Holy crap is that what fixes this or at least lessens it?!?! Man I gotta try this on my bike next weekend. Fortunately it makes everything easy for me and don’t have to manually adjust it like I did on my MT-09. Wow man thank you for the suggestion.
You should be able to almost eliminate all unwanted behaviour by adjusting the suspension. Start really soft and stiffen just enough. Too soft is better than too hard.
will be buying the kit from you for this soon. mine is arriving in the next 10 days. I applied your flash to my K1600 and its night and day - massive difference - fixed the high cold start, 30hp+ in mid range and so much better overall.
I test road a M1000R and now I’m shopping for one. I was on the fence because of the SFV4 but the BMW gives me the performance along with the cruise control, tire pressure monitoring, heated grips and gas gauge that Ducati doesn’t offer.
Just picked up my M1000R. I have a BTMOTO tune on my SFV2. Can’t wait to tune this. I ordered the ohlins damper beforehand. I 100% have the same wobbles at 100mph+. Hopefully the ohlins solves it!
@@rudedog3529 i don’t feel any wobble under triple digits. It doesn’t feel like a tank slapper but just feels super light and moves around. Going to install the ohlins damper tomorrow. 385 miles into my break-in :)
@@brucelee-qx3sd so Motomillion recommended the same one as the S1000RR but I can say I didn’t like it when I installed. Made the steering way too heavy. I have it on the lowest setting and it’s too much. It did get rid of the wobble I would feel at triple digits but just too heavy in general. I’ll let you know which one I switch too
Any comments on the front suspension? The internals had to be replaced on mine due to some manufacturing intolerances. I noticed it on the ride home on the day I picked it up. That has been fixed but I don't feel the front end suspension is that great on this bike. I'm not impressed that you have compression and rebound adjustment available for the shock, but not the front end. I wish I'd looked closer about this before I bought mine.
Hmmm, I wonder if it’s like the problem with my 2023 s1k that leaks coolant from the bottom of the oil pan. No big deal, just have to drop the bike off at the dealership for a few months to fix it…
I‘m driving 270 km/h on the German Autobahn and everything was fine. I can’t share your experience with die M1000R - there is no shaking. Use your hands easy and perhaps your shaking will stop 😉
I just test Rode the bike yesterday, you found the same as me 135 is wobble speed. I bought the competition model, will pic, up next week. Saying goodbye to my Ducati V4s 2021,. Thanks for telling me what I need to do. Iam uk based. Looking forward to unlocking it. And finding the black ohlins damper. If you know the exact model, please let me know.
Update: just got mine a few days ago. Just moving it around the parking lot, the steering was so heavy that I thought I had a flat tire. Backed off the dampener knob all the way and it was tolerable, though a bit heavier than other bikes I've been on. Fr tire had 34.5 Psi. Haven't had a chance to run above 100 mph, but may try later today.
@@motosagela Still need to put some more miles on it for the dealer to do the initial release. Will run it that way before the ECU flash and pipe. Would like to use the OEM muffler with a no-cat Akra head pipe. I don't see myself getting an aftermarket steering dampener or even using the OEM turned up very stiff.
@@rudedog3529 sounds good bro. I have a Ducati SF that has been good, and I have an M 1000 R that I ordered and it’s here now, but I haven’t decided if I want to accept delivery or not. So I’m reading all the reviews and comments very closely right now. Thanks for putting your honest comments out there.
My friend is experiencing tons of problems with the electronics on his MkR. 3 times it went into limp mode, BMW said they fixed it but it wasn`t fixed, it was worse. Revved up and down by itself. Now they`re saying he needs a new wiring harness. We have 3 months of good summer riding up here, sucks to have your new M1000R sitting at the dealership
If a bike has a tune does it effect your warranty as it’s a brand new bike ? Can the BMW dealer tell it’s been tuned and when serviced does that end up with the tune been reset back to standard ? I thought that the steering damper was supposed to prevent the steering flapping about all over the place at speed. To deliver a high performance bike to a customer (not a pro rider )that wobbles at speed seems a little irresponsible as an average rider isn’t going to be comfortable with that.
Oh yes - it will affect your warranty if say, you submitted your bike for a runnability or cooling issue, and bike has been flashed - ANY manufacturer can (and has every right to) call you out on that if they elect to do so (ultimately denying a warranty claim). And yes - we at a BMW dealership can EASILY and QUICKLY detect an aftermarket/alternate map, which is the very first thing we check upon a runnability evaluation. And to you younger riders out there - although reckless lane splitting “at speed” may be legal in some states - please don’t ride like this jackass in the video.
@@dingleberry6486 It’s an expensive gamble then as to maintain the warranty I’m presuming you need the main dealer service ? I’m not surprised that some of these bikes are made to look like they handle so badly when the riders are so rough with them. I think a lot of the test pilots would benefit from some extra training to make them smoother and safer rather than blowing a load of money trying to make a 200bhp bike even faster than they can handle.
Great review 👍🏼. I'm waiting for my M1000R non competition version, with forged wheels to be delivered. It'll be interesting to see if the heavier wheels make a difference to the speed wobble 🤔. Tune looks awesome, do you have any dealers in the UK for your products?
11:30 RE; Steering dampener : Where did you have it set at ? Mine was so stiff when I got the bike, I thought I had a flat tire in that it steered heavy. I undid the knob all the way loose and it was better. I could only get 120 mph due to 8000 rpm limit, but it was smooth and straight. I even sat fully upright. Will try again when the dealer unleashes the hounds.
@BT, I just got the 24’ M1KR and have same dead spots in 2nd. I’m still breaking mine in but I def noticed it off the rip. Was the flash all you did to the ECU to remove the restrictions or did they also dyno tune thru a piggyback fuel controller? And did you hear what aftermarket damper went on that bike ? Feel like I should grab that too. Thanks
Awesome review! Shocking difference… are the European bikes also tuned like that from stock? I haven’t seen comments about 2nd gear pull from EU bike reviews..
EU bikes aren’t affected by the severe power restrictions like the US bikes but we have a lot of customers that get tuning in Europe that enjoy the bike being smoothed out and feeling proper.
I just wonder if the sketchy high speed ride could be due to the wide, plow handle bars ? I'll have to measure, but they do feel wider than most nekkid bikes that I'm used to.
What's the impact of the ecu tune on the power modes? For instance if I choose Race Pro 1 and select direct throttle response with full torque does that still work? Conversely if I select rain mode, will that work?
@northernlefty5412 Well that's gonna be exciting when you get your limiter off! For me, it was like getting a new bike again. I just ordered a stage 1 Bren tune so I assume it'll be a new bike again for the 3rd time.
12:12 ; RE : Speed Wobble : Well, that suks. I have one coming next week. My 2020 Duc V4 SF gets a bit wonky at the top of 5th gear @ 164 Mph. My ZH2' s have been dead steady at 179 / 181 mph and have neither wings or steering dampener.
My 2022 Ducati Streetfighter has never given me a wobble at high speeds, but probably I’ve only hit about 160 mph. But, I did spend some good time with Dave Moss and could not recommend him enough, he makes a world of a difference on suspension.
@@allaboutmd My suspension is pretty much on point, especially being an S version of the Duc SF. It could be more because of a slight , variable side wind I was getting. th-cam.com/video/2ZQRtfQmzZc/w-d-xo.html Oncoming car also caused me to shut down early. I usually won't run if any cars on the road.
@@rudedog3529 wobble doesn’t look noticeable in your video, at least not nearly as bad as the BMW M1000R. Have you ever adjusted your suspension or just run it as default settings? If you are not familiar with all the options for suspension, here is a cool video with Dave Moss tuning suspension on a SF V4S. th-cam.com/video/krS6QyKwQiQ/w-d-xo.html
@@BT_Moto I didn’t know that. You’re so fortunate to live there with the nice weather some of the most scenic roads. Thanks for taking the time to make these videos.
@@jeffy3964 I agree lol I actually got mine from Germany because I'm living here right now but with a tune I think they will be about the same! I love mine!
No thats incorrect my friend..the 2023 s1000rr and m1000rr has the new engine setup. Taken from the previous s and m series. However, but mixed together.
too much money,, they can keep it. Gas stations will be outlawed soon you wont be able to sell it. Motorcycles not really impressive no more when Grandma's Tesla leaves them in the dust.
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It’s not a steering damper problem. Add some preload to the rear shock. Transfer some weight to the front.
Change pressure tiers you’ll be good! 1.9 bar front
Holy crap is that what fixes this or at least lessens it?!?! Man I gotta try this on my bike next weekend. Fortunately it makes everything easy for me and don’t have to manually adjust it like I did on my MT-09. Wow man thank you for the suggestion.
You should be able to almost eliminate all unwanted behaviour by adjusting the suspension.
Start really soft and stiffen just enough.
Too soft is better than too hard.
@@stevefarrimond only on bikes tho we would say this 😂
@@PrestoninParadisus 🤣
will be buying the kit from you for this soon. mine is arriving in the next 10 days. I applied your flash to my K1600 and its night and day - massive difference - fixed the high cold start, 30hp+ in mid range and so much better overall.
I test road a M1000R and now I’m shopping for one. I was on the fence because of the SFV4 but the BMW gives me the performance along with the cruise control, tire pressure monitoring, heated grips and gas gauge that Ducati doesn’t offer.
Awesome video. Thanks for taking the time to do it. Real good information.
Finally a face to the madman in the saddle😂 great job.
Love your guys flash, tune & v-stacks big difference 🔥🔥🏍
This is the first time I am hearing about wobble for this bike, very strange.
His tier pressure is way off
Just picked up my M1000R. I have a BTMOTO tune on my SFV2. Can’t wait to tune this. I ordered the ohlins damper beforehand. I 100% have the same wobbles at 100mph+. Hopefully the ohlins solves it!
No wobble for me, but I could only get to 120 mph until the dealer unleashes the power.
Will get an ECU flash and head pipe, later.
@@rudedog3529 i don’t feel any wobble under triple digits. It doesn’t feel like a tank slapper but just feels super light and moves around. Going to install the ohlins damper tomorrow. 385 miles into my break-in :)
Which ohlins damper did u get for the M1000R?
@@brucelee-qx3sd so Motomillion recommended the same one as the S1000RR but I can say I didn’t like it when I installed. Made the steering way too heavy. I have it on the lowest setting and it’s too much. It did get rid of the wobble I would feel at triple digits but just too heavy in general. I’ll let you know which one I switch too
@@nvmy_m3 thx for the reply
Any comments on the front suspension? The internals had to be replaced on mine due to some manufacturing intolerances. I noticed it on the ride home on the day I picked it up. That has been fixed but I don't feel the front end suspension is that great on this bike. I'm not impressed that you have compression and rebound adjustment available for the shock, but not the front end. I wish I'd looked closer about this before I bought mine.
Hmmm, I wonder if it’s like the problem with my 2023 s1k that leaks coolant from the bottom of the oil pan. No big deal, just have to drop the bike off at the dealership for a few months to fix it…
Where is the wheelie?
I‘m driving 270 km/h on the German Autobahn and everything was fine. I can’t share your experience with die M1000R - there is no shaking. Use your hands easy and perhaps your shaking will stop 😉
I just test Rode the bike yesterday, you found the same as me 135 is wobble speed. I bought the competition model, will pic, up next week. Saying goodbye to my Ducati V4s 2021,.
Thanks for telling me what I need to do. Iam uk based.
Looking forward to unlocking it. And finding the black ohlins damper. If you know the exact model, please let me know.
Update: just got mine a few days ago. Just moving it around the parking lot, the steering was so heavy that I thought I had a flat tire.
Backed off the dampener knob all the way and it was tolerable, though a bit heavier than other bikes I've been on. Fr tire had 34.5 Psi.
Haven't had a chance to run above 100 mph, but may try later today.
How did it go? I am thinking about picking it up.
@@motosagela Still need to put some more miles on it for the dealer to do the initial release. Will run it that way before the ECU flash and pipe. Would like to use the OEM muffler with a no-cat Akra head pipe.
I don't see myself getting an aftermarket steering dampener or even using the OEM turned up very stiff.
@@rudedog3529 sounds good bro. I have a Ducati SF that has been good, and I have an M 1000 R that I ordered and it’s here now, but I haven’t decided if I want to accept delivery or not. So I’m reading all the reviews and comments very closely right now. Thanks for putting your honest comments out there.
It’s crazy how restricted 🚫 the bike is from factory, but that’s when you kill them softly with the Tune 🔥 great 👍 job!
Its a real shame that the stock steering damper is so flawed. More so when you are paying such a premium.
My friend is experiencing tons of problems with the electronics on his MkR. 3 times it went into limp mode, BMW said they fixed it but it wasn`t fixed, it was worse. Revved up and down by itself. Now they`re saying he needs a new wiring harness. We have 3 months of good summer riding up here, sucks to have your new M1000R sitting at the dealership
No different to if you bought another brand, people make out like all other bikes are perfect, they’re not !
@@Cartsp70 Dafuq are you on about?😂😂😂
If a bike has a tune does it effect your warranty as it’s a brand new bike ? Can the BMW dealer tell it’s been tuned and when serviced does that end up with the tune been reset back to standard ? I thought that the steering damper was supposed to prevent the steering flapping about all over the place at speed. To deliver a high performance bike to a customer (not a pro rider )that wobbles at speed seems a little irresponsible as an average rider isn’t going to be comfortable with that.
Oh yes - it will affect your warranty if say, you submitted your bike for a runnability or cooling issue, and bike has been flashed - ANY manufacturer can (and has every right to) call you out on that if they elect to do so (ultimately denying a warranty claim). And yes - we at a BMW dealership can EASILY and QUICKLY detect an aftermarket/alternate map, which is the very first thing we check upon a runnability evaluation. And to you younger riders out there - although reckless lane splitting “at speed” may be legal in some states - please don’t ride like this jackass in the video.
@@dingleberry6486 It’s an expensive gamble then as to maintain the warranty I’m presuming you need the main dealer service ? I’m not surprised that some of these bikes are made to look like they handle so badly when the riders are so rough with them. I think a lot of the test pilots would benefit from some extra training to make them smoother and safer rather than blowing a load of money trying to make a 200bhp bike even faster than they can handle.
Save yourself a headache these engines are blowing up everywhere.
It’s the bar end mirrors causing the wobble
I’d like to see m1000r vs SFV4S. Both tuned
We need to sort this bar shake at speed- what damper can we use?
Also can’t you guys ask Steve Moss tuning to check why the bike wobbles at high speeds ? I mean he would be the guy to know?
I notice the bars shaking at hard acceleration in hight speed I have the same problem on the s1000R . why dose this happened ?
Great review 👍🏼. I'm waiting for my M1000R non competition version, with forged wheels to be delivered. It'll be interesting to see if the heavier wheels make a difference to the speed wobble 🤔. Tune looks awesome, do you have any dealers in the UK for your products?
Thank you! We do, you can look at our websites partners page to see dealers worldwide, including the UK.
@teej710 - I was wondering the same 🤔
The M seat seems to affect people from one extreme to the other. I think it's a lot more comfortable that the one on my 2018 S1000R
11:30 RE; Steering dampener : Where did you have it set at ? Mine was so stiff when I got the bike, I thought I had a flat tire in that it steered heavy. I undid the knob all the way loose and it was better.
I could only get 120 mph due to 8000 rpm limit, but it was smooth and straight. I even sat fully upright. Will try again when the dealer unleashes the hounds.
@BT,
I just got the 24’ M1KR and have same dead spots in 2nd. I’m still breaking mine in but I def noticed it off the rip.
Was the flash all you did to the ECU to remove the restrictions or did they also dyno tune thru a piggyback fuel controller?
And did you hear what aftermarket damper went on that bike ? Feel like I should grab that too.
Thanks
Interested to hear how the new steering damper works
You guys need to do the horn count down for the racing....way easier and more equal starts. Go on third beep. Beep.....beep....beep (go!) ;-P
5:02 All video I seen of this bike shows how it kind of bounces on hard acceleration
why not also add a full exhaust. that wud open up more posibilities.
Awesome review! Shocking difference… are the European bikes also tuned like that from stock? I haven’t seen comments about 2nd gear pull from EU bike reviews..
EU bikes aren’t affected by the severe power restrictions like the US bikes but we have a lot of customers that get tuning in Europe that enjoy the bike being smoothed out and feeling proper.
I just wonder if the sketchy high speed ride could be due to the wide, plow handle bars ?
I'll have to measure, but they do feel wider than most nekkid bikes that I'm used to.
I think, that the greatest problem is, you can drive in the US 75 mls/h.
Here in good old germany, I can drive more then 300 km/h If I want. 😂😂😂
How do I go about purchasing or installing a Brentune? Who do I get to do this for me? I’m in south Texas? Any suggestions?
We have dealers or you can get it through our website, www.bt-moto.com
Did the tuned bike have the intake flap set to open?
Hi have to tried tightening the Steering damper to Max ?? Cheers !! Keep Vloggin !! 😁🙂
Yes, max helped a little but doesn’t solve completely. Even maxed it isn’t very stiff. Recommend Ohlins replacement
What's the impact of the ecu tune on the power modes?
For instance if I choose Race Pro 1 and select direct throttle response with full torque does that still work? Conversely if I select rain mode, will that work?
Modes are still fully functional, as well as race pro settings. Our tuning works with all modes.
Maybe remove the mirrors and see if it solves the issue with the wobble
Mine doesn't speed wobble. Never had to adjust the dampener. Ive spent a lot of time well over 100.
Mine wobbled a touch on my very first ride but nothing really since. I'm not unlocked yet though so I've only had it up to 200km/h
@northernlefty5412 Well that's gonna be exciting when you get your limiter off! For me, it was like getting a new bike again. I just ordered a stage 1 Bren tune so I assume it'll be a new bike again for the 3rd time.
@smokeystarr can't wait to see what it can do with full powerband. BT tune will be next up after unlock. Enjoy your ride man! Cheers.
Great video. !!! I have 22 S1000r. Does it make sense to upgrade it to M1000R? Is it noticeable difference ?
40hp more. It’s a huge difference in power.
I've never heard someone state the rear tooth count as such... "47 rear tooth."
What's that APP you're using, please?
Does the s1000r wobble at high speeds as well? Can the fins/winglets we the cause for wobbles. I'm debating on if I want the S or M rn
Apparently the gen 1 and gen2 s1000r do get speed wobbles
Are all the riding settings still available whit the tune (rain road dynamic)
Yes
will you be going home with this or the new 1390 SDR Evo? :) Cheers.
Yes! Need to get one in our hands in SD. We already have a 1290 review here.
We never have these problems in Australia with the bmw or any other it’s your crappy epa
So do we need to de cat this bike for stage 1 or that will be a stage 2 thing?
Stage 1 refers to software only. Stage 2 and on require hardware changes
I just got my m1000r how do I get it tuned with you once the break in period is done?
Go to www.BT-Moto.com and buy our handheld. We have video instructions on how to install it to your bike.
So the competition pkg is only available on the black? That doesn't make any sense at all🤨
Does the EU/World spec has the same tune?
Or 2nd gear issue is a US thing?
Depends on the country. Though all EU bikes are restricted in some way, most aren’t as bad as the US models. All could benefit from a flash though.
Its the US bikes to get through CA emissions. My 2022 RR had the Bren tune 2 flash and now a beast.
Which ohlins steering damper will fit on the M1000r?
same ones that fit the newer gen s1000r's
@@DukeFerg I ordered the one for the 22 s1000rr that would work?
Is the stock dampener not adjustable?
We maxed it out. Still was shaking
12:12 ; RE : Speed Wobble : Well, that suks. I have one coming next week.
My 2020 Duc V4 SF gets a bit wonky at the top of 5th gear @ 164 Mph.
My ZH2' s have been dead steady at 179 / 181 mph and have neither wings or steering dampener.
I think the ohlins replacement will do wonders. I know it shouldn’t need it but at least there’s something that can be done.
My 2022 Ducati Streetfighter has never given me a wobble at high speeds, but probably I’ve only hit about 160 mph. But, I did spend some good time with Dave Moss and could not recommend him enough, he makes a world of a difference on suspension.
@@allaboutmd My suspension is pretty much on point, especially being an S version of the Duc SF. It could be more because of a slight , variable side wind I was getting. th-cam.com/video/2ZQRtfQmzZc/w-d-xo.html
Oncoming car also caused me to shut down early. I usually won't run if any cars on the road.
@@rudedog3529 wobble doesn’t look noticeable in your video, at least not nearly as bad as the BMW M1000R. Have you ever adjusted your suspension or just run it as default settings? If you are not familiar with all the options for suspension, here is a cool video with Dave Moss tuning suspension on a SF V4S. th-cam.com/video/krS6QyKwQiQ/w-d-xo.html
@@allaboutmd The default settings seem to be right on for my 200 Lb weight. I have been doing my own suspension for over 20 years.
In india 150 - 200 cc bike doesn't do bubbling eg.. pulsar ns 200
Mine doesn't do that speed wobble over 100. Haven't touched the steering damper.
Could be more to do with gear, body position, body weight distribution, etc
extend the forks
Hp4 race
You put 87 octane in an M1k?😢
Just 91 in Cali
@@BT_Moto I didn’t know that. You’re so fortunate to live there with the nice weather some of the most scenic roads. Thanks for taking the time to make these videos.
Laat de vork 2,3 cm zakken. en het schaken is weg.
210hp mate
US spec is 205hp
@@twoblindsheep need to get a uk one 210hp
@@twoblindsheep it doesn’t really matter slight difference but what a beautiful bike
@@jeffy3964 I agree lol I actually got mine from Germany because I'm living here right now but with a tune I think they will be about the same! I love mine!
@@twoblindsheep your a very lucky man, enjoy it and be safe 👍
too fast 💪
How in the hell, does he not know how to properly pronounce Akrapovic?
I can’t stand it 😂
Akrapovic.....crapapovic who the f cares.
@@dg8062 amazing comment. Thanks for the contribution
I can't watch your videos due to the excessive gesticulating, it's much better when you keep both hands on the bars.
Hmm...if the new S1000RR has the "old" M1000RR engine and the new M1000R has the new S1000RR engine...than the M1000R has the "old" M1000RR engine?
No thats incorrect my friend..the 2023 s1000rr and m1000rr has the new engine setup. Taken from the previous s and m series. However, but mixed together.
too much money,, they can keep it. Gas stations will be outlawed soon you wont be able to sell it. Motorcycles not really impressive no more when Grandma's Tesla leaves them in the dust.
To much money but you then mention Tesla 🤣
They are too much too ha. But I mean you can get a Ford Maverick for 24k new, you can take trips with it and sleep in it.