Dr. Josef Witt-Doerring: Benzos, Antidepressants, Protracted Withdrawal & the FDA

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    Guest bio: Dr. Josef Witt-Doerring is a board-certified psychiatrist who runs a private practice that specializes in helping patients safely discontinue psychiatric medications. Dr. Witt-Doerring interest in psychiatric drug withdrawal developed after he began researching the clinical experience of protracted withdrawal on the online withdrawal communities.
    Dr. Witt-Doerring completed his psychiatry residency at Baylor College of Medicine and a fellowship in psychiatric drug development at Janssen Research & Development. Dr. Witt-Doerring, has also worked as a Medical Officer, at the FDA’s Division of Psychiatry Products. His broad experience in clinical, pharmaceutical, and regulatory settings, gives him a comprehensive understanding of risks and benefits of psychiatric medications.
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    Dr. Witt Doerring's website, where he practices with his wife, Marissa Witt-Doerring, M.D.: www.wittdoerringpsychiatry.com
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    RELEVANT LINKS:
    Article, “Online Communities for Drug Withdrawal: What Can We Learn?”: www.psychiatrictimes.com/view...
    Article, “Breaking Off My Chemical Romance”: www.thenation.com/article/soc...
    Dr. Witt-Doerring’s testimony for the Massachusetts Benzo Bill: • Josef Witt-Doerring, M...

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  • @MedicatingNormal
    @MedicatingNormal  ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Dr. Witt-Doerring has a TH-cam channel now - go subscribe! www.youtube.com/@witt-doerringpsychiatry

    • @shirksa1
      @shirksa1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How can I find a coach to help with tapering and withdrawal/protracted withdrawal for Effexor?

    • @MedicatingNormal
      @MedicatingNormal  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shirksa1 There are a few:
      chrispaigelcsw.com
      baylissa.com

    • @davidsplan4409
      @davidsplan4409 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is a rough time of year especially if hospitalized and missing bills and appointments.

    • @stevekaylor5606
      @stevekaylor5606 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MedicatingNormal Also - Peter Breggin

  • @upendasana7857
    @upendasana7857 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    OMG it is such a relief and pleasure to hear from psychiatrists like him.This why question as to why a psychiatrist like him is actually able to intellectually challenge things or sense when things are off with the usual psychiatric dogma.
    I think those of us who have experience with psychiatrists and the system as a whole know the "safe"people like him who have genuine inquiry and concern towards their patients and those who are ona complete and utter ego trip and just want to unstintingly follow their psych dogma and actually are avoiding and blind to theor own personal issues.
    Its the ones who are honest enough with themselves to know how fragile their own mental health might be at times and to recognise that many of the patients they see are not that different to them but with ceertain situations and events that they themselves could just as easily be in that position.
    Psychiatrists like him are exactly what we need,we need more and more of them and its sad that they still are so rare.
    Bring it on and thank you once again for having such psychiatrists as this on.We need more of them !! Shame on all the others who don't ask questions and fail their patients over and over again.

    • @jessicabasurto9485
      @jessicabasurto9485 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Unfortunately they charge so much to help you taper off. 13k is too much 😢

    • @stevekaylor5606
      @stevekaylor5606 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Standard of Care psychiatrists are pessimistic-Freudian ideologues - who market people via disease-like labels and neurotoxic drugs, to become cash cows!

  • @Afura33
    @Afura33 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Glad to see that there are still some doctors out there that are able to look outside the box :)

    • @stevekaylor5606
      @stevekaylor5606 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Able to look outside the Psychopathology axioms - and help people "Produce themselves" - as Marianne Williamson says!

    • @Afura33
      @Afura33 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@stevekaylor5606 👍

  • @kristeandreatujague7016
    @kristeandreatujague7016 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "Most people get better over time is what I see" Doctor 💙
    Exactly. 🤗🤗🤗

    • @ajax700
      @ajax700 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Most get PSSD life long.
      Probably more than 50% of people developing PSSD.
      Happy histories these are not.
      Best wishes.

  • @brendansmyth5053
    @brendansmyth5053 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Im glad to hear this news from Australia 🇦🇺 I’m a survivor of PAWS and doing great mostly. I’m 3.9 years protracted. Cymbalta is the devil and Doctors are uneducated in slow, safe tapering methods.

    • @wallybingbang4350
      @wallybingbang4350 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I'm withdrawing from Cymbalta. Evil bastards to prescribe me that drug knowing my negative history with antidepressants.

    • @brendansmyth5053
      @brendansmyth5053 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@wallybingbang4350 sorry to hear mate. Keep going. Healing takes time. Be good to yourself 🙏🏻

    • @kiwi5162
      @kiwi5162 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Dr. Peter Breggin's book "Psychiatric Drug Withdrawal"

  • @idesigncutethings2196
    @idesigncutethings2196 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Following to spread awareness

  • @andywilson5677
    @andywilson5677 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thanks for doing these interviews. The questions asked are always really well thought out. Great work.

  • @garyvann4678
    @garyvann4678 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent as always by Dr. Josef. Hopefully Medicating Normal and he will address what to do to develop psychotherapy skills as the pills are tapered- eliminated. This is where Mindfully Based Cognitive Therapy, Dialectical BT, Marital Therapy, Acceptance and Commitment Tx and Internal Family Systems, among others come in
    When the patient says to the Doctor Im depressed ..the response needs to be."What are you depressed or anxious about?" Then refer out for non-drug psychological treatment.

    • @stevekaylor5606
      @stevekaylor5606 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, when someone is depressed or anxious - have an intense conversation with him and work out some improvements. This was the approach of Harry Stack Sullivan, through the 1950s. Then enlist him in happy clapping, stomping and laughing classes. This non-drug therapy is a Laughter Yoga approach to enthusing the subconscious!

  • @Q1776Q
    @Q1776Q 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great interview!!!

  • @vikasgupta1828
    @vikasgupta1828 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks

  • @stevekaylor5606
    @stevekaylor5606 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mental health is the development of a mental + emotional dedication, a cathexis!

  • @kellyedahlgreen8070
    @kellyedahlgreen8070 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    OMG I am withdrawing now..... I'm going to share my story with you as soon as I can. 14 years alprolazam 1 mg a day.... Second time coming off cold turkey....

    • @mysticmardi
      @mysticmardi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good for you. Ten years clean myself and like the hostess of this broadcast I still get symptoms. But they had me on for 24 years

  • @shawnacees8633
    @shawnacees8633 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wondering if the Dr is referring to Ketamine for people who are off their Benzo or is it ok while tapering and in tolerance wd?

  • @AlbaLynxQueen
    @AlbaLynxQueen ปีที่แล้ว +18

    It's so sad that doctors over prescribe these drugs. They do a lot of damage

    • @stevekaylor5606
      @stevekaylor5606 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Destructive - while doctors claim to be 'helping!'

  • @jaimeeporter577
    @jaimeeporter577 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm just looking for a little more answers because im in the dark about this. My boyfriend was put on clonazepam for 7 months and was not told much of anything and especially was not told if he wanted to discontinue it he needed to come back ans slowly taper of it. I should mention he was prescribed it for insomnia and to jelp manage his anxiety. Shortly before we got together he went off it completely cold turkey. He is now having serious side affects from grand mal seizures, severe aniexty, not wanting to eat, tremors and the list goes on. And also for whatever reason he had been five years sober and shortly after starting the clonazepam he has relapsed with drinking. I am just trying to see what i can do to get him the best help and asking as many questions as i can since this is new to me. This is very hard to watch because he's literally become a shell of who he used to be.

    • @MedicatingNormal
      @MedicatingNormal  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You might start by reading The Ashton Manual

    • @stevekaylor5606
      @stevekaylor5606 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MedicatingNormal Work toward Psychiatric abolition!

  • @1littleway
    @1littleway 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How do I get in touch with Dr. Wit-Doerring?

    • @MedicatingNormal
      @MedicatingNormal  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hi, the link to his website is in the video description!

  • @Q1776Q
    @Q1776Q 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The appropriate word for Benzo Withdrawal is ... BRAIN AND CNS DAMAGE

    • @stevekaylor5606
      @stevekaylor5606 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Tardive Dyskinesia; 2nd Degree Assault!

  • @craftygirl17
    @craftygirl17 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Where can I find the movie Medicating Normal in Canada?

    • @MedicatingNormal
      @MedicatingNormal  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Sandy,
      Not sure where you're located, but if you'd like to attend an IN-PERSON screening, there's one happening on June 10 in Calgary: events.ucalgary.ca/obrien/#!view/event/event_id/405849 Please only register if you plan to attend, as seats are limited.
      If you want to rent the film, you can do so via Vimeo: vimeo.com/ondemand/medicatingnormal

    • @stevekaylor5606
      @stevekaylor5606 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MedicatingNormal Not in Canada's MAID Act, like Tiergarten 4!

  • @rachelleshadley7143
    @rachelleshadley7143 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there a medicine to help besides benzo withdrawels

  • @thesaint9276
    @thesaint9276 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I went cold turkey off Xanax 16 months ago. I’ve developed mild agoraphobia and can no longer drive on freeways. My symptoms are getting better as time goes on but the freeway problem is getting worse. Has anyone else developed phobias like this? I used to love driving and have driven all over the country. Now I have to take surface streets.

    • @MedicatingNormal
      @MedicatingNormal  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have this. Sadly, it is common for benzo wd. -Nicole

    • @thesaint9276
      @thesaint9276 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MedicatingNormal how long have you had it? Does it ever go away?

    • @MedicatingNormal
      @MedicatingNormal  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thesaint9276 I have seen it resolve in many people who healed. I have had it for a very long time, but I also was cold-turkey'ed off of many meds.

    • @thesaint9276
      @thesaint9276 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MedicatingNormal oh great 🤦‍♂️. Well I wish you the best, thanks

    • @MedicatingNormal
      @MedicatingNormal  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thesaint9276 you as well. Hang in there!

  • @palm3rfishman
    @palm3rfishman ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When was this recorded? I'm curious about the date....

    • @MedicatingNormal
      @MedicatingNormal  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      May 2022

    • @stevekaylor5606
      @stevekaylor5606 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MedicatingNormal Too bad there is so much remedy seeking - for iatrogenic machinations!

  • @user-ww5ui4fd9n
    @user-ww5ui4fd9n ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I had a adverse reaction to 3 doses of ssri (Lex) 7 months ago. I wish I could hear of cases that have recovered from this as there aren’t many. I’ve maybe come across a handful. I feel as if I’ve had a set back and currently in a terrible wave. I hear so much about the benzo community, and those struggling with tapering or ct’ing anti-d’s, but what about us who only took a few doses? I refuse to take any meds. No supplements, no otc meds.. nothing. I suffer through the migraines and all the other symptoms because this has been so traumatic. I’ve never felt so much fear in all my life. I would love your input on this!

    • @kristengray5668
      @kristengray5668 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey, how are you now?? I hope better! I’m going through the same thing right now, wasn’t on Lexapro but a week and before that I did a week and a half of Clonazepam. Have had burning skin sensation throughout my body since then, 6 months now. I am better than I was a few months ago, but not there yet.

    • @user-ww5ui4fd9n
      @user-ww5ui4fd9n ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kristengray5668 hey! I’m 13 months out and still going through it unfortunately. I caught cvd 2 months ago and it set me back pretty bad. I have severe insomnia, terrible anxiety (chemical), racing thoughts and really bad adrenaline/cortisol surges throughout the night. I am better than I was since beginning but I’m still bad off. I feel if my sleep would come back I would ok to handle the rest of it. Happy to hear you are doing better! Just takes time

    • @kristengray5668
      @kristengray5668 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@user-ww5ui4fd9n good to hear you’re somewhat better too! This honestly has been so tough/scary and I can’t even believe all this happened from not a long time use. Here’s to continued healing!

    • @user-ww5ui4fd9n
      @user-ww5ui4fd9n ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@kristengray5668 it’s truly a traumatic experience! I hear most people start to feel better around 18-24 months (some sooner, some later) but the vast majority. I’m praying we all get through this!!

    • @Slidehhy
      @Slidehhy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@user-ww5ui4fd9nhow are you now ??

  • @jmartin5888
    @jmartin5888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    has anyone ttried sinemet for benzo pain?

    • @ENJIMEEREBAY
      @ENJIMEEREBAY 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I also would like to know if anyone has tried. I have had post benzo anhedonia for near three years now.

    • @thesaint9276
      @thesaint9276 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ENJIMEEREBAY how long were you on for and did you taper or go cold turkey? Also have you gotten better over time?

  • @rachelleshadley7143
    @rachelleshadley7143 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How do I stop the protracted withdrawal

    • @MedicatingNormal
      @MedicatingNormal  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It is usually time that heals folks. Some folks do opt to reinstate or updose as well, depending on their circumstances w their taper and how quickly they went, how sick they are, how far off, etc.

    • @stevekaylor5606
      @stevekaylor5606 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MedicatingNormal A loving dedication: for what one thinks, speaks about and does is mental health, within a Quality Report. Time to phase out tinkerings with DSM labels, drugs and 2nd guesses!

  • @lindabarolet4057
    @lindabarolet4057 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Im going through wtlithdrawal from clonazapam. My doctor had me on this drug for 11 years. I had no idea this was not clinically wise. So, now I have just recently halved my medication dose from 1 mg to .50. I'm not sleeping much and I now experience chronic back pain. My doctor is aware of my going off drugs but I don't trust him concerning these drugs any longer. I'm not sure what to do or who to turn to. The withdrawal symptoms I have learned are longer and harder compared to alcohol and other addictive drugs. What should I do as I go through this withdrawal. I'm on vitamins under a consultation concerning my situation. I have friends checking in on me and my husband is helpful. I'm intimidated on my doing it alone but I don't trust doctors now. Do you have any suggestions?

    • @MedicatingNormal
      @MedicatingNormal  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Halving a dose of benzodiazepines is almost never advised.
      Please read up at the following resources in order to learn more about safe, slow tapering of benzodiazepines:
      (1) benzo.org.uk/manual
      (2) benzoinfo.com
      (3) withdrawal.theinnercompass.org
      (4) benzobuddies.org
      Good luck!

  • @rachelleshadley7143
    @rachelleshadley7143 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had a doctor diagnosis me with fdn

    • @stevekaylor5606
      @stevekaylor5606 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She mentions Allen Francis. In 2012, he said on T.V. - "Psych drugs cause mass shootings!"

  • @Filthycoffin
    @Filthycoffin ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ketamine made me worse! I did large IV 50mg and I pissed blood couldn’t move went to hell couldn’t breath. It was the heaviest feeling ever. I’d say it was worse than the CT itself.

    • @JacquiQ
      @JacquiQ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I would not touch any of those drugs he talked abt. Ketamine? Really ? G*d. I have pain from tapering Benzo's ...I just have a limit as to how much I can cut each time, it has to be very small, if I keep it small I d not get the pain.

  • @snuppypuppy6693
    @snuppypuppy6693 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    snuppy puppy says hi!

  • @rachelleshadley7143
    @rachelleshadley7143 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can someone tell me how to tell my ohycistrist that I have benzo withdrawels

    • @stevekaylor5606
      @stevekaylor5606 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If he won't listen - give him Due Process!

  • @stephencaudill2422
    @stephencaudill2422 หลายเดือนก่อน

    how about switch from benzo's to medical marijuana

  • @clintparsons3989
    @clintparsons3989 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This Doctor is like a hotter version of Kylo Ren.

    • @GCT1990
      @GCT1990 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      .... Good eye, I can for sure see a little Adam Driver in him

    • @stevekaylor5606
      @stevekaylor5606 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GCT1990 Josef is much better in the Psychology Is Podcasts!

  • @rachelleshadley7143
    @rachelleshadley7143 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can u take anything for this

    • @stevekaylor5606
      @stevekaylor5606 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Taking various things - does suit the Mental Health Industry - Pharmaceutical co-franchise!

  • @jmartin5888
    @jmartin5888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    this is drug induced parkinsonism

  • @mysticmardi
    @mysticmardi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    his willingness to keep the poison going scares me. But it’s a good thing he’s here. Can you see the psunami approaching? How many are currently doing dailies? And when the spigot runs out we are going to have a massive meltdown. When do we get to tell them it causes permanent brain damage and essentially sterilizes them?

    • @stevekaylor5606
      @stevekaylor5606 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are telling them here - about what Psychiatrists are doing to their cash cows!