Interview with Dr. Josef Witt-Doerring
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ค. 2023
- Dr. Josef Witt-Doerring is a board certified psychiatrist and former FDA medical officer who specializes in the treatment of psychiatric adverse drug reactions. In this video, he interviews me about my experience within the psychiatric system as well as my protracted withdrawal from SSRI and benzodiazepine medications.
Psych drug injury is literal torture.
Yes. My cousin was telling me about some natural tea that target sells called yogi detox. I wonder if this will help us a bit. I have taken so many herbal supplements and at first none made a dent. I lost faith, then ashwanda began helping a bit, just a bit, allowing me a breather even for a few minutes. Right now I also added some gummies for stress that have Gaba and Lemon balm. But man this is so horrific at times even some herbal stuff made the anxiety worse. I will give the detox tea a try. I am even scared of it as anything can set this off. For sleep.there has been absolutely nothing that works for me to keep me asleep in peace. Nor anything for the pressure/pain on my chest to go away. 😭
It's used as population control.
It’s Hell!!!
I’m so scared!! Haven’t even started. 😢I’m on 2 benzos x 12 yrs and 3 antidepressants. I’m not going to do them both at the same time!! But regardless….i need so much support I’m hearing. Ty everyone & Matt!
I commented on one of your other views as well. I wanted to add this warning here for others now that we are in the age of using marijuana as “medicine.” I am a board certified emergency physician who bought into this. In my field you need to switch back and forth from night to day shifts quite often. I bought into medicinal marijuana being a perfect “natural” way to get sleep and switch my schedule. I was using it for several years. When I quit within 2 days I was experiencing nearly all the symptoms you talk about. Soul crushing anxiety, sensitive to everything, light, sounds , noises were like gunshots, adrenaline rushes. Severe insomnia, waking from sleep in extreme fight or flight, tingling arms and legs, tinnitus, brain fog and cognitive issues, the lost goes on and on. I had severe akathisia as well. I’m month 8 now. Have been out of work all 8 months and no idea when I’ll be able to go back. I’d guess after 8 months I’m maybe 25-30 percent back. Marijuana is natural but it’s a chemical binding to a receptor. It’s going to produce dependency. I was gaslit and there is a whole community of others experiencing this as well. Much like you said. I have endured pure unadulterated hell for 8 months now. Curled up in a ball crying sobbing and suicidal. And it doesn’t stop. So be careful with marijuana, specifically high THC dispensary marijuana it can produce a syndrome identical to SSRI/benzo withdrawal.
Im so sorry. I have tried CBD gummies without the THC and perhaps because of the severe state I am in, it caused me more anxiety and agony.
@@madelynhernandez7453t’s wild because in the SSRI/AD world people are often told “it’s just your original depression/anxiety coming back.” I had none of that. No psych history ever. And me quitting weed literally caused 100 percent of my symptoms. I was told that early on too. “Marijuana was masking your problems.” Wait so the 2-3 hits off a bowl I took before bed was masking my symptoms? What about the 90 percent of my day when I wasn’t high? Either way there is zero education on this. When I was in med school and residency training none of this was mentioned even once. I’d be willing to bet things were the same for Dr Witt Doerring. I was taught that antideprssants are well tolerated, a small portion of people have sexual side effects and some people will have more severe withdrawal but it lasts a few months max and is rarely severe. I’ve actually had to hide all of this from my colleagues and tell everyone I have long covid because nobody believes my symptoms are real.
@@user-lj7te4je6lhow are you feeling now? I really hope that you are healing. ❤️🩹
Matt. You’re so brave and tuff. And vulnerable. I’ve been trying to get off SSRIs for many years. The discontinuation syndrome has gotten worse and I thought it was relapse. I’m in the middle of hell and reinstated the drug again. Hoping it will bring me back to baseline as I can’t live like this. These drugs are prescribed like candy. The OxyContin crisis pales next to the psych Med damage. Pharma creates patients for life
Please keep us informed
Listening to your story and others is what helps me keep going. Unfortunately, I don’t have a support system to rely on while going through this. It’s a very lonely and isolating experience to go through. I’m sorry that you are still struggling with symptoms. Hoping better days are ahead for those of us going through this hell.
I’m sorry you’re in it too. I hope you’re able to find people to connect with in the community who validate your experience. I’m here for you!
I feel the same way. It's so horrific. Ive just become a burden to everybody and I need people, someone with me 24/7 now the most. I don't even trust myself to be alone. Alone just feels more despairing too. Even though others dont understand, it feels nice when someone is empathetic and there. In my case I am literally having back to back horrific panic attacks, I get extremely suicidal and I need another human there to at least hold my hand and see me through. When Im all alone I have even ran out and just like a mad woman banged on neighbors doors. Needles to say these are all impulses of my agony. Then its soul crushing when no one answers because they are scared and they dont understand it literally means life or death to me. Anyway, sending you hugs, I am so sorry this marijuana put you in this state.
@@madelynhernandez7453 just to clarify: marijuana did not put me in this state, psych drugs did. I was saying marijuana gave me anxiety as a teenager which led me to getting on the psych meds. I’m sorry you’re in so much pain too. Sending you love.
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Same. Hugs to u all
Matt you are brilliant!!! You hit the mail on the head about society’s version of what we should be and what we should not be otherwise we get a label. Thank you Sir 🙏🏻🥰
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The way Matt is explaining about being on a psych ward @17.12. Quite by accident I watched a film a few nights ago called 55 Steps,stars of this film is Helena Bonham -Carter and Hilary Swank,brought me to tears.I won't say too much about it other than this patient also knew her medications were making her very ill and none of the staff or Drs would listen to her complaints about the symptoms she was suffering with.
I have ptsd from psych wards. The therapist actually had to tell my parents to stop admitting me because it was going to cause me to out myself. My parents do it out of desperation but it is so horrifc. You can't even cry loud cause they want to inject you. I have really bad GERD which makes the anxiety worse and I would beg for antacids and I was never given any but I was given drugs I did not ask nor consent to. This system needs to stop. The horrors of psychiatry have never truly stopped.
Describing the difference in your perception of the amount of horror we could actually experience is so spot on.
I can relate to that inner knowing whispering something is not right, and still ignoring it for too much time... And later reach a desperate point where it's impossible to ignore it anymore because it's a profound, intense scream from the soul that pushes you to listen to your instinct and jump into the unknown... It has been one of the major lessons of my life, to be brave enough to follow my intuition and stop being a dormant. I'm still trying to forgive myself for entering this rabbit hole. So much time and life force just wasted... It's so sad. Thank you for sharing your story, best of wishes 🌻
Amazing Matt , So important to warn people, I was sucked into this pill system , damaged & gaslit ! Side effects same as you & the struggle is truely horrendous. My prescriptions started from having migraines, they became ten times worse caused by drug prescription & before I knew it I was stuck in a loop for years . I feel your a blessing to speak on this in full understanding!Specially for your age group 😢. As you know it’s something we don’t see coming as our trust is given to those that claim these medications are safe when they are sooo not ! 🌱🕊️🌱🕊️🌱🕊️🌱🌳
It’s all guess work. Run as fast as you can from all psychiatrists and drugs.
My psychiatrist who is about to retire told me this. We give you different meds and then see how you react to it. We don't really know how they work. His exact words.
Thank you both with all my heart. I don’t know how this showed up again, but thank you. Every word Matt is saying is identical to my experience. It was very important to me to listen to his story again. I’ve shared it with two close family members, and Dr My sister who is a occupational therapist now watches your videos. They help me so very much. You’re a good kind person and pioneer for doing the work and helping all of us. Thank you Matt I am now supscribed to your channel. God bless you both.
Matt Marin has a great series of video on TH-cam. Anyone with chronic akathisia should watch them.
📝: He makes me feel guilty I haven’t done the same. You should have me on next! 😬 From international boarding schools and electrical engineering to being a young chronic pain patient. When I was put on Prozac in ‘94, I was 19 yrs old. It was on the cover of Newsweek in the office waiting room being touted as a miracle happy pill. I got immediate reactions but was told to push through. Soon I was soaking the bed 3X/night. I was unknowingly experiencing my first significant bouts of akathisia. I went on to miss 56 days of class hiding in my car. I had to quit wrestling despite being a champion wrestler. I went onto college and the pain had me seeking surgeries. I eventually was put on pain meds and tried on all kinds of nerve pain meds and had over 50 nerve blocks. I thought that I just had a “bad wrist” and was having difficulty writing. I thought that I had a “bad knee” and had difficulty walking, when was all tardive dystonia erupting.
I was a pain patient three significant times over these medications injuries before a final benzo injury had me realize medications could do this. Nearly 30 years of medications, including four pain clinics, and no one told that this could happen. Thankfully, I was such a regimented and educated patient, my doctors had to believe me. They also work doing opiate replacement therapies and see all sorts of drugs addicts. Statistically 40% of their patients have an associated benzo and they had never seen a benzo injury like mine.
I dunno even know how to feel about that? Chronic akathisia, tardive dystonia, TD in my face/tongue, extreme tinnitus, crushing nerve pain…Lucky me?
I have SO MUCH respect for you in all the pain you have survived. I experience much of it right now and I get you!!!! NO ONE knows the pain and terror and torture unless they try it. God bless you and ALL who experience this. Keep in faith that it WILL be better!!! That is all we have!
People don't realize how bad things can get. Remember, it's not the doctor and his/her mind at stake, it's your mind at stake. Ppl don't realize that some of the withdrawal and side-effect symptoms can feel like literal torture.
I can relate to a lot of what this guy is talking about, only I tapered Kpin and I'm tapering them again, but I did get off Methadone 120mg, Vyvanse, Lyrica, Latuda, Cymbalta, Celexa, and I'm finish up a couple final meds and vices.
I do not care for the way this doctor would often times not pay attention, cut you off, and smile during inappropriate times.. I am beyond grateful you did this interview but sorry that you had to be responded to that way.. you're helping so many people hold on and have hope. Thank you so much ❤
I just found your chanel from Dr. Josefs interview. I did not even understand what was happening fully until now! I'm so glad you are talking about this.. Literally your story I was absolutely blown away how similar it was to what I went through. Absolutely the most hellish walk to take! Yet I totally understand how much it pushed me to heal and form an ever deeper connection to myself and the Divine 🙏 this just helped me piece so much together!! And has brought me a sense of peace that I didn't know I even needed. Ty so much!
You describe the toxic naps/sleep so well. That symptom alone would drive anyone crazy. You really describe the indescribable so well
good to see that you've posted more content.
Matt, this is such a poweful interview. I am do sorry this happened to you, me and so many others. Thank you for your ciurage. Thsbk you for your passion. Good luck
Thanks for speaking up. I’m so angry at psychiatry for the neurological damage I’m enduring from this mess, I do struggle with acceptance. Ive reported the SSRI I was on but let me tell you it wasn’t enough I think I might want to set my psychiatrist’s house on fire… so he’ll have an idea of what burning feels like ? :,) kidding. But seriously. I feel like we’re victims of a very out dated boomer / capitalist med industry when all we deserved was shrooms enlightenment srsly… 2 years off, still feeling broken. Healing at the slowest speed humanely possible. Courage to us 😮💨🐌🐌🐌
A Very enlightening and relevant conversation !
Well said Matt, brilliant points of view.
Great video
Thanks
If you have a diagnosis of bipolar disorder, antidepressants can cause mania, hypomania or a mixed state and anxiety and insomnia can start as a result. it can be very difficult to diagnose bipolar 2 because the hypomanias can feel like a very good day and nobody goes to the doctor to complain about a very good day.
I wish I could talk to this doctor. Martin is so lucky.
@@Heymattmarinahaa sorry Matt see how my brain is. I meshed your name with your last name. Thanks for noticing my post.
Also Matt, I am not sleeping, I feel horror. I am jolted awake as soon as I fall asleep and I am in full panic, horror, akathesia. I take off running, I behave so weird. I feel horror. Will this lift? 😭 I am going second to second but not sleeping is killing me too.
@@madelynhernandez7453 I know the spot you’re in so well. It does pass and it will pass. It doesn’t feel possible when you’re in it but it just will. It’s so unfair how long it takes. Please keep going.
@@Heymattmarin Thanks. ❤️ I watch your videos and they give me hope.
@@madelynhernandez7453 I’m glad ❤️ that’s the intention!
@@HeymattmarinHey Matt is there a way I can talk to you? This non sleeping thing is torture. I have been feeling it for over 6 months now. When will it stop. I am sui over this yet scared of death and feel so stuck. I need someone to talk to.
Seroquel was a vicious drug for me. I would pace abd pace and cry and cry. I would tell my husband I am so wired BUT tired sbd my body hurts. I just learned it was Akathisia. I had Akathisia for years. Its much better now.
How long before the akathisia (mental especially) went away?
Matt, your experience is mine and you described akathisia perfectly. I'm sometimes still in denial that it's what im experiencing. I would love to join in on these conversations or know how to connect
I’m so sorry you’re going through it too. Please keep going. I would suggest starting by making videos about your experience and uploading them to TH-cam. Get your experience out there, if you’re comfortable of course. Sending you so much love.
Wow i know what's happening with me.i understand now.im going through this shxt.
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The drug dealers change their tune as soon as you have a question because they don't know the answer and they are too insecure to say, "I don't know".
How often do you have your Akathisia waves now? Also how’s your sleep now?Thanks for interview.
It’s all over the place. I’ll have a week straight then it’ll go away for a bit. It jumps around a lot. My sleep is way better than it used to be. I get 6-8 hrs a night usually.
@@Heymattmarin that’s so good at least you have some time to rest now. Thanks 🙏🏻
@@martinez4560 I am not sleeping at all. I keep being jolted awake in full horror mode. Beyond any panic attack. I became desperate and sui. The doctors who gave us toxic drugs need to take them themselves..
@@madelynhernandez7453these drugs paralyzed my left side of body. Its 16 months now I am on bed always . Cant sit walk more than 4 min without pain . Ny mri says spinal cord damage and symptoms also r worse lik nerves damage in my left hand n leg. I can't even lift a spoon without shaking . I feel at 39 I am paralyzed n tried all medications physiotherapy. I am written off by my own ppl. I am suicidal everyday I can't kill myself also I have a 6 year old son. I dono where to go. My doctor gave this for anxiety. These drugs trapped me in my body. I am going to give up soon I ve no way to carry on this 😢
@@madelynhernandez7453mmhh same. They should have to take them locked in jail
Literal hell, then you go into purgatory. Keep walking.
Have you ever had your thyroid checked?
Yeah a few times. Always came back normal.
@@Heymattmarin Are you sure everything was normal on the lab report?
@@svetlanaivnitskaya3504 yes
Iv been in a mental hospital also and the staff was awful. They would laugh and make fun of patients
I’m sorry. I’m not surprised though. Psych wards are hell prisons.
Love your story brother ❤
What dose of Klonopin were you on?