Ram 2500 NEW 6.7L Cummins Diesel Engine *Heavy Mechanic Review* | The Perfect Engine Combo?
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- the 2025 Ram 2500/3500 will have a Brand New 6.7L Cummins Diesel Engine reportedly more power then the current cummins High Output diesel engine with 420hp and 1,075 lb-ft of torque. This cummins engine will ALSO be paired with the ZF 8 speed powerline transmission completely reshaping the diesel powertrain. It might be the best Engine/Transmission Combo.
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Mopar Insider has reported that in 2025 there will be a brand new version of the 6.7L cummins turbo diesel engine going in the RAM 2500 and Ram 3500 HD pick up trucks.
we have also found out that there is not going to be a standard output and high output version of the engine. instead there will just be one engine option but this engine option is reported to be more powerful then the Current HO cummins diesel option which is pretty awesome to hear.
now along with this new CUmmins diesel engine. these RAM 2500 truck will ditch the longstanding 68RFE 6 speed transmission for the ZF 8 speed powerline transmission which i think will be a wonderfully strong and reliable unit.
If cummins built this new engine right, paired with that new HD zf 8 speed transmission these RAM HD trucks could be absolutely wonderful trucks. Im very excited to see what happens moving forward. We don't have power numbers just yet but I imagine it won't be long now.
The third bit of information is that RAM is indeed keeping the 6.4L Hemi onboard as the standard engine option and only gas engine option. I have speculated that Ram was going to ditch these 6.4L hemi engines but not right now.
at least through the 2025 model year the 6.4L hemi will live and who knows how much further past then!
00:00 - Intro
00:40 - New Cummins Engine
03:30 - Ditching the HO Version
05:12 - New Exterior
05:46 - Gearing options?
06:15 - 6.4L Hemi is STAYING
07:38 - My Thoughts - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
The only reason they are having a problem selling them. Is they didn’t change anything and increased price by $22k
Agreed, Rams' pricing is insane
@@dakotaracebrown all the truck pricing is insane right now. Name one higher trim that isn’t 70k or more on any truck 1500 or bigger.
Yep. I make good money and have no idea how people finance these. You either have to be super rich or super stupid with $1700 payments.
@@TheSouthpawSharpshooter I mean when I got my 19 it was 72 on sticker and i pay 60k out the door.So there has to be big dealer discount going on behind the season or I agree.
@@user-ej9pr5ly8v Its nuts! I have a 2015 Longhorn diesel, for what I paid for it in todays money I would not even be able to buy a tradesman with no options today, that's insane.
The torque wars are ridiculous. The drivability and reliability are what buyers look for. I don't care which one is "faster". If you're buying an HD truck for speed, you're nuts. They are made for towing and hauling heavy loads and doing it well for a long time. That's the point. It is exciting to hear about a ZF mated to the Cummins HO. That should be a formidable combo.
I agree, I think folks would rather have a reliable engine then a fast one. But all that power and speed usually translate into better towing performance
I've been thinking about getting a de-rate tune for my 2500, or one for a 3500 HO if I wanted to trade mine in, for just that mentioned reason of reliability.
Excellent comment, I agree on all counts.
Ford chasing mustang-level HP numbers and 1000+ torque numbers is ridiculous. The drivability and useful torque of the Cummins is far superior.
I want a 700 hp 2000tq HD truck. 🤷
@@joeykim3938a truck like that would be so damn awesome!
And I'm still building my 06 3rd gen lol
Can't wait to see the power numbers for 2025!
07 here too in progress
As long as the new Cummins is reliable, that engine and transmission combo will be deadly.
Agreed, these trucks are deadly on depreciation, safety, and reliability.
@@TheGreatestShowman69 LOL cummins vs ford i own both ford just took a gas motor and made it a diesel 4 head bolts vs 6 per cylinder i own both
@@davidwhichard2956 Wtf did you just try and say? 😂 Your inbred is showing with how poorly your comment is written.
2025 with a emissions delete should be a long lasting tough unit
yeah ecu is locked and new platform they probably will change ecu from previous years
@@miketothesuprauntil it’s unlocked
I doubt it will be easy. They are doing everything to stop any modifications to modern vehicles.
@@DanBlackRacingthere’s already deleted 24 l5ps these will be cracked in months.
Love your videos bro. Props!
There are many who believe that ZF makes the world's best transmissions. Of course, Cummins is legendary. Little boys grow into men wanting a Cummins diesel. So, I believe that this is a smart move. Arguably, Ram will have the best engine and the best transmission in their heavy duty trucks. It would be virtually impossible for them to build anything better themselves.
That's because they're pretty bad at buildinh things
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 you can't say that when ram has won overall quality several years between lexis and them. Ford trucks were 14th, gm trucks were 29th. People say things without actually knowing.
Why is dodge rated 1 in quality , people say things when they don,t know anything!??
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 6.4 Hemi is a good engine. So is the 6.2, the 5.7 and on and on. They are not bad at building things
I ‘ve owned 5 Dodge trucks both 2500 and 3500 dually. 3 had the 5.9 Cummins and the other two the 6.7. The two 6.7’s were junk. One was High Output and the other regular. The 5.9 got excellent fuel and and were bulletproof we put over 250,000 miles on all three without any major issues. The 6.7 where in the shop too many times to count and the damn DEF systems all had multiple issues. Forget power they need to make the new engine more reliable and problem free. I got rid of both 6.7s before they had 80,000 on them.
Alex, that's great news. Hope the emissions are reliable.
Im a mechanic for mass transit and we match the zf trans with the cummins for a long time awsome trans
Love your videos sir!
Gonna be some GREAT deals on the 24' Ram 2500s! Time to get a new work truck.
that is probably going to be true. on the flip side I would expect the 2025 price tag to be very high lol
This is the only good news I’ve gone on ram in forever! Hopefully the motor and trans performance will be good enough to keep mein the brand. Wish they had updated the cab with this tho.
Alot of people are mentioning the cab, strange how Ram just does not want to update it.
@@TheGettyAdventures I have the 5gen 1500 limited right now. The cab on that is awesome. Reclining back seats. Way more leg room in the back. Storage for days. Just put that on a hd truck. At this point tho the only way I’m buying a ram again tho is if the hd is good. They killed the 1500 with the new motor. Plus I’m not paying 80k for a 1500 when I can get a 2500 for a similar price. Before I got my 1500 way under sticker and it would tow what I needed.
@TheGettyAdventures no idea what people have against the crew cab
I only wish they would have done this sooner. I literally just had to rebuild my 68rfe. I think it would have saved me a lot of headaches.
I want a manual transmission
A totally redesign manual 7 or 8 SPD, double overdrive high torque capacity and 4:30 -4:56 maybe even 4:88 rear gears . That would be awesome. A 2spd rear may even work instead. My vote is a more robust trans with double overdrive.
Me too. I have a 2018 last year
The market really doesn't though and I can see why. I like mine too but they aren't going to waste their time or money making a powertrain only the hardcore 1% would buy. But it's also the EPA/emissions stuff that killed manuals, along with autos being much better than they used to be. Some things are inevitable and that was one of them.
@@BrandonLeech 💯
@@BrandonLeechthe epa didn't have anything to do with transmissions
It would be awesome if ram come and bet ford and gm by everything
Towing, payload, hp, tq, mpg, " basic" off road - nothing extreme ( power wagon) but for like the farmers and ranchers in mud and fields, ranges.
A couple of things Ram should do:
1. Partner with Banks and put in their Monster Ram, pedal monster and every option they have.
2. Partner with Edison Motors to make a diesel/electric hybrid with a Cummins generator, battery bank and electric drive train, that would be a towing monster.
Outstanding
Looking at getting a new diesel truck what do yall think is most reliable
Greetings Alex.
I think; the best jointpoint is Cummins engine with an ZF Transmission.
Although I will prefer an standar Transmission 1,000 % ever!! 😮
I see you next video Alex; Thanks!! 😊
It would be cool to be able to special order a manual in these trucks still
When does the 2025 ram 6.4L come out?
so you don't like the last manual transmission ?
I have a 2018 2500 G56, 3.42 gears, that thing is stupid fast. I admit, it is super nice to be able to downshift with an exhaust brake. I would like to see a G/T edition 2500, Ive seen the 1500 G/T edition, It has paddle shifters and a console mounted gear selector, and considering they’ve brought some things over from the 1500 to the 2500 I would love to have an 8 speed 2500 with paddle shifters. Only thing I would trade it for would be a 7 speed manual or the 8 speed diesel as a G/T edition, 100% would trade it in for one of those.
Surely the light / medium duty commercial trucks will have a tuned down version of that engine to promote longevity.
Either they are going to be right above fords power numbers, or go way above it. They announced the HO cummins before ford announced the HO powerstroke which had bigger numbers. So hopefully they come out with way bigger numbers then ford
Hope you realize the all of the 6.7 are the same. I have a 13, 6.7 that runs 1200 foot pounds! Just turn it up. That’s all Cummins does. The 6.7 is over built and turned wayyy back. Just drive it like you have some sense, or you’ll break the driveline. Still running the 68RFE. Great transmission, just drive it like you have sense. Not sure where you get sub-par from. These are some of the best towing trucks ever built.
I have 2014 3500 standard output dually (68rfe) and pull a fifth wheel over 60% of its 102,000 miles. No tuner - stock size tires - I did take out the thermal block in the tranny lines and replaced with a pass through unit. I service the tranny with pan off fluid and filter change ( i know i am leaving several quarts in TC) every 33k. NO PROBLEMS except a fan pully bearing on the engine at 90k. Well...that damn Uconnect screen will sometimes wait two minutes to show up and come on and the factory Nav thinks I am in the ocean🙃. I have to say I have gotten my money's worth in 10 years and I can sell it for a fair amount over half what I paid for it. I LOVE the idea of a new rig but I am wary of the hydraulic lifters (compared to my solid lift cam) and they have become SO overpriced that I don't believe in ten years I will be able to get 60 plus % of what I pay today out of it. Keeping mine.......but I keep thinking about that new 8speed..........
The new 1500 inline 6 is so good people will be shocked how many people switch to half ton.
Makes sense if all the 6.7 fuel agnostic engines will have the lower assembly
Maybe I missed in the prior video on this ZF Powerline transmission, but in the graphic at 2:15 here it shows that transmission being limited to 1000lb-ft. That's more than the current standard output engine, but less than the current HO mill. What will they do about that?
That's 1000lb-ft at 57,000lb GCWR.
They will likely increase the max torque rating for use in a light truck with a GCWR in the 40,000-45,000lb range.
Technically Fords 10r140 is rated at 1400 NM or 1032ftlbs, yet it still has a 1200ftlbs output engine. I'll also say the 11-19MY Powerstroke 6r140 holds up to a lot more than its rated 1400nm... they actually hold more than the newer 10r140 as it has more clutch surface area... But I do agree it seems a little odd for the ZF to be rated at 1000ftlbs on a new build, could also be set low for "initial testing" so Ford and chevy think that's its final rating...
I did address that in the prior video and questioned exactly that. my guess would be they have either changed some components or as other folks have mentioned made it work due to the lighter GCWR
Ah gotcha thanks all. Yeah makes sense it’s made to both a torque input as well as a weight or duty cycle. And I had no idea the Ford was rated in NM instead of lb-ft as I think I initially thought. Either way I’m sure it’ll be fine and hopefully prove itself to be a solid unit to pair with the Cummins. I’m still weary of all modern diesels due to the emissions stuff they laden them with but if I were to get one I think a Cummins would be my preferred brand as I love inline engines.
You'd have to really read the fine print on that one but from a technical perspective (not just throwing numbers around and bench racing) I doubt that unit has any trouble holding up behind a little 6.7 liter school bus engine.
Sounds promising
Ram this to make this new ZF-Transmission available as a retro-fit for the older high output Cummins mated
to the "HORRIBLE" shifting six speed Aisin ( 19-24 Model years ), and even for the normal outputs out there with the 68RFE's.
I think ram was waiting until they had a better transmission to bump up the power. The 68RFE was okay, but never shifted really happy and kinda the same story with the Aisin unit in the HO version. They just didn’t drive anywhere as good as the competing. That and I trust the 68RFE about as far as I can throw it, which is pretty self explanatory. It’s way better than the old 4 speed, but under extreme duty, just doesn’t hold up.
Does the revised engine go to the MD rear end cam and pump drive version, or is it the Ram pickup engine turned up?
I don't think anybody knows yet what the actual technical revisions will be from the current engines, if there even are any. They might just be dropping the standard output version and doing a modest power bump on the current HO version and calling it "new and improved". The transmission I believe they have been working on for quite some time which is probably the bigger news.
I recently heard a rumor it might be a 7.2L Cummins, increase the displacement to get more torque and resultant power, without having to "turn up" the 6.7L and increase emissions?! Kind of like they did from the 5.9L to 6.7L? I'd really like to know when the details will become available....enquiring minds want to know!
It really does say something about Ram, when the best part of the truck isn't made by them.
What does it say? If you can't beat em, join em. Plus they've had this partnership with Cummins for quite some time...
Odd comment
Better than a Allison transmission?
Did they ever fix the grid heater bolt problem???
Nope
why do the new 2500 hemi trucks not have the Hemi badge on the fenders.
When do 25’s start showing up.?
For Ram to get their 2500 up to current snuff, they need their GVWR to be above 12,000. That has been the major sticking point since 2020.
Hi Alex! Great videos, very informative. Quick question, I am wanting to buy a 2500 Ram Cummins as I haul an enclosed trailer for my business with a 2015 Toyota Toyota currently. I have found some incredible deals on 2024 2500 Cummins models but it sounds like it might be worth waiting for the 2025 based on your video. I like the idea of better mpg's and more power. Any thoughts? Thanks!
I mean there is always risk buying a new engine with a new transmission. one thing I would also say is that the 2025 trucks are probably going to be very expensive in comparison to the 2024s
@@TheGettyAdventures Copy on that! Good food for thought, just need to decide what to do! Thanks!
first year of anything even the reliable brands is ALWAYS the worst choice. you're paying to be a beta tester, dealing with growing pains. whenever possible only buy tried and true@@JasonKatz-z3k
It seems that logistics and economics wise having a single diesel would make more sense. That is if Stellantis management doesn't destroy the company
Switching to the new HD ZF PowerLine tranny and the new 6.7l Cummins means that Dodge diesel powertrain for 2025 will be unbeatable.
Don't forget AFFORDABILITY !!!! It doesn't mean squat how good a truck is if a person can't AFFORD IT !!!
2:16 Looking at that graphic, that ZF is “only” rated for 1,000 lb-ft. If the new engine will make more power than the current HO, will it support that much torque? I’m sure ZF will make variants, if that’s what it’ll be paired with.
It might make more sense for Ram/Cummins to only have one, but I think from a consumer standpoint this is bad. Having some real separation in capability between the 2500 and 3500 series trucks makes sense. So then naturally having a smaller engine, focused on less cost (perhaps) but more importantly, fuel efficiency, would be a good thing. We don't need a 2500 with 2000 lb/ft of torque, that makes 0 sense. If you need more power than 800 lb/ft then hop into the 3500, that's literally what its there for. For the 2500, give me a smaller engine, and allow me to keep my total cost of ownership down (less def usage, less mpg, and whatever else is involved). Having an updated 8 speed across the board though, that is a good thing. I don't think this will help sales either, the Ram heavy duty looks stale, and it has the smallest cab. That needs to be adressed at some point very soon.
If they had come out with an all new 5th gen heavy duty 2500, new cab, updated dimensions, 8 speed transmission, and a more efficient cummins at 800 lb/ft, that would be killer IMHO. Keep the 1000+ lb/ft monster for the 3500 where its actually needed.
I think the ram cabs are the best, even if they are smaller.
I love the Cummins engine I had in a 96 duelly. But now that I live in NE Ohio I want to buy a truck which is manufactured locally so that I help to employ my neighbors. That means either a chevy or a ford as the rams are made far from me in Mexico.
I'm also in Ne ohio! Buy a ford I work there lol
Duramax is made in Moraine Ohio. Always has been. The truck is made in Flint Michigan. Powerstroke, lol. They're made in Mexico. All Cummins powered Stellantis trucks are built in Mexico too.
Incase you didn't know, gm is owned by china. Obama administration sold them to a shell company to hide it in 2009 with the agreement they wouldn't move anything until he was out of office. Duramax is an Isuzu engine. It's all made in china and shipped here ti be assembled. Look at how many gm vehicles are produced in china. The other 2 have none. It's almost all of gm vehicles. They produce the parts for the trucks and ship them here to make people like you feel good. You're really supporting china and Biden.
@@countcuda70actually Cummins are built in Columbus IN. Ram is built in Michigan and unfortunately assembled in Mexico. But the other 2 are the same
@@andymcdonald1129 I didn't say where the Cummins was built. I said all Stellantis Cummins powered trucks are built in Mexico.
I bought a new 2023 Ram 2500 w/a Cummins I6 could I theoretically replace the 68RFE w/the new ZF 8-speed some day?
Hard to say, it would depend on if this new engine comes with a different bell housing, potentially new transmission mounts, different transmission cooler.
That’s what I thought when I bought a 2024 Chevrolet 2500 gas with the 10 speed Allison a year ago. It was in the shop for transmission problems for over 30 days with extremely hard shifts. I got rid of it last week. I think all these 10 and 8 speeds are too complicated for people to fix when they have problems.
I think your truck was the exception and not the rule though.
@@slaytanic921 I don’t think so. GM has a service bulletin out for hard shifts from 7th to 8th gear. That’s what mine was doing. They aren’t going to put out a service bulletin for just a couple trucks. Bulletin number PIP5971
@@slaytanic921 look it up PIP5971 is the bulletin number
Gm is owned by china and they codeveloped the 10sp with Ford. Their are only subtle differences and computer programing. Their both junk. The transmission people bitch about with ram has been around since the 5.9l. Like 20yrs or more. It just wasn't made for this kind of tq. But it made it that long.
@@sonsofliberty3081 I agree. My 2018 Ram 2500 had no problems with the transmission. I should have kept it. Like they say hindsight is 2020. My fault.
So apparently, the RFE in the asin are not serviceable eight speeds not 100% certain if this is true or not, but if it is, I sure hope that’s not the case with this new one
when we say brand new.. are we saying a 6th gen? the big thing about the tranny for me is its service intervals..or lack thereoff
Ford Rumor is the HO is going up again for 2025 too. 520hp and 1,350 torque. I guess we’ll see in a few months 🤷🏻♂️
So stupid. They should dial back the power and give us a little better fuel economy.
Sure hop Cummins gets their heads outta their posteriors and finds a better solution to the grid heater nut issue. Not sure I would buy another one if they don't. Installing the Banks Monster Ram Air Intake horn was bit more than I would care to do again.
thw 392 wrangler also staying thru 2025... wonder if they had too much stock.
I think they should get rid of the coil springs and replace them with leaves and a higher gvwr on the 2500. I recommend 11990.
If anyone wants to make any power beyond the OEM, you better stud that head. Even the OEM HO version is running at the limit if what the OEM head bolts can hold.
Source?
@@firstlast--- I'm a FCA tech. Being working on dodge/ram for 30yrs. I've been seeing more and more newer Cummins having or showing signs of head gasket leakage.
Will use gasoline ⛽️ or propane
Ahh.. the next $100k+ truck I’ll be fantasizing about.
I know right? This is why I bought a 45,000 brand new RAM Warlock in 2022 because I knew the prices we're going to skyrocket.
@@DanBlackRacingshould've bought something higher, then sold it for a huge profit lol. i bet even now with miles on it you'd at worst break even
I wish they'd drop this new Cummins in a new cab based on the larger 5th gen 1500 instead of a version of the old 4th gen cab like they've been doing.
how about come down on price
What do you mean the AISEN won’t be missed? I’ve got 250k on mine, and I have NEVER serviced it. And done nothing but abuse it.
Absolutely nothing wrong with the Aisin! But I think the new ZF will be a far better unit. I could be wrong but thats my prediction. only time will tell i guess.
I really like RAM trucks but I'm not a Stellantis fan!
Sad news regarding the Hemi remaining as the only gas option. I will be making a purchase choice for a Cab Chassis in 2025. It will be for a gas version (no more diesel for me). If RAM does not offer the Cummins.. it will be my first Ford.
If only they can find someone to do their suspension and electronics and they’ll have a good truck!
Huh????
If you want suspension go put a Carli Suspension kit. Electronics ain’t even bad
I actually like the 6.4 Hemi. I hope it stays. Because of the unreliable nature of modern diesels I am hesitant to buy one
Ram needs to put leaf springs back on the 2500! Their payload is crap. When you see a 1/2 ton trucks with as much payload as a Ram 2500 it’s pathetic
I love the content and I love the videos. But I just think new trucks are ridiculous. I ordered my 2023 Tradesman with the 6.4 Hemi and to me it has plenty of power. Sometimes too much because it's easy to speed and everything else .I've owned diesels and gas for the last 23 years. Most people don't tow they just fly up and down the interstate. I think we would have a better world if we went back to 230 horsepower big blocks lol! I think it's a waste of resources. But whatever. My 99 second gen V10 Dually is still my favourite truck to drive!! To me it it is a perfect balance.
I doubt they will top power but torque, yes
Needs the mega cab
I don’t see Ram/Cummings pushing more power without boring for a larger displacement
I’m think Dodge will offer 3.55, 3.73, 4.10. With that 8spd auto and a set of 3.55 gears that 3/4 ton truck shouldn’t have any problems towing at or near 20k.
Them updating the truck 6.4 but killing every other Hemi is a massive spit in the face to customers. Stellantis is the worst automotive company there is. I'd MUCH rather support Ford and get an amazing V8 engine.
It was a surprise for me as well. I think the 5.7L Hemi was a great engine for the ram 1500 and like you I was disappointed to learn about them discontinue it. At least in the 1500 category Ford still had a v8 option.
They’ll just have different tunes throughout the HD line
I have a 2022 Ram 6.7L Cummings and I can unlock my doors using water on the door handle. They told me the only thing they can do is turn off my unlock sensor. Also I have 12 or 13 no starts and have had to call a tow truck 9 times. The crazy thing it's a brand new truck with me being the only owner. They have replaced so many things it's crazy sooooo I have a lawyer now and have filled lemon law so we will see what happens. If I could post a video of me unlocking my truck I would post it.
Have you seen anyone do a 2.8 Cummins swap?
I have seen Cboys TV do the crate 4bt Cummins swap in the Ford ranger and made it a dually. Idk how big that engine is. I know it's a 4 cylinder tho
@@99Xeno De Boss said he wouldn't use the motor awhile back but just did. No long term reviews online for longevity.
Some talk the Cummins will be a 7.1 liter. Have you heard that?
Hey ram if you aren’t gonna update the cabs maybe add a telescoping steering wheel? Ridiculous you can buy a 90k truck that the steering wheel is fixed.
It would be nice!
Hopefully 🤞 Cummins doesn’t cheat on this new engines emissions 😂
More def junk
More power but that new transmission is only rated for 1000lbs of torque?
I talked about this in the video about the new ZF and I don't know if they have changed some components to allow it to take more torque or the pick up trucks being lighter could change that number up. I'm not honestly sure but it is something that caught my eye as well!
Beautiful truck. And you have nice arms
Oh thank you
Stellantis/CDJR is a mess right now. What’s the msrp on this thing going to be and who is it meant for based on that price? Outside actual commercial use these engine number wars are getting ridiculous.
That platform is certainly attractive. But it will all come down to cost. If they price them at astronomical levels no one will buy because no one will be able to afford them. I had to mortgage a house to get the truck I now drive. To replace it I’d need to win the lottery.
They need to change the heavy duty cabs to match the updated half ton ram cabs.
I never really understood why they didn't switch the cab over in the 2019 when the fifth gen HD trucks came out.
It doesn’t really make sense. Especially with the improvements made to the new cabs it would do bring the heavy duty cabs on par with GM and Ford.
Hope the new engine comes with a grid heater bolt 😂
one would only hope they address that issue lol
Don’t you wish that on me Ricky Bobby!!!
Ram has the opportunity to improve the gasser with a 7.4 Hemi but of course they blew that one 😬🙄
Honestly surprised they kept the 6.4 hemi but it works I guess lol. Bigger displacement would be awesome
I was hoping that they move to an 8.1L cummins that I'd been hearing rumors about on tik tok
I mean that certainly could be the case, I'm under the impression they are continuing the 6.7L platform. reason being is because that engine being an inline-6 is very long and it barely fits as is under the hood. adding another 20% to the length it probably won't fit in the truck. especially since they are keeping the existing cab and chassis. BUT I could be wrong, just my thoughts.
@@TheGettyAdventures that’s a good point, and extra 20% length would make it hard to fit for sure
Not updating the cab is a deal breaker for me.
Shame they didn’t keep the HO options for the 2500s, my 03 Cummins HO 2500 pulls better than a buddy’s ’22 6.7L Cummins SO in his 2500.
Those pre-emission engine just hit differently lol
Have u heard about a traveller's. Truck
Looks like all of the internet hype a few months ago when Cummins was fined for messing with the particulate sensors was all false. Wow, imagine that, internet hype being false. Everyone said Ram will divorce from Cummins, Cummins is done. Ahaha, looks like Ram and Cummins are still dating. 2024 Ram HD trucks with the Cummins will have some big rebates as the year goes on, most who can will wait for the 2025 Cummins and the better tranny too.
In my humble opinion, the 2500 and 1500 do not need major changes, the diesel engine in the 2500 and a new gearbox with a better gear ratio will certainly be a better solution, but eliminating the V8 in the 1500 is not a very good move, all I hear is that I WILL NOT BUY A RAM WITH V6 ANYMORE I think we will see the return of the V8 or trouble...
I doubt ram will remain in business long enough to get it to market. They can’t even clear the inventory they have now. Have you seen the dealers lots lately? They’re completely full.
I’ll probably get flamed, but to me these already have plenty of power. I’d rather the big 3 compete in fuel efficiency, or maybe who can bring prices down the most instead of ever increasing HP and torque.
One thing you can probably guarantee is these babies aren't going to be cheap lol But yes I hear ya.
@@TheGettyAdventures Yeah I hate to sound like an old man but you can hit msrp $110k for a loaded dually… most people who can write that check didn’t get there by dumping huge money on things that depreciate. I’d set aside money for a truck but I think I’d rather drive my old one and pick up a rental property…. Just nuts.
That's always been the American spirit, though. Bigger and better, more power, higher numbers. That was true with the muscle cars in the 60s and 70s, continuing through to today. I think the price issue starts with the economy as a whole. Get that inflation down for starters, and bring down the rates. I think we'll be surprised how much that will help
The Hurricane engine is NOT DURABLE enough for the heavy duty trucks.
If Cummins and ram can’t figure out their emissions then they should just give up. My 22 Cummins will be the last ram I buy until they can figure their shit out. Until then I’m going back to Ford where I never had one emission issue out of all the 6.7’s I owned.
Still a problem no new cab or frame either
it is strange continuing to use the same cab lol could be 2030 before it gets put to bed.
@@TheGettyAdventures than have to update everthing again
I don’t know with one motor the price is just going to be even higher I don’t know about everyone else but I have a 2017 ram 3500 dually with the standard motor and 68 transmission and I’ve never had a single problem and I mean nothing and it’s my daily driver it only has 15k on it but it works for me I don’t think I will be getting anything new anytime soon
Agreed. I have a ‘15 Laramie with the Cummins (easy breathing) and it’s legit been a fantastic truck and is still in fantastic condition. I only WANT a new truck because I’ve had this one for nearly 10 years. I definitely don’t NEED one.
This is coming a year after Cummins got his with that major fine from the government? Something is fishy. Yeah it’ll probably be a “better” engine, but the emissions is gonna be insane
Half the people that buy these trucks don't use all the torque of the standard output engines, or any diesel pickup. I have a 2015 drw 3500 with the G56 and pull just as much as one with the aisin transmission. Have driven a ZF manual transmission before it was a nice transmission but again that was a manual transmission.
That ZF is far from bulletproof. Look at the Paccer labeled TX-8. Same with the PX7 and 9. That duty cycle is far from what any pickup will ever see. KW T180-480(19k-58k GVWR) and the Pete versions are the only places this transmission have been available, they are NOT selling better than the Allison in Paccars own products. Looking at the placement of the TCM is kinda scary, honestly.
Some sweet deals are coming on the 2024 Cummins powered Rams. They will likely blow out the 2024’s with great incentives as soon as the 2025 model is released.