It's Not Just Diesel Anymore: Cummins Built a GAS Engine We Want to See in the Next Ram HD!

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 มี.ค. 2024
  • ( www.alltfl.com/) Check out our new spot to find ALL our content, from news to videos and our podcasts! Cummins built a new "fuel-agnostic" powertrain based around their B6.7 diesel engine, including a gasoline variant called the B6.7 Octane. Andre and Nathan go into more detail on this engine including the most obvious place we'd like to see it in action: Ram's Heavy Duty truck lineup!
    ( / tflcar ) Visit our Patreon page to support the TFL team!
    Watch more videos from TFL Studios:
    The Fast Lane Truck ( / tfltruck )
    The Fast Lane Car ( / tflcar )
    TFLoffroad ( / tfloffroad )
    TFLbike ( / tflbike )
    TFLnow ( / tflnow )
    TFLclassics ( / tflclassics )
    TFLtalk ( / tfltalk )
    TFL Podcasts:
    TFL Talkin' Cars Podcast ( redcircle.com/shows/tfltalk-c... )
    TFL Talkin' Trucks Podcast ( redcircle.com/shows/tfl-talki... )
    #cummins #engine #news
  • ยานยนต์และพาหนะ

ความคิดเห็น • 685

  • @uresti27
    @uresti27 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    I work for Cummins and seeing the tech they’re coming out with behind the scenes is mind blowing. Excited for what’s coming out!

    • @overbuiltautomotive1299
      @overbuiltautomotive1299 หลายเดือนก่อน

      have they fixed the diesel block yet .they lighten up new design and now it stretches

    • @uresti27
      @uresti27 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@overbuiltautomotive1299 what engine are we talking about?

    • @marcusrussell3375
      @marcusrussell3375 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The 6.7…they reduced the block weight and now the crank main caps are fretting

    • @uresti27
      @uresti27 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@marcusrussell3375 I know they reduced the weight but the engineers also claim that it’s stronger than ever. In the heady duty world we don’t really see issues with the bottom end on an ISB. We do see a lot of dropped valve seats and what not.

    • @Adamr916
      @Adamr916 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@overbuiltautomotive1299 the engine that's in the Ram trucks is completely different from the actual B6.7 engines

  • @golfbravowhiskey8669
    @golfbravowhiskey8669 หลายเดือนก่อน +134

    We have 7 15L Cummins running on natgas here in the oil field. All have over 50,000hrs on them trouble free.

    • @freedomisntfree_44
      @freedomisntfree_44 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      We’ve ran propane mowers for landscaping and the oil always looked new on them. Just didn’t have the pick up gasoline does

    • @darryladams519
      @darryladams519 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      915 cubic inches

    • @MrPizzaman09
      @MrPizzaman09 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Are these ISX12 N engines? The X15 N is brand new and hasn't been around for 50k hrs (7+ years). Or were they converted for dual fuel?

    • @pruitt3507
      @pruitt3507 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do you see lot of cat 3520 natgas engines?

    • @idk9130
      @idk9130 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@freedomisntfree_44i see what u did there

  • @ColJonSquall1
    @ColJonSquall1 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    The look on Nathan's Face @0:17 when Andre makes a Sir Mix Alot reference, is priceless, lol.

    • @63Imp283
      @63Imp283 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I can't believe he didn't laugh out loud! Lol

  • @pernell4351
    @pernell4351 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    Cummins already makes natural gas engines for their natural gas generators that we use offshore and on hospitals in South Louisiana and also for water pump stations some big 6.7 L engines that work off natural gas. Or to run on diesel, the engine designed to run on natural gas or diesel whatever fuel you have.

    • @mddunlap03
      @mddunlap03 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I bet the gasoline launches forst

  • @fsctrucking
    @fsctrucking หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Gasoline. The best delete kit made. I literally specifically ordered my Duallie 3500 with a Hemi to avoid the issues of Diesel Regulations.

    • @scotcoon1186
      @scotcoon1186 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Particulate filters are coming for gas engines.

    • @benjamincresswell3713
      @benjamincresswell3713 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The EPA is completely corrupt. I used to work in emissions and I watched as the Diesel just got destroyed by regulations. Everything go tso sophisticated it is an abomination. My belief is they EPA is in cahoots and wants to shut down the entire internal combustion prime mover industry. Electricity is a SECONDARY energy. That means you have to generate it somewhere else then put it to work remotely as in wires everywhere or batteries. It is so inefficient to do it that way. but people are just sitting and letting them take our freedom away from us. We need to take a stand somehow and shut the EPA right down and disassemble it.

    • @motorhead281
      @motorhead281 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Shhhh, if everyone knows our secret, gas engines will be more expensive. "YEAH DUDE, GAS IS FOR PUSSYS!"

    • @Failure_Is_An_Option
      @Failure_Is_An_Option หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good thing you are a liar. Otherwise you are dumb.

    • @CS-vw3db
      @CS-vw3db หลายเดือนก่อน

      A hemi and straight six gas engine are not equal. Your gonna drop a valve far before a cummins would.

  • @knightwing4
    @knightwing4 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    One thing I think is that if they give up Cummins in heavy duty truck while the other manufacturers still have their diesels they will loose. Ram Trucks are very nice trucks but Cummins is a big part of what people like about them. Replacing the Hemi with a Cummins gas engine might work as long as it performs but if they give up Cummins diesel for some in house motor I think that would be a huge mistake. Cummins has a loyal following and I think people will walk away without it.

    • @thevortex6754
      @thevortex6754 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think it just allows for more and better options. Because Cummins and Ram are so good, and like you said, Cummins has a loyal following, Ram and Cummins might do better with this head change tech. I love Cummins, I’d buy any engine they make, gas, math as, or diesel, great engines

    • @tangydiesel1886
      @tangydiesel1886 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The cummins name is the only reason Ram uses their engine. Fiat makes their own 6.7 engine for their CNH equipment. (case/new holland)

  • @cliffh8486
    @cliffh8486 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    this will be the next "12 valve" as far as reliability and cost of ownership. I have been saying this for years, someone needs to build an industrial straight 6 gas turbo commercial hybrid platform. they will eventually get a ton of torque out of this thing.

  • @user-zq3wt4qq9b
    @user-zq3wt4qq9b หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Kubota did this because they already had diesel blocks, doesn't work the other way around because diesel blocks are stronger than gas blocks. Could make a VERY long lasting gas enginge

    • @VHP7044
      @VHP7044 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Agree, The big challenge for a spark ignited engine is the ability to transfer heat into the jacket water. With direct injection, 3 way catalyst and a specific cylinder head this engine could be really successful. It takes more than just putting a spark plug into a diesel head and calling it a day.

  • @legrandechene3734
    @legrandechene3734 หลายเดือนก่อน +121

    Good to see some ICE innovation in the face of the EV onslaught.

    • @Failure_Is_An_Option
      @Failure_Is_An_Option หลายเดือนก่อน

      Geee... If you don't consume Fux and OAN you would know nothing stopped on the ICE side.

  • @tornadotj2059
    @tornadotj2059 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I think it's a great idea for Ram to use these. Heck, they don't have to change any tooling, just built the chassis for the existing diesel and the gas version of this will bolt right up.

  • @derekbryant6137
    @derekbryant6137 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Well if they got a crate engine solution and you can put it in an existing Ram because you want to get rid of the death filters and still have the ability to pull a trailer or haul a load that would be awesome and the possibility you could retrofit this to an older truck and have a stick shift behind it

  • @SomeTechGuy666
    @SomeTechGuy666 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    International used to build a huge I6 gasoline engine. The biggest one was 501 ci. But they also had 401,406,450.

    • @dennisyoung4631
      @dennisyoung4631 หลายเดือนก่อน

      1091 Hall-Scott inline 6…

    • @marcusharriss1979
      @marcusharriss1979 หลายเดือนก่อน

      International is absolute junk!

  • @ds77sstx27
    @ds77sstx27 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Here's hoping we actually see this show up in HD trucks preferably in both gas and diesel versions, but if nothing else, in a gas version!

  • @collinator68
    @collinator68 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    So will the gasoline 6.7L inline 6 cylinder be turbocharged? A 6.7L turbo inline 6 gas engine would actually be pretty cool.

    • @edspencer7121
      @edspencer7121 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      We'll put Gail Banks to work on that.

  • @ramcharger1978
    @ramcharger1978 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    YES, this interests me very much. In fact the concept and application of multi-fuel diesel/inline engines has been used by US Army 2.5 and 5 ton military trucks since the 1960’s. This has a military component in it as well!!!!

    • @nooneproductions27
      @nooneproductions27 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Abrams can run on Diesel or Jet ✈️

  • @derricklowell
    @derricklowell หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Absolutely interested in all the power plants that Cummins is making, and hopefully ram stays with Cummins

  • @NYPATRIOTBX
    @NYPATRIOTBX หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    We have buses with the 6.7 that run in CNG. Super quiet engines.

  • @mountainsintomemories
    @mountainsintomemories หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The gas Cummins, especially with numbers like you mention, would absolutely entice me to look at new trucks. I think it could wipe the floor with Fords 7.3 v8.

  • @gregkocher5352
    @gregkocher5352 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    In the 90s there was available a natural gas and diesel mixed fuel aftermarket kit for large trucks and later for smaller diesel vehicles. These used about 25% methane and 75% diesel. The improvement in noise, emissions, mpg, and smoothness was incredible. It was also complicated. But it might have been better than DPF measures.

    • @KevinJames-yg9eu
      @KevinJames-yg9eu หลายเดือนก่อน

      As an engineer at a truck manufacturer, I have more recent experience with Diesel engines that have aftermarket conversions to run on natural gas. On smaller engines, like a Cummins B, they entirely eliminate the Diesel fuel by installing spark plugs in place of the injectors and pumping natural gas into the intake manifold. On larger engines, like a Cummins X, they make dual-fuel system that uses a small amount of Diesel fuel as a pilot injection to light off the natural gas.

  • @adriangomez182
    @adriangomez182 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Imaging this with a 10 speed Eaton

  • @loum.4377
    @loum.4377 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Great news from Cummins.

  • @williampierce5615
    @williampierce5615 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Cummins is gonna do this. I spoke with a sales rep years ago

    • @BruceDragon-sf1tr
      @BruceDragon-sf1tr หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Its a fail project, even the thought.
      Cummins will lose money, they better stick to that diesel

  • @davidroche9964
    @davidroche9964 หลายเดือนก่อน +91

    Multi fuel engines have been around for industrial and military since the the 1930's

    • @jdking25
      @jdking25 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      This isn't multi fuel. Each engine will still be only single fuel type

    • @gearhead7896
      @gearhead7896 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for calling it multi fuel. That's what is was, is, and has always been the term. Not this bs term that Cummins is calling it.

    • @davidroche9964
      @davidroche9964 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gearhead7896 Yeah, they refine it and give it raised white letters and they've reinvented the wheel. 🤔

    • @gearhead7896
      @gearhead7896 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@davidroche9964 🤣😅🤣 Reminds me of tron legacy when they ask well what improvements have we made to OS12 and the CEO says we put a 12 on the box

    • @davidroche9964
      @davidroche9964 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gearhead7896 Yep, marketing 101 ! 🤨

  • @woody4u247
    @woody4u247 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Really nice to see more Internal combustion options for real world needs. especially working & commercial duty trucks.... Plus... being that it's using the traditional Diesel block.... which is designed for high cylinder pressures of diesel combustion/Turbo..... This would make this a Very Robust candidate for performance upgrades.... this might be a MONSTER if done right. looking forward to more details... Imagine a Ram 5500 with a Cummins Gas? sweet.

  • @ScooterDano
    @ScooterDano หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Wow I thought this was an April fools gag, but it's on their site. Ha.

  • @nathanm8921
    @nathanm8921 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    More Nathan, he is the best. I want to see him in every video

  • @normbittner3762
    @normbittner3762 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Very interesting and great new technology!

  • @MrMezita
    @MrMezita หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    They need to bring back the G56!

  • @1hasbeen531
    @1hasbeen531 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    This is old news. Interesting, but even with an alumimum head, the 6.7 bottom end is still extremely heavy.

    • @thecamdenyard
      @thecamdenyard หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And your point is???

    • @1hasbeen531
      @1hasbeen531 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@thecamdenyard For one thing, the Ram 2500 is already payload deficient, so unless they get rid of the 10K GVWR this will make it worse.

  • @Project-gr6zy
    @Project-gr6zy หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Ford could always dust off the schematics for the ford 300 and just improve the head and maybe add a turbo changing nothing with the bottom end and be bulletproof

  • @LPM84.
    @LPM84. หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    The M35A2 DUCE 1/2 engine was also one of the first multi-fuel platforms able to run on diesel, Kerosene, Marine Oil, And gasoline. Powered by an LDT 465 in-line 6 cylinder turbocharged multi-fuel engine.

    • @scotcoon1186
      @scotcoon1186 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yesterday was a multifuel engine.
      These will be limited to the fuel they were set up for.

  • @jamesallen7205
    @jamesallen7205 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    According to rumors in Auburn Hills, a second engine is planned for these trucks. It, too, would be an inline six-cylinder, but engineered specifically for truck engines. The new engine is rumored to be larger-3.7 liters-and to have a more traditional design, other than an odd 30° tilt. A source within Engineering told us that it was tilted over to make room for accessories on the side so that it could fit into smaller engine bays; and to provide space for a better air path, increasing its efficiency. ...

    • @danw1955
      @danw1955 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Oh, so they're going back to the leaning-tower-of-power, the 225 slant 6?🤣👍👍

    • @843MudMafia.
      @843MudMafia. หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Bad idea just use Cummins

    • @KevinJames-yg9eu
      @KevinJames-yg9eu หลายเดือนก่อน

      The reason for tilting any inline engine is to lower the hood line of the vehicle.

    • @scotcoon1186
      @scotcoon1186 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think I heard they were talking a hurricane with a little more displacement for the heavy duty pickups.
      It would make sense to offer the Cummins gas and cng engines alongside the diesel.

  • @carlosaleman1
    @carlosaleman1 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    I drive a 2014 school bus and it uses a natural gas Cummins

    • @jamesrussell6870
      @jamesrussell6870 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How's the power compared to diesel?

  • @truracer20
    @truracer20 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had a 250 straight six in a 74 C20 that I preferred over 305 V8's. Same thing with 300 straight six Ford's, I preferred the 300 inline six over 302 V8's in trucks. They don't lug as bad as more powerful V8's.
    There is a legitimate reason why the inline six is the preferred platform for industrial diesel engines.
    My 74 C10 was used to haul scrap metal here in hilly western Pennsylvania. It wasn't worth taking a load in if it was under 2,000 pounds and she kept up with traffic just fine even on hills. I had an 86 F250 with the 300 six that was a rack truck that spent its life overloaded with ladders and scaffolding. The same deal, she kept up with traffic without giving any thought to it. Both happened to be manual transmission equipped, the 74 C20 was a column shift 3 speed and the 86 F250 was a 4 speed.
    Both had great fuel economy and neither had overdrive. With OD I suspect either would rival the fuel economy of any modern 3 liter v6 powered SUV or truck.

  • @randyr4528
    @randyr4528 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Old School. Been doing it since 1981. In a BIG Truck. And in the Oil Field For Many many Years.
    We Ran on Propane over the Road. The B 5.9 in the Oil Field on Nature Gas. 220 Cummins on propane was the first one we did then a 270. Ford HIE off a Volkswagen distb. Gear 10.5 comp. Imco carb. It’s about time they bring it to market.

  • @brandonairey4040
    @brandonairey4040 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I thought we were expecting a derivative of the Godzilla Ford 7.3 or 6.8 with twin turbos to work in this class but with regular petrol. It sure would be cool to see these options in the Heavy Duty space.

  • @billmalec
    @billmalec หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    My '08 Jayco RV on the E450 chassis has a Cummins gas engine in it.
    It's the generator, but... 😉🤣

    • @scotcoon1186
      @scotcoon1186 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cummins bought out Onan a while back.

    • @billmalec
      @billmalec หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@scotcoon1186 that was the Idea

  • @MattChat56
    @MattChat56 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    325hp and 660lb-ft torque is incredible. Those are 05-07 diesel engine numbers and those trucks tended to pull heavy loads just fine.

  • @dougzzzie738
    @dougzzzie738 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I imagine that Ram will probably offer the Hurricane I6 as a base engine with the upgrade to the 6.7 Cummins gasser or diesel. The diesel will probably remain as the highest priced and highest performing engine while the gasser 6.7 will be a mid tier offering. I think the gas powered Cummins will be cheaper because it doesn't require the emissions systems the diesel does, and diesel fuel injection is more complex versus gasoline fuel injection, even in direct injection applications.

  • @zacharygoeden1282
    @zacharygoeden1282 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very smart idea

  • @stanr3491
    @stanr3491 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I’d love to see this power train open the door for some gasoline powered Super C RV’s. Something that can tow better than the Godzilla but not break the bank like a Diesel.

  • @vlsgmc
    @vlsgmc หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The reason it says no after treatment or DEF is because it is the screen highlighting the gas version.

  • @jhoncho4x4
    @jhoncho4x4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I saw one of the natural gas semi trucks on Texas Interstate operated by UPS a couple of weeks ago.

    • @hellohumans175
      @hellohumans175 หลายเดือนก่อน

      they are using them for very long time now

  • @osagejon8972
    @osagejon8972 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The model T used a multi fuel engine. A look back on big truck engines I have a 1948 Brockway with a Continental R6572 gas engine (inline 6 572 CID) Continental built the RD6572 which was the diesel version just a different head.

  • @jeffbateman5852
    @jeffbateman5852 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have a 2019 Ram 2500 with 6.7 Cummins and would make the move in 2025 to a 6.7 Cummins gas if it came out. I think it will happen just unsure of timeline. Time will tell! Thanks👍

  • @cfyves
    @cfyves หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice.... I could see the possibility of the 1 block for 3 different engines (if you can call it that) would make manufacturing more effective both in process and in cost. Great concept

  • @jjames5928
    @jjames5928 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cummins has been working on a CNG/Hydrogen version of the X15 for along time. They already have a Head conversion for the X15 and ISB 6.7

  • @danthompson1467
    @danthompson1467 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Bring it on now

  • @MisterMikeTexas
    @MisterMikeTexas หลายเดือนก่อน

    The cowboy hat looks good on Andre. As for Nathan's cap: Taxi! 🚕😁

  • @Tom-eu2jj
    @Tom-eu2jj หลายเดือนก่อน

    The computer's prompt "You're a manager'? 😂

  • @marcosherrera7635
    @marcosherrera7635 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    In my line of business, we run the ISX15 natural gas engine, which is the same as their diesel engine, but the head just has spart plugs, and everything else is almost the same.

  • @dmegahan
    @dmegahan หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I thought this was announced that they were working on this a couple years ago. In fact I think I heard the news from TFL

  • @williamdubyaog1334
    @williamdubyaog1334 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    YES ! I am all for a gas 6.7L as long as they can keep the EGR off of the motor ! Also having it available as a crate motor option for hot rod builds 👏🏻

  • @thomasniederberger2950
    @thomasniederberger2950 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Was waiting for something like this a long time! Nice to see some major changes and trying to get away from the DEF crap somehow.

  • @freddyhollingsworth5945
    @freddyhollingsworth5945 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We have a few school busses with Cummins V8 CNG/Propane..they have done very good...

  • @dougpendleton1266
    @dougpendleton1266 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This approach makes sense in a number of ways, I do expect Ram to offer this relatively soon!

  • @jameseroh6544
    @jameseroh6544 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    My wife love her Ram 2500 4wd with that beastly 6.7L. As long as the gas engine has a VGT turbo, it will be accepted. The ZF 8-speed powerline transmission should be a plus. The Jeep JLU performs better than the JKU because of the extra lower gears with the 8-speed transmission.

    • @hellohumans175
      @hellohumans175 หลายเดือนก่อน

      why VGT turbo on a gasoline engine ? why not regular waste gated turbo ?

    • @jameseroh6544
      @jameseroh6544 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @hellohumans175 - The VGT have 3 benefits, 1st is a faster response at lower rims, 2nd is enhanced engine braking, and 3rd is less energy and fuel wasted.

  • @iceman45ification1
    @iceman45ification1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I remember when I was younger, all the UPS step vans used the Ford 300 inline 6. Makes sense to bring back that engine architecture. Less moving parts, better reliability, and since it's gasoline powered, there's more available fueling for it.

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Inline engines do seem to be making a comeback, though obviously with turbochargers since people expect a modern level of power and torque.

  • @patrickhill6691
    @patrickhill6691 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This would be the only reason I would look at a Ram 2500. I was all in on another brand and there gas engine. I will wait and see where this goes. Straight 6's have been around a very long time and proven how good they are.

  • @MattChat56
    @MattChat56 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    You put the gas version in a 2500 and you would convert my fleet from GM to Ram overnight. That 6.7 Cummins gasser with a ZF 8 speed IS A PERFECT recipe.

  • @Denis-tu1pd
    @Denis-tu1pd หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In the 70s when I was in the air force Cummins already had multi fuel engines. So now there doing it in the electronic Era.

  • @slmjake
    @slmjake หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    HAPPY EASTER! Glad you put videos out on Mondays so i can focus on CHURCH and FAMILY on Sundays.

  • @CentralMississippiWhitetail
    @CentralMississippiWhitetail หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    i love big trucks, i cannot lie lol

  • @roadsplorer
    @roadsplorer หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    This engine would be crazy expensive for a gas engine compared to the hurricane. I can see this as a replacement for the diesel but will someone pay 10k for an upgraded gas engine.

    • @mddunlap03
      @mddunlap03 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why? The hurricane is a from scratch engine. New tooling new block new everything this is a 6.7 with a aluminum head and cast pistons. Hurricane will shit the crank out the block of it had to make 650+ftlbs at 2k rpm

    • @DJ-ve5lr
      @DJ-ve5lr หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      If not diesel, but same engine it would be interesting to see the price diff. I wonder how much of that 10k premium is caused by fines and diesel regs.

    • @andyharman3022
      @andyharman3022 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      If they can keep the cost of the gasoline engine option to $4000 over base, I think it will sell well. The diesel option costs ~$10,000. The gas engine should be cheaper due to no DPF or SCR systems, and the fuel system will be cheaper as well.

    • @Lloyd973
      @Lloyd973 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      This engine would not, in my opinion, be an option for large hd trucks. It’s fit would be better in the medium duty truck market, say in the freightliner M 200 series or any of the large box delivery vans. The natural gas option for these trucks would be a better fit. Hydrogen gas is a pipe dream for anything not mounted to a stationary platform. Just not enough heat energy in the gas to make it truly viable for anything else. Natural gas options have been around for years. They burn cleaner than gas and have fewer emissions problems and a very good maintenance cost per mile over the diesel. I don’t look to see this in any Ram pickups. Just don’t think there would be enough cost difference to make Ram dump their newly designed six cylinder engine.

    • @wtbman
      @wtbman หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@DJ-ve5lr I would think a huge part of the $9k+ Ram charges for the Cummins is due to the SCR/DPF systems. That's like $6k to replace. The 6.4 Hemi to 6.7 gas Cummins would be more like $2-4k I would think.

  • @donaldriggs3097
    @donaldriggs3097 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i am very interested in such an engine. Please continue research.

  • @kens8903
    @kens8903 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Would be crazy for the racing scene. Could run some wild boost numbers with e85+/race fuel

  • @maxchristenson5602
    @maxchristenson5602 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cummins has been using natural gas 5.9L engines in generators for a while now. There is even natural gas DD series 60s in generators too.

  • @danielgriffith7694
    @danielgriffith7694 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Come to Rocky Mount, North Carolina and see them put together NOW 👍 4/10/24

    • @HarlemsFinest2133
      @HarlemsFinest2133 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m looking at them everyday 👍🏾👍🏾

  • @N54God666
    @N54God666 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I've had 12 BMWs built and tuned like a diesel but with gas e85 fuel. low 4500rpm, small turbo, same afr as a diesel would. works fantastic. cheap corn fuel but 30mpg in a 6000lb x5 that tows with zero issues and makes diesel low end torque an new normal diesel top end. I'm really surprised it's taken this long for anyone to do

    • @donvoll2580
      @donvoll2580 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Good day N54 Do u live in North america? Bmw are english! Thanks

    • @N54God666
      @N54God666 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@donvoll2580 BMW is European

  • @cherylweber1246
    @cherylweber1246 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There are transit busses running CNG manufactured by Nova Bus. They are Cummins manufactured diesel based power plants. Very emissions clean, ISL 8.9 L .

  • @robertjanowski710
    @robertjanowski710 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Chevy did this in the late 70’s and early 80’s. They took an Oldsmobile v8. They took the olds 350 changed pistons and put on diesel heads and intake. My dad had one in an 81 caprice. When it finally gave out. We swapped the heads out for gas heads and 2 barrel intake and ran the heck out of it for several years.

  • @bayonne
    @bayonne หลายเดือนก่อน

    What I really want to know is if I could swap out the 68rfe for the new ZF 8 speed in my 2017 Ram Cummins....??

  • @abcdefg9010
    @abcdefg9010 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Make it happen !!💯💯

  • @theaceofnothin
    @theaceofnothin หลายเดือนก่อน

    They do have parts in common, but Stellantis has a deal with Cummins to have a separate motor for the Rams. The B6.7 Diesel is found in the Freightliner M2-106 and International Medium duty and ICCEs so it will most likely be in thosr

  • @cesarcalzadias778
    @cesarcalzadias778 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Ram should have an option to bolt on an Eaton Fuller manual transmission to the Cummins engine

    • @wyo_garage20
      @wyo_garage20 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No they shouldn’t

    • @markdubois4882
      @markdubois4882 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'd jump all over that if a manual transmission is offered.

    • @VHP7044
      @VHP7044 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why not

    • @wyo_garage20
      @wyo_garage20 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@VHP7044 Why would they? It’s pointless. Useless. Never gonna happen

    • @scotcoon1186
      @scotcoon1186 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They have to cut power when the automatic shifts, then ease it back in.
      The dealers would have a steady stream of rear ends to warranty with a manual.

  • @HAHA.GoodMeme
    @HAHA.GoodMeme หลายเดือนก่อน

    looks amazing. Slap some turbos on it

  • @jeffthornock8671
    @jeffthornock8671 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Brings back nightmares from the days when GM and others tried converting gas engines to diesel engines! We don’t ever want to go back to those days!!

    • @mjolnirev7890
      @mjolnirev7890 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      There is a big difference between going from gas to diesel or diesel to gas, diesel engine blocks and parts are way stronger, this gas Cummins may be just as tough or tougher then the old ford inline 6 .

    • @jamesrussell6870
      @jamesrussell6870 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Much tougher!

  • @user-ie6yd7pr8o
    @user-ie6yd7pr8o หลายเดือนก่อน

    Makes sense, but will it work in the current power wagon?

  • @JBansal
    @JBansal 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's something they've been doing already for years. It's expanding to more fuels now, but the diesel and CNG versions of their mid range road going stuff has been sharing a block for years, among other components. I'm interested to see how many other components the new versions share across platforms.
    The natural gas versions in the bus fleet locally seem to be the most cost efficient, and least maintenance intensive option. With minimal aftertreatment required, they are very simple. But, they run HOT. There was/is a massive recall for the early models that melted the pistons since they ran significantly lighter than the diesel. Turbos are vacuum controlled wastegate systems as opposed to VGTs. I personally don't like the lack of power, but they work well overall.

  • @cannonfodder4812
    @cannonfodder4812 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How hard would it be to build a sleeved aluminum block with the same pattern?

  • @briantoner5247
    @briantoner5247 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very possibly!!! Great news!!!

  • @philmckanna5173
    @philmckanna5173 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a ram 2500 6.4 and would welcome the 6.7 gas but is the $$ worth it? Yes if I end up with the dreaded lifter failure.

  • @GrizzlyDude
    @GrizzlyDude 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think it would be a genius move and a very cost effective way to have multiple engine options for Ram. The manufacturing cost would be streamlined like crazy

  • @allenfischer5878
    @allenfischer5878 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Does it chuff smoke like thier diesels, thats so cool!

  • @dukec4
    @dukec4 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’d love it!

  • @jackylsmith8138
    @jackylsmith8138 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    That 5.0L Cummins V-8 was super reliable. As a boat anchor. Hopefully this is better.

  • @Rockhead75
    @Rockhead75 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seems like a great idea keeping a lot the same would definitely keep costs down

  • @staciecarverd8136
    @staciecarverd8136 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Heck yeah, I'd be interested in such an inline six for the Ram HD. What other reasonable alternatives are there? I don't think I'd trust the new Hurricane six for such duty, and if it's based off of the Cummins 6.7 diesel block, it should be more than stout enough for HD pickup and fleet duty too. This could easily grab Ram some market share!

  • @mikebrownell8121
    @mikebrownell8121 หลายเดือนก่อน

    there is at least one ram with a 6.7 gas cummins, there is a video on youtube that is at a cummins event and there is a 2018 Ram with the engine as well as some 3 and 5ton trucks.

  • @user-iy6de7qi1r
    @user-iy6de7qi1r หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've got an F-350 dualie with a diesel, it runs great but it's not a Cummins. I bought it just because it was pre-DEF. I'm just learning what that is, used to work on newspaper trucks back in the eighties, wish I'd realized then what they were going to do now.

  • @DJ-ve5lr
    @DJ-ve5lr หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It would be interesting to see how much of a gov fine there is for building diesels when they also offer same engine but gas for $10k less? Or somewhere in between.

  • @truracer20
    @truracer20 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would jump at the opportunity to get that 6.7l gasoline engine.

  • @kkalauli23
    @kkalauli23 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That things definitely getting put into a car and truck soon as people get there hands on em

  • @bsd7342
    @bsd7342 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It will be nice to have a cummins that can be idled without the anxiety of wet stacking slowly leading to lifter failure. Let's just hope it doesn't have some hilarious oversight like the grid heater bolt coming loose and grenading the engine.

  • @highrx
    @highrx หลายเดือนก่อน

    But what will it sound like with a inline zoomie and a 671 blower?

  • @wisco1225
    @wisco1225 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Would it still be turbo ?

  • @patrickmoran8790
    @patrickmoran8790 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you know anything about older military trucks, White Motor Company built the multifuel engines for the M35A1 trucks. Instead of complex electronics, the injection pump system measured the viscosity of the fuel to cause the distributor injection pump to deliver the proper amounts to individual mechanical fuel injectors. This is a more complex way to do some of the same things using a common rail fuel system, or did they go back to individual fuel injector pressure lines from the high pressure pump source? Cummins has already tried extremely high pressure common rail fuel feed to the injectors. Any screamer Detroit 2 stroke is a common rail fuel source engine, any 855 Cummins and brethren. A new version of old with new engineer trying and money.

  • @revgordon91
    @revgordon91 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video guys! Unfortunately, with Stalantis being an Itaian company, I honestly don't see the Ram HDs lasting much longer. They don't care that much about the American market, and the truck doesn't sell as well as the the other two. This is the start of the downhill of Ram.

  • @michaelneuhaus4432
    @michaelneuhaus4432 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ram talked with Cummins about making a 6.7 liter gas engine years ago

  • @Muffins77
    @Muffins77 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When I started working in the oil fields, I was surprised to find out that Cummins made a massive natural gas engine to power the gas compressors.