Not surprised Jeep is actually bringing meaningful updates after so many years with no competition. Jeep sales are down 17 percent in the same time frame Bronco increased by 38%.
Right? Stupid move by Jeep. If they had kept improving the brand, and built a large enough moat, Ford may have had second thoughts about rolling out the Bronco.
@@MarkPharaoh Yeah, I am not sure if I trust these 'safety'-gizmos in a Wrangler, especially given the harsh conditions that it is subjected to by a lot of people. We ordered side airbags in our JK, but in retrospect (after seeing they do nothing for the head) I wish we did not. It is just another gizmo to worry about or to potentially blow up from use on the trail (I have read reports of it doing just that).
lol i'm surprised they even have legally been allowed to make vehicles without them. i would have thought they were DOT/NHTSA standard by now for back seat vehicles.
LOLZ at the engineer saying they crash tested the jeep more. lol. why didn't they crash test it more in 2018 when they designed the JL? this is Jeep trying to play catch up with Ford, who designed a Bronco which is a better vehicle all around. Stellantis F'd up
@@James-pl2oy nope, door mounted. At 2:01 you can see that there's no mirrors. And in the other shots you can quite clearly see that they're on the doors
12:02 it’s important to remember when discussing Decibels, that db is a logarithmic scale. Every 10db actually equates to a 10x increase in loudness, so even a 2db sound reduction is a huge difference.
Its crazy a base rubicon with the most limited options possibly is over 60k. With dealer markups, could be 65k easy. Thats crazy. I really am waiting to see what the new 4 runner looks like before any purchase
No dealer markups and just change to automatic from manual will bring you to almost 65k there. If not for off-roading or the look, 65k has much more choices for city-SUVs.
Three time Jeep Wrangler owner here. Just sold my 21 4xe Rubicon because of all the issues with it. Stellantis is destroying the Jeep brand by trying to move it upscale and pricing it out of the market. They need to focus on reliability and reducing costs. I don’t see myself buying a new Wrangler at this point and I never imagined my garage without one.
Jeeps have always been expensive. Though I hope they don’t suffer the same fate Chrysler did trying to make it a luxury brand while not being able to actually be luxury. Mazda succeeded at this because they kept the prices down. But jeeps are full of off road tech which keeps prices up
Agree with everything you said. Was a big eye opener for me when I ended up having the bad head issue and and I was just a month out of warranty and Jeep did 0.0 to help me offset the cost of a defect that obviously still looms in the 3.6. ended up paying just under 4k to square that away. A Jeep that was meticulously maintained never beat on, and never off-road. Was my daily driver. I had transmission leaks, and the dreaded oil filter cooler housing failure. All out of pocket. Had four Wranglers in my family. No more Jeeps for me. I bought a Subaru Outback and my next 4 wheel drive will be something Toyota probably a 4runner.
@@dawsongranger4940 except no, they haven't been. in the late 90's you could get a 2 door base model for $15,000. a honda civic or toyota corolla was $13,000. now a honda civic or toyota corolla is $22,000. and a 2 door base wrangler is $36,000.
@@jgg204 $15,000 in 1990 is about $35,000 in todays money. That lines up pretty good with the base wrangler. And the base wrangler has a lot more shit in it than a 90s pos mail carrier wrangler
Truth. I leased “old” style 21 Grand Cherokee. Lease is due in January and while I love the Jeep, I’m probably going to just buy out an Acura or Lexus. Jeep prices have entered the premium/luxury market and at this point the leases are so expensive compared to what I got mine for ($430). If I’m going to get bent over, I’d rather just go for a premium Japanese brand and keep it for 10 years.
How in the f*** does "thestraightpipes" have more subscribers than you? I think I know why, the majority of people are some car casuals, not many actual enthusiasts left. Keep doing what you're doing please. I know it must be extremely time consuming to deliver your style of content, but I appreciate it tremendously. You guys are the only ones who actually tell us if something isn't good. Everyone else can't say enough good things about every car and thats bs, every car has its downsides.
In my opinion, a lot of car reviews are watched post-purchase as a way to confirm a buyer made the right decision. No one wants to hear that the car they committed to buying was a mistake, they just want to see the 0-60 "race" time with platitudes that what they have is good. Or for those who don't buy, they just want to hear the bits they can't compare on a spreadsheet are good. Hence the shallow reviews you see in most car channels.
I unsubscribed from the straight pipes when the ratio of sponsored content hit about 75% (not thrilled about Savagegeese taking Tuxmat's money for that matter). Those boys are kind of fun but their formula is just. So. Tiresome. After you've seen it five hundred times
People that watch Straightpipes are the ones that usually watch cheesy sitcoms that need a laughtrack to cover how bad it is. SAVAGEGEESE and Alex on Autos are light-years ahead.
I love my Rubicon Gladiator (manual). If you’ve never owned one, and this is my first, there’s nothing like taking tops and doors off, in the sun, and feeling the minimalist driving and the breeze. And…I used it to build my barn conversion. I hauled just about everything. I have a hitch extension that allows me to haul 12’ boards. And it’s been extremely reliable after 46k miles. It really is a Jeep thing.
I’m mostly curious if the wind noise from the hard top is significantly better? Less whistling and roaring wind? My parents have a 2020 Sahara Unlimited and it’s pretty comfortable but it’s so god damn loud on the highway it made my old 1994 F150 sound like a cadillac.
Finally they made changes. The towing capacity is a big one. For a brand selling 100k outdoor products no one bothered to think that someone wouldn’t want to to camp in a garbage bag enclosure over a weekend of “WheELiNg” is mind boggling.
Hope they improved the windshield so it doesn’t crack so easily, that integrated windshield antenna will probably be more expensive to replace if it does.
Have the gorilla glass option and no issues. Our 2018 also never had an issue with the standard windshield. I know the JL is more raked vs the JK for this reason.
Im just glad they bumped up the towing number. That means Jeep is back on the table some time in the future. Wife wants the next vehicle to be able to tow a small camper and 5k towing will definitely cover that. Now to take out my entire 401k to afford a down payment.
Are you going to leave the campsite and do some rock crawling and stream-fording with the doors off, or are you just going to go for a hike or paddle a canoe out on the lake? If it's more the latter, ask yourself if you're lusting over a Wrangler purely for superficial "outdoorsy" image, because there's a huge lineup of more practical, affordable, and economical vehicles that can tow 5,000lbs. No need to nuke your 401k.
@@ktakashismith I'm not actually going to tank my 401k lol. It's a "keeping up with the Jones" joke. Without divulging into an entire life story I will just confirm, the doors will be off, the top will be soft. You can keep the ducks, grumpy grills and Amazon headlights, never really wanted to be a Jeep guy, just a guy with a Jeep and much like the old ZR2 S10 I used to own, it will probably be mostly stock with better tires than factory and other practical upgrades.
"4 or 5 dB doesn't sound like a lot . . ." But it is a lot. And probably no "real" Jeep people would care, but the kind of people who will actually buy this luxury-priced glamp wagon might appreciate it.
@@compustuff6836 Folks just spouting something they heard is common on the youtubes, they have no actual idea what causes death wobble....it just sounds cool!
That platform literally isn't big enough to hold enough fuel to keep that 392 from needing every other gas station...but bless them for still making it an option.
My concern is about the seemingly smaller size air vents under the display. Will they be able to push out enough air? I usually use the middle ones to direct air towards the center of the cabin, while closing the side ones as I don't like to be directly hit by the cold/warm air. The vents were great and very effective as they were. There was no need to increase the display size horizontally, especially since this new wider screen horizontal format won’t really benefit maps, which if anything, would rather require vertical expansion. Regardless, previously the aftermarket had great oversized display options, while the vent size has remained unaffected. So Jeep could have simply incorporated those. Making the vents smaller was clearly not worth any purpose. I wish Jeep had left them as they were.
With the exception of the 392. Jeep has been one of the few brands thats kept reasonably above board despite the massive Stellantis mismanagement. Pricing does need a 20-30% drop but the whole company is already feeling the pinch from their greed.
I think the safety improvements are borne out of the 4300lbs sled used for crash testing. That weight jump for the sled wrecked havoc on the majority of vehicles crash ratings.
A good review of the product but I think any discussion of Jeep products is incomplete without talking about the ridiculous pricing . Jeep’s used to be so fun because they were affordable and accessible, now they’re being moved upscale which I (and many fans) think is a huge mistake. If it’s permanent, I hope Ford kicks their ass.😢
In its own class of what? Breaking down? I've travelled outside the US and have been due to my job in many remote places in south America, Africa and Asia. I've yet to seen a single Wrangler. You only ever see Land Cruisers and Hilux or old Defenders.
@@electrikoptik They ALL break down and have their Achilles Heels. No need to single out the Wrangler. Your Defender example was especially bad. If you work on cars, you would know.
@@electrikoptik apples to oranges…you’re comparing old Land Cruisers with new Wranglers? How many 2023 Defenders are out in “the brush” these days? The Wrangler isn’t a truck/SUV (which comprise like 95% of new vehicles in the USA)!
@@JoJoJoker you’re missing the point buddy boy. The point is that outside the US nobody cares or respects Wrangles. The Land Cruisers I saw were mostly 70-series and 100-series with a couple of newer 200-series. The Land Rovers were all old series II and III.
@@electrikoptik how people view Wranglers is irrelevant to my statement. The Porsche 911 is also in a class of its own (as a rear-engined sports car) regardless of whether or not you like it.
The reason why I didn't buy a JL was the lack of the headroom. It's the same as JK, but because the transmission protrudes into the tub more, it's not possible to lower the seat by using new rails, the way I did in JK. I have a faint hope that the new electric seat goes lower, but frankly it's very faint. All those electric motors and gears have to go somewhere, so why would it be lower?
The new 2024 grille design is great or even better than the 2023 grille design but I think Jeep should make a metal version of the 2024 wrangler grille. This would look good on the high altitude 4xe version of the wrangler. The older 2023 wrangler grille design worked well with the high altitude 4xe wrangler.
If i had access to that trail guide thingy in the screen i would be seriously considering trailbaiting bronco owners , if they have access to the same system 😂
Any refresh to the gladiator coming? Also it would be cool if Jeep worked with On X and provided a 3 year membership with any new Jeep purchase. I use that app more then Sirius lol
I understand that the doors and widhshielf is removable, but I do not understand that there is no versions where it is not. It adds to the cost, limits space and makes interior noisy. The lack of "ordinary version" limits sales abroad as well.
"We listened to the customers. We listened to journalists..." lol that is such BS. If it wasn't for the Bronco, AC and Apple CarPlay/Android Auto might still be an option. Jeep is starting to feel the pressure of offering more because now they have competition. You can't just say "it's a Jeep thing" now to make excuses for the Wrangler.
My nurse girlfriend will appreciate the microphone array when she needs to call her yoga coach for a private lesson at his house while I'm out of town.
Wishing Mark a speedy recovery after the EQS Hyperscreen put him in the ER for several days. Never imagined how devastating blue light could be.
Blue light syndrome 😂
Stepping inside the foyer of an EQS without his Gunnars was a bold mistake
What exactly happened in serious and where did you hear about it?
@@Dowlphinlook up eqs hyperscreen, and come to your own conclusion to your question.
I dont understand. Is that a joke
Thank you Ford for helping with these updates
You know 100% 3/4 of these updates wouldn’t have happened without the bronco putting pressure on jeep
@@dawsongranger4940 so true man. Jeep didn't do this, Ford did
Exactly. Ford deserves all the credit for forcing Jeep to add basic safety updates.
🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏
Really? Still waiting for that Bronco truck.
Still waiting.
Not surprised Jeep is actually bringing meaningful updates after so many years with no competition. Jeep sales are down 17 percent in the same time frame Bronco increased by 38%.
Right? Stupid move by Jeep. If they had kept improving the brand, and built a large enough moat, Ford may have had second thoughts about rolling out the Bronco.
@@weirdshibainu Its all about greed - Jeep has been overcharging for Wranglers for many years
The bronco is new, of course sales are up. it's an alternative for the non jeep guys
I’m just happy someone really challenged them, Jeep was getting out of hand with they prices
@@CeeJay591 Crazy to think that 392 equipped Wranglers are selling for $100k at dealers with markup. 💀
Now that Wrangler actually has competition (Bronco), nice to see them step up their game. Especially from a NVH standpoint.
Pretensioning seat belts?! Jeep truly is a pioneer in safety!
What? Those have been around since the mid 80's (Mercedes).
@@mrtopcat2it was a joke…
@@MarkPharaoh Yeah, I am not sure if I trust these 'safety'-gizmos in a Wrangler, especially given the harsh conditions that it is subjected to by a lot of people. We ordered side airbags in our JK, but in retrospect (after seeing they do nothing for the head) I wish we did not. It is just another gizmo to worry about or to potentially blow up from use on the trail (I have read reports of it doing just that).
lol i'm surprised they even have legally been allowed to make vehicles without them. i would have thought they were DOT/NHTSA standard by now for back seat vehicles.
LOLZ at the engineer saying they crash tested the jeep more. lol. why didn't they crash test it more in 2018 when they designed the JL? this is Jeep trying to play catch up with Ford, who designed a Bronco which is a better vehicle all around. Stellantis F'd up
My morning dumps are always better with SG videos.
Finally! Side mirrors attached to the body so you still have them in door-off mode. Bronco competition making Jeep up there game
Where did you get that info? That would be nice but I haven't heard that anywhere.
@@CBR2200 1:00 into the video and you’ll see it with the doors off
@@James-pl2oy nope, door mounted. At 2:01 you can see that there's no mirrors. And in the other shots you can quite clearly see that they're on the doors
@@nerferfangotcha. Apparently it’s a Mopar mirror kit option for $195. Geez, how hard would it have been to redesign it smh
@@James-pl2oy wrong. Those are the accessory door off mirrors.
My wife's boyfriend's step daughter will so love one of these for college, thanks for the reporting Jack!
LMFAO. TU from me, almost choked on my coffee
my Wife is currently looking for a boyfriend, so this might be me soon 🤞
Worth mentioning is that Jeep appears to be keeping the 392 option, and in this day and age that's awesome!
yea because that trim is selling like hot cakes!......i have yet to see a single one in the wild
@@Scypher0th I've only seen the 392s on lots...never actually on the road. Even then, I've only seen a couple for sale and the markups are insane!
100k for a wrangler is too much though. It's an amazing suv, but the car market is still crazy
What would be awesome is a straight 6 speed stick shift again. TJ/LJ was the last good jeep.
@@Scypher0thyeah a 110k jeep after markup is a bit much
So the bronco coming out has made jeep finally step up its game. About time.
That, or it was time for a refresh anyway.
That and the Tacoma/4Runner pair on the horizon
12:02 it’s important to remember when discussing Decibels, that db is a logarithmic scale. Every 10db actually equates to a 10x increase in loudness, so even a 2db sound reduction is a huge difference.
I did not know that. Thank you!
Another approximation, reducing dB by 3 is cutting noise in half.
Same. Didn’t know. Thank you.
Just got my 2024 Extreme Recon and it’s amazing! Steering is much better that my 2021 and all the upgrades are so nice to have. What a vehicle!!!
Good to see Jeep not trying to make it everything to everyone, ending up with a nothing nobody cares about.
The passion was evident.
Well done.
“NVH improvements”
Jeep owners - “I have to have these mudbogger tera grappler M/T tires for my daily commute to the office. ItS a JeEp ThInG!”
Its crazy a base rubicon with the most limited options possibly is over 60k. With dealer markups, could be 65k easy. Thats crazy. I really am waiting to see what the new 4 runner looks like before any purchase
Honestly don’t matter what it looks like it’ll still be better than a $60Jeep product lol
No dealer markups and just change to automatic from manual will bring you to almost 65k there. If not for off-roading or the look, 65k has much more choices for city-SUVs.
“It’s kinda fun (with the winch) when you can help your friends that may not have a Jeep.”
Bronco swipe lol.
Three time Jeep Wrangler owner here. Just sold my 21 4xe Rubicon because of all the issues with it. Stellantis is destroying the Jeep brand by trying to move it upscale and pricing it out of the market. They need to focus on reliability and reducing costs. I don’t see myself buying a new Wrangler at this point and I never imagined my garage without one.
Jeeps have always been expensive. Though I hope they don’t suffer the same fate Chrysler did trying to make it a luxury brand while not being able to actually be luxury. Mazda succeeded at this because they kept the prices down. But jeeps are full of off road tech which keeps prices up
What were your issues. Not a fan of 4xe
Agree with everything you said. Was a big eye opener for me when I ended up having the bad head issue and and I was just a month out of warranty and Jeep did 0.0 to help me offset the cost of a defect that obviously still looms in the 3.6. ended up paying just under 4k to square that away. A Jeep that was meticulously maintained never beat on, and never off-road. Was my daily driver. I had transmission leaks, and the dreaded oil filter cooler housing failure. All out of pocket. Had four Wranglers in my family. No more Jeeps for me. I bought a Subaru Outback and my next 4 wheel drive will be something Toyota probably a 4runner.
@@dawsongranger4940 except no, they haven't been. in the late 90's you could get a 2 door base model for $15,000. a honda civic or toyota corolla was $13,000. now a honda civic or toyota corolla is $22,000. and a 2 door base wrangler is $36,000.
@@jgg204 $15,000 in 1990 is about $35,000 in todays money. That lines up pretty good with the base wrangler. And the base wrangler has a lot more shit in it than a 90s pos mail carrier wrangler
With improvements now the Jeep only cost $ 180,000...
Jeep has priced themselves out of their own market.
Truth. I leased “old” style 21 Grand Cherokee. Lease is due in January and while I love the Jeep, I’m probably going to just buy out an Acura or Lexus. Jeep prices have entered the premium/luxury market and at this point the leases are so expensive compared to what I got mine for ($430). If I’m going to get bent over, I’d rather just go for a premium Japanese brand and keep it for 10 years.
Current models start at $55,000 USD base 4dr, and $58,000 base 2dr in my country. Top model is over $91,000. Far too expensive for what it is.
The vehicle of choice for Costco Commandos everywhere….
Not true!!!
I saw some broncos there yesterday!!!
Broncos and Landcruisers too!
Right next to all the Teslas
Can you ask for a prius with 8 inch ground clearance
Prius lift kit appears to be a real thing.
Wouldn't that just be a Rav4 Hybrid?
How in the f*** does "thestraightpipes" have more subscribers than you? I think I know why, the majority of people are some car casuals, not many actual enthusiasts left. Keep doing what you're doing please. I know it must be extremely time consuming to deliver your style of content, but I appreciate it tremendously. You guys are the only ones who actually tell us if something isn't good. Everyone else can't say enough good things about every car and thats bs, every car has its downsides.
Straightpipes is corny af but nothing is more cringe than Throttle house to me. I just can't with them at all! 😂
In my opinion, a lot of car reviews are watched post-purchase as a way to confirm a buyer made the right decision.
No one wants to hear that the car they committed to buying was a mistake, they just want to see the 0-60 "race" time with platitudes that what they have is good. Or for those who don't buy, they just want to hear the bits they can't compare on a spreadsheet are good. Hence the shallow reviews you see in most car channels.
I unsubscribed from the straight pipes when the ratio of sponsored content hit about 75% (not thrilled about Savagegeese taking Tuxmat's money for that matter).
Those boys are kind of fun but their formula is just. So. Tiresome. After you've seen it five hundred times
People that watch Straightpipes are the ones that usually watch cheesy sitcoms that need a laughtrack to cover how bad it is.
SAVAGEGEESE and Alex on Autos are light-years ahead.
It's children that love constantly being sold stuff in videos that like the straight pipes. Those greedy guys became cringe
Love how you guys are incorporating interviews into your videos when it makes sense. Great content!
I love my Rubicon Gladiator (manual). If you’ve never owned one, and this is my first, there’s nothing like taking tops and doors off, in the sun, and feeling the minimalist driving and the breeze. And…I used it to build my barn conversion. I hauled just about everything. I have a hitch extension that allows me to haul 12’ boards. And it’s been extremely reliable after 46k miles.
It really is a Jeep thing.
They finally acted on the horrid safety ratings year after year.
You should be thanking Ford, not Jeep lol
Only vehicle to roll over in a crash test. Didn’t hear anything about fixing that
Year? Wrangler was a death trap since its inception.
@@millenniumzeekor the death wobble happening on highways across the nation.
Gotta loves these “engineered sales people”. Thanks for only now making the changes that the consumers having been waiting 20+ years for.
I’m mostly curious if the wind noise from the hard top is significantly better? Less whistling and roaring wind? My parents have a 2020 Sahara Unlimited and it’s pretty comfortable but it’s so god damn loud on the highway it made my old 1994 F150 sound like a cadillac.
My guess is, that it is probably not. A uniform large headliner has to make a big difference.
Finally they made changes. The towing capacity is a big one. For a brand selling 100k outdoor products no one bothered to think that someone wouldn’t want to to camp in a garbage bag enclosure over a weekend of “WheELiNg” is mind boggling.
They didn't listen to Jeep Customers. They listed to Ford. LOL
Can it be driven at 70 mph without lane wandering and bouncing over every imperfection?
You can’t have it all
No because this is an off-road toy, not a commuter car
@@mmr0221 my 2017 JK could be driven at 80mph and didn't wander all over the road
My Mojave has zero issues with wandering, nor did the JKU it replaced. Both on 35s.
No but the new Bronco can.
Hope they improved the windshield so it doesn’t crack so easily, that integrated windshield antenna will probably be more expensive to replace if it does.
Have the gorilla glass option and no issues. Our 2018 also never had an issue with the standard windshield. I know the JL is more raked vs the JK for this reason.
Yes. Gorilla glass option. It's a necessity
But have they finally fixed the galvanic corrosion issue between the aluminum and steel parts of the body? Death wobble?
NOPE. still rust shitbucket
Shhhhh it’s quieter and it now won’t kill you when the death wobble sends you into a ditch
Im just glad they bumped up the towing number. That means Jeep is back on the table some time in the future. Wife wants the next vehicle to be able to tow a small camper and 5k towing will definitely cover that.
Now to take out my entire 401k to afford a down payment.
Are you going to leave the campsite and do some rock crawling and stream-fording with the doors off, or are you just going to go for a hike or paddle a canoe out on the lake? If it's more the latter, ask yourself if you're lusting over a Wrangler purely for superficial "outdoorsy" image, because there's a huge lineup of more practical, affordable, and economical vehicles that can tow 5,000lbs. No need to nuke your 401k.
@@ktakashismith I'm not actually going to tank my 401k lol. It's a "keeping up with the Jones" joke.
Without divulging into an entire life story I will just confirm, the doors will be off, the top will be soft. You can keep the ducks, grumpy grills and Amazon headlights, never really wanted to be a Jeep guy, just a guy with a Jeep and much like the old ZR2 S10 I used to own, it will probably be mostly stock with better tires than factory and other practical upgrades.
That yellow Rubicon at the 3:00 mark was terrifying... need to air down 🤣... may also need to unlock the front diff.
"4 or 5 dB doesn't sound like a lot . . ." But it is a lot. And probably no "real" Jeep people would care, but the kind of people who will actually buy this luxury-priced glamp wagon might appreciate it.
and the price just went up by 15k
JEEP: Just. Empty. Every. Pocket.
@@matts6551 and 401K at this point
But have they fixed the "death wobble" front end issues that occur under braking?
If you are experiencing shaking while braking, its not death wobble its due to a warped brake rotor. Get them machined or replaced
@@compustuff6836 Folks just spouting something they heard is common on the youtubes, they have no actual idea what causes death wobble....it just sounds cool!
That platform literally isn't big enough to hold enough fuel to keep that 392 from needing every other gas station...but bless them for still making it an option.
My friend Michelle has a 392 and gets the same range as my Mojave....so nope.
A base 2024 Rubicon starts at 64k before the dealer “market adjustments” (figure +10k). Your into Porsche Cayenne money for that thing.
Thank you Ford for these updates
Ford did a great job with the 2024 Wrangler refresh.
Appreciate all the useful info in one damn good overview.
Would love one of these, but I can never map out how to fit it into my life.
good driving putting this video together, well thought-out!
Did I zone out or did I not hear him talking about how Jeep addressed the complaints with the abysmal manual transmission?
My concern is about the seemingly smaller size air vents under the display. Will they be able to push out enough air? I usually use the middle ones to direct air towards the center of the cabin, while closing the side ones as I don't like to be directly hit by the cold/warm air. The vents were great and very effective as they were.
There was no need to increase the display size horizontally, especially since this new wider screen horizontal format won’t really benefit maps, which if anything, would rather require vertical expansion. Regardless, previously the aftermarket had great oversized display options, while the vent size has remained unaffected. So Jeep could have simply incorporated those. Making the vents smaller was clearly not worth any purpose. I wish Jeep had left them as they were.
With the exception of the 392. Jeep has been one of the few brands thats kept reasonably above board despite the massive Stellantis mismanagement. Pricing does need a 20-30% drop but the whole company is already feeling the pinch from their greed.
I did not know they didn’t have rear pre tensioners this entire time that’s crazy
I think the safety improvements are borne out of the 4300lbs sled used for crash testing. That weight jump for the sled wrecked havoc on the majority of vehicles crash ratings.
Does the 2024 have lane centering with the adaptive cruise?
Full float 44 is a cool upgrade.
A good review of the product but I think any discussion of Jeep products is incomplete without talking about the ridiculous pricing . Jeep’s used to be so fun because they were affordable and accessible, now they’re being moved upscale which I (and many fans) think is a huge mistake. If it’s permanent, I hope Ford kicks their ass.😢
Thanks for the updates Jim (Farley)!
Does the rubicon with the xtreme recon package also get the full-float axle? Is the towing still 5000?
Still lose the mirrors when you pull the doors it appears?
The Wrangler has never done well in crash and rollover testing.
It will be interesting to see how it does now.
What about the leg room for the back seats of the Jeep Wrangler RUBICON. Has it been extended?.
The Wrangler is in its own class…keep on truckin’!
In its own class of what? Breaking down? I've travelled outside the US and have been due to my job in many remote places in south America, Africa and Asia. I've yet to seen a single Wrangler. You only ever see Land Cruisers and Hilux or old Defenders.
@@electrikoptik They ALL break down and have their Achilles Heels. No need to single out the Wrangler. Your Defender example was especially bad. If you work on cars, you would know.
@@electrikoptik apples to oranges…you’re comparing old Land Cruisers with new Wranglers? How many 2023 Defenders are out in “the brush” these days?
The Wrangler isn’t a truck/SUV (which comprise like 95% of new vehicles in the USA)!
@@JoJoJoker you’re missing the point buddy boy. The point is that outside the US nobody cares or respects Wrangles. The Land Cruisers I saw were mostly 70-series and 100-series with a couple of newer 200-series. The Land Rovers were all old series II and III.
@@electrikoptik how people view Wranglers is irrelevant to my statement. The Porsche 911 is also in a class of its own (as a rear-engined sports car) regardless of whether or not you like it.
Hopefully this Jeep won't roll over in the IIHS's Corner Crunch Test.
Do you folks consider dealership experience when purchasing? When buying new, I feel like between Ford and Jeep - the experience sucks on both sides.
Did they do anything to improve the weak t case clutch system in the 392 though?
Has the steering been fixed? It is the only complaint I have with my 2020.
Still have rusty door hinges?
of course. it's a feauture
Stoked for the new '24 Wrangler!
The most savage Geese
Thank you the savagegeese for your video: 2024 wrangler / major updates to safety and more
"This is a Wrangler, it's going to go offroad" AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Waiting for cx 90
Jeeps sales are TANKING right now. I don't think these updates are gonna help at all.
Always good to see Chris in videos. Nice change of pace
How much weight did they add to the vehicle? Did they increase spring rates?
The reason why I didn't buy a JL was the lack of the headroom. It's the same as JK, but because the transmission protrudes into the tub more, it's not possible to lower the seat by using new rails, the way I did in JK. I have a faint hope that the new electric seat goes lower, but frankly it's very faint. All those electric motors and gears have to go somewhere, so why would it be lower?
I’m wondering when the 2024 is available to order in Canada
Will the xtreme recon package be available on 2 door models?
any idea of the gear ratio in the JL willys 2024 ?
and what about the front axle in JL willys 2024 , does it have dana 44 in the front ?
Surface area of the dash improved for rubber duck displays?
Mark's churning these videos out. Quick someone give him Arby's!
The new 2024 grille design is great or even better than the 2023 grille design but I think Jeep should make a metal version of the 2024 wrangler grille. This would look good on the high altitude 4xe version of the wrangler. The older 2023 wrangler grille design worked well with the high altitude 4xe wrangler.
If i had access to that trail guide thingy in the screen i would be seriously considering trailbaiting bronco owners , if they have access to the same system 😂
5,000 lb tow is great for us who want to tow a travel trailer. To bad you can't get one with a stick (offered but none in USA Dealers)
Any refresh to the gladiator coming? Also it would be cool if Jeep worked with On X and provided a 3 year membership with any new Jeep purchase. I use that app more then Sirius lol
I don’t think they are. I’ve heard it’s discontinued here soon.
I understand that the doors and widhshielf is removable, but I do not understand that there is no versions where it is not.
It adds to the cost, limits space and makes interior noisy.
The lack of "ordinary version" limits sales abroad as well.
Why didn't Jeep use a wide-screen camera so the 12.3" screen doesn't turn into a 6" screen while using the camera?
It helps to have strong competition. Let’s see after 2 years of reliability reviews 😅
Jeez, this Jeep guy seems SO excited for the “new” wrangler that he oversaw. Lol
Why the mid-cycle refresh and improvements you ask?? BRONCO. That's why. BRONCO!! :)
I would not trade my bulletproof 2015 Xterra Pro-4X for a Stellantis pile. Zero issues in 8 years!
Your son is great on camera. Future Goose Host!
Considering the demise of shopping malls I don’t understand where people who buy these things are driving them?
"We listen to our customers"
Yet no angry eyes from factory smh
Because they look stupid. The aftermarket has you covered if you want to make your car look like a cartoon character.
Sage green I love it
At around $40k, these make sense as a fun toy. At $60K+, it's only for rich guys and stupid kids who live with their parents.
Any update on reliability???????
Does it still blind all incoming drivers? Yes!
They said that in 2021.
Still rolled over.
Oh no.. all these improvements mean this must now retail in the 200k range
"We listened to the customers. We listened to journalists..." lol that is such BS. If it wasn't for the Bronco, AC and Apple CarPlay/Android Auto might still be an option. Jeep is starting to feel the pressure of offering more because now they have competition. You can't just say "it's a Jeep thing" now to make excuses for the Wrangler.
My nurse girlfriend will appreciate the microphone array when she needs to call her yoga coach for a private lesson at his house while I'm out of town.
That's cute she goes to Maleek
Is eletric hybird jeep only 10$ charge for 300miles?
I remember folks saying the Bronco wouldn't be any competition...