HOW TO: Spark Plugs & Stick Coils on Versys 650
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 มี.ค. 2015
- I take apart my beloved new Kawasaki Versys 650 so that I can access and replace the spark plugs and stick coils.
The question is, will it fix that annoying low-rev hesitancy that plagues most of the modern Fuel injected motorbikes? Tune in to find out!!
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I have a NC700S and after having seen this video I'll never ever going to call my bike a hard to maintain bike.......
Great video, highly enjoyable !!
Haha! Good old Honda! I was stunned when i discovered i had to basically dismantle the whole bike to get to the spark plugs! I'll have to get a Moto Guzzi so they're out in the breeze next time!
Good man Andy. Got a Euro trip scheduled for June and need to service up my Mk2 including plug change. I'm sure its much the same.
Always enjoy your videos!
Thank you for the video. Really helpful in combination with the manual. The airbox was the trickiest part of the repair.
+vasilemaier Thanks! It is a fiddly bugger to get into. I try to group all my servicing together to sane the faff!
Thanks so much for making these vids. Just swapped plugs n kept the old ones as spares 😀
+Josey November My pleasure! Happy to have helped!
i thanked you on the forum now on youtube. i couldn't have done it without the vid. thanks again...
Ha! I was just reading that as the TH-cam notification came in! Cheers mate, glad you found it useful. What a faff though eh?! Might have to get a winch setup in the garage for next time. Just hoist the tank up and get on with it! ! Thanks again!
I do all work on my V, and this ratchet hex key looks phenomenal. Game changer! Thanks for the great video, you're a funny dude.
sonofnothing Thanks mate! That little tool is great! Only £7 spent as well!
Thanks for this video , it’s been a great help 👍 i’ve done my air filter and spark plugs on my Versys today with no hick ups taking into account i’ve never had any dealings with the motorbikes before!
Will be watching what’s nest on your “menu” for the Versys . Lol
Glad it helped! Thanks for watching. Sadly the menu for the Versys is a bit dry, as I sold it almost 2 years ago. 😳
Love your hands on videos sir, wonderful stuff! :)
Cheers Daniel! Really appreciated!
Your video was very useful to me changing my plugs. Bike runs smooth again now :)
+Screaminfox happy to help mate!
I am left handed - but not only are you eloquent and a vlog hero, you are one hell of a craftsman ! Bogroll in the intakes while you work ! Could have been a nut,bolt etc........ Brilliant tuto. I particularly liked how many times you said 'vitaly'......
Thanks be to you Vitaly! You're so right about the intakes. Would have made the job less stressful than just worrying about things getting in there! Still, would have meant an extra video "How to dismantle Versys Throttle Bodies"...
I bought a set of long allen keys that fit the ratchet wrench, invaluable for motorcycle service.
The end of the allen key can be temporarily magnetized to prevent screw droppage.
Great 650, great video, to the point!
Hey Andy you are the man of many talents I really enjoyed that I have to say I'm not brave enough to try and work on my bike not that mechanically minded and you explain it so we'll keep up the good work love from your friend ride safe buddy
Today I did a spark plug and air filter change. Just wanted to say thank you for making this video. It helped me a lot while I was working on the Versys. Unfortunately the right stick coil was cracked and I did not have a new one to replace it with which means I have to do the whole process again when I get the new stick coil. Hopefully it will take me less time next time.
I'm very happy to have helped! Sorry to hear about the Stick coil, hope it goes to plan!
I'd recommend a smudge of dialectic grease in the end of the coil that goes over the plug. I do the same thing for my boat spark plugs to aid in water proofing. Also, you can use the old coil to remove the spark plug after you have loosened it. I prefer that over a magnet.
Top tips. Thanks very much Fred. 👍🏻
Thanks Mr Man, watched this a fare few times, just scanned through again to remind me how to get the air box off to do the plugs lol
Brilliant! I’m glad that the oldies are still proving useful!
Thanks for the video mate. I would've been lost at the coils if it weren't for your vid.
+highfiveforawesome My pleasure mate, glad to help. Thanks for stopping to say hi!
Thanks Andy, very useful!
My pleasure! Thanks for watching!
Watching this video reminded me of working on my old CBR600F... Faffing around with fairings
Getting a supermoto to match my tack bike
The Versys does have an alarming amount of plastic for something that's supposed to be a 'Dual Sport' bike! That's the one thing choppers have going for them i suppose, you can just reach in and do everything, without even taking your jacket or gloves off!
Thanks for the video Andy, just replaced the spark plugs and air filter in my 2012 this morrning ;)
+Rockappalla My pleasure! Thanks for watching! I hope she's running a bit smoother for you now!
+Andy Man Cam yup! Running supersmooth now!
+Rockappalla Excellent news!!
like a boss !! your certainly getting to know your new steed,
Cheers Andy! I always like to get up to my elbows in a bike before I REALLY trust it out on the road!! :D
very useful video indeed ,thanks
+A Lorenz Thanks! Glad it helped!
Excellent. Well filmed and explained. Simply put. Nice. BTW in case you haven't seen it, Moonfleet41 (Del) has a bit about repairing broken plastic penii (?) using a simple bit of plastic welding on his channel. I wish manufacturers would abandon them as a concept because they are crap but as long as they can get away with charging a bloody fortune for a side panel that is a bit of plastic moulding it costs them pennies to produce (I used to do commercial plastic moulding), they will keep building in weak spots.
I agree. Though in this case, the panels stay on fine without the penii so they could have saved more by not bothering at all! Unless that's where the annoying buzzing is coming from?....
I'm a big fan of Moonfleet41 channel too. Ever since I found the sneaky B&Q Renthal bar end cheat!
OK, I changed my plugs and cleaned the air filter of my Versys yesterday. But it was not nearly as much fun as Andy would have us believe. ;-)
Oh no! You're the first to call me out on this! How much is it going to cost for this comment thread to 'go away'?...
Bloody hell what an almighty faff! I never expected you to have to remove the tank to change spark plugs :O
Ooooooh yes! So keep hold of that Fazed mate! Spark change in situ is a thing of the past for me now!
If you think that's bad, look at how much crap you have to do to get at the ECU, throttle bodies, and other stuff on the Diavel. I don't get why manufacturers insist on putting so much extra crap all over our motorcycles so it takes 20+ steps just to do regular maintenance items. My Speed Triple is dead simple by comparison. Remove seat, unbolt and remove tank, unbolt/remove airbox. Now you see everything.
Robert Lee I reckon they do it for 3 reasons. 1 that if it's tough for us to get at these parts, they're also protected from weather and damage 2. You'll be more inclined to take your bike to the dealer for servicing and 3. When you do, they can charge you through the arse for the 18hrs of labour that the job will require! !
That sounds about right!
Hey man excellent video! Thank you for showing me all that I need to do to replace both spark plugs and air filter! I was wondering though, did this service help with the hesitation you claimed between 2nd and 3rd gear while riding?
Thanks CFS! Happy to help. Overall it certainly did help a bit. Hard to say if One thing did it, or a combination of all. The biggest help was the Boosterplug though.
@@AndyManCam tysm!! I am actually using this Bike for my Motovlog series and this will definitely help me out with some much needed maintenance! Have a Blessed day 😉
My pleasure! Happy tinkering mate!
This was not a fun job to do. The screws on the front of the airbox are in such a bad spot. But your video did definitely help.
Im glad i did it though. My foam air filter was stolen by mice.
You’re so right! Glad i might have helped a little bit!
I don't own a Versys but I found that vid enjoyable and informative RSM8
Cheers Kev!
Good job. I probably would have had nuts and bolts left over and wondered where in the heck they were suppose to be.
HAHA! We've all been there my friend! I swear by those little magnetic trays now though! Plus if it was really bad, I could have watched the video back for a re-cap! ;D
Enjoyed your video mate. Its a real pain to do on the er6f. EVERYTHING needs to come off hehe!
Aslo. Where is the ecu on the Versys? The er6f is mounted on top of the air box cover. Big bugger too. Just ordered the Versys Swing arm kit.for the er6f. Its super sexy.
+Craig Elliott Thanks craig. It's a proper faff, isn't it! Thankfully these engines are solid and don't need too much fettling!
+Craig Elliott I'm embarrassed to say i don't know! Er6's look awesome with V swingarms! Enjoy the attention!
Merry x-mas bro :)
Thanks! Hope you had a good one mate!
I like your how too vids Andy man... bit disapointed you didnt loose anything. It all whent smooth. Still entertaining though. Well done you.
Cheers
Oh Ho ho! There's a little treat in each of the separate versys servicing videos! I don't think you'll be disappointed! ! ;)
Thanks for this, the heart of this bike is the same as the ER6F/N so things like plugs and power are very similar if not the same. so this is very helpful. Thanks, What size was the S-Plug socket you used? my manual says 16mm, but that sounds huge?
+Runawaygeek My pleasure! Thanks for watching! 16 sounds like it could be about right. Can't be sure off the top of my head though. Sorry. Maybe have a 14mm handy just in case! I have a deep drive socket set which has paid for itself over and over with stuff like this.
Good job! It sucks having to remove all of the Tupperware in order to do basic things, but yeah, even on my CTX the tank has to come off to replace the air filter...
Seems to be the way newer bikes all are! Annoying. But in between they do look nice! !
After looking at new stick coil prices ($300 a pair) I'd be going with "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", good video though
+Chris Harris Ebay is your friend! Mine cost about €15 each! They didn't need to be new, just newer than the outdated older model in there from the factory.
What year is your versys? I have a 2012 versys 650 and I'm planing on to the plugs soon. Is there any other maintenance you feel should be done while torn that far into it?
Mine's a 2006. While you're that far you may as well clean or change the air filter. If you've got the tools, balancing the throttle bodies could be worthwhile too.
hi mate
thanks so much for this! very clear video
Just went to replace the spark plugs on my 09 ER6. One of the stick coils was stuck, had to soak in WD and slowly came out. The plastic casing had split and it was full of corrosion...
I ordered some mitsubishi stick coils apparently they are better than the denso ones that kawi use.
BTW where did u get that magnetic telescopic bit thingy???
need to get one!
thanks
+Dimitris Blane My pleasure mate! Glad it helped. Good work getting your nasty coils out! I got the magnet thing from the pound section at the end of an aisle in tesco! Endlessly useful!
cool mate got one of these magnet sticks from ebay!
Quick question....I got some mitsubishi coils from ebay, the seller says they are compatible with Er6 2006-2015.
Just received them and even though the primary coils are inside the range in the manual 1.4-1.5 ohm the secondary coils are outside the range. One of them measures 9.4Kohm the other one 9.7Kohm.
So first of all the two coils have different resistance, and also they are outside the range (Secondary Windings: 10.8 ∼ 16.2 kΩ)..
Any idea if they will work as a replacement???
thanks!
+Dimitris Blane No idea I'm afraid. We're well outside my knowledge comfort zone here!
haha no worries m8!
me too!
Gee whizz, top skills. You made it look very easy. I'm only at 15,000 on the V-Strom and I am fearful of such a task especially as you rightly say is trickier than a Pfaff in Pfaffenhofen.
Thanks EB! I don't envy you the task of getting to that rearward plug! Though I'm sure you're good for a fair few thousand more right? Hopefully my hands will be as deft when I check the valve clearances soon...
Andy Man Cam Looking forward to the "alfresco" valve check.. followed by a cornucopia of profanity when all 8 shims need to be changed in fading light and worsening weather.
Fortunately the little blighters don't need to be changed too often so major faffage can often be averted.
Christian Weller I'll admit, I'm a little afraid of the task! Luckily I currently have a garage, so hopefully the cursing will be reduced at least slightly!! I am, however, procrastinating to the highest level to avoid it as long as possible! But at 62000km, and not knowing when they were last checked, it really HAS to be done!
Andy Man Cam I've been through it several times. Good lighting, no hangover, start early, have a friend who can drive you to the Kawasaki dealer for shims (so you don't have to reassemble the bike) get a plastic box with 8 compartments for all shims and buckets, small rubber sucker for bucket removal, Haynes manual at the ready etc. Also first time make a note of size of all the shims then second time they can often be swapped around or you can calculate the size required without removal of the cams. Oh yeah and make sure the Kawasaki dealer has a full set of shims to readily part with. Good luck.
Christian Weller All top tips. I'll be sure to have all of them covered, thanks! Thankfully I have a garage now too! :D
Ive done this job before As you know a good tip is to put a cloth in both intakes and use a bit of hose pipe to put plugs back in as not to cross thread. ive had my 09 kle for some time BUT DOES ANY ONE KNOW IF HAYNES MADE A MANUAL?
They're both great tips! I don't think Haynes bothered. But if you have a trawl on www.versys.co.uk there is a download of the kawasaki service manual somewhere.
Good job! Haven't seen any similar videos. Wonder if the 2015 Versys 650 is the same.
SouthernMan As far as I know, it' the same engine just with different frilly bits strapped on to make it look fresher. Like Tina Turner.
hahaha, that's a good one!
How long took you the all job? What is the ref. For those spark plugs because in the ngk website only will appear the normal iridium.
To do the full service took about 2 hours I think. But most of that was taking off the fairings and the tank. I think to do the plugs alone, you should probably only need about an hour the first time, maybe 45 minutes the second! Sorry, no idea on the plugs. Though the ones I used ARE Iridium plugs.
Anyone else doing this, use your factory tool kit spark plug wrench with the joint. It is perfectly sized for ngk plugs and pulls them out w/o magnets and also is the perfect length to use with the tool kit wrench to torque.
That also works! Top tip!
Andy WTF man, far out mate. how long did it take you to disassemble and reassemble as compared to the actual fix. Holy shit. Not that I mind, from my perspective sitting here with a German Beer in hand :D
Another excellent video mate
Thanks Nick! I think all in it took 2-3 hours as I did the air filter and a throttle body mod at the same time. Would have really liked to balance the throttles too but no carbtune to hand! I really fancy a Weizen now! ! :D
Hi, I have a 2013 Verysys 650 with 14k miles on it? Should I change the spark plugs? When should they be changed?
I’m not sure. What does the manual say?
I know this is an old video but what is the back mount you have for luggage?
No problem at all! That's an SW-Motech Alu-Rack. GREAT bit of kit. VERY sturdy!
@@AndyManCam awesome, thanks. Also what case did you use? Do you still have the bike?
Is it worth putting links on the videos to skip the repeated sections?
Useful video, gives me the confidence to get into my Mistress' air box.
Its a very solid idea. I considered it but decided that it would also mean bombarding folks with "click here for..." messages that would then only work for desktop viewing. So instead I tried as much as possible to add a few little differences and extras in each video. The DVD will be very differently laid out! ;))
Will the DVD also have hidden sections for us to find? You know, like your secret stash to match your 80's porn star 'tache?
The Swiss Motard Good god yes! The blu ray will have sing-alongs, interactive games, sex tapes, blooper reels, screen savers and MORE!
Cada cuanto tiempo?
well i did the same thing with oil change and filter clean up and my f1 light came on i did change the spark plugs not the coils tho would that be the problem?
+Sergio barrios Sorry to say i don't know. Did you maybe not reconnect the air temp sensor on the airbox properly? That's all i can suggest. A sensor somewhere is not properly seated.
Andy Man Cam yeah i did that i guess the tank does have a breathing hose right? but yeah i connected everything right went back like 3 times and cant see anything i might of done wrong
That's annoying. Have a look on Versys.co.uk and kawasakiversys.com. Maybe ask on the forum for some help. Lots of very helpful folks in both forums. Good luck!
Did you ever find out what made the light come on? I had the same problem. Thinking it's because I didn't disconnect the battery...
Did you gap your spark plugs?
They're not necessarily gaped out of the box...
Nope! But I think that Kawasaki specced them for use as they come. In any case, they worked great!
That may be the case.
Still, that's good practice to check ("Trust but verify")
Anyhow, pretty entertaining channel, thanks!
You’re absolutely right. In this age of quick and cheap manufacturing, it’s better to check and be sure.
Kawasaki es bueno y facil
I hope you set the spark plug gaps! ;-)
Allegedly, they are pre-gapped and the electrodes are so tiny small and delicate on the iridium plugs that you're not supposed to even touch them with your thoughts!
Why did you replace them? Did the old ones breke or something? I get the changing of spark plugs but why replacing the stick coils??
It was just eliminating another potential contributor to the lumpy running. Also the older version is prone to cracked rubber and getting seized into the head. So more preventative thank reparative.
like and sub from me HAVE YOU HAD ANY PROBS WITH THE EXHAUST SPLITTING AT THE JOIN TO THE BOX?
me? nope
I have seen shrink tube many times on cars, like Subaru's, Skylines (Wife is a mechanic) but never on a bike
what's the benefit? Is it simply to tighten the fit? if so, it wasn't working in this case! !
Andy Man Cam no, lol it seems, I should my wife the video and her thoughts are that they serve no benefit. she said and I quote " there seems to be no logical reason for that snot tunnel" lol
Nick Massey HA! Weird addition then! Lucky I left it out on the replacements.
Gee same as a air filter change. Might be a good thing to do both at the same time.
Hello actually recently my versys 650s 2017 model stick coil got burnt which i noticed after i got a bad burnt smell and engine light on . Also i was experiencing loss of power . I took it to the service centre and they replaced it. I asked them the reason for this malfunction. They could not tell me why. Does anyone have any idea what could have caused this issue? And do i need to look into other parts in the versys to ascertain whether this issue was caused by some other faulty stuff in the bike
I’m afraid i have no idea. Maybe it was just a dodgy coil. When they perish, water gets in and they Short out. Could lead to electrical burns.
@@AndyManCam hmm maybe water got in when i washed thr bike. Can it be one of the reasons?
Could be, although with a good coil, that shouldn’t cause a problem. It’s only when the rubber degrades that you get short circuits.
Could u give me any links from where i can purchase good stick coil foe versys 650
I just found one on eBay. The Z1000 has the same coils.
Thanks for this. It made the job much, much easier although I found myself muttering "plastic penises" at various points. 👍
It happens to us all at some point or another!!
do you notice a difference Andy after the service?
You're so impatient! I love it! There's a quick test video on the way or if you can't wait, a little link at the end of this video! :D
Andy Man Cam ah crap lol thats embarrassing lol
Nick Massey Haha! DOn't worry mate, you're not the first! I readily accept that most leave a video before the end. These links are just a little incentive to stick around!! :D
Andy Man Cam 99% of the time I do watch to the end, at the very least as a sign of respect as I know how much time goes into these
Nick Massey And that is much appreciated :D The fact that anyone willfully sits through my blathering is awesome. But to ensure it till the end is a real bonus! !
did it fix the hesitation a 3000 rpm???
I think it softened it a tiny bit but the real fix was the booster plug. I guess a Powercommander or an ECU reflash would also do the job, but for far more cash.
thanks just traded my 125 for the versys and its got no maintenance book.
No worries. Also check out www.versys.co.uk and www.kawasakiversys.com They've got some great tips and very knowledgeable folks in there!
Thanks Andy.
For the german speaking folks it´s the friendly www.versysforum.de I´ll recommend heartily!
We´ll be celebrating 10th anniversary next year and it´s still a nice community, way to meet friendly people.
Twingreetz!
Thats put me of buying this bike now its mad you got to do all this just to change your spark plugs
El tiempo real del video?
If you put it in to a shop in England they charge you £100 an hour just to change the spark plugs bloody mad
Die electric grease on the coil sticks market them not so sticky
Good to know. cheers!
Takes me about a minute to remove the plugs on my Jawa 350.
But how long does it take you to get to 70 mph! 😜
@@AndyManCam using a calendar is dangerous on a bike.
Hahahaaa! Genius response mate! 😆
My 5350 also cracked
This bike is basically the same as ninja 650r
Absolutely. And original ER6, just with slight frame differences.
You didn’t even put grease on the plug when putting it back in...
That’s what she said.
How you managed to complete the job without hurtling tools and parts across the lawn while abusing every curse word known to man, is simply astonishing to me. And who knew that motorcycles have penis and vagina parts...fascinating. Gran always said to learn something new everyday...there you go...
Red Shoes Moment Happy to have enlightened you! :D
The calmness I can only attribute to hours of zen-like meditation in the hours leading up to the task! That and maybe a little bit of 'anger-cutting' in the editing stages!!
I see I’m gonna be spending a lot of money on Maintenance because I’m not gonna be able to do the stuff
Ah, you say that now. Sometimes you need to give it a crack and surprise yourself. Sometimes however, you also need to know your limits and avoid making a maintenance job into a far more expensive repair job! 😜
@@AndyManCam lol
Well! I was thinking of buying one of these....what a load of bollocks just to get to your plugs!!! 😱😱😱 No way Hosey! 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻
It is a faff, but luckily with these iridium plugs you don't have to do it too often!!
Didn't check the spark plug gaps? Trusting fellow...improper gaps can cause backfires and other crappy performance.
Or did I check them only to find that they were exactly correct?...
Just reading again and find many grammar mistakes 😒 sorry!
holt crap, thats alot of work for an old fart. shop times is what $75 an hour?
True, but at the time i was earning less than 75€ a day so three hours of faff was equal to 3 days of terrible work!! 🤑