I’ve also heard that Ram and Cummins made a mutual decision to no longer chase power numbers with other manufacturers and focus more on the engines exhaust brake, efficiency, durability and adaptability. I think that’s very smart. I hope it’s all true.
If true, that would be great. Who actually pulls 40k lbs with these new pickups? Nobody I've ever seen, and I always defend buying for potential capability instead of necessity.
@@JoshAllenberg Farmers/ranchers and hot shot guys tend to pull numbers that high and they are partially the target audience. With oilfield and other industrial settings, most guys can only load everything up to 26k max but the bigger number is kinda reassureance that the truck can be abused harder
@@randomoinkbomb most of the time that I've seen hotshotters or farmers towing super heavy, they go for a 4500 or 5500. Idk if the 3500s having higher ratings will cause them to downgrade their purchases, but I'm sure something other than tow rating will come into consideration
@@JoshAllenberg The 5500 gets lower rated power, for longer lifespan. The 5500 has dual tanks, heavy duty frame, payload of over 12k lbs, etc..
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May have something to do with not being able to meet emission specifications at higher power levels but from a marketing point of view the longevity claim sounds good.
New truck owners today are either , “my truck is a luxury cellphone lounge” or “ my truck will pull a house to the Eisenhower Tunnel doing 75 mph and never downshift”. You’ll find both owners in the service area at the dealer.
I want to be a new truck owner in a few years and want to be "the mid teir midsized truck owner". $45K for a Colorado Trail Boss with most options for mid range offroading and towing 6K ibs toy hauler
I see these dimwits all the time 90!mph dragging a boat or camper with bicycle tires and wonder what happened after the crash. Florida and South Carolina just made those lifted pickup illegal .
Hey guys, could you do us a favor and ask the ZF engineers what they recommend for fluid services on their transmissions.. mopar likes to say “lifetime” fluid which anyone with a brain knows there is no such thing. This is a highly debated topic and using your contacts at ZF it would be great to do a video on this topic. I would really appreciate a response …. Thanks.
I would look through BMW forums, because the ZF 8HP is used in every RWD/AWD application since >10 years. There is an official fluid called "ZF Lifeguard Fluid 8" available in Germany, dont know about your location.
Ill still drive my 1st gen cummins with a nv5600 6 speed its simple , reliable and enjoy that old mechanical cummins. They should bring the manuals back.
They should absolutely bring the manuals back, as long as you're willing to put up the 10s of millions of dollars to develop one suitable for this application.
@@noobasdfjkl they had one up 2018 and it was good enough. just put it back on the market for 3 years and see the sales. if it sales enough, keep it in the lineup, if it don't, then yeah call it a day.
@@CabanonGuitarHero Lol, max torque rating for that manual was 610lb-ft. Mercedes doesn't even make that gearbox anymore. Again, are you willing to put up the millions of dollars so Dodge can buy the rights to it, build a manufacturing facility, and re-engineer the current trucks to accept this transmission? I thought not.
Somebody is still going to have to explain to me how more and more gears make better fuel mileage when cruising at highway speed. Seems like it all comes down to the final drive ratio and parasitic power loss through the geartrain. I typically go up through the gears then stay in high gear for hours. The 7 or 9 lower gears, depending on which transmission, will help me make more mileage? Whatever. If the transmission wastes less power in it's gears, clutches, etc., now that makes some sense. But that has nothing to do with the number of gears available. I have a 6 speed currently and am perfectly satisfied with 6 speeds. Encouraging to see that Ram didn't jump on the 10spd bandwagon just because everyone else did.
If the EPA and the DOT would be realistic and eliminate most of the federal regulations, we could have decent equipment that gets good fuel mileage and towing capacity.
Allison is testing these now at the GM proving grounds. 2 speed elect motors for even more range. They will be colossal. Won't even need diesel, gas will recharge it all just fine.
Yea, I realized this isn't quite the same thing. A diesel electric motor is actually using a diesel generator to power an electric motor. Anyway, tinkering with these technologies is super cool, but will inevitably become waaaay outside of most folks' price range!
I’m not a fan of all these higher speed transmissions. I bought a 2024 Chevrolet 2500 gas with the 10 speed Allison BRANDED transmission. Kept it 1 year and had too many issues. Was in the shop 3 times for 29 days. Got rid of it last week. 6 speeds are plenty in my opinion.
Been a diesel tech at master level for 20 years. I can’t believe people keep falling for these new trucks. I must have done something wrong in life. I can’t buy a +$100k dollar truck, delete it, and put it on marketplace next year. I mean I got rent and kids and insurance to pay for. Good thing I’m content not racing mustangs in my 3500hd that never had a trailer on it or even locked in 4x4. I somehow just keep making it through life with my 305 Chevy half ton and my 6.5 suburban. Crazy. Oh btw, you can buy a Mack MD for the price of a pickup. 😂
@@josephsamsor1698 yeah maybe a single cab 2500 2wd. Don’t see many of those. I see mostly 2500 or 3500 dually with pretty loaded out trim. So most trucks sold I would bet are in the 80k range on up to 99k for a limited. You can get a 2024 Mack MD6 for 92k up to about 120k depending on application. My point is that these pickups are not worth what they charge. Not even close.
issues needed to be fixed inexcusably 1. Grid Heater bolt 2. hydro lifters the reason theres a standard OP is because the 68 can't handle any power at all. its the SAME engine, just tenued. nothing to do with wanting or needing more power in a HO version. Ram should have got rid of the 68RFE and Aisin in 2019 and went with the ZF like the Hemi HD did. absolutely ridiculous it took this long to get a decent trans.
My brother has the 68rfe 210k miles no issues so far mild tune 400 hp to wheel tow camper, cow trailer, atvs, and drive to work, not as much off road or severe duty as some of our other cummins but the trucks with manuals have needed clutches every few years and so have been more expensive than the 68rfe so in our fleet right now 3 trucks at 200k miles, the 68rfe lowest issues of the 3 @@adampetten1009
Sure makes my old 2001 Ram Cummins seem tame with 235 HP and 460 lb/ft of torque. But never any issues with it when I sold it with 250K miles. My current truck a 2022 GMC Crew Cab with the 3.0 LM2 Duramax and I absolutely love that engine.
@@edwardpate6128 I went from a Cummins to a Hemi and I wanna go back to diesel. Those little LM2’s are quite the engine! I wish Dodge would have offered a better diesel option in their 1/2 tons. The ecodiesel and hockey puck shifter has completely turned me away
Love my lm2 but hate the def and electronics! It’s been in the shop about 4 times in 35,000 miles! 2 for def and 2 for electronic brakes. The def exhaust had a bracket that cut into the main wire harness or grounds and now it’s dangerous! Brakes went out completely doing 60mph 100yards before an intersection with red lights, if my wife was driving someone would’ve died
@@slidewide1999 engine has no power I had a Hyundai Santa cruz pull away from me on the highway and I had the pedal to the floor, the transmission is shot won’t shift below 3rd gear until I’m completely stopped and try to get going it will rev up to 2500 rpm just sit there for 2-3 seconds then slam into first, the whole front end is shot both struts blown by 65k miles I never blew a strut or shock in my life, tailgate won’t open it just makes a weird noise and won’t open, the 12” screen is black half the time and doesn’t work, my phone barely connects to the truck, it used 6 gallons of antifreeze since new 2 dealers couldn’t find what’s going on with it, throttle response is horrible takes 3-4 seconds of pushing pedal for the truck to respond, e torque is shot when truck shuts off at a light and turns on to go it bumps truck forward then truck falls flat on its face and stops while engine revs and then It goes
@@16912outdoorsI have a 2004 Hemi. 310,000 miles. No engine lights on, no ticks, no clunks. Runs and drives every day. Sorry to hear that about your truck
On the Ford F450 we blew the first gear 3 times in the first 2 years we owned it. FYI it was bought brand new and it was converted to a tow truck by Ford
More gear selections is intended to keep the engine in its optimal power/torque range. With the broad range of power and torque these things are producing, I have to agree that it’s pointless.
@@travispower2683i can see that with a diesel since they have a much broader power range vs a gas motor. Our shop truck is a gas f250 with a 10 speed it's never out of the power range can mash and it just goes. If u know your about to pass give it a quick stab to make it down shift check your mirrors and go has already dropped from 10 to like 5th.
@@travispower2683That’s a weird take… Every 6 speed truck I’ve owned constantly hunted for gears when towing heavy, especially on hills. My 10 speed 250 doesn’t give a shit, and will hold 10th gear fine on cruise control with a 6 ton skid steer behind it.
I think it's still beneficial from an emissions and fuel economy standpoint. Diesels have a smaller rpm band to work with, and while they can technically pull fine almost anywhere within that, having finer control can help out.
@@ALMX5DP Like with electric motors, you don't necessary gain more control with more gears. Every time a transmission shifts, you create slip and loads and brief power skip that robs efficient power delivery. Beyond that, you also add complexity and weight. At some point, more gears just become diminished returns. And a small power band is exactly why you don't want more gears. The Cummins engine revs up to 3,000-ish RPM, but the meat of Cummins power band is even narrower, coming in at 1,600 RPM and dropping off at about 2,400 RPM. That's an 800 RPM window! How many gears can make you use of an 800 RPM?? This is not a Honda engine that revs to 9,000 RPM and where the peak of the power curve is in a completely different spot from the peak of the efficiency curve. A Cummins 6.7 is basically a low RPM tractor engine. It's designed to lug and work at steady load and low RPM. It does not need many gears to maintain peak efficiency.
@@justin_steen semi also only has like 1000 rpm gap from idle to redline, and are rated for twice the weight of the ram, and commonly have a higher gearing in the axles.
@@justin_steen That's not using the same logic. Semis might have plenty of low-end torque to use, but they also haul 80,000 pounds and have the aerodynamics of a house. They would make use of more ratios purely because they have more work to do. If you put a semi engine in your minivan, then you wouldn't need 18 speeds.
I’d be happy with a 160 hp Cummins and a manual transmission. It would be nice if truck manufacturers would make a “work truck” option along with their soccer dad options.
Watching a lot of your towing vehicles in have noticed that a lot of trucks with 10 speed transmissions do not perform well on the downhill portion when your are trying to rely on engine braking to maintain your speed. At will be interesting to see how this engine and tranny performs on the downhill.
I think that's mostly because they dont manually shift it. I get their rationale for seeing differences in stock programming, but at the same time anyone towing should be familiar with manual control and the benefits it has for towing.
I don’t think this has been true on the diesels with exhaust brakes. TfL often doesn’t use cruise or manual shifting either which would often solve the issue where present.
Well the 68 rfe was designed for a minivan. That’s probably why you see this dimwits stuck along the freeway with burned up transmissions. Towing weight for a passenger vehicle is not good. Never designed for it.
The issue is. Finding axles and transmissions to hold up to 1200 Lb # torque, I know when Cummins for came our and thru the early 2000's, Dana's and any auto couldn't hold up, and the engines were purposely DE-TUNED
I currently have the ZF in a 2500 w/6.4 Hemi and love the tranny vs the RFE. In 2025/26 I will be looking to get a 5500/550 and will not be looking at diesel (been there done that, not again). Is there any info on the CA offerings for gas? I am hoping that RAM offers the Cummins gasoline engine as an option. I am a RAM boy from way back and it would be sad to eliminate RAM from consideration.
In the 6 seater crew cab configuration, Ram needs to figure out foot and shin/knee space on the front middle seat. I just got a new work truck and after realizing neither my feet nor my wife’s feet (she has small feet) fit between the dash and the little tray below the front of the seat and our shins/knees were right up against the infotainment system, I passed over the Ram and went with a different brand. I know that might seem small and knit picky but I feel like if you need 6 seats in a crew cab like we do with 4 kids, you want them all to be useable and comfortable without putting your feet and legs in super awkward positions, even if that front middle seat is hard to make very comfortable. I hope they improve this on the next gen as I know it’s better in the competing brands. I think the ZF 8 speed will be a great option to be paired with the Cummins and look forward to hearing how that pairing works in the real world in future tests and videos.
we went with a Ford for the same reason. Another thing Ram has to improve on other than leg room is adding a 3 point seatbelt for that seat. Ford and GM have a 3 point while the Ram still uses a manual adjusting lap belt from the 1960s.
ZF have been making reliable transmissions for all sorts of vehicles in Europe for donkeys years, tractors, lorries,vans,cars , there's some with ZF's in there.
Never will make a comeback - the clutch and transmission yo hold that torque will have a heavy clutch and not be a nice smooth, quite transmission- features a automatic has. Plus not enough demand for a manual transmission.
The sell rate on manual transmissions, when they were available, was UNDER 1%. So, you think a manufacturer should waste money on an extremely low-volume option? Why?
Boy how times have changed, I remember the first time the HO Cummins was available, in 2001, you could only get it with the NV5600 and that was 2500 or 3500
My dad's first Cummins was a white 2001 3500 HO Cummins with a nv4500. 5 speed not the six. Had a 3.91 lsd 4x4 quad cab. But what an impression it left on the whole family. We all have mopars and Cummins trucks thanks to my parents. That truck felt so nimble and athletic. And so incredibly fast.
My Nissan Frontier has the 9 speed, and I do all my highway driving in 8th gear. If I use 9th gear, it's constantly shifting, 8th gear is much better, and I still only turn 2000rpm at 70mph, and get 23mpg. I think manufacturers sacrifice drivability for an extra mpg.
The law of diminishing returns applies to almost everything, the advantage in power and efficiency is probably so small the extra complexity and possibility less reliability may not be worthwhile?
They need to do something more with the rocker panels instead of there motors I’m still paying on my ram and I have to do work on rusty rocker panels and it’s un inspected next year do to the rust spot on the rocker panels need drain hole for them do to the salt sand mix they put on the roads we’re I live
I see you have the 12”x12” foam squares for sound treating the room. I had those for a while too. You should look into making some rock wool panels. Huge, huge, huge improvement from the foam squares. The foam squares made a minute difference. But 1 diy rock wool panel did more than an entire wall of foam squares
That’s why I’m not buying a new Ram HD the cab is much smaller than the competitors unless you get the MegaCab but you still don’t get a flat floor like their 1/2 pickups have. I’m still hopeful that they change it soon.
Need to have ZF design the hvac blend doors in these shitboxes while they're at it. Nothing has changed since '89. A fairly decent engine in the biggest piece of garbage truck and transmissions ever made. german dodge junk.
As for the future hybrid option, by 2027 Eaton will have a 48V mild hybrid option available for semi trucks. They already have a close collab here, as all trucks ordered with a Cummins get Eaton transmissions IMO we'll see something similar for ALL HD trucks soon thereafter
Good stuff. As far as a cab update, if it isnt broke, why fix it. Ram has had class leading interiors for a long time. Their cab dimensions allow for excellent room inside. I think refresh is fine. Why waste money and just exactly what would you try and fix?
They just Can switch the ram HDs to the new cab already in use in the 1500. It is more roomy. Cost is not much as it is already being made /used in the 1500s for several years.
@@kennethobando5755 This might be a good idea, but remember that for room, they have the megacab. I sold my megacab as the overall length was a pain in tight situations. My HD cab is roomy enough. I would not want to compromise bed length or make a longer truck to accomodate a bigger cab. Just personal preference.
Ford has better seats than Dodge. We have Ford and Dodge 5500 and the Ford's are nicer to Drive. Only problem is that the Ford's break down all of the time.
Agreed! Roll the rear windows down, leave the front windows up...go down the interstate @ 70mph and watch your front doors pulsate along with the whomp whomp whomp of the seat belts flapping in the wind to the point you feel the whomp whomp whomp physically in your head...tldr...sorry short story piss poor aerodynamics! Needs updating badly! My .2
@@rapmeister1000people who drive a mega cab don’t mind parking out in the boonies and taking up two spaces to get a bigger bed we all want a bigger bed on that truck and I always park way out anyway because the truck is already hard to park and I’ve had a mega cab since 2008 I daily drive
@@Justthemow I own a 2015 Mega Cab. It sticks out of regular parking spaces as is. There isn’t always 2 parking spaces to take up, & in some places they will ticket and tow you for doing so. There are garages I have to park in where one with an 8’ bed would not fit, like when I go to the VA hospital. So no, we all don’t want the longer bed. What I see as the better option, would be a mid gate.
Things about the powerline: The transmission in both 6th and 8th is using only one planetary set to provide the ratio. That means that unloaded cruising should be that much more efficient, the 10 speed on the other hand overdrives two sets to achieve top gear, slightly less efficient.
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Right, you will get and extra one tenth of a mile per gallon.
Quite alot of heat is generated thru the planetaries, enough the transmission has to be cooled even in lock up. So given that...its not zero net increase.
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@@blackopsrocks The extra ratios that keep the engine closer to its torque peak will probably deliver better fuel economy especially towing heavy loads.
Yes, I'm just stating that mechanically it will be more efficient with one less planetary to run in top gear. On the ford 10 speed you run the planets on the first and third sets for overdrive, which is technically 16 points of gear to gear contact and some might argue thats stronger...I would argue it is just producing more heat beause 10th kicks down pretty much immediately with a slight amount of input. The ZF trans runs 8 points of contact through one drum output and the others are hydraulically clutched to direct drive. I like that, its better, provided the gears are slightly larger and getting enough lube to keep them cool.
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@@blackopsrocks ZF says their 8 speed is better than a 10 speed you know that's BS.
Or how about stop making these types of trucks for the non commercial market? Too many Bro Dozers and men with fragile masculinity who don’t need these trucks or for that matter know how to work on them
I've taken a 2000 F-350 single rear wheel 7.3 L powerstroke and have all upgrades. Engine totally resealed and upgraded to 600 Hp with a stage 3 tranny with billet torque converter. Torque is well over a 1,000 flbs. No def no regen. Spent $20k and my truck is paid for and will outwork and outlast any of these new POS. It's not connected to my iPhone but it will run circle round the new ones.
This ZF 8HP automatic transmission is a gold nugget..... It`s used in Range Rover, VW Amarok, Jaguar and almost all BMW..... Not sure about Rolls Royce but I guess too. With a power output is really nice then you can have a lot of extra on the work truck.
Different transmission. Chrysler has been using the ZF since what, 2012? That’s similar to what is used in everything you mentioned. A decade plus in use. This is entirely different.
@@Tallnerdyguy Okay, new for me..... thanks But that is only for the gasoline engine, like V8!!..... There is a Chrysler automatic in the diesel jeep at least the older one.
Im a mopar mechanic and I won’t buy anything new from any manufacturer but I’d buy a brand new dodge if they get rid of the emissions garbage. Can’t have a vehicle going to stealership every other week
My dad has a 2021 ram 2500 Cummins and he is fed up with the DPF. He’s had nothing but trouble with it. He has no problem with the def though. He is looking for a gasser 1500 now. He is done with Diesel trucks with the emissions.
@@ta70615 It’s currently at the dealership getting new injectors at 50,000 miles because at least one of them was bad. The dealership couldn’t find the issue until last week when they drained the oil back down to full, took it on a 10 mile test drive and they saw a noticeable change in oil level. The DPF regen happens every 50 miles and sometimes it takes 50 miles to finish. He is going to either trade it in for a 1500 or sell it privately and get a 1500 once he gets it back.
Same, I bought a new 2023 F250 7.3L Godzilla. I will not buy a diesel with all the DEF crap that clogs up the engines. If you don't have a Cat to tow, go with a gas truck.
I get that my Silverado is only 1/2 ton but equipped with a 6.2 L engine I get over 20 mpg on the highway unloaded. If I add weight to get it to similar weight of a HD truck it has very little impact on mileage. 16 mpg unloaded sucks.
I posted this about the transmission over 2 years ago. I said they were going solely with the ZF transmissions for 2025 or 2026. Everyone said I had no idea what I was talking about. Well, I guess I do know what I'm talking about.
If you purchase a new 450, 550 or above with a diesel in CACAfornia, you will need to smog the truck twice a year plus register it with CARB before registering it with DMV. In 2027, that diesel will need to be smogged four times a year.
That's crazy because they're already heavily detuned versions of the 3/4 & 1 ton models. My fire department has a fairly new detuned F-550 mini-pumper that's maxed out on weight & needs more power along with better brakes. It sucks that Ford doesn't make the F-600 in a crew cab.
Who doesn't want more power? - Everyone who can count money. Silly question. We aren't talking about drag race fancy cars - we are talking about work trucks guys. Remember this!
Ram is the nest truck out there hands down, ford's are absolutely hideous and chevys look just like a Toyota, everyone always trying to copy what mopar does
When they were building HDs in St Louis and Saltillo, the Mexican plant outperformed the US plant by every measure, including QC. That's not a rumor, that is a fact directly from an engineer friend.
I am owner and operator transportation company. I am waiting to buy Rams but They've to fix emission systems, def systems and dpf filters because if they don't fix this problems they never sell a lot trucks and people will go ford or gmc. Which are around of me people's and my friends all waiting for new trucks. Just around of me like 250 peoples each ones buys minimum 10 trucks every 2 years. So calculate this.
Since 1979, Loyal Dodge/Ram/Jeep customer, but now Stellantis won't even get a chance to sell me anything. Took my 2017 Ram 2500 (lifetime Maxcare warranty) in for transmission issues in late July 2024, yep, need to replace the transmission. Today 8/21/2024 (nearly a month later) I got notice of ETA 10/4/24 for the new transmission. 394 transmissions on back-order, I'm number VOR 31 on the list. How can Ram/Stellantis think this is acceptable?
I’ll trade a 1,200 ft-lb engine for a 700 ft-lb 3-million mile engine any day.
Facts, the Cummins 12 and 24 valve is king of longevity
On Medium Duty trucks engines are derated from the factory. Ford gives them 250k mile engine warranty.
The HP/tq isn't what's killing the diesel engines today, it's the emissions systems.
@ShersGarage Ford does not have a 250,000 mile engine warranty, it's 100,000 miles.
Same. All I want is reliable. Period.
I’ve also heard that Ram and Cummins made a mutual decision to no longer chase power numbers with other manufacturers and focus more on the engines exhaust brake, efficiency, durability and adaptability. I think that’s very smart. I hope it’s all true.
If true, that would be great. Who actually pulls 40k lbs with these new pickups? Nobody I've ever seen, and I always defend buying for potential capability instead of necessity.
@@JoshAllenberg Farmers/ranchers and hot shot guys tend to pull numbers that high and they are partially the target audience. With oilfield and other industrial settings, most guys can only load everything up to 26k max but the bigger number is kinda reassureance that the truck can be abused harder
@@randomoinkbomb most of the time that I've seen hotshotters or farmers towing super heavy, they go for a 4500 or 5500. Idk if the 3500s having higher ratings will cause them to downgrade their purchases, but I'm sure something other than tow rating will come into consideration
@@JoshAllenberg The 5500 gets lower rated power, for longer lifespan. The 5500 has dual tanks, heavy duty frame, payload of over 12k lbs, etc..
May have something to do with not being able to meet emission specifications at higher power levels but from a marketing point of view the longevity claim sounds good.
New truck owners today are either , “my truck is a luxury cellphone lounge” or “ my truck will pull a house to the Eisenhower Tunnel doing 75 mph and never downshift”. You’ll find both owners in the service area at the dealer.
True, because if your ego is bigger than your personality, you're gonna but the one model with all the bells and whistles.
I want to be a new truck owner in a few years and want to be "the mid teir midsized truck owner". $45K for a Colorado Trail Boss with most options for mid range offroading and towing 6K ibs toy hauler
I see these dimwits all the time 90!mph dragging a boat or camper with bicycle tires and wonder what happened after the crash. Florida and South Carolina just made those lifted pickup illegal .
@@RossMalagarie Toyota tacoma if you’re looking for that off grid or overland rig.
Lol😂
does it matter when the average working man can't afford the overpriced computers on wheels.....that you can't even work on ???
Base price starts at $42,000.
Even my 2007 Duramax has more computers than I'm happy with. One bad ground and the whole thing wants to go down
@@DarkHorse08the average income cant afford a 40k$ vehicle though.
@@Dawson-dl5bz The average person does not need a 1 ton pickup truck…
@@Dawson-dl5bzthe average person who actually needs a ¾ or 1 ton pickup has a salary that CAN afford $42k though.
a P-Pump swapped 24 valve with a 4 door cab and a 6 speed manual... one can only dream
You can P-Pump a 6.7 😉
@@A1CanvasUpholsteringyes
@davidreynolds731 That was a statement😁
Like my ‘03
AMEN...
Hey guys, could you do us a favor and ask the ZF engineers what they recommend for fluid services on their transmissions.. mopar likes to say “lifetime” fluid which anyone with a brain knows there is no such thing. This is a highly debated topic and using your contacts at ZF it would be great to do a video on this topic. I would really appreciate a response …. Thanks.
Zf does recommend fluid changes ram doesn’t because rams life is 60k miles then they don’t care
@@16912outdoors lot of truth to that statement. As long as it gets past warranty that’s their definition of lifetime… LOL
I would look through BMW forums, because the ZF 8HP is used in every RWD/AWD application since >10 years.
There is an official fluid called "ZF Lifeguard Fluid 8" available in Germany, dont know about your location.
Depends on the type of driving you do. Maintenance frequency is stated in the owners manual
@@tsd560ti6 thanks for the advice. That’s a great idea.
Might as well just throw an ISX15 in there and call it good.
But where would you put the truck?
Isx is dogshit newer x15 or older n14
@@RyleyVelichka haha!! At least I didn’t say the 5.0 Cummins! N14 now that would be amazing
@@RyleyVelichkax15 is just as bad i had one eat a cam at 300k
@@RyleyVelichka until you delete the emissions and def she’s a solid motor
Ill still drive my 1st gen cummins with a nv5600 6 speed its simple , reliable and enjoy that old mechanical cummins. They should bring the manuals back.
Please bring manual transmissions back 🙏 simpler and more reliable
They should absolutely bring the manuals back, as long as you're willing to put up the 10s of millions of dollars to develop one suitable for this application.
not cost effective enough. bean counters look at cost to develop and how many are sold.
@@noobasdfjkl they had one up 2018 and it was good enough. just put it back on the market for 3 years and see the sales. if it sales enough, keep it in the lineup, if it don't, then yeah call it a day.
@@CabanonGuitarHero Lol, max torque rating for that manual was 610lb-ft. Mercedes doesn't even make that gearbox anymore. Again, are you willing to put up the millions of dollars so Dodge can buy the rights to it, build a manufacturing facility, and re-engineer the current trucks to accept this transmission? I thought not.
Somebody is still going to have to explain to me how more and more gears make better fuel mileage when cruising at highway speed. Seems like it all comes down to the final drive ratio and parasitic power loss through the geartrain. I typically go up through the gears then stay in high gear for hours. The 7 or 9 lower gears, depending on which transmission, will help me make more mileage? Whatever. If the transmission wastes less power in it's gears, clutches, etc., now that makes some sense. But that has nothing to do with the number of gears available. I have a 6 speed currently and am perfectly satisfied with 6 speeds. Encouraging to see that Ram didn't jump on the 10spd bandwagon just because everyone else did.
are they gonna fix the grid heater problem or leave that ticking timebomb there?
A great question.
They should do a colab with Banks like the Suburbans back in the day
There's already cheap fixes for that. It's not like a cp4 😂
They should bring the manual back!
Not in so ca traffic.
No one bought them. That's why they are no longer offered.
Used G56 Rams are going crazy on value because they're hard to find.
@@williamholman7703 I have the 2008 Ram 4500 dump with the 6-speed manual. Automatics suck period. Then need to offer an Eaton 7 or 8 speed.
Swap in 6 spd yourself
If the EPA and the DOT would be realistic and eliminate most of the federal regulations, we could have decent equipment that gets good fuel mileage and towing capacity.
The EPA and the GOV. r both stupid, when it comes too diesel,s
Delete it.
Diesel electric is THE preferred hybrid!! Locomotives have been doing this for a long time. Quite the marketing potential as well.
I'm 100% more interested in this than any EV
Checkout Edison Motors, if you aren’t aware of them.
Allison is testing these now at the GM proving grounds. 2 speed elect motors for even more range. They will be colossal. Won't even need diesel, gas will recharge it all just fine.
Could be done with a 3-4L I-6 diesel generator. That would be pretty cool. Ramcharger 3500?
Yea, I realized this isn't quite the same thing. A diesel electric motor is actually using a diesel generator to power an electric motor. Anyway, tinkering with these technologies is super cool, but will inevitably become waaaay outside of most folks' price range!
I don't want a new diesel unless it has the emission system removed.
Then you just won’t have a new diesel because emissions requirements aren’t going away anytime soon
Will never happen
Toyota still builds 70 series Land Cruisers with a mechanical injection naturally aspirated Diesel in markets with lax emissions standards
And I don't want a new gasoline car unless it's carburated.
Funnily enough, the emissions system is probably the only thing my dad hasnt had a problem with on his 21 f250. 😂
More power means nothing. Fix the previous issues and make them more reliable.
I’m not a fan of all these higher speed transmissions. I bought a 2024 Chevrolet 2500 gas with the 10 speed Allison BRANDED transmission. Kept it 1 year and had too many issues. Was in the shop 3 times for 29 days. Got rid of it last week. 6 speeds are plenty in my opinion.
Been a diesel tech at master level for 20 years. I can’t believe people keep falling for these new trucks. I must have done something wrong in life. I can’t buy a +$100k dollar truck, delete it, and put it on marketplace next year. I mean I got rent and kids and insurance to pay for. Good thing I’m content not racing mustangs in my 3500hd that never had a trailer on it or even locked in 4x4. I somehow just keep making it through life with my 305 Chevy half ton and my 6.5 suburban. Crazy. Oh btw, you can buy a Mack MD for the price of a pickup. 😂
A new diesel truck starts around 50k which isn’t bad. Most people just want options.
@@josephsamsor1698 yeah maybe a single cab 2500 2wd. Don’t see many of those. I see mostly 2500 or 3500 dually with pretty loaded out trim. So most trucks sold I would bet are in the 80k range on up to 99k for a limited. You can get a 2024 Mack MD6 for 92k up to about 120k depending on application. My point is that these pickups are not worth what they charge. Not even close.
Trending in the right direction. Fix flaws in Cummins, replace the 68. And for all of us we need the DT cab.
issues needed to be fixed inexcusably
1. Grid Heater bolt
2. hydro lifters
the reason theres a standard OP is because the 68 can't handle any power at all. its the SAME engine, just tenued. nothing to do with wanting or needing more power in a HO version. Ram should have got rid of the 68RFE and Aisin in 2019 and went with the ZF like the Hemi HD did. absolutely ridiculous it took this long to get a decent trans.
My brother has the 68rfe 210k miles no issues so far mild tune 400 hp to wheel tow camper, cow trailer, atvs, and drive to work, not as much off road or severe duty as some of our other cummins but the trucks with manuals have needed clutches every few years and so have been more expensive than the 68rfe so in our fleet right now 3 trucks at 200k miles, the 68rfe lowest issues of the 3
@@adampetten1009
Lower HP, fewer gears, 6-8 is ideal. Remember the KISS method. That’s what makes things last.
Any company who "keeps it simple" won't be in business for much longer in such a highly competitive market.
@@user-mh5qg5jb7dyou realize ram heavy duty trucks are more popular for heavy duty work
Sure makes my old 2001 Ram Cummins seem tame with 235 HP and 460 lb/ft of torque. But never any issues with it when I sold it with 250K miles. My current truck a 2022 GMC Crew Cab with the 3.0 LM2 Duramax and I absolutely love that engine.
@@edwardpate6128 I went from a Cummins to a Hemi and I wanna go back to diesel. Those little LM2’s are quite the engine! I wish Dodge would have offered a better diesel option in their 1/2 tons. The ecodiesel and hockey puck shifter has completely turned me away
Love my lm2 but hate the def and electronics! It’s been in the shop about 4 times in 35,000 miles! 2 for def and 2 for electronic brakes. The def exhaust had a bracket that cut into the main wire harness or grounds and now it’s dangerous! Brakes went out completely doing 60mph 100yards before an intersection with red lights, if my wife was driving someone would’ve died
Those little diesels are terrible engines. Get rid of it before it hits 100k. They have serious design flaws.
@@jeffhall768 literally every engine has design flaws lol
My 2022 ram is the first and last ram I ever own. Its a complete pile of s**t
I'm keeping my 1995 12 valve, it's not very fast, economical or a good automatic transmission but it doesn't give me problems. Had it 25 years now.
What’s wrong with it? I have a 22 2500 with 20k and 5k towing 12000 pounds, it’s on 35’s and has been flawless.
@@slidewide1999 engine has no power I had a Hyundai Santa cruz pull away from me on the highway and I had the pedal to the floor, the transmission is shot won’t shift below 3rd gear until I’m completely stopped and try to get going it will rev up to 2500 rpm just sit there for 2-3 seconds then slam into first, the whole front end is shot both struts blown by 65k miles I never blew a strut or shock in my life, tailgate won’t open it just makes a weird noise and won’t open, the 12” screen is black half the time and doesn’t work, my phone barely connects to the truck, it used 6 gallons of antifreeze since new 2 dealers couldn’t find what’s going on with it, throttle response is horrible takes 3-4 seconds of pushing pedal for the truck to respond, e torque is shot when truck shuts off at a light and turns on to go it bumps truck forward then truck falls flat on its face and stops while engine revs and then It goes
@@16912outdoorsI have a 2004 Hemi.
310,000 miles.
No engine lights on, no ticks, no clunks.
Runs and drives every day.
Sorry to hear that about your truck
Let’s just stick with diesel and stay away from green energy wokeness
ZF commented a long time ago that 9 or 10 speed transmissions were diminishing returns.
Agree 100 percent. I rented a 2022 F350 to tow a large fifth wheel toy hauler and honestly the ten speed is stupid. Just shifts too much.
On the Ford F450 we blew the first gear 3 times in the first 2 years we owned it. FYI it was bought brand new and it was converted to a tow truck by Ford
More gear selections is intended to keep the engine in its optimal power/torque range. With the broad range of power and torque these things are producing, I have to agree that it’s pointless.
@@travispower2683i can see that with a diesel since they have a much broader power range vs a gas motor. Our shop truck is a gas f250 with a 10 speed it's never out of the power range can mash and it just goes. If u know your about to pass give it a quick stab to make it down shift check your mirrors and go has already dropped from 10 to like 5th.
@@travispower2683That’s a weird take… Every 6 speed truck I’ve owned constantly hunted for gears when towing heavy, especially on hills. My 10 speed 250 doesn’t give a shit, and will hold 10th gear fine on cruise control with a 6 ton skid steer behind it.
Cummins don't need 10 speeds with where the torque curve is. V8s like more gears since they rev higher.
I think it's still beneficial from an emissions and fuel economy standpoint. Diesels have a smaller rpm band to work with, and while they can technically pull fine almost anywhere within that, having finer control can help out.
With that logic semis don’t need 18 speeds
@@ALMX5DP Like with electric motors, you don't necessary gain more control with more gears. Every time a transmission shifts, you create slip and loads and brief power skip that robs efficient power delivery. Beyond that, you also add complexity and weight. At some point, more gears just become diminished returns.
And a small power band is exactly why you don't want more gears. The Cummins engine revs up to 3,000-ish RPM, but the meat of Cummins power band is even narrower, coming in at 1,600 RPM and dropping off at about 2,400 RPM. That's an 800 RPM window! How many gears can make you use of an 800 RPM??
This is not a Honda engine that revs to 9,000 RPM and where the peak of the power curve is in a completely different spot from the peak of the efficiency curve. A Cummins 6.7 is basically a low RPM tractor engine. It's designed to lug and work at steady load and low RPM. It does not need many gears to maintain peak efficiency.
@@justin_steen semi also only has like 1000 rpm gap from idle to redline, and are rated for twice the weight of the ram, and commonly have a higher gearing in the axles.
@@justin_steen That's not using the same logic. Semis might have plenty of low-end torque to use, but they also haul 80,000 pounds and have the aerodynamics of a house. They would make use of more ratios purely because they have more work to do.
If you put a semi engine in your minivan, then you wouldn't need 18 speeds.
I’d be happy with a 160 hp Cummins and a manual transmission. It would be nice if truck manufacturers would make a “work truck” option along with their soccer dad options.
the 2.8L cummins makes 180hp
Watching a lot of your towing vehicles in have noticed that a lot of trucks with 10 speed transmissions do not perform well on the downhill portion when your are trying to rely on engine braking to maintain your speed. At will be interesting to see how this engine and tranny performs on the downhill.
I think that's mostly because they dont manually shift it. I get their rationale for seeing differences in stock programming, but at the same time anyone towing should be familiar with manual control and the benefits it has for towing.
I don’t think this has been true on the diesels with exhaust brakes. TfL often doesn’t use cruise or manual shifting either which would often solve the issue where present.
They all perform “well”, better than a few years ago for sure, and some are better than others.
Well the 68 rfe was designed for a minivan. That’s probably why you see this dimwits stuck along the freeway with burned up transmissions. Towing weight for a passenger vehicle is not good. Never designed for it.
Ive found that even in a 2016 silverado 2500 with the duramax down, shifting the transmission helps tremendously with the exhaust brake
There is no way anyone would buy a new Ram 2500 if the cab and bed is still the same as the one from 2010. It needs to be updated.
I build these engines for a living. It's so much fun seeing these new trucks and others that I've likely had a hand in building the engine.
I wonder if either of these guys ever worked for a living
Limited will be 150k Canadian Probably
Already that much... Looked at one, 122k before taxes... So add about 15k to that, then finance it... 160k truck all day.
The current model 2500/3500 Laramie is around $191 000 Aus in Australia .
Unless you own a successful roofing company, who's dropping 160k?
The issue is. Finding axles and transmissions to hold up to 1200 Lb # torque, I know when Cummins for came our and thru the early 2000's, Dana's and any auto couldn't hold up, and the engines were purposely DE-TUNED
So Hemi lives on?
Hope so
Yeah, that wasn’t clear to me either
Yes unless they have been doing a good job at hiding an entirely new engine thats just for the trucks
Only in the HD rams.
I currently have the ZF in a 2500 w/6.4 Hemi and love the tranny vs the RFE. In 2025/26 I will be looking to get a 5500/550 and will not be looking at diesel (been there done that, not again). Is there any info on the CA offerings for gas? I am hoping that RAM offers the Cummins gasoline engine as an option. I am a RAM boy from way back and it would be sad to eliminate RAM from consideration.
In the 6 seater crew cab configuration, Ram needs to figure out foot and shin/knee space on the front middle seat. I just got a new work truck and after realizing neither my feet nor my wife’s feet (she has small feet) fit between the dash and the little tray below the front of the seat and our shins/knees were right up against the infotainment system, I passed over the Ram and went with a different brand. I know that might seem small and knit picky but I feel like if you need 6 seats in a crew cab like we do with 4 kids, you want them all to be useable and comfortable without putting your feet and legs in super awkward positions, even if that front middle seat is hard to make very comfortable. I hope they improve this on the next gen as I know it’s better in the competing brands. I think the ZF 8 speed will be a great option to be paired with the Cummins and look forward to hearing how that pairing works in the real world in future tests and videos.
we went with a Ford for the same reason. Another thing Ram has to improve on other than leg room is adding a 3 point seatbelt for that seat. Ford and GM have a 3 point while the Ram still uses a manual adjusting lap belt from the 1960s.
Will the average recreational tower realize a difference between 1000lb-ft and 1200lb-ft towing their 8k TT? I doubt it.
Am looking at ZF transmission right now lol thy have built transmissions for years for tractors
ZF have been making reliable transmissions for all sorts of vehicles in Europe for donkeys years, tractors, lorries,vans,cars , there's some with ZF's in there.
and this is why i drive my 96 f350 7.3... it runs drives does everything i need its cheap.
Great truck!
@@rdallas81 Yep love it.
All of the big 3 really need to bring back a 5 or 6 speed manual transmission. These automatics are getting way too complex.
Never will make a comeback - the clutch and transmission yo hold that torque will have a heavy clutch and not be a nice smooth, quite transmission- features a automatic has. Plus not enough demand for a manual transmission.
@@kennethobando5755 disappointing but absolutely all true. Hardley any demand at all. Thats why my newest truck is a 2000.
No demand because there isnt one 😂😂 🤡🤡🤡@@kennethobando5755
The autos are superior in nearly every way
The sell rate on manual transmissions, when they were available, was UNDER 1%. So, you think a manufacturer should waste money on an extremely low-volume option? Why?
No stupid hybrids in a heavy work truck. No batteries, no hydrogen. Diesel. No substitute.
When is the 2025 Ram 1500 Hurricane Ike Gauntlet videos coming?
We published a Hurricane Ike on the 2025 Ram 1500 Rebel.
They did it at the begining of june and its coolant temp hit 249*F on a 59*F day.
They never posted it on their website, just TH-cam.
@@TFLtruck Why didnt you ever post that video on your website?
Just bring back the manual transmission!!!
Just lock out your gears
@@JamesHootsnot the same plus they aren't as durable or as cheap to fix as manuals. A new clutch vs a Trans rebuild is nice
Boy how times have changed, I remember the first time the HO Cummins was available, in 2001, you could only get it with the NV5600 and that was 2500 or 3500
I had a 2001 with the HO and NV5600. What a great truck it was. Sold it, and it's still on the road with about 480000km on it now
My dad's first Cummins was a white 2001 3500 HO Cummins with a nv4500. 5 speed not the six. Had a 3.91 lsd 4x4 quad cab. But what an impression it left on the whole family. We all have mopars and Cummins trucks thanks to my parents. That truck felt so nimble and athletic. And so incredibly fast.
@@MoparGuy-x1r HO only came with the 6-speed.
Why don't they offer a manual transmission, nobody wants a crappy automatic transmission in their heavy duty truck
nobody actually bought the manual when they did offer it. It was under 1% take rate
My Nissan Frontier has the 9 speed, and I do all my highway driving in 8th gear. If I use 9th gear, it's constantly shifting, 8th gear is much better, and I still only turn 2000rpm at 70mph, and get 23mpg. I think manufacturers sacrifice drivability for an extra mpg.
my 6 speed tacoma does that also, i keep it in 5th on the highway
Will there also be an option for a self-lifting cab in order to reduce maintenance and repair costs?
10 speeds are a gift from God. They're always in the powerband.
The law of diminishing returns applies to almost everything, the advantage in power and efficiency is probably so small the extra complexity and possibility less reliability may not be worthwhile?
ZF already has a plant in South Carolina.
Yep.
I worked on that plant!
Yess they do but they can't build the transmissions like we do or the quantity we do, we build all their 8 speed and 9 speed here in Indiana
You have have to pulled yo asse to. When we pulled. Up to you???
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Great video as always. I truly believe that heavy duty trucks don’t need more than eight speed transmission.
I hope that they decide on a 290 Cummins with a 5X4 transmission.
They need to do something more with the rocker panels instead of there motors I’m still paying on my ram and I have to do work on rusty rocker panels and it’s un inspected next year do to the rust spot on the rocker panels need drain hole for them do to the salt sand mix they put on the roads we’re I live
I see you have the 12”x12” foam squares for sound treating the room.
I had those for a while too.
You should look into making some rock wool panels. Huge, huge, huge improvement from the foam squares.
The foam squares made a minute difference. But 1 diy rock wool panel did more than an entire wall of foam squares
I'd like a motor the will last but it seems the trucks fall apart before you get to wear out the motor anyways.
Just getting tooooo expensive
That’s why I’m not buying a new Ram HD the cab is much smaller than the competitors unless you get the MegaCab but you still don’t get a flat floor like their 1/2 pickups have. I’m still hopeful that they change it soon.
CDJR is circling the drain. Stellantis is killing their North American car lines.
Their pricing strategy is for sure unsustainable.
How about build it in the US so you have better quality control plus us jobs
Need to have ZF design the hvac blend doors in these shitboxes while they're at it. Nothing has changed since '89. A fairly decent engine in the biggest piece of garbage truck and transmissions ever made. german dodge junk.
ZF is good.
@@melissasmess2773 Yeah. After 30 years of 48 and 68 junk. Finally.
As for the future hybrid option, by 2027 Eaton will have a 48V mild hybrid option available for semi trucks. They already have a close collab here, as all trucks ordered with a Cummins get Eaton transmissions
IMO we'll see something similar for ALL HD trucks soon thereafter
Have you heard of 'Edison motors' ? They've already built a hybrid semi and patented builds. They even do pick up truck kits. Go check them out
Its not a mild hybrid. Someone told you a fun bag of BS.
and only 150k what a deal!
Good stuff. As far as a cab update, if it isnt broke, why fix it. Ram has had class leading interiors for a long time. Their cab dimensions allow for excellent room inside. I think refresh is fine. Why waste money and just exactly what would you try and fix?
They just Can switch the ram HDs to the new cab already in use in the 1500. It is more roomy. Cost is not much as it is already being made /used in the 1500s for several years.
The new cab on 1500 is much larger than
@@kennethobando5755 This might be a good idea, but remember that for room, they have the megacab. I sold my megacab as the overall length was a pain in tight situations. My HD cab is roomy enough. I would not want to compromise bed length or make a longer truck to accomodate a bigger cab. Just personal preference.
Ford has better seats than Dodge.
We have Ford and Dodge 5500 and the Ford's are nicer to Drive. Only problem is that the Ford's break down all of the time.
@@488ci Ram have had THE industry standard interior for a half decade
Ram REALLLY needs to update their cabs. They are old, outdated, and showing their age badly compared to Ford and GM.
Agreed! Roll the rear windows down, leave the front windows up...go down the interstate @ 70mph and watch your front doors pulsate along with the whomp whomp whomp of the seat belts flapping in the wind to the point you feel the whomp whomp whomp physically in your head...tldr...sorry short story piss poor aerodynamics! Needs updating badly! My .2
They need a Mega Cab with an 8 foot box!!!
No, they need a proline van with an extra 8 foot bed added to the end; the perfect vehicle.
You’d never fit one in a parking space.
@@rapmeister1000people who drive a mega cab don’t mind parking out in the boonies and taking up two spaces to get a bigger bed we all want a bigger bed on that truck and I always park way out anyway because the truck is already hard to park and I’ve had a mega cab since 2008 I daily drive
@@Justthemow I own a 2015 Mega Cab. It sticks out of regular parking spaces as is. There isn’t always 2 parking spaces to take up, & in some places they will ticket and tow you for doing so. There are garages I have to park in where one with an 8’ bed would not fit, like when I go to the VA hospital.
So no, we all don’t want the longer bed. What I see as the better option, would be a mid gate.
A mega cab long bed is actually too long for a standard vehicle. It falls into the commercial category so it’s a bit complicated.
Only good thing about my short lived ownership of a Rebel 1500 was the transmission. Rest of the truck was absolute trash.
Gimme that Powerline!!!!!
Things about the powerline: The transmission in both 6th and 8th is using only one planetary set to provide the ratio. That means that unloaded cruising should be that much more efficient, the 10 speed on the other hand overdrives two sets to achieve top gear, slightly less efficient.
Right, you will get and extra one tenth of a mile per gallon.
Quite alot of heat is generated thru the planetaries, enough the transmission has to be cooled even in lock up. So given that...its not zero net increase.
@@blackopsrocks The extra ratios that keep the engine closer to its torque peak will probably deliver better fuel economy especially towing heavy loads.
Yes, I'm just stating that mechanically it will be more efficient with one less planetary to run in top gear. On the ford 10 speed you run the planets on the first and third sets for overdrive, which is technically 16 points of gear to gear contact and some might argue thats stronger...I would argue it is just producing more heat beause 10th kicks down pretty much immediately with a slight amount of input. The ZF trans runs 8 points of contact through one drum output and the others are hydraulically clutched to direct drive. I like that, its better, provided the gears are slightly larger and getting enough lube to keep them cool.
@@blackopsrocks ZF says their 8 speed is better than a 10 speed you know that's BS.
How about the 2025 Ramcharger plug-in hybrid?
Is there any more info on it?
That is basically a 2500 and it should launch in the late winter or spring
Or how about stop making these types of trucks for the non commercial market? Too many Bro Dozers and men with fragile masculinity who don’t need these trucks or for that matter know how to work on them
Who cares. It's their money. Can spend it how they want
I've taken a 2000 F-350 single rear wheel 7.3 L powerstroke and have all upgrades. Engine totally resealed and upgraded to 600 Hp with a stage 3 tranny with billet torque converter. Torque is well over a 1,000 flbs. No def no regen. Spent $20k and my truck is paid for and will outwork and outlast any of these new POS. It's not connected to my iPhone but it will run circle round the new ones.
No one watching this video gives a rats a** about your Ford. Stay on topic!
@@michaelsomales2264ok Cummins boys 🤦🤦🤡
@@michaelsomales2264 i care
Why not upgrade the radio so it works with your iPhone? That's cheap and easy
Cummins kinda blew it with their last engine redesign, hopefully they will correct these issues.
This ZF 8HP automatic transmission is a gold nugget..... It`s used in Range Rover, VW Amarok, Jaguar and almost all BMW..... Not sure about Rolls Royce but I guess too.
With a power output is really nice then you can have a lot of extra on the work truck.
Different transmission. Chrysler has been using the ZF since what, 2012? That’s similar to what is used in everything you mentioned. A decade plus in use.
This is entirely different.
Zf8hp is also in jeep, but the zf870 is thr newer iteration
@@Tallnerdyguyjeep is a part of chrysler genius😂😂😂
@@wyo_garage20 Okay, new for me..... thanks
@@Tallnerdyguy Okay, new for me..... thanks
But that is only for the gasoline engine, like V8!!..... There is a Chrysler automatic in the diesel jeep at least the older one.
Have they fixed that heater grid bolt failure on new trucks?
Just yet again one of many YT videos hyped trying to predict future vehicles with no factual info. Why can’t TH-camrs wait until then have the facts?
Gotta get them views man everyone knows that!!! Even if it's all speculation and half truths.......
Because you clicked on it.
Totally agree , bla, bla,bla, might as well be 2 broads discussing a soap opera on tv
@@randymengler540 🤯🤣🤣🤣
Im a mopar mechanic and I won’t buy anything new from any manufacturer but
I’d buy a brand new dodge if they get rid of the emissions garbage. Can’t have a vehicle going to stealership every other week
A litle late to this news TFL.
If it’s truck news and TFL has not reported it….is it news?😉
@@TFLtruck Yes, your arrogant always-late-to-the-show “news” channel.
@@H-RutherfordHill Why even bother commenting then?
Who can afford these trucks. RAM lots are full of 2023 and 2024 trucks and now 2025's. $116K for a truck, wow. What is going to happen to RAM?
My dad has a 2021 ram 2500 Cummins and he is fed up with the DPF. He’s had nothing but trouble with it. He has no problem with the def though. He is looking for a gasser 1500 now. He is done with Diesel trucks with the emissions.
Wait till his turbo goes out
Why so many issues with it? I traded my 2017 Cummins with 58k miles on it for a 2024 and had zero issues with anything.
@@ta70615 It’s currently at the dealership getting new injectors at 50,000 miles because at least one of them was bad. The dealership couldn’t find the issue until last week when they drained the oil back down to full, took it on a 10 mile test drive and they saw a noticeable change in oil level. The DPF regen happens every 50 miles and sometimes it takes 50 miles to finish. He is going to either trade it in for a 1500 or sell it privately and get a 1500 once he gets it back.
Same, I bought a new 2023 F250 7.3L Godzilla. I will not buy a diesel with all the DEF crap that clogs up the engines. If you don't have a Cat to tow, go with a gas truck.
My state doesn’t do emissions so I’m having mine removed
I gotta say I have a 21’ 6.4 2500 and a 23’ Cummins 2500 and the ZF trans in the 6.4 is so much better than the 68RFE
Now your talking diesel hybrid would be best of all worlds.
The 10 speed in the F150 is a pile of shit,Ford has a class action lawsuit against them on this transmission
I get that my Silverado is only 1/2 ton but equipped with a 6.2 L engine I get over 20 mpg on the highway unloaded. If I add weight to get it to similar weight of a HD truck it has very little impact on mileage. 16 mpg unloaded sucks.
it is probably the tires. my f250 and f150 tires have a pretty big difference
I posted this about the transmission over 2 years ago. I said they were going solely with the ZF transmissions for 2025 or 2026. Everyone said I had no idea what I was talking about. Well, I guess I do know what I'm talking about.
Stellantis moving in for the kill. Maybe Elon Musk has some spare change to salvage Chrysler and Dodge? It’s pretty obvious what the end game is. Sad.
Natural gas & propane are more accessible than hydrogen & easier to adapt for diesels
Hydrogen is such a dumb fuel. It's a massive net loss in energy
If you purchase a new 450, 550 or above with a diesel in CACAfornia, you will need to smog the truck twice a year plus register it with CARB before registering it with DMV. In 2027, that diesel will need to be smogged four times a year.
That's insane
Or, move out of Cali to free America.
That's crazy because they're already heavily detuned versions of the 3/4 & 1 ton models. My fire department has a fairly new detuned F-550 mini-pumper that's maxed out on weight & needs more power along with better brakes. It sucks that Ford doesn't make the F-600 in a crew cab.
Move out of that comie land
CA is absolutely crazy...What a bunch of nut jobs....
Who doesn't want more power? - Everyone who can count money. Silly question. We aren't talking about drag race fancy cars - we are talking about work trucks guys. Remember this!
Have they fixed the failing Bosch cp4 failing fuel pumps?
Cummins stopped using cp4 pumps a few years ago
Ram supposedly stopped using the CP4 after many failures and went to CP3. Chevy uses Denso. Ford is still on CP4 🙄
Nah, they just put cp3 back in
They are recalling all ram with cp4 .call ur local dealer to swap back in cp3 with no customer cost.
They used the CP4 in 2019 and 2020 only
I want a manual transmission that’s it
RAM is killin it!!! 🏆👍👏🏻👏🏻
lol
Ram is killed for sure 🤣
No Stellantis is killing Ram!
Ram is the nest truck out there hands down, ford's are absolutely hideous and chevys look just like a Toyota, everyone always trying to copy what mopar does
Without a MT, who cares!
Made in Mexico means much lower quality. The plants reliably turn out substandard products.
When they were building HDs in St Louis and Saltillo, the Mexican plant outperformed the US plant by every measure, including QC. That's not a rumor, that is a fact directly from an engineer friend.
Ya Americans are such hard workers 😂😂😂😂
Tell that to toyota.
After driving over 700,000 miles in my 2011, completely disagree!
@@jeramiahshastid6041 also means they are rapists and murderers, no?
So what. A more powerful Cummins HO at 425 ponies and a third-party new transmission.
Same rumours/news that comes out of Dodge every year.
I wonder what this versions fatal flaw will be??? My KDP on my 12 valve was an easy fix 👍
1 thing I do know is, it will cost a lot.
I didn't even do the one in my 97 yet with 170k on it
@@petek6522 mine had around 200K on it and the pin was barely sticking out HOWEVER I sleep much better at night now
I put 505,000 on my '94 that I bought new and never got around to doing the kdp.
@@user-pgchargerse71 I’ve heard the KDP is mostly urban legend but the thought is scary enough to warrant doing it ha. The alternative is SCARY
Still using the 2009 cab 🙄
I am owner and operator transportation company. I am waiting to buy Rams but They've to fix emission systems, def systems and dpf filters because if they don't fix this problems they never sell a lot trucks and people will go ford or gmc.
Which are around of me people's and my friends all waiting for new trucks.
Just around of me like 250 peoples each ones buys minimum 10 trucks every 2 years. So calculate this.
And still using a version of the 4th gen cab instead of the larger 5th gen cab the 1500's been using. 😑
Where does it end ? 30 speed? Truck market is out of control
How about an 8 speed auto, with a 2 speed rear axle. Sounds like fun, doesn't it?😅
I don't haul enough to replace my 1995 2500 12 valve unfortunately, which is probably a good thing 😜
this is confusing and disjointed. Your statements about mo power are idiotic. Come on guys. You can do better.
Since 1979, Loyal Dodge/Ram/Jeep customer, but now Stellantis won't even get a chance to sell me anything. Took my 2017 Ram 2500 (lifetime Maxcare warranty) in for transmission issues in late July 2024, yep, need to replace the transmission. Today 8/21/2024 (nearly a month later) I got notice of ETA 10/4/24 for the new transmission. 394 transmissions on back-order, I'm number VOR 31 on the list. How can Ram/Stellantis think this is acceptable?