:55 Sound 2
11:15 Creating Drums
15:19 Adding Synth
20:24 Clips
20:31 Mute Modes
22:09 Live Rec Clip
22:40 Sampling
24:56 Sampling Setup
27:26 Sample Edit
28:41 Mater FX
31:36 Pad Modes
33:10 Synth Engine
35:00 Pros / Cons
39:30 Fazit
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So a pattern is called a clip now? I hate when these companies try & change the terminology. You feel me?
Im an og Mc -303 user . so naturally i am hella stoked on this
Great review. Would love to hear another one now that there have been many updates to the firmware.
Hi Bo, I just recieved my unit yesterday and after playing with it for a few hours I have noticed a few additional things,
1. There is a lot of what appears to be classic JD/JV/XV sounds, going through the patch list a lot of familiar sounds come up from these range of classic synthesizers.
2. The synth engine not only has your generic waveshapes, but it also has a Supersaw osc... that means you can have 4 partials with a supersaw!!! Think massive detuned trance stabs. This is somewhat better than SuperNatural synth engine which was only 3 partials.
3. There are modeled filters, ie JP and modeled Juno Chorus.
4. This new synth engine allows almost 8x better resolution for sound editing, most synths follow the Midi CC of 128 steps ... this can be edited in steps of 1024.
5. There are 2 types of drum kits... Bank A = 16 hit sound kits (like the MC-808/909) or Bank B = 128 General MIDI sound kits (which I prefer)
My first synthesizer was a Roland MC-303 back in 1998, and 20 years later this is by far one of the best bits of gear they have released (imo). Not only is it cutting edge Groovebox technology, it's an awesome sound module... I think I'll sell my Akai MPC Live now.
thanks buddy! i might do an in-depth dive into the synth engine. Its quite deep as you’ve noted. how are you feeling the sound of it?
@@BoBeats Hi mate, yeah I really do like it, I'm a big fan of Ableton Live clip launch sequencing so this unit suits my recording style. I even appreciate in the sound library they have put all the 'synthesized' sounds at the top half of the menu, leaving all the acoustic sounds towards the bottom (these units are aimed towards electronic music after all).
The Juno Chorus Multi-effect sounds bloody amazing even on a simple Saw osc, so lush.
The one thing I cannot find yet is a metronome, although it's not hard to quickly insert a clip with a simple click track.
Did you know in NOTE mode, in a drum track... if you hold MUTE or the SELECT button you can mute individual drum notes! I'm sure it's in the manual somewhere. lol :)
And the icing on the cake, I can select any of the 8 channels from my midi keyboard and use it as a multitimbral device, something which really, REALLY annoyed me about the MPC Live.
@@BoBeats Using the MC-707 as just a stand-alone synth doesn't do it justice... hook it up to a midi keyboard and expand its sonic capabilities. I know some people have complained about the lack of an arpeggiator, but most keyboard controllers have that feature anyway. It's not a deal-breaker, plus it receives a lot more standard midi CC than it transmits.
To be honest, I'm not overly happy with Rolands arpeggiators which they have put on some of their latest gear (FA/JunoDS/System1+8). I'm happy with basic up and down arps with 1/2/3 octave selects. Most of their arpeggiators use a massive library of motif sequences and forget to put just the simple plain traditional arpeggiator onboard.
@@burnieking1401 Looks like they've been working on really deep arpeggiation functionality - now can be seen in the Jupiter XM - takes into account -how- and when you hit keys and uses actual NN AI to riff on it.
Still absolutely admit it's sad not to have Random Arp on the System 8 given it's so deep otherwise.
I have solved this for the System 8: TORAIZ Squid to the rescue there.
Unsure how that will work with this.
Also: The SH 101 is realistic even w resonance, but behaves in a non-speaker-threatening way. Very artistic. Feels like a! godly version of an SH 101 (having both owned one and using the System 1 / 8 ACB cut of it)
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Want to sell me that Live?
You can buy a MC707 using this link and support the channel:
Roland MC707 // 8 track synth and sampler
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@@LaszloVarjuTechno Not a toy or scam. are you having a bad day?
The return of the Roland MC, I was not expecting this amazing :-), thanks for the heads up Bo.
19:35 This guy is increasingly turning into Bob Ross of synthesizers.
@XymXir I was talking about his voice.
@XymXir You are a fucking idiot. Seriously. Bo puts tons of time and care into his reviews, and he gives fair reviews, pros and cons.
@@alexwestconsulting , who are you to call ppl an idiot? xymir is right: even @settings/1.5x speed, dude puts you to sleep
Gaz Williams from sonicstate is the real Bob Ross of the synth and gear world.
@XymXir The issue is that you said he's nothing but a saleman, which is simply not true. At this point he's likely paid to give a review by the manufacturer, but he doesn't endorse gear he doesn't like. And he gives fair reviews even when/if he's paid. Aside from not being true, you have effectively diqualified his artisitic side, and he's in this game becasue he's an artist first.
This is most probably the best Tutorial on the internet. Great job!
Hi Bo, if you check Rolands website, they now have a Firmware update to this unit... 1.02
A CUE function was added.
A TONE STEP EDIT function was added.
Waveforms were added to Motion Designer.
A SCATTER function was added.
A Metronome function was added.
A Step Loop Mode was added.
An automatic setting function for LOOPER clips was added.
Shortcuts were added.
Minor bugs have been fixed.
Only out for a few weeks and Roland already on top of the bugs!! Nice work!
Yes! Super happy with these additions
Still rocking my Roland MC-505! It may be time to upgrade. 👍🏾👍🏾
Taprecords yeah I know whatcha mean but I think of marriage to the 707 wow
David Jon E. Good point! I think I’ll do that! Awesome!
Also still using a mc 505! The mc707 seems the perfect modern replacement.
lennart stip You know it! 😎
505 is a BEAST. Step-record, RPS, megamix, multiple outputs, long pattern lengths
Sounds and looks like a wonderful device Bo. Thanks for the coverage.
Brilliant, detailed (and also very chill) review - many thanks for making the effort to do this.
This display takes me right back to my 90s music workstation! Makes me feel so young... :-))
When I first saw the MC-707 I thought, oh no not another Roland Groovebox, but this thing is way deeper than anything I've seen before, it has some really great features on it and you could easily make a whole track on this thing. I like that you can bounce tracks onto another track recording the Mixdown output etc. it's like using an old tape multitrack recorder bouncing tracks onto other tracks. The FX send/return is another great feature I think Roland have made a great product with the MC-707.
why not another groovebox? they are awesome if you know how to use it. 2. making a whole track as you put it is now more cumbersome than ever with no song mode, everything has to be done live, in my opinion that is shit and most people seem to agree. they went backwards while trying to go forwards. it's a disappointment, wtf were they actually thinking. designer needs sacked and somebody that knows what groovebox users want needs employed.
@@TH-camSupportTeams I will wait till I demo it, to see how useful it will be for me. Different people use gear in different ways. A groovebox to me is something you can program drum beats, basslines, melodies, sample loops etc. on and trigger them or use the faders to mix elements in and out live or in the studio to get different mix ideas or whatever you want. The MC-707 has the potential to do that well.
Jus wanna say: I brought mine last week.
$795.
OMG! I don't care what anyone says about it. ITS AWESOME! (For me)
MC707 TR8S SP404MKII TR-08 JUN06A JX-08 RC505MK2 KORG VOLCAS Beats-Sample-FM-and Mixer. Plus 11 guitars.
7 P.O.s smh.
Something wild is come out if this "eventually"
This looks and sounds like the one groovebox to rule them all. Great overview and voiceover, as always.
Floyd Steinberg I am still not convinced against MPC though, that seems easier to use to me. But this has sliders which is cool. I was like wow at first but trying to figure more out. I just upgraded my tr-8 to tr-8s too! :( this is just samples, or it’s the same acb drums of the tr-8? If the latter, I might return or sell my tr-8s. Or maybe sell it anyway since I still have the tr-8 also. Not really sure!
EDub I would sell the TR-8, keep the S, get an MC-707 :) MC-707 does not have the same ACB drums as the 8S, AFAIK.
@@blakecasimir yeah it appears not. Just saw their official longer video too. If it had the damned drum modeling, this would be a way more powerful unit. I refuse to sell my tr-8 though because it’s very immediate to use still. (Plus I paid for the stupid expansion, lol.) Have to see if the tr-8s ever feels quite like that, you know...
Except there is no arpeggiator as far as I can tell. I haphazardly bought an mc307 from a pawn shop and was a bit blown away by what the arpeggiator does, though it has bugs. Only other groovebox I own is an mc909 which "has" a total crap arpeggiator. It looks like Roland gave up on trying to include a working arpeggiator with their grooveboxes. I'm still considering buying this though
@@ACABSTUDIOS how the feck is the 909 arp total crap? it's one of the best arps in hardware to date you baboon lol and it's completely customisable wtf lol. learn how to use your tools before you slate them jeez
started 22yrs ago with the mc303 and now still jam weekly with a basis of rs7000 with mc505 or rm1x... (and a synth(an1x or prologue) for my part in the studio... replaced many parts of the grooveboxes and realized they were worn/used and finally beyond repair/original qualty... i cryed for years, dreamed of bying them new out the box... but are just tooo old to rely for as new. asked roland so much for new grooveboxes.. than they came with the cloud madness.. but now... now i ordered the mc707! thanks to you too! lets pray for a yamaha counter groovebox as well 🤜💥🤛
What I loved about this, were the sound expansions. Hands down superior sounds (to my personal taste) than MPC Live II expansions. I was sold immediatelly.
Woooow, a couple of months ago I asked you about what would be today the replacement for a mc 808, I think this is now the answer! 👍👏👏👏
Great video! Love the clarity filming on the LED most tutorials miss out on that (small but important) detail.
Thanks ! Best 1st look. don't be afraid to get wet with the Deluge if you need midi and cv, it's easy and deep plus it has 10 hr plus battery, no track limit too
Did Roland know I was looking at older grooveboxes of theirs and decide to offer me this shiny new one that honestly looks a lot easier to use? Great review and I'm kind of loving it.
Dea Siculus what? Are you kidding shift for dayssssss
@@mrdayvidjon Yes. Though lets be clear I have never owned a groovebox, I have never used a groovebox, I know someone who uses an older one but I've only seen her perform live or practice new stuff with it. I've never had the pleasure to sit down with her nor anyone else to really see how it works. I do play synths (not professionally) and I'd be interest in getting hands on experience with a groovebox but I'm not even looking to run out and buy one never mind a brand new one that costs this much. Realistically I would pick up a cheaper older one to learn on just like I would any instrument and having to press a shift key, even a lot, wouldn't dissuade me from one (not having $1000 / the fact I'd probably buy another new synth if I did would dissuade me).
That all said I get how having to shift through things would be annoying. It can frustrate my experience to have to menu dive or press extra buttons when I just want to make music but I honestly think I'd have way more fun with it if I had one then I'd be frustrated. I like playing with instruments and I'm pretty patient, having to press buttons or keys in order to hear sounds is kind of a given but if I were to take the time and seriously study the features of different grooveboxes no this might not be my first choice but I could have said that simply based on my lack of money (which is way more frustrating than any shift key).
the 909 is WAYY easier to use than this and has a proper big screen like a mini DAW. Out of all the grooveboxes it is without doubt the best standalone music studio you can get for the price range, nothing else comes close
@@TH-camSupportTeams Thanks for the tip! I'll check out the 909! That sounds great!
After my experience with the Novation Circuit and the Korg Minilogue, this could easily be something that I would like to have it next.
This is the kind of device that almost makes me wish I was into making this style of music..
Thamks for the video Bo. ;)
Sweet editing, too, as usual.
I dig the digitakt's concept, but this seems so much more comprehensive..
I say this time and again :
I don't understand why companies don't make such a device that potentiates songwriting just as this one does... but more on a classical singer- songwriter style.. As in guitar..lyrics, drums, vocals, keys, etc..
I've been looking for an Akai Force-like device, that focuses not in hip-hop, EDM , or any electronika..but more on multitrack recording..and acoustic instruments library..so one can keep away from the computer.
Thanks for the review. I bought mine today as I feel that this will be a lot of fun to use. And it'll certainly be more than enough for me for the conceivable future.
@@GrootsieTheDog I cancelled the order. Because I watched Bo review the Synthstrom Deluge... And that blew my mind. So I immediately cancelled the 707 and bought the Deluge. And it's changed my life.
You know what Bo, I dont usually like your compositions. Not that theres anything wrong with them, everything is really well done and its obvious that a great deal of knowledge and care is put into them, its just a matter of taste, you and I are not into the same type of music I guess, and theres absolutely nothing wrong with that. I still watch all your videos because theyre so so well done and informative, and you have a great presence with your soft voice and your gift of explaining things in an understandable way. That being said, and the reason Im posting, I LOVE the composition at the 2:30 mark, gave me real feels and I just had to comment. Keep up the amazing work!
Every time you say "mul-ti" I feel like I'm being tickled. Never change Bo.
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That synth sounds delightful
Seriously pleasing music there, well done!
Nice...really really nice. Longtime user of MC505 and MC909...been waiting for a new roland groovebox for years!
except the 909 is still the best as this thing doesn't even have song mode. and weird workflow, wtf is clips and scenes to a hardware sequencer guy. they fucked up again
Mc707 8tracks x 16 patterns(clips) =128 patterns
Mc909 16 tracks x 200 patterns = 3200
Mc909 got arp, better screen and so on
Yeah they fucked up when you look at 20 years old one and it has better sequencer and screen:)))
128 patterns per project is only going to do well in extremely repetitive genres and I’m not sure if that is going to be enough for more then 30 min:DDD it’s joke and don’t let me start on that hefty price tag:D
Loving the recent frequent uploads man! Keep it up (as much as you can while maintaining your sanity and free time of course). :) You really inspire me.
Hi Bo, I've said this before on another channel, but a trick you can use for midi tracks is to create a user patch with all the partials turned off (I used to do this for my MC-808 when I used it as only a midi sequencer/drum machine) that way you don't have to lower the volume and it won't use any polyphony. This also allows midi channel volume messages to control external synth as well without the internal sounds to play.
One thing I would like to know, is can you record a clip live on the fly? In other words, every time you record a clip do you have to stop the sequencer and go into the record mode? Like all previous MC sequencers before this.
As a side note, the MC-707 MIDI implementation only sends CCs 80-83 (The 3 main knobs for each channel + an MC-101 knob), hopefully Roland update the firmware and allow it to send the other standard MIDI CCs. Channel volume would be nice, plus MIDI tx options in the system menu. I'm sure they could do this.
Thats clever!! Thanks buddy!
so you can just hit rec, and hit a clip on a looper, while the machine is playing, and on next cycle it will start recording. So yes. Live.
You really need that Analog Heat to bring back some live into modern Roland synth and drum machines...
RM1x baby!
Man I miss my one, bought it new in the late 90s, cost a fortune back then.
Almost thought of buying one again recently.
Very good Insight. Thanks .
When are you going to review "The Force"? It IS...a groove box, synthesizer, full d.j. and producer unit. I love it..although still learning it. I'd live to get ur take.
Me too!
Elvin Lewis me 3
@@Official_Goku Right? I'm my opinion, it's one of the most powerful devices out there for music production. Difficult to get one's head around, because it's so unique. But make no mistake, it is a beast. I also have MPCX. Equally formidable, different work flow.
Funny you mention the RM1X...considering I just traded my Modal Instruments Skulpt for one in very good condition...:) I'm skeptical of these Roland Grooveboxes, since I was given a MC-303 to review before it was released...and I could not in good faith give it a positive review...but Roland has come a long way since that...
Kevin Kennedy ...given the MC303 came out over 20 years ago (and yes I had one), this MC707 has had plenty of time to prepare. I also had an RM1X a few years back. Great machine.
Not sure about the onboard sound on this new Roland box. It’s not jumping out at me like my analog rhythm did...but it has some great performance features.
The mc-303 was my first drum machine and first synthesizer about 17 years ago. Fun box, but this is certainly a step up. However, I'm also a little skeptical of the sound. Surely using your own samples and some external effects would bring this along further, but it feels like they haven't used the best DACs possible compared to Elektron or other companies. Something feels thin about the sound output in general.
What a fantastic demo Bo you really got some lush sounds out of this guy...
Ok what the hell, how does this thing sound so good.
Roland was obviously “inspired” by Ableton Live.
But I must say: Shift + menus on hardware aren’t very handy when performing.
hahhaha indeed, still love my ocatrack tho :P
Can’t wait to hear what the built in 303 sounds are like
This sounds surprisingly good. Great demo Bo!
19:35 excellent alphabet scroll tool for naming. I hope firmware updates can support some of the changes needed, like the loop implementation - maybe midi flexibility as well... Great overview man - well done sir.
Please make a comparison video with the Digitakt.
I second this motion :)
VM Sky well, for starters, without a hands on and based on this review, you get scenes which is like having a song mode which is not on the Digitakt. Dedicated sliders, easier mutes and lots of function dual key presses to reach your desired menu. SD card for backups. However, you don’t get the trig and parameter locks per step on sequencer but it has those abilities translated differently in the instrument so you can still parameter lock and some conditions. Scatter function takes the fills to a new level . The scene section seems almost as strong as the elektron song mode. Plus sample time stretch is a nice feature as well. I am curious how it stacks up.
@@TenMilL I think you've just sold me on this! thanks :)
sbmphr I said it’s “LIKE” having a song mode but it is not a song mode. Scenes is something more than what the Digitakt has to offer in regards to “song mode” but that’s what the OctaTrak is for.
VM Sky but then again, spend like $500 more and get a Rhythm mkII if song mode is needed. Kinda pricey at a grand.
Aside from not finding a way to have a count-in, I also haven't found a way to solo mode! Only mute! If I want to solo a drum sound I have to mute all the others...I wonder why there's no solo button.
I recall the MC-505 lacking a solo feature too, it's a product line "feature." That said, I didn't realize I wanted a solo until I read this ROFL.
Excellent explanation! I’m in love 😍, looks like I’m gonna get me one. I miss my original MC303 and this seems spot on. Thank god they got rid of the D (dumb) beam.
It uses SD cards, Roland loves SD cards.
Looks like the hardware version of Ableton... having ableton million more possibilities but being this more fun beacuse is more physical.
Pioneer Toriaz Sp-16 mimics Ableton Live clips also but Roland nailed the drum\synth \sampler programming options into clips.
First! Also, If say I were going to buy Bo a synth I’d have to ask “What do you get the guy who has everything?” Seriously, you have all the goodies right now. Hehe 😋. Saw all the goodies Roland has coming out, very impressive lineup, hope you get your hands on the new Jupiter!!!
Yeah I have the Boutique and Jupiter here. I didn't fancy the Fantom (MAYBE I WAS WRONG IT LOOKS SO COOL IT HAS A SEQUENCER!). I am working on some coverage of both but I didn't really have time for it today and this video needs it space in the sun I think... 40 minutes. Lol. What happened there.
Damn it , Bo. I'm on a gear diet. I shouldn't have watched this. This sounds too good. Roland picked the right person to review this.
That point at 35:22 really was a sore point for me also. I was hoping that these could record pitch bend, mod wheel, and other CC events to the sequencer, and still send that out to external instruments, but that’s sounds like it’s not the case.
It’s the same case with the MC-303. In fact even after I configure the track to be external, a MIDI keyboard used as input still triggers internal sounds, instead of passing through to external MIDI. Only the key pad buttons on the MC-303 pass through to an external synth. It really wasn’t intended to be a sequencer except internally.
Are they going to give you an MC101 to explore? It looks super cute!
nice overview, thanks for this one Bo, always top content! :)
4:03, "so let's start here on the right..."
haha lol!!! Noo i didn’t!!!! ♥️✌️
@@BoBeats haha i loved it!
me: you got this bo. Left right. High pass low pass.
My brain: leeeets shuffle!!!
bo: “don’t say it don’t say it...” SAYS IT
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Hey Bo, Hello from Kalamazoo Michigan, USA. Thanks for the super high quality video, the care you put into your contributions to the YouTbe world is extraordinary.
I was wondering if you can create non-linked automation on the Motion Rec. function of the MC-707, like Ableton Live's Link/Unlink function for creating automation change over the course of any length of the looping pattern.
Cheers
Thank you! As far as I know the automation is tied to pattern length.
Looks very different than the original Roland Grooveboxes. I loved my time with the MC-505, which was brief, but felt very creatively freeing. I got an RM1x after that, but at the end of the day, I hated it. It felt very tedious to work with by comparison to the MC-505. These newer releases sound nice, for sure.
It would be nice if you could do a review of the Akai Force which has four synth engines:)
Fantastic review! I was wondering how the workflow works as a live instrument. How is the cue function? Can you listen to and modify sections without affecting what is playing out on mains like a mixer? Or does the Octatrack still make a better live performance instrument? Keep up the fantastic work!
Looks very light n portable the sounds and the synth engine sounds big n tweakable cool review!
thanks buddy
I really love my Circuit
Thanks Bobeats, great new review. This new Roland machine is full of functions and good ideas. For sure, it will have a lot of success. Then, in my opinion, which clearly depends on what kind of material I used to make music (more semi modular and modular) I found the sound very neutral and definitely too synthetic to considerate the 707 as a possible new machine in my set up. But I understand it could satisfy many other musicians...
I wish some manufacturer would make a robust piece of hardware like this that you could just slide an iPad into, not several controllers you need to slop together with a bunch of dongles and cables to get roughly the same tactile control. It's long overdue and the adoption of the au3 plugin format by major desktop developers and innovative iOS developers makes the iPad a music production and performance beast that far surpasses these closed hardware grooveboxes.
they try, but iOS keeps changing so the hardware becomes outdated after only a couple/few years.
So much new gear in last few days... 😁
Bo... even your demos just sound sublime. Makes me want to buy everything and be a poor man who sits in a room full of equipment i have no idea how to use... Hmm. 707..
HOTCAKES.
Thats what these units Are going to sell.
I'll Be having one of each thank you VERY much.
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You still got this? The 1.8 update is another huge step up.
Hey Bo, love the review. Nice video as always.
Could you do a 1 year review or something?
Cheers from Belgium.
As you mentioned the RM1X, could you make a cool video about it. I recently got one so a hands on video i could really appreciate!
Great video, but I’m waiting for the MC-101 review. The MC-707 is a little bit too much for me :)
Create Digital Music has a good rundown
@@regend762 Waiting for the vidjio.
Looks like Roland have been very very very busy judging by all the new gear sweeeet.
COOL review and tutorial! This is what we need to help us decide if we would like to buy a device. So what I learned from this Video: it's basically the hardware Ableton we've all wanted for years ;-)
woah..... I'm gonna grab a mixed drink and watch this whole video since I'm REALLY on the fence about buying this.
Nah, I'm not getting this. It's pretty cool and while I'm sure it costs $1,000, it's not worth $1,000
Glad if I helped you decide, one way or another
Asm hydrasynth, korg mini synth, arturia keyboard, roland dozen of new products.....hope you enjoyed your summer Bo, this is gonna be a busy september , and i’m not even thinking about headphones from a legendary speakers and microphone brand .....no, not even thinking about it....;)
me reviewing headphones = internet explodes
BoBeats hahaha worth trying
This is truly exciting. Great reveal!
Mr. Basic riiiiiiggt, all that new Roland stuff!
@@NoirEtBlancVie It is way more exciting than this weeks other stuff so far 🐙
YO! could you please do a video on the RM1X?? so little decent info on youtube. would love your review, tutorial, etc., etc., etc. Cheers
Yes please!
really great in depth video!!! thanks!!
Hi, what's that USB - MIDI hub you are using for Arturia MicroLab please ? thx
If Roland improve the midi output to include cc's I'm sold. Seems like a rather large oversight, perhaps as you said its just due to it being a pre production unit.
Man! You’re so trippy! Excellent review 🌞
I'm the only person awake in the U.S. right now so I'm getting to see this here first. It's true. ;)
I’m awake Hahahah
Lies! It's 4:34 am now where I am here, you are not alone
I was awake too but now I must sleep....lol so much for getting some rest tonight.
I was awake but I was having breakfast so I'm just seeing it now an hour later lol. If I wasn't working though I'd usually just be falling asleep around this time
@@Dea_Decay I feel you, I always sleep after the sun comes up and I really need to fix that, lol. I've been purging old habits from my childhood. Amazing for my long term health, terrible right now, haha.
Great review, thanks!
One thing I can't get - how transitions between projects are managed during live performance?
Is it possible to switch to next project without stopping current song?
No. Projects take time to load
@@BoBeats So, one live set of 60-120 minutes should be stored as one project in 16 clips per track with 8 saved scenes? It's looks not really possible) As well as putting up with unpredictable pauses between "tracks" to load project... Huge question (to Roland, off course), how do they planned this unit to perform live more than one track?
Finally an answer to my question about this box and it’s big massive no from me as it is not made for live performance its just pathetic and I would rather get rs7000 or mc909 and sequence my synths and samplers with it as this is worst then sketch pad for music. Total disgrace from Roland and they should fired everybody in that team for not understanding live performance capabilities and needs
My biggest question is the sounds themselves, apart from the drums, as it mentions the Juno 106 and SH 101, but then gets a bit vague with "modern digital and hybrid" sounds.
Any chance of a basic "all sounds, no playing" video?
i might do a sound demo
@@BoBeats pretty please! Lmao. That's my primary interest in this
@@BoBeats umm i think a sound demo is pretty important as that's it's major selling point
Groove boxes are the best
Very cool sounding unit! Thank you so much for sharing this! A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Few years ago i was looking all over internet for MC909 and MC505. This looks waaay better! Must have it! ;D
Predrag Bajić hey my mc505 is much Easier to use and still sounds very cool
Thank you. Perfect tutorial.
Haha, I liked that delay demonstration. On that long pad sound :) nice vid though!
Ahh the mighty 707 well as a mc505 user there’s a lot to be reckoned with I am concerned about that timing anomaly I want my hair and not pull it out , so perhaps until the final prod. Ver. I wish he gave some rough price point.
Daym I only just recently bought the Tr8s...... :(
No program change on this thing? and what about triggering scene changes by MIDI? It seems very hard to integrate in a larger setup! static.roland.com/assets/media/pdf/MC-101_MIDIImpleChart_eng01_W.pdf
I'm waiting for the ''It sounds digital'' comment.
haha yes!!! (It does 🤣✌️)
Okay. Im in love but one question. Can this act like a midicontroller?
Yes. In the video BoBeats plays an external synth via MIDI out.
REGEND thx for the response
This thing is fire!
I wonder if you've ever played with the Synthstrom Audible Deluge? For as much as you love the Circuit, maybe you should check it out. This video has me considering ditching it for the 707. This seems like everything I want in a groove box.
i have the Deluge here and its lovely! The MC is easier to use, but the Deluge is much deeper
Can anyone explain how the 8 tracks work to me? Can a whole drum kit be loaded on a single track? Can multiple synth sounds be loaded on one track? Only part I'm confused about
Yes. One track = one drum kit
One synth sound per track
@@BoBeats well I'm sold. Thanks for the info and the great video Bo.
4:04 That would be your other right! LOL. Keep up the great work, Bo!
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the music bo makes on this sounds pretty decent at 125% speed lol
Good Machine but I still love my DELUGE especially the company behind it and their constantly developement in cooperation with the users
Synthstrom is doing amazing work!
Amazing intro. Just incredible-well done.
I was initially mildly interested in this, but at a list price of £839, I choked on my coffee! This means that the street price will be £750+, which is a joke quite honestly. I know they are not directly compatible, but I would rather pay £300 for the Behringer RD 8, and pair it with any one of the half dozen synths that I have lying around, the RD 8 would play nicely with my Peak, Rev2 or SE-02. Nice try Roland, but a miss for me.
I suppose if you are just starting out, with no gear, it would be a good buy, but most people watching this will already own a synth or two, plus maybe a sampler, sequencer or drum machine.
Great review by BoBeats though, as per usual.
The price is a bit much i think
You might think so, but I have just finished cleaning coffee off my iPad screen :-)). As an alternative, how about this. Roland SE-02, £375, plus Behringer RD 8 £300, and put the money saved towards a sampler. You end up with a better synth, and an equivalent drum m/c, and you can buy better samplers than this. The only downside is if you are short on space.
Not trying to rain on your parade Bo, I still think you do great reviews, it’s just that I believe that Roland have priced this way too high. I mean, it’s not a Moog, or a DSI. It’s not even an Elektron.
It’s seems too expensive, but the Toraiz is expensive, and an OT is expensive. So, perhaps it’s not 🍻
haha lol I meant "price" :D the PRICE is a bit much
i think compared to the competition they can sell it for this amount, I just wish it was slightly less because... well... less is nice :)