$1000 Track Bike Showdown! 2009 Kawasaki Versys 650 vs. 2015 Honda CBR300R | Common Tread XP
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- $1000 Track Bike Showdown! 2009 Kawasaki Versys 650 vs. 2015 Honda CBR300R | Common Tread XP
See more pictures and read the article here: rvz.la/31J0wZG
What’s it like to take the cheapest, fully functioning bike you can find to a track day? Zack and Ari wanted to find out, so they lowered their Craigslist price limit to $1000 and ended up with a battered 2009 Kawasaki Versys 650 and a 2015 Honda CBR250R with a deep, disturbing secret. It’s scuffed knee pucks or bust! Or maybe both?
Ari’s track gear:
Bell Race Star Flex DLX Helmet: rvz.la/2QSLw9c
REV'IT! Hyperspeed Race Suit: rvz.la/3umfJfx
REV'IT! Jerez 3 Gloves: rvz.la/39yXBXG
TCX RT-Race Boots: rvz.la/39DrKoS
Zack’s track gear:
Shoei RF-1400 Prologue Helmet: rvz.la/2Pyb9vH
Sedici Corsa One-Piece Race Suit: rvz.la/3mdO6Cm
Sedici Corsa Gloves: rvz.la/3sMDa14
Sedici Corsa Vented Boots: rvz.la/3wg8wPI
Zack and Ari's tires:
Dunlop GPR300 tires: rvz.la/3sPXvm7
See more pictures and read the article here: rvz.la/3mjJniv
Hi guys! As always, watching you folks do stuff is incredibly entertaining, and you put a lot of experience and effort into your work! I'd like to offer some criticism that I feel should be said: I applaud the written article for saying you went through the bikes making sure they are safe to ride at speed, and noting that it's lucky the CBR landed in the hands of an experienced rider. I felt that aspect was missing from the video though. It made me worry that someone would think it a good idea to get started riding - and start riding fast at that - with a bike that may have safety issues such as a bent frame, and *especially* making an effort to hide it at the track day. While the article recommends spending a little more to get a better bike, the video doesn't. You could have made the video more informative to new riders by recommending thorough check ups!
In fact, here's my suggestion for any riders who are new to either riding in general or track riding: Never try to hide any faults in your bike, never try to hide your own experience! In fact, go for the exact opposite, and here's why: Most people at track days are incredibly friendly and helpful. If you go in as a new rider and pull someone's suit sleeve and say "Hey do you know anyone here who could take a look at my bike, I just got it and I'm here for the first time," I'm almost certain they will point you to someone who'd be happy to check out your ride and make sure it's safe. And you might make a new friend while you're at it!
the answer is KTM RC390
People are going to buy damaged motorcycles like this and kill themselves when it falls apart as it isn't as good as these used damage bikes lmao
So... when can I win a give away... 👉👈🥺
When they are suiting up, you're watching +$2,000 of ridding gear on top of a ~$1,000 bike 😂
Not that sedici kit that Zack has on.... lol
True, my Rev'It! suite was $1200, which is more than the CBR cost. Zack's Sedici suite is only $600 though, and it's a nice piece of apparel.
Well, your body is more valuable than any bike, so it makes sense.
@@AriH211 try buying leathers in Australia ! more cows than people here and yet they charge a bloody fortune for bike gear.
@@garycheavin8768 same in South Africa. Suits prices almost doubled in 5 years. Pirelli Diablo super corsa's are 800 dollars 🇺🇸 here. Biking in general has become shit expensive in the past few years.
Them passing anyone is rock solid proof it’s the rider not the ride that matters in the end.
Or how much you value your bike not being scratched up
stay on the street then @@matorix003
@matorix003 if you're going to a track and a big concern is getting your bike scratched up, you don't sound very confident in your riding ability.
Yep. I’m well aware my bike has much more potential than I do
The Versys looks like a rad streetfighter, not gonna lie
Why would you lie, nobody cares anyway
@@donniebunkerboi9975 fucking hell who shat in your conflakes this morning
Glad I’m not the only one feelin the battle toad 😂
@@donniebunkerboi9975 says you bonehead
@@thechannel498 triggered much eh snowflake? Your mom says you're special
I wouldn't dare to go over 30mph with that Honda :D looked super sketchy but great video nevertheless
Yeah surprised he made it out alive 🤣
I wouldn't dare get on
It looks extremely dangerous, someone should deal with it...
What was wrong with the Honda? Just a little road rash on the side, rightm
@@cesartapia610 Frame is twisted 4:44
I hate to say it, but I kind of like the way the Versys looks with only one headlight
Looks way better than stock.
It looks awesome.
Agreed 👍
There are some really good looking naked versys out there where people go to the effort of using Er6n coolant overflows and tanks etc. ...
Wasn't the pre 2010 model one headlight or a paired stack?
Petition to make the battle toad a reoccurring bike at CTXP. We want a restoration project!
For real. Scrambler build would be sick.
NAH! Reoccurring yes, restoration no, it looks like it's had some love over the years😆
Battle choad!
Nah, not a restoration, just take it deeper into street thumper territory. Make it brawler cool and track hero.
As soon as saw Ari and Zack on the thumbnail , my first thaught was it's gonna be a good time.
I used to own a ninja650 that’s practically the same bike as the versys and I can imagine it would be a lot like the sv650 on track. People don’t realize how much potential there is on track even with a cbr300! Don’t sleep on the small displacement bikes people 🏁👌🏻
Ok just got done watching the full video... imagine being an A group rider on a 1k getting passed by a clapped out 650 or 300 with sawed off mirrors and tweaked handlebars, then to top it off you see it on TH-cam by revzilla 😅
Tbh I’d be honored to passed by Ari & Zach Haha 😂👌🏻
@@SALTxTHExWOUND Don't think 'clapped out' is the right phrase here. More like dragged out of the trash. Probably literally.
But yeah, I was laughing my ass off when the montage of them passing a bunch of people started.
the Ninja 650 could ve very very different than the SV650... better suspension for the Ninja, but better engine for the SV... that V-twin gives you a lot better feeling than the paralell twin of the nInja, hands down.
@@MotorDanko Engine in the SV is actually not much more powerful than the ninja, the ninja has better low down power which ultimately is not too good for track riding. I tracked my ER6F and it's absolutely serviceable as a track bike. no problem getting knees down and with minor brake upgrades (pads, discs, braided lines) performance is all there to be competitive even in higher groups. Also the versys in the video is some premium grade shit cos that 650 engine puts out 72 horses stock, 68 in the versys (different cams even more low power) and can easily get 80 to the rear wheel with some in engine work and tuning
@@AntaresSQ01 Is not about the end power, is about how each bike delivers the power, i found the V-twin much more enjoiable than the paralell 180º crank from the ninja or the er6f... both are nice bikes, but i found the 650 parallel kinda boring... if only it was 270º or similar could be much much more enjoiable, sound better, and feel better... at the end you don't track this bike to be the fastest.. so if any of them are faster than the other, doesn't matter to me... both are solid bikes tho.
Ahhh yes, the LA craigslist finds.
'slight damage to fairings. Minor tip over while in the garage. Not expensive to fix, i just don't have the time'
Here in Montana you get more of the "ran when parked... in a field... 10 years ago" type finds on Craigslist.
Listen, those facebook and Craigslist finds can be gold. My buddy got himself a gold wing for nothing, and I got a well maintained Ninja 650 for a steal.
@@maluinthe90s I am a complete craigslist addict. It's actually becoming a serious problem.
Waking up to a video with Zack and Ari on a Saturday morning is the adult version of Saturday morning cartoons of when I was a kid. Just can't get better than this.
As a former Transformers and X-Men cartoon fan, I appreciate compliment!
I say this to my wife - it’s either CTXP or Daily Rider I’m waiting for.
Couldn’t agree more 😜
OMG ! The “offset” on the CBR is frighteningly funny 😱😆! You guys are nuts 🤪👍.
Listening to Ari speak the gospel about small displacement bikes and tracking them convinced me to get a used ninja 400 chuck some decent rubber on it and book my first track day. Can't wait for the 1st of May to get out there!
It's just the best thing! Pushing the limits on a small bike with good rubber is fantastic good fun and doing it on track is a completely different experience than on the street. No worries about blind corners, oncoming traffic and so on - just complete riding focus! It's the best!!
There is a video floating around there of a friend of mine eating people alive on his Ninja 250 at Laguna. Helps that he was AMA Rookie of the Year a while back.
@@JoshuaTootell I think I've saw that video
If it's the same video I'm thinking of a R6 ends up tailing him for a few laps after getting passed to learn his lines.
@@jullegaard90 Imagine having a Busa and getting passed by an OG on a clapped out grom
How was your track day?
$800 for that versys?? Man i'll take it without hesitate.
I have a 14' versys 650 I bought on a whim 2 years ago when I sold my rocket III, honestly it's the funnest bike I've ever owned and lives up to its versatility, Jack of all trades reputation. I've leaned it over HARD going around a round-a-bout while overtaking a street triple and taken it on a minimum maintenance river road complete with washouts and speed bumps? What speed bumps? It floats over them like a sofa. Its such a great little bike!
try to push a sofa over a speed bump, i dare you :D
I bought a 2018 versys 650 as a daily bike and honestly was amazed by how well it handles for what it is, and you can rip the engine super easily. Not something I have the skill to do on my super duke, for sure.
This channel is becoming more like TV series. Great job RevZilla! Thanks!
I know, that you wanted to show people, that you can enjoy tracks even on really small budget, but i have to say, this was brilliant comedy about how people can mess things up, just because they want to spend a very low ammount of money. This was so much Fun, thanks!
That moment when your gear is 2x the price of your bike! PRIORITIES PEOPLE haha! Love the content guys, nice work!
did you really pass some dudes on a cbr300 with a bent frame ? holy moly must have felt awesome :)
how bout making a some videos about upgrading the battletoad to a real track spec bike,that would be so cool
Battletoad Superleggera!
But leave it looking the way it is.
Our favorite duo is back!
Oh yeah! Definitely our fave!
lovin that versys, givin off mad max + cafe racer vibes
Horsepower will never beat experience! As an ex Australian Superbike Racer (who started out racing 250’s (in the Australian 250 production class), just like each of the Australian World Champions, learn time ride a low powered bike fast before attempting a larger displacement is key. This is the reason why a country with less than 10% of the population of the USA has produced soooo many World Champs in different categories! Loved watching all of this. Thanks guy! 👍😎🇦🇺
Winteresting
Most of our more recent famous road races (Aussie) actually started out on dirt track, reason we are so good in wet or patchy grip Moto GP/Superbike circuits. Stoner, Miller, Corser, They move overseas as soon as they are of age to race in the Red Bull Cup or other Overseas development series.
Stay around now for the Aussie production series, you miss to boat.
@@vintagetintrader1062 Yes, that’s also relevant as the dirt bike (as most Aussie kids did) start this way. You’re missing 3 others (amongst many more), Gardner, Doohan and Bayliss were all Australian champions before they got their break. Bayliss, for one, I can speak directly about as I raced against (from behind) for two seasons... 😊
Even after Bayliss reached the top he was still the same down to earth guy that you could (and I do still) have a chat about anything. Something that the Formula 1 drivers can’t match as they all think the sun shines out of the arses. 😂
@@marcusgeorge1825 Except for Kimi Raikkonen. Dude's autobiography would read, "Bwoah, I drove cars as a hobby then I found new hobby." The End, lol.
about 8 years ago I picked up two 1989 vtr 250's for 300 bucks (for both). I put a few hours cleaning carbs and installing few things and hit the track many times. It was always amazing to essentially spend more in gas getting somewhere, or on tires, than both of my bikes cost me to pick up in the first place. One of the best experiences I've ever purchased to this day and I still have em. I love those lil vtwin rippers and I've also been able to take down a few liter bikes at thunder hills shorter track here and there. Good times!
Man, I want to find the market where you can buy these for $1,000.
Love the Battletoad nickname
The CBR is modded with rear-wheel steering, just like an RX7
When do we get to see “Dave” back on the track?
Hell yes. I get to see Ari and Zack one last time before I ship to boot camp. Thank you, guys.
Good luck
Keep your head low and never believe the guy when he says, “GO! I’ll cover you “
Good luck! 💪
SIR YES SIR is your new name now
@@pulkinpulman2028 sir sandwiches are a big no no my guy
I always love seeing these budget challenges. I'd love to see more down the road! yet another great video fellas, thanks!!
Thanks for watching 👍
How much did RevZilla pay the field for you to get those passes in the second session?
Naaaa i went on the track with ninja 300 i passed few........and I'm not rossi you can do it all depend on the raider.......
I pass people on a R3 all the time here in CA, skill will beat Horsepower all day long
My friend hit SoW on his RS125...with a KX65 engine and just railed around 600's and 1000's all day 🤣
I loved this. The daily rider videos are great, and the Shop Manual makes me want to work on a bike. But Zack and Ari together is GOLD! Love this!
Imagine knowing you got passed by a cbr300, with a bent frame. And knowing All your riding buddies are going to play this video every. time. they see you. 😂😂😂
Waking up to some coffee and and a new Ari / Zack video? What a legendary start to the weekend!
The video was entertaining, and I really liked the concept. That being said, for new riders on a budget if you increase the budget by maybe a couple hundred bucks and spend a lot of time looking you can find much better bikes to use on the track or the road. It is kind of funny in Canada the bikes tend to cost more (even past inflation from American to Canadian) yet the bikes are better maintained. I think we just typically have more time to look after the bikes in the winter time.
Knowing that Ari and Zack drove past my house in the South Bay Area to get to Sonoma without visiting makes me question our relationship /crazygirlfriendmeme
12:58 Omg, is it just me or was that a really close pass..
theyre professionals with plenty of track time so not really worried, but theyre on fucked up bikes so kinda worried, but im sure they had to do a full inspection on them for safety to be able to do this so back to not really worried. The camera's fisheye effect probably makes it look a lot closer too
in a video of isle of man tt with guy martin narrating over his footage he mentioned in a similar overtaking situation that it looks a lot closer on camera than it was in real life
found the bit of video for reference
th-cam.com/video/5uwp2atrSgw/w-d-xo.html
about 6:05 if it doesnt link correctly
I’ve passed and been passed with that kind of distance. It may also look close due to the camera lens. But it all comes down to confidence anyways.
Where are you guys picking up bikes this nice for $1,000? Those would be $2,500- $3,000 around here. You can barely find a '90s model Ninja 250 that's been dropped by 25 different owners for $1,000
Yeah, if it can be ridden it's at least 2k
I wouldn’t go that cheap/sketchy, but there’s defo something to be said about being the underdog at a track day. Taking my little cb500f through inspection yeah people would look & judge next to all the Ducati’s, and I’d get overtaken a lot, but there’s a truly great feeling overtaking bikes that have twice as much power or more as you!
This is Zack & Ari at their finest; commencing with Zack vs Ari, and concluding with Zack collaborating with Ari. This is the pinnacle of their production, whether it be zipping around on a race track or delivering pizza, to building a floating bike or chopping down their Christmas trees. I applaud these two.
Perspective: watching this video from the developing world where a $1,000 bike is luxury.
The budget bikes are way nicer than my bike. I didn’t even know u could get bikes that nice for $1000
what do you ride?
@@alecgarcia963 Kawasaki 92 ex 500 all beat up but runs starts like crazy maybe a 20 k miles blue white and faded red pink stripe.
@@spearshaker7974 I had a red/white gpz500s 1993 is that basically the same bike?
@@chrishart8548 yeah pretty much from what I can tell
So true ,you can definitely have fun on a cheaper bike on track, without the fear of dropping it. It totally frees up the mind.
My first track bike was a 99' VFR 800 with 100 000 miles on it.
Straight piped exhaust system, no lights, or mirrors, it was sounding like old school moto gp bike lol.
All for 1000 dollars 😁
Everybody should do track days as it teaches you everything about riding.
You can only benefit from it.
All the racing they've done, no wonder Zack and Ari became such good riders.
"Yeah, that's pretty high-spec wire holding it in place. I wouldn't worry about that." OMG! Did he just use a jedi mind trick on that guy? This is the most entertaining thing I've seen all day.
I would buy either of them for those prices. Them are 2k a piece in the midwest though..
you can get a Kawasaki zx6r 600 r or a honda cbr 1000 for that price in my country
As an A group rider myself, I would not usually feel bad at all being passed my Ari and Zach on any bike. If I was “featured” in this video I would be so ashamed of my myself lol
I have an 09 Versys and I've been on the track with it! Good times...
This is why I envy people in the US, used versys in that condition would sell for $3000-$3500 here in the Philippines
This video isn't realistic at all with regards to motorcycle pricing in the US. You're not going to find these "deals". 1000 will get you an old beat up motorcycle that doesn't run.
@@williamfoster4268 agreed. I am always impressed with how cheaply I have been able to get a badass motorcycle, BUT don’t expect to find a bike like this versys for $800. It won’t happen.
Got a versys would take that broken one for 1k.
I live in a motorcycle abundant part of the US and the majority of people selling bikes online are utter morons. One dude wants $3000 FIRM for a 20 year old Honda CBR with no title. Another wants $5500 firm for his 17 year old GSXR750 that has been stretched and ridden at the drag strip to the point where it probably needs an engine overhaul. It's not just the philippines so don't feel bad
@@williamfoster4268 you mean like...that Versys?
I loved learning to ride on a baby blade - Zach & Ari are 2 of the coolest dudes on the planet. Ride safe brothers.
Can someone come up with a program to notify whenever Ari and Zack have a video together... tied of frantically searching rezvilla every time to see if I missed one
I really enjoyed this! You fellows were having too much fun!!
In Florida it’s more like a 82 Yamaha virago that used to run but just need a the carbs adjusted and a new battery
This is the first bike video I have seen from you two. Great video. Reminds me of what a couple of college guys might try on public side roads on a sunny weekend. Charming. :)
800$ for a 09 versys is still very good, I try to find a sub 30k km versys 2010 or newer and the cheapest I've found in Europe was 3700€ (4.3 k $).
2 stroke 125s are pretty cheap
@@proarmy70 well the price isn't really to high, I was just surprised they've found one for 800
@@proarmy70 suzuki gxr 600 and honda cbr1000 are also quite cheap you could easily get them for 1000
@@hubertkam7647 maybe but I actually want a versatile sporty adventure and I don't think there's anything cheaper then a versys for that.
Ari and Zack are great. Awesome attitude about things and highly entertaining. Good job you two and thanks to RevZilla for the content!
10:58 Ari's Gloves don't seem to be Rev'it!
"That's why you don't need a R6, kids." lol
I can’t believe Ari piloted that heap around a track! Hilarious watching it actually pass people 🤣
I put 8k miles on a cbr300r, touring around the U.S.
It's a Big Underrated Bike, honestly.
A ton is fuckin' ambitious for it, though. Best I made was 85mph.
😂 You guys are honestly a friggin riot!!! You had me rolling in laughter and tears with your hairbrained idea and hilariously priceless commentary. Absolutely priceless. I love you guys!!!
That 650 is the perfect track bike. Cheap. Powerful enough, and based on a solid performer. Add some bars, sliders, and thrash until it's trashed.
Can’t beat a Zach and Ari vid with coffee in the morning since it’s 28 degrees outside. Also if you feel an urge to get rid of the CBR 300 it would make a good transplant for a Grom 😉
So... lesson of the day: 1000$ is enough to buy a track bike. Just make sure the frame isn’t bent. Probably it would be a good idea to spend a few more bucks and some wrenching time to fix the most urgent issues before hitting the track.
Fastest 18mins video i've watch today. Enjoy every bit of it thanks for the quality content!!
holy shit that wheel alignment . my face would turn pale if i bought it and found it later. and shit he could ride it pretty much! medium rare
You guys got some balls riding those thing, but it was funny, glad to see you made it out alive!
Damn. Now I want a Versys 650 streetfighter. Stop giving me stupid ideas! ;D
The most fun duo in motovlogging, period! Another great video guys, you rock. 😎
awesome episode thanks revzilla for keeping these guys in our radar!!
13:01 "the battle toad is coming for you" 🤣
Come on! We want to see H2H between Indian Challenger vs. HD RG or Chieftain vs SG or Chief 2022 vs HD Softail Slim vs BMW R18.... that’s what really matters
Seeing the VFR at 7:30 makes me think I should try taking mine out
Yep. I had a 94 750. It will do it all day long. Stock Suspension needs an upgrade though.
Insurance Company: that bike needs to be scrapped due to twisted frame.
Revzilla: let’s see if we can break 100mph on said frame.
Count on these two to do the sketchiest shit possible on two wheels...😂 My favourite duo on the internet. Period. Ykw!!??? You guys should do one episode with the CRF300L and the klx300
They did crf250L and verseys 300x
@@chrishart8548 Yes but you have got to agree it's not the same as comparing these two specifically...
@@vikasvasisht5378 hopefully they do. There is a klx250 vs crf250l somewhere but the klx was on carbs . but they were almost the same.
Now that was entertaining. Great one guys!
I saw Versys, I click.. Gotta pass the big bike licence this year
Good luck buddy. ;) And remember - getting your license is merely the beginning of mastering the craft of riding. So take it easy, be smart about it and above all - practice!
Because practice makes perfect and on motorcycles it's all about muscle memory. It's good muscle memory that saves lives, not loud pipes. ;)
@@mickeypopa Will do! :) not planning to go fast and loud, I want to enjoy the ride.
Guys. Twisted frame of any kind or wheel alignment means the bike is not to be ridden at all. Its just so dangerous.
Loved the verses though. Nothing like a cheap and functional old motorcycle to get the two wheel job done
Just like topgear. At the end, we learned we learned nothing.
Thats why I love it.
Awesome video guys!
My Versys 650 was my 1st bike and 1st love. She will always have a special place in my heart. You can do anything on that bike ❤️
I can't even ride my perfectly fine bike like that, and they ride those full of bend machine fast!
Definitely need to take more practice.
Haven't been to a track yet but this gives me motivation that's it's possible on a budget.
Mine scared the shit out of me, seriously, I've never been to the toilet so many times!
I'd be more than happy with either of those bikes.
I have a 2009 Versys 650 and it's an amazing bike. Bulletproof, fast enough, comfortable, and carves twisties as well as it tours with full luggage. I spent 3k on it total. Great bike.
Just what I needed, an excuse to track my Versys haha. I have a 2009 Versys in the exact same color green, except mine is intact save a few minor scrapes from the previous owner. It's a blast in the canyons for sure.
"tip toeing around the track" going miles faster than I ever could haha
In CA I'm sure it's different but in the mid west it's easy to find 3-5 thousand bikes for $1000 in the winter months. especially if you start looking in sept. save the bikes so you get updates. come end of oct the bikes will start dropping. $1000 on black friday is the same as 3 grand on april 20 people cant wait that long. "hey kids, we're not having xmas till daddy sells his bike"
reverse is true come march you will see $500 bikes that people are trying to sell for $1500. I have a 03 GZ-250 doesn't run just needs carburetor rebuilt no title.
as long aa speeds stay under a 100 you can surprise alot of folks on a versys
I can’t believe they passed the technical inspection
Watching this again but I wonder, how upset were Zack and Ari at doing another track day?
That Versys has potential! Keep it.
Just bin that CBR though. Barely a parts bike there.
please do a version two of this episode of ctxp! $1000 track showdowns and the subsequent revzilla fix ups and reviews should be a yearly thing.
RevZilla: Hey, you can own one of these piece of shit for $1000 and use it as your track bike and get laughed at,
Me who rides $800 bike as daily commuter: (--.--)
(battletoads) hey remember that game.
You play it for 15min then become an emotional wreck, then quit, then go outside. That was gaming......
Hilarious video! Amazing to see how much skill can make up for too! Watching junk bikes pass Ducati's and other nice bikes on the track was awesome.
Go big green!
The first gen. Versys will always be misunderstood. It commands great respect, but certainly not based on it's looks.
Embrace the ugly Toad!
Cruiser vs low displacement sport bike on track and on the highway maybe? Idk if any channels have done that.
How on earth are you finding fairly new street bikes for under a grand, even ones that has been in an accident, with frame damage? Here in my area in Texas (using craigslist) I can't find anything but broken-down junk that is not running and is not street legal for under two grand, and essentially nothing except bikes in parts for under a grand. Most cheap street bikes from 2005 and newer that are running and street legal are in the 4-6k range.
Where y’all finding running bikes for under $1k? I can’t even find broken cheap Chinese GY6 scooters for under $1k in my area.
lmao imagine riding your 600cc bike and then get overtaken by a clapped out CBR300R
It's not easy even for an experienced rider to get the most out of a 400cc
Neat concept. Now try it for $2 or $3K, which is what most people realistically do.