The two of you are both pretty awesome just so I can I will dispute ... lol Two of my faves for gear review. Gaz Loopop Collaboration review being requested at this time!
I love the MC-101 so much, I bought a 707, thinking it would be better in every way. However I found it more cumbersome than the 101, though maybe I'll learn to love it. I thought that having more knobs, more tracks, more inputs and less mode-switching would make it faster and more fun, and that it would be a looper and sampler, as well as a groovebox. But the 101 is so well designed, it's definitely less-is-more for me! There are annoying inconsistencies when you switch between them, like both have a Sound button, but they do entirely different things. Some things are easier on the 101, like clip launching. Go figure! On the 707, you can have too many ways to do things, like clip selection (encoders, arrow keys, pads, or the Value knob). That's just confusing! I've found that if I can't make a tune work with four tracks alone, then adding tracks isn't going to improve things.
Bought a mc101 ..Anderson’s had a demo shop model got it for £250 and it looked new. Brilliant piece of gear..amazed how small and light it is and it can run off a power bank ! I used too use a Roland xp30 and a few other synths when doing rehearsals but I now just use a aKai advance 49 and the mc101 it gives me all the sounds I need in a small lightweight package
The best explanation of something in my life :-) THX a lot for this. I am just struggle between 707 and Verselab and THX to this review 707 is my choice. Looong live the King ;-)
Hi, very good video indeed, but I have a question: If you make a custom synth path in the 707 and save it into a project, can you load it into the 101 and preserve the edits?. If that's the case, it's very likely that Roland (or a third party) will make a ZEN-Core editor for the Zen MC's, and the new Zen synths (Jupiter X, Xm and Fantom). The thing is that has to be done in the project file or with a special USB mode because both MC's expose very little parameters via MIDI (at least the ones that are documented in the MIDI implementation chart are few).
Thanks! How odd... I thought I answered this question but now my answer is gone... anyway, yes, you can load 707 projects and patches into the 101, and indeed hopefully we get SysEx access or an editor at some point.
How do you use them together? I was hoping to use the 101, as an extra 12 tracks and potential automation of scenes. Also using 101, as a mix down device. I welcome anyone’s thoughts.
FYI I tested the project compatibility between the MC-707 and MC-101. Obviously, the MC-707 will read the MC-101's projects. But surprisingly enough, the MC-101 will not only read the MC-707's projects but does not seem to loose anything upon saving again. Obviously, you are limited to the first 4 tracks, first 8 scenes on the MC-101. But you will still save everything to be loaded back on the MC-707. They make great companions. Now, as reported, the sound editing on the MC-101 is quite limited. Which is not the case on the MC-707. Well, whatever sound editing saved on the MC-707 will be loaded and applied on the MC-101. This means that the full sound engine is there, it just doesn't have the sound editing capability on the device itself. Not only are they great groovebox, they can be very good sound modules. Unfortunately, program changes, according to the midi implementation chart, is not an option here. Hopefully this helps ;)
Great video as always. I owned the 101 for about 6 months. It serves as an excellent source for the immediacy of traditional "bread and butter" synth and instrument-like sounds, though the menu-diving could be a bit fiddly at times. This is why I ended up selling it. That said, I am actually coming to regret my decision as I took for granted, the easy functionality of its SH 101 style step sequencing, live scatter and performance effects and precise automation recording capabilities. Save the 707, it's difficult to find another groovebox that can do all of the things it can do. Contemplating buying it again, but might hold out for Roland to come out with another new version (besides the SH 4D). I will be checking your page weekly for all possibilities! Thanks Loopop.
@@offTheMedsYe I owned an elektron syntakt and it was nice. But it's monophonic and you can't load samples into it. You can load samples into the Digitakt, but it doesn't have wavetable synthesis or a synth engine. The Digitone is polyphonic and has FM synthesis only, but no ability to load sounds in. The Analog Four MkII is nice, but it's only got 4 voice polyphony, MC 707 has 64 voice polyphony. I don't think you can load samples into it either I could be wrong though. While those other devices are really good at what they do and are brilliant hardware, I just think the MC 707 is the most versatile groovebox out, with regard to the synth engine of both the zencore and FM based sounds, 3,000+ synths sounds, 50 drum kits, ability to load samples, SH style sequencer, or regular step sequencer, 64 voice polyphony, INIT sound design capability, I think 4 oscillators per sound, not to mention the live performance capabilities like scatter FXs and clip launching song modes, the onboard faders etc.... But to each their own, out of all those I mentioned, you can't really go wrong.
I wonder if I can connect to a Roland Mc101 via Midi in a Boss Rc loop station (like rc500 or rc5) in order to send a loop of guitar to the Roland and then can I run this guitar loop in a clip..
Nice the Roland is continuing to provide firmware updates to this product line. I think the latest update, gives expanded synth editing access, to the 101. And usb class compliance. Further blurring the distinction between the two.
Quick question if I may: can I use the 101 to sequence external synths via midi? I used to do that with the original Circuit but it felt a bit cumbersome as I had to mute the internal synths. Thank you!
The 101 is actually the first groovebox that seems somewhat appealing to me, mostly due to form factor. I already have a setup that's at the limits of what I can lug around on public transport, but sampling and a poly synth are still missing. This with my K-mix and/or BSP for some extra knobs and sliders over midi could go a long way.
Does anyone know how to make the MC-101 do the color fade thing he has it doing at 8:00? I just got it in today and saw that and cant figure out how to make the lights fade between colors like that
As a traveller who is try to find his fire about music (being edm producer was my dream) I am thinking to get one groovebox which can maybe ignite my fire to make music on the road. So it would be really helpfull to see comparisons between all groovebox like circut, electribe sampler2 maybe op1 even maybe (not for me but) dealuge. Also you can discuss in that episode about can digitak and model sample use as a groovebox. Thank you so much for your interest and hope to see your comparison
Hi, I'm having trouble finding out if this can be used directly as a midi sequencer/composer with other gear/synths? From what I gather this can be a glorified MC500? I don't have much use for the synth engine/ drum machine capabilities.
Great video, thanks. Surprised there was so much similarity. I think I'll get the 101, might be a bit menu-divey, but man this is júst enough production power in a small package at a pretty reasonable price. Did not expect anything this awesome from Roland in this century tbh.
@@justinbernal1 Yes I love it, but it's not perfect. It's super powerful and has even more features now. It's my main music creation tool and it can do almost everything I really need. But some features are a little hidden, it's not super intuitive and while I love the sound engine, after some months I did wish for some sounds that didn't seem to be there. But you could get the Zenology pro (subscription) to make your own sounds or combine it with a synth. I'm okay with the workflow, if it's your main music making tool you'll learn it quickly, if it's just one of many pieces of gear you own and you don't use it for a while you're gonna have to get back in the groove a little bit. It's amazing value for money, but I wish they'd made it twice as big and added some dedicated buttons instead of putting in a lot of shortcuts that you have to remember. It's not perfect, but it's by far the best option for me out there, every alternative has compromises. Edit: I see I mostly focused on the negatives, just wanted to emphasize that the sound engine is amazing and it's basically a super tiny workstation, it's that powerful.
I like the size of the 101 but wish it had the same screen and ability to edit the sounds more. That would be perfect. Love the ultra portable form factor. Also I had a circuit and didn't love the no screen and even how sounds were loaded...
I assume you mean editing on the mc101... have you seen mylarmelodies' video about sound design for this machine? While the interface is naturally limiting, it seems like there's a huge capability lurking underneath if you use Roland's DAW-based preset editing plugin and export presets to SD card... neatly separating sound design // writing. With this in mind, and of course the price, size and battery power, it was a very easy decision to go for the smaller machine
Excellent video! I can see the MC101 being popular with live performers, given its size, battery power & relative simplicity. That, and I would much rather have a $600 box doing the clip launching duties than having to use a $2,000 MacBook Pro when gigging.
I was already set on getting a Novation Circuit, so when the MC101 came out I was like GOD DAMMIT now I have a choice to make! Lol. Still got the circuit for half the price of the MC101 and I'm loving it. These guys look fun too though. :)
What'd you end up deciding? The circuit seems to have a pretty solid community behind it - including sample packs from some youtube greats like BoBeats. I'm on the fence between the two. The new Model:Cycles looks neat, but I'm after battery powered with headphones fun.
Krakatoa lawn mower loopop that's a great review ! I have a question for you - i'm just about to acquire my first groovebox to have some fun with ( i'm not a musician ) in preference to a synth for synthplicity ( sic ) and the Roland looks the bees knees to me so would i be better to go for the MC707 initially and grow in to it,since cost is not a consideration ? If i go MC101 first and then want to progress later i then have to make a second purchase in the future so what thinks thee.I gather the MC101 is more about portability and creating music on the go but i probably wouldn't do that anyway if that helps ? Or perhaps you could suggest an alternative path to start my creative journey bearing in mind i'm 68 and time may be of the essence !Later....came across your review of the Korg Wavestate and it does sound good and i think i've added it to my list.
Great video. It would be nice to see a video that explains midi capabilities with this. I could see one of these devices, especially the smaller ones, being useful in a band setting, with drums like the Roland SPD 8 series. Also would like to know if I can send CC messages through an iPad to one of these devices.
thanks. .. are the scenes and clips just arranging the same 4 tracks (101) and 8 tracks (707) of pattern data? Or are the clips and scenes / patterns able to contain different tones, so a song can have more sounds than the 4 and 8 respectively?
@@loopop yea so I'm not phrasing the question very well :-s. What I mean is, the clips per project / song will only be able to hold 1 drum track and 3 synth sounds (for example on the 101 = 4 tracks). You can't get more "tracks' by recording clips using other sounds right. the clips don't free up tracks/sounds, they're just for arrangement yeah?
It's good that the mc-101 knobs can be assigned to control different parameters. But this would get awfully confusing for someone performing live unless they kept the knob assignments very consistent, right?
this problem is somewhat fixed on microgranny and mfb tanzmaus - you don't change the knob value until you hit the currently saved value while rotating the knob.
wanted the 101 for some time, but then i just got 2 separate samplers (microgranny 2 and qubit nebulae). driving them with the arturia beatstep pro, sound great with some analog gear :)
thanks for great reviews, could one import their own samples (from SD card) to the 16 parts of a “drum kit” and in essence use a drum kit as a 16 part sample (non-percussion samples) playback track ?
Maquette Music Roland gear always feels a tad overpriced. But the M-101 has SO many sounds, and 4 parts, it has a lot to offer in hardware that we haven’t really seen since the 00s. And then it’d be huge and more expensive JV series racks or something of that ilk...
I find the polyphony of 128 being eaten up very quickly when layering pads and bells on 3 parts. Even with max voice allocation per part the notes can suddenly go silent. It does not replace my 2080 I think which was a big let down.
Hi, fantastic video but I have ONE only question, I want a music production small standalone module (for use without pc or tablet) that can bring me sounds to my keys/pad of my Akai mini mk3 (I would need a midi host) and connect a Boss Rc 500 looper too that is in turn connected to a Stomp and then finally to my guitar. Do you recomend me the Roland MC 101 (in that case I would need to connect and disconnect from the midi in output the akai in order to connect the boss looper for record my guitar loops) or there is another small option that you can recomend like novation circuit tracks or 1010 blackbox (this has an usb host port that let me connect directly the Akai) or another?
Hey Loopop! Awesome as always!! :) Any thoughts on why Roland deny the MC 707 to record pitchbend or modulation information via external hardware like for example the Novation SL Mk 3. The pitch or modulation info comes into the 707 and you can hear the changes but will not be recorded in the sequencer. I know you can use the knobs on the MC for this but it seems counterintuitive if playing with external hardware to use the knobs instead of pitch and mod wheels. What do you think? Any ideas on a workaround? I think this should be a basic feature? Does Roland listen to your input? Best Regards /Mack
Thanks! I hope they listen to me and a lot of others - they actually have in the recent update. To the point - you have three modulation lanes - my workaround for you to be to apply one of the to pitch. I know it’s not perfect...
Roland should make a desktop editor for the synth, so people can make their own presets for the 101. I wonder if the MIDI mapping features of the 707 firmware update will carry across.
Dang, I was really hoping I could use the 101 to record sounds I create off of other synths and then sample them. But it doesn't have Line In? How would I get this to work with USB instead?
Hi Ziv, I know it's been about six months since the review. From your recollection, do you recall whether only any four of sixteen midi channels of the MC-101 are available to receive note on/off? In other words, connecting the MC-101 to a DAW would result in up to a maximum of four separate channels being sequenced at once verses 16 channels playable? For the MC-707 a maximum of eight channels would be playable at once? Although the midi implementation claims that both can receive on channels 1-16, the engines are limited to 4 or 8 voices respectively? Gratefully.
Yes - MC-707 is eight voices, on 8 midi channels (which can be any eight of midi channels 1-16) MC-101 is four voices, on any four midi channels Both will receive control signals on another midi channel, like programme changes to launch scenes, but not note data
Such an impressive video. Very great explanations and good merits for both. By the end I was really wondering if the extra space is worth it though. I am looking for an upgrade from a Volca Sample and the 707 is quite the hunk. Seems like I may end up going with the 101 even though there are some parts I like more about the 707 (mainly the sequence view, but hopefully I can just get used to that workflow). I am messing around with my friends Novation Circuit Tracks and am realizing I cannot do a no-screen device. The various lights are supposed to be intuitive but I think my brain needs numbers and letters even if there is a bit of menu diving for it.
Hello community, Need advice! I would like to optimize the midi connection of my setup for the best ergonomics possible. Gear: Digitakt + Microfreaks + MC 101 Roland I also have midi merge midi solutions if needed. Currently, Digitakt Out> Midi Merge A in 1> Microfreaks In Midi Merge A in 2> MC 101 So I can sequence the Microfreaks and the MC 101 with the Digitakt Microfreaks Out> Midi Merge B In> MC 101 To play the sounds of the MC 101 via the Microfreaks keyboard I wish I could directly record the sequences of the MC 101 or Microfreaks on the Digitakt, but I'm having trouble ... Opinions, advice to a neophyte of the South that galley? Thank you in advance !!
Can you acces all the synth parameters via midi? I have a Deluge but the 707 looks much more hands one, beside of that how does the synth engine compare to the Deluge? Thanx in advance! How do you manage to make such fantastic videos? Greetz ✌️🤞👍
Thanks for the kind words! No, you cannot currently access all the synth parameters via MIDI, but it would certainly be awesome if Roland or someone else releases an editor. The synth engine in the 101 has more parameters than the Deluge's, but I guess you could get similar results by layering Deluge presets. The sampling engine on the Deluge has more features though.
Thumbs up - production quality: camera angles, lighting, audio and content are all superb. Unfortunately the MC-707 screen is much too small when you think of all of the parameters need to be displayed within a small screen. The MC-707 costing twice as the MC-101 does not deliver any way close to twice the features. The I/O connection ports are much better on the MC-707 than what you get on the MC-101.
Actually since the 101 does not have velocity sensitive keys it looses out on being a sound module. That's a big deal for me. The Zen Core engine can be used for other synths via MIDI as well as Guitar Synths. So Perhaps its got a future. The screen is always too small. I wish they had a mini hdmi plug where another large screen could be plugged into. So simple to address.
Thank you very much for your video, very informative. I am a owner of a MC-505 & MC-909. I am disappointed from the new machines. Those who use the old stuff can understand me.
Thanks for the video. I have a few question. (Mc101) -in the drumtrack, can you eq different sounds? Or just the kit? -can you change the last step/sound or just the whole track? -is there any lfo?
Awesome video thanks for The invaluable information. ....so many things I like about these two boxes I think They both are well thought out designs and great form factors. It’s just such a shame that it’s Lacks basic MIDI capabilities. I was also hoping with all the knobs and faders that this unit might be able to perform some of the features the MX 1 failed to deliver. However not the case Roland seems to have problems with making their gear class compliant - In the age where we all have these small powerful devices I just don’t understand it. Why make a small battery powered Groovebox and not have it class complaint???? I sold my Mx1 because it wasn’t class complaint Not to mention I could only use three channels unless I wanted to invest in their ecosystem. Don’t get me wrong so many things are so cool on these ...maybe Firmware can fix some of it. I don’t think there would be as much criticism of these units if they were priced about $200 less than they are . In my option the price is too inflated for what you’re getting in this competitive market. If the 101 was selling for $370 ish & the 707 was around $799 ish . Roland will be selling these things like hotcakes.
jarkokoo I forget the exact measurements but I think THE 101 comes within a quarter inch of being the same size as the Volcas .... At that price point I can buy five used Volcas for the price of this one machine not saying I would want to do that......just FFT
On the other hand you're getting a multitimbral(4) 128 voice polyphonic synth with sample playback that can also sequence external synths. Plus there's USB Audio out for all 4 tracks sent (if I'm not mistaken) at up to 24-bit/96kHz AND it's battery and USB powered. My guess is firmware updates will really open this thing up.
MacGuffin that’s cool 4 out usb.... is that usb class Compliant? That would be amazing I’m not getting my hopes up with Roland they Don’t seem to put on the episodes on making their products compatible with anything else other than their own ecosystems Let me know if you have any more insight on the USB connectivity Compatibility
Great video s. One thing I'm trying to figure out. I noticed a comment with concern over midi capabilities. How does it or dosent it work well or at all with such? Thanks
Thanks! Yes, you have up to 8 scenes and it's super easy to create and then switch between them - as I mentioned though, because you don't have dedicated scene buttons like in the 707, you'll need to use the main pads for this.
Hi, have another question. external synths (via MIDI) are not playable on the pads of the MC-707? why ..? Only works if there are MIDI notes in the clip and they are played back. Thank You :-)
Hi Looppop, does the 101 recognise velocity data from and external MIDI keyboard. I downloaded the 101 MIDI implementation chart and under velocity it only indicates note on and note off info - not a value between 0 and 127.
What are the mixing capabilities of these grooveboxes? Are there any EQ/compressors per track? And what about drum tracks, can individual drum sounds be mixed separately or is it just the whole track?
I know this video is quite old so you probably won't see my comment, but if you do: I've had the MC-101 for about two months. I love how it sounds-but my big gripe is the workflow and usability. It's really clunky and unintuitive, a lot of obnoxious key commands that you have to remember in order to do simple stuff. Would you say the MC-707 is easier / friendlier to use than the MC-101? Thinking of selling the 101 and upgrading. Don't care so much about size and portability; just want something that will be fun to make music on, and the 101 hasn't proven very fun.
Great comparison video, thanks for making it! Is it possible to load an .mpj project file created on the MC-707 on the MC-101? Assuming the project has only 4 tracks.
Probably been asked before; how many FX per track? At least three at the same time I hope? Thanx for all your sooo informative and relaxed info boosts on instruments, Loopop!!
Thank you, excellent video. Question if I may, I am looking for an equivalent to Yamaha QY100, which suited me in the day but after a very very long gap, want to start ‘tinkering’ again because it fascinates me, would this give me that or any suggestions, please?
Hi Loopop, You do such a great work with all your videos! ...I just wonder if you can play simultaneous loops (from several pads) in a single Loop Track in the Mc-101. I just can´t find that info. Thank you!
Considering the upgrade to the 707, i love doing everything on the 101. But when introducing samples its a pain to edit. Also even though you chop them up beforehand, I always find myself needing to adjust them on the MC101. Just more buttons and more tracks seems very nice as well.
Are you able to play all four tracks via MIDI IN at once? I'm looking for a portable "sound module" that can also stand on its own. And if that's possible, can you play via MIDI IN even while the tracks are playing from the internal sequence?
You can assign each of the tracks a middle channel or assign them all to the same midi channel. I was able to create a monster poly sound by putting all tracks on the same channel and playing them from external controller. Hope this helps.
Hi thanks for a great video. I've just bought a second hand 101. I can't get the Sound button to light, do you think it's broken? It still works. Thanks.
Hello friends ..I have a tr8, tb3 and sh201and i have not PC ..i am looking for a workstation to produce .. i am seeing only the mc 707 and polyend tracker..i love house and techno music..what hardware do you recommend me? Thanks ;)
could i use the mc-101 to play back an audio loop melody and build a drum beat and bass sequence around that melody loop? how long can the audio sample be? and then swap out melody loops while keeping the same beat track going? then sequencing the melody or vocal loop to be on beat via time stretch?
is it possible to upgrade projects saved on the mc-101 and upload them easily to an mc-707 via SD card? that way if you upgrade from mc-101 to mc-707 if needed without having to reprogram any songs/projects.
I am getting my 707 tomorrow but from what I have read on Reddit, it is possible to "expand" a 101 project by putting it into a 707. Obviously not the other way around, though I do wonder if a 4 track limited 707 project would transfer smoothly to a 101...
hello, i have had mine for a few days. the instrument is simple but has a lot of options and menus.... track one is relegated to drums by default. Can I change this and, for example, make four tone tracks or does the first one always remain for drums?
Blooming heck Loopop when are you going to stop being so totally awesome? It puts the rest of us to shame!
daps to my boy gaz
Oh trust me Gaz, you ARE totally awesome!
The two of you are both pretty awesome just so I can I will dispute ... lol Two of my faves for gear review. Gaz Loopop Collaboration review being requested at this time!
That would be a fun day at the office!
Jeezus. Coming from you, that's quite an endorsement.
Good news - Roland keeps adding additional functionality to both models including sound design for the 101
I love the MC-101 so much, I bought a 707, thinking it would be better in every way. However I found it more cumbersome than the 101, though maybe I'll learn to love it. I thought that having more knobs, more tracks, more inputs and less mode-switching would make it faster and more fun, and that it would be a looper and sampler, as well as a groovebox. But the 101 is so well designed, it's definitely less-is-more for me! There are annoying inconsistencies when you switch between them, like both have a Sound button, but they do entirely different things. Some things are easier on the 101, like clip launching. Go figure! On the 707, you can have too many ways to do things, like clip selection (encoders, arrow keys, pads, or the Value knob). That's just confusing! I've found that if I can't make a tune work with four tracks alone, then adding tracks isn't going to improve things.
loopop & Sonic State = my go to sources for audio gear videos. Greetings from Toronto, Canada
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I don’t know why I didn’t search for this first. You are always the most thorough and intelligent reviewer of gear like this.
Bought a mc101 ..Anderson’s had a demo shop model got it for £250 and it looked new.
Brilliant piece of gear..amazed how small and light it is and it can run off a power bank !
I used too use a Roland xp30 and a few other synths when doing rehearsals but I now just use a aKai advance 49 and the mc101 it gives me all the sounds I need in a small lightweight package
My 707 is on it's way and I'm counting the minutes until it arrives. Thanks for a great video kind sir.
These videos are so interesting and well-structured. You should have 10x the subs you currently have!
Absolute Class. Fantastic review and comparison. Thank you Loopop
22:21 Chord mode for MC-101 added in version 1.50 June 2020
The best explanation of something in my life :-) THX a lot for this. I am just struggle between 707 and Verselab and THX to this review 707 is my choice. Looong live the King ;-)
Wow have i been waiting for this!
Hi, very good video indeed, but I have a question: If you make a custom synth path in the 707 and save it into a project, can you load it into the 101 and preserve the edits?. If that's the case, it's very likely that Roland (or a third party) will make a ZEN-Core editor for the Zen MC's, and the new Zen synths (Jupiter X, Xm and Fantom). The thing is that has to be done in the project file or with a special USB mode because both MC's expose very little parameters via MIDI (at least the ones that are documented in the MIDI implementation chart are few).
Thanks! How odd... I thought I answered this question but now my answer is gone... anyway, yes, you can load 707 projects and patches into the 101, and indeed hopefully we get SysEx access or an editor at some point.
Editor +1 !
How do you use them together? I was hoping to use the 101, as an extra 12 tracks and potential automation of scenes. Also using 101, as a mix down device. I welcome anyone’s thoughts.
FYI
I tested the project compatibility between the MC-707 and MC-101.
Obviously, the MC-707 will read the MC-101's projects. But surprisingly enough, the MC-101 will not only read the MC-707's projects but does not seem to loose anything upon saving again. Obviously, you are limited to the first 4 tracks, first 8 scenes on the MC-101. But you will still save everything to be loaded back on the MC-707. They make great companions.
Now, as reported, the sound editing on the MC-101 is quite limited. Which is not the case on the MC-707. Well, whatever sound editing saved on the MC-707 will be loaded and applied on the MC-101. This means that the full sound engine is there, it just doesn't have the sound editing capability on the device itself.
Not only are they great groovebox, they can be very good sound modules. Unfortunately, program changes, according to the midi implementation chart, is not an option here.
Hopefully this helps ;)
Thanks - yep I tested it too and indeed it works. Note that the 707 also has only 8 scenes.
@@loopop You are right. I meant to say 16 clips.
@@lilerichzahn1972 is it possible to play 4 tracks simultaneously (setting the same MIDI channel)? I
Love your awesome and nerdy gear reviews. Best synth-tuber out there. :) Have to try the 101 for my productions.
Great video as always. I owned the 101 for about 6 months. It serves as an excellent source for the immediacy of traditional "bread and butter" synth and instrument-like sounds, though the menu-diving could be a bit fiddly at times. This is why I ended up selling it. That said, I am actually coming to regret my decision as I took for granted, the easy functionality of its SH 101 style step sequencing, live scatter and performance effects and precise automation recording capabilities. Save the 707, it's difficult to find another groovebox that can do all of the things it can do. Contemplating buying it again, but might hold out for Roland to come out with another new version (besides the SH 4D). I will be checking your page weekly for all possibilities! Thanks Loopop.
elektron?
@@offTheMedsYe I owned an elektron syntakt and it was nice. But it's monophonic and you can't load samples into it. You can load samples into the Digitakt, but it doesn't have wavetable synthesis or a synth engine. The Digitone is polyphonic and has FM synthesis only, but no ability to load sounds in. The Analog Four MkII is nice, but it's only got 4 voice polyphony, MC 707 has 64 voice polyphony. I don't think you can load samples into it either I could be wrong though. While those other devices are really good at what they do and are brilliant hardware, I just think the MC 707 is the most versatile groovebox out, with regard to the synth engine of both the zencore and FM based sounds, 3,000+ synths sounds, 50 drum kits, ability to load samples, SH style sequencer, or regular step sequencer, 64 voice polyphony, INIT sound design capability, I think 4 oscillators per sound, not to mention the live performance capabilities like scatter FXs and clip launching song modes, the onboard faders etc.... But to each their own, out of all those I mentioned, you can't really go wrong.
Another great video can't wait for my 101 to come. Thanks for the great video
I wonder if I can connect to a Roland Mc101 via Midi in a Boss Rc loop station (like rc500 or rc5) in order to send a loop of guitar to the Roland and then can I run this guitar loop in a clip..
Nice the Roland is continuing to provide firmware updates to this product line.
I think the latest update, gives expanded synth editing access, to the 101.
And usb class compliance.
Further blurring the distinction between the two.
Quick question if I may: can I use the 101 to sequence external synths via midi? I used to do that with the original Circuit but it felt a bit cumbersome as I had to mute the internal synths. Thank you!
Yes, but same deal here, there are no dedicated MIDI tracks
@@loopop great to know, thank you so much!
The 101 is actually the first groovebox that seems somewhat appealing to me, mostly due to form factor. I already have a setup that's at the limits of what I can lug around on public transport, but sampling and a poly synth are still missing. This with my K-mix and/or BSP for some extra knobs and sliders over midi could go a long way.
Does anyone know how to make the MC-101 do the color fade thing he has it doing at 8:00? I just got it in today and saw that and cant figure out how to make the lights fade between colors like that
It's just the Vegas mode "screen saver"
8:01 the «USB class compliance» driver comes with the upgrade V1.6
As a traveller who is try to find his fire about music (being edm producer was my dream) I am thinking to get one groovebox which can maybe ignite my fire to make music on the road. So it would be really helpfull to see comparisons between all groovebox like circut, electribe sampler2 maybe op1 even maybe (not for me but) dealuge. Also you can discuss in that episode about can digitak and model sample use as a groovebox. Thank you so much for your interest and hope to see your comparison
These two boxes really need the same software editor love that the TR-8s and 6s got. So frustrating. Please, Roland!
This was really well done and informative thank you!!!
Great video good to hear the difference between these seems really fun
Had to replay - thank you!
Hi, I'm having trouble finding out if this can be used directly as a midi sequencer/composer with other gear/synths? From what I gather this can be a glorified MC500? I don't have much use for the synth engine/ drum machine capabilities.
Yep. You can sequence external gear with them.
Great video, thanks. Surprised there was so much similarity. I think I'll get the 101, might be a bit menu-divey, but man this is júst enough production power in a small package at a pretty reasonable price. Did not expect anything this awesome from Roland in this century tbh.
@@justinbernal1 Yes I love it, but it's not perfect. It's super powerful and has even more features now. It's my main music creation tool and it can do almost everything I really need. But some features are a little hidden, it's not super intuitive and while I love the sound engine, after some months I did wish for some sounds that didn't seem to be there. But you could get the Zenology pro (subscription) to make your own sounds or combine it with a synth. I'm okay with the workflow, if it's your main music making tool you'll learn it quickly, if it's just one of many pieces of gear you own and you don't use it for a while you're gonna have to get back in the groove a little bit. It's amazing value for money, but I wish they'd made it twice as big and added some dedicated buttons instead of putting in a lot of shortcuts that you have to remember. It's not perfect, but it's by far the best option for me out there, every alternative has compromises.
Edit: I see I mostly focused on the negatives, just wanted to emphasize that the sound engine is amazing and it's basically a super tiny workstation, it's that powerful.
I like the size of the 101 but wish it had the same screen and ability to edit the sounds more. That would be perfect. Love the ultra portable form factor. Also I had a circuit and didn't love the no screen and even how sounds were loaded...
I assume you mean editing on the mc101... have you seen mylarmelodies' video about sound design for this machine? While the interface is naturally limiting, it seems like there's a huge capability lurking underneath if you use Roland's DAW-based preset editing plugin and export presets to SD card... neatly separating sound design // writing. With this in mind, and of course the price, size and battery power, it was a very easy decision to go for the smaller machine
I need to get an autograph from this guy... never disappoints
Excellent video! I can see the MC101 being popular with live performers, given its size, battery power & relative simplicity. That, and I would much rather have a $600 box doing the clip launching duties than having to use a $2,000 MacBook Pro when gigging.
I was already set on getting a Novation Circuit, so when the MC101 came out I was like GOD DAMMIT now I have a choice to make! Lol. Still got the circuit for half the price of the MC101 and I'm loving it. These guys look fun too though. :)
What'd you end up deciding? The circuit seems to have a pretty solid community behind it - including sample packs from some youtube greats like BoBeats.
I'm on the fence between the two. The new Model:Cycles looks neat, but I'm after battery powered with headphones fun.
Krakatoa lawn mower loopop that's a great review ! I have a question for you - i'm just about to acquire my first groovebox to have some fun with ( i'm not a musician ) in preference to a synth for synthplicity ( sic ) and the Roland looks the bees knees to me so would i be better to go for the MC707 initially and grow in to it,since cost is not a consideration ? If i go MC101 first and then want to progress later i then have to make a second purchase in the future so what thinks thee.I gather the MC101 is more about portability and creating music on the go but i probably wouldn't do that anyway if that helps ? Or perhaps you could suggest an alternative path to start my creative journey bearing in mind i'm 68 and time may be of the essence !Later....came across your review of the Korg Wavestate and it does sound good and i think i've added it to my list.
As always top quality reviews!
Great video. It would be nice to see a video that explains midi capabilities with this. I could see one of these devices, especially the smaller ones, being useful in a band setting, with drums like the Roland SPD 8 series. Also would like to know if I can send CC messages through an iPad to one of these devices.
thanks. .. are the scenes and clips just arranging the same 4 tracks (101) and 8 tracks (707) of pattern data? Or are the clips and scenes / patterns able to contain different tones, so a song can have more sounds than the 4 and 8 respectively?
Not sure I understand the question, but you get one tone or loop for the looper/tone tracks, and 16 samples for the drum tracks
@@loopop yea so I'm not phrasing the question very well :-s. What I mean is, the clips per project / song will only be able to hold 1 drum track and 3 synth sounds (for example on the 101 = 4 tracks). You can't get more "tracks' by recording clips using other sounds right. the clips don't free up tracks/sounds, they're just for arrangement yeah?
It's good that the mc-101 knobs can be assigned to control different parameters. But this would get awfully confusing for someone performing live unless they kept the knob assignments very consistent, right?
For sure; that said, a label appears when you turn a knob, so that's somewhat helpful.
Unless you just accidentally slammed filter resonance beyond the level of pain during a live show! 😱 😂😂😂
SyncdAlien I think there’s a catchup mode for the knobs
this problem is somewhat fixed on microgranny and mfb tanzmaus - you don't change the knob value until you hit the currently saved value while rotating the knob.
wanted the 101 for some time, but then i just got 2 separate samplers (microgranny 2 and qubit nebulae).
driving them with the arturia beatstep pro, sound great with some analog gear :)
Intriguing! 👍 Sounds like I will have to look at your channel!
What kind of music you do you
If only there was a line in on the 101 I would be happy
(i'm new to grooveboxes) What would you miss about having a line in? You can still sample over usb?
This was a great video my friend. I'll have to see if it can compete with my Electribe Sampler in conjunction with Circuit.
thanks for great reviews, could one import their own samples (from SD card) to the 16 parts of a “drum kit” and in essence use a drum kit as a 16 part sample (non-percussion samples) playback track ?
Thanks! And yes
101 for me. Use with 88 key hammer controller as a rompler for playing piano and organ. And for Little grooving on the couch ar times.
what a £479 rompler? Not sure thats really an economically sound choice...
Maquette Music Roland gear always feels a tad overpriced. But the M-101 has SO many sounds, and 4 parts, it has a lot to offer in hardware that we haven’t really seen since the 00s. And then it’d be huge and more expensive JV series racks or something of that ilk...
@@maquettemusic1623 Its 10 mths down the line and my 101 has just cost me £354.77, much more reasonable, tbh no way would i have paid nearly £500.
I find the polyphony of 128 being eaten up very quickly when layering pads and bells on 3 parts. Even with max voice allocation per part the notes can suddenly go silent. It does not replace my 2080 I think which was a big let down.
Hi, fantastic video but I have ONE only question, I want a music production small standalone module (for use without pc or tablet) that can bring me sounds to my keys/pad of my Akai mini mk3 (I would need a midi host) and connect a Boss Rc 500 looper too that is in turn connected to a Stomp and then finally to my guitar. Do you recomend me the Roland MC 101 (in that case I would need to connect and disconnect from the midi in output the akai in order to connect the boss looper for record my guitar loops) or there is another small option that you can recomend like novation circuit tracks or 1010 blackbox (this has an usb host port that let me connect directly the Akai) or another?
Great review as always!
Hello , does 707 has drum synthrsis engine ?
no, just drum samples
Hey Loopop! Awesome as always!! :) Any thoughts on why Roland deny the MC 707 to record pitchbend or modulation information via external hardware like for example the Novation SL Mk 3. The pitch or modulation info comes into the 707 and you can hear the changes but will not be recorded in the sequencer. I know you can use the knobs on the MC for this but it seems counterintuitive if playing with external hardware to use the knobs instead of pitch and mod wheels. What do you think? Any ideas on a workaround? I think this should be a basic feature? Does Roland listen to your input? Best Regards /Mack
Thanks! I hope they listen to me and a lot of others - they actually have in the recent update. To the point - you have three modulation lanes - my workaround for you to be to apply one of the to pitch. I know it’s not perfect...
Roland should make a desktop editor for the synth, so people can make their own presets for the 101.
I wonder if the MIDI mapping features of the 707 firmware update will carry across.
They did. It's the zencore vst.
Dang, I was really hoping I could use the 101 to record sounds I create off of other synths and then sample them. But it doesn't have Line In? How would I get this to work with USB instead?
Thinking the same
My reply is outdated, but it has an SD card.
Can you save a project on the 707 and load it on the 101?
Hi Ziv, I know it's been about six months since the review.
From your recollection, do you recall whether only any four of sixteen midi channels of the MC-101 are available to receive note on/off? In other words, connecting the MC-101 to a DAW would result in up to a maximum of four separate channels being sequenced at once verses 16 channels playable?
For the MC-707 a maximum of eight channels would be playable at once?
Although the midi implementation claims that both can receive on channels 1-16, the engines are limited to 4 or 8 voices respectively? Gratefully.
Yes - MC-707 is eight voices, on 8 midi channels (which can be any eight of midi channels 1-16)
MC-101 is four voices, on any four midi channels
Both will receive control signals on another midi channel, like programme changes to launch scenes, but not note data
Such an impressive video. Very great explanations and good merits for both. By the end I was really wondering if the extra space is worth it though. I am looking for an upgrade from a Volca Sample and the 707 is quite the hunk. Seems like I may end up going with the 101 even though there are some parts I like more about the 707 (mainly the sequence view, but hopefully I can just get used to that workflow). I am messing around with my friends Novation Circuit Tracks and am realizing I cannot do a no-screen device. The various lights are supposed to be intuitive but I think my brain needs numbers and letters even if there is a bit of menu diving for it.
Is there a possibilty to assign the kick to another output to sidechain the rest of the instrumentation on the MC-707?
Hello community,
Need advice!
I would like to optimize the midi connection of my setup for the best ergonomics possible.
Gear: Digitakt + Microfreaks + MC 101 Roland
I also have midi merge midi solutions if needed.
Currently,
Digitakt Out> Midi Merge A in 1> Microfreaks In
Midi Merge A in 2> MC 101
So I can sequence the Microfreaks and the MC 101 with the Digitakt
Microfreaks Out> Midi Merge B In> MC 101
To play the sounds of the MC 101 via the Microfreaks keyboard
I wish I could directly record the sequences of the MC 101 or Microfreaks on the Digitakt, but I'm having trouble ...
Opinions, advice to a neophyte of the South that galley? Thank you in advance !!
Can you acces all the synth parameters via midi? I have a Deluge but the 707 looks much more hands one, beside of that how does the synth engine compare to the Deluge? Thanx in advance! How do you manage to make such fantastic videos? Greetz ✌️🤞👍
Thanks for the kind words! No, you cannot currently access all the synth parameters via MIDI, but it would certainly be awesome if Roland or someone else releases an editor. The synth engine in the 101 has more parameters than the Deluge's, but I guess you could get similar results by layering Deluge presets. The sampling engine on the Deluge has more features though.
hi! deluge or MC-707? can't choose
Thumbs up - production quality: camera angles, lighting, audio and content are all superb. Unfortunately the MC-707 screen is much too small when you think of all of the parameters need to be displayed within a small screen. The MC-707 costing twice as the MC-101 does not deliver any way close to twice the features. The I/O connection ports are much better on the MC-707 than what you get on the MC-101.
Actually since the 101 does not have velocity sensitive keys it looses out on being a sound module. That's a big deal for me. The Zen Core engine can be used for other synths via MIDI as well as Guitar Synths. So Perhaps its got a future. The screen is always too small. I wish they had a mini hdmi plug where another large screen could be plugged into. So simple to address.
@@plexidust5101 it has velocity sensitive keys
Thank you very much for your video, very informative. I am a owner of a MC-505 & MC-909. I am disappointed from the new machines. Those who use the old stuff can understand me.
You are The Professor of Music!
Thanks for the video. I have a few question.
(Mc101)
-in the drumtrack, can you eq different sounds? Or just the kit?
-can you change the last step/sound or just the whole track?
-is there any lfo?
Great review. Thanks a lot!!
Are the letters on the 101 screen bigger? For my old eyes that matters! LOL. DID THEY GET THE MAC OR IOS ISSUE UPDATED?
Always what I need to know mane!
Awesome video thanks for The invaluable information.
....so many things I like about these two boxes I think They both are well thought out designs and great form factors. It’s just such a shame that it’s Lacks basic MIDI capabilities. I was also hoping with all the knobs and faders that this unit might be able to perform some of the features the MX 1 failed to deliver. However not the case Roland seems to have problems with making their gear class compliant - In the age where we all have these small powerful devices I just don’t understand it. Why make a small battery powered Groovebox and not have it class complaint????
I sold my Mx1 because it wasn’t class complaint Not to mention I could only use three channels unless I wanted to invest in their ecosystem. Don’t get me wrong so many things are so cool on these ...maybe Firmware can fix some of it. I don’t think there would be as much criticism of these units if they were priced about $200 less than they are . In my option the price is too inflated for what you’re getting in this competitive market. If the 101 was selling for $370 ish & the 707 was around $799 ish . Roland will be selling these things like hotcakes.
Yeah, i think the price will be the biggest issue with these, especially in the case of 101.
jarkokoo I forget the exact measurements but I think THE 101 comes within a quarter inch of being the same size as the Volcas .... At that price point I can buy five used Volcas for the price of this one machine not saying I would want to do that......just FFT
On the other hand you're getting a multitimbral(4) 128 voice polyphonic synth with sample playback that can also sequence external synths. Plus there's USB Audio out for all 4 tracks sent (if I'm not mistaken) at up to 24-bit/96kHz AND it's battery and USB powered. My guess is firmware updates will really open this thing up.
MacGuffin that’s cool 4 out usb.... is that usb class Compliant? That would be amazing I’m not getting my hopes up with Roland they Don’t seem to put on the episodes on making their products compatible with anything else other than their own ecosystems
Let me know if you have any more insight on the USB connectivity Compatibility
Great video s. One thing I'm trying to figure out. I noticed a comment with concern over midi capabilities. How does it or dosent it work well or at all with such? Thanks
22:30 press and hold CLIP and one of the 4 tracks you want to MUTE on the MC-101, press and hold CLIP and the same track to UN-MUTE the track again.
Wonder if there is any perceivable difference in sound quality or if the DACs are the same.
me too...
Don't have a 707 to compare. But the 101 sounds great
Can I MIDI my MPC Live pads to the MC-101 so that I can have velocity sensitive pads to use with the MC-101?
I can’t confirm but you should be able to. I use a midi keyboard with my 707 and velocity is there 👍🏼
Great discussion. do you think it's easy enough to make / switch multiple Scenes on the 101?
Thanks! Yes, you have up to 8 scenes and it's super easy to create and then switch between them - as I mentioned though, because you don't have dedicated scene buttons like in the 707, you'll need to use the main pads for this.
Hi, have another question. external synths (via MIDI) are not playable on the pads of the MC-707? why ..? Only works if there are MIDI notes in the clip and they are played back. Thank You :-)
You need to set the track to send midi data. By default it doesn't.
A differenc: audio in on the 707? I only have the 01, I don’t know if it’s the case. Thanks for incredible videos !
Hi Looppop, does the 101 recognise velocity data from and external MIDI keyboard. I downloaded the 101 MIDI implementation chart and under velocity it only indicates note on and note off info - not a value between 0 and 127.
As far as the creation of drum loops, would you say one of these would be more inspiring then a Roland drum machine? Or equal?
What are the mixing capabilities of these grooveboxes? Are there any EQ/compressors per track? And what about drum tracks, can individual drum sounds be mixed separately or is it just the whole track?
yes you have EQ per drum pad - as well as a master compressor, plus you can have one "drum kit and compressor" track
I know this video is quite old so you probably won't see my comment, but if you do: I've had the MC-101 for about two months. I love how it sounds-but my big gripe is the workflow and usability. It's really clunky and unintuitive, a lot of obnoxious key commands that you have to remember in order to do simple stuff. Would you say the MC-707 is easier / friendlier to use than the MC-101? Thinking of selling the 101 and upgrading. Don't care so much about size and portability; just want something that will be fun to make music on, and the 101 hasn't proven very fun.
Just a quick note - I saw your comment, really everything I know about the 707 is in my video, hopefully it gives you a good idea of the workflow
Great comparison video, thanks for making it! Is it possible to load an .mpj project file created on the MC-707 on the MC-101? Assuming the project has only 4 tracks.
Thanks! I didn’t do thorough testing but I did try it once and it seemed to work.
Probably been asked before; how many FX per track? At least three at the same time I hope? Thanx for all your sooo informative and relaxed info boosts on instruments, Loopop!!
Per track you have reverb and delay send, plus one MFX (90 effects choice) which is linked to the clip/tone
Mc101 or Blackbox? Which one would you get?
Thank you, excellent video. Question if I may, I am looking for an equivalent to Yamaha QY100, which suited me in the day but after a very very long gap, want to start ‘tinkering’ again because it fascinates me, would this give me that or any suggestions, please?
Thanks! I've never used a QY100
Just curious if the Jupiter XM patches for classic Jupiter, Juno etc... are all in the mc101 as well
Great information thank you
Hi Loopop, You do such a great work with all your videos! ...I just wonder if you can play simultaneous loops (from several pads) in a single Loop Track in the Mc-101. I just can´t find that info. Thank you!
Considering the upgrade to the 707, i love doing everything on the 101. But when introducing samples its a pain to edit. Also even though you chop them up beforehand, I always find myself needing to adjust them on the MC101. Just more buttons and more tracks seems very nice as well.
Wonderful video. Thank you!
This might the video for me. Kinda have some GAS regarding the MC101. Is there any documentation on the soundslist, so far I couldn't find any.
Yes on Roland’s site
@@loopop Err yes on the US site but on the Dutch site there was not.
Cheers.
Are you able to play all four tracks via MIDI IN at once? I'm looking for a portable "sound module" that can also stand on its own. And if that's possible, can you play via MIDI IN even while the tracks are playing from the internal sequence?
You can assign each of the tracks a middle channel or assign them all to the same midi channel. I was able to create a monster poly sound by putting all tracks on the same channel and playing them from external controller. Hope this helps.
Can you save and recall step sequences/patterns separately from saving entire projects?
I'll wait for the in between version...
An MC-404. Interesting. . .
Enoch Dark it’s gonna happen ha
@@Michael_Smith-Red_No.5 and then roland decides to create an MC-3.503.5...
Hi thanks for a great video. I've just bought a second hand 101. I can't get the Sound button to light, do you think it's broken? It still works. Thanks.
you need to update to the latest firmware v. 1.50 that just released
Thank you for the video
Hello friends ..I have a tr8, tb3 and sh201and i have not PC ..i am looking for a workstation to produce .. i am seeing only the mc 707 and polyend tracker..i love house and techno music..what hardware do you recommend me?
Thanks ;)
Its a real bummer they didn't keep the screen on the 101 :/
Agreed. Would have paid an extra $50+ for that.
Hi. Thanks for this amazing video. One question: I have been going through the manuals. Does the 101 have PCM sounds? They miss in the manual.
Thanks! Yes, it has thousands of them
could i use the mc-101 to play back an audio loop melody and build a drum beat and bass sequence around that melody loop? how long can the audio sample be? and then swap out melody loops while keeping the same beat track going? then sequencing the melody or vocal loop to be on beat via time stretch?
yes. regarding loop length the manual says 60 seconds, I haven't tried to stress test this
is it possible to upgrade projects saved on the mc-101 and upload them easily to an mc-707 via SD card? that way if you upgrade from mc-101 to mc-707 if needed without having to reprogram any songs/projects.
I am getting my 707 tomorrow but from what I have read on Reddit, it is possible to "expand" a 101 project by putting it into a 707. Obviously not the other way around, though I do wonder if a 4 track limited 707 project would transfer smoothly to a 101...
hello, i have had mine for a few days. the instrument is simple but has a lot of options and menus.... track one is relegated to drums by default. Can I change this and, for example, make four tone tracks or does the first one always remain for drums?
As far as I remember, you can delete it and then assign it to whatever you want. Try it out and let me know!
is there insert reverb, per track / or single drum ??
That's cool and useful! Thanks!