The understanding of the sanctuary message did not come through the prophetic writings of EGW, the doctrine of the sanctuary message and Christ’s role as our High in the heavenly sanctuary came through Bible study alone. EGW was given several visions involving the sanctuary which affirm and give more detail, but these came after Diligent Bible Study by other founders had revealed the truth on this doctrine. Why not spend more of your energy lifting up Jesus and less time bashing His followers?
Yet another Adventist that doesn't even know their own history but lectures the rest of us on not knowing SDA history. Robert, P. Gerard Damsteegt gives the honest answer about the origins of the SDA sanctuary doctrine and he's wiser than you on this subject and far more qualified: "After their sweet advent experience, the crushing blow of Jesus' non-appearance caused many to give up their belief that prophetic time was fulfilled, and others to give up their Christian experience altogether. Still others, however, remained faithful to their earlier convictions. They felt that it was the Lord who had led them thus far and that He would give them light to solve their biblical and spiritual perplexities. They were convinced that more study of the Word of God would bring the solution. In time, the results of this earnest quest for truth proved very revealing and deeply satisfying. The Adventists' daily searching and praying was not in vain. Beginning with Hiram Edson's remarkable experience of perception regarding Christ's sanctuary ministry on the very morning of their disappointment, they went on to discover in the Bible amazing light that gave them strength, comfort and profound insights into Christ's closing work for the salvation of humanity."-How Our Pioneers Discovered the Sanctuary Doctrine No, it BEGAN with a vision given to Hiram Edson. It did NOT begin with the Bible. They brought this vision TO the Bible to begin searching and praying assuming the vision to be legitimate. So stop rewriting history and lecturing the rest of us when you don't know this subject as holistically as you think you do. And while you're at it, stop whining about what this platform is doing. I could say the same thing back to you. Why are you commenting and whining instead of just moving along? We have a public mission statement that anyone can read. It's very clear why our organization exists. Not only the why but explains why it NEEDS to exist. Exposing the unfruitful works of darkness and helps avert people from falling prey to spiritual poison and deception IS loving and exalting to Jesus. Raising the protection of the Bride of Christ, the Church, against false deceptions like Adventism IS loving Jesus because 1 John says those who don't possess a love for the Body don't bear one of the hallmarks of being a bona fide Christian. Your movement is an enemy of the true Body of Christ calling us apostate. So don't lecture us on loving Jesus and exalting him when that happens in numerous ways and fashions in various contexts. You just don't like apologetic work being done against your movement.
@answeringadventism Bible doctrine cannot be understood, except by revelation of the holy spirit, both personal and corporate. So then, what is the point of God sending his prophets, if not to guide believers back to the truth? Jesus did not come, without reinforcement of the sanctuary doctrine - behold the lamb of God. And as Paul said, we can now enter into the holiest of all, the most holy (which is referring to heaven itself, as it does not have to be describing one of the heavenly compartments, as such). The prophet comes at a time when the church is languishing, and so she did. And what excuse did they have for their languishing? (They believed Christ's return was not for another one thousand years! And many, including Calvinists, were not anticipating any kind of literal return of Christ).
John the Baptist said he was not that Light. He never claimed to be a 'lesser light' or anything close to the glory of Jesus. Saying you are a 'lesser light' is sickening heresy. John said I am not that light but have been sent ahead of him. Then we have a woman who people claim is a prophet and was sent ahead of Jesus to proclaim the 3 Angel's message and warn of his advent and used language no prophet ever did to proclaim some kind of equality with Jesus. This is a convoluted mess. No prophet ever boasted and self aggrandized themself in this fashion. Think about that.
THEN apostate protestantism and Catholics said we're that light we give you Sunday worship 😂😂, which Day Christ never mentioned from his birth until his death even after his resurrection, i guess sister white is better
SDAs: What does the 10 virgins parable MEAN? 5 of the virgins (SDAs) were warning people to "get ready"? And the other 5 virgins (SDAs or nonSDAs?) were not warning people to get ready? And what is the SDA interpretation of the oil in the lamps?
Those who understand their theory of the atonement are benefitted by it. Those who eat meat and drink coffee cannot understand it thus cannot receive salvation under the sda system
Interestingly, the SDA owned health food brand Sanitarium marketed the original British Marmite in Australia before Vegemite was introduced. And good Adventists would use Marmite instead of Vegemite. This was certainly true of my family and my SDA friends families.
I found it ironic that SDAs were so proud of Little Debbie and that it was founded by an SDA but some of the most sugary and harmful chemical laced products you can eat. They wouldn't sponsor any Nascar programs that ran the lower league on Saturday but only use their sponsorship on Sunday. For the proclaimers of the Advent health message they sure don't see the irony in producing the world's worst junk food. Not to mention what they do in the hospitals to the unborn.
The Parable Of The 10 Virgins/ End Of Days Foreshadows: Feast Of Trumpets - "And At Midnight A Cry Was Made, Behold, The Bridegroom Cometh; Go Ye Out To Meet Him!" 10 Virgins = 10 Days Of Awe ( Preparation Between Trumpets & Yom Kippur )( Lev 23 : 24 - 32 ) Lamps = YHVH God's Commandments ( Prov 6 : 23 ) Oil = Olive Fruit Beaten/ Crushed/ "Afflicted" ( Lev 24 : 2 ) Light = The Law/Written Torah Of YHVH God, Magnified By Messiah Yahshua & His People.. ( Prov 6 : 23 .. Isa 42 : 21 .. John 8 :12 .. Matt 5 : 14 - 16 .. Matt 5 : 19 ) Yom Kippur = Day Of Affliction/Judgment Day = 5 Foolish Virgins "Cut Off" ( Lev. 23 : 27 - 29 ) 5 Wise Virgins = 5 Days Left Til The Feast Of Tabernacles ( Aka: Marriage Supper Of The Lamb ) ( Lev. 23 : 34 .. Rev 19 )
@@kimartist Apparently only a brain dead person will be able to give an answer for that. But to expect from them to explain how they did came to that conclusion, thats a complete other story.
@@nonconformist4802 They obviously say things (most things) that they have given absolutely NO thought to. It's maddening. It's the classic sign, symptom & definition of successful brainwashing victims: They repeat things. They don't think. They don't question. They don't search the Scriptures for themselves. They're just stuck on repeat.
I thought I would point out that the popes hat is on the wrong person . Myles agrees moree with Catholism than EGW did so he should be waering the hat . I thought I would point out this error. . Myles and his disciples should be called siesmologists necause they love looking for FAULTS. and throwing rocks I guess we all must have a hobby to keep.uus happy . The excuses NOT to obey God are getteing bettera.and better or worse as the case may be . Rom 6: 23 the wages of disobedience is still death and people are making excuses to perish eternally ..CRAZY !!!
Yea, once again you havent changed, when you cannot prove your lies through scriptures, you start taunting SDAs, blaming them of fearing the second coming of Jesus, so they can feel guilty and so non-sda's may not join them. I keep praying for you brother one day you will come to the knowledge of the gospel truth as taught by SDAs and the truth will set you free from worshipping the antichrist.
@@stephenodhiambo5486 “taunting SDAs” That’s literally what your comment is. The irony. Stephen, it helps if you understand that not every video or clip is exhaustive. You’ve made the focus of this clip something that it isn’t/wasnt-as it is from a 2.5 hour presentation with a clear thesis. Praying to the false god of Adventism for me to return is en entirely lost cause. It will never happen. I would never leave the God I love and adore, have received, been transformed by-to return to the theological muck and mire of Adventism. Using your favorite buzz phrases like that I’m “worshiping the Antichrist” and other silly accusations hold zero sway or influence with me. I left Adventism over a decade ago. You’re dime a dozen.
We SDAs are comfortable knowing that Sunday is the Mark of the beast, image of the beast formed by the papal system because Christ never mentioned the word Sunday or first day of the week from his birth until his death even after resurrection, because where did it come from papacy and supported by apostate protestantism
Thanks for the response. Those who worship the one and only true God are defined in Rev 12:17, " ...which keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus." It is that straightforward, rest of you are keeping the commandments of men (the antichrist) in place of God's commandments. That is why am saying it is not too late for you to come back to the worship of the true God who created the heavens and the earth in six days, blessed and rested on the seventh day.
The understanding of the sanctuary message did not come through the prophetic writings of EGW, the doctrine of the sanctuary message and Christ’s role as our High in the heavenly sanctuary came through Bible study alone. EGW was given several visions involving the sanctuary which affirm and give more detail, but these came after Diligent Bible Study by other founders had revealed the truth on this doctrine. Why not spend more of your energy lifting up Jesus and less time bashing His followers?
Yet another Adventist that doesn't even know their own history but lectures the rest of us on not knowing SDA history.
Robert, P. Gerard Damsteegt gives the honest answer about the origins of the SDA sanctuary doctrine and he's wiser than you on this subject and far more qualified:
"After their sweet advent experience, the crushing blow of Jesus' non-appearance caused many to give up their belief that prophetic time was fulfilled, and others to give up their Christian experience altogether. Still others, however, remained faithful to their earlier convictions. They felt that it was the Lord who had led them thus far and that He would give them light to solve their biblical and spiritual perplexities. They were convinced that more study of the Word of God would bring the solution. In time, the results of this earnest quest for truth proved very revealing and deeply satisfying.
The Adventists' daily searching and praying was not in vain. Beginning with Hiram Edson's remarkable experience of perception regarding Christ's sanctuary ministry on the very morning of their disappointment, they went on to discover in the Bible amazing light that gave them strength, comfort and profound insights into Christ's closing work for the salvation of humanity."-How Our Pioneers Discovered the Sanctuary Doctrine
No, it BEGAN with a vision given to Hiram Edson. It did NOT begin with the Bible. They brought this vision TO the Bible to begin searching and praying assuming the vision to be legitimate.
So stop rewriting history and lecturing the rest of us when you don't know this subject as holistically as you think you do.
And while you're at it, stop whining about what this platform is doing. I could say the same thing back to you. Why are you commenting and whining instead of just moving along? We have a public mission statement that anyone can read. It's very clear why our organization exists. Not only the why but explains why it NEEDS to exist. Exposing the unfruitful works of darkness and helps avert people from falling prey to spiritual poison and deception IS loving and exalting to Jesus. Raising the protection of the Bride of Christ, the Church, against false deceptions like Adventism IS loving Jesus because 1 John says those who don't possess a love for the Body don't bear one of the hallmarks of being a bona fide Christian. Your movement is an enemy of the true Body of Christ calling us apostate. So don't lecture us on loving Jesus and exalting him when that happens in numerous ways and fashions in various contexts. You just don't like apologetic work being done against your movement.
@@answeringadventism look at this ungrateful tattooed outfit, who told you opinions gaverns SDAs gospel
@answeringadventism Bible doctrine cannot be understood, except by revelation of the holy spirit, both personal and corporate. So then, what is the point of God sending his prophets, if not to guide believers back to the truth?
Jesus did not come, without reinforcement of the sanctuary doctrine - behold the lamb of God. And as Paul said, we can now enter into the holiest of all, the most holy (which is referring to heaven itself, as it does not have to be describing one of the heavenly compartments, as such).
The prophet comes at a time when the church is languishing, and so she did. And what excuse did they have for their languishing? (They believed Christ's return was not for another one thousand years! And many, including Calvinists, were not anticipating any kind of literal return of Christ).
John the Baptist said he was not that Light. He never claimed to be a 'lesser light' or anything close to the glory of Jesus. Saying you are a 'lesser light' is sickening heresy.
John said I am not that light but have been sent ahead of him. Then we have a woman who people claim is a prophet and was sent ahead of Jesus to proclaim the 3 Angel's message and warn of his advent and used language no prophet ever did to proclaim some kind of equality with Jesus. This is a convoluted mess. No prophet ever boasted and self aggrandized themself in this fashion. Think about that.
💯 true❤
Freemason’s are into lesser and greater lights … something to consider !
THEN apostate protestantism and Catholics said we're that light we give you Sunday worship 😂😂, which Day Christ never mentioned from his birth until his death even after his resurrection, i guess sister white is better
@@okwijames947
Bravo Bravo
Excellent deflection from the truth and subject. Typical SDA
Ellen G. White was more of a "Little Horn" than she was a "lesser light"...
SDAs: What does the 10 virgins parable MEAN?
5 of the virgins (SDAs) were warning people to "get ready"?
And the other 5 virgins (SDAs or nonSDAs?) were not warning people to get ready?
And what is the SDA interpretation of the oil in the lamps?
Thanks Myles 🕊️
5:00. Copernican. As in Copernicus - the name of Dr Emmet Brown’s dog in “Back to the Future”. 👍
Einstein was the dog's name.
@ Einstein was the dog in the 1984 era; Copernicus was the dog’s name in 1954
@@Jaco3688 I see what you mean.
A false prophet's visions is their unique msg how crazy are the SDA
Great job bro..
5:54 not to worry "Copernican" is referring to the Astronomer Nikolaus Kopernikus, hence pronounced co-PURR-nick-can. Cheers from Germany ❤
Oh man you stopped too soon. I want to learn more about sda and Holy Spirit. I'm just beginning to see how they seem to not know Him?
Do you mean"THE HOLY SPIRIT'? were you a watch tower witness ?
Stephen, the link to the full video is in the description.
coh-PER-nih-can 😅
Those who understand their theory of the atonement are benefitted by it. Those who eat meat and drink coffee cannot understand it thus cannot receive salvation under the sda system
@@SolaScriptura21 correct and sound logical conclusion
Do you mean those steaks I've got cooking on the grill right now on Hickory.. I can't eat them ?an this coffee cup I'm holding.. am I in trouble?💓
@@MarkChupp-j5iyep and don’t even think about a nice red to accompany the steaks
Eph2:8,9,10 Johnny
where do you get that from? send me a link of that
I wonder if Australian SDA are into Vegemite sandwhiches. :)
Interestingly, the SDA owned health food brand Sanitarium marketed the original British Marmite in Australia before Vegemite was introduced. And good Adventists would use Marmite instead of Vegemite. This was certainly true of my family and my SDA friends families.
Lol
I found it ironic that SDAs were so proud of Little Debbie and that it was founded by an SDA but some of the most sugary and harmful chemical laced products you can eat. They wouldn't sponsor any Nascar programs that ran the lower league on Saturday but only use their sponsorship on Sunday. For the proclaimers of the Advent health message they sure don't see the irony in producing the world's worst junk food. Not to mention what they do in the hospitals to the unborn.
_"I wonder if Australian SDA are into Vegemite sandwhiches."_
Not sure, but I know that they do worship satan
What was marmite? Different ingredients? Soy maybe? I go to Aussie restaurant in Nashville the cookery and I still can't get used to it. @hikokibert
The Parable Of The 10 Virgins/ End Of Days Foreshadows:
Feast Of Trumpets - "And At Midnight A Cry Was Made, Behold, The Bridegroom Cometh; Go Ye Out To Meet Him!"
10 Virgins = 10 Days Of Awe ( Preparation Between Trumpets & Yom Kippur )( Lev 23 : 24 - 32 )
Lamps = YHVH God's Commandments ( Prov 6 : 23 )
Oil = Olive Fruit Beaten/ Crushed/ "Afflicted" ( Lev 24 : 2 )
Light = The Law/Written Torah Of YHVH God, Magnified By Messiah Yahshua & His People..
( Prov 6 : 23 .. Isa 42 : 21 .. John 8 :12 .. Matt 5 : 14 - 16 .. Matt 5 : 19 )
Yom Kippur = Day Of Affliction/Judgment Day = 5 Foolish Virgins "Cut Off" ( Lev. 23 : 27 - 29 )
5 Wise Virgins = 5 Days Left Til The Feast Of Tabernacles ( Aka: Marriage Supper Of The Lamb )
( Lev. 23 : 34 .. Rev 19 )
Where do you go when you die?
SDA "It feels like your sleeping"
@@mavicpro3289 1Thes 4
SDA is not only sleeping, they are spiritual dead.
How do you know what it feeeeeeeels like to be dead? 🤔
@@kimartist
Apparently only a brain dead person will be able to give an answer for that. But to expect from them to explain how they did came to that conclusion, thats a complete other story.
@@nonconformist4802 They obviously say things (most things) that they have given absolutely NO thought to. It's maddening. It's the classic sign, symptom & definition of successful brainwashing victims: They repeat things. They don't think. They don't question. They don't search the Scriptures for themselves. They're just stuck on repeat.
They don't realize that( believe) means *trust yet they still say believe). the devil believes an he trembles!
I believe apatheo or apathy by definition is a lack of faith. Correct me if need be.
@@jimbobhaha haven’t done a super deep dive on this word in particular. Now I’m curious!
The five foolish virgins are the carnal analogues of the five spiritual virtues (or, senses) of the Redeemed.
REALLY?
@charnelallan7159 think Archetypes instead of physical persons.
Is this the SDA belief,
or your belief?
@kimartist does this sound like Ellen G White to? I'm feel trolled.
@@irvingclarendon6227 I'm here to learn what SDAs believe. You?
I thought I would point out that the popes hat is on the wrong person . Myles agrees moree with Catholism than EGW did so he should be waering the hat . I thought I would point out this error. . Myles and his disciples should be called siesmologists necause they love looking for FAULTS. and throwing rocks I guess we all must have a hobby to keep.uus happy . The excuses NOT to obey God are getteing bettera.and better or worse as the case may be . Rom 6: 23 the wages of disobedience is still death and people are making excuses to perish eternally ..CRAZY !!!
Tell us you don't understand what a meme is without saying you don't understand what a meme is.
Yea, once again you havent changed, when you cannot prove your lies through scriptures, you start taunting SDAs, blaming them of fearing the second coming of Jesus, so they can feel guilty and so non-sda's may not join them. I keep praying for you brother one day you will come to the knowledge of the gospel truth as taught by SDAs and the truth will set you free from worshipping the antichrist.
@@stephenodhiambo5486 “taunting SDAs”
That’s literally what your comment is. The irony.
Stephen, it helps if you understand that not every video or clip is exhaustive. You’ve made the focus of this clip something that it isn’t/wasnt-as it is from a 2.5 hour presentation with a clear thesis.
Praying to the false god of Adventism for me to return is en entirely lost cause. It will never happen. I would never leave the God I love and adore, have received, been transformed by-to return to the theological muck and mire of Adventism. Using your favorite buzz phrases like that I’m “worshiping the Antichrist” and other silly accusations hold zero sway or influence with me. I left Adventism over a decade ago. You’re dime a dozen.
We SDAs are comfortable knowing that Sunday is the Mark of the beast, image of the beast formed by the papal system because Christ never mentioned the word Sunday or first day of the week from his birth until his death even after resurrection, because where did it come from papacy and supported by apostate protestantism
The amalgamated beast is right on time.
@Donatello-b4x Sunday worship on time
@Donatello-b4x Christ didn't mention the word Sunday or first day of the week even after his resurrection NEVER,
@@okwijames947 Keep following the system that said you are the offspring of animals
Have fun reaching the end of your earthly days and abruptly finding out that you were wrong about everything, starting with "soul sleep"...
Thanks for the response. Those who worship the one and only true God are defined in Rev 12:17, " ...which keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus." It is that straightforward, rest of you are keeping the commandments of men (the antichrist) in place of God's commandments. That is why am saying it is not too late for you to come back to the worship of the true God who created the heavens and the earth in six days, blessed and rested on the seventh day.