HOW TO? | rMotion & rMotionX | 5 STEPS To Setting Up Ski-Doo X-RS Suspension
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ก.ค. 2024
- Sledaddicz Mike and Jesse walk you through how to set up your suspension on a new X-RS. They go through 5 easy steps to get your machine handling the way you want it to!
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Awesome vid, keep it up
Thanks dude! Really appreciate the support. More vids coming soon! (Next one tomorrow!)
Thanks , just purchased a used 2020 Renegade X with 2400km . This vid helped me a lot !
Glad to hear that man! Congrats on the new sled!! Cheers, Jesse
Thanks I’ll look into it
Love your vids of Cochrane
Thanks so much and please subscribe if you haven't already! Lots more riding vids coming! Mike
I get on all my machines fully geared up with a full tank and anything else I carry in my bags .
Makes a difference!
Yup! That's exactly why we put it one setting higher on the spring preload, which is as high as it gets on stock springs. Thanks for tuning in! Cheers, Jesse
Nice!
Thanks!
You guys should really check out Accelerated Technologies so that you set up front sag on your machine as well, It's really important and your sled will be much safer and corner better. Normal angle on front a arms is around 16 degrees, you want to lower that angle to lower centre of gravity. When all is set up when you raise and lower back of sled track will touch flat. Most don't they have the front of track touching first, which makes your sled unstable. Sorry for the essay but I think it's really important. I thought I had mine set up perfect until I took It to Accelerated and John explained. Made a world of difference. And you still get full shock travel.
Yep! Our buddy Andrew got a fully spec'ed out elka stage 3 suspension from John and its awesome! Thanks for your input. John and the accelerated team are great! Cheers,
Jesse
Great video. Just what I was looking for. Question, the general consensus I get from others is to adjust one thing at a time. If that is the case and you have everything is at full soft then would you start with the center shock or the rear for steering and weight transfer? Bear with me, I’m still looking for my optimal set up to still be able to lift the front end but still have the cornering. I know there is a happy medium somewhere. Thanks!
Thanks Brian. I would adjust that front track shock to get steering the way you want it and yes there is a happy medium adjusting it. You want just enough bite but light steering is what I normally aim for. For transfer, just leave the rear blocks on 1. If you have a 21 or 22, you can also try adjusting the arm for more transfer as well. Cheers, Mike
Thanks man, I appreciate your response. Got my springs set, and everything at softest clicks on the clickers. A lot of play when leaning side to side but hopefully with a little dialing in I will get it just where I like it. Front arm is already changed to the more transfer position. Ride safe!!
Question for you… I have a 2019 gt 900ace non turbo I find it pushes and doesn’t bite in corners. Carbides are good shape no studs (yet) front ski shocks (springs) set a 5 the hardest
I’m 5’10 190lbs but sometimes ride with another adult on the back
What would you start with ?
Hey Happy Camper! I'd try a set of Bergstroms 6" triple points. That's what we run and they are awesome in all conditions. Mike
Was on kijiji today, see both you boys are in the market for some new rides. Anyone going the Mach route or staying with the 850's. Don't let me be a spoiler tho
Its a secret ☺
@@sledaddicz great answer 👍 ill be waiting. I'm.a sidewinder guy and see Finally T CATS got power steering hmm like the apex go figure. Not a ski doo again yet but the mach obviously got me attention. R motion is the best suspension in the business hands down
@@mikecrevier4686 100%. Some great stuff happening for next season for sure but nothing beats the ride of an rmotion hands down. Stay tuned! Mike.
I have a 2022 Renegade X and have adjusted my suspension to where I like it. Working really well but the one challenge I have is the rear snow flap seems high off the ground when I am on it 5". With the engine temp on gauge all the time I am more aware of how hot the sled is running. 42-60 degree's C. Is this too hot and is the snow flap height ok I am a big guy 6 foot 1" and 230 lbs. Track is a 1.5" ice ripper. Thanks in advance....love the content.
Awesome and thanks for watching! Mike
Hey Shaun. Are u running an an 850 or 900? Snow flap height is fine. An 850 optimal temp is around 43.. 50 to 60 degrees is running hot. Cheers, Jesse
We have 4 RenX 600r 2022, and when temp is above 50C, it's because of ice accumulation in the skid tunnel thus blocking the radiators from getting fresh snow. It was the same issue with our 2020 RenX 600r. Sometimes you can get 40 pounds of ice accumulation inside the skid tunnel. This is a G4 design problem especially when riding 350-450 km a day on a 2500 km vacation trip. Ride safe Ride sober ✌
@@sledaddicz Hello Mike sorry for the slow reply. 850 ETEC. I do run 42-45 in most conditions but in areas with low snow (road running-Hate doing it) and or super hard packed I saw it creep up to 50 and a couple of times to 60. Saw the reply from Guy P don't think snow build up twas my issue with snow under tunnel but will keep an eye......
Do you setup you’re front ski spacers for full wide stance?
Yes, full wide. Cheers, Mike
Nice video. 2 comments, 1) the sled should be completely level on the ground before you set the sag. I think you did, but then show the sled on the wheels. 2) is more of my preference on front sag at 1-2". You don't need a rider on the sled, but I feel is my good starting point
Yup! When we measured the sag we had all the dollys off and sled flat on ground. And good point on the front sag. Everyone has their own balance. We were just trying to give a general stance on what most choose to set it as.
Now when you say no more give in the center front spring you mean up and down or wiggle left and right?
You loosen off to the point where you can wiggle it right to left and then add just enough pressure until you can no longer wiggle. Mike.
@@sledaddicz ok thanks thats just starting point right? If I back off the preload I will get more ski pressure correct? I just bought my first snowmoblie an its a 2021 renagade x 600r an im having some pushing issues in the turns
@@johnnycash7803 Yes. This is your starting point which will give you more weight on your skis and then add preload (tighten it) to reduce ski pressure. I dont typically have very much preload on it which gives me optimal steering. I also have a 600r and have found snowtrackers to work really well on it. Its not as heavy as the 850 so this is a good solution I am finding. Mike
@@sledaddicz thanks for the reply man! Can you hook me up with a link for the carbide your using? Will they fit mine. I'm sorry this is all very new to me.
The carbides are distributed through Kimpex. In Canada, we get ours from Royal Distributing. I would just google to see who has them if you are in the US. They are the Snowtracker Semi Aggressive carbides. Cheers, Mike.
Do u guys switch to a heavier spring?
Hey Dino! Great question. The answer depends on your sled habits - are you buying a new sled and running it for multiple seasons? trading in every year? buying a used sled? For us, because we are trading every year, we just up the preload on the rear spring to 4 or 5 and it is just the right among of rear sag for our weight. Having said that, the higher the preload on the spring, the sooner it wears out and needs to be replaced. So if I was keeping my sled for 3 seasons, I would definitely switch to the heavier spring. Because I am trading in yearly, popping it up to 4 or 5 does the job perfectly, doesn't cost me money, and I don't have to worry about longevity. Cheers, Jesse
When setting up sag should you give the sled a few hops to get the sled to settle them measure the ride height?
Yes. I get it to sit flat and pull up the rear so shock fully extends and then let it sit/sag on its on. Cheers, Mike
No, do not hop on the sled after you get on. That will artificially compress the suspension and give a false sag measurement. Get on and sit normally like he did in the video. Cheers!
@@joetech4054 it won't give you a false measurement it gives you the correct trail sag for your ride height as you trail ride.and that's how we set it on race day for my supercross guys
@@denniswilder3014 I’ve always used the “do not bounce” method because that’s what l learned from service manuals and friends when setting up dirt bikes, street bikes, even mountain bikes. Nevertheless, your comment got me thinking and l went out to the garage and tried it both ways on my sled. Guess what? It didn’t make a significant difference either way. It sagged about 1/4” more when l bounced on it but that is probably just because a snowmobile skid has more stiction than other suspension systems. I’m 51 and still learning new things every day!
I am 200 lbs. 230 lbs with gear. I have always swapped out the center shock tender to a stiff one for my weight from Monster Performance. Or go with a complete spring setup from Hygear.
You can do that forsure. We trade up every year so by putting our preload to 4 or 5 we are within 2.5 to 3 inches of travel when sitting. Cheers, Jesse
I checked my track alignment it's off to one side by 16th of an inch shoul I mess with getting closer on alignment or is that fine? Neither side is touching the skid
That's not too bad. I like them to be as equal as possible by looking at the track clips. Biggest thing is them not touching skid so you are probably good. Make sure tension is set properly too - 20lbs is good. Cheers, Mike
@@sledaddicz thanks
isnt sag supposed to be adjusted with the rider in full gear not sweat pants?
That's correct! We went to the next number up to account for that :) Cheers, Jesse
Can I do the same for our 2024 Expy SE with 2 riders?
Absolutely!
@@sledaddicz ok great, thanks! We got our trail permit holder from you guys. Where did you get your big Ski Doo poster you have in your garage? I want to get one for my garage.
@@user-df7mg5xb3pthanks for the support! We got our banner custom made actually. The guys from fleetimage out of kitchener do an awesome job! Cheers, Jesse
Good video,but to set the sag you have to be fully dressed In what you wear when out riding . Plus have all your gear on sled that you’d normally take with you. That stuff can easily add up to 25 more pounds then the way you did it.
You should also set your front sag to be Atleast 2” when sitting on it fully dressed.
Agreed! We actually set the spring one higher then we showed in the vid to account for extra weight of gear.
Jason’s right , put your gear on , all of it.
Easily 50lbs.
Sled should be flat on ground.
@@snowmobilingpodcastgordava3226 sled was flat on ground when measuring sag. And we put the spring a full setting higher to account for gear weight
Okayyy...relax their giving a general idea how to set it up. 🙄
New sleds are pretty stiff out o the crate. If you weigh more than 180-200 lb without your gear on and intend on carry bags a passenger or a fuel caddy replace the factory torsion springs with heavier torsion springs.
I had a good chat with my dealer today on this topic. While they are stiff, they aren't coming with springs that are a one-size fits all. The springs are too soft for bigger guys like us and should be swapped out immediately. Next season both sleds will get stiffer springs to help. Mike
@@sledaddicz really improved your range when your saddled or if you ever 2 up. Sled rides way better too. Not so easy to bottom.
Doing this in a 70 degree garage defeats the purpose of real world results like snow and ice stuck in the tunnel and freezing temps so these settings would be different then. No?
This is mainly to set up your machine at the beginning of the season. We have ridden them for years and are recommending what we think is ideal in real world conditions. Thanks,
Jesse
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Hey Gino! What are you referring to? Cheers, Jesse