Well, you sold me. I've been doing on ton of research on all the various stand-alone groove boxes out there, and this one clicks all the boxes for me. Thanks for the great demo.
With the 1.3 Update you can set the step length and next action per clip. So you could set a clip to play 128 steps, then play the next clip. Do that the same on each row and you could have a pseudo song mode. You can also launch a row at a time using wither Shift+Step for the matching row, or using the cursor and highlight a row.
You have to dig deep on this thing to really get its full potential. And I mean menu diving like I’ve never encountered, even by Elektron standards. But, when you really learn this instrument, It is worth way more than the selling price. This is a live performance piece and a studio production piece. A synth and drum machine and a sampler. All at a cost that is lower than having to buy all these types of units separately. I was a bit overwhelmed at first and didn’t get the best of It until I spent a few days locked in my studio Messing around with It. But one if you can.
Brendon Brooks I have used every Elektron product except for an Octatrack. I’ve stayed away from that unit because so many people tell me it is just to heavy of a workflow to make great use of it. I will say that adjustment of certain parameters per sound is somewhat nonsensical on the MC. Take a simple ADSR of a sample. They don’t call the parts Attack, Decay, Sustain, Release. Instead it’s something like setting 1,2,3,4. The manual you get online tells you what each setting represents, but wh tv not just say attack and so on? It’s still powerful though. Worth the money
Digitakt has a crap menu and very cheap button, they still have to work on these 2, not mentioning about keyboard lack of playing synth on it. Totally expensive tool just for some of its functions.
I have a baby on the way so I’m selling a lot of gear, downsizing and using the 707 as my centerpiece with an Elektron A4, a Micorfreak, and some Volcas. This comment has me excited.
I never watch anything related to music. I don't play music. But this video was on my recommendations for some reason so I clicked on this video and I found it very interesting. Thanks!
@@BargenMusic I think digital. When I was in Japan, I saw that there were capsule machines selling old arcade sound chips. I always thought it would be cool to use those to make modern music
MC-707 owner here. There is still no song mode, but it's on the list of feature requests. One you skipped was that you can use the 'Scene' buttons on the left to create 8 variations of any group of clips for instant recall. One other thing of note is that you can also edit the Scatter function to create your own custom stutters and effects. Yes, it truly is a very deep groovebox. The Shift button being on the left becomes pretty second nature after a bit. Great overview, Red!
I was scanning these comments to see if anyone answered about song mode. So you can’t have it automatically play through different parts, ie verse, chorus etc?
I would have thought the song mode would be (one of) the selling points, for the bigger machine compared to the smaller mc101?! Anyway, apart from that looks like an awesome music making machine
I just picked up an MC707 and after watching A LOT of really unhelpful videos to get a better feel for the unit, I have to commend you. This is so informative and digestible. Thanks so much!
Ordered one the other day. Watched a ton of video's on this and not one explained the record in feature. Blown away! Very intuitively explained, cheers.
No computers were harmed in the making of this video. I love how stand-alone this thing is. I've tried the Korg Electribe and the Nano Circuit, but his is so much more powerful.
Multicolor cables (and multicolor labels for black cables) are all that stand between me and utter madness in my studio. Once you reach a certain number of devices and a certain degree of connectivity, the idea of rigorous cable management goes out the window. Being able to spot both ends of a color-coded cable system is a necessity for maintaining my sanity
Love seeing how your sound adapts to all these different pieces of gear. It's a shame this is going back to Roland, I'd love to see a Circuit Studies style project with it.
i love my MC707 it's amazing, i would just never think of producing a whole track with just one machine. But i thought i read somewhere M.I.A. made her entire first album on the MC505? And so that's just like, my opinion, man.
And to think the sampling has only been even further improved on the MC-707 since this video. I've been enjoying mine a lot since I got it a few months ago, other than the still lacking proper song mode that's easy to work with still probably my favorite groovebox on the market just from a what it can do standpoint.
Oh man, I wish the Deluge had a keyboard and kit mode where the 16x8 grid was 8x4 (2x2 deluge pads = one big pad)... Watching this vid, I realize how nice a "standard" keyboard and kit layout is. Great walkthrough!
Holy Crap! You filled in so many of the holes in my knowledge about the interface of the MC 707! Good stuff! If I hadn't bought the MC Last year I would DEFINITELY buy one now! Thank you so much for doing this series. If you Put up a Patreon page for the internet to buy you an MC I would donate to it just to get the tutorials and explanations that you would oh so casually drop in your videos! Great Stuff man! Thanks!
Excellent! I am about to get one of these, this has been one of the best videos about the 707 I have seen so far. The only problem is I will feel very incompetent for a long time!
Sorry bout that job situation, but GOD will provide.. 🍃- your review on the 707 is Awsumm 👍🏾. Funny thing is I find the 707 more valuable and useful than Rowlands new mv1- I sent mine back after being so frustrated what its workflow and interphase.. and I like how your explanation of the unit is simple and understanding.. you can do most anything on this can you can other well known drm/ machines.
own it, agree with your comments. I like how you combined discussion with solid examples of actual use. 21:25 clip chaining added in update 1.3 out already
Every time I see this product I get jealous that I just have an MPC Live but then I look at the specs and realize I've got the best beat machine on the market. The update coming next week makes it even more powerful. However, this instrument looks awesome for live performance and improv. The MPC has a bit of challenge when you want to improv....
I think they're just very ... similarly-different machines. I was thinking about an MPC Live/One instead but went for the 707 because of the synth engine, which there isn't really any competition to within that ecosystem. but the sampling/etc. is definitely more powerful in the Live/One. similar-ish machines but with a really different sort of workflow, as a result
The Sunshine Group funny, I have a Deluge and feel a bit of the same thing. The Deluge beats this thing hands down as a sequencer with fast workflow (for me at least). But I like the many many many sounds on the Roland.
Yeah, the MC-707 seems really similar to a MPC Live or MPC One. But the MPC has more sophisticated song sequencing and multisampling, while the MC-707 has a much more powerful synth engine and effects. It seems like the biggest difference is the workflow though. The Deluge is also incredibly powerful, and more DAW-like. Definitely a good option. Lacks a screen, but makes up for it in sheer power and flexibility. I ended up getting a Digitakt instead, before the current-gen Akai or Roland devices came out, and before the Deluge had an arranger mode. It's okay, but I've spent much of the time since then wanting something else. The Digitakt's workflow isn't great for me, it's mediocre at midi, and Elektron's decision to tie it to proprietary software has artificially crippled it by making some of its best features inaccessible. So I end up using it just as a drum machine, instead of a groovebox.
Have bought the MPC live as well. And actually enjoy the synth plugins that they added a few updates ago. Hope they will add some more in future updates. The only problem I have is that when you have a device that can do so much, it’s not a pick up an play device. That’s why I sometimes still play with my Novation circuit.
Amen the "sigh" on the loaner situation. I was once sent a product by Roland - one of their cheapest - and then proceeded to show it (as they had requested I do so) during multiple public workshops and classes in schools. I was pretty taken aback (uh, surprised) when they asked for it back. I didn't get the logic of the whole thing - and it would have been best if this had been communicated right from the start - I might have put the appropriate amount of energy in sharing my enthusiasm for it. Bravo that you did so nonetheless Jeremy.
Digitakt / tone user here. They went so deep with the engine that suddenly the hardware feels limiting. Looks like a really useful bit of kit able to replace most of your other gear if you dive deep, but there lies the problem - it doesn't look fun to dive into. This screen UI is pure horror to my eyes and the industrial design speaks David Guetta to me:) Just lacks any cool factor which is sad cause I want to like it..
I agree. I own one and haven't considered digging into the engine because of the tiny screen nonsense. I'm thinking of pairing it with a big old midi controller with dozens of knobs to get past that. Also, I'm hoping a community develops around patches to give me a head start.
@@strangersun7721 I've disliked Aira branded gear so far so I'm not sure if the comparison was meant to be a positive one? But it did come with the logo on the box and looks damn close to the TR8s. Either way, I love the 707
To be honest, I didn't like the design of Elektron gear after their black boxes (OT, AR, AK) as well. Wish the MC707 would look a bit more retro sexy instead of carnival, but I think I can live with it.
Reverb has these down to a decent price. This just sold me. I hope you're making enough from this as a full time job J. Sorry to hear about the layoff.
Also bought the mc707 - like this kind of fast and nice workflow of such small packaged boxes! Best one since the mc909 which endet for me because all buttons didn´t work anymore:( great tutorial by the way!!!
This thing gives me a really good vibe. Horizontal sequencer. Immediate faders and whatever. This sounds.... more mainstream than Elektron gear and I think I'll go for it eventually. I write bread and butter so why not. I mean, I should just be in my DAW but lately I've gotten better at screwing around with gear.
WOW! what a great review, Roland ought to be paying you, because before I watched this Vid I only had a vague idea of the capabilities of the 707, and it's now fueled my GAS, I am thinking of getting the 707 AND a TR8-S as a pair when my current payment plan ends in May.
Really enjoyed this video! I've got the MC-101, which has a bunch of the stuff in this model. You've inspired me to dig in and figure out more of what it can do. Thanks! :)
I’m between the 707 and the octatrack. The 707 seems to do much more and be less complex. That being said, I know people love the octatrack. I just don’t know how much of that has to do with function vs the unquestionable elektron cool factor. Interested in any thoughts about this vs the OT would be appreciated!
Loved the Datsunn vibes in the back half; you always do a great job at composition, demonstration, and editing to keep the pace engaging -- keep up the awesome stuff Jeremy :)
@@RedMeansRecording he is single-handedly responsible for me buying a Maschine MK3, and then selling in it in frustration when I was too lazy to put the time in to try and do what he does. xD
Elektron dres cool hardware they’re way overpriced. I just had an OT2 and returned it. I loved it but I had buyers remorse. Went with the MPC One which is another gem like the MC 707 here.
Really great review. (as always) I'm glad you went deeper into the creative aspects of the MC707. Now I'm wondering if I still want to buy the TR-8s, although FM drum programming is enticing.
Can’t believe Roland asked you to return this but sent Gabe Miller one to keep? No disrespect to him but you’ve been doing amazing tutorials on here so much longer, not to mention your follower count. I don’t understand companies’ motivations sometimes.
@@TB-wvvvw Well, it's a matter of taste, but Jeremy is arguably the better musician. But when I wrote "Mr Groovebox", I meant that Gabe Miller has built his entire TH-cam channel around reviewing grooveboxes, comparing them on a technical and workflow level, and made tons of content aimed at people who are looking for and/or trying to get better at using their grooveboxes. Given how much Gabe has probably driven sales of the MC-101 over the last two year, it's hardly surprising that Roland would want to send him a free 707 in the hopes that it would boost 707 sales similarly and lead to 20+ original videos by Gabe. That clearly would never happen if the device was given to Jeremy instead. Hope that makes sense.
"what does that lofi compressor sounds like on this" i remember having a beat playing while running through the effects until it landed on the lofi compressor. from that moment i fel in love with the 707 gizmo.
Great overview and a brilliant insight into what this box really is. I have a TR-8S, Digitone and Analog4 here and really want to like the 707 but I feel it's slightly too expensive for what it offers and there are some omissions that I find annoying. I'd like to have seen at least one 48v XLR input, and a software editor for the synthesis engine. When I sit down at one of these boxes I really don't feel like getting into a heavy sound design session with them, and that's where I feel Elektron nailed it with Overbridge. It's also a shame that the clip launch wasn't a bit better thought out as it should really have worked a bit more like Ableton Live with scene launching too....maybe. In any case, keep doing what you're doing. I hope the transition to full time Youtubist pans out for you!
I think it does have software editor now. Plus, each firmware update adds 2-3 very useful features. I have the MC 101, which is surprisingly powerful for the price. Doesn’t have access to the synth engine, but you get the same presets (3500ish synth/pcm, 130ish kits, and 716 drum samples). The 101 only has four tracks, but each drum track has 16 kit pieces, and even more if you use an external keyboard.
Daaaamn that's an awesome video, love the MC707 ! Long time binge watcher of your channel, I bought an OP-Z and now that I see this wonderful presentation, I kinda dream of a DAW-less setup I could use to produce songs. Actually, I don't know if this is the right place to be asking this but, what's everyone thoughts about this groovebox ? I'm hesitant to grab a Deluge but this Roland seems so cool, with a separate FX loop and a more powerful synth engine (and the clip chain seems actually like a huge upgrade) ... Not to mention the cool workflow ! Keep up the outstanding work Jeremy !
$999 new, not cheap, but less than the OP-1 with a lot more tracks and capabilities. Still more than the Deluge with pretty comparable feature set. I love mine.
I have a novation circuit that I’ve had a lot of fun with, but man, this thing looks incredible. I can’t afford to have both though. Would I miss anything about the novation circuit if I swapped it for this? I’m guessing no? Maybe just the portability?
What would you say is a better standalone machine (pound for pound) all recent updates considered, MC 707 1.3 v MPC 2.8. Been considering one or the other and would love to hear your opinions people.
Dope review! Have you tried hooking it up to your modular? How's the sequencing capabilities of MC-707? Can you send anything else to modular apart from CV Pitch and Gate? e.g. motion sequencing parameters? LFOs, etc? cheers
Have not seen many your videos in my subscription list lately. Then again I am watching much less YT thane I used to (for the better tbh). But I am glad I saw this one. Keep up the good work :D
YEA RIGHT. WE ARE THINKING OF GETTING THIS. SHARING LOAD BETWEEN THE TWO AND HAVING THIS MORE SPECIFIED FOR DRUM GROOVES . . . OOOPS SORRY ABOUT THE CAPITALS @@aquaticborealis4877
I once owned the Mx-1, which I loved, and I might have kept it if the 707 had that special usb output that EVERY other piece of Aira gear has. I don’t understand why Roland decided that this beast of a groove box should depart from that standard. I honestly sold my Mx-1 because of it. Goodbye Roland. Hello Elektron! Great review though!
This was a really useful video and helped get me off the fence, so many thanks. I was wondering if you came up against the sample & hold LFO during your time with the device? As far as I can see it's derived from a static wave, which means if you use it with key trigger at a slow speed, say to get a different cutoff level on each note, you get the same pattern every time. This feels like a very basic oversight, so I'm trying to see if there's a workaround - but without any luck so far.
You make me lament my lack of talent. On another note, if they would do THREE things for me I would love it more: 1. a true arpeggiator 2. I want to be able to add more than 16 sounds to a drum kit 3. The ability to choose note assign to pads so I can sync external drum machines that have weird note assignments.
@@RedMeansRecording I have been let down by SO many Roland grooveboxes, starting with the 303, 505 and SP808.. to name a few. They knocked it out of the fucking park with this one. I didn't even want to believe it for months after the release until it slowly dawned on me after watching HOURS of footage.
Shame you can't keep it. It Thank you for the demo! I like that you dove into the engine and showed a bit of sound design workflow. Very much appreciated! (; As for loopers, I had no use for them either. Recently though I jammed with a friend and his synth had no sequencer, so we used Deluges looper to record it, worked likr a charm, sloppy timing notwithstanding.
Well, you sold me. I've been doing on ton of research on all the various stand-alone groove boxes out there, and this one clicks all the boxes for me. Thanks for the great demo.
With the 1.3 Update you can set the step length and next action per clip. So you could set a clip to play 128 steps, then play the next clip. Do that the same on each row and you could have a pseudo song mode. You can also launch a row at a time using wither Shift+Step for the matching row, or using the cursor and highlight a row.
You have to dig deep on this thing to really get its full potential. And I mean menu diving like I’ve never encountered, even by Elektron standards. But, when you really learn this instrument, It is worth way more than the selling price. This is a live performance piece and a studio production piece. A synth and drum machine and a sampler. All at a cost that is lower than having to buy all these types of units separately. I was a bit overwhelmed at first and didn’t get the best of It until I spent a few days locked in my studio Messing around with It. But one if you can.
hoping to but one in the near future.
Is it as complicated as an Octatrack?
Brendon Brooks I have used every Elektron product except for an Octatrack. I’ve stayed away from that unit because so many people tell me it is just to heavy of a workflow to make great use of it. I will say that adjustment of certain parameters per sound is somewhat nonsensical on the MC. Take a simple ADSR of a sample. They don’t call the parts Attack, Decay, Sustain, Release. Instead it’s something like setting 1,2,3,4. The manual you get online tells you what each setting represents, but wh tv not just say attack and so on? It’s still powerful though. Worth the money
Digitakt has a crap menu and very cheap button, they still have to work on these 2, not mentioning about keyboard lack of playing synth on it. Totally expensive tool just for some of its functions.
I have a baby on the way so I’m selling a lot of gear, downsizing and using the 707 as my centerpiece with an Elektron A4, a Micorfreak, and some Volcas. This comment has me excited.
I never watch anything related to music. I don't play music. But this video was on my recommendations for some reason so I clicked on this video and I found it very interesting. Thanks!
welcome to the very strange community that is: electronic music
Run away quickly before you gain an unquenchable thirst for buying synthesizers.
vedi0boy You are doomed now. Digital or Analog?
@@BargenMusic I think digital. When I was in Japan, I saw that there were capsule machines selling old arcade sound chips. I always thought it would be cool to use those to make modern music
That's how it gets ya. Next thing you know you'll be shopping for a mixer. I wish you many years of lovely music making!
MC-707 owner here. There is still no song mode, but it's on the list of feature requests. One you skipped was that you can use the 'Scene' buttons on the left to create 8 variations of any group of clips for instant recall. One other thing of note is that you can also edit the Scatter function to create your own custom stutters and effects. Yes, it truly is a very deep groovebox. The Shift button being on the left becomes pretty second nature after a bit. Great overview, Red!
I was scanning these comments to see if anyone answered about song mode. So you can’t have it automatically play through different parts, ie verse, chorus etc?
I would have thought the song mode would be (one of) the selling points, for the bigger machine compared to the smaller mc101?! Anyway, apart from that looks like an awesome music making machine
I know this may be late, but you can "clip chain" where you automate the clips to play in a custom order on a single track
I just picked up an MC707 and after watching A LOT of really unhelpful videos to get a better feel for the unit, I have to commend you. This is so informative and digestible. Thanks so much!
I echo this sentiment.
Ordered one the other day. Watched a ton of video's on this and not one explained the record in feature. Blown away!
Very intuitively explained, cheers.
Can you elaborate/explain what that means?
No computers were harmed in the making of this video. I love how stand-alone this thing is. I've tried the Korg Electribe and the Nano Circuit, but his is so much more powerful.
Those are the brightest cables I've ever seen in my life. Beyond that, I don't know what else matters.
Multicolor cables (and multicolor labels for black cables) are all that stand between me and utter madness in my studio. Once you reach a certain number of devices and a certain degree of connectivity, the idea of rigorous cable management goes out the window. Being able to spot both ends of a color-coded cable system is a necessity for maintaining my sanity
Love seeing how your sound adapts to all these different pieces of gear. It's a shame this is going back to Roland, I'd love to see a Circuit Studies style project with it.
Yes, please
i love my MC707 it's amazing, i would just never think of producing a whole track with just one machine. But i thought i read somewhere M.I.A. made her entire first album on the MC505? And so that's just like, my opinion, man.
imma bout to see if i can somehow use the random sound/drum generator to fill in the drums onna kit...
And to think the sampling has only been even further improved on the MC-707 since this video. I've been enjoying mine a lot since I got it a few months ago, other than the still lacking proper song mode that's easy to work with still probably my favorite groovebox on the market just from a what it can do standpoint.
Oh man, I wish the Deluge had a keyboard and kit mode where the 16x8 grid was 8x4 (2x2 deluge pads = one big pad)... Watching this vid, I realize how nice a "standard" keyboard and kit layout is. Great walkthrough!
How are you liking the Deluge these days? Did you get an MC-707?
i use this as a mixer. its the best mixer ever made. effects are incredible
Holy Crap! You filled in so many of the holes in my knowledge about the interface of the MC 707! Good stuff! If I hadn't bought the MC Last year I would DEFINITELY buy one now! Thank you so much for doing this series. If you Put up a Patreon page for the internet to buy you an MC I would donate to it just to get the tutorials and explanations that you would oh so casually drop in your videos! Great Stuff man! Thanks!
www.patreon.com/redmeansrecording
Man, when you added that distorted guitar/bass this thing really came alive!
that's definitely the benefit of having PCM stuff as opposed to just subtraction synthesis
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Sold my OPZ to finance a purchase of one of these. No comparison. Love the vids ✊
DAMN that intro track is 🔥🔥🔥
This is the best MC707 video i've seen, man, you rock!
watching this video I was very anxious seeing that glass near the gear, is one of my first rules, no liquids near my equipment.
I'm sure it's one of them cups you can't knock over
I shared a beer with my beatstep pro. turns out the beatstep cannot metabolize alcohol. who knew.
My cat knocked a glass of milk my mixer recently...
I believe he always has a beverage and a random toy or something in the shot. But I share your concern!
Thank you for this man...I've been thinking about getting this for almost a year...I'm going to order one now! Sorry to hear about your job.
This is the only MC707 video that includes more action to use and less boaring talk. I love how you have used the box to produce something quickly.
Excellent! I am about to get one of these, this has been one of the best videos about the 707 I have seen so far. The only problem is I will feel very incompetent for a long time!
I know where you are coming from! My sex drive seems to have diminished since lockdown, OH SORRY you said incompetent, my bad lol.
Sorry bout that job situation, but GOD will provide.. 🍃- your review on the 707 is Awsumm 👍🏾. Funny thing is I find the 707 more valuable and useful than Rowlands new mv1- I sent mine back after being so frustrated what its workflow and interphase.. and I like how your explanation of the unit is simple and understanding.. you can do most anything on this can you can other well known drm/ machines.
I was trying to figure out what to spend my stimulus check on. Thanks Jeremy.
own it, agree with your comments. I like how you combined discussion with solid examples of actual use. 21:25 clip chaining added in update 1.3 out already
You and that Loopop dude always have some of the very best demo vids, oh yeah and that Accurate beats dude in scandinavia . This vid rules ! .
.... do you ever sleep ? the cadence and quality of your videos is stunning ) you have my respect.
i love to sleep
Every time I see this product I get jealous that I just have an MPC Live but then I look at the specs and realize I've got the best beat machine on the market. The update coming next week makes it even more powerful.
However, this instrument looks awesome for live performance and improv. The MPC has a bit of challenge when you want to improv....
I think they're just very ... similarly-different machines. I was thinking about an MPC Live/One instead but went for the 707 because of the synth engine, which there isn't really any competition to within that ecosystem. but the sampling/etc. is definitely more powerful in the Live/One. similar-ish machines but with a really different sort of workflow, as a result
The Sunshine Group funny, I have a Deluge and feel a bit of the same thing. The Deluge beats this thing hands down as a sequencer with fast workflow (for me at least). But I like the many many many sounds on the Roland.
Yeah, the MC-707 seems really similar to a MPC Live or MPC One. But the MPC has more sophisticated song sequencing and multisampling, while the MC-707 has a much more powerful synth engine and effects. It seems like the biggest difference is the workflow though.
The Deluge is also incredibly powerful, and more DAW-like. Definitely a good option. Lacks a screen, but makes up for it in sheer power and flexibility.
I ended up getting a Digitakt instead, before the current-gen Akai or Roland devices came out, and before the Deluge had an arranger mode. It's okay, but I've spent much of the time since then wanting something else. The Digitakt's workflow isn't great for me, it's mediocre at midi, and Elektron's decision to tie it to proprietary software has artificially crippled it by making some of its best features inaccessible. So I end up using it just as a drum machine, instead of a groovebox.
Jan Tuitman A deluge with a MC-101 would be the solution
Have bought the MPC live as well. And actually enjoy the synth plugins that they added a few updates ago. Hope they will add some more in future updates.
The only problem I have is that when you have a device that can do so much, it’s not a pick up an play device. That’s why I sometimes still play with my Novation circuit.
Amen the "sigh" on the loaner situation. I was once sent a product by Roland - one of their cheapest - and then proceeded to show it (as they had requested I do so) during multiple public workshops and classes in schools. I was pretty taken aback (uh, surprised) when they asked for it back. I didn't get the logic of the whole thing - and it would have been best if this had been communicated right from the start - I might have put the appropriate amount of energy in sharing my enthusiasm for it. Bravo that you did so nonetheless Jeremy.
ugh that sucks. sorry you had to go through that.
I hope Roland cut you a check？
When we look inside ourselves, we can all find a little Tycho 🤩
Digitakt / tone user here. They went so deep with the engine that suddenly the hardware feels limiting. Looks like a really useful bit of kit able to replace most of your other gear if you dive deep, but there lies the problem - it doesn't look fun to dive into. This screen UI is pure horror to my eyes and the industrial design speaks David Guetta to me:) Just lacks any cool factor which is sad cause I want to like it..
yeah, its weird having what amounts to a workstation engine in a groovebox, but the versatility is undeniable.
I agree. I own one and haven't considered digging into the engine because of the tiny screen nonsense. I'm thinking of pairing it with a big old midi controller with dozens of knobs to get past that.
Also, I'm hoping a community develops around patches to give me a head start.
Good observations. In other words, "It's a Roland Aria style device".
@@strangersun7721 I've disliked Aira branded gear so far so I'm not sure if the comparison was meant to be a positive one? But it did come with the logo on the box and looks damn close to the TR8s. Either way, I love the 707
To be honest, I didn't like the design of Elektron gear after their black boxes (OT, AR, AK) as well.
Wish the MC707 would look a bit more retro sexy instead of carnival, but I think I can live with it.
Good job! Dont forget to hold on shift whie turning the knobs to avoid unnecessary moves though
Reverb has these down to a decent price. This just sold me. I hope you're making enough from this as a full time job J. Sorry to hear about the layoff.
I hope you're right.
Really nice work on this! I wish it could open my mc-505 project files that have been sitting on a hard drive for 15 years :(
Best and I can see you producing a song for an artist with this hardware.
Also bought the mc707 - like this kind of fast and nice workflow of such small packaged boxes! Best one since the mc909 which endet for me because all buttons didn´t work anymore:( great tutorial by the way!!!
Bought this and sold my Deluge! Absolutely no regrets!
I had a deluge also. Always lookin for the best “one box that does it all”. Is this much bigger than the Deluge?
What was the main benefits over the Deluge, I own one and I'm not too sure either
Same here... and a MC-101, just for the road ;-)
Got this wonderful piece about a year back, couldn't agree with you more 👍
This thing gives me a really good vibe. Horizontal sequencer. Immediate faders and whatever.
This sounds.... more mainstream than Elektron gear and I think I'll go for it eventually. I write bread and butter so why not. I mean, I should just be in my DAW but lately I've gotten better at screwing around with gear.
The little part 10:22 sold me
That's all I needed to hear 😂
WOW! what a great review, Roland ought to be paying you, because before I watched this Vid I only had a vague idea of the capabilities of the 707, and it's now fueled my GAS, I am thinking of getting the 707 AND a TR8-S as a pair when my current payment plan ends in May.
I’m amazed by how well you can play that weird 1 octave keyboard!
Left arm ink really poppin in this video. Good aesthetic here
I just discovered the "Vibrance" control in my color correction software and I love it.
@@RedMeansRecording the MC-707s colorfulness really shows it off too :P
Great review/video. I’ve seen mc707 videos before but none were as comprehensive or as fun as this one
Great overview, much to learn with the MC. Still trying to work out the basics! Never realized how powerful it was.
Its all so clear now
Highly underrated machine
Really enjoyed this video! I've got the MC-101, which has a bunch of the stuff in this model. You've inspired me to dig in and figure out more of what it can do. Thanks! :)
the mc 101 seems really fun!
Your "generic bullsh!t" is my awesome groove when I watch you on my (stationary) bike 🙃😁🤩 thank you!!
I’m between the 707 and the octatrack. The 707 seems to do much more and be less complex. That being said, I know people love the octatrack. I just don’t know how much of that has to do with function vs the unquestionable elektron cool factor. Interested in any thoughts about this vs the OT would be appreciated!
I can't stand the life-sucking antiquated tiny-screen menu diving on the Electron stuff... There's no 'cool factor' in any of it...
Thanks for the hard work. This really helped me out with the overview and your delivery was fantastic.
Great video! I wish every machine had 2 shift of function buttons, one on each side :D
Sounds incredible! 🔥 Excellent work! 🔥🔥🔥
Loved the Datsunn vibes in the back half; you always do a great job at composition, demonstration, and editing to keep the pace engaging -- keep up the awesome stuff Jeremy :)
Datsunn is such a huge inspiration!!
@@RedMeansRecording he is single-handedly responsible for me buying a Maschine MK3, and then selling in it in frustration when I was too lazy to put the time in to try and do what he does. xD
He wants the Precious. Always he is looking for it. And the Precious is wanting to go back to him...
good discussion. like the sample chopping part
I got one of these and sold most of my rig because it replaced everything. For my needs it's the elektron killer... Except for fm stuff
Elektron dres cool hardware they’re way overpriced. I just had an OT2 and returned it. I loved it but I had buyers remorse. Went with the MPC One which is another gem like the MC 707 here.
Really great review. (as always) I'm glad you went deeper into the creative aspects of the MC707. Now I'm wondering if I still want to buy the TR-8s, although FM drum programming is enticing.
Stuff some fm drums samples in this one, this vs the tr8s is like a Ferrari vs a toyota
18:12 to 20:00
So freakin badass
Can’t believe Roland asked you to return this but sent Gabe Miller one to keep? No disrespect to him but you’ve been doing amazing tutorials on here so much longer, not to mention your follower count. I don’t understand companies’ motivations sometimes.
To be fair, Gabe Miller is Mr Groovebox, and the MC-707 is a groovebox.
@@TB-wvvvw Well, it's a matter of taste, but Jeremy is arguably the better musician. But when I wrote "Mr Groovebox", I meant that Gabe Miller has built his entire TH-cam channel around reviewing grooveboxes, comparing them on a technical and workflow level, and made tons of content aimed at people who are looking for and/or trying to get better at using their grooveboxes. Given how much Gabe has probably driven sales of the MC-101 over the last two year, it's hardly surprising that Roland would want to send him a free 707 in the hopes that it would boost 707 sales similarly and lead to 20+ original videos by Gabe. That clearly would never happen if the device was given to Jeremy instead. Hope that makes sense.
"what does that lofi compressor sounds like on this" i remember having a beat playing while running through the effects until it landed on the lofi compressor. from that moment i fel in love with the 707 gizmo.
MC-303 for life!
oh yeah, I had one back in the day. Why did I sell it :-s, such a lovely silver machine!
If only deluge could have that display!! ... and velocity pads also pls
I want the intro song in my soundtrack to life please 😅
First track sounds very Com Truise inspired. Nice.
Great overview and a brilliant insight into what this box really is. I have a TR-8S, Digitone and Analog4 here and really want to like the 707 but I feel it's slightly too expensive for what it offers and there are some omissions that I find annoying. I'd like to have seen at least one 48v XLR input, and a software editor for the synthesis engine. When I sit down at one of these boxes I really don't feel like getting into a heavy sound design session with them, and that's where I feel Elektron nailed it with Overbridge. It's also a shame that the clip launch wasn't a bit better thought out as it should really have worked a bit more like Ableton Live with scene launching too....maybe.
In any case, keep doing what you're doing. I hope the transition to full time Youtubist pans out for you!
It has got scene launching. I agree on the missing XLR. That would have been nice
I think it does have software editor now. Plus, each firmware update adds 2-3 very useful features. I have the MC 101, which is surprisingly powerful for the price. Doesn’t have access to the synth engine, but you get the same presets (3500ish synth/pcm, 130ish kits, and 716 drum samples).
The 101 only has four tracks, but each drum track has 16 kit pieces, and even more if you use an external keyboard.
Yes, apparently the Zenology Pro software can export to this device, which is pretty cool
@@BluffMunkey how it is possible?
Daaaamn that's an awesome video, love the MC707 ! Long time binge watcher of your channel, I bought an OP-Z and now that I see this wonderful presentation, I kinda dream of a DAW-less setup I could use to produce songs.
Actually, I don't know if this is the right place to be asking this but, what's everyone thoughts about this groovebox ? I'm hesitant to grab a Deluge but this Roland seems so cool, with a separate FX loop and a more powerful synth engine (and the clip chain seems actually like a huge upgrade) ... Not to mention the cool workflow !
Keep up the outstanding work Jeremy !
Every video I watch I want one more and more.
this is something i would like to own.
im afraid to look up the price.
www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MC707--roland-mc-707-groovebox
It’s not as bad as you think ....especially used.
honestly, as everyone else has said it's not bad at all for what it can do. ... less than the OP-1, at any rate.
$999 new, not cheap, but less than the OP-1 with a lot more tracks and capabilities. Still more than the Deluge with pretty comparable feature set. I love mine.
Annie Sthesia you love which? The Mc or the deluge?
Nice video Jeremy I love my MC-707.
When he busted out the Jazz piano I literally laughed in joy. I loved it.
I have a novation circuit that I’ve had a lot of fun with, but man, this thing looks incredible. I can’t afford to have both though. Would I miss anything about the novation circuit if I swapped it for this? I’m guessing no? Maybe just the portability?
This video coming the day before mine hopefully arrives in the mail.
Good playing
What would you say is a better standalone machine (pound for pound) all recent updates considered, MC 707 1.3 v MPC 2.8. Been considering one or the other and would love to hear your opinions people.
I would love an auto sync/time warp feature in this unit.
"that bullshit garbage''
Was beautiful i zoned out into a post apocalyptic world where mechas are fighting in a desert k
Great job Jeremy and thanks. Is there a way to save your fav sounds/presets as FAV's?
Thanks for this demo. Super helpful, as always.
Dope review! Have you tried hooking it up to your modular? How's the sequencing capabilities of MC-707? Can you send anything else to modular apart from CV Pitch and Gate? e.g. motion sequencing parameters? LFOs, etc? cheers
17:45 and that’s why I love techno 😀
Hope you get a new job soon, or a ton of Patreons
Have not seen many your videos in my subscription list lately. Then again I am watching much less YT thane I used to (for the better tbh). But I am glad I saw this one. Keep up the good work :D
Synth engine on the 707 or a minilogue xd? I really love my synth but I’m really digging the groove boxes.
Would you say this occupies the same space as the Synthstrom Deluge? Is there any value in using both, or would it be more of an either/or situation?
You make a decision on this?
YEA RIGHT. WE ARE THINKING OF GETTING THIS. SHARING LOAD BETWEEN THE TWO AND HAVING THIS MORE SPECIFIED FOR DRUM GROOVES
. . . OOOPS SORRY ABOUT THE CAPITALS @@aquaticborealis4877
Nice! Looks fun once you get the hang of it. Can you program it to have odd time signatures?
Dude I love your content! Thanks for all your tutorials!
Musicians sell gear, this guy is a musician.
I once owned the Mx-1, which I loved, and I might have kept it if the 707 had that special usb output that EVERY other piece of Aira gear has. I don’t understand why Roland decided that this beast of a groove box should depart from that standard. I honestly sold my Mx-1 because of it. Goodbye Roland. Hello Elektron!
Great review though!
Hah... You realise it does? My 707 is hooked up to my MX-1 via usb
Whoops
Another way to earn some income might be to sell some drum kits for this as there aren't many available.
This was a really useful video and helped get me off the fence, so many thanks. I was wondering if you came up against the sample & hold LFO during your time with the device? As far as I can see it's derived from a static wave, which means if you use it with key trigger at a slow speed, say to get a different cutoff level on each note, you get the same pattern every time. This feels like a very basic oversight, so I'm trying to see if there's a workaround - but without any luck so far.
Nice groove box. I've never liken the feel or look of the encoders in the Aira line and wish they'd move on.
I would’ve bought so many of their stuff. No idea why they like green leds so much 🤮
@@Claidheambmor well there are other great looking stuff that you can make great music on... there are options
man, I was dancing in the house to your demo :)
You make me lament my lack of talent. On another note, if they would do THREE things for me I would love it more:
1. a true arpeggiator
2. I want to be able to add more than 16 sounds to a drum kit
3. The ability to choose note assign to pads so I can sync external drum machines that have weird note assignments.
agree on all counts
As far as future videos go, I'd love to see you deep dive into sound design on the 707.
@@RedMeansRecording I have been let down by SO many Roland grooveboxes, starting with the 303, 505 and SP808.. to name a few. They knocked it out of the fucking park with this one. I didn't even want to believe it for months after the release until it slowly dawned on me after watching HOURS of footage.
I think you'd want to pair the 707 with the TR8s to get more flexibility in the drum kits. I agree completely about the arpeggiator though!
A 'Undo' would be appreciated too
Love the constant content! Can't wait for the Nord Drum3 vid.
Thanks for the review. Great job!! I’m on the fence with this unit this helped a lot.
Shame you can't keep it. It Thank you for the demo! I like that you dove into the engine and showed a bit of sound design workflow. Very much appreciated! (;
As for loopers, I had no use for them either. Recently though I jammed with a friend and his synth had no sequencer, so we used Deluges looper to record it, worked likr a charm, sloppy timing notwithstanding.
Roland makes some great abandon ware 🤷🏽♂️.
Beautiful demo, thank you!
Hey ! Very good video! DO it have any FM sound function ?!